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    McAuliffe Lead in VA Down to 1%

    I’ve been a little delinquent lately so to get a new thread going, here is a new poll from Emerson College that shows Terry McAuliffe with a single-percentage-point lead in the gubernatorial race in Virginia.

    GOVERNOR – VIRGINIA (Emerson)
    Terry McAuliffe (D) 49%
    Glenn Youngkin (R) 48%

    This poll was done October 1-3 among 620 likely voters.

    Posted by Dave at 10:49 am
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    987 Responses to “McAuliffe Lead in VA Down to 1%”

    1. Skippy says:

      Red Wave!

    2. Bitterlaw says:

      Thank you, Wizard.

    3. jason says:

      Puhhhhleeeze, Skippy, no predictions.

    4. jason says:

      Heh..

      “When respondents were asked if Biden’s endorsement of McAuliffe made them more or less likely to support his candidacy, 22% said more likely, 39% said less likely, and 38% said it had no difference.”

    5. jason says:

      After saying yesterday that Biden was unpopular in Virginia, McAuliffe probably won’t be inviting him for any rallies.

    6. Phil says:

      Virginia will be relatively close. McAuliffe probably pulls it out by a couple of points….but that’s just a function of the overwhelming blueness of Northern Virginia. If Va was anything like it was a decade ago he’d go down. The Democrat isn’t helping himself with his remarks about not wanting parents to have input into school board policy. I know he believes it but stupid to say it out loud.

      As far as the House goes it is early but I’m putting the GOP chances of flipping the House at 85%. I’ve seen enough the last few months to move my call. In fact, the only reason it’s not higher is California election law affecting the four seats narrowly won last time by the GOP in California. Also the uncertainty of redistricting. The Democrats will use the Courts to their advantage or try to.

      My call in the Senate has now moved in the GOP direction to 50-50. Reason is the Baris polling of Walker in Georgia. NH and Georgia flip. We lose Pa of course and it depends on Johnson hanging on in Wisconsin and adding one more. I don’t know where that comes from but maybe Arizona. Unfortunately Nevada is rigged.

    7. jason says:

      If any Republican other than Mr. Orange went around endorsing Democrats, the GOP base would form a lynch mob.

      It pains me to admit it, but I guess I have Trump fatigue.”

      You are also misinformed.

      Trump’s comment might have been asinine, but he didn’t “endorse” Abrams either.

      The context of his comment was that Abrams refused to concede, that was ok, but his refusing to concede was not.

      “Former President Trump on Saturday quipped that 2018 Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams (D) may have done a better job in office than her opponent, Gov. Brian Kemp (R), who has continued to catch the former president’s ire for refusing to overturn 2020 election results.

      During a rally Saturday evening in Perry, Ga., Trump, while once again advancing his unsupported claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 election, compared his resistance to admitting defeat to Abrams’s refusal to concede in the Georgia race, a parallel she has previously dismissed.

      Trump argued that unlike the reaction to his refusal to concede, “When Stacey Abrams says I’m not going to concede, that’s okay.”

      “Of course, having her I think might be better than having your existing governor, if you want to know the truth,” he noted, prompting overwhelming boos from his crowd of mostly maskless supporters.

      “Might very well be better,” he added.”

      It wasn’t an endorsement. Just dumb for suggesting Abrams would be better for anything.

    8. Gordon Allen says:

      In a wave year Wisconsin and PA go GOP. The election laws are a problem,but even with the fraud Trump almost won both; and probably did

      Democrats are much weaker. GOP as of now takes Senate and House. My guess is things in the country will get worse not better.

    9. mnw says:

      6 Phil

      Wisconsin Johnson may not run again. He said before he ran the first time that he would serve only 2 terms, which he has now done. He has not announced that he’ll seek reelection in 2022, & we’re getting late in the day to start FR, etc.

      With Biden’s JA where it is, I don’t see PA’s open seat as being a write off, not in an off year election, with an unpopular President.

      As for NV, I wish we had an on-the-ground poster there. The GOP favorite to win the nomination is former AG Adam Laxalt whom Trump has endorsed. Laxalt lost to a DEM two years ago when he ran for gov. As AG, Laxalt feuded with the popular GOP Governor (Sandoval), who declined to endorse Laxalt when he ran last time. I saw an independent poll released this week showing Laxalt’s JA underwater. My instinct is that the GOP would be better off with a new face, but… not likely to happen. There’s a badly wounded vet named Sam Brown– I think he’d be great. And he doesn’t have a prayer, I suspect. I always liked Danny Tarkanian too, but you don’t hear much about him these days.

    10. jason says:

      I think Johnson is running. I don’t think Rick Scott would be running around saying he will if he didn’t know, because he would be suppressing the chances of any replacement. Also polling for Johnson has been pretty good, that might help in his decision.

      Laxalt will be the nominee. Not stellar but the best the GOP has at the moment. The problem for him is the voting system in NV makes it tough or any R to win.

      Danny Tarkanian is a lightweight and deadender candidate for the GE, I am glad we don’t hear “much about him”.

      I agree Sam Brown is a compelling candidate, and that the NV GOP needs new faces, but may have to wait another cycle.

    11. jason says:

      In a wave year Wisconsin and PA go GOP.”

      I agree Johnson probably wins in WI.

      In PA, I am very skeptical Rs can overcome the margin of fraud. Will need for Fetterman to be the nominee and self destruct (has potential to so, horrible candidate0.

    12. Phil says:

      Democrats will do what they did last time. Hold back counting votes in Philly until the very end when they know how many votes they need. They learned their lesson in 2016.

      Pa is fraud city.

    13. mnw says:

      If one researches Adam Laxalt even briefly, he obviously has OTHER problems besides “the voting system.” The fact that more voters disapprove of him than approve, when he’s not even the incumbent, has zero to do with “the voting system.” It has to do with the public perception of his performance as state AG. In that respect, Laxalt resembles Kris Kobach.

    14. Phil says:

      ….Nevada is even worse. Ballot harvesting is flat out legal making fraud with third party custody of ballots a sure think. No signature matching, ballots mailed to anyone requesting or not…..Clark County is an absolute joke. Makes Philly look like a bastion of integrity. Lol

    15. jason says:

      The voting system in NV is toxic to Rs.

      Anyone who doesn’t see that is an idiot.

      This is true whether Laxalt or any other R is “underwater” or not.

    16. jason says:

      The last poll I saw showed Laxalt only down 4 against an incumbent senator in a D +5 poll, so I doubt there is a stronger candidate.

      https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/575192-democratic-poll-finds-cortez-masto-leading-laxalt-by-4-points-in-nevada

    17. jason says:

      Of course I agree that anyone who “resembles’ Kris Kobach is a horrible candidate.

      I am hoping Laxalt doesn’t really fit that comparison.

    18. jason says:

      How many votes will she take from McAuliffe in a close race?

      https://www.princessblanding.com/

    19. mnw says:

      The NV poll is the only independent poll of the 2022 races in NV released so far.

      It shows Cortez Masto’s fav/unfav as 42/37, & Laxalt’s at 28/31.

    20. jason says:

      Democrats will do what they did last time. Hold back counting votes in Philly until the very end when they know how many votes they need. They learned their lesson in 2016.

      Pa is fraud city.”

      I read here that this only happens in the “bad” parts of Philly, Phil.

      Have you ever tried to eat a rotten egg, Phil, on the theory that some of it still good?

    21. jason says:

      It shows Cortez Masto’s fav/unfav as 42/37, & Laxalt’s at 28/31.”

      Which makes sense since people don’t really pay that much attention to AG performance.

      41% are not rendering an opinion in that poll, so 28/31 is hardly noteworthy.

      More noteworthy is an incumbent with only 42% approval in an office where people do pay more attention.

    22. jason says:

      Laxalt has a strong family name recognition in NV and he is a statewide office holder.

      I would probably agree he is an underdog, but I don’t see anyone stronger.

    23. jason says:

      Manchin nixes “tweaking” the filibuster for the debt limit.

      If he is against that, he won’t be approving it anything else either, which is a relief.

    24. jason says:

      Approving tweaking the filibuster for anything else I should say.

    25. Tgca says:

      11.

      Jadon on his silly fraud conspiracies again. Fraud by Amish ferrying in ballots in the middle of the night hidden under hay on horse buggies does not translate to statewide or national level fraud.

      I look to NC to see if there is widespread fraud. The fact that Dems were spending a lot in NC races proves they were nervous about winning, and thus mitigates fraud was a factor.

      If elections were fraud-free in NC, that proves they were fraud-free all over the US because as NC goes so does the US.

    26. jason says:

      I keep forgetting.

      I hear the ballot harvesters in nursing homes in Clark Co called NC on election night and asked if this was going on in Raleigh.

      When told no, they immediately threw out all the harvested ballots, since NC is the fraud barometer of the US.

      Unfortunately, many Amish don’t have phones, so they didn’t get the message and continued ferrying the ballots.

    27. jason says:

      DeBlasio to run for governor.

      NY would complete its transformation into California II.

    28. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      BOOM! The jus-released Quinnipiac Poll has Biden at 40/53 approval/ disapproval and underwater with Independents at 32/60!

      https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3824

    29. Tina says:

      Where are the jebots? All hands on deck.

      ABC News Politics
      @ABCPolitics
      · 1h
      Pres. Biden’s approval rating isn’t bouncing back.

      Read more from @FiveThirtyEight: https://abcn.ws/3ozdAxj

    30. Tina says:

      Wot?

      ABC News
      @ABC
      · 4h
      JUST IN: More Americans have died from COVID-19 this year than from the virus in all of 2020, according to newly updated data from Johns Hopkins University. https://abcn.ws/3AgJQY4

    31. Wobbles says:

      BOOM! The jus-released Quinnipiac Poll has Biden at 40/53 approval/ disapproval and underwater with Independents at 32/60!”

      Zzzzzz…..

      Did you see what Michael Avenatti said about Trump?

    32. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Real Clear Polling average of polls of Biden’s job approval:

      Approve 44.6%
      Disapprove 48.7%

    33. Phil says:

      32/60 with indies? Lol

      From the hack Quinnipiac bunch? The pollster that had Biden winning Florida by 6 on election eve and up in Ohio?

      40/53 was the best overall top line number these Democratic hacks could muster?

      Welp, time to tweak the sample with their next poll. Make it something like D+16. Yeah, that ought to do it.

      Hey, did ya’ll know Biden got 81 million votes?

    34. mnw says:

      moderation purgatory again

      Quinnipiac also had GOP +3 on generic earlier this week.

      Maybe Qpac is switching sides?

    35. Wes says:

      McAuliffe says Biden is a liability to this campaign:

      https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1445800961637814272?s=20

      Now let’s think about that for a second, TMac. A doddering old man elected specifically because of hatred directed toward another man who has managed to make a mess of literally everything in nine months. What are the odds he might not be a boon to people in his party?

      Mind blown.

    36. Paul says:

      If McCaulliffe can’t win Virginia, then the country is screwed. Trump 2.0 and the destruction of all life on earth awaits us all.

    37. Paul says:

      Farewell cruel world. Hello Hell.

    38. jason says:

      I hope Paul’s sacrifice isn’t in vain so the next R in his state can win by one vote.

    39. jason says:

      Paul, don’t forget to donate to Transparent Dem Troll before you go, he will endeavor to produce better trolls in the future.

      If it happens, we will certainly credit you.

    40. Wes says:

      I always liked Danny Tarkanian too, but you don’t hear much about him these days.

      Losing an election every two years tends to help with obscurity, Mnw.

    41. Tina says:

      Of course.

      Breaking911
      @Breaking911
      · 51m
      JUST IN: Senate GOP leader McConnell may offer short-term debt ceiling extension following pressure from Biden – CNBC

    42. jason says:

      You have to admit McAuliffe isn’t really willing to take one for the cause.

      He says Biden is unpopular and the reconciliation bill too big.

      What a lack of commitment.

    43. jason says:

      I doubt it is pressure from Biden.

      But it might be from Murkowski.

    44. jason says:

      CNN: Kabul airport suicide bomber was released from Bagram Air Base by the Taliban days before the attack that killed 13 U.S. service members”

      Of course, you can get out of jail and the next day already have enough explosives and suicide vest to kill hundreds….

    45. Wes says:

      Republicans are aiming for 11-3 in NC redistricting:

      https://mobile.twitter.com/will_doran/status/1445810138279911433

    46. jason says:

      Maybe it was an MSM trial balloon to see if Manchin would bite…

      Guess not.

      Sen_JoeManchin on reconciliation: “Let me be very clear … my number’s been $1.5 (trillion).” Goes on to outline what needs to be included.

    47. jason says:

      Is that feasible?

      I would rather have 10-4 for sure than 11-3 maybe that could end up 9-5.

    48. jason says:

      McConnells position is reasonable.

      It voids the Dems excuses on the timing to pass it themselves through reconciliation.

      Now if they don’t do there is no excuse, it is all on them.

    49. Wes says:

      You have to remember, Jason, Tina loathes every Republican other than Donald Trump; ergo, Mitch McConnell can do nothing right.

    50. jason says:

      Missed my chance, Youngkin odds are now 3-1 on Predictit, they didn’t like the Quin poll.

    51. jason says:

      You have to remember, Jason, Tina loathes every Republican other than Donald Trump; ergo, Mitch McConnell can do nothing right”

      Of course McConnell has been a Republican for 80 years while Trump has been a R for around 10….

    52. mnw says:

      40 Wes

      Yes, I agree. Laxalt having lost a statewide race just 2 yrs ago isn’t a big plus, either.

      If the GOP is going for broke with NC redistricting, it’s counter to the emerging trend in several other red states where the GOP controls the process– incumbent protection seems to be their first priority, according to a persuasive analysis at Politico recently.

      A poster here recently suggested that in MO, the GOP should draw the AA district in KC out of existence, in order to have a chance to add 1 GOP seat. That would mean splitting the AA vote into 2 or 3 parts, in order to create white majority districts! I can think of nothing the federal courts would strike down faster than that.

      Last time around, when the GOP tried aggressive redistricting wherever possible, state & federal courts struck down a lot of those maps & mandated new ones. A case can be made that without those redistricting reversals, the GOP might have a majority in the House now.

    53. Wes says:

      Laxalt lost three years ago when the NVGOP lost literally everything on the ballot, Mnw. He still came within five of Sisolak. All things considered, while I think Republicans should seek a better candidate if one emerges, I don’t consider Laxalt’s loss in a horrific year for his party in that state a major disqualifier

    54. mnw says:

      The tone of the comments at RRH has changed, imo. They act… subdued of late. Might be my imagination, but I doubt it.

    55. Paul says:

      Not quite dead. Just feeling gloomy about the future of the liberal agenda. The era of big government is over.

    56. Tina says:

      Sean Davis
      @seanmdav
      ·
      32m
      Pretty sure it’s 52 people in the Senate, a number in math circles that’s often called a “majority.”
      Quote Tweet

      Seung Min Kim
      @seungminkim
      · 1h
      Sanders says “two people do not have the right to sabotage what 48 want” (as well as the president of the United States)

    57. Bitterlaw says:

      mow – The PA Supreme Court screwed the GOP with redistricting. That said, “Philadelphia” districts previously did meander into the suburbs. When I ran in 2002, the 2d district extended from Center City south to the airport, north to Montgomery County, and west into Lower Merion (the town next to where I have lived since November 2002.) I actually moved right after the election. If a miracle had occurred and I had been elected, I could have served because Representatives are not required to live in the district they represent.

      There was a joke that the First District extended to Wildwood, New Jersey because Congressman Bob Brady spent so much time at his beach house.

    58. Tina says:

      New ad against Mcawful.

      Hopefully, Karl rove is not doing the ads.

      https://twitter.com/approject/status/1445760163655286800

    59. Phil says:

      That’s a really good ad, Tina.

    60. mnw says:

      Tina

      That IS a good ad. It plays into the ongoing high profile controversy in Loudoun County, too.

      Bitter

      Any time a GOP redistricting results in less AA seats, that’s risky business indeed.

    61. Tgca says:

      30. Tina

      Just because more died in 2021 than in 2020 from Covid does not mean it’s on Biden.

      A lot of this could be from the superspreader Jan 6th insurrection crowds in DC who then took it back to their states and people lingered with Covid but no symptoms for 5 or 6 months until the meteoric rise in Covid outbreak this summer.

      So it looks like the 2021 Covid spikes are from events during Trump’s term.

    62. Tgca says:

      52

      Agreed! …and Reagan was a Dem for 30 years.

    63. Tgca says:

      How did this happen?

      Ex Dem mayor in AZ gets indicted for voter fraud filling out multiple ballots and forging signatures.

      I don’t believe this! She’s been set up! There ain’t no voter fraud! …and certainly not by gubbermint peeps in politics. No way Jose!

      If there was fraud, we know about it because it would show up in NC and as NC goes so does the USA.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/arizona-democrat-busted-for-voter-fraud/

    64. SoHope says:

      I like the direction they are going with the NC map. NC can keep it to 3 Dem seats (1 in Charlotte and 2 in Raleigh-Durham area). The Winston-Salem/Greensboro seat can be split without much shenanigans. The rural black NC-1 is short on population and can easily take on rural republican areas that surround it flipping
      it . I’m guessing a 90% the GOP take the NC Supreme Court in 2022 before this would be heard and the maps would hold.

    65. Tina says:

      Tgca, look at the vaccine.

      Pfizer is now claiming an efficacy rate in the 40s, after six months.

      It is junk.

    66. Tgca says:

      Hospital system says it will deny transplants to the unvaccinated in ‘almost all situations’

      A Colorado-based health system says it is denying organ transplants to patients not vaccinated against the coronavirus in “almost all situations,” citing studies that show these patients are much more likely to die if they get covid-19.

      What is the probability of getting Covid and dying compared to dying from transplants?

      Let’s see, 99+% chance of getting and surviving Covid and survival rates for transplant vary but in the 1st year is around low 90s% and then goes down over time.

      It’s not apples to apples but if you had to choose getting Covid or needing a heart or kidney transplant which would you choose?

      This is a rhetorical question.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hospital-system-says-it-will-deny-transplants-to-the-unvaccinated-in-almost-all-situations/ar-AAPb9RA

    67. Tgca says:

      So looks like some are returning to watch NFL as ratings up 17% over last year and 3% two years ago.

      Either that or Bitter has the NFL running on all TVs in his home.

      https://www.breitbart.com/news/ratings-surge-nfl-is-up-17-averaging-17-3-million-viewers/

    68. Tina says:

      Collusion among the war mongers

      Phil Mattingly
      @Phil_Mattingly
      · 7h
      Bipartisan group of 6 former SecDefs send letter to Hill urging debt ceiling action, warning of “catastrophic consequences for the Defense Department, our military families, and our position of leadership in the world.”
      Signed by Panetta, Mattis, Cohen, Perry, Carter & Hagel

    69. Tina says:

      Pocahontas says Mitchie caved.

      Chad Pergram
      @ChadPergram
      · 1h
      From the pool. Dem MA Sen Warren on debt ceiling: McConnell caved. And now we’re going to spend our time doing, child care, health care, and fighting climate change

    70. Tgca says:

      Dr. Fow-chee will NOT like this!

      Sweden will pause the use of Moderna’s Covid SpikeVax vaccine for people born after 1991.

      Data pointed to an increase of myocarditis and pericarditis among Vaccinated teenagers and young adults. “The connection is clear when it comes to Moderna’s vaccine Spikevax, especially after the second dose.”

      https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2021-10-06/sweden-pauses-use-of-moderna-covid-vaccine-cites-rare-side-effects

    71. Phil says:

      Chuck Hagel, huh.

      Of course he signed on. Too bad Jeff Flake wasn’t a former SOD. He could have gotten in on it as well.

    72. Tina says:

      In shifty Schiff’s new book, he writes that he would not have had Mulehead testify.

      He had his Drat colleagues dumb down their questions,

    73. Wes says:

      Of course Gateway Pundit will claim McConnell caved. They probably didn’t even read the proposal. You can do better, Tina.

    74. Tina says:

      Munchkin will buckle

      Chad Pergram
      @ChadPergram
      · 37m
      Manchin on Sanders: Respectfully, Sen Sanders and I share very different policy and political beliefs. As he and I have discussed, Senator Sanders believes America should be moving towards an entitlement society while I believe we should have a compassionate and rewarding society

    75. Cash Cow TM says:

      Well, I finally have to say that the public school system is fully broken.
      ############################################
      It was a combo 1-2-3-4 hit from:

      A. COVID closedowns and now mask mandates
      and NO schoolboard can please a big chunk on parents, teachers and students and the taxpaying public on both sides of the mask mandate/no mask mandate policy

      B. Pushing of the very wrongheaded and addlebrained Critical Race Theory that has parents on the warpath in many counties across the nation

      C. finally getting overwhelmed and not being able to offer all the specialized programs required by various state and federal mandates…and

      D. the long push to absolve students (and parents) of any modicum of responsibility in determining the degree of actual success of the student.

      ALSO:
      –the decades-long push to just pass all students whether they learned anything or not, attended classes or not (some students actually get passed even though they are absent 80 or 90 days of the 17-180 days of instruction), and many school districts have rules that a student can only be failed once in the first 3 grades or only one time in first 6 grades

      –and putting WAY TOO MUCH emphasis on student self esteem and how damaging AND CRUSHING it would be if they got a D or and F)

      –hold the teacher 100% accountable for any and all failures of ANY students in ANY class

      –continual dummying down of academics

      –watering down the grading system to ensure more As Bs and Cs by expanding the range of what is an A, B, C etc., and a passing grade is 60% and above, and giving a minimum grade of a 50% instead of a Zero for required work not turned in,

      –now recruiting most teachers from the bottom 1/3 of graduating classes (while in the 1960s most teacher were recruited from the top 1/3 academically

      –hiring of many teachers who are more interested in indoctrinating rather than in educating students

      –spending over 1/3 of the budget on “special needs” students for 10% of the students.
      ##############################################

      It is a sad state of affairs.
      *******************************************
      In the next door county to me (fast growing and closest WV county to DC and bordering Loudoun Co, VA), they have announced that due to teacher shortages and other things, they are sending the kids home EVERY FRIDAY AT NOON FOR THE REST OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. The teachers will work Friday afternoon on individual student IEPs, lesson plans, deep cleaning of their rooms, etc. etc. since many teachers have been losing their planning period to cover classes of other teachers who are absent and for whom they could not find substitute teachers. (doing an IEP for an individual student could take as much as 3 to 6 hours a week of a teacher’s time–including meetings with the parents and the student “advocate”)

      In my county (2nd biggest pop. in WV and a growth county), there is going to be an emergency meeting tomorrow evening concerning what to do about mask mandate/no mask mandate. I am sure fur will fly.

      #############################
      Walt said there is NO WAY he would be a teacher in today’s world.

      If he was a teacher today, he said he would be fired for doing the right things and for being “insubordinate” and expecting excellence of his students and not give passing grades to students who did not earn them.

    76. Cash Cow TM says:

      OK.

      No input from DW in VA governor race…

      But I will call it for Youngkin.

    77. jason says:

      Sanders is horrible at math.

      “Sanders, a leading progressive, separately told reporters there are “48 senators who support $3.5 trillion; we have two people who don’t,” referring to Manchin and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.).

      “It is wrong, it is really not playing fair,” Sanders said. “Two people do not have a right to sabotage what 48 want.”

      So maybe he agrees that 48 should not impose what 52 don’t want?

    78. jason says:

      But I do think it scary that senators like Bob Casey, Mark Warner, Angus King, etc. who might be flaming liberals but don’t have a reputation as moonbats, why are they supporting Bernie’s agenda?

    79. jason says:

      Of course Gateway Pundit will claim McConnell caved. They probably didn’t even read the proposal. You can do better, Tina”

      I think McConnell is being very smart.

      He is completely taking away the time constraint argument by the Dems, that they couldn’t possibly finish the debt ceiling increase by reconciliation by Oct 18.

      NOW they have enough time, so McConnell can take the same position he has been taking WITHOUT any political fallout.

      THere are no excuses on why the Dems can’t go it alone if they take McConnell’s offer.

      “Caving” my ass.

    80. jason says:

      I heard on the radio moron Mark Levin attacking McConnell.

      McConnell actually now has the Dems boxed in.

      If they don’t take the deal, THEY are responsible for “destroying the world”.

      If they take the deal, they have no excuse for not pursuing it in reconciliation as McConnell wants.

      Win-win.

    81. Phil says:

      Come on Jason. Just because Casey, Warner, and King “don’t have the reputation as moonbats” doesn’t mean they aren’t. I mean, look at their voting records. Are their voting records really any different than Sanders? The answer is no. The media likes to label lefties as “moderates” to help them win elections in purple states. They are anything but.

      Media plays this game all the time.

    82. jason says:

      I said it was scary.

    83. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – The last Republican Tina thought was acceptable was John C. Fremont. Or maybe that was Walt.

    84. jason says:

      90% of “conservatives” bleating about McConnell “caving” probably don’t even know what he offered.

    85. Phil says:

      I’ll let McConnell do his thing on Senate process. That’s totally his area of expertise. Yeah, I’m trusting him on this and it requires a certain leap of faith since he is a long term member of the swamp club. However, he can read polls so I am trusting him not to do anything that will blow it a year from now.

    86. Bitterlaw says:

      I saw that Tgclown was trashing Reagan again to try and build up Trump. Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Reagan spent decades advocating conservative ideas. “But Bitter. Reagan started out as a New Deal Democrat.” Yeah. So did a lot of people right after the Depression started.

      Trump was a good President. Reagan was a great President. Both can be true.

    87. Cash Cow TM says:

      COVID RELATED STORIES UP NOW:

      Last report was DRUDGE and AOL news each had 7.

      Now, DRUDGE is now UP to 14.
      AOL news is now DOWN to just 4.

      The MSM-LSD moguls just continuer to disagree about which crisis to hawk to best help Biden.

    88. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – Sometimes it takes a denizen of the swamp to fight the swamp creatures. I trust McConnell.

    89. Wes says:

      Mark Levin is an idiot. Talk radio is full of bomb throwers who research nothing yet speak with authority on everything. They would attack McConnell for breathing if they could think of something negative to say about it. McConnell actually made an offer that puts the Dems in a bind. They can’t blame the impasse on him now, but they’re fighting among themselves so much they won’t be able to accept his proposal without infuriating part of their own caucus.

      Too bad Tina and talk radio don’t actually do research but immediately attack anything McConnell does.

    90. Wes says:

      I know we’re already several days in, Tg, but I’m planning to watch at least one hor? eiga (Japanese horror movie) a week till Halloween. I’m sticking with the classics for this October. Which one of the following do you recommend I start with?

      Ugetsu (1953)

      Jigoku (1960)

      Onibaba (1964)

      Kwaidan (1965)

    91. Phil says:

      McConnell is usually pretty good on tactical strategy. I’ll trust him on this.

      I didn’t like him shooting off his mouth about Trump after the second bogus impeachment. Totally unnecessary. I have no idea what he thought his rant was supposed to accomplish. I just know the Democrats loved it.

    92. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #74- Tina
      If true, then who was in charge(the “man behind the curtain”) of the bogus RussiaGate investigation?

      As I have said for years, RussiaGate was a soft coup against the 45th President of the USA.

    93. jason says:

      Making friends and influencing people…

      “These bills are not about left versus right or moderate versus progressive or anything that pits Americans against one another… To oppose these investments is to be complicit in America’s decline.”

    94. jason says:

      “Does Sen. Manchin really believe that seniors are not entitled to digest their food, and that they’re not entitled to hear and see properly?” Sanders said.

      If we don’t pass 3.5 trillion boondoggle seniors will not be able to digest food and hear and see properly.

      We are fast becoming a banana republic, because nobody has the ball to ridicule something like this.

    95. jason says:

      I saw that Tgclown was trashing Reagan again to try and build up Trump. Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Reagan spent decades advocating conservative ideas. ”

      Well you have to give him a break, poor bastard really has an uphill climb.

      If you don’t trash Reagan, Trump is always going to look like a midget when he comes to conservatism.

    96. jason says:

      when “it comes to conservatism’.

      where is my coffee.

    97. Phil says:

      ‘’We are fast becoming a banana republic”

      Yep. We may be right on the edge.

      Now we have the Attorney General of the United States threatening to sic the FBI on anyone who “harasses” or ties to “intimidate” local school board members. No definition of those terms given.

      You are a domestic terrorist according to the National School Board Association if you show up at a local board meeting and speak out against CRT being shoved down your child’s throat….and apparently Biden’s FBI is happy to go along.

      Outrageous….and of course, normal.

    98. jason says:

      I didn’t like him shooting off his mouth about Trump after the second bogus impeachment. Totally unnecessary.”

      I agree. But at least he voted no.

      He is a big believer in the “institution of the senate”, so he probably viewed Jan 6 as an attack on it.

      Now Trump is attacking him on the debt ceiling. Also unnecessary since Trump never opposed raising the ceiling when he was President.

    99. Country Dick Montana says:

      Bitterlaw spoke out at a BOE meeting. Just saying…

    100. Phil says:

      Yes, at least McConnell voted no.

      I’ll give him credit for that unlike the Cassidys and Burrs and Sasses in the caucus.

      I guess that ought to count for something alright.

    101. Bitterlaw says:

      2 meetings, CDM. I must be on the watch list by now.

    102. jason says:

      Bitter, you might reconsider having lunch with me, they are probably monitoring you and if you are caught eating in a deplorable area it might confirm their suspicions you are a domestic terrorist.

    103. jason says:

      Of course, no amount of money will help Tgca digest his food.

    104. Tina says:

      Sheeple, it’s a conspiracy. Should entangle mulehead, Mccrape, and Hillary.

      I don’t think Durham is close to being finished.

    105. Phil says:

      We can always hope, Tina.

    106. Tina says:

      Economy weaker

      More unemployment

      More inflation

      More covid deaths

      And now, we are more divided under his Fraudulency,

      https://trendingpolitics.com/epic-fail-a-whopping-64-of-americans-say-country-is-more-divided-under-biden-than-trump/?utm_source=economics

    107. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe Jason will some day reveal why he thinks I dislike or don’t respect deplorables.

    108. Gordon Allen says:

      I think Trumps attacking him on the debt ceiling more because its a major bargaining chip w regard to the 3.5 Trillion Socialism bill.
      We’ll see if that’s right,and if McConnell gets something for it.
      Thats the big enchilada now. If McConnell can scotch it,or have it radically altered kudos to McConnell

      If not,brickbats
      l

    109. Gordon Allen says:

      As announced just now I don’t see the gain to our side. We punted,and will be in the same situation in December.
      480 Billion for 2 months!!
      The Democrats now know the debt ceiling is no longer a lever,as McConnell will always roll over in a pinch.
      So basically we’re back to Manchin and Sinema have to save the Republic as the last weapon in our arsenal is gone.
      Tell me how this helps us.

    110. jason says:

      IF Republicans now hold firm that it has to be through reconciliation I don’t see how this is not a win for McConnell.

      The burden is now entirely on the Dems, they control the process and they have time to do it. McConnell even offered to expedite it.

      If Schumer now lets it go until December in the hopes McConnell caves again he will own the shutdown.

      The MSM will spin it differently of course.

    111. jason says:

      he Democrats now know the debt ceiling is no longer a lever,as McConnell will always roll over in a pinch.”

      BS.

      It’s exactly the opposite.

      The Dems would try to blame the R for “ending the world as we know it”. The MSM would help.

      Now THAt is off the table.

      I think McConnell has outsmarted Schumer once again.

    112. jason says:

      So basically we’re back to Manchin and Sinema have to save the Republic as the last weapon in our arsenal is gone.”

      Zzzzz… there was no weapon in the arsenal and there was no “leverage”.

      The debt issue had nothing to do with the infrastructure and there were no serious talks about “trading the debt limit for infrastructure” because it would be political suicide for Democrats to do that, their base would not accept it.

      “Conservatives” attacking this are ignoring the facts.

    113. jason says:

      We punted,and will be in the same situation in December.”

      Yes, but now the Dems own the debacle if there is a shutdown.

      IF McConnell caves in December, you will be right.

      But if Rs insist on reconciliation, and the Dems don’t do it, no amount of MSM spin will help.

    114. Bitterlaw says:

      If only we had Trump in office to protect us from out of control spending. Oh. Wait.

    115. Tina says:

      Don’t worry, they will do the Potomac 2 step in December.

      (Debt ceiling and gubment funding).

      The R leadership,sucks.

    116. Tina says:

      December 3 is the date that the gubment could shut down.

    117. Tina says:

      Whoops. 12/3 is the date that funding could lapse.

      Gubment could shut down on 12/4.

    118. Tina says:

      “We won’t leave hostages in Afghansistan behind.”

      Political Polls
      @Politics_Polls
      · 1h
      Would you say that Joe Biden – is honest, or not?
      Yes 44%
      No 50%
      .
      Would you say that Joe Biden – has good leadership skills, or not?
      Yes 41%
      No 56%

      .@QuinnipiacPoll, 1,326 Adults, 10/1-4
      https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3824

    119. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      October 7, 2021 at 10:51 am

      Maybe Jason will some day reveal why he thinks I dislike or don’t respect deplorables.”

      I love softball questions hanging right over the plate.

      Well let’s see.

      Maybe because you consistently minimize and disparage their importance in winning elections in favor of the oh so much sophisticated suburban elites.

      Maybe because you consistently demean and attack them as “Sheetz customers” and inferior to the more brilliant Radnor Wah Wah voters.

      Maybe because you accuse them of being like “Alabama voters” when I suggested you might want to have a more inclusive platform if you ran for office.

      I could go on, but your disdain for deplorables is more than well documented here.

      Next question?

    120. jason says:

      Our host of quasi-fascists here at HHR will have a collective orgasm.

      “ABC7 reports that Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti signed a city ordinance requiring all people within the city of Los Angeles “to show proof of full COVID-19 vaccination before entering indoor restaurants, bars, gyms, shopping centers, entertainment venues, and personal care establishments.”

    121. Tina says:

      Even Goober says Rs are folding,

      Chad Pergram
      @ChadPergram
      · 1h
      Graham on debt ceiling: I don’t understand why we’re folding..This is a complete capitulation. And the argument made yesterday was, well, this may be more pressure than two Democratic senators can stand regarding changing the filibuster rules. That to me is not a very good reason

    122. Tina says:

      Chad Pergram
      @ChadPergram
      ·
      58m
      B) Manchin also said yesterday he opposed altering the filibuster. The Dems never had 51 votes to alter the filibuster for the debt ceiling. This means the argument that McConnell cut a deal to salvage the filibuster doesn’t hold water.

    123. Tina says:

      And how many Rs voted to confirm him?

      NewsBusters
      @newsbusters
      ·
      3h
      The media kept telling us AG Merrick Garland was a moderate.

      Instead, he’s threatening parents who are protesting the racist Critical Race Theory in schools.

    124. jason says:

      This means the argument that McConnell cut a deal to salvage the filibuster doesn’t hold water.”

      BS. He didn’t that is why he did it.

      So Pergram makes a lying argument and makes a lying conclusion. What a POS.

      He did to box in the Democrats and take away their main argument about why they couldn’t do reconciliation, which was time.

    125. Tina says:

      “For households earning the US median annual income of about $70,000, the current inflation rate has forced them to spend another $175 a month on food, fuel and housing, according to Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics.”

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/biden-effect-average-family-spending-175-per-month-basic-essentials-today/

    126. jason says:

      and the argument made yesterday was, well, this may be more pressure than two Democratic senators can stand regarding changing the filibuster rules. That to me is not a very good reason”

      Except McConnell did not say that was the reason.

    127. jason says:

      I posted what McConnell actually said last night so Tina, Pergram and Goober can stop lying about it.

      https://twitter.com/LeaderMcConnell/status/1445814140979740679/photo/1

    128. Tina says:

      Lol

      Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), an advisor to McConnell, said that Senate Republicans would try to work out an agreement within their conference to skip the cloture vote altogether, so that no Republican votes would be cast to help Democrats.

      “Is anybody excited about this deal? Sometimes you have to do things that you’re not excited about to prevent something even worse,” he said, referring to the possibility of a national default.

    129. jason says:

      “Could delay a vote”

      Zzzzzz….

      The deal will pass.

      You read it here first.

    130. jason says:

      Cornyn is right.

      Nobody is excited about raising the debt limit.

      But it has to be done compared to the alternative.

    131. Tina says:

      I wonder why the jebots are not complaining about the cost of food, housing, and energy. $175 a month more is significant.

    132. jason says:

      Of course Trump had no problem raising the debt limit several times when he was President, so let’s go easy on the hypocrisy.

    133. jason says:

      Megyn getting her balls back so to speak?

      “Political pundit Megyn Kelly pinned the “f***ers” who “lied” to people about the origins of the coronavirus.

      In addition to China, she criticized the Biden administration and EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak for the millions of deaths due to the pandemic. Daszak, a zoologist, worked with the Wuhan Institute of Virology and reportedly allocated U.S. government grants to facilities conducting gain-of-function research.

      “Kids have died. Forgive me, but these f***ers have lied to us for long enough, and we need to know the truth,” Kelly said Wednesday. “We need to know. Millions of people are dead.”

    134. Phil says:

      Tina, because $175 a month isn’t all that much to our friend Robbie. After all, he didn’t have any problem scraping up a grand to send Joe Biden last year plus another 500 to the Democratic Party.

    135. Tina says:

      Phil true.

      That’s a lot of $ over a year. Almost $2,000.

      We are paying $4.45 a gallon for gas.

    136. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzzz. I have no problem with Sheetz customers. I am not a fan of the stores. I think Wawa’s food is better. If jason thinks Wawa, which has its HQ in Delaware County, is a snobby place, he has never been to one (though he pretended he did go until it was pointed that there were none near him).

      Jason’s biggest lie that I demean deplorable is that I have said that they must be part of the GOP strategy to win elections. Jason is the one who wants an either deplorable OR suburban strategy. Both are necessary.

    137. NYCmike says:

      “I wonder why the jebots are not complaining about the cost of food, housing, and energy. $175 a month more is significant.”

      -Their parents are the ones shelling out the extra Biden Buck$.

    138. Bitterlaw says:

      Tina is very intelligent. Tina gets distracted by tweets by people who will never give credit to any Republican for a good idea. Both can be true.

    139. NYCmike says:

      I see no reason to fault McConnell at this time.

      He is using the power he has, in a subtle way. We don’t need boldness right now. February 2017 was the time for that missed opportunity.

    140. Meldrim says:

      That initial NC congressional redistricting map is just that–an initial map. I find it hard to believe that the GOP will end up adopting a map in which they try to make the formerly black-majority (and currently “black-influence” NC-01 held by former Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield into a GOP district with a far lower black percentage given all of the lawsuits that it would bring.

      Yes, many of the rural districts in NE NC with fairly large black populations are politically marginal, but Bertie, Hertford, Northampton, Halifax, Edgecombe, Warren and Vance counties are both heavily black and heavily Democrat. Those counties can be appended to slightly GOP-leaning Granville and overwhelmingly Democrat Durham and Orange counties to create an overwhelmingly Democrat CD that, because Orange is overwhelmingly white, would leave the black percentage at around 38%-40% (which is where the courts wanted it so that it neither “packed blacks into a single district and thus limited their ability to influence elections” nor “split blacks into several districts and thus failed to permit them to elect the candidate of their choice.” Some rural parts of Orange would have to be left out so as to make the population the required 745,671, and I don’t know exactly how those areas voted, but I’m 99% certain that the district that I described would have given Trump between 27.2% and 27.3% in 2020 and between 26.1% and 26.2% in 2016 and would have give Romney around 28.7% in 2012.

      Drawing an urban Charlotte NC-12 also would be around 38%-40% black, and would keep its black congresswoman safe. The third Democrat CD can be centered in Raleigh and its most Democrat suburbs in Wake County, and would be maybe 30% black. That is better than drawing two Dem districts in Wake/Orange/Durham and inviting a sure lawsuit by adding white rural counties to the black-influence NC-01.

      Splitting Fayetteville that way is completely unnecessary and would make it easier for the NC Supreme Court to strike down the map as a political gerrymander (which it did to the 2014 map). They should keep Cumberland County (which includes Fayetteville) whole and attach it to all of Sampson, Duplin, Onslow and Carteret counties and part of Pender County, which would be a GOP district with a fairly regular shape. That CD would have given Trump almost 54% in 2020 and around 53.3% in 2016, and would have given Romney around 51.5% in 2012.

      Guilford (Greensboro and High Point) does need to be split up, but it should be two ways, not three ways, with High Point being included in a district that goes west into Forsyth County (Winston-Salem) and counties to the north and west (but not Democrat Watauga) and the other 80% of Guilford being in a district with heavily GOP Randolph and Davidson counties. Both CDs would have given Trump between 53.3% and 53.6% in 2020 and around 53% in 2016 and would have given Romney between 53.1% and 53.3% in 2012, and would be very reasonably shaped and respectful of county and city boundaries.

      So, yes, an 11R-3D congressional district map for NC is quite feasible, but I don’t think that that initial proposal is the way to go about it, particularly if you want to make sure that it’s upheld by the courts.

    141. mnw says:

      147 Meldrin

      Going back to your earlier post about MO redistricting:

      If the MO GOP tried to carve up the AA KC seat, in order to divide the AA vote & thereby possibly pick up an additional white majority GOP seat, the federal courts would pounce on that in a heartbeat– like a leopard dropping out of a tree on a goat. It would never survive federal judicial review. While it might not violate the VRA itself, such a plan would be subject to all the VRA analysis– discriminatory intent; compactness, etc.

      In real life, btw, the MO GOP seems to be prioritizing incumbent protection, from what I’ve read, not drawing an aggressive map to add a seat. (I vote in MO.)

    142. jason says:

      NYC is just trying to besmirch my reputation by agreeing with me.

      Just cheap tactic has been tried before without success, I always overcome these difficult moments.

    143. jason says:

      just = this

    144. jason says:

      like a leopard dropping out of a tree on a goat”

      Hmmm.. I like it…might have to borrow that one…

    145. Phil says:

      Incumbent protection is the strategy here in Texas as well. Texas gains a seat under the latest census and Republicans will draw the map to get that with little problem. Unlike NC and Pa the State Courts are 100% Republican here. No moonbats to interfere. As long as the legislature doesn’t make a blatant and obvious attempt to divide the minority vote the federal courts will stay out of it. Look for a gain of one seat out of Texas – possibly two if Republicans can carve into either one of two suburban districts occupied presently by a Democratic – one outside Dallas and one outside Houston. Not sure that’s doable. Overall, however, Republicans will net at least one seat for sure.

    146. jason says:

      Jason is the one who wants an either deplorable OR suburban strategy. Both are necessary”

      Translation: screw the deplorables.

      Sorry, but “both” is not possible. Either the GOP decides it will be the working class party and assembles a coalition of working class, rural and exurban voters plus keeping the minorities Trump has brought into the party or it can chase the suburban elites that have been brainwashed by the educational system into thinking they want the nanny state.

      The strategy and the message is not compatible. It does not mean giving up entirely on the suburban vote, not all suburbs are mostly liberal, although the trend is that way. The GOP needs to have policies that appeals to suburban voters because there are a lot of them.

      But you either focus on the working class or you focus on the suburbs.

      Focusing on the suburbs gives you the results Dole and Romney and McCain got. There just aren’t enough suburban voters supporting a non-socialist ideology to win national elections anymore.

      If the GOP wants to “get back” suburban voters as their main strategy, their goose is cooked, they can’t compete with Dems. The strength of the GOP is now with blue collar voters both whites and minorities, and rural and exurban (fast growing demographic) voters.

      Not that I think this will be the case. I think the Bitters of the GOP will determine the strategy.

    147. Meldrim says:

      mnw, as you mentioned, the MO-05 district based out of KC is not a VRA district, and basically what I propose to be excised from Cleaver’s CD would be the non-KC portions of the district in Jackson County and Ray, Lafayette and Saline counties, all of which are white areas. Appending KC (which would remain whole, except for its tentacles that reach into Platte and Clay counties to the north, which were not in the MO-05 anyhow) to Cass County and counties to the south would not reduce the CD’s black population in a material way but certainly would increase the GOP vote percentage in the district. It would not be vulnerable to claims of racial gerrymandering, and because the MO Supreme Court did not make up a prohibition against political gerrymandering (which SCOTUS already held does not violate the U.S. Constitution) under the state constitution like NC did, there’s no risk of the map being struck down. Drawing a 53%-55% of so Trump CD out of western Jackson County and the counties to the south would give the GOP a high probability of taking the seat, it wouldn’t affect the legislature’s ability to keep the other GOP seats safe (the only competitive district being MO-02 in the other side of the state).

    148. mnw says:

      Well, Meldrin… you & I disagree profoundly about MO redistricting. I think you’re wrong about the federal courts just smiling away the dilution of the AA district.

      In any event, it’s never going to happen except in your dreams. The MO GOP wants to shore up Ann Wagner, & nothing else is going to change.

    149. Bitterlaw says:

      Translation of Jason’s translation – Bitter is right but I can’t admit that Bitter is right.

      Jason conveniently ignores the fact that I supported Trump twice and I live in the suburbs. How is that possible? How could I vote the same way as the deplorables? The answer is that all of Trump’s voters had enough in common to vote the same way.

    150. Meldrim says:

      Phil, in TX, the map proposed by the GOP that seems poised to be approved indeed is an incumbency-protection plan, turning 8 or 9 very competitive districts held by the GOP into safe GOP districts. It will result in a gain of at least one and probably two seats for the GOP, and the Dems either will stay with the same number of seats or gain one. TX gained two CDs through apportionment and, basically, the legislators drew two new safe Democrat CDs, one in Austin and one in Houston; the latter is numbered the 7th, which was the formerly GOP district that Democrat Lizzie Fletcher won in 2018, but in reality it’s a new CD that takes in relatively little of the current TX-07 and scoops up other Democrat votes from vulnerable districts in the area, particularly from the TX-22). The GOP turned most of what was the TX-07 into the new TX-38 that, thanks to some helpful additions from western parts of Harris County, voted 56% for Trump and will elect black conservative Republican Wesley Hunt (who lost by only 3% in TX-07 last year) to Congress. The other suburban CD that the Dems picked up in 2018 and held in 2020–the east Dallas County TX-32–was turned into a Democrat sinkhole in order to prop up all of those districts in the DFW area that went from 65% Romney to 52% (or less) Trump. So the GOP will pick up only one suburban seat, in Houston, and only because a new hyper-Democrat seat was created.

      The map leaves one battleground CD, and the GOP is favored to win it in 2022: The 2020 Trump percentage in the 80%+ Hispanic TX-15 (one of the “fajita strip” districts that runs from the Mexican border to counties well to its north) went up from 48.5% to 51% in the redrawing, and Democrat incumbent Vicente González already announced that he’ll run in the more Democratic TX-28 next door (where the incumbent is retiring). Mónica De la Cruz-Hernández came within 3% of defeating González last year, and will be running again in what is now an open, GOP-leaning seat; if she wins, the TX delegation in the House will go from 23R-13D to 25R-13D.

      Personally, I would have drawn several more 70%-Hispanic, 55%-Trump-voting districts going from the border to counties further north instead of keeping those 35%-Hispanic, 75%-Trump voting CDs in West Texas, but the TX legislature decided to play it safe, and betting that if the Hispanic vote keeps trending Republican the GOP will pick up a couple of additional Hispanic CDs before the end of the decade.

    151. Meldrim says:

      #155, mnw, you wrote “I think you’re wrong about the federal courts just smiling away the dilution of the AA district.” But there won’t be any dilution of the black vote if eastern Jackson County and Ray, Lafayette and Saline counties are replaced with Cass County and counties to the south. I am *not* advocating that KC itself be split up. Nice strawman, though.

    152. lisab says:

      Now we have the Attorney General of the United States threatening to sic the FBI on anyone who “harasses” or ties to “intimidate” local school board members. No definition of those terms given.
      ————————

      well you saw the video of bitter at the school board meeting

      noe he doesn’t dare go back, or he’ll be labled a domestic terrorist!

    153. lisab says:

      part of the nfl ratings were up because of

      tampa vs patriots

      even i watched the end of that game

      ratings were huge for that game

    154. lisab says:

      could go on, but your disdain for deplorables is more than well documented here.

      Next question?
      ————

      i think just the fact that he calls them deplorables is also a hint

    155. jason says:

      Jason conveniently ignores the fact that I supported Trump twice and I live in the suburbs.”

      Zzzzz… simplistic drivel and straw argument. I didn’t say every suburban voter was a Democrat.

      What I said is the suburbs of large metropolitan areas are increasingly liberal due to the left wing educational system, the MSM and the woke corporate America.

      GFY.

    156. Gordon Allen says:

      I DESPISE deplorables…as I define them.
      Leftist,brain dead university club/ country club types pretending to be someone,journalists/msm,the education mafia ,greenies/Marxists, ,gover bureacrats,Free trade( subservient to China) types,invaders from South of the border,….
      Whats wrong with that?
      Who disagrees they are deplorable?
      They exist; just define them properly

    157. jason says:

      Sorry, at HHR you are obligated to conform to existing definitions.

      Look in the bylaws.

    158. Bitterlaw says:

      Lisabitch forgers that I posted before that I do not like the term deplorables because it is a pejorative term created by Hillary. However, Jason continues to use it and I was responding to him. If I did not use Hillary/Jason’s term, he would somehow translate that to mean I don’t like working class/small business owners/minorities/rural/etc.

    159. jason says:

      Rand Paul bedevils fellow Republicans again with Israel aid holdup

      His objections to $1 billion for the Iron Dome missile defense system stem not from his anti-interventionist streak but from his long-standing fiscal conservatism.”

      Zzzzzz…. why not say it like it is, that he is an anti-semitic ass just like his father.

    160. jason says:

      Bitter likes deplorables.

      As long as they don’t come close to Radnor and as long as they don’t tarnish the woke elitist suburban country club voters he thinks are the future of the R party.

    161. jason says:

      I don’t like working class/small business owners/minorities/rural/etc.”

      True.

    162. jason says:

      But Bitter should be happy.

      Most Rs in the leadership and making decisions for the party think the way he does. There isn’t going to be any effort to have a bigger tent party.

      He should stop whining.

    163. jason says:

      Besides, I am just giving my opinion and advice.

      I have no stake in the party or its future.

    164. Bitterlaw says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      October 7, 2021 at 4:57 pm
      Lisabitch forgers that I posted before that I do not like the term deplorables because it is a pejorative term created by Hillary. However, Jason continues to use it and I was responding to him. If I did not use Hillary/Jason’s term, he would somehow translate that to mean I don’t like working class/small business owners/minorities/rural/etc.

      Jason creatively edits that to post:

      jason says:
      October 7, 2021 at 5:02 pm
      I don’t like working class/small business owners/minorities/rural/etc.”

      True

    165. Phil says:

      157

      I’m pretty ok with that Tx redrawing. Not a fan of Fletcher of course but the trade off was gaining a new GOP seat in Harris County. Also not a fan of Allred in the 32nd but the other suburban areas around Dallas needed shoring up so making him safer probably also a decent trade off. If the GOP gains a net two seats you have to say the legislature has done some good work.

      I like Republican chances in the 15th with the circumstances you cited. You and I would agree that it is a safety map….but that’s ok if it nets two seats while still solidifying Republican seats several that will go from Trump +2 or 3 to Trump +15-20. Pretty good outcome over all. I have some criticisms here and there but, overall, I’d be pleased with this outcome. It’s a smart map.

      Also, the state legislative district map for the state House has been approved by the state Senate. It will net 7-9 red districts in the state House ensuring the state legislature gets even redder.

    166. jason says:

      Bitter sometimes reminds me of Amoral Scumbag, not that I am comparing them.

      In the sense that they get what they want but are still whining.

    167. jason says:

      Bitter doesn’t have to worry, the party without Trump is not going to make any effort to hold on to the working class vote, both white and minority, that Trump brought into the party.

    168. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason is the one who wants an either deplorable OR suburban strategy. Both are necessary.”

      Jason completely ignore this post to create the lie that

      jason says:
      October 7, 2021 at 5:04 pm
      But Bitter should be happy.

      Most Rs in the leadership and making decisions for the party think the way he does. There isn’t going to be any effort to have a bigger tent party.

      He should stop whining.

      WHEN I SAID THERE NEEDS TO BE A BIG TENT STRATEGY WHY WOULD JASON LIE AND SAY I SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT Rs in LEADERSHIP DON’T WANT A BIG TENT STRATEGY?

      Is there any language that he comprehends?

    169. Bitterlaw says:

      jason says:
      October 7, 2021 at 5:01 pm
      Bitter likes deplorables.

      As long as they don’t come close to Radnor and as long as they don’t tarnish the woke elitist suburban country club voters he thinks are the future of the R party.

      More absolute lies. I have said repeatedly in hundreds of posts before today and on this thread that the GOP must expand and that includes the people Hillary and Jason call deplorables. I have never and would never join a country club. The few people I know who do belong to country clubs are Democrats.

    170. Bitterlaw says:

      Bitter doesn’t have to worry, the party without Trump is not going to make any effort to hold on to the working class vote, both white and minority, that Trump brought into the party.

      Do your lies ever stop? My posts are there for everybody to read and compare them to your lies and distortions.

    171. Wes says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      October 7, 2021 at 10:51 am
      Maybe Jason will some day reveal why he thinks I dislike or don’t respect deplorables.

      It could be worse. Chicon claims I think of Trump supporters as “knuckle draggers” although he coined there term and applies even as I never have done.

    172. Bitterlaw says:

      2+2=4

      Jason to post “Bitter should be happy that Kommie Kory agrees with him that 2+2=9” in 3…2…1…

    173. Phil says:

      How many of you are as relieved as I am that Merrick Garland never made it to the Supreme Court?

    174. Tina says:

      Phil, he is causing just enough damage as the ag.

      He and Monaco.

    175. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – I am relieved that Garland never made it to SCOTUS. When he was appointed, I thought they should have held confirmation Hearings and then voted him down. It would have been more entertaining to see him get a vote and lose.

    176. mnw says:

      For those who didn’t wade through Meldrin’s analysis of MO redistricting, here is what he wants the GOP to do:

      1) At present MO has 2 AA Dems in Congress and 6 white Republicans.

      2. If the GOP takes Meldrin’s advice (and if it worked as planned*), his redistricting plan would result in one AA DEM and 9 white Republicans.

      3) The AA district in KC is not majority AA– just plurality AA. Meldrin asserts that his suggested plan would only “mildly” dilute the AA vote in the KC district. But the whole idea is that the GOP would pick up an extra seat! The ONLY way the GOP can gain a seat is by getting rid of one of the two existing AA seats. The GOP already HAS the other 6, and MO did not get an additional seat from the recent census. If that’s not Meldrin’s intended result, then WHY WOULD THE MO GOP BOTHER TO DO IT?

      And Meldrin has convinced himself that the federal courts would have no problem with a new map that replaces one of the 2 AA DEMs with another white Republican.

      *in real life, most of these clever schemes usually fail.

    177. mnw says:

      183 should read “would result in one AA DEM and 7 white Republicans”

    178. Cash Cow TM says:

      COVID related stories today:

      DRUDGE 12
      AOL news 5

    179. Cash Cow TM says:

      Mitch McConnell’s ‘caving’ on agreeing to a temporary increase in the debt limit until December:

      His move makes the Rs look good (willing to compromise) and I think that may have an positive impact on the VA governor’s race which will benefit Youngkin.

      **********************************
      LET’S GO BRAN-DON!

    180. Bitterlaw says:

      mow – I agree. The argument over redistricting would likely go something like this:

      The Republican’s attorney would present hours of testimony, statistics and maps.

      The Democrat’s attorney would say, “Your Honor, they are getting rid of 50% of the Black districts. Don’t let them.”

      Any doubt on the outcome?

    181. mnw says:

      BL

      No! And I think Meldrin is dissembling, too. He has constructed an enormous proposed machine, and it would make NO SENSE for the GOP to even attempt such a thing… unless it was to gain a seat. And there’s only one way the GOP COULD gain a seat– by taking out Rep. Cleaver (AA Dem; Inc.) in KC.

      THEY ARE NOT GOING HUNTING FOR AA CONGRESSMEN! The MO GOP and AA community leaders have had a mutually beneficial understanding about this for 20 years.

    182. Paul says:

      Are there any Republicans that have an ounce of moral integrity? Nope. That’s what I thought. Go to hell, all of you.

    183. Cash Cow TM says:

      Paul,

      I think there is a town called Hell in MN.

      You sound depressed.

      **********************************
      GHAGOWM*

      (*Go Have A Glass Of Warm Milk)

      [And be sure to take your meds….]

    184. SoHope says:

      The KC MO district is only 21% AA…carve away

    185. Bitterlaw says:

      Paul – Sorry but Robbie and Corey are responsible for judging our integrity. There is no need for a third scold.

    186. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10071065/Nicola-Sturgeon-slammed-chilling-comments-older-pro-UK-voters.htmlu

      Saying you will outlive the opposition may be correct but you should not say it out loud.

    187. Meldrim says:

      mnw, you have no idea about the current composition of MO-05. You keep saying that it’s a “black district,” and that, while it isn’t black-majority, that it is “black-plurality.” The term “plurality” means that the category in question constitutes less than 50% but more than any other category. For example, if a district is 45% non-Hispanic black, 43% non-Hispanic white, 8% Hispanic, 3% Asian and 1% Native American, blacks would constitute a plurality of the district’s population.

      But you apparently believe that the current MO-05 has *twice* as many blacks as it does whites. This is the racial and ethnic composition of the current MO-05:

      64.4% White
      22.0% Black
      8.5% Hispanic
      2.5% Two or more races
      1.7% Asian
      1.0% other

      What you are claiming is that if the MO-05 sheds its (overwhelmingly white) eastern Jackson County precincts as well as (overwhlmingly white) Ray, Latayette and Saline counties, and replaces them with (overwhelmingly white) Cass County and counties to its south, thus reducing the black populationfrom 22% to 20% that it would lead to the district being struck down by the courts as a violation of the Voting Rights Act? That is an absurd proposition. It’s not only that the MO-05 isn’t a black-majority CD under the VRA, it’s not even a black-influence district under the VRA. A district tht is 64.4% white and only 22% black does not get *any* protection from the VRA.

      So your complaints about my proposal are hysterical, and not based on reality. While the MO-05 has a black congressman, he is one who has been elected by a 64%-white district for the past couple of decades, and a reduction in the black percentage from 22% to 20% would be completely uneventful. I guess tgar you don’t want to replace 55%-Republican whites with 70%-Republican wites, just to keep a second Democrat in the MO U.S. House delegation. Good to know where you stand.

    188. mnw says:

      SoHope

      How you figure they’ve elected a black congressman for so long, then?

      Let me help you. The AA population in that district is a plurality.

      “Carve away” & all hell will come down on the GOP. Read what BL posted in 187.

    189. mnw says:

      Meldrin

      Be honest. The end goal of your proposed redistricting is to subtract one AA representative, & add one GOP rep, making the new delegation 1 AA Dem & 7 white Republicans, right?

      Why else would the MO GOP want to do what you’re proposing?

      What is it you think redrawing the map your way would achieve for the MO GOP?

    190. mnw says:

      Ducey predicts Sinema will cave.

    191. Bitterlaw says:

      Gain one seat vs making every GOP candidate in the US answer questions about MO redistributing.

    192. SoHope says:

      I suggest be carve up Nashville, Louisville, Winston-Salem/Greensboro, NC-1, the Gerrymanded Jacksonville-Talahasee seat, and Kansas City MO, and Kansas City KS…that is 7 seats right there

    193. Meldrim says:

      mnw, you are entitled to your own olinion, but not to your own facts. The MO-05 is 64.4% white and only 22% black That is not even close to a black plurality. Stop digging.

      Oh, and are you seriously claiming that the only way that Cleaver could win is if the district had more black voters than white voters? Cleaver is a former mayor of KC, a city that is around 30% black, so it’s not like white Democrats won’t vote for him; in fact, the MO-05 elected a black Democrat six times in the 1980s and early ’90s (Alan Wheat), and then a white Democrat five times (Karen McCarthy) before Cleaver, so it’s a pretty color-blind electorate.

      And since the MO-05 is around 40% Republican, blacks comprise over a third of the Democrat primary electorate, making it harder for a white Democrat to primary out Cleaver. If the black percentage goes from 22% to 20% but the GOP percentage goes from 40% to 54% or 55%, then blacks will comprise even a higher percentage of the Democrat primary electorate.

    194. jason says:

      Bitter doth protest too much.

      Your bias against the deplorable is obvious.

      GFY.

    195. SoHope says:

      Congressional District 5 (117th Congress), Missouri
      Source: 2019 American Community Survey 1-Year Estimates
      Race Estimate
      Total population 777,659
      One race 750,684
      White 534,414
      Black 165,064
      American Indian 2,745
      Asian. 13,432
      Some other race 31,854
      Two or more races 26,975

    196. SoHope says:

      Plurality AA my ass

    197. jason says:

      Meldrin seems to have come to the debate armed with facts.

      mnw has come to the debate armed with speculation and MSM talking points about “all hell coming down on the GOP”.

    198. jason says:

      The Republican’s attorney would present hours of testimony, statistics and maps.

      The Democrat’s attorney would say, “Your Honor, they are getting rid of 50% of the Black districts. Don’t let them.”

      Any doubt on the outcome?”

      As usual, Bitter sides with the MSM talking points.

      Always scared, always worried about what others are going to say.

    199. jason says:

      Mitch McConnell’s ‘caving’ on agreeing to a temporary increase in the debt limit until December:

      His move makes the Rs look good (willing to compromise) and I think that may have an positive impact on the VA governor’s race which will benefit Youngkin.”

      I agree Cow. Unfortunately a lot of deadenders don’t.

    200. Meldrim says:

      Bitter, why the heck would GOP cndidates outside the KC area be asked questions about the redrawing of the MO-05? If you were running in PA-04 or whatever and you were asked that question in s debate, you would laugh, and so would the audience. A district in western MO that goes from 22% black to 20% black would not make the news anywhere outside of KC. And the district would look far less gerrymandered than the current district is. Total non-issue.

      Oh, and I forgot to answer one of mnw’s questions. My aim isn’t to defeat a black congressman, it is to defeat a Democrat congressman. Do you think that it is ungentlemanly to draw out a Democrat just bevause he’s black? So had Russ Carnahan been black then he should have been protected in his 20% black district in 2012, but it was OK to draw him out because he’s white? How Woke of you.

    201. Bitterlaw says:

      201 Only obvious to you since you made it up. Did you go to your favorite Wawa last week for free coffee day? Wait. Your visit to Wawa was also made up.

      Keep ignoring my real posts and the fact I supported Trump at the polls in 2016 and 2020. GFY.

      And GFY for making me crave a Wawa sausage, egg and cheese on a biscuit sandwich when they only sell them in the morning.

    202. Meldrim says:

      #206, jason, I agree, it was a smart move by Cocaine Mitch. And I wouldn’t call it “caving” by any means; Mitch didn’t want the GOP cooperating in a debt-ceiling increase that would permit the Democrats to spend $3.5 trillion, and by agreeing not to filibuster a short-term debt-ceiling waiver that *only permits the current level of spending*, the GOP will not have done anything that could facilitate the $3.5 trillion bill.

    203. Bitterlaw says:

      205 Objection. Facts not in evidence. If I was scared of others opinions, I would not speak in public or post here.

      As usual, Jason proves he does not understand how courts work. I don’t expect him to understand legal arguments but mine certainly does.

      Meldrim – Why did every GOP Senate candidate have to answer questions about “ legitimate rape” after Akin’s moronic statement?

    204. Bitterlaw says:

      I do agree with Jason, Meldrim, and Cash Cow that McConnell made strong strategic move.

    205. jason says:

      Meldrim – Why did every GOP Senate candidate have to answer questions about “ legitimate rape” after Akin’s moronic statement?”

      Wins the non-sequitur award of the month.

      A moronic statement is a moronic statement.

      Redistricting a seat has nothing to do with a moronic statement.

      In this case, the fact this district has a black congressman does not make it ‘untouchable’ especially since it isn’t even a ‘black district”.

      Bitter is always afraid of his own shadow. Let the MSM whine.

    206. jason says:

      nd GFY for making me crave a Wawa sausage, egg and cheese”

      Is it organic free range chicken sausage, organic free range chicken eggs and cheese from happy and humanely milked cows?

    207. Bitterlaw says:

      I ran against a black Congressman, campaigned in black neighborhoods, and spoke to black clubs and black church groups in 2002. Jason can suck it.

      The idea that I would eat anything healthy or upscale is absurd. My diet today consisted of 5 sodas and a bowl of frosted Cheerios.

    208. jason says:

      The Dems play to win.

      Here is how the country club Republicans who are lectured too much on how racist they are play:

      The Democrat’s attorney would say, “Your Honor, they are getting rid of 50% of the Black districts. Don’t let them.”

      Any doubt on the outcome?”

      OMG, we ARE racists, so sorry.

    209. Bitterlaw says:

      I am going to bed. Jason to post I am not going to bed but will stay up all night in 3…2…1…

    210. mnw says:

      Well, at least Meldrin finally admitted his goal is “to defeat a DEM congressman,” & since there are only 2 & they’re both AA– he wants to gerrymander Cleaver out of office.

      SoHope

      The AA population of both the KC & STL districts have declined dramatically in the last 10 years. That’s why the percentage of AA voters have declined in both. Blacks have moved to nearby suburbs. To get those districts appx equal in population to the other 6, the state legislature is going to have to add voters to those districts. That will be accomplished by adding those near suburbs back to those districts.

      Again, it helps to know, as Meldrin doesn’t, that for 20 years now there’s been a tacit understanding that the DEMs get two AA seats, thereby maximizing the GOP chances everywhere else.

      Everyone knows this, except Meldrin, & neither the MO GOP nor the MO AA leaders want to meddle with that longstanding, symbiotic relationship.

      That’s why everything Meldrin suggests will be enacted on Fantasy Island perhaps, but nowhere else.

    211. jason says:

      Bitter, you can have your suburban elitist R party for all I care.

      I was just giving my opinion but I won’t be working, contributing or voting for any R.

      It is your party and like I said, you don’t have to worry, nobody in the RNC or leadership is going to force any deplorables on you.

      Be happy.

    212. jason says:

      gain, it helps to know, as Meldrin doesn’t, that for 20 years now there’s been a tacit understanding that the DEMs get two AA seats,”

      Zzzzzzz…….

      Sounds like it is about time to break up the cozy little corrupt arrangement.

    213. jason says:

      either the MO GOP nor the MO AA leaders want to meddle with that longstanding, symbiotic relationship.”

      Of course they don’t.

      Screw the country.

    214. jason says:

      Bitter got tired of fighting to keep the deplorables at bay and went to bed.

    215. mnw says:

      So Meldrin may “have the facts,” but everything he’s calling for is nonsense as a practical matter.

      I can remember the old days when Dixie Dems from the Bootheel (Gov. Hearnes; Gov Dalton) dominated MO politics. Thanks to the tacit arrangement to allow two AA districts, the GOP gradually exterminated the Democratic Party in Mo.

      And “that cozy little arrangement” has greatly benefitted the GOP & isn’t about to change.

      I can’t see how enabling the MO GOP to control EVERYTHING is “screwing the country.”

      Also BL & I are attorneys & have a care not to go where fools rush in, i.e., using partisan redistricting to eliminate one of the two AA seats.

    216. Bitterlaw says:

      Have to respond. Why would I fear deplorables being forced on me when I specifically and repeatedly have posted hundreds of times that the GOP NEEDS TO EXPAND THE PARTY AND THAT INCLUDES THE VOTERS/DEPLORABLES WHO SUPPORTED TRUMP? YOUR DESIRE TO BE THE SPOKESMAN FOR DEPLORABLES IS IRONIC GIVEN YOUR LACK OF SUPPORT FOR TRUMP ON ELECTION DAY IN 2016

      I used to consider you a friend. Why are you continuously going to lie about what I have repeatedly and clearly stated? Your need to make me into a racist caricature is odd. Your claim I don’t like minorities is bs. The reference to country club Republicans is misplaced since I have never belonged to one and the only people I know who do belong to one are Democrats. I expect it from lisab and Tgclown. I expected better from you.

    217. lisab says:

      you can just feel the love bitter has for deporables

    218. Meldrim says:

      mnw, if you keep digging, you’ll only bury your head deeper into your behind.

      “The AA population of both the KC & STL districts have declined dramatically in the last 10 years. That’s why the percentage of AA voters have declined in both. Blacks have moved to nearby suburbs. To get those districts appx equal in population to the other 6, the state legislature is going to have to add voters to those districts. That will be accomplished by adding those near suburbs back to those districts.”

      What you say is true for St. Louis, but not for KC. The MO-05 has always had a white mjority, even when Wheat represented it from 1983-1995. And while the black-majority MO-01 went out into black suburbs in (Democrat-controlled) 2002 redistricting, and took in South St. Louis (formerly in Carnahan’s MO-03) and even more black or “diverse” suburbs in GOP-controllled 2012 redistricting, that’s not what happened to the MO-05. In 2002, the Democrats added GOP areas to the MO-05 in order to try to improve Dem chances in the two adjoining CDs (Dem Ike Skelton held one of them and the Dems had lost the other one to Sam Graves when Pat Danner retired in 2000). And in 2012, the GOP decided to make the surrounding seats safely GOP by adding to the MO-05 not suburban areas, but rural (and Dem-voting, back then) Ray, Lafayette and Saline counties). In neither case did redistricters seek to increase black percentages, or even to limit the decrease in the black percentage. Your “tacit agreement” to have two black districts is an absolute fantasy.

    219. Meldrim says:

      #222, mnw, that’s the fifth or sixth time tgat you’ve told the bald-faced lie that I am advocating the elimination of an African-American district. IT IS A 22%-BLACK DISTRICT. It is NOT an African-American district, and it has never been one. It has a smaller black population than it did when a white woman represented it from 1995-2005, and even if the GOP tried to increase its black population it wouldn’t be able to raise it very much. For the umpteenth time, the change that I propose is switching out white voters for more Republican white voters. Race has nothing to do with anything, and the black percentage won’t change very much. You started off from the premise that the MO-05 was a black-plurality CD, and the points that you made would have been valid had that been the case, but once you became apprised that the district is only 22% bkack you should have said “my bad; I withdraw those particular objections” instead of doubling down based on your gross misunderstanding of the facts of the matter. If you wish to keep digging, suit yourself.

    220. lisab says:

      could a aa republican run there?

    221. Wes says:

      Meldrim is posting numbers and figures to back up his position. Unless Mnw can counter with some hard numbers of his own, I have to say Meldrim has the stronger argument.

    222. Tgca says:

      207

      Clearly, like GWB, Meldrim hates black people.

    223. Tgca says:

      Why y’all were arguing silly petty things tonight, I was doing important things like watching Lara Croft Tom Raider and Dracula Untold.

      It’s important to have a life outside HHR.

    224. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @Rasmussen_Poll
      1st Term Presidential Job Approval % – Oct 7th
      10/7/09 – Barack Obama – 49%
      10/7/17 – Donald Trump – 46%
      10/7/21 – Joe Biden – 43%

    225. Wes says:

      Biden is treading down the path Trump once trod, SDC. If this continues–and honestly I see realistic way of its reversing–then Biden will hit a tipping point where reelection becomes mathematically only improbable but realistically impossible.

    226. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      232. If you meant to say you see a realistic way for Biden to reverse his decline in popularity, I would tend to disagree. Biden is too far gone mentality, and often does not listen to his advisers. There is no powerful chief of staff or other advisor who can take control.

      Agree that after less than a year in office, Biden is at a tipping point politically. It’s like watching the Titanic after it hit the iceberg; waiting for it to slide under. I cannot name a modern president who so successfully sealed his political doom during his first year in office

    227. Bitterlaw says:

      215 Once again, jason’s ignorance of the law and trial practice is obvious. He confuses my analysis of the arguments each side would make with the false claim I am advocating for the Democrats’ position, Analysis and advocacy are not the same thing.

    228. Wes says:

      I mistyped, SDC. I meant to put a “no” before “realistic way” in that post. Thus, you and I actually agree.

    229. SoHope says:

      It’s so silly that anyone on here is against redrawing MO-5 with a party gerrymander…party germanders are very much legal racial gerrymandering is not.

      22% AA dems being partnered with mostly white urban dems give you a dem rep.
      20% AA dems being partnered with suburban and rural whites get you a gop rep.

      Look at the news…dems complain about Gerrymandering regardless. Why is this so difficult?

    230. SoHope says:

      OH-01 The Cincinnati seat has similar demographics, is similarly split, and elects a republican.

      Ethnicity
      69.6% White
      22.0% Black
      3.2% Asian
      2.7% Hispanic
      2.2% Two or more races
      0.4% other
      Cook PVI
      R+4

    231. SoHope says:

      Dems *itch and moan about Ohio’s maps being unfair to dems…gop tells them to pound sand and keeps winning elections.

    232. jason says:

      Your need to make me into a racist caricature is odd. Your claim I don’t like minorities is bs. ”

      I never said you are a racist or don’t like minorities, so why make crap up?

      We have a profound difference of opinion on what we think the R party should do to win elections going forward, and which demographics should be targeted.

      There is no right or wrong here.

      And I am sorry if you are offended about being called a country club Republican. This term is used broadly to define a certain type of suburban voter and doesn’t actually require you to be a member of a country club. You continually disparage where I live and I am not offended.

    233. jason says:

      So in the end we have mnw and Bitter using “we are attorneys so we know what is best for the R party in MO” while Meldrin and SoHope have the facts and the best arguments on their side.

      Both attorneys are lying repeatedly with this “eliminating a black district” when in fact it is not a black district, it is a district that currently has a black representative. This would be like calling South Carolina a “black State” because Tim Scott represents it.

      I will go with the facts and best argument here and give Meldrim and SoHope while mnw and Bitter whine about ‘gerrymandering’.

      The Dems don’t have any of these reservations, they will gerrymander everything to keep winning, while the GOP attorneys stand around and worry about what the MSM and moonbat judges will say.

    234. jason says:

      Give Meldrim and SoHope the win.

    235. jason says:

      Also BL & I are attorneys & have a care not to go where fools rush in, i.e., using partisan redistricting to eliminate one of the two AA seats.”

      LOL

      Yeah, the Dems never engage in “partisan redistricting’.

      I love it here.

    236. Wobbles says:

      Kamala is standing strong with a quarter of Americans like me approving of her performance on immigration.

      ‘Three-quarters of voters disapprove of Vice President Kamala Harris’s handling of the southern border crisis, according to a nationwide poll.

      President Joe Biden made Harris the “border czar” of his administration in March. Now, a majority of voters—75 percent—have rated her handling of the response “poor.” The judgment did not change with political affiliation: Fifty-five percent of Democrats and 94 percent of Republicans agree with that assessment. Slightly more Democrats participated in the poll than Republicans, and slightly more women participated than men. The poll, conducted by the Convention of States Action and the Trafalgar Group, surveyed more than 1,000 likely general election voters.”

    237. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – Where do we have a profound difference of opinion when I have repeatedly agreed with you? Reread 223 where I said the GOP needs to expand and that includes Deplorables and other voters who supported Trump. How can you possibly spin that to mean the opposite?

      As for redistricting, I did not advocate against eliminating a district held by a black Congressman. I pointed out that Democrats will argue in court that it is racially motivated. Why? Because Democrats claim everything is motivated by race. Do you disagree that Democrats claim everything done by Republicans is racist? That used to be agreed upon by almost everybody here.

    238. jaichind says:

      Payrolls Growth in U.S. Misses Big for a Second Straight Month

      194K vs expected 500K.

    239. jason says:

      McConnell gets credit for driving Dems farther apart.

      Manchin says he will not break the filibuster in December and Schumer is on his own.

      https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/10/08/watch-manchins-incredible-reaction-after-schumers-victory-lap-n453484

    240. jason says:

      As for redistricting, I did not advocate against eliminating a district held by a black Congressman. I pointed out that Democrats will argue in court that it is racially motivated. Why? Because Democrats claim everything is motivated by race. Do you disagree that Democrats claim everything done by Republicans is racist? That used to be agreed upon by almost everybody here.”

      Yes, we all know Democrats will argue in court it is racially motivated.

      So what?

      If you admit Dems claim everything Rs do is racist, why side with mnw’s silly arguments/

    241. Meldrim says:

      mnw said that the MO-05 used to be a heavily black district but that its black percentage dropped because KC blacks moved to the suburbs. I explained that what he described was true of St. Louis and the MO-01, but not of KC and the MO-05, which always was an overwhelmingly white district even though it had a black representative from 1983 to 1995 and again starting in 2005.

      Well, I dug up my 1994 edition of Michael Barone’s Almanac of American Politics, which was published in 1993 and included the districts redrawn in 1992. The 1990 Census popularltion fir the MO-05 was 72% white and 24% black. Barone writes that when Democrat Congressman Richard Bolling retired in 1982 the district was won by 31-year-old Democrat state rep Alan Wheat, “[n]ot terribly remarkable, excpt that Wheat is black, and has made his political fortune in an overwhelmingly white district.” I take that to mean that the black population in MO-05 was not markedly different in 1982 (when Wheat was first elected) as in 1992 (when it was 24% black and he won for the final time prior to his doomed 1994 U.S. Senate run in what was a horrible year for Democrats.

      So, again, the MO-05 has always been a white district with a 20%-25% black majority, and there is zero chance that lowering its black percentage from 22% to 20% would be deemed to be “retrogression” pursuant to the VRA.

    242. Meldrim says:

      Oops, 20%-25% black *minority*

    243. jason says:

      Jason – Where do we have a profound difference of opinion when I have repeatedly agreed with you? Reread 223 where I said the GOP needs to expand and that includes Deplorables and other voters who supported Trump. How can you possibly spin that to mean the opposite?”

      We do not agree at all. Unless you agree with this, which I don’t think we do.

      “Jason is the one who wants an either deplorable OR suburban strategy. Both are necessary”

      Translation: screw the deplorables.

      Sorry, but “both” is not possible. Either the GOP decides it will be the working class party and assembles a coalition of working class, rural and exurban voters plus keeping the minorities Trump has brought into the party or it can chase the suburban elites that have been brainwashed by the educational system into thinking they want the nanny state.

      The strategy and the message is not compatible. It does not mean giving up entirely on the suburban vote, not all suburbs are mostly liberal, although the trend is that way. The GOP needs to have policies that appeals to suburban voters because there are a lot of them.

      But you either focus on the working class or you focus on the suburbs.

      Focusing on the suburbs gives you the results Dole and Romney and McCain got. There just aren’t enough suburban voters supporting a non-socialist ideology to win national elections anymore.

      If the GOP wants to “get back” suburban voters as their main strategy, their goose is cooked, they can’t compete with Dems. The strength of the GOP is now with blue collar voters both whites and minorities, and rural and exurban (fast growing demographic) voters.”

    244. jason says:

      Meldrim, you are trying to interfere with mnw’s cozy corrupt “agreement” with the Democrats?

      Shame on you.

    245. Tina says:

      I just read that the MSM were predicting strong job numbers.

    246. Tina says:

      Charles V Payne
      @cvpayne
      ·
      36m
      Breaking News
      Jobs Report Another Disaster
      194,000 Jobs consensus 500,000

      There have been calls to fundamentally change America – its happening! We are a nation that used to love and appreciate work now we refuses to work or can’t because of forced mandates and restrictions.

    247. jason says:

      The partisan moonbat PA supreme court gerrymandered the crap out the PA districts with the intent of stealing 4 seats, although it only worked in 3.

      I guess they weren’t worried about what mnw calls “aggressive gerrymnandering”.

    248. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason is at war with himself:

      The strategy and the message is not compatible. It does not mean giving up entirely on the suburban vote, not all suburbs are mostly liberal, although the trend is that way. The GOP needs to have policies that appeals to suburban voters because there are a lot of them.

      But then he posts:

      But you either focus on the working class or you focus on the suburbs.

      If there are a lot of suburban voters then there had to be many suburban voters who supported Trump, too. Like me. Why pit groups against one another when you need both?

      So he is saying don’t give up on the suburbs but give give up on the suburbs.

    249. jason says:

      It’s important to have a life outside HHR.”

      What a concept!

      Who knew?

    250. Bitterlaw says:

      It’s important to have a life outside HHR

      Elitist a-hole.

    251. jason says:

      Bitter is pretending to be dense.

      “But you either focus on the working class or you focus on the suburbs.”

      Yes.

      Do you agree with that?

      The key word here is what should the FOCUS be?

      I never said “give up on the suburbs” I said the GOP strategy moving forward is to be the party of the working class assembling a coalition of working class, rural and exurban voters plus keeping the minorities Trump has brought into the party or it can chase the suburban elites that have been brainwashed by the educational system into thinking they want the nanny state.”

      Do you agree with this?

      If not, we have a profound difference of opinion.

    252. Bitterlaw says:

      “But you either focus on the working class or you focus on the suburbs.”

      Yes.

      Do you agree with that?

      The key word here is what should the FOCUS be?

      No. The key word is “or.” You can focus on both. Target the message that resonates with individual voters. Reagan was so good at this that he created an entire voting group – Reagan Democrats. Many of the Reagan Democrats would be deplorables now.

    253. jason says:

      Since I don’t agree the strategies for the suburbs and the working class coalition I think the GOP should pursue are compatible, I think you have to focus on one or the other.

      Should not be too difficult a concept to understand.

    254. jason says:

      You can focus on both.”

      I don’t agree. The GOP has to choose the strategy, because the messages are very different, not to mention the candidates.

      Since you don’t agree then we have a profound difference of opinion.

      Agreed?

    255. jason says:

      Reagan was so good at this that he created an entire voting group – Reagan Democrats.”

      If you find another Reagan let me know.

    256. Bitterlaw says:

      Great to know you agree it is possible. Just need to find another Reagan-type. I will get back to you.

    257. jason says:

      Yes, if you find another Ronald Reagan in the next couple months let me know.

      Until then we have a profound disagreement on what strategy the R should pursue in the future.

    258. jason says:

      I am flattered my fellow A-hole wants so much to agree with me though.

    259. Tina says:

      The jebots told me he was “enriching” himself.

      Steve Herman
      @W7VOA
      · 12m
      During the @POTUS45 era, @TrumpDC lost more than $70 million, according to @OversightDems. https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Selected%20Documents%20Related%20to%20GSA%20Lease%20for%20Old%20Post%20Office%20Building%20Part%203.pdf…
      Show this thread

    260. Tina says:

      Notice how mute the medical services industry is?

      g ? Retweeted

      Carol Roth
      @caroljsroth
      ·
      1h
      Abysmal jobs report again– only 194,000 jobs added.

      Good thing that govt is pushing employers to fire their unvaxxed workforce- that should help!

    261. jason says:

      Not only fire them, withhold unemployment.

    262. jason says:

      McAuliffe calls CRT racist?

      “When [reporter Anita] Blanton questioned McAuliffe about CRT, he called it a “dog whistle” that’s dividing people but wouldn’t define what he believes it means.

      “Anita, it is not taught here in Virginia,” McAuliffe said.

      “But how do you define it?” Blanton pressed.

      “Doesn’t matter. It’s not taught here in Virginia. So I’m not going to spend my time. I’m not going to even spend my time because the school board and everyone else says it’s not taught. It’s racist. It’s a dog whistle,” McAuliffe said.

    263. jason says:

      Manchin call Schumer’s speech “f–king stupid”.

      Pass the popcorn.

    264. jason says:

      No talk good English. Calls it “f—king stupid”.

    265. jason says:

      Sanders when asked about Manchin’s position, says “I don’t know, I am not a psychiatrist”.

      Pass the popcorn.

    266. Gordon Allen says:

      There are no Reagan Democrats; they’re are no Bush Republicans; they’re Democrats.
      The country is fully polarized. The is no middle ground/ compromise. There is oy victory or defeat. The Democrats know that; sadly RINO Republicans haven’t figured that out yet, incomprehensibly.

    267. Tina says:

      Jason,

      Check out Munchkin yesterday in the Senate.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/mescubamike/status/1446285498960564227

    268. Tgca says:

      273

      Agreed Gordy! It’s more than polarized, it’s indoctrination and bordering on fascism.

      Reagan lived in a different where there were still many people that still could work together and Reagan Dems could agree with him on many but not all things. Today’s it absolute one way or the other with the Dems.

      Reagan would not be able to bring that same unity today because part of the success he had was being able to reason with reasonable people and those reasonable people no longer exist.

      Think back to the 70s and 80s. What Dems back then would be advocating for CRT, reparations, trans in women sports, defunding police, sex changes and abortions for minors, emasculating the military, open borders, fascist discrimination against those not vaccinated…

    269. Gordon Allen says:

      Meant to type that Reagan Democrats are now MAGA Republicans.
      The Country Club Bush Republicans are close to extinct. Bush “Moderates” are now squishy Democrats. I just don’t get ANY feel the Washington GOP, or RNC have a clue that its not 1984 anymore, and that it can’t be re created.
      For better or worse a Reagan would not be able to navigate today’s political world; and after all going on 40 years have passed

    270. jason says:

      I do think we need a Ronald Reagan, and I do think he would go a long way in reducing the polarization.

      Unfortunately, we don’t have one.

    271. mnw says:

      Meldrin

      Is it of any interest to you that the MO GOP has zero interest in what you’re proposing?

      And that both parties LIKE the 2/6 split?

      Or do you prefer not to let reality interfere with your fantasies?

      They aren’t going to make any attempt to redistrict Cleaver out of office. What the MO GOP will do is ADD AA votes to the KC district, because it’s lost so much population. Same with STL, where the GOP’s only interest is shoring up Ann Wagner, and MO-01 is also short of population. The 2 AA districts must have more voters to satisfy the appx equal population requirement for all districts.

      Watch and learn. The proposed map could come out any time.

    272. Tgca says:

      Often the problem with the DC GOP, like Dems, is they live in the past. Their obsession with the Reagan years or the Dems with JFK and don’t see the US is very different now. That does not mean people don’t value the same things since most people on both sides want personal security and prosperity but what has changed is how it is achieved.

      Many today want the Robin Hood approach where you villainize take from one group and give to another. There is no longer shared values in personal work and responsibilities and uniting for common causes. It’s achievement of goals through isolating, conquering, discriminating against, and shaming others.

      It’s setting up for an eventual civil war if the silent majority does not rise up and say enough is enough and we’re not gonna take it anymore.

    273. Tgca says:

      278

      I don’t think Jesus Christ himself could unite folks in this environment.

      Reagan would have little to no effect today because he was a product of his time when certain core values and beliefs were shared even if you differed on political issues.

      You need to be able to reason with people and many on the far left are not folks you can reason with.

      The fact that today many believe you do not need to have a vagina to be female or that we need to indoctrinate children into believing they’re hateful racist villainous from birthright and even while in the womb is not someone you can reason with and persuade to a compromise.

    274. Tgca says:

      I think the GOP and the unvaccinated have to march to a different beat of the drum. Here is my recommendation.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI

    275. jason says:

      Meldrin

      Is it of any interest to you that the MO GOP has zero interest in what you’re proposing?

      And that both parties LIKE the 2/6 split?”

      Of course not, you said yourself they have a cozy little corrupt deal.

      It is one of the reasons the GOP is getting its ass kicked everywhere.

      But at least mnw stopped lying about the “AA district’ BS.

    276. jason says:

      Sorry, but Reagan was a man of immense persuasion skills, so I think he would be VERY effective in today’s polarized environment.

    277. Tgca says:

      284

      I totally disagree!

      I think Reagan was charming and likable and used his acting skills to woo folks but that does not work today where the far left doesn’t want to be wooed, they want people to “pay and suffer” for who they are or what they represent. They want to destroy peoples lives and businesses. There is NO way Reagan would convince these socialistic-communist loving peaceniks today that there’s another way.

    278. mnw says:

      MO-05:

      For 27 of the last 35 years, this KC district has elected a black congressman. For 10 of the last 37 years, it elected a white Democrat. The GOP last won this district in 1947.

      The current AA congressman, Emanuel Cleaver, routinely gets 60% of the total vote.

      But don’t call it “an AA district”! Because that would be a lie!

      MO-05 is a prime GOP pickup opportunity, if only the MO GOP weren’t so stupid, & didn’t enjoy having 6 conservative GOP congressmen (out of 8 total) so much. /s

    279. jason says:

      I totally disagree!”

      Of course you do because it doesn’t fit your Reagan trashing narrative.

      Reagan was not just charming and likeable. He was very CAPABLE and persuasive.

      There has been nobody since that has even come close.

    280. Bitterlaw says:

      Wow. Tgca dismisses Reagan as just an actor. Is it 1980 again?

    281. Tgca says:

      287

      No. I think Reagan was a good president as I’ve said before whereas you think he walked on water and have a fairytale revisionist history of him like Dems do of JFK.

      Please tell me how Reagan would persuade Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer today. What about the MSM?

      How would he get up convince the radical left that trans lifestyle indoctrination and police defunding have no place today and that CRT is not necessary.

      You live in fantasy world. Today is not the 1980s and its very different. I was a product of the 80s and remember all too well how many Dems were still reasonable and could find common ground when they trashed Reagan elsewhere.

      Reagan would most likely be impeached today for Iran Contra.

      Trying to say we can take men from different times that forged their beliefs and personality during another time to today and hypothesize they could still command the same allegiance is silly.

      I suppose you think Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt could command the same allegiance today based on their personalities in their times.

      It’s a silly comparison because the electorate and major players like the MSM and Big Tech play a role that exists today that did not exist in the 80s.

      The Dems have moved further left then they were in the 80s.

    282. jason says:

      No. I think Reagan was a good president”

      No, Reagan was a GREAT president, fixed it for you.

    283. jason says:

      Wow. Tgca dismisses Reagan as just an actor. Is it 1980 again?”

      Tgca tells more lies about Reagan than he does about nutrition.

    284. jason says:

      I am sure Reagan could deal with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

      They are only formidable in Tgca’s mind.

      Reagan would roll right over them.

    285. mnw says:

      VA Gov

      McA +4 over Ynkn ; 49-45.

      Wason (not a typo) Center poll from Christopher Newport Univ. LVs. Released today. I never heard of Wason, but apparently it’s considered R-leaning.

      According to the poll, McA’s lead has slipped 5 points since Aug.

    286. Tgca says:

      288

      That’s not what I said Mr. Woke. I said he used his acting skills as part of his charm to woo others just like Trump used his TV persona to rally many that would otherwise not support the GOP to his side. In many respects, opposite personalities that fit the times just as Clinton charmed many in the 90s with his I feel your pain.

      As Trump was the ONLY Republican that could win in 2016, Reagan developed a personality of persuasion that worked in the 1980s when a great part of the nation was still of The Greatest Generation and we’re optimistic about the the future. Those folks are now mostly gone and we’re left with many thinking we should apologize for WW2 and the perceived atrocities over many decades that even our own military leaders are succumbing to at this point.

      It’s a different world. The GOP ignored the indoctrination of the educational system of the last 25 years and allowed the Dems to get the upper hand with the approximate 100+ million youth born or immigrated into the US that’s now nearly a 3rd of our population.

    287. Tgca says:

      Jadon’s hard on for Reagan persists.

      Please tell me what states would elect Reagan today.

      CA? IL? PA? NJ? MA? NY? VA? OR?

      You are delusional to think Reagan would make all these socialist and communist it’s into Reagan Dems today.

    288. jason says:

      But don’t call it “an AA district”! Because that would be a lie!”

      It IS a lie.

      So stop lying.

      This would not be the first black member to represent a district that is not majority black.

    289. jason says:

      Reagan won 49 states.

      And yeah, I think he could win PA and VA, hands down. Probably NJ too.

      He certainly would do a lot better than Trump.

      GFY.

    290. Tgca says:

      I suppose Jadon and Bitter think we could have avoided the Civil War by having Reagan POTUS in the mid 1800s so he could persuade the South to give up slavery willingly and follow the North’s lead.

      …or perhaps if Reagan was around in the late 1800s, he could have avoided the Revolutionary War with his persuasion of the English monarchy.

      I bet you Reagan could have even persuaded Pontius Pilate to have saved Jesus.

      …and of course, FDR made a fatal blunder by not having Reagan sit down and talk with Hitler to end the war instead of having Reagan sell war bonds and do videos for our troops.

      Reagan could do all these things but somehow he could never get Congress to give him the line item veto.

    291. jason says:

      According to the poll, McA’s lead has slipped 5 points since Aug.”

      Yeah, all the Rs on the ticket improved according to this poll.

      Still, I would like to see some polls with Youngkin actually ahead.

    292. jason says:

      Reagan could do all these things but somehow he could never get Congress to give him the line item veto.”

      LOL

      Reagan was certainly the most successful President in my lifetime by far, and Tgca trashes him because he could not get line item veto passed?

      The digging begins.

    293. Tgca says:

      Reagan would win NJ today? OMG! Have you been to the Sewer State lately?

    294. jason says:

      Yeah, by trying to diminish Reagan with the old hackneyed left wing “actor” BS used against him (unsuccessfully I might add) Tgca makes an even bigger ass of himself.

      And it is funny that idiots like Tgca like to smear Reagan as a “bad actor”.

      It is only “good actor” when they want to disparage his tremendous power of persuasion.

    295. Tgca says:

      300

      So Reagan could persuade folks to give up socialism and communism ideas perpetuating among us today but could not get the line item veto passed in Congress?

      Do you hear what you’re saying?

      Again, tell me how he would change the minds of the Dems leaders today.

      Tell me what Dem senators and CongressCritters would get behind him to give him the clout to force change in this environment? Name names please.

    296. jason says:

      “Have you been to the Sewer State lately?”

      Tgca shows he is more ignorant of electoral history than he is of nutrition, and that is saying something.

      Massachusetts 1976

      Carter 1,429,000
      Ford 1,030,000

      Massachusetts 1984

      Reagan 1,310,000
      Mondale 1,239,000

      Did MA become more “conservative”?

    297. Tgca says:

      302

      I make an ass of myself because you’re deep throating on Reagan as usual.

      You claim by your own words that’s it’s no longer worth voting because the system is rigged but so then how could Reagan change all that today? The people would rise up by Reagan’s inspiring words to defeat the rigged system? Really?

      You speak out if both sides of your mouth dude.

    298. jason says:

      So Reagan could persuade folks to give up socialism and communism ideas perpetuating among us today but could not get the line item veto passed in Congress?”

      Heh, he actually got most of the world to give up on socialism and communism, and much more entrenched.

      You are a moron.

    299. jason says:

      You claim by your own words that’s it’s no longer worth voting because the system is rigged but so then how could Reagan change all that today? The people would rise up by Reagan’s inspiring words to defeat the rigged system? Really?”

      Yes.

      Next question.

    300. Meldrim says:

      #286, mnw, are you really so stupid as to believe that Republican congressmen in MO prefer having a 6R-2D House delegation than a 7R-1D delegation? Obviously they wouldn’t want changes made that made their reelection more difficult, but taking away 1 D and adding 1 R puts them that much closer to a GOP House majority.

      And you’re saying that the GOP legislature will seek to add black voters to the MO-05? From where are they going to get them, Kansas City, Kansas? There aren’t that many blacks in western Missouri, which is why the MO-05 is only 22% black.

      You claim to be a lawyer, yet you believe that the race *of the congressman* is what matters when someone sues under the VRA? Where did you get your degree, Starbucks? The TN-09 is a black-majority district under the VRA despite it being represented by a white Democrat since 2007, and the heavily white districts represented black congressmen Cleaver, Horsford, Veasey, Coleman, Allred, Delgado, Hayes, McBath, Neguse, Underwood, and several others are neither black-majority nor black-influence districts under the VRA. The prohibition against retrogression (making it more difficult for a protected minority to elect the candidate of its choice) does *not* apply to districts that are neither black-majority nor black-influence even if the incumbent is black.

      Maybe Republicans in the MO legislature doesn’t want to pick a fight with its black Democrat colleagues by drawing out a black congressman with seniority, but, if it draws a safe district for Cleaver, it won’t be because of the “tacit understanding that the MO–5 will be a black district” that you got out of your Khyber.

    301. jason says:

      Sorry, “dude”, you are going to run into a buzz saw every time you trash Ronald Reagan, especially with really asinine cheap shots like “he didn’t pass line item veto”, he only brought down the Berlin wall and ended the Cold War and bankrupted the Soviet Union.

    302. jason says:

      #286, mnw, are you really so stupid as to believe that Republican congressmen in MO prefer having a 6R-2D House delegation than a 7R-1D delegation? ”

      Yes, according to mnw they “like it more”.

      Besides, you wouldn’t want to disrupt the little cozy corrupt “agreement” between Rs and Ds, would you?

    303. Tgca says:

      If you think a Republican can win POTUS in MA today, I don’t know what to say.

      The Dems have won that state with 60%+ in every election since 1996. So Reagan could sway 20% of MA voters away from Dems today to vote for him to win MA?

      Okayyyyyyyyyyy….

    304. jason says:

      Good news, I am all for protecting the environment.

      “Eating hunted wild meat instead of livestock reduces greenhouse gas emissions”

    305. mnw says:

      Meldrin

      How likely do you think it is that the MO legislature will draw a map along the lines you suggest?

      Just give us your best estimate of the odds. I say there is zero chance. You?

      I practiced law for 40+ years, the last 28 as a federal prosecutor. As for where I went to law school, I don’t want to post so much personal info here that for all practical purposes, I might as well list my name, DOB & home address. But… it wasn’t Starbucks.,

      The GOP in MO is satisfied having 6 out of 8, and it is risk averse, too. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it,” as they like to say in Jeff City.

    306. jason says:

      If you think a Republican can win POTUS in MA today, I don’t know what to say.”

      If you had said Reagan would win MA in 4 years when he was running in 1980 everyone would have said the same thing.

    307. jason says:

      The GOP in MO is satisfied having 6 out of 8, and it is risk averse, too. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it,” as they like to say in Jeff City.”

      Yep, nothing like a loser mentality.

      “Risk averse” is the understatement.

    308. Tgca says:

      309

      Yes…Margaret Thatcher had nothing to do with the influence in Europe and Reagan did it all by himself. No other country had any influence on containing communism…just Reagan.

      It’s amazing how the Berlin Wall fell 8 months after Reagan left office ALL because of him and him alone and no one else.

      I guess Reagan also was responsible for companies like Apple and Microsoft and Silicon Valley ushering a new age of hi-tech that started an industrial revolution not seen since after WW2 even though they started years before he became president.

      There was nothing Reagan could not do…except get the line item veto passed with his great powers of persuasion.

    309. jason says:

      The big time lawyer and federal prosecutor can only back up his stance with “if it aint broke don’t fix it” (absolutely brilliant).

      Meldrim brings all the facts, history, knowledge and data.

      Really not a fair fight.

    310. Tgca says:

      This is too easy. History and facts tell a more detailed story.

      Reagan was good and influential POTUS, no doubt but not great outside most conservative circles. Again GOP sycophants has its Reagan and the Dems have their JFK.

      Please feel free to post more Reagan gross exaggerations and mistruths so I can have a good laugh when I return later on as some of us have a life outside HHR with important things to do like shopping for tofu…or watching the NFL and singing along with the Black National Anthem sucking down large quantities of Coke like some unnamed posters here.

    311. mnw says:

      How about THIS fact? For 27 of the last 35 yrs*, that district has had an AA DEM congressman.

      If it was such a lead pipe cinch to redistrict Cleaver (& Wheat before him) out of office, why hasn’t the GOP done it BEFORE? Or even drawn a more competitive district?

      I’m still waiting for Meldrin to give us his estimate of the odds his map will be adopted in MO. Waiting…

      “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” is something they’ve been saying in the MO state legislature for many decades. It’s a common place saying. I didn’t invent it.

      *(the other 8 years it was represented by a white female DEM, Rep. Karen McCarthy)

    312. jason says:

      So now Tgca is denying Reagan was the driving force behind the fall of the Soviet Union.

      That is all you need to know.

    313. jason says:

      I’m still waiting for Meldrin to give us his estimate of the odds his map will be adopted in MO. Waiting… ”

      Zzzzzz…

      Meldrim is making the point his map SHOULD be adopted.

      He probably understands the “risk averse” GOP Rs will continue their little cozy corrupt “agreement” with the Dems.

    314. Meldrim says:

      You want my estimate, mnw? Here it is: GFY. You’ve been lying through your teeth throughout this conversation, and show that you know *nothing* about VRA litigation. Who gives a rat’s behind whether the district has had a black congressman for 29 of the past 39 years (check your math)–that is not a consideration under VRA analysis. Did they teach you how to draw flowers in a latte while in “law school”?

    315. jason says:

      How about THIS fact? For 27 of the last 35 yrs*, that district has had an AA DEM congressman.”

      Goalpost moving alert.

      At least we are no longer pretending it is an “AA district”.

      We are now shifting too ‘has had an AA Dem congressman”.

    316. mnw says:

      Never let reality interfere with Meldrin’s Fun With Numbers! /s

    317. Gordon Allen says:

      I don’t think even Reagan,or Mrs Reagan,thought Reagan was as great as Jason does.This is like arguing in the 70’s and 80’s how great FDR was.(He wasn’t btw).
      Different time,and totally different world now than in the 80’s. One size definitely doesn’t fit all.

    318. mnw says:

      Meldrin

      Instead of ad hominem attacks, could you answer my question, pls? Do you see any chance your map will be adopted in MO?

      And yes, I attach a great deal of imporance to the fact that MO-05 has had an AA DEM congressman for almost 30 years!

      Do you have a job, Meldrin? Where did you get your own law degree?

    319. jason says:

      Sorry, Ronald Reagan would be a great President at ANY time.

      Because his strength was his character and his personality and sense of purpose, and that prevails in ANY political environment.

    320. jason says:

      I always find it interesting that people who demonstrate profound ignorance on a certain topic try to mask it by saying “hey btw I am a great lawyer or expert or whatever”, when in reality it compounds the ignorance.

      mnw should know better as a lawyer, right? Instead he relies on abject lies to defend his point.

    321. jason says:

      Never let reality interfere with Meldrin’s Fun With Numbers!”

      Translation: facts don’t matter.

    322. jason says:

      Pass popcorn III.

      “CNN reporting that Sinema is refusing to return calls from the White House”

    323. jason says:

      Pass popcorn IV

      Tulsi Gabbard ?
      @TulsiGabbard

      Let me get this straight: Biden wants the IRS to violate our privacy by collecting info on all financial transactions over $600 so they can stop really rich people from hiding money?”

    324. Bitterlaw says:

      Gorbachev respected Reagan more than Tgca. Gorbachev said Reagan was instrumental in ending the Cold War.

      https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal-te.soviet07jun07-story.html

    325. mnw says:

      Well, if Meldrin’s plan is DOA, isn’t that a fact that SHOULD be considered, before wasting a lot of time analyzing it?

      I’ve never posted ANY claim here to be “a great lawyer or expert.” That’s just BS.

      On another topic, by my informal count it looks like 5 House DEMs have already announced they won’t seek re-election in 2020, & 5 others have announced they are leaving to run for higher office– which is the same thing.

      This spate of retirement announcements is something we’re used to seeing among GOP congressmen in the last 2 cycles, not among the DEMs. It doesn’t bespeak confidence.

    326. Wes says:

      I don’t get it. I honestly don’t understand why Reagan makes Tgca feel inferior enough to have to continually bash the former President and rewrite history.

      It’s astounding really.

    327. Wes says:

      If it was such a lead pipe cinch to redistrict Cleaver (& Wheat before him) out of office, why hasn’t the GOP done it BEFORE? Or even drawn a more competitive district?

      I would guess one factor would be that Republicans haven’t had full control of redistricting in Missouri till recently.

    328. Wes says:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc11.com/amp/mark-robinson-nc-lt-governor-jeff-jackson-gov/11099093/

      Democrats are calling for NCLG Mark Robinson to resign over comments about homosexuality and transgenderism.

      I’ll be honest. I wouldn’t have used the language Robinson employed, but I agree with his sentiments. Even though I’m absolutely in no way a socon, I don’t believe this stuff has any place in a school curriculum.

      Robinson spoke his mind on the issue and probably voiced the sentiments of a majority of Tarheel voters. He could probably have worded things differently, but Democrats are being histrionic in calling for his resignation.

      In any event, I don’t expect Robinson to suffer much, if at all, for this.

    329. mnw says:

      Wes

      From what I’ve read, your state is the only one so far where it appears the GOP is drawing an aggressive map. I could be wrong. I’d be curious to know if there are any others. But everywhere but NC, it looks like the GOP is opting for incumbent protection first.

    330. Meldrim says:

      mnw, I do have a job. And my law degree is from Yale Law School. Sorry, they didn’t teach me how to mix a mochacchino like they taught you at Starbucks Law.

      But more important than my credentials is the fact that I know about the composition of MO-05 and what actually matters in a VRA lawsuit.

      The MO-05 is only 22% black. You claimed that it must be a black plurality district (meaning that is has more blacks than it does whites or any individual other race) because it elects a black congressman, meaning that you assume that a black candidate could never be elected in a white-majority district, despite Andrew Young breaking that barrier in GA-05 in 1972 and Alan Wheat doing so *in that very same MO-05* as early as 1982. Is it that you think that, as Al Campanis might have put it, blacks “may not have some of the necessities” to be elected in a white district, or that, as Ta-Nehisi Coates might put it, that white voters are so inherently racist that they wouldn’t vote for a black candidate? So, is your opinion of a black candidate’s capacity so low, or it it your opinion of white voters’ fairness that is so low?

      Regarding the legal question, it is completely irrelevant to VRA analysis whether the incumbent congressman in a white district is black or white. A district that is 64.2% white and 22% black is not subject to the prohibition on retrogression, full stop. You said that you practiced law for over 40 years and have been retired for a while now, so you probably went to law school before VRA jurisprudence had been developed (or, for that matter, baristas learned to draw flowers on lattes), but ignorance is no excuse when you willfully misrepresent facts and make assumptions about things about which you have not read.

      You can say “I was mistaken about the composition of the MO-05, but I don’t think that Republicans in the MO legislature will want to draw out a senior congressman such as Cleaver, not because there is any legal impediment to them doing so, but for prudential reasons.” Reasonable minds can disagree on whether legislators should be more or less aggressive in redistricting, and you certainly are entitled to your own opinion on such matters. But you are not entitled to your own facts. Everything that you have said about the history and composition of the district, and about the risk that a map that decreases the black percentage from 22% to 20% would be struck down, is wrong.

    331. Jeff G. says:

      Wes, I’m 100% on board with you. His presentation was inelegant, but the sentiment probably aligns quite well with the NC electorate. He’ll be fine politically from this, no matter how much Cooper cries homophobia.

    332. mnw says:

      I’m impressed that you went to Yale Law. Truly.

      I’m still waiting for you to state how likely you think it is that your map, or any map targeting Cleaver, will actually be adopted.

      If you concede your map is a non-starter, then what the hell is the point of all your posts about MO-05, anyway?

      Btw, the use of “GFY” is more responsible than anything else for the fact that this site has lost over half of it’s regular posters since 2020, imo.

    333. Wes says:

      NC Republicans haven’t forgotten the dictatorial way the NCSC ruled the state and tried to turn it into a liberal utopia after going 6-1 D-R, Mnw. Besides that, after winning majorities in both houses of the General Assembly in 2010, Republicans have generally taken a “damn the torpedoes” approach to things.

      They were aggressive in redistricting in 2012 and have decided to be again now that Newby can slow walk the inevitable Dem lawsuit intended to overturn the lines. They know Republicans are likely to regain a majority on the NCSC next year and are aware even if they get a negative Circuit Court ruling, the national Supreme Court has already ruled in favor of partisan gerrymandering.

      Ergo, Tarheel Republicans see no reason not to reverse the recent court gerrymander and go all in on maximizing power in the NCCD. Democrats will bitch, but they’ll do that any time they can’t steamroll the GOP. Thus, NC Republicans see no reason not to return the favor.

    334. mnw says:

      I hope that all works out, Wes. Seems like it has a lot of moving parts.

    335. Phil says:

      …and the delicious part of all that, Wes……..Governor Cooper can’t do a damned thing about it.

    336. Meldrim says:

      #335, Wes, you are correct that the GOP did not have “complete control” of MO redistricting in 1992, 2002 or 2012. The GOP did have large majorities in both houses in 2012 (thanks, suicidal Democrats passing Obamacare right before the 2010 elections!), and were able, with the help of a few black Democrats in the legislature, to override Democrat Gov. Jay Nixon’s veto of the redistricting plan that extended the black-majority MO-01 to encompass the entire city of St. Louis and additional racially diverse suburbs (thus screwing over white Democrat Russ Carnahan). However, Republicans would not have been able to count on getting any Democrats to go along with voting to override Nixon’s veto of a map that gave Eldridge Cleaver a GOP-majority district.

      But even if Republicans had 2/3 in each house, or had there been a GOP governor, I don’t think that they would have tried to draw out Cleaver in 2012 because (i) the next-door MO-04, which would have to absorb a lot of Jackson County Democrats for such plan to work, had only just elected its first Republican Representative in decades (Vicky Hartzler, who defeated longtime Democrat Congressman Ike Skelton by only 5% in the 2010 GOP landslide), and they wanted to make such district more, not less, Republican, and (ii) rural counties right outside the St. Louis metro area had voted Democrat from 1992 to 2000, and had been relatively marginal in 2004 and 2008, so there was a perceived risk that Democrats could pick up several seats in western MO if Democrats weren’t packed into Cleaver’s MO-05.

      Ten years have passed since then, and neither of those conditions exists anymore. The rural counties outside the KC metro area now vote overwhelmingly Republican, and there is no need to shore up GOP districts in the region. In fact, even after packing erstwhile Democrats into the MO-05 (including those from as far away as Saline County), Cleaver only managed to be reelected by 51.6% to 45.0% in 2014. The district is ripe for the picking if it is drawn to go straight south from KC instead of having it go east and then north and then east and then north and northeast, with separate tentacles going north of the Jackson County bulk of St. Louis, as under the current, 2012-drawn gerrymander.

    337. mnw says:

      So how likely IS that, Mel?

      Hartzler’s seat will be open again in 2020, btw.

    338. Meldrim says:

      mnw, I don’t know whether the MO legislature will have the gumption to do what MO Democrats fear that they will do with regard to MO-05. My comment regarding Missouri redistricting was not that I have a reliable source that assures me that the MO legislature would draw out Cleaver (I don’t), but that the MO legislature *should* draw out Cleaver, and that there are no legal or, IMHO, electoral impediments to such action. I honestly can’t remember what the context was for my comment about MO redistricting a couple of weeks ago, but I’m certain that I didn’t say that “this surely is what MO Republicans will do.” I certainly hope that they do so, though.

      Regarding my use of GFY, it’s been going on here for many, many years. I’ll take your objection to the phrase under advisement.

    339. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes – Tgca needs to push the absurd notion Trump was like Reagan for some reason known only to him. That is also why he hammers Reagan for being a New Deal Democrat in the 1930s but gives Trump a free pass for funding Dems including Bill and Hillary, Schumer and Reid.

    340. Meldrim says:

      #345, mnw, Hartzler’s seat voted for Trump over Hillary by 65% to 29% in 2016 and for Trump over Biden by 66%-32% in 2020. I don’t think that Republicans have anything to fear regarding their ability to hold it in 2022, even if they add all of Independence and the rest of eastern Jackson County to the district. It would be the redrawn MO-05, which would have the Jackson County bulk of KC, that might be potentially competitive.

    341. Bitterlaw says:

      Meldrim went to Yale? Damn. Why is he slumming here?

    342. jason says:

      Regarding my use of GFY, it’s been going on here for many, many years. I’ll take your objection to the phrase under advisement.”

      Looks like Meldrim has A-hole potential, he does have some fascist propensities, but hey nobody is perfect.

      I mean look at Bitter, he thinks Wah-Wah is better than Sheetz.

    343. Bitterlaw says:

      A new A-hole? Well, we have been leaking members lately.

    344. Wes says:

      Meldrim, I’m curious about your thoughts on what Mark Robinson said.

    345. mnw says:

      I voted for & contributed to Hartzler when she beat Skelton. (My residence ((i.e., the one where I vote)) was subsequently removed from her district & placed in Luetkemeyer’s. I know that Hartzler’s seat is safe, even though it will be open in ’20. She sent me a handwritten note thanking me for my donations, when she beat Skelton. I doubt she’ll win the Senate primary, but I hope she will.

      I think we’ve gone about as far as I care to go on MO-05. I’m standing pat, & predicting that there is zero chance the MO GOP will target Cleaver. I base this on my own experience and observations of MO politics for over 53 years. I first voted in MO in 1968, & you had to be 21 back then. That kind of lengthy observation is not nothing.

    346. Tina says:

      Did he send it to Mrs. Dick Cheney, Drat Representative from Virginia?

      Eric Trump
      @EricTrump
      · 2h
      The House Oversight Committee is one of the most worthless and incompetent groups of people to ever hold power – please learn the difference between Gross Revenue and Net Profit before writing us long letters. Moreover, focus on helping our crumbling country vs harnessing Trump.

    347. Tina says:

      Is he the one that sought out the boy interns?

      Rick Wilson
      @TheRickWilson
      · 4h
      1/ I have some bad news. After multiple calls I have some extremely grim news.

      As of now 1/6 commission is dead already, and will not enforce the subpoenas.

      Trump wins.

      The 1/6 terror plot will go unexamined and unpunished.

      To say I’m livid is putting it mildly.

    348. Wes says:

      I’m impressed. Tina went two posts without finding a contrived reason to attack Mitch McConnell.

    349. Meldrim says:

      #352, Wes, I saw the clip, and I think that it’s silly for Democrats to call on Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson to resign over his statement condemning teaching schoolchildren about the “filth” of transgenderism and homosexuality. If Democrats want to support teaching schoolkids about deviant sexual practices and about how women can have penises, then they should campaign on that, not brand the speaker as a “homophobe” who should be removed from office. Then again, I’m someone who donated to that other black Robinson from NC, Vernon, during his congressional runs during the 2000s, so I don’t scare easily. Remember his slogan? “Jesse Helms is back, and this time he’s black!” (That actually was an attack that a liberal made against Vernon Robinson when he served in the Winston-Salem city council, and Robinson took it as a source of pride.)

      Returning to Mark Robinson, my qualms about him are his past comments of an anti-Semitic nature. I’m taking a “wait-and-see” attitude towards him before deciding whether he should be the GOP gubernatorial nominee in 2024–I certainly wouldn’t feel comfortable having him be the GOP U.S. Senate nominee next year.

      BTW, did you read my reaction to the initial NC congressional redistricting map? I’ll repost it here for your convenience:

      That initial NC congressional redistricting map is just that–an initial map. I find it hard to believe that the GOP will end up adopting a map in which they try to make the formerly black-majority (and currently “black-influence”) NC-01 held by former Congressional Black Caucus Chairman G.K. Butterfield into a GOP district with a far lower black percentage given all of the lawsuits that it would bring.

      Yes, many of the rural districts in NE NC with fairly large black populations are politically marginal, but Bertie, Hertford, Northampton, Halifax, Edgecombe, Warren and Vance counties are both heavily black and heavily Democrat. Those counties can be appended to slightly GOP-leaning Granville and overwhelmingly Democrat Durham and Orange counties to create an overwhelmingly Democrat CD that, because Orange is overwhelmingly white, would leave the black percentage at around 38%-40% (which is where the courts wanted it so that it neither “packed blacks into a single district and thus limited their ability to influence elections” nor “split blacks into several districts and thus failed to permit them to elect the candidate of their choice.”) Some rural parts of Orange would have to be left out so as to make the population the required 745,671, and I don’t know exactly how those areas voted, but I’m 99% certain that the district that I described would have given Trump between 27.2% and 27.3% in 2020 and between 26.1% and 26.2% in 2016 and would have give Romney around 28.7% in 2012.

      Drawing an urban Charlotte NC-12 also would be around 38%-40% black, and would keep its black congresswoman safe. The third Democrat CD can be centered in Raleigh and its most Democrat suburbs in Wake County, and would be maybe 30% black. That is better than drawing two Dem districts in Wake/Orange/Durham and inviting a sure lawsuit by adding white rural counties to the black-influence NC-01.

      Splitting Fayetteville that way is completely unnecessary and would make it easier for the NC Supreme Court to strike down the map as a political gerrymander (which it did to the 2014 map). They should keep Cumberland County (which includes Fayetteville) whole and attach it to all of Sampson, Duplin, Onslow and Carteret counties and part of Pender County, which would be a GOP district with a fairly regular shape. That CD would have given Trump almost 54% in 2020 and around 53.3% in 2016, and would have given Romney around 51.5% in 2012.

      Guilford (Greensboro and High Point) does need to be split up, but it should be two ways, not three ways, with High Point being included in a district that goes west into Forsyth County (Winston-Salem) and counties to the north and west (but not Democrat Watauga) and the other 80% of Guilford being in a district with heavily GOP Randolph and Davidson counties. Both CDs would have given Trump between 53.3% and 53.6% in 2020 and around 53% in 2016 and would have given Romney between 53.1% and 53.3% in 2012, and would be very reasonably shaped and respectful of county and city boundaries.

      So, yes, an 11R-3D congressional district map for NC is quite feasible, but I don’t think that that initial proposal is the way to go about it, particularly if you want to make sure that it’s upheld by the courts.

    350. Wes says:

      It seems you’ve researched the issue quite well, Meldrim. Maybe you should E-mail your proposal to the General Assembly so the Republicans in Raleigh can take it under advisement.

      The Republicans have a good plan for locking in a long-term majority in the NCCD, but cracking the black-represented districts in Northeast NC and around Charlotte would throw a wrench in things since even Clarence Thomas has voted against similar GOP proposals elsewhere.

    351. Meldrim says:

      #353, mnw, I, too, hope that Hartzler wins the GOP Senate nomination next year; she has an excellent voting record and is neither too young to make her conservative bona fides questionable nor too old to be unable to accrue seniority and become a committee chairman someday. Also, if Hartzler wins the nomination, the GOP would be assured of winning the general, which is more than I can say for former Gov. Eric Greitens.

      When you say that you doubt that Hartzler will win the nomination, is it because you think that Greitens will hold on to his lead due to the anti-Greitens vote being split among several candidates? That’s my fear, and the reason why I hope that Billy Long changes his mind and decides to run for reelection instead of for the Senate and that AG Eric Schmitt gives up his run and announces that he’ll either seek reelection or the lieutenant governorship in 2024 instead.

    352. mnw says:

      I don’t think Hartzler has the name rec to raise the money she will need. I plan to vote for her & contribute again, though, as generously as I can.

      I dread Greitens. I was shocked by the recent poll showing him leading the primary field. Yes, I think the presence of several serious “anti-Greitens” candidates (altho I doubt any of them would describe themselves as such) apparently keeps Greitens viable.

      When Greitens was elected gov, one major donor contributed a hugely disproportionate amount of all the money Greitens raised for the GOP primary. That gives me some hope.

      In any event, I consider the MO Senate seat to be safe for the GOP, just like everybody else. Even Greitens would win it, imo.

      The MO AG (Schmitt) isn’t well-known. From a Trumpian populist standpoint, all of the GOP candidates would be an upgrade from Blunt.

    353. Phil says:

      I like Hartzler as well. From what little I know I believe she’d be the best candidate and would easily win the GE. Most of all, I believe she’d make a really solid Senator.

      ……and please Missouri, no more Todd Akins.

    354. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Regarding Taiwan, George Friedman made a good point about China and it’s current economic crisis:

      “China chose to send fighter planes into Taiwanese air defense zones this weekend. Obviously, if you are planning an invasion, you don’t telegraph your hand; you strive for secrecy. But if you’re trying to make it appear that, regardless of economic problems you remain a great power, this is a useful approach”

    355. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      China has loaned hundreds of billions of dollars to nations throughout the world. What better way to protest a an outrageous attack on Taiwan by China then to default on Chinese debt. Its the right thing to do.

    356. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The recall campaign made Newsom a better politician:

      “SAN DIEGO — Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed legislation that will allow restaurants to offer to-go cocktails until 2026.

      Newsom signed SB 389 Friday, paving the way for restaurants, bars, breweries and wineries that sell food to offer to-go alcoholic beverages with food orders through December 31, 2026.”

    357. mnw says:

      Phil

      Kindly do not blame “Missouri” for Todd Akin, unless you (unlike MO voters) knew what Akin was going to say before he said it.

      Prior to free associating about rape & abortion, which he did AFTER he’d been nominated, this is the sum total of what MO voters knew about Akin:

      1) He was a standard issue, outstate conservative GOP congressman, not appreciably different from other outstate MO GOP congressmen.

      2) He had strong ties to the evangelical community, but so have a lot of other successful MO GOP politicians, i.e., John Ashcroft used to travel MO singing as a solo tenor in church choirs; John Danforth was an ordained minister & divinity school graduate, & so on. In MO, ties to the evangelical community is usually an advantage for a GOP candidate. Not unusual.

      So… what exactly did MO GOP voters do wrong when they chose Akin, other than being unable to see the future?

      (again I voted for John Brunner in that primary, a successful businessman candidate much like Sen. Ron Johnson in WI. Akin was never my cup of tea)

    358. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Ouch!

      Biden Job Approval:
      Approve 42%
      Disapprove 50%
      @YouGovAmerica/
      @YahooNews
      1,640 Adults, 10/1-4

    359. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Ouch, Ouch!

      Biden Job Approval:
      Approve 40%
      Disapprove 56%
      @trafalgar_group
      1,087 LV, 10/4-6

    360. Wes says:

      Lest you forget, Mnw, Claire McCaskill knew–or at least majorly suspected–Todd Akin would immolate himself in the general. That’s why she ran ads for him during the GOP primary. She even gloated about it in her book.

      It’s not as if no one suspected Akin was a walking political time bomb looking for a place to explode.

    361. Wes says:

      That makes two fairly recent elections in increasingly GOP states where Democrats ran ads to get Republicans to nominate weak candidates.

      McCaskill ran ads for Akin in 2012. Schumer ran ads for Pat Morrisey in West Virginia in 2018.

      Here’s a thought:

      Maybe GOP primary voters shouldn’t be voting for candidates Dems are running ads on behalf of.

    362. Wes says:

      Amazingly, SDC, the lefties on RRH are confident Biden will do no damage to the Democrats in the upcoming elections.

      They keep whistling past the graveyard.

    363. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      371. It is amazing. If the Democrats do badly in the midterm elections, will they then move for Biden’s resignation? They will need a scapegoat.

    364. Country Dick Montana says:

      They won’t ask Biden to resign. The ambitious Dr Jill likes being in the WH and knows exactly what is going on and who is pulling the strings. She ain’t giving up that gig easily.

    365. Wes says:

      Harris is the insurance Biden has against having Dems ask him to resign.

    366. lisab says:

      i heard it is not any transaction over $600

      it is info on all transactions over $600

      so if your combined transactions are over $600 in a year, they can look at everything

    367. Phil says:

      McCaskill absolutely did everything she could do to influence the primary and to draw Akin as an opponent….and Wes is right. She absolutely admitted it. It didn’t take a lot of foresight to see what a clown this guy was. Hell, I posted as much on primary night and said what a disaster this guy was.

      What was worse is the guy had a chance to pull out right after he made a fool out of himself and refused….stayed in and lost Mo. by double digits. I hate to talk bad about the recently deceased but damn.

    368. mnw says:

      McCaskill wanted Akin as her opponent of choice, but she did NOT run ads FOR Akin! — she ran ads AGINST Akin saying, “Akin is too extreme, too conservative for Missouri.”

      I heard those ads.

      Those are not ads that Missouri voters AT THE TIME could say, “McCaskill is running ads for Akin,” Wes.

      Do you REALLY think MO voters knew those ads were intended to benefit Akin? McCaskill’s ads attacking him for being too extreme?

      Just ANOTHER thought: Don’t use hindsight to impugn knowledge to MO voters which they didn’t have.

    369. mnw says:

      Phil

      She boasted about that AFTER the election! Not before.

      Show me the opinion articles/blog posts in which Republicans called Akin a clown BEFORE he made his famous gaffe.

      I thought Akin’s in-your-face religiosity was annoying, but I was there for the whole campaign, and I’m stating that nobody criticized Akin before his GE gaffe.

    370. mnw says:

      Geez, I guess it’s my destiny to defend Akin (before the gaffe) here, & also to stand up for Ann Wagner… and I never cared if either of them lived or died.

    371. Phil says:

      Akin’s in your face religion was absolutely annoying. It’s why Democrats were giddy when he won a plurality in the primary. Of course, losing a ruby red stare by 16 points proved how right they were.

      Question for you, mnw, since you are plugged in on the Mo scene. What’s the story on Jason Kandor? I thought for sure he’d take another shot having come close six yrs ago. He seems to have dropped out of sight.

    372. mnw says:

      Phil

      He has mental problems. PTSD. That’s why.

      I hope Herschel Walker’s history of treatment for multiple personality disorder doesn’t hurt Walker, btw.

    373. jason says:

      Akin was a deadender before and after his asinine statements, let’s get real.

      Anyone who voted for him in the primary was a moron.

      mnw is trying to rewrite history here.

    374. Meldrim says:

      mnw is correct re: Todd Akin and the 2012 GOP primary. McCaskill ran ads saying that Akin was “too extreme and too conservative” for MO, which her campaign presciently believed would have two benefits for her: (i) convincing conservative primary voters, who were weighing which of the three conservative candidates to support, to go for Akin as the most conservative of the three, which gave McCaskill the opponent that she preferred, and (ii) set the narrative that Akin was an extremist conservative, which her campaign was banking on driving suburban women and independent voters away from him. But it probably wouldn’t have been enough to pull McCaskill over the finish line had Akin not misspoken by saying “legitimate rape” when he meant “forcible rape” (in contradistinction to consensual statutory rape). Yes, it still would have been stupid for him to claim that women rarely become pregnant from forcible rape, but it was his reference to “legitimate rape,” with the implication that when a woman becomes pregnant from a rape that it wasn’t really nonconsensual sex, that ultimately sank his candidacy. The worst part is that he might have caved to pressure to drop out (which would have allowed the GOP to name a replacement candidate, which would have resulted in McCaskill’s defeat) had Democrat Tom Jensen’s Public Policy Pollin (PPP) mot released a completely fake poll, allegedly taken after Akin’s gaffe, showing Akin up by 1% over McCaskill.

      And mnw is also correct that no one could have predicted that Akin would implode the way that he did. (And, no, McCaskill didn’t run those ads against Akin in the primary because she knew that he would implode, but because she thought that he would be the easiest candidate to paint as a dangerous extremist.) Akin had been in Congress for 12 years, and prior to that in the MO state house for 12 years as well, all the while representing suburban St. Louis districts. He had never screwed up like that in his 12 prior runs for elective office, and there was no reason to think that his 13th run would be so unlucky.

    375. Meldrim says:

      Jason, your definition of “deadender” over the past decade has been “a candidate that runs for an office, or a voter that votes for a candidate, not because he believes that he will win, but to “send a message” while the Democrat gets elected. Prior to 2012, Akin was elected to the state house 6 times and to the U.S. House of Representatives 6 times, all from suburban St. Louis districts (his replacement in Congress was Ann Wagner). How the heck was he a “deadender”? After he made his stupid comment and refused to drop out of the race, sure, he became a deadender at that point, but that was by no means his track record.

    376. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      RCP polling average of Biden’s job approval:

      Approve 43.4%
      Disapprove 50.3%

      Disasterous foreign policy failures; out of control coronavirus epidemic (more deaths under Biden then Trump); collapsing economy, with shortages and inflation; out-of-control spending.

      Will ask again, can anyone name one positive accomplishment of the Biden presidency? Maybe Robbie can mention one on his next fly-by appearance on the board.

    377. Wes says:

      Well, Mnw, McCaskill herself said she ran the ads to help Akin win. That by definition would make them ads FOR Akin. You may disagree, but the former Senator outright claimed she ran the ads to help Akin win the primary:

      https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/todd-akin-missouri-claire-mccaskill-2012-121262/

    378. Wes says:

      Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Pick me, SDC!

      Biden has achieved exactly one positive thing since taking office:

      He continues to breathe, thus ensuring Kamala isn’t President.

    379. Bitterlaw says:

      Correction – I was the first one at HHR to use the term Deadender. Christine O’Donnell was a perfect example of a Deadender. Senator For Life Coons thanks her every day.

    380. mnw says:

      387 Wes

      That’s dumb. That may have been her intent (a claim she made after she won), nut there was no way for primary voters to KNOW that. At the time, her anti-Akin ads were perceived as just going negative on a potential opponent.

    381. mnw says:

      P.S. I hate being lectured about AkIn by people who weren’t in the MO media markets then, and thus didn’t actually experience the campaign.

      The more interesting question about Akin is, “Why didn’t Brunner beat him in the primary?” One possibility is that pre-Trump & pre-Ron Johnson, GOP voters weren’t willing to gamble on a businessman who had never held office before.

      385 SDC

      I tried hard and can’t think of anything– absolutely nothing. I think one reason is so unpopular is the perception that he pulled a bait-and-switch. People really believed him when he said he was a moderate and a uniter.

    382. mnw says:

      Trafalgar put up another brutal poll for Biden yesterday. JA 39.6 (!) favorable. Among independents… wait for it… 27 (!).

      And among DEMs his JA was only 61. THAT’S new.

      Pretty soon there won’t be enough people left to guard him.

    383. Wes says:

      It may be dumb, Mnw, but I’m going to take the word of the person who actually ran the campaign and laid out her reasoning for her actions over the word of a third-party observer.

      Sorry if that offends you.

    384. Wes says:

      By the way, while we’re claiming offense over being lectured to by people outside the media market for a given race, let’s take a little stroll down memory lane, shall we?

      In 2010, Congressman Bob Etheridge (D-NC) was seeking an eighth term in Congress. Despite reams of evidence Etheridge hurt himself by assaulting two kids who asked him a question, you were adamant the incident made Etheridge more popular ong voters.

      You even went so far as to post letters to the Raleigh News and Observer editor that validated your opinion. When I pointed out to you the RNO is a supremely liberal newspaper, you responded by saying your personal perception of the letters to the editor of a Missouri newspaper were balanced. What relevance your perception of the correspondence to a newspaper 1,000 miles away had to the situation at hand, I still don’t get.

      Anyway, you didn’t live in Etheridge’s district or anywhere near it while I lived in the adjoining NC-7 at the time and saw all this unfolding in real time. That didn’t stop you from lecturing me on how Etheridge was assured to win an election he lost.

      Now you’re upset because I cite the words of the very person who ran the ads claiming Akin was the most conservative person in the 2012 MO-Sen primary.

      That’s some chutzpah on your part.

    385. Tina says:

      Sdc, regarding the economy, the Atlanta Fed is now projecting Gdp growth rate of 1%.

      I am enjoying the $4.45 a gallon gas prices in October.

    386. jason says:

      Jason, your definition of “deadender” over the past decade has been “a candidate that runs for an office, or a voter that votes for a candidate, not because he believes that he will win, but to “send a message” while the Democrat gets elected. Prior to 2012, Akin was elected to the state house 6 times and to the U.S. House of Representatives 6 times, all from suburban St. Louis districts (his replacement in Congress was Ann Wagner). How the heck was he a “deadender”? After he made his stupid comment and refused to drop out of the race, sure, he became a deadender at that point, but that was by no means his track record.”

      Sorry Meldrim, I know you are a big time attorney and all that, but you don’t get to make my definitions for me.

      In my view, Akin was a deadender BEFORE and AFTER he made his stupid comments because I viewed him as too conservative to win a state wide race at the time in MO, or at least I didn’t view him as the best candidate to do so.

      The fact he was elected previously in a very conservative district doesn’t change that. A deadender might be not be a deadender for a congressional district but may be a deadender for a state wide or national race.

      And the fact Skyqueen wanted him to win tells you everything.

      I hope it is clear now, and don’t forget to GFY.

    387. jason says:

      mnw claims to have been for Brunner but spends long posts defending Akin all the time, not to mention every other deadender you can think of.

      With his record of lies here, I think this is another one.

    388. jason says:

      Well, Mnw, McCaskill herself said she ran the ads to help Akin win. That by definition would make them ads FOR Akin. You may disagree, but the former Senator outright claimed she ran the ads to help Akin win the primary:”

      Because….drum roll… Akin was a deadender she thought she could beat.

      This is not rocket science.

    389. mnw says:

      Wes

      I was certainly wrong about Ethridge, & you were right. I thought jerking one of those obnoxious wannabe journos up on his toes was gratifying, though.

      Again, can you explain how MO voters were supposed to know that McC’s anti-Akin ads (“extremist”) were actually pro-Akin, at the time the ads ran, as opposed to when Claire wrote her book?

      You “cite the words of the very person who ran the ads” after she won, not at the time the ads in question ran.

    390. mnw says:

      Same question to you,Jason.

      Meldrin & I have had our differences, but he posted the exact same thing I did, just above.

    391. Gordon Allen says:

      Tina: the Atlanta fed gdp tracker has been sliding for many weeks. In July I recall it being above 6%,or briefly even higher.
      As both of us have been saying,we’re plainly headed to stagflation..
      It took nearly 3 years for Carter to get us there: this demented fool less than 1
      When your principal policy makers are Biden,Harris,Schumer,Pelosi,and Powell,think cliff and over

    392. Wobbles says:

      “Maybe Robbie can mention one on his next fly-by appearance on the board.”

      Sorry, but I am here to talk about jason.

    393. jason says:

      Meldrin & I have had our differences, but he posted the exact same thing I did, just above.”

      I already answered it.

      GFY too.

    394. jason says:

      So mnw, what is your excuse for supporting the king of scumbag deadenders, Kris Kobach?

      I am sure you can come up with a long list of excuses for why he wasn’t a deadender like you do for a moron like Akin.

    395. jason says:

      You “cite the words of the very person who ran the ads” after she won, not at the time the ads in question ran.”

      Zzzzzzz…

      Wins the convoluted logic award for the day.

      Yes, what better “witness” do you want than the person who ran the ads?

      This was a crowded primary, nobody really knew who was ahead, so it would make no sense for McCaskill to try to “run against Akin as a future opponent”.

      The only logical reason for the ads was to help him win the primary so she could run against a weak candidate.

      The fact the person who ran the ads confirmed it should be more than enough proof that was the case.

    396. jason says:

      Finally, there is no reason for McCaskill to lie about this. None.

    397. mnw says:

      Since you called me a liar, I’m not going to respond to posts from you any longer.

      I will state what I suspect many here believe: your rudeness and constant profane posts are the main reason this site has lost so many of its longtime regular posters.

    398. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      2024 National General Election Poll:

      Joe Biden 43% (+2)
      Donald Trump 41%

      @RedfieldWilton
      ~ 1,150 LV ~ 10/5

    399. mnw says:

      SDC

      I really have no problem believing that poll.

      Trump comes with a lot of negative baggage (in the eyes of most voters).

    400. jason says:

      And so, to close this out so I can go back to important matters like defending Reagan’s legacy against Tgca’s silly attacks and discussing deplorable voter strategy with Bitter, just let me say that if wes is right about why Skyqueen ran anti-Akin ads, and he certainly is, it definitely tags Akin as a deadender BEFORE he self destructed.

    401. jason says:

      Since you called me a liar, I’m not going to respond to posts from you any longer.”

      Hmmm, Meldrim called you a bald faced liar about 10 times yesterday, can’t you give me a break?

    402. jason says:

      Btw, I am seeing more A-hole potential for Meldrim every day.

      Not only did he call mnw a liar and tell him to GFH, he now has the chutzpah of making definitions for me.

      Of course, the A-hole clubhouse might not be big enough for two big time attorneys.

    403. mnw says:

      If anyone here is new (unlikely), “liar,” “moron,” “idiot” & “deadender” are terms Jason applies to anyone he dislikes and/or with whom he disagrees.

      I don’t care for it.

    404. jason says:

      If anyone here is new (unlikely), “liar,” “moron,” “idiot” & “deadender” are terms Jason applies to anyone he dislikes and/or with whom he disagrees.”

      Why shortchange yourself?

      I argued with Bitter all day yesterday and never called him a liar, deadender or idiot or moron.

      You are special.

    405. mnw says:

      I’ve never once said that Akin wasn’t McC’s opponent of choice. He was. But no-one in MO AT THE TIME realized that her anti-Akin ads were really pro-Akin ads, at least none that I recall..

    406. Tina says:

      Isn’t she the “border czar?”

      Bill Melugin
      @BillFOXLA
      · 13m
      “Border czar Kamala Harris skipped a high-level meeting with Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador Friday to discuss the migrant crisis at the US’s southern border – to visit a daycare center in New Jersey instead.”

      https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10073323/Blinken-meets-Lopez-Obrador-soothe-thorny-U-S-Mexico-relations.html

    407. jason says:

      And my law degree is from Yale Law School. Sorry, they didn’t teach me how to mix a mochacchino like they taught you at Starbucks Law.”

      I just saw this putdown as I reviewed the thread to see who I called a moron yesterday. Not bad.

      Btw, I called Mark Levin a moron. Akin. Akin’s voters. And Tgca for trashing Reagan.

      I kinda feel bad calling Tgca a moron. Anybody who survives on organic tree bark dipped in organic maple syrup deserves special consideration.

      I will go easy on Tgca today unless he says anything derogatory about bacon or llamas. I have my limits

    408. jason says:

      I’ve never once said that Akin wasn’t McC’s opponent of choice. He was.”

      And why do you think that was? No need to answer, you already made my point.

    409. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “CNN)President Joe Biden on Friday attributed the disappointing September jobs report to the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic but sought to frame the new data as steady progress toward the nation’s economic recovery.”

      Biden likes to blame every problem on the unvaccinated. He is never going to admit his leftist agenda is to blame.

    410. jason says:

      constant profane posts are the main reason this site has lost so many of its longtime regular posters.’

      Can you give any examples? This should be good.

      But if you are giving me credit for the fact Amoral Scumbag, the Biden Troll, Roadkill Maggot, Trump is Pete Wilson, etc. rarely post here I thank you but I couldn’t have done it without the help of others.

      Also can you give me an example of a “profane post”? Outside of GFY which is almost an endearment used by many here what do I say that is “profane”?

      GFY.

    411. jason says:

      It is true we are missing some regulars.

      Wtf is Scooter? I think because he is deaf he hasn’t heard our calls to return. We are also missing other A-holes like Brandon, Vito, Wvally…

      EMl? Barrett? Waingro?

      Michael went woke and to the dark side, that was sad.

      Tina is back. DW seems to be making a modest comeback. All is not bleak.

    412. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      416. Mark Levin is clearly very intelligent, but his intensity and shrillness turn people off. His diatribes remind me of letting the air out of a balloon. His delivery interferes with his message.

    413. jason says:

      Can Cash Cow or Walt comment, breaking news.

      “CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — A malfunction caused West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice to become trapped in the elevator at the governor’s residence Thursday, his office said.

      The Republican governor was stuck for about 30 minutes after the malfunction as mansion staff, state police and other state government personnel worked to open the elevator, Justice’s office said in a news release.

      A crowbar and other tools were used to pry open the elevator doors, the statement said.

      “I appreciate those who helped out this afternoon and the expressions of concern I’ve received,” Justice said.”

      I don’t want to be unkind, but could it be because Justice looks like he weighs more than Cash Cow?

    414. jason says:

      416. Mark Levin is clearly very intelligent, but his intensity and shrillness turn people off. His diatribes remind me of letting the air out of a balloon. His delivery interferes with his message.”

      Sorry, I am not a great fan of the “message” either.

    415. jason says:

      My main issue with Levin, besides the fact he is an insufferable blowhard, is that he wants to pretend he is some kind of “constitutional scholar” but he constantly bastardizes the Constitution to support his narrative.

      Btw, I used to say the same about another “constitutional scholar”, Barack Obama.

    416. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Picasso Biden had sold some of his “art work”.

      “Hunter Biden’s artwork reportedly sold for $75,000 apiece before his official New York City art show even opened.”

      The Bidens’ sleaziness continues; they like to flaunt it in plain sight. This family being in the White House is a low point in American history.

    417. jason says:

      I hope mnw doesn’t mind me calling anyone who buys a Hunter Biden painting a moron.

    418. jason says:

      McConnell tears Schumer a new one..

      “Last night, in a bizarre spectacle, Senator Schumer exploded in a rant that was so partisan, angry, and corrosive that even Democratic Senators were visibly embarrassed by him and for him. This tantrum encapsulated and escalated a pattern of angry incompetence from Senator Schumer,” McConnell wrote.

      McConnell warned that Schumer’s “childish behavior” had “alienated” GOP senators who helped advance the short-term debt increase and “poisoned the well even further.” They are likely the same GOP senators Schumer would need to lean on to raise the debt ceiling outside of reconciliation later this year.

      “I am writing to make it clear that in light of Senator Schumer’s hysterics and my grave concerns about the ways that another vast, reckless, partisan spending bill would hurt Americans and help China, I will not be a party to any future effort to mitigate the consequences of Democratic mismanagement,” he added.

    419. mnw says:

      SDC

      I finally thought of something Biden is doing, or at least talking about doing, that I like (It only took me 4 hours):

      “Biden Weighing Greater Oversight Of Cryptocurrencies”

      So, there’s that.

    420. jason says:

      Translation for ‘greater oversight’

      ‘We want to control cryptocurrencies just like we want to control every other aspect of your life.”

      I don’t trust the Biden administration on oversight of anything.

      Crytocurrencies are now mainstream and Biden probably just wants to find a way to tax it more.

      “As the first big Wall Street bank to embrace cryptocurrencies, Morgan Stanley announced on 17 March 2021 that they will be offering access to Bitcoin funds for their wealthy clients through three funds which enable Bitcoin ownership for investors with an aggressive risk tolerance. BNY Mellon on 11 February 2021 announced that it would begin offering cryptocurrency services to its clients.

      On 20 April 2021, Venmo added support to its platform to enable customers to buy, hold and sell cryptocurrencies.”

    421. jason says:

      I don’t pretend to have more than a rudimentary knowledge of crytpocurrencies.

      But my kids have made money on them and think I am a dinosaur for not investing.

      I plan to spend some time trying to understand it better.

      But “oversight” or no, they aren’t going anywhere.

    422. mnw says:

      The Hill: “Democratic Anxiety Rising As Trump Bid Appears More Likely”

      Obviously the DEMs mean the opposite of what they’re saying, in order to get their opponent of choice! It’s a complex DEM plot! That’s why I ALWAYS vote for candidates according to the hidden message I perceive in DEM ads! /s

    423. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      427. “I hope mnw doesn’t mind me calling anyone who buys a Hunter Biden painting a moron.”

      Depends, perhaps Joe Biden will make their purchase worthwhile. It is hard to believe anyone would buy a Hunter Biden “art work” without an ulterior motive.

    424. Tina says:

      I will buy a Hunter Biden painting,

      -Jebot

    425. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @townhallcom
      REPORTER: “What do you make of these really terrible polls?”

      @PressSec: “This is a really tough time in our country…we still have 20% of the country who’ve decided not to get vaccinated.”

      Pathetic. So Afghanistan, the Biden crime wave, socialist economic policies, and China’s threats to Taiwan are all because of the unvaccinated.

    426. jason says:

      without an ulterior motive”

      There is a an ulterior motive.

      Curry favor with the Biden administration and/or help Hunter Biden.

    427. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      An unidentified crop duster airplane reportedly took off from Bogo Pogo airport. It is either Amelia Earhart, or Robbie is going to make another fly-by to denounce Donald Trump.

    428. jason says:

      I think the unvaccinate are responsible for global warming too.

    429. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The unvaccinated are also responsible for the Biden crime wave, and the Taliban occupying Kabul so quickly. They also are the reason why Mars is so red, and Biden is so often confused.

    430. Wobbles says:

      Robbie is going to make another fly-by to denounce Donald Trump.”

      No, today I am here to praise the best President since my dream of Jeb as President.

      Did you see Biden got the unemployment rate down to 4.8%?

      What a man!

    431. jason says:

      I am worried.

      Tgca is missing today.

      When you weigh 74 lbs and only eat desiccated tree bark you never know what might happen, starvation is just around the corner.

    432. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Scott Rasmussen take on Biden:

      “Biden’s horrible poll numbers are not an accident. They are the product of a president who misread his mandate, ignored the fundamental reasons voters trusted him with this office, and chose to pursue a more ideologically left-wing agenda than his campaign suggested he would. He also invited problems (such as withdrawing from Afghanistan and ignoring advice to leave a residual troop presence), and then he lied about them.

      Biden’s campaign promise was to be a competent uniter who calmed things down. And while it isn’t over till the fat lady sings, he has so far failed miserably.”

    433. jason says:

      Babylon Bee:

      Biden invites Brandon to WH to congratulate him on his success.

      Babylon Bee II:

      Terrorists released from Guatanamo to make room for parents protesting school boards.

    434. jason says:

      Interesting polling for every state and every demographic and party affiliation.

      I see Manchin has a lot of incentive to tie himself to Biden.

      Biden’s approval in WV is 19%.

      https://civiqs.com/results/approve_president_biden?uncertainty=true&annotations=true&zoomIn=true&map=true

    435. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @ScottWRasmussen
      51% Say Making It Harder to Cheat More Important Than Making It Easier to Vote; 37% Disagree … Most Dems (57%) say making it easier to vote is more important. Most GOP (70%) and Independents (52%) believe focus should be making it harder to cheat.

    436. jason says:

      Among whites in WV it is 12%.

      This is a state where Carter beat Ford by 18 in 1976 and Reagan by 5 in 1980.

    437. jason says:

      Basically Dems are saying go ahead disenfranchise me as long as it helps Dems win.

      Sad.

    438. jason says:

      Biden’s new friends throw him under the bus.

      ‘Taliban say they won’t work with US to contain ISIS”

    439. Wes says:

      428 can’t possibly be true, Jason. According to Tina, McConnell is nothing but a useful idiot for the Left whose primary goal in the Senate is to advance the Dems’ agenda. McConnell can’t possibly speak ill of Schumer–or so Tina and Gateway Pundit believe.

    440. Wes says:

      Mnw, since I don’t think McCaskill was lying three years after running ads in the 2012 GOP MO-Sen primary, I’m going to ask why you do. Assuming she’s not lying, she certainly had no reason to broadcast her intention during the primary. Brunner or Steelman would have immediately used her words to paint Akin as McCaskill’s opponent of choice. Explaining her reasoning three years after the election makes sense because by that time, she was past any repercussions for her actions.

      You used to post on RRH. They created a whole term for what McCaskill did: “ratf*cking,” i e, the attempt by one party to influence the primary of the other so as to produce the nomination of the opponent of choice. When even that gaggle of bedwetters and Dem useful idiots could see what McCaskill was doing and create a term to describe it, that should tell you something.

    441. Tom says:

      449. And they have thousands of hostages to prevent any US retaliation.

    442. Wes says:

      This shocked me:

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/larry-hogan-ponders-maryland-senate-race

      Larry Hogan is considering challenging Chris van Hollen. That would put Dems’ slim chances of holding onto the Senate next year into jeopardy. Although Hogan would be unlikely to win, he’d force the DSCC to spend money on an otherwise noncompetitive race.

      A Hogan run would also test Biden’s declining popularity. If he were to maintain competitiveness with van Hollen–already having a poll showing him ahead 50-42–then it would be a clear sign Biden is damaging his party everywhere with his sagging polling.

    443. jason says:

      McCaskill had no reason to lie. None.

      The problem is it doesn’t fit mnw’s narrative that Akin was only an “accidental deadender”.

      He wasn’t. He was a disaster looking for a place to happen. It was just a question when.

      And McCaskill knew it.

    444. Bitterlaw says:

      Michael told me his handle was hacked and denied making woke posts. He is running for borough council in Media, PA.

    445. jason says:

      Hogan would be an improvement over Van Hollen.

    446. jason says:

      As a Republican?

    447. jason says:

      The problem is the woke Michael actually sounded like the real Michael.

      But I will take his word for it.

      Is he still gay and still have a salmon colored jacket/

    448. Bitterlaw says:

      He is running as a Republican. No salmon colored clothes in any FB photos.

    449. Wes says:

      Give my best to Mike, Bitter.

    450. mnw says:

      451 Wes

      If you read my earlier posts about Akin above, I already said I DON’T think McCaskill was lying about wanting Akin as her opponent of choice. I believe she was truthful in that. I also believe she was truthful in saying that her anti-Akin ads were intended to help Akin win the primary.

      What I DO say is that GOP primary voters in MO were unaware of that, & just took her anti-Akin “extremist” ads as… anti-Akin attack ads.

      I still post at RRH, btw, altho not often. I put up one pro-Vicky Hartzler post this morning. I’ll take your word for it that RRH posters back then identified the “rat****ing” going on, but… you can’t really think that the tens of thousands of MO GOP Primary voters, who AREN’T nerdy political geeks like the RRH mods, saw that at the time? That’s preposterous.

      Akin won a plurality in that primary because of his fervent support among evangelicals, I believe– a very considerable force in the MO GOP, then as now.

      Again, Akin had a LONG track record in public office before he ran for the Senate, & he hadn’t said anything outlandish previously. But for his stupid gaffe after he was nominated, I think he would’ve had a good chance of winning. I think the other two, especially Brunner, would have had an even better chance. Brunner would’ve won, imo. Steelman,,, maybe. (I had some issues with her candidacy. She was vulnerable to a charge of exploiting her well-known family name for personal financial gain– think Hunter without the hookers & blow.)

      I thought Brunner was extraordinarily impressive, & I’m sure McC realized what a formidable opponent he would’ve been. He presented himself just as Ron Johnson did in WI.

      I’ve been characterized as “defending Akin,” but what I’m really doing is refuting the casual assertion that MO voters are stupid. We/they didn’t know Akin was going to shoot off his mouth about not getting pregnant if you’re raped.

      McC was a clever politician. I was stunned when she beat Jim Talent. MO voters were finally able to replace her with a fine upstanding GOP candidate, happily.

    451. jason says:

      but what I’m really doing is refuting the casual assertion that MO voters are stupid.”

      Only the 36% that voted for Akin.

    452. Cash Cow TM says:

      Today has been an exhausting day.

      #############################################

      I watched Walt (and his son) spend 3 hours on the chipper/shredder to get rid of immense piles of plant debris.

      Then, I watched him spend 3 hours on his hands and knees cutting weeds out of the lawn.

    453. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Can Cash Cow or Walt comment, breaking news.

      “CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — A malfunction caused West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice to become trapped in the elevator…”

      First time Walt and I have heard about that.
      ************************************************
      There is another lawsuit pending against Gov. Justice violating WV law by not actually residing at the governor’s mansion. He rarely stays there and usually just drives (or flys) into Charleston from Greenbrier county where he lives near the big
      Greenbriar Resort he owns.

      Maybe he got stuck there on purpose to “prove” he is actually living there.

    454. jason says:

      Is there a law that he has to live in the governor’s mansion?

      If not he should tell everyone to GFTs.

    455. jason says:

      I don’t know what the WV governor’s mansion is like but I have been in the PA governor’s mansion and it is not very impressive. If I had $1.5 billion like Justice has I wouldn’t live there. It is in a crappy neighborhood of Harrisburg and the inside is dark and musty.

      The basement floods frequently, in 1972 the Governor had to be rescued by boat. Last time it was evacuated due to flooding was 2011.

    456. lisab says:

      Candlelight Concert in the Courtyard with Radnor High School’s Orchestra

      About this Event

      Enjoy French Impressionistic selections with light Jazz and Rock songs!

      Featuring string ensemble, harp, guitar, vocals and more.
      5:30pm in the Willows Mansion Courtyard.

    457. Wes says:

      I agree Hawley is a distinct improvement over McCaskill, Mnw. Of course her campaign against him was weak from the start. She accused him of “climbing the ladder”–as if looking for promotions in politics is a bad thing. Then too McCaskill started her political career in the ’80s in the State Legislature before moving to county office and running for statewide office (winning four of five times) before 2018.

      She blamed her loss on Dems’ lack of outreach to rural voters, though I’d postulate while that was a factor, her voting like Bernie Sanders in an increasingly conservative state was likely also a reason.

    458. mnw says:

      Cow

      Maybe the doors at the WV governor’s mansion are too narrow?

    459. mnw says:

      Wes

      She lost because she was too liberal for an already red state that has kept on getting redder & redder.

      As for “lack of outreach to rural voters,” her volunteers were probably afraid to go down there.

      One last point on Akin, a subject that we’ve pretty well exhausted:

      Does anyone think he would’ve won the GOP primary if he’d talked about how “you can’t get pregnant from rape” BEFORE the primary? Of course not. His supporters weren’t crazy, & they didn’t know Akin was.

    460. mnw says:

      It would’ve been gracious if at some point Air Claire had at least acknowledged that Hawley was a very good candidate. THAT might have been a factor.

      Except for his lack of military service, Hawley fit MO like a custom-made glove.

    461. Wes says:

      Maybe, maybe not, Mnw. Two years earlier in Delaware, Christine O’Donnell had had a series of scandals big and small including a dine-and-dash and questionable financial dealings including turning her townhouse over to someone else at the last second to avoid seizure for failure to pay on it. She still won the primary 53-47 over Mike Castle–and proceeded to dig the DEGOP into a hole it still hasn’t climbed out of

      Akin would have had his hardcore supporters even had he made such an idiotic statement before the primary. In a widely divided field, he may still have prevailed.

      Fear of Akin Redux is probably why Republicans are looking at establishing a runoff so as to ensure Greitens can’t win with a plurality of the vote and proceed to gaffe away the seat up next year.

    462. Wes says:

      The one good thing about people like Akin and O’Donnell was that national Republicans started being proactive about nuking their weakest possible candidates in the primaries. It hasn’t been perfect as AL-Sen in 2017 and WV-Sen and VA-Sen in 2018 proved, but Republicans have left many fewer Senate seats on the table since 2014 because of all those unelectable nominees from a decade ago.

    463. jason says:

      Akin was a deadender before and after the primary.

      He only self destructed with the rape comment.

      The fact McCaskill picked him as the patsy to beat proves it.

    464. Wes says:

      Of course Deadenders have adapted too, though thankfully not so well. See Aaron Day in NH-Sen in 2016, who singlehandedly elected a moonbat over Kelly Ayotte.

    465. mnw says:

      472 Wes

      We just disagree about “maybe, maybe not.” I don’t think there’s any maybe to it, but there’s no way to test the proposition.

      My preferred candidate for MO Senate is my former congresswoman* Rep.Vicky Hartzler, but I suspect Greitens could win if nominated, only because it’s THIS state in THIS year. I hope we never have to find out.

      The DEMS who have declared for Blunt’s seat so far are just “some dudes,” as they at RRH. The DEMs begged former guv Jay Nixon to run, but he publicly announced “no!” in July.

      * my residence was removed from her district after the last census.

    466. mnw says:

      Greitens’ successful campaign for Governor was gaffe free, as far as I can remember. He ran a good campaign, highlighting his exemplary military record.

      “Gaffes” have never been his problem. His problem is being a pervert.

      Time for someone to say, “His supporters would’ve still voted for him even if they’d known he was a pervert.” One… two… three

    467. Tina says:

      A “real Republican” is running, McMullen, who is challenging Mike Lee. I wonder if this “r” paid his presidential debts from 2016.

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/never-trumper-evan-mcmullin-desperately-trying-relevant-new-run-office/

    468. jason says:

      Hartzler is a 15-1 underdog at Predictit, anyone who thinks she can win the nomination can make good money betting on her/

      Currently Greitens is the favorite but now overwhelmingly so 37-28 over Schmitt. Jason Smih has 11% and Billy Long 9%.

      Hartzler is tied in last with Mark McCloskey.

    469. jason says:

      “NOT overwhelmingly so”.

    470. mnw says:

      Greifens will claim he was the victim of a political frame up, I’m sure– the fact that he was impeached by a state legislature with A Republican supermajority* notwithstanding.

      *just going from memory. (“You LIED again! They only had 63%! Not 66%!”)

    471. Tgca says:

      What’s with all this trashing folks about deadenders?

      If by deadenders you mean supporting someone who doesn’t have a chance, then didn’t that apply to Dole and Mac, or to any GOPer running for Gov of CA these days? Clearly, it was evident there was little to no choice they would win.

      Sometimes you just have a bad pool of candidates. It’s the it’s be peeps!

    472. jason says:

      Does anyone think he would’ve won the GOP primary if he’d talked about how “you can’t get pregnant from rape” BEFORE the primary?”

      Considering you only needed about 30% to win, more maybe yes than maybe no.

    473. Tina says:

      Wow, there is a ton of people at the Iowa Trump Rally tonight.

      Biden at 31 percent in Iowa?

    474. jason says:

      So mnw thinks Greitens could win the primary and the GE although he is a “pervert” but Akins the deadender couldn’t have gotten 30% in a R primary after the rape comment.

      I love it here.

    475. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      478. Actually McMullin has reputated the Republican Party, and is running as an independent. He will take a share of the Democratic vote,but would be surprised if he gets over 7% of the total vote. Senator Lee will win again by about 68% of the vote in Republican Utah.

      I take a McMullin candidacy in Utah as seriously as a candidacy by Bozo the Clown.

    476. Tina says:

      Is any other .Republican in Congress mentioning this?

      Natalie Harp
      @NatalieJHarp
      · 8m
      “We have more people who have died from COVID in 2021 with the vaccines, with the therapeutics…than in all of 2020! But the media is silent—they don’t talk about that!”
      Flag of United States @POTUS45 LIVE in Iowa #TrumpRally

    477. jason says:

      If by deadenders you mean supporting someone who doesn’t have a chance”

      That is not the definition, but thanks for sharing.

    478. Tgca says:

      I did not see this until today. Evidently it came out late Thursday.

      6th Circuit Court of Appeals sides with Unvaccinated Michigan students…

      Freedom of religion prevails! Yay!

      Now that we have one appellate court for the win for the unvaccinated, this is going to have to go to SCOTUS due to other conflicting circuit decisions.

      “The First Amendment, as incorporated through the 14th Am, prevents a state from ‘prohibiting the free exercise’ of religion. The 14th Amendment also guarantees equal protection under the law.”

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/victory-for-freedom-6th-circuit-court-of-appeals-sides-with-unvaccinated-michigan-students/

    479. jason says:

      I guess Biden agrees with Rand Paul that Iran with nuclear weapons is “not a threat”.

      “Biden has lifted sanctions on two Iranian entities, the Mammut Industrial group and its subsidiary Mammut Diese, involved in Iran’s missile program — sanctions that were put in place by the President Donald Trump to prevent Iran from being able to develop or use a nuclear weapon. Biden did this, just as they are believed to be developing enough nuclear fuel to build a bomb.”

    480. Tgca says:

      Dead Enders definition below:

      1.
      US
      a person who continues to support a particular cause, political candidate, etc., even when there is seemingly no chance of success.
      “the legions of dead-enders still sporting signs for the lost cause”
      2.
      a person whose situation offers no prospects for progress or improvement.
      “it’s the bleakest of cities, filled with dropouts and dead-enders”

    481. Wes says:

      Tgca’s rabbit food diet has rotted his brain.

      Connotatively for political purposes, a Deadender is a person who makes a winnable race into a sure loss.

      Dole and McCain were running in years where no Republican could win. Both lost, as would any other Republican nominated in those years. Honestly Dole and McCain probably fared better than the other Republicans who ran in the primaries would have.

      O’Donnell and Akin took winnable races and nuked them, in O’Donnell’s case, taking her entire state party down with her. Those are clear cases of Deadenders.

    482. Wes says:

      Of course Tgca thinks Romney was engaging in racism with the 47% remark, which Romney clearly directed at class rather than race. Ergo, Tg’s inability to understand what a political Deadender actually is is no surprise.

    483. jason says:

      The correct definition for deadender is the one that was established here at HHR years ago.

      If you want another definition, find another term.

    484. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes – Diet can damage people. Scurvy causes many problems including bleeding gums and tooth loss. Tgca’s diet makes him trash Reagan. It happens.

    485. mnw says:

      Greitens is leading in the GOP primary in the only poll I saw so far.

      He was victimized by the elected Soros-backed STL prosecutor, so there may be a backlash in his favor due to that.

      Imo, he’s the only GOP candidate for MO Senate who COULD lose the GE.

      I said he was a pervert. Not everyone agrees: he tied a woman (not his wife) up & MAY have photographed her without her consent– he denies the “without consent” part. “Pervert” is in the eye of the beholder. That’s my interpretation, & it may not be the general opinion among GOP voters.

      I would certainly prefer to avoid exploring the nuances of whatever he did during the GE contest.

    486. jason says:

      Yeah, I think eating a lot of tree bark could make you think Romney’s 47% comment was “racist”.

      There is really no other good explanation for such idiocy.

    487. jason says:

      I disagree with the “pervert” description.

      But I also understand the controversy is not helpful for the candidacy.

    488. jason says:

      ‘it may not be the general opinion among GOP voters.”

      But it will be the general opinion of the hypocritical MSM and thus the Dem voters.

      If a Dem tied up a woman the MSM would say it was just a private matter and nobody’s business.

    489. jason says:

      Don’t look now, but Youngkin up to 29% on Predictit.

    490. jason says:

      I once had to go without bacon for 5 days and I was definitely beginning to suffer from delusions, so I understand Tgca’s problem.

    491. mnw says:

      Many in the MO GOP think he can’t win the GE. I’m just not sure. Karl Rove said he would hand the seat to the DEMs if nominated.

      I would SOOOO like to avoid the whole mess by nominating someone else.

      The overwhelmingly GOP special impeachment session found his accuser’s accusations to be “credible.” That’s good enough for me. I want no part of him after that. He resigned 10 days into the special impeachment session, thereby avoiding his inevitable removal from office.

      Going by memory alone, then-AG Hawley seemed to be saying that there was enough there that Greitens should consider resigning. Hawley soft-peddled that, but still, it adds to my view that Greitens is poison.

    492. jason says:

      Some of those CIVIQS poll numbers really are brutal for Biden.

      8% approval among whites in Alabama.

      34% among men in PA and 34% among whites.

      27% among whites in OH. 21% in Texas. Even in CA -5% among whites.

      49% among Hispanics in FL. 46% in TX. 44% in NC.

      69% among AA’s in VA. 73% in PA. 67% in TX.

    493. mnw says:

      Greitens’ accuser, a hairdresser, never testified publicly. As far as I know, her name was never published, either.

      She also said that Greitens had forced her to perform oral sex & slapped her. Greitens denies that.

      I’m hoping public opinion among GOP primary voters may shift against him, as more people start to think about the race.

    494. jason says:

      Well, Rs are still 90% favorites to win the MO senate race at Predictit, even with Greitens as the front runner.

      Lucas Kunce is the clear favorite on the Dem side, what to we know about him?

    495. Tina says:

      But Putzaki said we had 7 cents left over from the Fourth of July.

      The Epoch Times
      @EpochTimes
      · 40m
      Food prices across the world have risen to their highest levels in a decade on the back of tightening supply conditions robust demand, according to the @FAO. https://theepochtimes.com/food-prices-hit-highest-level-in-a-decade_4040361.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=digitalsub

    496. mnw says:

      He’s an ex-Marine nobody ever heard of. A total unknown. Unless Greitens is the nominee, the DEMs won’t finance him in a hopeless race, I suspect.

      1) What Akin said was not in dispute. He looked right into the eyes of a reporter & boldly opined that “you can’t get pregnant from rape,” in the context of explaining why he was opposed to abortion in all circumstances, except to save the life of the mother.

      2) Almost everything about what Greitens did is in dispute, at least by Greitens.

      Plus, Greitens was indicted criminally by a Soros-funded STL prosecutor. The indictment was eventually dismissed by the trial judge because of prosecutorial misconduct. The MO Bar Disciplinary Committee has subsequently found that the prosecutor in question committed professional misconduct in the course of the Greitens investigation, and she will likely lose her law license as a result. The bogus prosecution of Greitens, which involved both false testimony & withholding exculpatory evidence, created a lot of anger– and sympathy for Greitens.

      Other than that, the Akin situation & the Greitens situation are completely, 100% identical. /s

    497. Cash Cow TM says:

      jason says:
      October 9, 2021 at 6:23 pm
      Is there a law that he has to live in the governor’s mansion?”
      ***************************************
      YES, THERE I A LAW THAT SAYS THAT.
      #############################################
      “mnw says:
      October 9, 2021 at 7:15 pm
      Cow

      Maybe the doors at the WV governor’s mansion are too narrow?”

      NO. WLAT SAYS THE DOORS ARE BIG ARSED, JUSTICE WIDE DOORS.

    498. Tgca says:

      496

      Don’t you have any Snapchatting to do tonight?

      Oh wait! It’s too late. All your best friends are in bed already.

    499. Tgca says:

      You guys deep throat Reagan and it’s funny to watch you freak out when people point out his controversies and flaws and balance the record with reality.

      Reagan is more myth than legend just like JFK. He did many good things and was a good president but he is not at the level of GREATNESS you try to attribute to him. There are only a few great presidents and Reagan did not achieve that status.

      Sorry! But it is what it is.

      Like it or not, JFK ranks above Reagan by most historical accounts even though I don’t think JFK was great either.

    500. Tgca says:

      502

      Did your unhealthy cholesterol and triglycerides drop 50 points?

    501. Tgca says:

      A bunch of white guys defending Romney’s 47% remark to a room of white people should go to the ghetto and ask AA what they think…but I doubt you’d care as much as Romney about what AA think.

    502. Wes says:

      I can tell you exactly what people who live in the ghetto thought about what Romney said, Tg, since I interacted with many of them at the time:

      Romney is for the rich and wants to take from the poor to give to his rich buddies. No, not even liberal newspapers and magazines, was calling him a racist back then. Insofar as people thought Romney was a racist, it was simply because the dreaded “R” was next to his name and had nothing to do with the 47% remark.

      You created that stupid, specious argument for no purpose but to be controversial. It holds no water, as your ever-evolving attempt to defend it has demonstrated.

    503. Wes says:

      As far as Reagan, you have a clear inferiority complex regarding him. I don’t know why, but that you have one is readily apparent.

    504. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I would rank Reagan as one of the greatest presidents. His presidency rejuvenated the U.S. economy, and the nation’s sense of patriotism. Prior to Reagan the country had been in a defeatist mode after Vietnam, and Carter had stumbled into the Iranian hostage crisis – which he was incapable of dealing with.

      Reagan’s aggressive foreign policy, and U.S. defense build-up, instigated the collapse of the Soviet economy (with the help of the Saudis keeping oil prices artifically low),followed several years later by the collapse of Soviet regime.

      Reagan had his faults, but his positive personality and good humor made even his opponents find him likeable. He was polite and treated everyone with respect. His presidency changed the direction of the country, primarily for the better.

    505. jason says:

      Reagan is more myth than legend just like JFK.”

      Reagan was a conservative icon. He was the most successful President in my lifetime, arguably in the 20th Century. He accomplished his goal of breaking up the Soviet Union and ending the Cold War. He was a man of great wit, charm, and incredibly persuasive. He WAS the best communicator, in my view, of ANY President.

      Like SDC says, he changed America for the better.

      The only “myths” about him are the silly non-arguments Tgca uses to trash him.

    506. jason says:

      A bunch of white guys defending Romney’s 47% remark to a room of white people should go to the ghetto and ask AA what they think…”

      Zzzzzz…. actually it was white rich liberals that came up with the “47% comment is racist” BS.

      I doubt anyone in the ghetto cared about some comment Romney made to a roomful of donors.

      And of course even if some AA’s in the ghetto thought Romney’s comment was racist, THAT makes it racist?

      Does everything the moonbats and CNN say is racist really racist?

      You should know better.

    507. jason says:

      Like it or not, JFK ranks above Reagan by most historical accounts”

      Poor Tgca is really brainwashed.

      You do realize the “historians” that rank Presidents are 99% liberal hacks, don’t you?

      They love JFK and Obama. Duhhhh.

    508. jason says:

      Pelosi forced to leave Mass at the Vatican due to hecklers.

      Biden to call it “part of the process” in 3, 2, 1…

    509. Bitterlaw says:

      Comparing JFK and Reagan insults Reagan. JFK was a disaster on foreign policy. He gets credit for his reaction to the Cuban Missile Crisis but that is like praising an arsonist for helping to put out the fire he started. JFK was so weak that Khrushchev thought he could install missiles in Cuba.

      The Berlin Wall went up on his watch. He could not get his own party to advance civil rights legislation. He pushed the nation onto the ruinous path to war in Vietnam.

      I give JFK credit for publicly setting a goal to go to the moon but he accomplished little else in his short term. His “ myth” started because he was murdered by a lunatic who acted alone.

    510. Tina says:

      I don’t see how “historians” rank jfk greater than Reagan. JFK’s term was incomplete.

      Is it that Bushie historian meecham or whatever his name is doing the ranking?

    511. Tina says:

      Were the hecklers of Piglosi, Maga Grandparents?

      Look for the fib to make arrests soon.

    512. Tgca says:

      Again you guys are behaving just like the libs. You twist everything to make Reagan great instead of a good POTUS because good is not enough for you.

      Yes, he’s NOW an icon among conservatives just as JFK is among libs but it’s more myth than legend.

      Keep telling yourself how great he is all you want. The facts don’t follow the fiction.

      If Reagan single-handedly gets credit for the things on his watch then Clinton gets credit for immense wealth and job growth under him that was by far the biggest growth ever in a presidential administration where the market nearly tripled under Clinton and where he must have also single-handedly ushered in the tech boom that thrives to this day and changed the make-up of nearly all we do in the world today…and let’s not forget that Obama must single-handedly be responsible for more than doubling the market under his admin that created great wealth in the US.

      I guess I should thank these guys for THEIR single-handed performance that outperformed all other GOP presidents and allowed me to retire earlier than most.

      Silly arguments giving complete credit to those in charge is my point here. If Reagan is GREAT than he must fall just behind Clinton and Obama in greatest too for their achievements especially Obama who single-handedly changed the direction of the nation and undermined his successor and put him out of a job where the American electorate decided to elect him via a 3rd term through Biden and his historic win by for inspiring more to vote for him than any president ever so I guess Amerika wants a return to the Obama greatness too, riiiiiiiiiight?

    513. Tgca says:

      Of course you don’t like the comparisons of JFK to Reagan, and I didn’t even get into FDR who is by far considered the most accomplished of 20th century with his cousin Teddy running close behind.

      Conservative and liberal presidents create myths under them by their sycophantic admirers.

      Anyways, I’d love to compare the hypocrisy of the right to the hypocrisy of the left but I have a life outside HHR and need to get to the store and get me some tofu before it all sells out.

      Please all get together and trash liberal presidents and talk up how GREAT Reagan was on this right-wing site that has no bias. 🙂

    514. jason says:

      Tgca, you can go ahead and give Clinton and JFK all the credit you want.

      I will credit Ronald Reagan, conservative icon, as the best President in my lifetime.

    515. jason says:

      The Babylon Bee
      @TheBabylonBee
      ·
      13h
      White House Whistleblower Claims Strangers Drag Him From Place To Place And Make Him Sign Papers And Read Words On Monitors And He Hardly Gets Any Ice Cream

    516. jason says:

      Tgca can build up FDR, JFK, Clinton and Obama as his heroes.

      Us “right wingers” will correctly name Ronald Reagan as a truly GREAT president and our hero.

      Each to his own.

    517. jason says:

      Hey Bitter, who are the Eagles losing to today or is this a bye week?

      Ma, Bitter to say I wanted to discuss football wit him in 3, 2,1…

    518. jason says:

      Please all get together and trash liberal presidents”

      Ok, will do.

    519. Gordon Allen says:

      I think the argument for Obama being Great was that he in fact has fundamentally changed America- for much the worst. Reagan’s America sadly didn’t make it much past the middle of Bush 1’s term; it was a great 8 years, but really altered fundamentally nothing lasting.
      Depends on the definition of Great; is it impact, or for the observably good?
      If the former Hitler was irrefutably Great, in that he literally changed the World as know it; there is pre WW2, and there is after WW 2, and he was a(the?) central (transformative)figure.
      Obviously, if it means for the positive, or betterment of many(even briefly) Reagan was Great, though not transformative.
      As so often, it depends.

    520. jason says:

      Tgca says:
      October 10, 2021 at 12:20 am

      502

      Did your unhealthy cholesterol and triglycerides drop 50 points?”

      Yes, but no harm done, I got it back up to normal levels within a week.

    521. jason says:

      Reagan was Great, though not transformative”

      Reagan was the definition of transformative.

    522. jason says:

      He transformed the world and he transformed America.

      I guess that still leaves out Mars and Venus.

    523. Phil says:

      Well, I went to a football game last night along with 106,000 others in a packed stadium. Saw maybe two people with masks. Take that, Fauci.

      Man, I love Texas.

    524. Phil says:

      I think Garland really over played his hand with his memo regarding parents, school boards and the FBI. Way, way, way over his skis…legally of course since it’s not a federal matter to begin with but more importantly, politically. People aren’t going to stand for this kind of authoritarianism. Throw in ethics as well with his family ties to CRT.

      The left is good at going just far enough but in this case crossed a bright red line in so many ways….

      Our AG should resign.

    525. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca says Romney was a racist and Reagan was just an actor. Not exactly the usual conservative talking points.

    526. Bitterlaw says:

      Stores can run out of tofu? I thought it was like fruitcake. It passes from person to person but nobody eats it.

    527. Tina says:


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      Stephen McIntyre
      @ClimateAudit
      ·
      11h
      so results from aspirin were WAY better than results from remsidivir which Fauci touted as a gamechanger on flimsy evidence. How many people died because Fauci and CDC failed to recommend aspirin for people at risk.
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      Lee Smith
      @LeeSmithDC
      · 18h
      Should be fun watching public health officials, press & social media ban talk of aspirin as part of COVID treatment.

      https://jpost.com/health-and-wellness/aspirin-lowers-risk-of-covid-new-findings-support-preliminary-israeli-trial-681127

    528. Tina says:

      We need to look into whether the “horse medicine” really worked here, or was it something else. Be a real shame if Fraudci lied about ivermectin.

      Stephen McIntyre
      @ClimateAudit
      ·
      Oct 8
      COVID has been almost extinguished in Delhi. Reported positivity rate of 0.06%. I wish that Canadian or US public health authorities would check it out so that we could know whether data from Delhi is fake or whether they are on to something.
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    529. jason says:

      Tgca says Romney was a racist and Reagan was just an actor. Not exactly the usual conservative talking points”

      He says we are a bunch of white conservatives here trashing liberal Presidents.

      He thinks we consider Reagan more accomplished and a better President than Clinton and Obama.

      You have to admit he is one perspicacious bastard.

    530. Bitterlaw says:

      I do not support mask mandates or vaccine mandates or vaccine passports. My question is whether we are better off with vaccines being developed or would we be better off if they had never been developed?

    531. Tina says:

      Not to mention that the “insurrection” was a sheot show starring the Fib and intelligent agencies. See the video we’re 8 individuals, who were all dressed in black, break in to the capitol. No interr3st by the Fib to arrest any of them.

      Julie Kelly
      @julie_kelly2
      ·
      13m
      Maggie Halberman now admitting intensity around January 6 committee is dying. Agrees American people don’t view January 6 the same way Beltway aristocracy does.

    532. Tina says:

      Vaccines are fine, when fully approved by the fda.

      These vaccines are not approved. Nobody can tell you the health risks, if any, with any great certainty.

      There are legit questions as whether they are effective after six months. (See Pfizer’s report of a 44% efficacy rate after six months, basically not effective at al.). Notice how The Gubment is no longer tracking breakthroughs.

      With that said, we need to look into therapeutics. Why is India successful (at least in one part of the country). Was it ivermectin? Something else? What about the recent study on aspirin?

    533. jason says:

      I love it when idiots like Tgca say Reagan was just an actor.

      Just an actor that was the most influential conservative of the 20th century, two term governor of California, two term President of the United States. Just an actor who bankrupted and broke up the Soviet Union, brought down the Iron Curtain and ended the Cold War. Just an actor that transformed American politics to the extent a future Democratic president was forced to say “the era of big government is over’.

      Can we get another “just an actor” please.

    534. Gordon Allen says:

      I believe “transformative” in historic terms generally means passing on down past your public service. Reagans absolutely domestically didn’t get past Bush’s “thousand points of light”, and his and Clinton’s globalism.
      LBJ ‘s Great Society” has lasted and morphed further in the wrong direction, now 60 years on. That sadly, was transformative for America.
      Please read more carefully. This is not to say LBJ was as great a President in office as Reagan. Lord have mercy he wasn’t.
      But like FDR (who I think poorly of, even in international terms) and his New Deal, which morphed into the Great Society, and then into Obama’s/Bidens Marxist/Socialism, sadly those have lasted and like Cancer have spread, and gotten more malignant, with time. Reagan was a brief shining moment on the hill, now lost.
      This is why I agree with you that moderate republicans have to go, because by definition they won’t be crusaders to REVERSE course, but merely slow the left’s advance marginally.
      I also don’t blame Reagan completely personally, as he saddled himself with one of those “moderates” as VP ( on him), but also had the muddled Republican establishment in Congress(Bob Michael types), who were happy to see the back of him. They’re still there(the types if not the individuals)

    535. jason says:

      My question is whether we are better off with vaccines being developed or would we be better off if they had never been developed?’

      From a medical standpoint I am no longer that sure. The data on natural immunity being much better than the vaccine is pretty compelling. It might be that if we had just vaccinated the elderly and those with co-morbidities and allowed the rest of the population to get a 99.99% survivable disease and build up natural immunity we would have been better off.

      From a political standpoint without the vaccine the country might have been shutdown for years with unimaginable consequences to the economy and the economic system.

      Although the vaccine is used for political purposes to justify the nanny state and more restrictions on free speech and individual liberties, without it I think it would be even worse.

    536. Tina says:

      Remove all illegals and complete the border wall.

      Eliminate the departments of energy and education. Eliminate the Fib and reform the “intelligence agencies” so that they are not spying on Tucker Carlson and others. Fire fat slob Millie Vanilli and the tv generals.

      Eliminate vote by mail. Voter ids in all states, and reform the Department of “justice.l”

      Ryan James Girdusky
      @RyanGirdusky
      · 16m
      Imagine it’s January 2025, Republicans control the Presidency, House, and 60 Senate seats (not out of the realm of possibility)… what 3 things should they be doing to create a permanent governing majority?

    537. jason says:

      I believe “transformative” in historic terms generally means passing on down past your public service.”

      I believe Reagan did that domestically too.

      He changed the discourse from how big government should be (great society) to how small should it be (limited government). That is a massive shift.

      Even the big government proponents like Obama and now Biden still have to deal with that, neither are able to fully implement their agenda. For that you can thank Ronald Reagan. He planted the seeds of resistance against unlimited government power.

    538. jason says:

      Does anyone think Clinton would have said the ‘era of big government is over” if not for Ronald Reagan?

      I rest my case.

    539. jason says:

      what 3 things should they be doing to create a permanent governing majority?”

      The first thing I would do is give up on the idea of a “permanent governing majority”.

      Concentrate on doing what you can in the short term hoping that it will translate into long lasting changes.

    540. jason says:

      This is why I agree with you that moderate republicans have to go, because by definition they won’t be crusaders to REVERSE course, but merely slow the left’s advance marginally.”

      I never said “moderate Rs have to go” and I don’t think any amount of crusading is going to reverse course.

      I am on record as stating socialism is inevitable barring a huge change in the content of the educational system (actually getting worse, not better).

    541. mnw says:

      549 Tina

      Of all the issues polled, Biden does WORST OF ALL on “Immigration/Border”– he’s like 29% approve on that.

      That issue is where the 2022 election jackpot is for the GOP, if they go for it.

      On another topic:

      Revisiting MO redistricting for a moment: I still feel that the MO GOP won’t go after the AA congressman (Cleaver) in KC. Not budging one inch on that. prediction. However, if the MO GOP DOES decide to go that route, 2022 would certainly be the best opportunity to try it.

    542. mnw says:

      All of the probable DEM losses in the House in 2022 are going to be among so-called DEM moderates, not Squad types.

      That means after 2022, the Progressive Caucus may well have a majority among House DEMs. The PC has appx 90 members right now, I believe.

    543. Wes says:

      Anyways, I’d love to compare the hypocrisy of the right to the hypocrisy of the left but I have a life outside HHR and need to get to the store and get me some tofu before it all sells out.

      So, Tgca seriously thinks tofu is going to sell out but claims to have a life?

      All right…

    544. jason says:

      Yes moderates are an endangered species on both sides of the aisle.

      I don’t see that as a positive.

      Bernie Sanders is dictating policy among Senate Dems, and he is not even a Democrat.

      Why is a guy like Tester from Montana voting with Sanders, a communist from Vermont? He is afraid not to.

      In the past the radical Dems did not control things. Now they do.

      So when the Dems get into power like now the radicals get to run the show.

    545. Tina says:

      Mnw, good point. But many of them in the senate are open border whores.

    546. Bitterlaw says:

      In New Jersey, Gov. Murphy and allies are campaigning against Trump and the Texas abortion law. Still waiting for Gov. Murphy to campaign on anything positive HE did.

    547. Wes says:

      It’s New Jersey, Bitter. Has any politician in that state ever done anything positive?

    548. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes – Set aside your hatred for a minute and consider what he did without controlling either legislative chamber.

      Cap on property tax increases. Murphy let it lapse.

      Increased charter schools against savage opposition from NJEA.

      Reform of union pensions.

    549. Bitterlaw says:

      561 was about Christie.

    550. Wes says:

      Then like literally every other politician in New Jersey history, Christie became involved in scandal and is now a national joke, Bitter.

    551. Wes says:

      New Jersey is a joke of a state that shouldn’t even exist, and honestly I hope Murphy wins because the Sewer State deserves to continue to be the national laughing stock it’s been for decades.

      Sewer Staters don’t deserve or want competent governance. They deserve Murphy, and Murphy deserves them.

    552. Bitterlaw says:

      Good to see Wes could not rebut the accomplishments. Sad he bought into the GW Bridge controversy that was never proven or prosecuted against Christie.

    553. Bitterlaw says:

      Other than giving slaveowners 2 more Senators and an extra Rep, why did we need 2 Carolinas? They should have been combined when the Constitution was adopted.

    554. Wes says:

      Forgive me for not caring what accomplishments a Governor who obliterated his own formerly high approval ratings and ensured the election of a sleazy piece of work like Murphy, who has overturned most, if not all, of what Christie did, had, Bitter.

      You think a giant cesspool is awesome because the people don’t have those vile Southern accents. I’m under no obligation to agree.

    555. jason says:

      Christie is a fat unprincipled lowlife scumbag.

      The bridge issue was BS.

      Both can be true.

    556. Wes says:

      Hey, at least none of the four REPUBLICAN Senators elected from the Carolinas are corrupt child molesters, Bitter.

      New Jersey can’t claim that with half as many Senators.

    557. Tgca says:

      556. Wes

      I know you’re from the south and resent the great intellect of the people from the northeast states like NY and NJ with your southern inferiority complex but you can’t be that dumb that you don’t know sarcastic humor when you see it.

    558. Wes says:

      That’s the thing, Bitter. You’d rather have a corrupt child rapist representing you in Washington than a guy with a Southern accent.

      I take the opposite view.

    559. jason says:

      I agree with wes.

      Christie did nothing for New Jersey except confirm that everyone is out for themselves and nobody gives a crap about the state.

    560. jason says:

      Christie sold out to Obama.

      Then he sold out to Trump.

      Then he sold out to the Never Trumpers.

      Luckily now he is a sleazebag who brings no value to anyone he sells out to next.

    561. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzz. It is better than North Carolina to me because it has better beaches, beautiful suburbs, like Ridgewood, Franklin Lakes, Mountain Lakes, and Haddonfield. It is also close to cities worth visiting (New York and Philadelphia) as opposed to sleepy boring Raleigh and Charlotte.

    562. Wes says:

      So, to recap, Bitterlaw wants the Carolinas combined into one state. That would take the Senate from the current 48D-50R-2I split to 48D-48R-2I. Thus, rather than having to rely on Kamala to break ties, Schumer would have outright control of the chamber.

      Good one, Bitter. Mikey would be proud.

    563. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzz I don’t live in New Jersey and do not intend to move to New Jersey so Senator Menendez does not and would not represent me.

    564. Wes says:

      States represented by corrupt child rapists are better to you than states not represented by corrupt child rapists.

      All right, Bitter.

      You’ve made your point.

    565. Bitterlaw says:

      Nice try, Wes. I wanted the Carolinas combined in 1789. Maybe the traitors in South Carolina could have been shut down by the those in the northern part of the state before starting the Civil War. Too late now.

    566. Wes says:

      You literally said you wanted the Carolinas combined into a single state, Bitter. Barring a West Virginia situation, that would mean both states would be one state today. In other words, Schumer would have an actual majority rather than a nominal one.

      You said it. I didn’t.

    567. Bitterlaw says:

      No. You have made a point that I never made and then claimed I made it. Why do you need me to like where you live?

    568. Wes says:

      Don’t try to backpedal now. You clearly advocated a situation that would deprive the GOP of two Senators.

    569. Wes says:

      I don’t care if you like where I live, Bitter. You have a seething hatred of the South. That’s your right. It’s my right to throw the sleaze in a state you can’t adulate enough in your face because of it.

    570. Tgca says:

      Gordy is right? Reagan did not have an overarching lasting impact on the US and only showed a momentary sneak peak at what could’ve been before the country continued its march along slowly embracing socialism but to be fair much of this started before Reagan and socialism made great progress with Obama and now Biden.

      Thanks in part to Ted Kennedy pushing poor immigration in the 60s to create a constant gubbermint depending electorate for Dems to a large part that presidents from Reagan on did not object to, we have a large contingent of both legal and illegals and their supporters who believe Amerika owes them a better life at the expense of our original “melting pot” society that welcomed all willing to integrate into our society and embrace the American dream.

      Rich nations get fat and lazy and we are on that course now because the radical left, though they may not win every election, unless something dramatically shifts, will win the war as we become more like socialistic Europe instead of a nation where the concept of freedom prevailed for nearly 200 years.

    571. Bitterlaw says:

      I referred to combining the states in 1789. I also referred to slaveowners gaining 2 Senators and 1 rep because they were 2 states then.

    572. Wes says:

      They would still be one state if they’d combined in 1789, Bitter. 4-2=2. That’s simple math. You called for reducing the GOP Senate conference by 2 Senators.

      Own it.

    573. Bitterlaw says:

      Your premise is based on US history turning out exactly the same way over the last 232 years. If you want to look at every Senate vote over that period of time, go for it.

      Want to compromise and combine Oregon and Washington?

    574. Tgca says:

      580

      HA! HA! HA! HA!
      HA! HA! HA!

      The irony meter explodes as Bitter accuses someone of misinterpreting him.

      In 285 I said:

      I think Reagan was charming and likable and used his acting skills to woo folks…

      to illustrate how Reagan diffused certain situations and used that to his advantage to engage others to his ideas in hopes of winning them over to his political positions.

      Bitter interprets that as me dismissing Reagan as just an actor in 288 and now whines that my good friend Wes is lying about him.

      Fotha Muckin’ HYPOCRITE!!!

      I’ll be the 1st to defend Reagan as a good POTUS. I just would not put him in “GREAT” status which I think only fits like 4 or so presidents.

      I do not have a problem with Jadon saying Reagan is the greatest POTUS in his life time as that may be true, and I totally respect this old obese walking heart attack waiting to happen cholesterol through the ceiling swine-slaughtering shameless grease and fat and salt loving mental midget wet back.

      See! We can disagree and still respect diversity here at HHR.

    575. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      This was Romney’s quote:

      “there are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what” because they are “dependent upon government … believe that they are victims … believe the government has a responsibility to care for them … these are people who pay no income tax.”

      The comment of course was total nonsense. A lot of the 47% were senior citizens on social security and pensions, or individuals working with low incomes and/or a large amount of deductions. The vast majority of the 47% were paying other forms of taxes.

      There is no racial group mentioned in the quote. Romney was an equal opportunity offender — what he was doing was showing himself to be a deeply out of touch politically.

      Romney was often referred to as a “vulture capitalist” because of his business practices. Romney’s quote often seen as a reflection of his insensitivity to working class people, and the fact he was politically inept.

    576. Tgca says:

      By the way, my good friend Jadon is hardest hit and gonna be sooooo jealous.

      I got my lab results back and my cholesterol and all are in very good healthy ranges…and my glucose is normal. Nothing out of whack or abnormal and good cholesterol is good and bad cholesterol and triglycerides even went down as well.

      In fact, the one thing that came up was…now get this Bishes…my ketones had risen ever so slightly so the medical advice was to make sure I’m getting ENOUGH carbs in my diet.

      Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

      I guess I should drink a gallon of organic maple syrup in my water tonight too to help lower those ketones, eh Jadon!

      Actually, it’s probably more likely than not that because I fasted before the blood tests and combined with taking a test in the early morning when I have not hydrated enough, ketones can go up slightly due to fasting and dehydration but it’s not an issue since it’s not a significant spike.

      By the way, my BUN ratio was good too but folks have always said I had good buns.

    577. jason says:

      I don’t agree that Romney’s comment was “nonsense”.

      I think it was completely factual.

      And of course “senior citizens on SS” are dependent of government.

      Finally, Romney said INCOME TAXES, so he didn’t say they paid no taxes.

      I don’t like Romney, but the attacks on the 47% comment are BS.

    578. jason says:

      Tgca is always undergoing tests and procedures and surgeries while subsisting on a sugar and chemical laden fake food diet but thinks he is healthier than the rest of us.

      Zzzzzzz……

    579. jason says:

      Bitter interprets that as me dismissing Reagan as just an actor in 288″

      He “interprets” it correctly.

      You repeatedly trash and disparage Reagan’s great success as something to do with the fact he was an actor.

      99% of what you say about Reagan are abject lies. The other 1% is suspicious.

    580. Tgca says:

      588

      Our news fascist, SDC, who runs in the gay Mecca circles and believes it’s ok to discriminate against people who may or may not have health conditions and who would whine like a little girl if his crude and lascivious STD spreading buddies were asked to prove they didn’t have HIV to protect the general public, is now making excuses for Romney again.

      In a meeting where no one was expected to hear his words others than those that think just like him we’re supposed to believe Romney had no idea that his remarks come across as racist? REALLY!

      Ha! I’ve lived long enough and know that both sides like to throw out those “nod and wink” remarks to people like them when they think no one is listening but fortunately, many who got wind if this know otherwise.

    581. Tgca says:

      592

      Gross lies as usual. You sitting on your Reagan dildo as you perpetuates these untruths?

      You’re just annoyed because I won’t accept your view of Reagan as GREAT. It’s not good enough to be a good president, he has to be GREAT. Well, as with most Americans, I don’t see Reagan as a GREAT president.

      You have serious grade inflation on presidents evidently.

      You also claim GWB was a good president so I’m not surprised you grade Reagan as GREAT.

    582. Tgca says:

      592

      So if Bitter’s interpretations of me are correct, his interpretations of you must also be correct, riiiight?

      If he distorts what you say, and you claim it’s untrue, then it’s quite rational to believe he distorts what I say and claim it’s untrue.

    583. Tgca says:

      Ok. I’ll let you guys get back to fighting the Civil War and Jadon venting over my superb lab tests over his sickly results which I take a few times a year not because I have an issue but because I’ve always monitored them at least once or twice a year as part of good health maintenance and getting insurance reductions to show beneficial results.

    584. Wes says:

      Considering literally only one person–you–has ever attacked Romney’s remarks as racist, Tg, yes, it’s quite clear Romney wasn’t talking about race. You alone created that dog whistle. Even the liberal media at the time didn’t say Romney was making a racist comment. They specifically portrayed the speech as SDC did above.

      You know, Tg, come to think of it, you’re the only person who’s made any kinds of racist slights about what Romney said.

      Using deductive logic, I have to assume you are in fact a racist.

      Own your racism.

    585. mnw says:

      Let’s muse about inflation:

      1) It’s here, & it’s going to get a lot worse. The SecTreas doesn’t mention “transitory” any more. He concedes it’s going to continue through the end of 2022 (which probably means a lot longer than that).

      2) Wage gains are here and they’re certainly real, but they’re not keeping up with inflation. People love higher wages, and it takes a while for folks to realize they’re not even treading water.

      3) Our govt, & the ones in Europe, LIKE inflation, because it helps them manage unprecedented levels of national debt. Inflation is a secret tax, disproportionately affecting the poor & the retired (lots of overlap between those 2 groups!). Upper income families don’t feel any inflation pain– investments can be adjusted to deal with inflation. Inflation presents an opportunity for investors, in fact.

      So what does the coming of inflation mean politically? I don’t honestly know.

      At first, with wages going up too, it may mean nothing.

      What inflation MAY do, in the 13 months prior to the 2022 elections, is create a lot of free floating economic ANXIETY. I suspect such anxiety, aka FEAR, won’t benefit the party in power.

      I’m afraid my thoughts are just of glimpses into the obvious– I don’t know what else inflation will bring.

    586. Cash Cow TM says:

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    587. mnw says:

      598 correction:

      I know the SecTreas is a woman. I was thinking of the fed chairman when I said “he.” Anyway, they both say the same thing.

    588. Cash Cow TM says:

      Reagan was the best president in my lifetime.

      Walt said in HIS lifetime, he really like George Washington…

      …And Alexander the Great.

    589. Tgca says:

      597

      A white person from the south calling a minority who grew up in extreme poverty a racist is a laugh and the irony in that is astounding.

      I have seen this often in my life, people will go to great extremes to protect those similar to them so they are not perceived as such themselves.

      I’m sure thinking Romney’s remarks are racist hits a little to close to home for Wes…and why he protests so much,

    590. Wes says:

      I didn’t say a word about your race, Tg. You brought up mine as a way to obviate what I said. You’re the ONLY person bringing up race on here.

      That makes YOU the racist.

      I’m not sorry if I offend you.

    591. Wes says:

      Tgca will now begin blubbering and contorting himself into positions that would make a Lovecraftian monster blush because I called him out on his racism.

    592. Tgca says:

      Often both in my career and personal adult life, I would come across, mainly middle to upper class white folks, men and women, who would make their “non so called racist” comments about minorities not knowing my ethnicity or child-rearing situation thinking I agreed with them. These comments usually consists of not so blatant commentary but of the line “these people, those kind, THEM” and usually pertained to situations of “how they lived, where they lived, what they were like, their behaviir”…AND oh so often about the gubbermint benefits they received.

      I recall, in the 90s in the Financial District of San Francisco, a car with AA passed by with loud rap music on my way to lunch, and a rather robust middle-aged Italian male co-worker in senior management commenting to me that while the rest of us have to work these people drive around all day blasting music from their car. He was disgusted by this act of AA.

      I also have an educated white female acquaintance who often prefaced she was not prejudiced but always referred to AA or Latinos as “them” and why she didn’t understand “their kind” always did this or that….then to add insult to injury would tell me you’re not like that and you grew up just like “them.”

      I’ve also come across white trash on welfare complaining about minorities on welfare, including people in my family.

      So pardon me if I see these comments differently then some of you, as many people I know see them the same way. I do recall some middle-class AA folks at work being offended by Romney’s comments, and that was in Florida so please stop saying it was all manufactured by the media.

      Yes, the MSM ran with it to tear Romney down politically, and I get that but just ask yourself why Romney chose to say that to a friendly audience of folks in a closed door meeting and not in a public forum?

      As a man in politics for years, he should have known better and that is why I believe even more so he knew making that comment to that audience was in very poor choice but did so anyways. Maybe he thought it was a way to get their trust or bind with them. I dunno but I believe he knew very well that was offensive comment.

      You can preach all day that it’s not offensive to anyone in particular but I can tell you, I know minorities who despised him for that comment so perhaps you should consider how it came across to others, especially when often many here whine about how the MSM perceives conservatives.

    593. jason says:

      Zzzzzz… now Tgca is an “oppressed minority” here?

      Let me be the first to call it BS.

      Romney’s comment wasn’t racist TO ANYBODY.

      People can victimize themselves any way they want.

      But it doesn’t make it racist.

      The people who viewed it as “racist” weren’t are partisans looking for excuses for opposing him.

      I am no fan of Romney, but I will call wrong as wrong when I see it.

      And Tgca playing the “minority card” here is the biggest crock of crap.

    594. Wes says:

      Oh, my f ucking God!

      Can you be any more of a whiny, self-victimizing little bitch, Tgca?

      You are a racist asswipe who tries to use things people may or may not have done decades ago to justify his racism.

      No one on here has mentioned race or attacked another poster because of race. No one but you, that is. You’re a whiny little motherf ucking racist projecting his racism onto others.

      No one’s buying your self-victimization, bitch, so do yourself a favor and try to sell it to some liberal virtue signalers who think they’ll actually get some kind of points by pretending to care about you and your woe-is-me backstory. You’re not earning any sympathy here with the blubbering victim routine you try to use as justification for your racism.

      You’re not the only person to have a bad childhood on here. You are the only person on here to use it to pontificate about how other people are racists even though they’re not.

      Honestly go f uck yourself, bitch. You may think you can use any slights other people made against you to declare others something they’re not, but that just makes you a racist, entitled bitch.

      I for one am tired of it, and I’m not sorry if I offend you by calling you out and telling you to shut the f uck up about it, bitch.

    595. jason says:

      That makes YOU the racist.”

      You know someone is full of it when they start calling everyone racist.

      Somehow they think childish st-ff like that bolsters their argument.

      It just makes Tgca look more like an ass.

    596. jason says:

      Can you be any more of a whiny, self-victimizing little bitch, Tgca?”

      No.

    597. jason says:

      Tgca, when caught making false statements “Reagan was only a good communicator because he was an actor” and “Romney is a racist” then feels compelled to write dozens of long winded whiny posts while digging a deeper hole.

      To do that he keeps twisting himself more and more into a pretzel while trying to portray himself as some kind of victim with a “different” perspective.

      Many of us here have overcome challenging childhoods and adverse circumstances.

      You know what, it doesn’t give me any special privilege to call Romney’s comments “racist”.

    598. jason says:

      “so pardon me if I see these comments differently then some of you”

      No, no free lunch.

      GFY.

    599. Tina says:

      And the gop-e ain’t doing nuffin to tell the public the bad in it.

      CBS News
      @CBSNews
      · 7h
      What’s in Democrats’ Build Back Better plan? A lot of Americans don’t know – CBS News poll https://cbsn.ws/3AzLQLu

    600. Tgca says:

      Hey Wes

      I think it’s awfully rich of you to accuse someone of racism here with no facts, especially given accusations of your background here.

      As a southern man who has been accused numerous times of taking advantage of emotionally abused women for your own needs, that would probably get you put on a watch list in most communities, if these accusations are true.

      Emotional abuse causes impaired judgment of people and often forces them into very bad choices and can lead to many serious mental disorders including suicide so if anyone uses that for their personal gratification, in my book, that makes them a very low life and it is little different than the person who date rapes or abuses another that passes out from drugs or alcohol.

      Generally, emotionally damaged people are deemed as having a level of psychological illness, and if someone is taking advantage of that for their personal being, then the local authorities should be alerted so they can ensure the protection of those in the community just like when authorities become aware of potential racists, pedophiles, and other extreme behaviors of those in their community to be on the look out for.

      So before you accuse someone of racism, look at the accusations against yourself, and ask if it’s fair to accuse some of racism without any facts to justify it if you’ve been similarly accused of a heinous behavior.

    601. Wes says:

      Hey, Tg, when you start howling about racism while demeaning others for their race, guess what that makes you.

      That’s right: a racist.

      Obviously I hit a little too close to home by calling you out for what you are.

    602. mnw says:

      Tina

      McCarthy should set a regular weekly “Build Back Better B******t Hour” press event, & highlight just ONE awful thing in that bill each week.

      That’s what Newt likely would’ve done.

      Start with free community college for illegal aliens.

    603. Tina says:

      Saw is trying to blame weather on the cancellations, not walk out by employees

      Ted Cruz
      @tedcruz
      · 18m
      Joe Biden’s illegal vaccine mandate at work!

      Suddenly, we’re short on pilots & air traffic controllers.

      #ThanksJoe https://cnbc.com/2021/10/10/southwest-airlines-cancels-1000-more-flights-as-disruptions-mount.html

    604. Tina says:

      Mnw, the leadership is terrible. They want it to pass, so that they can take majority control (no guarantee).

      Then when in office,they will beotch that they cannot repeal it.

      It’s the same old same old.

    605. Tgca says:

      Jadon

      Nowhere did I say Reagan was “only” an actor. That’s conjuring by Bitter and you’re buying into his MO where he draws conclusions from others statements which are not meant to be. He does it to you quite often as well and you argue with him for hours on it but in this case because it supports your view, you ignore Bitter’s MO.

      Please show the words that I say Reagan was just an actor. I have said over and over he’s a good president and used the fact that he used his acting skills to positively try and influence people.

      I already posted my post from 285 and that not what it says.

      If you’re going to play the Bitter distortion game because it supports your position then you deserve when he does it to you in the future as well.

      Why you support someone with no credibility on what others post now is beyond me.

      If you disagree with my view, then why not just say I think Reagan is great and you do not so that’s that and GFY?

    606. Phil says:

      Just ordered my F Joe Biden coffee mug.

    607. Tgca says:

      You provided not one iota evidence of my racism while I’ve provided you some examples of experiences of myself and others why we don’t believe Romney was totally innocent in his comments which you fail to acknowledge.

      I notice you ignore the accusations against you I brought up.

      Afraid to have a discussion on that Wes?

      Ate those accusations true? Have you taken advantage of emotionally abused young women? What have you done to them? How has that impacted them?

      Oh wait! Don’t answer that. Someone from the NC state licensing bureau might be monitoring this site and take away your license.

      I guess if others are to believe your accusations of me then I must give credence to those accusations of you.

    608. Wes says:

      Really?

      Your continually calling me out as a white guy who was trying to defend someone who looked like him wasn’t evidence enough?

      You’re honestly reaching, Tg.

      I finally got tired of your projecting your racism onto others, Tg.

      I’m not sorry for that or for finally going off on you.

    609. Tina says:

      This will only get worse.

      Buzz Patterson
      @BuzzPatterson
      ·
      4h
      Southwest Airlines crews are walking out and so are FAA air traffic controllers. This is just the beginning.

    610. jason says:

      Nowhere did I say Reagan was “only” an actor.”

      You have continuously used the “Reagan is an actor” BS to trash, belittle, and disparage him, and you have lied continually about his record and accomplishments. Everything you say about him is based on falsehoods.

      So yeah, Bitter’s comment was on the money.

      I have defended you here when I thought you were wronged. On Reagan, there is no distortion whatsoever.

      On Romney, you are lying through your teeth and then using some BS narrative about how you are some sort of oppressed minority to justify your lies.

    611. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Bitter must be enjoying watching a cat fight from the sidelines, instead of being a part of it.

    612. Wes says:

      DCXXV

    613. Bitterlaw says:

      SDC – I do appreciate the time off. Tgca accuses people of racism and reminds people constantly of his ethnicity /sexuality to be a victim. He accuses me of white privilege. He’s finally getting called on it.

    614. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @tedcruz
      Joe Biden’s illegal vaccine mandate at work! Suddenly, we’re short on pilots & air traffic controllers.

    615. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Other ferry routes in the region were also operating with fewer vessels due to crew shortages, resulting in dozens of canceled sailings. On Friday, Washington State Ferries canceled 150 sailings.

      “That is pretty unprecedented,” State Ferries spokesperson Ian Sterling said Friday evening.”

      A total of 28 workers called in sick Friday, which Sterling said is not unusual. He said the challenge is that the system has no “bench” of subs.”

    616. Tgca says:

      626

      Getting called a racist by someone accused of taking advantage of emotionally damaged women is not something that overly concerns me. It’s like being called a heinous criminal for jaywalking by a rapist.

      If what people accuse Wes of is true, he should be ostracized by the community because those accusations are vile and disgusting and only lowlife people do that.

      Wes also calls Bitter a racist bigot as well frequently and goes all WESCON 1 when others disagree with him.

    617. jason says:

      If you disagree with my view, then why not just say I think Reagan is great and you do not so that’s that and GFY?”

      Feel free to hate Reagan all you want. Say you hated his role in Bedtime for Bonzo and you have hated him ever since.

      I can respect that.

      It is when you make up a bunch of bogus reasons and lies to trash him that I have a problem.

      You have consistently tried to make Reagan out to have been a wild eyed Communist in his youth to give some kind of equivalency to Trump never having been a conservative when in fact you know the Dem party Reagan belonged to was very different from today and that Reagan was a Republican and influential conservative decades before he became President.

      You have consistently misrepresented Reagan’s position on trade to try to give some kind of equivalency with Trump. There is no equivalency, Reagan defended free trade and free markets for 50 years, Trump opposed both for 50 years. The fact there were some limited tariffs during Reagan’s administration does not change that.

      You have consistently lied about Reagan’s fiscal conservatism. Reagan was a fiscal conservative, Trump is not. Nothing that happened in Reagan’s administration changes the fact Reagan was for fiscal conservatism and smaller government. The realities of governing might not have allowed him to completely implement his vision, but it doesn’t change the man.

      You have consistently implied that Reagan’s personality, great wit, affability, and power of persuasion were because he was an actor. Wrong. Reagan was a genuinely nice guy, nothing fake about it.

      You have consistently tried to diminish Reagan’s role in taking on the Soviet Union, forcing it into an arms race it couldn’t afford, and thus breaking it up and bringing down the Iron Curtain and ending the Cold War. Reagan’s policies were instrumental in getting Gorbachev to realize time was up. Reagan made a huge MORAL case against communism, it was not just about arms and ideology.

      So again feel free to say Reagan was the worst President in history, I don’t care. You don’t have to say why.

      But if you do want to say why, then don’t make up a bunch of lies.

      No free lunch.

    618. Wes says:

      I don’t know if I’ve ever called Bitter a racist, Tg. Your racist feelings are in your posts for all of us to see. You just didn’t like it when I finally got tired of it and called you out.

    619. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzz Wes said I am bigoted against Southerners. He did not call me a racist. Tgca is the one calling everybody a racist.

    620. Tgca says:

      626

      Bitter does act like he has white privilege in his own comments and I’m not the only one here accusing him of that but he fails to mention that and his perceived wokeness by many here.

      He lives in a community where the wokesters are bred and he’s admitted one of his own children is a lefty but excuses it away as intelligent independent thinking which is what I’m sure most of Antifa and BLM extremists believe of their own ideas as well.

      Bitter has no concept of what many minorities had to deal with by people like him but there’s a reason that CRT and other stoopid ideas have gained such ground in this day and age and gone way too far, and it’s because people like Bitter fail to accept what people like him brought onto others so finally people are fighting back on these injustices.

      But Bitter knows what minorities experience because he lives 6 miles from Philly and drives into the white business areas of Philly with lots of police presence.

    621. jason says:

      And by the way let’s dispel this other myth that somehow Tgca is a downtrodden minority who has “different insight” into whether what Romney said was racist or not.

      BS.

      Tgca has probably not been poor in decades any more than I have and I can assure you he wasn’t “offended” by Romney’s comments, what a crock.

      Tgca is not the only one here that may have grown up disadvantaged, and he is not entitled to any “special” opinions because of it.

    622. Tgca says:

      632

      So Bitter thinks if you’re bigoted it doesn’t mean you’re a bigot.

      Good to know. In Bitters world I guess if you:

      – rape someone, you’re not a rapist.

      – steal from others, you’re not a thief.

      – murder people, you’re not a murderer.

      Makes sense to me since Bitter acts like he’s white privileged and embraces woke culture but he’s neither white privileged or woke.

      Ok. Got it!

    623. Wes says:

      By the way, Tg, I restrained myself considerably for days till you finally started presenting yourself as a victim and saying no one agrees with you because we’re a bunch of white people who want to defend someone who looks like us.

      That was the final straw. You’re a racist who tried to project his racism onto others. You got the response you deserved. No attempt at sophistry on your part is going to change reality.

    624. Bitterlaw says:

      If they catch these scum 10 seconds before they die and let them know their secret is exposed, it is worth it.

      https://www.the-sun.com/news/3827929/nazi-pensioners-ww2-concentration-camp-murder-prisoners/

    625. jason says:

      Tgca should apologize for calling people racists because he doesn’t agree with them.

      It is over the top.

      I have had differences with wes about the Civil War, slavery, Lincoln, etc. I never said he was a racist.

    626. Tgca says:

      634

      In Jadon’s world you can’t be offended by something that you’re no longer impacted by.

      Good to know.

      I’ll tell that to those AA and Latinos that their experiences and past injustices no longer matter because they’ve achieved a level of success.

      I’ll also tell that to the women over 50 that had to deal with decades of inappropriate work environment that they need to get over it because it’s all in the past.

      The point of pointing out Romney’s comment is not because it harms those that have moved beyond it but because it continues to perpetuate attacks on people who still may experience it and why some feel the need to stand up to it.

      I gave examples of minorities I knew from work and my area offended by it. I know one Jamaican Latin guy that could not stand Romney because he thought he wreaked of racism and privilege and he is normally not political at all.

      But these people don’t matter here and if they did get offended they just must be left wing loons.

      Yeah! That’s a great way to grow the conservative base and GOP.

    627. Tgca says:

      636

      Too bad you did not restrain yourself from taking advantage of emotionally damaged women too per the accusations by your friends here.

      I would think being called a racist is a lot less worse but it appears you’re trying to sweep those accusations under the rug.

      You call Bitter a bigot all the time so I don’t see how you’re all of a sudden upset when someone calls you on your hypocrisy.

    628. Wes says:

      You know, arguing what Romney said was inappropriate is justified. It clearly hurt his chances against Obama. Nothing about it was racist though. Elitist? Yes. Out of touch? Definitely. Racist? Not at all.

      Once again, the media didn’t characterize it as racist, and no Obama supporter I know ever called it that. The criticism was universally about how Romney was a rich elite talking down to people in lower income groups.

      Trying to rewrite it as a racist remark when it clearly was not does absolutely nothing to address any legitimate deleterious effects it had on people Republicans might want to reach out to.

    629. Wes says:

      I do call Bitter a bigot for his bigotry against people from the South. I’m not going to deny that. I also call you out for your overt racism.

    630. Tgca says:

      638

      Jadon routinely insults people and calls them all kinds of derogatory vile names because he disagrees with them and then preaches it’s over the top when another poster opines what they believe another here?

      People also try to get others banned here because they don’t like what they say.

      Where was Jadon when certain posters here made vile homophobic comments? Did he say that was over the top…oh, and Wes was one of those posters telling me to go screw one of my teen boys or something to that effect, as were similar posts over the years by MD, Author, and at least one other.

      So sorry if I don’t subscribe to the hypocrisy.

    631. Bitterlaw says:

      Finally. What people like me did to minorities? What people like me did to him? There is the inner-victim loved and used by Democrats to hold power.

      What did I do to you and minorities, Tgca? I have never owned or run a business. I have never been a landlord. I work, pay taxes and vote for taxes. Are those my sins?

      I don’t agree with my daughter’s political views. I love her unconditionally. That’s the difference between having children and feeding fish.

    632. Tgca says:

      642

      So you’re saying I’m racist against whites because I’m white too?

      Sorry, but most Latinos are Caucasians and I’m 50% Latino so I must hate at least half myself at a minimum if not 100%.

    633. Bitterlaw says:

      Vote for Republicans. Got distracted by The Walking Dead. Darryl’s girlfriend just betrayed him to some really bad people.

    634. Bitterlaw says:

      Vote for Republicans. Got distracted by The Walking Dead. Darryl’s girlfriend just betrayed him to some really bad people.

    635. Tgca says:

      644

      Yes. But my fish will not lead our nation towards destruction and join with vile hateful fascist people.

      I’m sure the Antifa and BLM extremists parents love them unconditionally too as their children destroy our nation.

      Good thing you’re not selfish.

      Now tell us why you want to go to Congress and be Pelosi’s little Bish again? To protect the nation from your own spawn? Is that it?

    636. Bitterlaw says:

      My daughter is not Antifa or BLM. I have steered my comments away from your personal life and your family for months. I saw your Snapchat accusation last night and let it go. Do you really want to resume that? Sorry you exposed yourself for who you really are but you did that yourself.

    637. Tgca says:

      You steered your comments away from my personal life by saying I use my heritage or being gay as a crutch? My heritage and being gay is a big part of my being you nitwit so an attack on that is an attack on my personal life.

      You call that steering it away?

      If I were a conservative AA poster here and stated the same thing would you tell me it’s all BS and that AA can’t feel the way they do about Romney because that’s not what you personally thought Romney meant? Even though I gave you examples where minorities I know were offended at Romney and took offense to his remarks?

      Since you’re all woke, I guess it would be a different story then because you’d want to look all brave in front of all your neighbors and post to everyone on Facebook you took the side of an AA while bigots from the south stated otherwise but only because he was AA did you intervene to be a hero.

    638. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca is getting shredded by Wes and Jason so he lashes out at me and my daughter. Sad.

      I am still waiting to hear what I did to him and other minorities.

    639. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes and Jason have been hammering you about your fake accusations of racism. Go back to them kicking your ass. Don’t get distracted by me. Focus.

    640. mnw says:

      Sinema is a marathon runner. She’s qualified for the Boston Marathon next week.

      I sure didn’t know that.

      Green activists plan to harass her there.

    641. Bitterlaw says:

      If you were a conservative, you would not be thinking you could win an argument by calling people racists and accusing them of white privilege. That’s what Democrats do.

    642. jason says:

      But these people don’t matter here and if they did get offended they just must be left wing loons.”

      Since it wasn’t racist you can call them whatever you want.

      The comment had nothing to do with racism.

    643. jason says:

      Jadon routinely insults people and calls them all kinds of derogatory vile names because he disagrees with them and then preaches it’s over the top when another poster opines what they believe another here?”

      Yeah, I think you were way over the top calling people racists.

      If you don’t like it, GFY.

    644. jason says:

      I know one Jamaican Latin guy that could not stand Romney because he thought he wreaked of racism and privilege and he is normally not political at all.”

      LOL

    645. jason says:

      Tgca 9:52

      “Jadon routinely insults people and calls them all kinds of derogatory vile names because he disagrees with them”

      Tgca 4:08

      “this old obese walking heart attack waiting to happen cholesterol through the ceiling swine-slaughtering shameless grease and fat and salt loving mental midget wet back.”

    646. Tgca says:

      651

      I’m not getting my butt kicked by them.

      They are joining forces because they’re annoyed I won’t accept it Reagan was a GREAT president and they’re rehashing the Romney argument t even though I’ve giving them examples of minorities I knew who were not radicals and who felt offended by Romney’s comments.

      You may or may not agree with them on it but to say that minorities were not offended and only the MSM manufactured it is not true so that’s in essence calling minorities liars and it’s that kind of perception most minorities continue to have of the GOP and conservatives and why we’re seeing the pendulum swing very far left on stoopid stuff like CRT as a form of retribution for denying minorities the way they feel on issues.

      As for your daughter, that’s your issue that you make excuses for her radically left indoctrination that you turn a blind eye to like you do all the woke issues and the perception of your community.

    647. Tgca says:

      658

      …and what in my post is not true!

    648. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason does act like he was born to a higher status than most. It is his Andes privilege.

    649. Tgca says:

      Well, it been fun but I’m going to settle down with my typical Sunday night movie before bed.

      I’ve been re-watching a lot of Gene Hackman films lately, as he’s one of my fav actors.

      Tonight, I chose Mississippi Burning. How apropos given tonight’s discussion here.

      Good night ladies!

    650. jason says:

      The only people who pretended to be offended were white liberals in the MSM and the Democrats, or am I repeating myself.

      And of course, the problem with your view of Reagan is that it is based on lies and falsehoods.

      Because you are wrong on both issues and made a fool of yourself, you lash out by calling people racists.

      Really stupid.

    651. jason says:

      ‘denying minorities the way they feel on issues”

      Zzzzzzzz……

    652. jason says:

      Tgca calls me a wetback and then asks what is not true.

      I love it here.

    653. Bitterlaw says:

      You brought my daughter into this because you are scum. Always have been but you used to be able to hide it better. I said I disagree with her political views so that is hardly excusing them. Are you saying you can’t love your children unless you agree with them on politics? I am sure the posters who have children now realize why I call you a clown.

    654. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason had a heated argument with Lupita over eating meat. He promised to never eat her or her family. Unlike the scrapple ran out.

    655. Bitterlaw says:

      Unless the scrapple ran out.

    656. jason says:

      I would never eat Lupita. I would have to trade her with another llama owner, so I would eat his llama and he would eat Lupita.

    657. mnw says:

      What a silly boring beatdown.

      TG is one of us. Let’s move on.

    658. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      670. Agree. This board is like a big, boisterous dysfunctional family, and the world has more pressing issues:

      “Former USAF Officers to present evidence of UFOs Tampering with Nuclear Weapons. Former officers call on the U.S. Congress to hold public hearings.”

    659. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Daily Beast
      Matt Lewis

      “It Took Biden 48 Years to Be President and 8 Months To F— It Up

      Speaking of Donald Trump, I’ve continued to emphasize that Biden’s only real mandate was to not be Trump. This meant a return to normalcy. This meant calming things down, bringing people together, and creating a more tranquil nation. This meant being more honest and empathetic. This meant being competent. Unfortunately, none of those things materialized, which helps explain why his polling with independents mirrors Trump’s. When Quinnipiac looks at Biden’s personal traits, only 49 percent say he “cares about average Americans.” Just 44 percent say he’s honest, and a mere 41 percent say he has good leadership skills.”

    660. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Gallup poll:

      “Americans by significant margins now view the Republican Party as better than the Democratic Party at protecting the nation from international threats (54% to 39%, respectively) and at ensuring the nation remains prosperous (50% to 41%).”

    661. Paul says:

      Republicans are traitors to America and the Constitution.

      Go to hell SanDiego!

    662. jason says:

      mnw says:
      October 11, 2021 at 1:29 am

      What a silly boring beatdown.

      TG is one of us. Let’s move on.”

      Don’t forget, you can always move on from here if you think it is boring.

    663. Country Dick Montana says:

      Come on Paul. We pay for your meds. You could at least thank us and take them as prescribed.

    664. jason says:

      Paul Troll is unhinged by Biden’s poll numbers.

      I suggest psychiatric help if you can get an appointment.

    665. jason says:

      “TG is one of us.”

      Who is “us” exactly?

      I always find it amusing that some people think we are all on the same side here.

    666. Tina says:

      More bad weather. /s

      Pete Muntean
      @petemuntean
      ·
      2h
      UPDATE: The Southwest Airlines weekend meltdown is not over. So far, it has has canceled 337 flights today—about one in every ten flights, according to
      @flightaware
      .

    667. jason says:

      Btw, that hit piece on Noem’s “affair” had the shelf life of a cogent thought in Paul’s brain.

    668. Bitterlaw says:

      Alliances at HHR are constantly swirling. On this thread alone, Wes and I had a heated exchange but also agree Tgca is a clown. In the past, Jason has sided with Tgca against me. In this thread, he took down Tgca over his false accusations of racism as well as his constant claiming victim status. It’s what we do.

    669. jason says:

      In the past, Jason has sided with Tgca against me.”

      I sided with him against your bogus claims that he called you a child predator. I didn’t agree with the “metrosexual” BS.

      And of course I had to take down the absurd notion that we are all racists because we don’t agree that Romney’s 47% comment was racist and his even more absurd theory that he has “special insight” into what others might consider to be racist because he is a downtrodden minority.

    670. jason says:

      One thing Tgca said yesterday still makes me laugh.

      “I know one Jamaican Latin guy that could not stand Romney because he thought he wreaked of racism and privilege and he is normally not political at all.”

      So a guy who hated Romney for being a racist and privileged thought Romney’s comment was racist.

      Wow, that certainly proves his point doesn’t it?

    671. Tina says:

      Walter Kirn
      @walterkirn
      · 13h
      So fed-up airline workers decide to walk & suddenly the left hates organized labor actions

    672. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      BOOM! Deep Pain for Biden in today’s Rasmussen(less) Poll!

      DATE APPROVAL INDEX STRONGLY APPROVE STRONGLY DISAPPROVE Approve DISAPPROVE Approve Disapprove
      11-Oct-21 -29 21% 50% 41% 58%

    673. jason says:

      Should we worry that at some point the only place for Biden to go is up in the polls?

    674. Phil says:

      Ras 50% strongly disapprove?

      A disapproval level that evil terrible Trump never once hit in his four years in the WH.

      Congrats, Joe. It only took you less than ten months to achieve this lofty level.

      Enjoy, Paul.

    675. Phil says:

      BTW, Kamala, how’s that border assignment coming?

    676. Tgca says:

      Jadon still going on his rant because I stated Reagan was a good president but not a GREAT president and since I now know how much it offends him, I will repeat it every day here.

      Jadon is a partisan conservative hack who also thinks GWB was a good president.

    677. Tgca says:

      Bitter will side with anyone who disagrees with me and LisaB and claim tale silly pot shots that we got beat down because he’s been humiliated by the fact we beat him down over his hypocrisy of attacking others, being an ignorant t bigot, and having nothing going in his life but posting at HHR and having only adolescents friends.

      It’s just part of him Bitter’s mental state where he’s at war with himself over woke culture and privilege living in Radnor but then he’ll torn on those he aligns like Wes spewing bigoted remarks and reminding us pretty much Wes .

    678. Tina says:

      Don’t fall for Rasmussen. It is a terrible polling firm.

      -Jebot

    679. Tgca says:

      As for Wes, he’s not happy unless he’s going all WESCON 1 on someone because he wants to be seem as the smartest one in the room and then tries to nuance and parse words and move goal posts to achieve his inferiority complex of accomplishing nothing more in life than giving back rubs with all this great knowledge he believes only he has while degrading people from the northeast and especially senators allegedly caught in acts that he was not convicted of that appear no worse then the accusations Wes himself is accused of which he refuses to publicly address.

      Now if that’s not hypocrisy, I don’t know what is.

    680. Transparent Dem Troll says:

      Happy Columbus Day!

      F Virginia Gov. Northam who renamed it “indigenous people day.” Northam wouldn’t have had the b-lls to get on the boat and sail off into the unknown.

    681. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgclown reaches into his bag of played out trucks and comes up with “adolescent friends.” So sad to see how far he has fallen.

    682. Tgca says:

      Just catching up on the comments I did not get to respond to last night.

      Now y’all have a nice day as I’m sure Jadon will continue slobbering down excessive volumes of heart destroying and cancer causing high fat greasy diet on the advice of medical quacks he found on the internet who lost their medical licenses all while advocating for Dr. Fow-chees next presidential medal and reminiscing how GREAT Reagan was followed a close 2nd by GWB while Bitter will watch numerous woke NFL clips belching down can after can of woke Coke because his best friends can’t chat while they’re in school putting himself at risk for being dismissed AGAIN from work for not being productive, and Wes daydreams about what emotionally damaged young ladies might come his way that he can take advantage of today, all while hypocritically accusing Senator Menendez of being a low life.

    683. Tgca says:

      694

      I don’t have any trucks but thanks for trying to make a point.

      …and Bitter gets on me about my Newark EDUMACATION. HA!

      I noticed Bitter did not refute his wokeness and Radnor white elitism.

    684. Tgca says:

      Was this In Philly? I could see that.

      I know it’s not Radnor because this looks like a minority couple and they’re not welcome in Philly unless they’re doing domestic work for the residents.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Covid-Vaccine-Mask-California.jpg

    685. Bitterlaw says:

      Still waiting for you list of what I did to harm minorities.

      Tricks was autocorrected to trucks. You remember autocorrect, right? Still making White Russian and Black Russian for your high end clients?

    686. Tgca says:

      698

      You’re an elitist white privileged guy that who thinks they’re better than minorities who makes stoopid IGORENT patronizing comments about minorities you think you know so much about living 6 miles away.

      That’s your crime against minorities. Clearly, I did not mean physical harm because any 13 year-old ghetto girl could whip your ass if you ever got out of your car on the freeway as you drove by their neighborhood in Philly.

    687. jason says:

      Funny how in 2012 Tgca, a poor downtrodden minority victim of horrible racist Romney, had all these “friends in the ghetto”, while by his own admission he had important jobs, lived in a beach house in Ft. Lauderdale and shopped at Whole Foods.

    688. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – Now I am guilty of crimes against minorities by being an elitist white privileged guy. Tgca is expanding from the Democrats standard attack lines to go back in time to Occupy Wall Street attacks.

    689. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca spends more money on fake food than I spend on a case of soda and a box of frosted Cheerios.

    690. mnw says:

      “one of us” means “a longtime poster who is politically conservative, & often posts interesting information”

      “one of us” doesn’t mean “agreeing with me”

    691. Gordon Allen says:

      Apparently you can’t say senile and incompetent here about Biden without the censors kicking in ala Google.

    692. Tgca says:

      698

      Clearly Bitter resents I could actually serve adults in my circle of friends a Black or White Russians while all his best friends are nearly a good decade off from being able to legally have an exquisitely prepared Black or White Russian.

    693. DW says:

      704 – This is a test of freedom of speech. This is only a test.

      Joe Biden is an incompetent, senile, fake president.

    694. Bitterlaw says:

      But you only know how to make White Russia and Black Russia. You posted it.

      Still proving you are a clown with the accusations about adolescent friends. You have destroyed your reputation here with your accusations of racism, white privilege, and “crimes” against minorities.

    695. Tgca says:

      700

      I lived in a beach house in Floreedah?

      REALLY? That’s news to me. 1st Bitter says I lived in a high rise on the beach and now Jadon has upgraded me to my own personal beach house. I might have to go back to work soon to keep up this lavish lifestyle.

      But back to reality. I live a very distant 1.25 miles from the beach and can’t get a clear view of the ocean unless I climb up on my roof, and only then can I see the ocean just as clearly as Sara Palin can see Russia from her house.

      I do shop at Whole Foods but so do many AA in Fort Lauderdale, as well as its staff which is probably 50%+% minority or else they is some white folk dat got some really good tans going on them

      Unlike the old days, or Radnor, we now let Black Folk in da stores to shop in case you did not know.

      Incidentally, there are a number of low income rentals closer to the beach than me. Mostly 1 BR or efficiency apartments that are common in the old beach town known as Fort Lauderdale.

    696. mnw says:

      Sheep

      Three polls still have Biden with net positive JA: Reuters/IPSOS; IBD/TIPP; and HarrisX.

    697. Tgca says:

      707

      Only in your little demented mind have I destroyed my reputation. There are no reputations at HHR. There’s just anonymous posters that debate and occasionally fight over silly things with some going all WESCON 1 at times you silly nitwit.

      Another part of your MO. Try to expand your feelings across all of HHR. I guess you think all of HHR likes the Black National Anthem or enjoys the company of adolescents as you do too, riiiiight?

      Most here still think you’re woke and live in white privileged elitist town so folks in glass houses should not cast stones.

      I think your a clueless bigot who can’t understand how out of touch you are with minorities and who tries so hard to show others you can relate with your stoopid comments like being from Philly, walking 9 blocks to work carrying a 20 pound briefcase full of Coke…

    698. Bitterlaw says:

      More Dem talking points from Tgca. To correct the record, Sarah Palin did not say she could see Russia from her house.

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sarah-palin-russia-house/

    699. Phil says:

      mnw,

      You aren’t buying those polls are you?

    700. Meldrim says:

      So Tgca chides Bitter for a fat-fingered typo (the u is next to the i on the keyboard, which led to “back of trucks”)? That’s interesting, coming from someone who writes “wreaks” when he means “reeks.” All that schooling and he still spells at only a fourth-grade level–in the one language that he knows.

      But at least Tgca is a conservative who is quite knowledgeable about history and politics … (checks notes) … nope, he is so Leftist that he thinks that Mitt Romney’s 47% comment was “racist” and so ignorant that he thinks that Ronald Reagan was not a transformative president. Tgca literally is the only self-described conservative whom I’ve ever met who does not think that Reagan was a great president.

    701. Tgca says:

      703

      Using Bitter’s small mind adolescent teen-centrist thinking, MNW just beat down Jadon because he offered a different view of a post than Jadon. That’s considered a bear down in Bitter’s midget mind.

      Bitters small mind thinks like that because he’s got that teen click mentality going on but what Bitter doesn’t realize, because he had no adult relations, is using his teen-centrist logic, he gets beat down here regularly…like daily by many posters.

    702. mnw says:

      Phil

      Absolutely not. I can’t explain the wild discrepancy– the first of those polls is from a very conservative outfit (IBD), too.

      Wanna know how Politico says the White House explains the lousy polls? “It’s the pandemic, stupid!”

    703. Tgca says:

      713. Meldrim

      That was humor directed at Bitter based on past posts. We all have typos here and occasionally rib one another firbthem.

      But I say to our local fascist, thanks for checking in. Have you demanded to see anyone’s vaccination card today?

      …and for the record, Meldrim is NOT the only conservative I’ve ever come across who is a fascist and wants to dictate his fascist views on other.

    704. Tgca says:

      Meldrim mocks others for their conservative views but I’ve not come across any REAL conservatives who think business have a right to deny you access because you’re not vaccinated.

      REAL conservatives don’t support discrimination based on your private medical decisions.

      The VAST majority, if not all of REAL conservatives are against such fascist ideas that Meldrim embraces.

      Maybe it’s where he grew up, who knows?

    705. Tgca says:

      Meldrim has more in common with Biden, Newsom and Dr. Fow-chee on vaccinations than any conservative I know.

      Shall be segue into a debate over vaccinations where Meldrim got his butt kicked big time by HHR posters and ran away or should we keep up with Bitter’s wokeness and Radnor’s elitist views?

    706. mnw says:

      Meldrin

      I don’t know if you saw it, but I added this postscript to our discussion about MO-05 & redistricting:

      “I still believe the MO GOP will not go after Cleaver. Not budging an inch on that prediction. BUT if the GOP is going to do it, 2022 is probably the best chance they’ll ever have.”

      On a marginally related topic, because it illustrates how risk averse and stodgy the MO GOP* is:

      I like to cf TN & MO. TN gains population which exceeds the national average, & accordingly has retained its House delegation pretty consistently, as I recall. MO? I think it once had 11 seats (just going by memory). But I KNOW it had 10 during my lifetime. Now it’s down to 8, and its population gains are always below the national average. Lost 20% of its delegation.

      One of the reasons for that, imo, is that TN’s legislature boldly abolished the state income tax, and reaped yuuge economic benefits as a result. In MO, the GOP runs the whole show, but it has never even whispered about emulating TN’s example. The MO GOP leaves money on the table every time!

      *(and MO generally)

    707. Tgca says:

      Here’s an update on a Meldrim’s hero Newsom who is mandating vaccines for kids but yet his 12 year old daughter has yet to receive one.

      Maybe Bitter can Snapchat with her and get her onboard so her dad doesn’t look like a total hypocrite like Meldrim.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/despite-his-mandate-gavin-newsom-12-year-old-daughter-has-yet-to-get-the-vaccine/

    708. Phil says:

      Biden carried independents by double digits according to exit polls. Quinn has him just under 30 points underwater with them now. Quinnipiac just confirms that trend with indies in every other poll I’ve seen. You can’t get Biden anywhere close to 50% getting crushed with indies like this.

      Ras comes closer to hard weighting party ID than any other poster. They weight a D+2 sample. If he’s at 41% overall, well, everyone can do the math in imagining what they have him at with indies.

      The guy has been in free fall. Now, I’ll admit he is close to his bottom plateau as there are still more Democrats than Republicans….so there is limit as to the base overall number….but damn

    709. mnw says:

      Phil

      Agreed again

      I think he CAN still go lower, though, because his JA with DEMs has also fallen lately– along with Indies, just not as much.

      There’s inflation heading straight at us, and most voters haven’t felt the full bite yet.

    710. Tgca says:

      Wow! Watch this video of what appears to be a white Radnor elitist resident retreat like a coward after getting in the face of a minority doing his job.

      Hmmm…I wonder if it’s someone we know.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/dude-complains-to-workers-about-leafblower-noise-regrets-it/

    711. Phil says:

      Yeah, he indeed could fall another couple of points overall…and you are correct I think to believe inflation could be the main reason, mnw. It’s going to be with us for the next year.

    712. Bitterlaw says:

      mnw/Meldrim – You have lives so you are not here every day. I need to correct Tgclown’s lies so you do not get a wrong impression about me. As long as I have posted here, I have coached youth sports. I have never been accused by any child or parent or family member of inappropriate conduct or contact with minors. I have passed every clearance a DMX criminal background check required to coach. I do not Snapchat players. I do not see, hang out with or socialize with players outside of games. I have paid for end of season frozen yogurt parties attended by players AND their parents. I don’t eat frozen yogurt. I will continue to point this out in response to Tgclown’s vile comments about me.

    713. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzzzz . I have no issue with leaf blowers or anybody working on properties. They work hard. I do my own yard work because I like it and can pretend it is exercise.

    714. Bitterlaw says:

      Not sure what autocorrect used to make DMX. If there was a DMX criminal background check, I am sure I would pass that, too.

    715. Tgca says:

      726

      So Bitter admits he’d rather take care of his own yard than let some minority that needs a job on his property.

      …and he claims he’s not harming minorities.

      Unbelievably insensitive post.

    716. Tgca says:

      727

      Uh oh! When Meldrim gets a break from checking vax cards of people just trying to get a meal, he will next come after Bitter for the typo once.

      Beware the Gestapo Meldrim!

    717. Tgca says:

      725

      I don’t know why you’re so sensitive about the coaching thing. It’s silly! Like anyone would believe a middle-aged white male would behave inappropriately with kids. You’re paranoid dude!

      By the way, speaking of outstanding GOP citizens giving back to their community, I heard Dennis Hastert is thinking of running for Congress again. I wonder if that’s true.

    718. Meldrim says:

      Tgca lies about everything. Irrespective of how often he is reminded (by me or others) that I am completely opposed to government mandates, whether for vaccination or masking, he posts his ridiculous lies. He constantly lies about Bitter and his youth coaching, and now has taken to lying about Jason’s citizenship status. Tgca also lies about being a conservative, about being well educated and well read, and, I strongly suspect, about being Hispanic. He might be straight and a meat-eater for all we know, since he has lied about everything else.

    719. Meldrim says:

      The only evidence that Tgca is gay is his assumption that any adult who mentors children is sexually abusing them.

    720. Tgca says:

      731

      Meldrim having a meltdown because we called him on his fascism BS and only SDC came to his aid – funny that two so called minorities here want to discriminate against others.

      Own it Bish! You’re the one that believes it’s perfectly fine to require vax proof to enter a business and twisted yourself into a pretzel defending such an outright discriminating fascist idea.

      No REAL conservative would EVER support proof of citizens to provide vaccination but maybe because Meldrim claims he’s Hispanic, then maybe he’s used to such fascism frequently practiced in various Hispanic countries.

      The jokes about Jadon’s immigration status goes back years when someone suggested he be deported, and I was the only one that stepped forward to offer him a pathway to citizenship through marriage…for a fee or course.

      Meldrim now competing with Wes on faux outrage but not quite as good I admit. Clearly, Meldrim needs more practice. I’ll call this MeldrimCon 4 at this point…or maybe MelCon 4 sounds better.

    721. Tgca says:

      732

      Ah! Meldrim adopts the Bitter MO and assumes pedophilia is into the conversation.

      Is there something you’re struggling with you want to share with us here Meldrim while lurking in the shadows?

      No worries, as long as Bitter’s here it’ll never be kept secret for long.

      I’m starting to think Bitter has an admirer in Meldrim since he seems to come to his aid often. Hmmm…

    722. jason says:

      I can see from all the posts that all of Tgca’s chickens have come home to roost.

    723. Meldrim says:

      I had one post responding to your five-post hissy fit, and a second, one-line e-mail responding to your latest defamatory attack on Bitter because he coaches youth basketball and softball. You think that’s a “meltdown”? How would you describe your posts?

      And I do believe that businesses should have the right to set their own health and safety rules for employees and customers, and that the government should stay the heck out of it. No amount of hectoring by you or other statists will change my mind about it. My family never lived in a fascist country, but it did escape from a Communist country, and I will err on the side of free enterprise and freedom from government coercion every day and twice on Sunday. I am not giving the government the benefit of the doubt when it says that it has good intentions as it seeks to regulate how people run their own businesses.

    724. Meldrim says:

      one-line e-mail = one-line post

    725. Tgca says:

      736

      In other words, you support fascist ideology and think people should be discriminated based upon their health status.

      We understand exactly what you mean Meldrim. You support fascist ideas but don’t want to refer to them as fascist.

      You’re like the minority DL guys who have sex with other men but get offended if you say they’re gay and claim “I ain’t no f*ckin’ fag.”

      Got it!

    726. Tgca says:

      737

      Oh no! Meldrim made a typo. We he lecture himself on it? Hmmm….

    727. jason says:

      Tgca may well be part Hispanic, I very much doubt he is not white, unless he subscribes to the Biden Troll’s theory that Hispanics cannot be white. He also be gay and vegetarian.

      What he is NOT is a poor downtrodden minority and victim of society, which is the BS persona he assumes when he wants to pretend he is very privy to what people in the ghetto feel and think.

      If he wasn’t lying about all those important jobs he had, he is not poor and he can afford to spend three times as much for fru-fru food at Whole Foods.

      I think Tgca’s attempts at victimization are at an end.

      Time for new material.

    728. jason says:

      May be gay and vegetarian.

    729. Tgca says:

      735

      This is funny coming from Jadon, who besides Bitter, our long-standing reigning title-holder, fights day in and day out with many here and sometimes for days at a time about his posts where others mock or challenge him on his nuances or hypocrisy.

      Why you guys all so sensitive? Geez!

      No wonder most people left HHR over the years.

    730. Gordon Allen says:

      IBD polls were generally terrible for Trump and Republicans in 2020. Consistently.Like that other “republican ” polling from FOX (barf).

    731. jason says:

      You’re like the minority DL guys who have sex with other men but get offended if you say they’re gay and claim “I ain’t no f*ckin’ fag.”

      Over the top.

      I have been critical of Meldrin’s support for discriminatory and fascist practices of requiring papers to enter a private business. His claim that somehow this is ‘freedom” is completely misplaced and in truth has nothing to do with “running your own business” and everything to do with the worst of fascist ideology.

      But disagreeing on that topic is no reason for the above comment.

    732. jason says:

      Why you guys all so sensitive? Geez!”

      Funny, you didn’t say I was too “sensitive” when I challenged Bitter’s assertion that you called him a child predator.

    733. Meldrim says:

      There are a lot of black (or, more correctly, mulatto) Puerto Ricans, so, if Tgca isn’t lying about being half Puerto Rican, maybe it’s true that he isn’t white (or maybe not, who knows?). But he definitely isn’t a victim of society by any stretch.

      What he certainly is not is well educated. Spelling “wreaks” instead of “reeks” is not a typo, or a careless mistake. It’s a sign that he has very poor vocabulary and doesn’t read very much (and what he does read he doesn’t understand, like Kevin Kline’s character in A Fish Called Wanda):

      Otto: Apes don’t read philosophy.

      Wanda: Yes they do, Otto, they just don’t understand it.

    734. Tgca says:

      740

      I do not claim to be poor and down trodden just like I never claimed to have a beach house so you need to brush up on your ESL and comprehension skills please.

      What I said is I grew up in one of the worst and violent US slums and have experienced much that has defined my views and thought process, and so I do enjoy putting elitists and bigots like Bitter in their place when they assume because of my outward appearance or standard of living, I have no idea what it’s like to experience hardships….and yes, I think it is bigoted to assume people are a certain way when you do not have their view on life…think Hillary and folks as an example who are bigots because they think minorities are too stoopid to make choices for themselves because they simply are defining them by sone idea they have of minorities.

      That’s what I see in certain, not all posters at HHR. It’s my view just as you have your views on Reagan being GREAT and GWB being a good president.

      As for today’s poor people, they don’t experience anywhere near the same level of poverty to what we did in the 70s with all the gubbermint benefits, though I admit violence in the ghetto can be a much more deadlier risk now with much easier access to semi-automatic guns than in years past.

      Your silly commentary it’s all in the past is like telling a victim of fascist regimes that it’s all in the past and should not matter to whom they are today or telling a rape victim it’s all in the past.

      If not for my experiences, my views of the world might be very different and I might be living in Radnor as a wokester bigot.

      Comprende?

    735. Tgca says:

      746

      As a PR, we come in different shades but most here in the US are Caucasians. I happen to be very light skinned but with thick wavy hair while one brother has poker straight hair and is as dark or darker than Mariah Carey, and a sister with olive skin and also wavy curly hair, and a light skinned brother with poker straight hair. So I’m not sure what your point is.

      My father was mildly dark complexion with AA-like thick curly close cropped hair, as was some of his brothers which probably came down from their grand parents who which at least one was black PR.

    736. Wes says:

      Tg’s been digging so much he’s now lapped himself in his various logical contortions.

    737. mnw says:

      725 BL

      I’m not proud of it, but I HAVE been here every day– since I returned from an 8-mo timeout.

      However, I skip all the posts that just don’t interest me. Some key words that cause me to scroll past INSTANTLY:

      1) tofu/bacon;

      2) Radnor;

      3) racist (except in a national political context);

      4) gay/LGBTQ (except in a national political context);

      5) rants that include name calling;

    738. Country Dick Montana says:

      Wes says Jason writes word salad. Tg writes word puke.

    739. Tgca says:

      746

      As for wordings in posts. It is quite common for people to type and either misspell words or type them wrong when typing because it is a brain function that is often associated with words moving faster in your heads than your precise thoughts. There is a technical term for this that I don’t recall but I’m sure you can Google and find it as it has nothing to do with understanding word meaning.

      I often don’t edit my posts like I would an official document but that has nothing to do with intellect or education again.

      It’s like often when people accidentally type “there or they’re instead of their” or “hear vs here” when clearly they know the difference.

      The fact that your all prissy about word presentation shows you fit more in San Francisco with elites than at HHR conservatives.

      You brag about where you went to school like Obama who got into Harvard Law but not on merits but because of most likely minority or community service status because it’s extremely rare to get into Harvard Law when you’ve not graduated with any honors from Columbia which was his case.

      So I’m glad word presentation is so important to you but like many of your fellow alumni in Ivy Leagues, you have fascist ideas and you can’t take it back as many of us called you on it a few weeks back as you ran away after badly losing that debate.

      So much for your Ivy League education when you spout fascist views.

      You’re conservative in the way Hitler was conservative me thinks.

    740. jason says:

      Puerto Rico is 76% white and 12% black (2016). Most Puerto Ricans are of Spanish descent, notably from the Andalusia and the Canary Islands, but there were significant numbers of French, Scottish, English, Irish, and German settlers, and in the 20th century thousands of Jews fleeing the Nazis and the Cuban communists settled in PR.

      So it is possible Tgca is part black but he never claimed to be so I doubt it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Ricans

    741. jason says:

      However, I skip all the posts that just don’t interest me. Some key words that cause me to scroll past INSTANTLY”

      Zzzzzzz….

      Nobody cares.

      GFY.

    742. Wes says:

      Herschel Walker has a surprisingly good initial fundraising quarter:

      https://www.ajc.com/politics/politics-blog/herschel-walker-off-to-37m-fundraising-start-in-2022-senate-race/A3QWBUNOBJESFO46LPSZ3GHFSI/

      Of course strong fundraising is not always the sign of a good candidate. See, O’Donnell, Christine–Delaware, 2010. Nonetheless, this shows Walker is taking the race seriously.

      Will Walker be a good candidate once he and Warnock face off? That is a complete unknown and my only concern about Walker. He’s never been in any sort of campaign before, so we don’t know until we get there if he’s up to the challenge.

      That said, the fundraising numbers alleviate any concerns he will be an indifferent candidate. Since apparently the GAGOP is going all in on him, I’m certainly hoping his campaign skills will match his fundraising skills. If so, he may be able to reverse the negative partisan trend in Georgia that started during the Trump years.

    743. jason says:

      I’m not proud of it, but I HAVE been here every day– since I returned from an 8-mo timeout.”

      I would give you a medal and tell you to GFY but I already told you to GFY.

      Because we spent so much defending Scooter from Kim’s lawsuit against the A-hole Club, I can’t even scrape enough together for the medal, I hope you will be happy with just half the prize.

    744. Tgca says:

      753

      Actually, I have mentioned it before but it is silly for someone with light skin as mine claiming to be black though I have been called the white N word before by some white elitists in Jersey. I have something like 8% black blood in me according to DNA analysis that seems to fluctuate periodically.

      Though my sister was called worse because of her darker complexion and frizzy hairdo at one point where all her friends were AA girls.

    745. jason says:

      I heard an interview the other day by Walker on the Glenn Beck show. I am not a fan of the program but he just happened to be introducing Walker as I scrolled by as I was driving so I listened.

      It was a softball interview, but Beck did ask about the allegations of domestic violence. Walker said “he never went to jail” and he had moved on from these kind of personal and partisan attacks.

      In general he seemed articulate enough, but I thought he was going to have to up his game on the allegations if he wants to survive the real attacks in the GE campaign.

    746. jason says:

      8%?

      Breaking news, Tgca is 100 times more black than Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.

    747. Meldrim says:

      I don’t brag about where I went to school. I was asked about it, and I answered the question, but I have never claimed to be correct based on my credentials. Even in my heated argument with mnw regarding whether it would be legally risky for the MO legislature to split up the MO-05 to make it favor the Republican nominee, I consistently based my argument on my knowledge of the history and composition of the district in question and VRA jurisprudence, not on where I got my law degree.

    748. Wes says:

      The good thing for Walker about the allegations, Jason, is that Warnock has more and far worse ones against him. Loeffler really didn’t use that ammunition against Warnock in the runoff. Walker needs to have it ready to go from Day One.

    749. Tgca says:

      749

      It’s not digging. At least I defend my views and myself Wes, right or wrong.

      What about the accusations you have abused emotionally damaged women, and from the posts I’ve seen, it’s not physical abuse being noted either?

      Why do you ignore these posts?

      I don’t understand how you can criticize Senator Menendez or Harvey Weinstein giving these accusation about you.

      Why do you run from them and not defend yourself? Is it because you can’t defend them?

      Inquiring minds want to know.

    750. Meldrim says:

      mnw, I did see your post re: how you believe that the GOP won’t go after Cleaver’s CD in 2021/22, but if there’s a time to do it is now. I don’t know whether GOP legislators will go for it; I just think that they should. Every House seat counts, and it can be done without imperiling any adjoining districts.

    751. jason says:

      Also, Walker spent at least half the interview telling the audience what a great football player he was.

      It was red meat for Georgia Bulldog fans, but again, more is needed.

    752. Tgca says:

      759

      You’re late on that Jadon. I posted on that specifically in past after doing the math.

      You’re always late to the game.

    753. Wes says:

      Some things aren’t worth answering, Tg.

      As for you, you continually post idiocy and inevitably make it worth with your logical convolutions when other posters call you out on it.

    754. jason says:

      he good thing for Walker about the allegations, Jason, is that Warnock has more and far worse ones against him.”

      True, but you know how that goes.

      Walker will be made into a monster, Warnock into a saint. Walker’s wife will be a paragon of virtue, Warnock’s wife a lying b-tch.

    755. Tgca says:

      760

      So Meldrim says he does not post his views based on the leftist schools he went to. It’s just coincidence I guess that he promotes fascist ideas like the alumni of the leftist schools he attended. His thinking on vaccination is closer to Obama then any conservative I know.

      You know they say there’s a fine line between a fascist leftist idealist like Hitler or Castro and a radically ultra conservative but now I’m starting to understand the point based on Meldrim’s logic, whereas I wasn’t so sure of that in the past.

    756. jason says:

      I have something like 8% black blood in me according to DNA analysis that seems to fluctuate periodically.”

      How many DNA tests do you take?

      Tgca keeps taking DNA tests in the hopes of better results?

    757. Tina says:

      Yikes.

      Rasmussen Reports
      @Rasmussen_Poll
      · 2h
      Biden 2020 win ‘tainted,’ 56% say it was a cheater’s paradise https://washex.am/3BABSuk

    758. Tgca says:

      766

      Uh oh! I think I might have to apologize to Bitter and others after doubting them about Wes all these years.

      F*CK!!! I’ll never live this down apologizing to Bitter! Chit!

      Why couldn’t Wes just deny the accusations! Now I’m indebted to Bitter.

    759. Tina says:

      His Fraudulency is in free fall.

    760. Wes says:

      Deny allegations that I have had prolific consensual sex with people of legal age, Tg?

      Sure.

      Let me get right on that.

    761. Tgca says:

      I actually did both Ancestry and 23andMe, and they’re both very similar. They constantly fine tune the DNA lines as more people join the pool. I often get emails about 1st or 2nd cousins.

      I’m worried I might find Meldrim is a close relative and then I have to admit fascism runs in my family.

    762. Tgca says:

      773

      No! Abusing emotionally distraught women suffering psychological disorders into having sex while they’re incapable of otherwise making sound judgments. To me it’s equivalent to date rape or taking advantage of a drunk girl but people always find a way to argue it’s really consensual because she knew about it. I guess that case could be made for any 18+ year-old with mental illness.

    763. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Biden Job Approval:
      Approve 41%
      Disapprove 58%
      @Rasmussen_Poll
      1,500 LV, 10/6-10

    764. Bitterlaw says:

      His thinking on vaccination is closer to Obama then any conservative I know.

      Irony Meter explodes since Tgca’s opinions on race are much closer to Obama’s than Meldrim’s views on vaccines.

    765. mnw says:

      H. Walker has received treatment in the past for multiple personality disorder syndrome. I doubt that will hurt him politically, but I worry he might say or do something crazy.

      The domestic abuse charge concerns me a lot– I hadn’t heard that.

      He’s a high risk/high reward candidate– personal issues vs. high name rec/football hero

      I’m in– running very conventional GOPe types last time didn’t work. In addition to what Trump hates him for, I’m bitter Kemp appointed Loeffler (altho she’s a GREAT stock picker!)

    766. Wes says:

      So you’re saying my life is the equivalent of a ’70s grindhouse movie, Tg.

      Then you wonder why I don’t consider what Bitter says worth acknowledging, much less refuting.

    767. Bitterlaw says:

      I never accused Wes of criminal activities with underage girls. Stop that BS now, Tgclown.

    768. mnw says:

      Will this who think Walker is a deadender & shouldn’t be nominated step forward now?

      Instead of waiting until after his crazy moment occurs?

    769. Wes says:

      I’ve already said I think Walker is an unproven candidate who may or may not be up to the race, Mnw. If Walker does blow it, I hope he does so in the primary so the GAGOP can run a more competent candidate against Warnock.

    770. Tgca says:

      779

      I don’t know Wes. Sometimes I take leaves of absence from HHR and all I know is I come back and somehow there is this information out there, mainly by Bitter, you take advantage of these emotionally distraught women which is a psychological disorder in which they otherwise may be incapable of making rational decisions. How is that different than things like Bill Cosby tried to do? I’m bit talking about the method, I’m talking about the act after the method kicked in so to speak.

      I have defended you in the past when Bitter showed his bigotry to you as a southern but I’m perplexed that you’re pretty much being called a sexual predator and refuse to defend yourself but you’ll spend hours fighting over what a single sentence means.

      If this is true, I could not imagine why anyone here would want to engage with you and how you could criticize Senator Menendez.

    771. Tgca says:

      780

      I said nothing about underage girls. Where did I say that?

      I said anyone that abuses a woman has not right to criticize others accused of abusing others.

    772. Tgca says:

      If you’re going to distort what I say and attack my character, I’m gonna be a mini Trump and hit you back much harder.

      Don’t like it, then don’t attack others characters with mistruths and gross exaggerations.

      As one other argumentative poster here says, you reap what you sow.

      I have all day to counter attack so you think about it.

    773. jason says:

      Walker is not a deadender since there is no safe R seat that he is threatening to deliver to the Dems by running.

      I agree he is somewhat of a risky candidate, but more because he lacks experience in dealing with a hostile media.

      The abuse allegations stem from his ex-wife, which she made AFTER the divorce in 2002. In 2005 Walke had a restraining order because his ex-wife’s sister said he was threatening his sister.

      Since there is not a pattern of abuse with other women, this likely could be a fake or exaggerated story. Still, it will probably be front and center for the MSM.

      I personally would run Perdue or Loeffler against Warnock, even though usually I dislike re-threads.
      Only a small shift from 2020 would deliver it back to Rs, assuming the fraud can be controlled with the new voting law in GA.

      But since they don’t seem to be running, Walker seems like he will be the nominee.

    774. Tgca says:

      777

      The irony meter explodes coming from our only in-house wokester that has more in common with Obama on wokeness and elitism than any poster here.

    775. Bitterlaw says:

      Poor Tgclown. Lisab is too busy cyberstalking Radnor students to protect him from his own posts.

    776. Tina says:

      These vaccine mandates for the hospital services and pilots are stupid.

      There are employee shortages. How long does it take to trainthese individuals.

      We are becoming a turd world country.

    777. jason says:

      I should rephrase the above.

      There is no better R candidate in the primary to run against Warnock.

      As I mentioned, I prefer a more battle tested R to run.

    778. Tgca says:

      789. Tina

      The vaccine fascists, including a couple here, selectively believe in freedoms. It’s not going to change until people stand up and call them out on it and refuse to comply.

    779. jason says:

      We are becoming a turd world country.”

      Yes.

    780. Tgca says:

      788

      PityLaw trying to offer me unsolicited pity. I neither need or want your pity.

      I prefer you spend your time becoming Unwoke but we all know that ain’t gonna happen.

      Don’t you have some friends to Snapchat with before they have to get home to dinner?

    781. Tina says:

      Let’s fire thes qualified medicical professionals, air traffic controllers, and pilots is stupid, Fire workers during a pandemic, when the economy is terrible, and when there are shortages of trained workers.

      His Fraudulency and the Rinos make little sense.

    782. Tina says:

      The next thing is the truckers need to go out on strike.

      Phuq Ccp Biden and his enablers.

    783. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca doesn’t want or need pity but repeatedly talks about his impoverished childhood, all the discrimination he has faced for being Hispanic and gay, and all the racism he has endured.

      I love this place.

    784. mnw says:

      Only a real fool would like a second helping of Perdue and/or (ESPECIALLY) Loeffler.

      I donated to both of them, only because of what was at stake if they lost.

    785. Tgca says:

      796

      I talk about my childhood or experiences when you bring it up or to educate you on your ignorance of what you think offends or does not offend minorities because you have absolutely no clue of what many minorities think or feel in your little protected white privileged elitist world where you think being woke or claiming you’re from Philly buys you entryway into opining on minority issues and concerns.

      You should be the last one here criticizing others for sharing because we pretty much know everything about your life as we have been acting as your substitute therapist for years.

      Now tell us again how discriminated you were again because you were not allowed to join the military and endanger your fellow troops because of your medical issue. You could have served cleaning bathrooms or feeding troops on the base, we just can’t have you out in the field of action putting their lives on the line.

    786. jason says:

      nly a real fool would like a second helping of Perdue and/or (ESPECIALLY) Loeffler.”

      mnw as usual hates any R candidate that might actually win.

      He pines for certified losers like Akin, Kobach, COD, Mourdock, Buck, Angle, Miller, McDaniel, Moore.

      He would love to have “second helpings” of them.

      Now THAT is not foolish.

    787. Tgca says:

      795. Tina

      Not yet! Let me order and receive my weekly goods from Amazon before you go and start a truck strike.

    788. jason says:

      A guy who spends hours here running interference for Todd Akin has the chutzpah to whine about Loeffler.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    789. jason says:

      Loeffler (altho she’s a GREAT stock picker!)”

      Nice character assassination from a pathological liar, but of course we know Loeffler didn’t pick ANY stocks.

    790. Tina says:

      The Georgia .secretary of Staci Abrams, Brad Pukesperger, is a year too late.

      FULTON COUNTY, Ga. (FOX 5 Atlanta) – Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has called the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate allegations that employees in Fulton County shredded hundreds of voter registration applications in the past few weeks.

    791. jason says:

      Let me order and receive my weekly goods from Amazon”

      I credit Biden for lifting poor downtrodden minorities like Tgca out of poverty so they can afford “weekly goods” from Amazon.

      Thank God we don’t have a racist like Romney, who would have personally kept Tgca in a New Jersey ghetto.

    792. mnw says:

      “mnw pines for Akin”

      And this guy calls OTHER people “liar”?

      I love this place!

      (actually I DON’T love this place because it’s dominated by a single rude threadpig, which is why so few posters)

      If I “hate candidates who might win,” why did I donate to both Loeffler & Perdue? How much did HE donate to those winners?

    793. jason says:

      Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger”

      I can’t wait to be rid of this idiot.

      He couldn’t “investigate” himself out of soap bubble.

    794. jason says:

      “mnw pines for Akin”

      Considering how many posts you have written defending him, it is a fair statement.

    795. jason says:

      actually I DON’T love this place because it’s dominated by a single rude threadpig, which is why so few posters)”

      So why are you still here?

    796. Tgca says:

      804

      Finally! Jadon agrees with that Romney is a racist.

      Baby steps.

      To be fair, I too for the longest time wanted to believe Romney was a decent man but after the last 5 years I can’t find one decent thing about the man. Not one! It’s like his whole life has been a lie and I have to revisit every thought I ever babe the guy. Kinda like Dennis Hastert but for different to reasons.

    797. Paul says:

      I have never wished death upon anyone

      except for Trump.

    798. mnw says:

      807 is a lie. Jason is a liar.

      That’s a fact, not an opinion. No-one here thinks I voted for Akin, and neither does Jason. It’s just a lie.

    799. Bitterlaw says:

      I talk about my childhood or experiences when you bring it up or to educate you on your ignorance of what you think offends or does not offend minorities because you have absolutely no clue of what many minorities think or feel in your little protected white privileged elitist world where you think being woke or claiming you’re from Philly buys you entryway into opining on minority issues and concerns.

      So many lies and distortions and I’m getting ready to drive home. Wes/Jason/Meldrim called you out on your claims of being the Minority Whisperer. I am not from Philadelphia. I did live there for 8 years (1994-2002) and have studied, lived and/or worked in the city and Philadelphia suburbs since 1990. I am not woke, there is video to prove that I am not woke, and you can GFY.

    800. jason says:

      “Loeffler’s portfolio came under scrutiny when a large number of stocks that she or her husband owned were sold off shortly after she attended a senators-only briefing on the coronavirus and during the time that the virus began to spread across the country.

      She said that the Jan. 24 meeting included no private information and all stock trading on her behalf is handled by financial advisers who act independently and without her input

      “Today’s clear exoneration by the Department of Justice affirms what Senator Loeffler has said all along– she did nothing wrong,” spokesman Stephen Lawson said. “This was a politically-motivated attack shamelessly promoted by the fake news media and her political opponents. Senator Loeffler will continue to focus her full attention on delivering results for Georgians.”

      Of course, pathological liar and “Loeffler donor” mnw is still here spreading debunked lies about Loeffler “picking stocks”.

    801. jason says:

      No-one here thinks I voted for Akin, and neither does Jason.”

      Zzzzz…

      I certainly do, with your track record here I would never believe anything you say.

    802. jason says:

      Finally! Jadon agrees with that Romney is a racist.”

      And some people don’t think a sugar and tree bark diet rots your brain.

    803. Tgca says:

      805 mnw

      I don’t think you should make judgment calls on what folks eat even if it’s unhealthy greasy fat and salt inundated swine that will raise your cholesterol and triglycerides to dangerous levels.

      But your point is well taken. I do think some long time posters exited because they got tired of the personal attacks. I was surprised when I returned after extended absences how few posters we have left.

      I prefer a good fight myself so I’m not one to run but it does take away from the good ole days before the board became donimated by a few long time posters who think their length of time here provides them seniority status over who should stay and not.

    804. Tgca says:

      815

      …and don’t forget recent studies where consuming bacon is shown to cause dementia.

      So for the last time. I DO NOT LIVE IN OR OWN A BEACH HOUSE!!!

    805. mnw says:

      Why do you put “Loeffler donor” in quotes?

      I suspect you contributed nothing. From YOUR posts, I don’t think you’ve had any success in life. I don’t believe you’re going to buy any Bitcoins!

      I’m retired. You spend your whole LIFE here. I don’t believe you have a pot to pee in.

      How much did you donate to Loeffler? I think I gave Loeffler & Perdue $150 each. And you, Bigtime Boy? How much?

    806. Tgca says:

      Every one always calling each other liars here with no proof. It’s actually annoying I thay.

      It’s one thing to say “I disagree with you or your wrong or you don’t know what you’re talking about or your too stoopid to understand or now I see why you married such an ugly woman “ but I don’t comprehend why so many here immediately jump to the “liar” offense when more often than not it’s simply about disagreement and not statements of irrefutable facts.

    807. Bitterlaw says:

      Who is the thread pig? If it is an A-hole, he will get a lot of points.

    808. Tgca says:

      818

      Not everyone can afford to donate. Don’t forget about the woman in the Bible who gave her only pennies or something like that.

      Take Bitter, after being dismissed for poor performance he still found it in his heart to give $10 to his favorite charity when attending an event.

      To be fair, I think I Mrs Bitter gave much more to keep the neighbors from gossiping and as the main breadwinner in the family. Bless her heart. It’s always the women who do the most.

    809. Tgca says:

      821. Tina

      I saw that earlier and thought it was funny but I was too busy addressing fascist posters who think it’s ok to require vax proof to eat.

    810. Tgca says:

      Ok. This is gonna be upsetting fir some but I got a busy day of errands tomorrow so I’m not likely gonna post here after the AM. Hopefully LisaB can fill in.

    811. jason says:

      Say hello to your ghetto friends and make sure you ask them what Republicans have said that offended them lately so you can regurgitate it here.

    812. jason says:

      Who is the thread pig? If it is an A-hole, he will get a lot of points.”

      You rannnnnngggggggg?

    813. jason says:

      How much did you donate to Loeffler? I think I gave Loeffler & Perdue $150 each. And you, Bigtime Boy? How much?”

      I believe you can find a post here where I said my $100 to each of them was my last contribution ever to political candidates. I had already sent them the same amount before the GE.

      It was probably a few weeks before the runoff election.

      Don’t you ever tire of being wrong and being a compulsive liar?

      Did I tell you to GFY yet?

    814. Tgca says:

      825

      Clearly just like GWB hates black people, Jadon hates ghetto peeps.

      The minority folks I know that were offended by Romney were not ghetto as far as I know.

      Damn! Jadon is trying to out-bigot Bitter now with his assumption that all people of color are ghetto folk.

    815. jason says:

      Damn! Jadon is trying to out-bigot Bitter now with his assumption that all people of color are ghetto folk.”

      Aren’t you making that assumption. I said nothing about color.

      Keep digging.

      Say hello to your ghetto friends and make sure you ask them what Republicans have said that offended them lately so you can regurgitate it here.”

    816. jason says:

      I believe you can find a post here where I said my $100 to each of them was my last contribution ever to political candidates. I had already sent them the same amount before the GE.”

      Also mnw, compulsive liar, I bet my $400 to these candidates represented more a financial sacrifice for me than your $300 did for you.

    817. jason says:

      I DO NOT LIVE IN OR OWN A BEACH HOUSE!!!”

      Are you sure that before you moved to Philly you didn’t say you lived in a house on the water?

    818. Bitterlaw says:

      Even when he is fighting with Jason, Tgclown always drags me into it.

      I want points.

    819. Tgca says:

      831

      Fort Lauderdale is the Venice of Amerika.

      I lived on a water way that was about 2.5 miles from the ocean but my house was not a beach house. It was a home on the water with a boat dock but not a beach house.

      …and stop confusing me with Bitter. I never lived in or claimed to be from Philly though I’ve been there dozens of times but clearly not enough times to get a feel for what’s it’s like according to some posters here who only been to the south once and can get a feel for it and know they don’t want to live there because of the southern racists and prefer to live instead in northeastern US where the northeast folks slaughtered or forced out all the native Indians for their land.

    820. Cash Cow TM says:

      Today’s COVID related stories:

      7 DRUDGE
      3 AOL News

    821. Cash Cow TM says:

      Oh, and

      HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY
      (or whatever they are calling it these days)
      ************************************************
      PLUS:

      LET’S GO BRAN-DON!
      _______________________________
      AND

      Apparently today, goofballs were attacking the statue of Andrew Jackson near the capitol in D.C.

    822. Tgca says:

      832

      You’re HHR most popular poster. Come on man!

      Who is more despised here than you?

      Remember, you were chosen by HHR posters to be the designated…now what were your exact words… oh geez I forget but clearly you’re the victim chosen to suffer at the hands of HHR.

    823. Tgca says:

      I was thinking about Columbus Day today and how all those northeast folks slaughtered or forced out or swindled the Native Americans from their land and thought maybe…just maybe…if those folks were compensated for their loss, then maybe they could get NYC to pay reparations for the measly $24 they received for Manhattan.

      Assuming a reasonable 5% interest rate against that $24 over 395 years, NYC can reimburse them $5.6 billion.

    824. Cash Cow TM says:

      One of the people Walt played bridge with today said a person they know who teaches in south central PA has a long list of students in her class of what gender, name, pronoun, etc. they wish to be called and referred to as.

      One girl’s data (name, gender, pronoun, etc.) changes depending on WHICH EARRINGS SHE CHOOSES TO WEAR THAT DAY!
      @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

      The world has lost its frigging mind.

    825. jason says:

      I lived on a water way that was about 2.5 miles from the ocean but my house was not a beach house. It was a home on the water with a boat dock but not a beach house.”

      Ah ok…..

      Poor downtrodden victim Tgca lived in a home on the water with a boat dock in Florida.

      I stand corrected.

    826. jason says:

      832

      You’re HHR most popular poster. Come on man!

      Who is more despised here than you?”

      What??

      Now that hurts.

      Tgca can f–k off and Bitter can get the damm points.

      Sniff….

    827. jason says:

      I confused a house on the water with a boat dock in Florida with a beach house.

      When you are wrong you are wrong.

    828. jason says:

      and stop confusing me with Bitter. I never lived in or claimed to be from Philly ”

      Didn’t you say you got a job in Philly and lived there for a couple years until maybe last year. You were complaining about the cold. Didn’t your dog die there?

      Maybe too many martinis.

    829. jason says:

      Superman is gay now. Ok, bi.

      Normal.

      “As reported by the Guardian U.K. newspaper, Jonathan Kent, the new iteration of Superman, is bisexual, according to DC Comics. The traditionally heterosexual superhero will embark on a same-sex relationship with a friend in a new comic book series. “Jon,” who is the son of Clark Kent and Lois Lane, started his tenure in July.”

    830. Tgca says:

      839

      Yep. …and don’t forget it was only like 1,800 square feet to squeeze me and two dogs into a 2BR, 2BA + den, as the outside screened porch overlooking the water was not suitable to live in all year around and I had to pay like $150 month for landscaping to clear all the debri from the surrounding palm trees on the property.

      It wasn’t easy at all but I dealt with it.

    831. Tina says:

      Tim Murtaugh
      @TimMurtaugh
      ·
      24m
      This just keeps getting better.

      The company producing Kamala Harris’ video featuring professional child actors, which is called *Sinking Ship Entertainment* …is based in Canada.

    832. Tgca says:

      842

      No! I lived in south Jersey just 10 miles outside Philly for 2 years and then realized, why the f*ck did I come back to the Sewer State and live near this cesspool known as Philly.

      You really should give up the bacon dude. The studies show its bad for the brain and especially memory.

    833. Tgca says:

      Part of my family has been in Amerika as far back as 1709. If only one of my ancestors had invested $24 back then and put it in trust for me, I would now be worth like $98 million before taxes.

      Instead I have to struggle on a budget in retirement and make sure I keep my spending to less than $10,000 monthly.

    834. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca has truly suffered. Living no closer than 1.5 miles to a beach in Florida must be hell.

    835. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca is like the boy in The Sixth Sense. I can picture him saying, “I see racists.”

    836. Tgca says:

      848

      I’m glad you’re showing some compassion for once. Thank you.

      I’m forced to downsize in retirement too and stuck in a 1,200 sq ft 2 BR 2 BA duplex with garage and a small enclosed 30 by 10 foot private patio area with only 2 palm trees and one has freakin coconuts that fall to the ground. I hate coconut trees! Have you ever been hit in the head with a coconut?

    837. Tgca says:

      849

      I do. Fascists too! But only when I come to HHR.

    838. Tgca says:

      …and to top it off, I’m not sure I can afford the new Mercedes Escalade I’ve been wanting since my car is racking up the miles like crazy.

      I put almost 800 miles on my car in 11 months, li,e 73 mi.es a month, and now I’m up to nearly 88,000 miles. At this pace, I’ll hit 100,000 miles within the next 14 years.

      So retirement in Floreedah is not all peaches and cream.

    839. Bitterlaw says:

      So your last 12 months of posts are due to a head injury from falling coconuts? Makes sense.

    840. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @robbystarbuck
      I hear the #FreedomFlu is just absolutely terrible. Totally takes you out for as long as it takes for the losers in the White House to rescind their mandate on vaccines. Side effects: May bring the country to a grinding halt for a bit.

    841. Cash Cow TM says:

      “However, I skip all the posts that just don’t interest me. Some key words that cause me to scroll past INSTANTLY:

      1) tofu/bacon;

      2) Radnor;

      3) racist (except in a national political context);

      4) gay/LGBTQ (except in a national political context);

      5) rants that include name calling;”
      ___________________________________________

      mnw,

      Sadly, I do the same thing.

      I actually just skip all of the posts of a few posters all together.

      #########################################

      Does not take me long to check on what the news is on HHR.

    842. Tgca says:

      Now this lady is very very talented and makes me laugh.

      What would we do without the internet?

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/mentally-ill-tiktok-patient-of-the-day/

    843. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      854. Biden response to his low poll ratings was to shift the blame to the unvaccinated. Now the unvaccinated are in rebellion. Maybe Biden should follow the strategy he used in Afghanistan – pack his bags and during the night flee the U.S. Bogo Pogo would welcome Biden as a exile.

    844. jason says:

      Silverhack outdid himself today.

      He adjusted the 50-50 You Gov poll to 51-50 approval for Biden.

      Kommie Kory would be proud.

    845. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      858. YouGov | What the world thinks “The YouGov model is more than a poll. It’s a hybrid of a traditional opinion survey and an exercise in big data analysis.”

    846. Tina says:

      Breaking News:

      TEXAS—Governor Greg Abbott has issued an executive order banning vaccine mandates “by any entity.”

    847. Tgca says:

      860. Tina

      Just saw that. That means companies as well. This should be interesting for those companies doing businesses in multiple states.

      You gonna force vaccinations on CA but not TX employees?

    848. Tina says:

      Other Republican governors, including the idiot in Ohio, need to follow suit.

    849. Bitterlaw says:

      In 2022 House/Senate and 2024 Presidential primaries, will Republican candidates who did not get the vaccines be looked at more favorably than vaccinated candidates? Less favorably? No effect? Discuss.

    850. Tgca says:

      853

      So Bitter thinks it funny to make fun of people with repeated head injuries from falling coconuts.

      Then he wonders why he is mocked relentlessly here.

      Falling coconuts are a menace in south Floreedah. Not only do they smash car windshields and injure unsuspecting folks out and about, but they also endanger romantic moments too.

      https://www.dreamstime.com/pair-mating-iguanas-walk-way-aruba-pair-breeding-iguanas-concrete-walk-way-aruba-image107014912

    851. mnw says:

      Jill Biden to campaign with McAuliffe on Fri. Obviously McA’s campaign thinks it’s a positive.

      I’m somewhat surprised.

      H. Walker* has raised a staggering amount of money already– I think Politico said $3.7 million, going from memory. The DEMs will make sure Warnock is even better funded, I’m sure.

      I’ve also read that GA DEMs are going to go after Walker with negative ads before the primary, even– treating Walker’s nomination as a foregone conclusion & trying to drive up his negatives before he even gets started.

      Btw, employing Jason’s ‘logic,’ I guess that means the GA DEMs really WANT Walker to win the primary, and therefore shrewd Republicans should see through this DEM plot and vote AGAINST Walker– or something.

    852. mnw says:

      * I use H. Walker the first time to distinguish him from former WI Gov. Scott Walker.

    853. Bitterlaw says:

      I did not make off people. I speculated about a possible cause of the change in Tgca’s posts.

    854. Bitterlaw says:

      Not make fun of. Autocorrect sucks.

    855. Tgca says:

      867

      Uh oh! Our local fascist Meldrim will come and mock you for misusing words here at HHR.

      He’ll lecture you for lying about your EDUMACATION because it’s not a simple typo as it clearly demonstrates you lack understanding of grammar and vocabulary.

    856. Bitterlaw says:

      Meldrim said your Spanish sucks, too.

    857. Bitterlaw says:

      Meldrim said your Spanish sucks, too. I will have to take his word for it. I don’t speak Spanish.

    858. Tgca says:

      870

      I never disagreed with that. I did not get to practice my Spanish well as a child after mom threw my cheating dad out except for the profane words which are required knowledge where I grew up that you learn on the street. Perhaps if my dad was not your typical low life ghetto PR male, I could have been better EDUMACATED in Spanish. He had a thick accent too since he grew up in PR and not the contiguous states so I could’ve learned real ghetto Spanish.

      Meldrim’s Spanish is better than mine because he most likely ate rice and beans daily too. It helps I’ve been told by some of my full breed PR friends who teased I did not eat enough PR food.

    859. Phil says:

      I enjoyed Kamala’s discussion with the children. Loved how she talked to them like they were five year olds. She’s so genuine.

      It was really impressive.

    860. jason says:

      Btw, employing Jason’s ‘logic,’ I guess that means the GA DEMs really WANT Walker to win the primary, and therefore shrewd Republicans should see through this DEM plot and vote AGAINST Walker– or something.”

      Moral of the story: if you are too stupid to understand my logic, better keep your mouth shut and not comment on it before you make an ass of yourself.

    861. jason says:

      Tgca wants sympathy because he has a one in 100 thousand chance of being hit by a falling coconut?

      I have a hundred times more chance of being killed by a runaway Amish buggy.

    862. jason says:

      Youngkin hits 30% at Predictit.

    863. jason says:

      Even when he is fighting with Jason, Tgclown always drags me into it.

      I want points”

      No can do.

      Stop trying to make Tgclown feel important.

    864. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @henryolsenEPPC
      “Biden’s numbers with independents continue to crater. His 5-poll average among I’s from this morning’s RCP is 34.2-57. Minus 23 among independents is ten points worse than just a week and a half ago when I sounded the alarm. He’s gone from +13 in 2020 to -23 in 11 months”

    865. Tgca says:

      875

      Do you know how many coconut trees there are in south Floreedah? I live in considerable risk.

    866. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @henryolsenEPPC Replying to
      @MadPegger204

      “There’s a year to go and lots can change. If these numbers hold, however, the D’s will lose big. In Senate, these #s suggest loss of AZ, GA, NV and NH. No offsetting gains from marginal WI, PA, NC, FL. CO and maybe WA or OR would move into the danger zone”

    867. mnw says:

      SDC

      Given the eye popping terribleness of Biden’s JA, I was surprised to see that McAuliffe will be campaigning with… Jill Biden on Friday.

      He sees some upside there, obviously.

    868. mnw says:

      880 SDC

      CO doesn’t have any GOP Senators, so it WOULD be hard for the DEMs to pick up a seat there– unless CO has 3.

    869. jason says:

      Well assuming Biden is still popular with the liberal base, he might be wanting to shore it up.

      I doubt Jill Biden will be much of a factor with anybody else.

    870. mnw says:

      Why don’t you ignore all my posts, and I’ll ignore all of yours. Let’s give it a try.

    871. Tgca says:

      I have an idea to reduce to infighting on HHR and keep the peace.

      Everyone should just ignore everyone else’s posts and see how that works.

    872. Tgca says:

      Reagan was not a GREAT president. He was just an actor and bumbling imbecile in the right place at the right time.

      Romney is a rabid racist!

      McCain was a traitor who sold out his country to get Dems applauding him for sticking it to Trump.

      Trump is the best president in my lifetime.

      I feel much better now knowing I can express my opinion without worry.

    873. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The lunatics are running the asylum in California:

      “SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California on Saturday became the first state to say large department stores must display products like toys and toothbrushes in gender-neutral ways, a win for LGBT advocates who say the pink and blue hues of traditional marketing methods pressure children to conform to gender stereotypes.

      The new law, signed by Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, does not outlaw traditional boys and girls sections at department stores. Instead, it says large stores must also have a gender neutral section to display “a reasonable selection” of items “regardless of whether they have been traditionally marketed for either girls or for boys.”

      That does not include clothes. The law only applies to toys and “childcare items,” which include hygiene and teething products. And it only applies to stores with at least 500 employees, meaning small businesses are exempt.”

    874. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Victor Davis Hanson brings up an interesting question should a Republican be elected president in 2024:

      “Will the Right prod General Mark Milley’s replacement to collude with soon-to-be Speaker Kevin McCarthy and call the Russians to warn them that Biden is demented, democracy is “messy,” Kamala Harris is crazy, and thus Moscow might need a warning from us about any Biden preemptive aggression?”

    875. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Phil, why did the SEC adopt those high monetary fines for a stadium crowd rushing the field? Read that Texas A&M got hit with a $100,000 fine, and that the next offense cost them $250,000. Seems excessive.

    876. Wes says:

      If you read what the Dems on RRH have to say, SDC, everything is wine and roses, and Dems will suffer not one whit because of Biden’s ever increasing unpopularity.

    877. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      890. There are things I like about the RRH site, such as the data it provides; but the commentary is often bland, and the Democrats do seem to dominate it quite often.

      HHR is more boisterous and lively, although the cat fights can get a bit irritating at times. Still it’s a more interesting group of posters.

    878. jason says:

      Why don’t you ignore all my posts, and I’ll ignore all of yours. Let’s give it a try.’

      I know you want to be able to keep posting a pack of lies without being called on it, but it’s not going to happen.

      Why don’t you GFY? Give it a try.

    879. jason says:

      Never been to RRH.

      From what I read, I wouldn’t last 5 minutes there.

    880. jason says:

      Reagan was not a GREAT president. He was just an actor and bumbling imbecile in the right place at the right time.

      Romney is a rabid racist!

      McCain was a traitor who sold out his country to get Dems applauding him for sticking it to Trump.

      Trump is the best president in my lifetime.’

      Doesn’t it feel good to come clean?

      You should try it more often.

    881. Bitterlaw says:

      I actually started to wonder if Tgca was right that I cause most of the fights here. The last few days have confirmed that this is not true. Meldrim, mnw, Wes, Jason and Tgca have battled fiercely without me.

    882. Bitterlaw says:

      Jon Gruden is an a-hole. Jon Gruden should not have resigned as coach of the Raiders.*

      *Subject to revision if worse e-mails come out. He apologized for the ones just made public.

    883. Tgca says:

      To keep the peace, I am not reading anyone’s posts here, especially Bitter’s who is the cause of most fights here.

    884. michael corleone says:

      Bitter – Gruden sounds very much like a normal dude talking in a football locker room. All of a sudden the NFL is made up of ballerinas who can’t handle tough language no worse than one would hear in any rap song (h/t Jason Whitlock).

    885. Meldrim says:

      #882, mnw, what Henry Olsen wrote is that, if Biden keeps polling this poorly, CO might be in play *for the GOP*. Notice the period after FL: “There’s a year to go and lots can change. If these numbers hold, however, the D’s will lose big. In Senate, these #s suggest loss of AZ, GA, NV and NH. No offsetting gains from marginal WI, PA, NC, FL. CO and maybe WA or OR would move into the danger zone”

    886. Tgca says:

      This one is for my good friend Jadon though he’s not allowed to read posts by others.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/ronald-reagan-cow-manure-joke/

    887. Phil says:

      Not sure why the excessive fines for rushing the field, SDC. I’ve wondered that myself. It happens in the conference to two or three schools a year. Only thing I can think of is they are trying to prevent ugly incidents from happening – our SEC fans are fanatics about their football down south. If it’s designed to prevent fans from rushing the field it isn’t exactly working. Lol

    888. Bitterlaw says:

      Years ago, Philadelphia Mayor Frank Rizzo said, “Never send a letter and never throw one away.” Just update it for e-mails.

    889. Phil says:

      The best thing Democrats have going to prevent significant Senate losses in 2022 is the Senate map. Most of the Democratic seats up are in deep blue states.

    890. mnw says:

      SDC

      I see what you mean about Henry Olsen & CO, but I don’t see how those states can be “in play” in an off-year election.

    891. Bitterlaw says:

      Lafayette-Lehigh is the most played college football rivalry. Fans from both schools always rush the field after the game. When I was a student, they had wooden goalposts. They replaced them after they realized that long pieces of wood being fought over by drunk college students was not a good idea.

      Last Saturday, Iowa fans rushed the field after beating Penn State. The main problem is that Iowa was ranked higher than Penn State and the game was in Iowa. Bad form.

    892. Meldrim says:

      mnw, I think that Bennet’s seat in CO definitely can be in play if Biden is at 38% approval. OR and WA would be tougher rows to hoe, but if Henry says that they could be in play if things stay this bad for Biden then I wouldn’t count it out. Henry is a knowledgeable and astute political analyst who predicted the GOP’s improvements with white working-class voters.

    893. mnw says:

      Meldrin

      He’s talking about 2022 & 2024 as if they were the same thing, then. As written, it’s confusing. I’ve always admired Olsen– as you know his wife was murdered on 9/11.

      Btw, Michigan; Northwestern; U of C. None are Starbucks, right? I graduated from one of them.

    894. Meldrim says:

      Yes, he’s saying that if the electoral environment is such that Biden is at 38% approval in November 2022, Democrats will receive a drubbing even though it’s a mid-term election.

      But you are confusing Henry Olsen with attorney Ted Olsen (whose wife, Barbara, died in the flight that was downed by its brave passengers near Shanksville, PA before it could proceed to DC (where the U.S. Capitol was its likely target). Henry is (or at least used to be) at the American Enterprise Institute, and he writes a column for the Washington Post (one of the very few conservatives currently published there).

      As for the law schools that you mentioned, all three are excellent (whether U. of C. refers to Chicago, California-Berkeley or Colorado-Boulder). None of them teach the science of the cappuccino. But they probably didn’t teach about the VRA back when you studied there, since it was still brand new.

    895. Meldrim says:

      BTW, I just looked it up, and the Bush v. Gore attorney was Ted Olson (with an o). But the political writer is Henry Olsen (with an e).

    896. Meldrim says:

      And my baby is traveling on this one.

    897. Cash Cow TM says:

      COVID related stories today:

      4 DRUDGE
      4 AOL News
      @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
      Based on MSM-LSD, the COVID crisis is officially over

    898. wheelz91 says:

      Barbara Olsen was on flight 77. Which went into the pentagon.

    899. lisab says:

      i think the only problem the dems think they have is that biden has been too meek

      and hasn’t made more far reaching changes to the country yet

      obama at least got obamacare, biden has very little so far

    900. Phil says:

      41/57

      20% strongly approve
      50% strongly disapprove…….. -30

      Yikes

    901. Meldrim says:

      #912, I stand corrected. I’m not sure of whom I was thinking that was on Flight 93.

    902. Gordon Allen says:

      #913.I was at the exercise facility today, and the only elliptical trainer stared straight at CNN. UGH!
      Anyway, CNN had a number of commentators on who 100% attributed Biden’s polling free fall to his inability to get his 3.5 Trillion Dollar agenda through. I kid you not. You’re correct.
      BTW CNN showed a 45-50 % Approval/Disapproval rate for Biden.
      My take is that if CNN is at 45 % then Biden’s approval really is likely in the low 40’s.

    903. jason says:

      Also Barbara Olsen was married to Ted Olson, Solicitor General at the time, not Henry Olson.

      If this was bait, ok, I took it.

    904. Phil says:

      Agree, Gordon. Biden is in the low 40s actually.

      As far as attributing his meager polling numbers to failure to pass the 3.5 trillion mega spending bill that’s utterly ridiculous. Their own polling shows he is collapsing among indies, not Democrats.

    905. mnw says:

      908 Meldrin

      Not only have I never had any experience with the VRA, I never had any civil experience AT ALL in 35+ years– except for the occasional, and rare, civil forfeiture.

      When someone asks me about living wills, I advise them to kill it.

      Chicago, btw.

    906. Cash Cow TM says:

      Anti Manchin ads now running in WV.

      Group funded by the evil basted George Soros.

    907. Cash Cow TM says:

      Should be Evil Bastard.

    908. mnw says:

      This has likely already been posted, but just in case…

      RAS tracking poll today has Biden’s strongly appv/strongly disaprv at 20/50– that’s -30!

      Too funny.

      920 Cow

      I’m sure THAT will change Manchin’s mind.

      Btw, I saw a photo of the NC Lt Gov yesterday. He can honest-to-God give Gov. Justice a run for his money– when these men travel by helicopter… it’s in a cargo net.

    909. DW says:

      Karate Chop Kasich is arguably the dumbest person on the planet…having assured 2020 voters that Biden would not go hard left. He is so dumb, he should move to West Virginia so he can spend the rest of his days voting for Manchin.

    910. Tgca says:

      I am not reading any posts here but for some reason I am feeling compelled to comment on Barbara Olson, wife of Ted Olson who was Bush solicitor general and ironically was one one of the lead attorneys that later pushed for gay marriage and became a hero in the gay community. Barbara was on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon.

      I used to watch her on Crossfire in the 90s. She was one of my favorite commentators and was a very articulate bright attractive woman who spent a good deal of her conservative commentary trashing the Clintons and their unethical behavior.

      There is a sad story behind this tragedy. She delayed her flight back to CA to be with her husband on his birthday and that’s how she ended up on the crashed plane. She also was able to call her husband and leave a message before their plane crashed.

      Ironically, the plane that crashed into the Pentagon also killed the husband of a good college friend of mine. I last saw him at his wedding in 1990 I believe before I moved to Caleefawnyuh.

    911. Tgca says:

      924

      This is a correction to myself since I’m not reading others emails and they should not read mine.

      I believe she actually talked to her husband in the 1st call.

    912. mnw says:

      DW

      Good to see you. Pls post more often.

      What do see in the VA gov race?

    913. Tgca says:

      So here’s a thought to share with myself.

      I often have this thought and having it again today thinking of Barbara Olson.

      Her husband Ted later remarried. So does it cause marital conflict for him to remember his 1st wife in the 9/11 anniversary or is it something to leave in the past? Does he travel to participate in 9/11 ceremony? If so, does he take the new wife and how does that make her feel?

      If you believe in God and and Heaven and reconnection, does the husband go back to his 1st wife when they reunite and say adios to the 2nd wife or does he say nice to see you again to 1st wifey but stays with 2nd wife or do they have a three way relationship?

      I never got a good response to this over the years. I know it’s complicated but is the 2nd wife just filler for the 1st wife or does she replace her?

      This is addressed a bit in the Tom Hanks movie Cast Away where he’s missing for years, believed dead in a plane crash but then comes back home to a remarried wife who can’t leave her family to reunite with him.

    914. Cash Cow TM says:

      Went with Walt to take both of the cats to the vet for annual checkup.

      We had to wait in the car an extra 1/2 hour because they said one of the customers before us, they had to do an unexpected “Youth In Asia”.

      What do kids in Asia have to do with holding Walt up?

      *************************************
      Anyway, the trip to and from in the car the cats both got “A” grades.

      At the vets office, both got “F”s.
      THEY WERE AWFUL. And uncharacteristically MEAN!

      No shots this time, but still cost $126.50.
      Walt said that turns out to be about $8/pound.

      ************************************************
      They did give the Cow a complementary mini hay bale…

    915. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Rasmussen poll of Fauci favorability:

      41% Favorable
      45% Unfavorable

    916. Cash Cow TM says:

      DW,

      WE NEED YOUR VIEW ON THE VA ELECTION RACES!

    917. Tina says:

      This is going to get uglier soon.

      Josh Caplan
      @joshdcaplan
      · 1h
      CNBC: Record 4.3 million workers quit their jobs in August

    918. jason says:

      Good point

      Clay Travis:

      “Every rapper the NFL has performing at the Super Bowl has more offensive lyrics than Jon Gruden had in his emails. How does the NFL reconcile the difference in treatment? These are questions all sports media would be asking if they were real journalists.”

    919. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @Rasmussen_Poll

      @POTUS
      just tied Trump’s all-time highest “Strongly Disapprove” at 50.

    920. jason says:

      I am only reading the posts written by compulsive liars, idiots, woke morons, trolls and scumbags.

      The others I am just perusing.

    921. DW says:

      Youngkin will get the most legitimate votes in the VA Gov race. But he will not be declared the ‘winner.’ I have seen this movie so many times before and it always ends the same way.

      The Marxists always wait until all the red areas of the state have reported in, and then they will manufacture what they need to push McAwful and the other Dems over the top.

    922. Wobbles says:

      just tied Trump’s all-time highest “Strongly Disapprove” at 50.”

      False equivalency.

      Those that disapproved of Trump were all people of upstanding moral values who expressed their conscience.

      Those that disapprove of Biden are ignorant deplorables who have been paid off by right wing dark money sources to say they disapprove.

    923. jason says:

      The Marxists always wait until all the red areas of the state have reported in, and then they will manufacture what they need to push McAwful and the other Dems over the top.”

      Really? Funny, I read here that if you just stay the course and keep voting R that these problems will all go away by the next election.

      I guess you can’t believe everything you read here.

      Who knew?

    924. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      RCPolling average of Biden’s job approval:

      43.0% Approve
      52.3% Disapprove -9.3

      An unmitigated disaster.

    925. Tina says:

      Wobbles, the dark sources are from Russia, right?

      You forgot that.

      -Jebot

    926. Meldrim says:

      mnw, I’m a corporate lawyer myself, so I have no experience in any type of litigation. I have read opinions from quite a few VRA cases, though.

      The University of Chicago is one of the best law schools in the nation, and it has more top-notch conservatives in its faculty than probably any other school. Much better than Starbucks Law. : )

    927. Tgca says:

      This post is for my eyes only and not for others to read.

      NY Judge Grants Injunction Against COVID Vaccine Mandate for Healthcare Workers

      …in other words, GFY NY Gubbernor because this is likely unconstitutional.


      A federal judge ruled Tuesday that New York must continue to allow healthcare workers to seek exemptions from a statewide COVID-19 vaccine mandate on religious grounds as a lawsuit challenging the requirement proceeds.

      …means New York will continue to be barred from enforcing any requirement that employers deny religious exemptions.

      … healthcare workers suing the state were likely to succeed on the merits of their constitutional claim.

      Unlike other judges who have heard similar cases about vaccine mandates, Hurd concluded “the public interest lies with enforcing the guarantees enshrined in the Constitution and federal anti-discrimination law” and not the wider public health

      https://www.newsmax.com/us/vaccine-mandate-healthcare-workers-new-york/2021/10/12/id/1040170/

    928. jason says:

      Texas Governor bars private businesses from the “freedom” to be fascists.

      HHR fascists hardest hit.

    929. Cash Cow TM says:

      When is the last time that the MSM-LSD did a prime time “exposee” on covering the border crisis?

      60 minutes, 20/20, 6 and 7 o’clock news, etc….

      NOT doing so is journalistic malpractice.
      ##################################################

      Covering:

      –the harm done to the ranches, persons, land and property owned by Americans living within ten miles of the border of the illegal hordes

      –the enrichment and tacit approval of favoring open borders and giving support and financial enrichment to the murderous drug lords in the extortion money they get from each person in the horde and further destabilizing Mexico

      –the human trafficking angle

      –the sex trafficking angle

      –the cost in human life that result from horrific vehicle accidents where dozens of illegals in the same vehicle die in crashes when they also wreck into and kill Americans as they are further illegally transported away from the border

      –the cost to the U.S. taxpayers in providing for the millions of illegals (health care, housing, feeding, schooling, public assistance, etc.)

      –the increased costs required by local U.S. counties that border Mexico.

      –the heath safety issue of unvetted millions streaming in

      –the national security issue of dangerous, unvetted whack-a-doodles crossing into U.S.

      –the increase in crime in the U.S. issue

      –the impact of the increase in the drug smuggling that disables and kills many tens of thousands in America

      –the impact on those who want to come here LEGALLY when these millions a year illegally jump ahead of them

      *****************************************

      To all the people who think only with their heart in wanting to “help others” who want to get into the U.S. by having open borders…WELL, HERE IS YOUR SIGN!

      (pretend this below is a hand)

      ../\..

      or maybe this is better F…Y.. sign

      ..!..

      **********************************
      AND

      LET’S GO BRAN-DON!

    930. mnw says:

      Meldrin

      1) I certainly agree, but I did say I went to ONE of the three.

      I’ve read a lot about the VRA over the years, i.e. whenever an article explains why a redistricting plan has been overturned due to it. I’m familiar with some of the criteria that seem to be mentioned most often– discriminatory intent, compactness, racial dilution, etc. Those same criteria seem to come up in non-VRA cases also.

      2) On another topic, in her book “Rigged,” which is getting lots of publicity right now (only on the right, of course), Mollie Hemingway doesn’t say the election was stolen. Most people seem to assume that’s what she said.

      What she actually says is that the pandemic provided an opportunity for DEMs and their allies in big tech and the media to manipulate state election procedures in multiple ways that benefitted Biden. She uses the word “seized,” not “stolen.”

    931. jason says:

      HHR fascists to whine “big government’ is preventing businesses from “running their own businesses”, i.e., by imposing discriminatory and fascist “show me your papers” to enter. HHR fascist will be disappointed that in the future, businesses might not be allowed to exercise their “freedom’ to require anyone to prove they never voted Republican or never used a racist term or never told an ethnic joke.

      Horrors!

    932. jason says:

      ‘opportunity for DEMs and their allies in big tech and the media to manipulate state election procedures in multiple ways that benefitted Biden. She uses the word “seized,” not “stolen.”

      I think this is true in the sense that for example legislators in GA and PA agreed to implement changes that made fraud a lot easier. That was “manipulation”.

      But the fact actual fraud then occurred as a result means it was stolen, I don’t know any other word for it. Although I suppose “seizing an election” is as bad as stealing it.

      If I come into your house and seize your property, are you going to feel better than if I came in and stole it.

    933. Tgca says:

      This is a private message to myself and not for others to read.

      Finally gaining some ground on the vaccine fascists with these lawsuits but it will take another month or so before they make their way to more courts.

      Even Snow White is wise to this potentially dangerous vax for many.

      I thay put all these restaurants requiring vax proof out of business! Protest their restaurants! Let them feel the heat!

      The vaccinated are spreading Covid. That is a scientific fact admitted to by the CDC, W.H.O. and the grossly incompetent Dr. Fow-chee so to allow them access but not the unvaccinated is discrimination.

      Anyone that supports vax proof to secure basic services is a FASCIST! No if’s, buts, or ans about it!

      How is a “non-vax not welcomed” notice by restaurants any different then “blacks not welcome” or “no Jews” notices by restaurants of the past? There is absolutely NO difference because they are both based on the same stereotypical mistruths that include that it is a health risk to eat around certain groups of people.

      I for one think any business that willfully complies should forever be remembered. The gubbermint made me do it is not an excuse. Many places refuse to follow the rules so those that do should forever pay a price in my view.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/vaccine-snow-white.jpg

    934. Tgca says:

      Note to myself that some minorities at HHR support fascist ideology.

      One cannot be a conservative and support fascist ideology. It is completely incompatible.

      Perhaps we should start denying them access because of their minority status as well because what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

      If Latinos can deny food and services to the unvaccinated, then food and services should be denied to Latinos.

      If gays can deny food and services to the unvaccinated, then food and services should be denied to gays as well.

      If unvaccinated should prove they’re vaccinated, then gays should prove they don’t have HIV to enter a restaurant or mall as well.

      Since certain minorities are more likely than not to have higher incidences of certain diseases than other groups, they should have to provide proof they’re not infected as well to enter certain businesses.

      So if minorities wish to discriminate against others, discrimination against them also should be a personal choice for businesses.

    935. jason says:

      If I had read Tgca’s posts on fascist businesses I would have agreed with him.

    936. jason says:

      Cow makes good points on immigration, sorry I didn’t read them.

      NYC to declare WE ARE WINNING in 3, 2, 1…..

    937. DW says:

      “How is a “non-vax not welcomed” notice by restaurants any different then “blacks not welcome” or “no Jews” notices by restaurants of the past?”

      Especially given there are people out there with unique conditions whose doctors have forbid them from getting the vaccine for covid. I personally know of one such person.

      And don’t forget the classic “NINA” (no Irish need apply)

    938. jason says:

      It’s not any different.

      Fascism is fascism.

    939. Tina says:

      Election Wizard
      @ElectionWiz
      ·
      13m
      A federal judge in New York has issued a preliminary injunction for all health care workers against the state’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate. Judge finds the state’s mandate conflicts with workers’ religious rights under federal law and the First Amendment.

    940. jason says:

      The argument made by the HHR fascists is that “if you are discriminated against you can go elsewhere”.

      That really worked out well in Nazi Germany, didn’t it.

      It’s kind of telling blacks in 1960 that if they don’t want to sit in the back of the bus, they have the “freedom” to take a taxi.

    941. Tgca says:

      This is a note to myself and not intended for others so p,ease don’t read. This will assist me so I remember the details of why people think Dr. Fow-chee is a f*ckin moron and should be fired.

      Folks were asked their opinion on this statement.

      “Fauci has lost all credibility with the American people. We aren’t waiting on his permission to celebrate Christmas together.”

      The response was 54%, 36% and 11% rounded, respectively for agreed, disagreed, not sure.

      That’s an 18% definitive gap between agreed and disagreed. That is UUUUGE!

      Further, 74%and 54% of GOP and indys, respectively, were aligned which spells bad news for Biden and team on their vaccine propaganda.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/10/12/poll-most-americans-say-anthony-fauci-has-lost-credibility/

    942. DW says:

      954 – jason you are making too much sense. You didn’t get the memo that we are now in a world where sense is nonsense, nonsense is sense, dementia is wisdom, and wisdom is dementia.

    943. Bitterlaw says:

      Despite our differences, can we at least agree that Tgca’s gimmick of posting only to himself is already tired and played out?

    944. Tgca says:

      Just to remind myself, and not intended for others, I will fight to my dying breath against a vax mandate. When they can show me the vax is safe for all or can isolate high risks cases that should consider risk before taking it, then I’ll consider supporting this vax.

      Thousands have died shortly after the vax, many of them otherwise healthy, and many more have reported serious health issues per VAERs and we’re not sure if it’s just coincidence or not but we haven’t seen such issues with other vaxes recently and that should be a red flag.

      These vaxes have been recommended only for certain high risk Covid groups in certain countries due to the reports of damages to younger healthy people taking them. One western country has recently changed its protocol to not vaccinate anyone under 30.

      There have been no long term studies on these vaxes and we do not know the long-term health risks associated with certain health issues because they’re not studied.

      We also know the scientists were WRONG on the length of time the vax provides protection. Some countries have reported a reduction of 50% in certain age groups after 6 months.

      Many medical professionals, including those who have had Covid are refusing the vaxes. In fact, the highest educational group of unvaccinated are PHD levels. This is very telling when large number of medical professionals who are treating or dealing with Covid refuse the vax themselves.

      Fascists can continue to try and push this but I will not give into those and risk my health because many people just do what they’re told to do by gubbermint folks who can’t answer basic questions about the vax.

      If one wishes to take the vax to reduce their risk, good for them but don’t try and force this on the rest of us, especially for a disease that has a mortality for most less than .3% or where people can otherwise mitigate their risk.

    945. jason says:

      Amoral Scumbag hardest hit.

      “House Budget Committee Chairman John Yarmuth announced Tuesday that he will retire from Congress after 16 years in office.”

    946. jason says:

      I will agree that since you said that, he will keep doing it.

    947. jason says:

      You didn’t get the memo that we are now in a world where sense is nonsense, nonsense is sense, dementia is wisdom, and wisdom is dementia.”

      No, I was just told that if I keep voting R, this is all fleeting just a normal political cycle.

    948. Tgca says:

      Note to myself to remind others they can skip posts of certain posters if they wish. I do that to a few posters here so others are welcomed to do so as well. This will remind myself to keep the peace more whereas some might come here just to fight because not much else in their life is going on.

    949. Wobbles says:

      Remember when I said retirements by GOP House members spelled doom for the party?

      I lied.

    950. jason says:

      Personally, I am entertained by morons.

      So I read all the posts here.

      Sue me.

    951. jason says:

      I think it is discriminatory not to read some posts but read others.

      Morons, scumbags, compulsive liars, trolls, idiots, deadenders are all people too.

    952. Tina says:

      Breaking

      Southwest Airlines CEO Says No Employees Will Be Fired Over Vaccine Mandate

    953. jason says:

      CBS poll

      McAuliffe 50 Youngkin 47

    954. Phil says:

      Seems about right. Probably a 2 or 3 pt spread on Election Day. Northern Virginia is just so damned blue.

    955. DW says:

      Phil, its what they say the results will be. But in the end, Youngkin will get more legitimate votes than McAwful. This CBS poll helps give them cover for the production of ballots. Here in the Tidewater area, Youngkin signs are everywhere and it is hard to find a McAwful sign. The local black caucus has endorsed Youngkin. But again, the map could look like 80% to 20%, Youngkin leading with 90% of the vote in statewide, but with 70% of Northern VA still not reported, and suddenly, they will declare McAwful the winner by a couple of points. I have been watching the same movie for 15 years now, and it always ends the same.

    956. mnw says:

      Another one bites the dust:

      Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) announced today that he wants to spend more time with the fam. He’s the House Budget Committee Chairman. His seat was a top GOP target, even before his announcement

      That makes appx 19 DEMs leaving so far– appx 8 by retirement & appx 11 who’ve announced they’re leaving to seek higher office.

      And the evening is still young!

      Meldrin

      KY has a situation with redistricting much like MO– whether to go all out to flip Yarmouth’s Louisville seat, thereby making the entire state delegation Republican (sound familiar?), or to play it safe for the sake of GOP incumbent protection.

      McConnell has warned against drawing an aggressive map in KY which could be overturned by the courts. I guess this kind of thing is going on in every state where one party has the power to work its will on the other.

      Btw, Yarmuth is not vert old & has only served in Congress for 10 years. In short, he’s jumping while being pushed.

    957. Phil says:

      I don’t think Yarmuth is worried about losing his seat. It would take an unusually aggressive gerrymander to carve up that district and it would invite the courts to get involved considering the racial makeup of the Louisville constituency. I think the guy is flat out retiring simply because he does not want to be in the minority again. He’s been there before, and he can see the handwriting on the wall. He can read polls and knows the House is gone.

      This is just another indication that Democrats know which way the political winds are blowing.

    958. Meldrim says:

      #970, mnw, you read my mind re: how similar the KY-03 situation is to the one in MO-05. The KY-03 is 68.6% white and 21.4% black, so its demographics are a tiny bit whiter than in the MO-05; the VRA will not be a problem. I did some back-of-the-envelope calculations, and there’s no reason why Republicans can’t split Louisville’s Jefferson County into two districts that each gave Trump around 56%, particularly if black neighborhoods in Louisville are kept together (and connected to rural GOP counties to the SW and W). I do recall Cocaine Mitch warning against trying to split Louisville for a 6R-0D delegation, but I think that his concern was the Democrat governor vetoing the bill, and then the courts getting to draw the districts, than for the courts to strike down the 6-0 map as a racial or partisan gerrymander.

    959. Phil says:

      Retirements are pretty much the leading indicator of a House flip when they are overwhelmingly occurring on one side. That was the case in the year leading up to the 2018 flip and it is the case in 2021.

    960. Meldrim says:

      Phil, the KY-03 is only 21.4% black. It’s not a VRA district, so retrogression is not an issue, and the courts wouldn’t be able to strike down the map if black neighborhoods were kept together (and connected to rural GOP counties to the SW and W). See my post #972.

    961. Phil says:

      I didn’t realize Kentucky 3 was only 21% black. If that’s the case it seems redistricting that seat would be entirely possible without the Courts saving that Democratic seat.

    962. Phil says:

      In fact, it seems foolish for Republicans in the overwhelming Republican legislature not to get that seat.

      I say go for it.

    963. Meldrim says:

      As for Yarmouth, I don’t think that he’s retiring because he’s afraid of losing his seat to a Republican (the legislature hasn’t indicated that it’s willing to split Jeffco, and McConnell has warned against it, plus the governor is a Democrat), although he may be feeling pressure from his black Leftist primary opponent, Attica Scott (yes, her parents named her after the prison riot). If the district stays entirely within Jeffco, then the Democrat primary winner almost certainly will win the general, even if it’s a good GOP year. State Senate Minority Leader Morgan McGarvey already announced that he’s running, and Yarmouth has said that he won’t endorse unless his son, journalist Aaron Yarmouth, runs for the seat. Aaron is thinking about it, but if he jumps in I think that he’ll split the white vote with McGarvey and allow Attica Scott to win with under 40% (there’s no run-off in KY).

    964. Meldrim says:

      #976, I agree. And I just read that Republicans can override the governor’s veto with a simple majority in each house, so the Democrats can’t just run interference and have the courts draw the maps, as I had feared. So I would tell McConnell that I considered his advice, but will draw a 6-0 congressional map anyhow.

    965. Phil says:

      Yeah, make it 6-0 in this very Republican state. No different than the Democrats shutting out Republicans in Massachusetts over the last two census cycles.

      I mean, if Illinois Democrats are going to gerrymander the hell out of Illinois this cycle dropping representation down to 3 seats there then it’s time to play hardball.

    966. Tina says:

      Josh Caplan
      @joshdcaplan
      ·
      7m
      REUTERS: Twitter says no signs Rep. Maxine Waters’ account was hacked
      Quote Tweet

      Maxine Waters
      @RepMaxineWaters
      · 6h
      I have been hacked and my Twitter account has been erased. I know who has done this. I will take care of this. M Waters.

    967. jason says:

      Carlos Danger stands by Maxine.

    968. jason says:

      Pravda would be proud.

      Nancy Pelosi Scolds Reporters for Not Selling ‘Build Back Better’ Effectively

    969. Cash Cow TM says:

      “I have been hacked and my Twitter account has been erased. I know who has done this. I will take care of this. M Waters.”

      Probably was done by that damned Brandon.

      “LET’S GO BRAN-DON!”
      ******************************************
      Or maybe what Maxine Waters wrote was”
      “I am a hack and my Twitter account has been erased…”

    970. Cash Cow TM says:

      WV legislature is in special session this week to do state redistricting and to make the congressional district lines shrink from current 3 to become just 2.
      *************************************************
      I think they already passed the House of Delegates new districts. Which for THE FIRST TIME will be 100 SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS!

      NO MORE MULTI-MEMBER DISTRICTS.

      WHOOT, WHOOT!

    971. jason says:

      Rep. Jared Huffman
      @RepHuffman
      FACT CHECK: The #BuildBackBetterAct costs us $0.00.

      It’s going to be paid for by making sure billionaires and corporations finally pay their taxes.”

      Fact check.

      It it costs nothing, why does it have to be paid for.

    972. mnw says:

      Meldrin

      When we discussed your proposed MO map, had you already factored in that the GOP’s first priority, before they even think about Cleaver, will be to add Republican voters to MO-02 to help Wagner? They want to shore up that district.

      Seems as if adding GOP voters to MO-02 would shift all the districts to the east.

    973. mnw says:

      Yarmuth is 73– much older than I had remembered, altho still a spring chicken to Walt & me.