Two More VA Polls – One Has Youngkin Up By 1% and One has McAuliffe Up By 3%

    Two polls that wrapped up today show a split result with Research Co giving Glenn Youngkin a single-percentage-point lead while Targoz Market Research shows Terry McAuliffe with a 3% edge.

    GOVERNOR – VIRGINIA (Research Co)
    Glenn Youngkin (R) 49%
    Terry McAuliffe (D) 48%

    Terry McAuliffe (D) 50%
    Glenn Youngkin (R) 47%

    The positive side for Youngkin is when viewing these two polls, the Research Co poll started yesterday while the Targoz MR poll goes back to last Tuesday as a starting date. The Research CO poll was done October 31 – November 1 among 450 likely voters while the Targoz MR poll was done October 26-November 1 among 747 likely voters. If you believe the late movement is towards Youngkin, then the Research Co is likely more accurate.

    Posted by Dave at 10:11 pm
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    274 Responses to “Two More VA Polls – One Has Youngkin Up By 1% and One has McAuliffe Up By 3%”

    1. SanDiegoCitizen says:


    2. Scooterboy says:

      BASTARDS !!!!

      That comment is not directed at anyone in particular.
      Since it appears everyone is fighting tonight, I figured I’d get in on the fun.

    3. jason says:

      You can see Scooter is feeling frisky and is relieved Kim is not pursuing her suit.

    4. jason says:

      Isn’t Targoz like a joke?

    5. Bitterlaw says:

      Welcome back, Scooter. It is always good to see you post. I know it makes Dave happy so he can apply for Federal funding to run the site when a disabled person shows up. GFY

    6. Bitterlaw says:

      I do get copies of my book that I can sell or give away on my own. I will donate a copy to the A-hole Clubhouse library. It has been empty ever since MD removed his collection of drink recipes that he got from Grey Goose,

    7. jason says:

      I contributed a few llama husbandry books.

    8. jason says:

      Also a Quechua-English dictionary.

    9. Phil says:

      Targoz is an online poll.

      They were very accurate predicting the Georgia run off
      Senate races.

      They don’t do a whole lot of political polling….and shouldn’t.

      Pennsylvania….had Biden winning by 14…Biden won by 1.

      Michigan…..had Biden winning by 12…Biden won by 2.

      Florida……had Biden winning by 3.5….Trump won by 3.4.

      Ky Gov…..had Beshear winning by 19….he won by 0.35

      No legit pollster misses by those kinds of margins.

    10. jason says:

      Like I said, a joke.

    11. jason says:

      They lucked out in GA because it seems they always pick the Dems to win.

    12. Chicon says:

      On his next birthday, will Wes be seven? Or eight?

    13. mnw says:

      Deathbed conversion 2nite:

      RRH moves VA guv all the way from “Leans D” to “Leans R.” Skipped “Toss-up” altogether.

      The Wise Men realized they were about to look more foolish than usual. Anybody who thinks that place really has a “right perspective” hasn’t been paying attention for a long time. I don’t think it EVER did.

      They just so want to be petted & praised by the cool kids… on the left.

      It seems like every news/media outlet in America slides left over time.

    14. Victrc says:

      I’m trying my best not to get too excited about the potential for a Va win…but find myself tantalized 😉

      Which leads me to ask, what does this bode for 2022, especially if there is no “reconciliation” bill passed and “progressives” go off the rails.

      Interesting to ponder….

    15. Bitterlaw says:

      I think the biggest potential wildcard in 2022 is the Texas abortion law. If SCOTUS strikes it down, the effect is limited. If SCOTUS upholds it, all hell breaks loose and every close election in the House and Senate becomes dominated by abortion.

    16. mnw says:

      Roll Call (“Covering Capitol Hill Since 1955”) changed VA guv from “Tilts DEM” to “Leans R” tonight.

      Almost seems like… a pattern, or something, doesn’t it?

    17. mnw says:

      3000 (!) at Youngkin’s final rally in Loudoun County tonite, at the VA state fairgrounds.

      puppet show
      Terry McAuliffe

    18. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A liberal professor is outraged that people are attacking Biden because he took a snooze at the Glasgow climate conference — a meeting that liberals believe is crucial for the survival of humanity on the planet:

      “Professor Jane Hall, school of communication at the American University and author of Politics and the Media: Intersections and New Directions, expressed concern that the reporters covering the actual event focused too much on Biden’s gaffe.

      “The thing that strikes me is that you don’t have to be a fan of President Biden to have been taken back by how the reporter from The Washington Post made the story about this moment, and how Fox News jumped on it,” she explained in a phone interview on Monday afternoon. “The stakes at this climate conference couldn’t be more consequential, but the focus now seems to be all about Biden nodding off.”

      Hall said this was just the latest example of confirmation bias in politics.

      “Yes, he nodded off, and the media jumped on ‘Sleepy Joe,’ but he is 78-years old and likely has jetlag,” explained Hall. “We should be worried that this has gotten so much attention. Part of it is the polarization we see on social media, which of course leads to clicks. What is disturbing about this is that it is just such a small part of what should be an enormous story given the importance of this conference.””

      To the Biden Administration’s credit, they now have a staffer whose job is to be near Biden and wake him up whenever he falls asleep at a meeting.

    19. mnw says:


      When liberals are accusing the WaPo of being anti-Biden…

      And some people think pigs can’t fly.

    20. Meldrim says:

      Let me join those congratulating Bitter on the publication of his first novel. Bitter not only outclasses lisab in educational attainment, now he also outperforms her in the fine arts. Lisab does know more than Bitter about jobs that pay you for 52 weeks despite only working like 36, though (and about all things gay).

    21. Wes says:

      Heh. TMac told a lie so egregious WaPo slapped it down. When a Democrat loses WaPo, it’s the kiss of death:

    22. Wes says:

      I can’t wait to read the Wednesday morning post mortems desperately trying to divorce TMac’s loss as an isolated event unconnected to Biden’s increasingly poor polling, Mnw.

      Three thousand for Youngkin is great, especially in Loudoun, where he needs to do well to offset the effect of the rest of NoVA.

    23. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Perhaps we should change Biden’s nickname from “Sleepy Joe” to “Sleeping Joe”

      “O’Donnell added to the liberal MSNBC audience that Biden has stressed the importance of the climate change meetings that might have put him to sleep.

      “A moment like that in a session, can be a political obstacle,” O’Donnell said before attempting damage control.”

    24. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      75.9% of American voters familiar with chants “F–k Joe Biden” and alternate “Let’s Go Brandon” say #LetsGoBrandon is an appropriate way to protest the Biden Administration.

      #poll conducted 10/22-24.

    25. Pitchaboy says:

      The Asian population in the US are in general, well educated high earners who are family oriented people. They should naturally be attracted to the Republicans, yet, most of them vote Democrat. One of the big reasons is their deep distrust of overt and covert white bigots like Wes. This is not the first time he has chosen to distort my record here. He went on lying about my not honoring a bet with MD, much after I had given my private email ID to MD to settle it. It is best guys like him are kept at a safe distance.

    26. Wes says:

      Wow, Pitch. You’re just a parody at this point. Seriously? Calling me a white bigot was the best you could come up with? You’re clearly still crying because I called you out for invariably being wrong, but, hey, I encourage you to keep on. I honestly laugh when I see you soiling your diaper and throwing a temper tantrum on here.

      Please continue. I’m loving the unintentional comedy.

      As far as MD, he’s the one who claimed you didn’t honor your bet with him. Take it up with him if the information I’m relaying from him is incorrect.

    27. jason says:

      8AM exit polls look good for Youngkin.

    28. Pitchaboy says:

      Frankly Wes, you had to steal the diaper line from me. Have you any originality man? Can’t expect better from trailer trash like you.

    29. jason says:

      “Chicon says:
      November 1, 2021 at 11:19 pm

      On his next birthday, will Wes be seven? Or eight?”

      Meldrim says:
      November 2, 2021 at 12:40 am
      Let me join those congratulating Bitter on the publication of his first novel. Bitter not only outclasses lisab in educational attainment, now he also outperforms her in the fine arts. Lisab does know more than Bitter about jobs that pay you for 52 weeks despite only working like 36″

      HHR is a tough place even when I am not here.

    30. jason says:

      Can’t expect better from trailer trash like you”

      I would give wes a couple points if he was an A-hole.

    31. Phil says:

      Has FOX called the race for McAuliffe yet?

    32. Wes says:

      Once again you’re a parody, Pitch. Are you not understanding you’re not bothering me with your tantrums?

      I keep telling you I’m laughing at you and inviting you to continue, and you keep looking more and more like a fool.

      You can get over the fact that I mocked you for all your wrong predictions or not as you like, but it should be clear to you since you’re the one who insists on whining on here even when I’m either not here or don’t mention you in my posts, I’m not the one bothered by any of this. It’s you.

      I’m going to be honest with you. The more you keep acting like a child and making ridiculous claims like calling me a white bigot–with its attendant irony since YOU mentioned MY race while I’ve never said a word about yours–I’m just going to keep mocking you and laughing at you.

      Take that as you will.

    33. Bitterlaw says:

      Good thing Wes is not an A-hole. He would be raking in the points. Jason and I have not scored any on this thread.

    34. jason says:

      At Predictit the Dems are saying the rain in VA will help the Dems, since they banked a lot of votes.

      Rs are saying Youngkin voters are more motivated and will vote anyway, but Dem turnout will be lower.

      Take your pick.

    35. Wes says:

      So I’m a white bigot and trailer trash now according to Pitch.

      Can we get another stereotypical race-based attack from the forever wrong Pitchaboy on here?

      It’s probably coming.

    36. jason says:

      I will have a south central PA voting report soon after I drive by some polling places on the way to the UPS store.

    37. Wes says:

      Things are bad for Democrats in a Biden +10 state when they have to hope the rain saves them.

    38. Bitterlaw says:

      I nominate Wes for Honorary A-hole for the points he would have earned on this thread if he was an A-hole.

    39. Tina says:

      No mean tweets though.


      They call Biden “consumer” now?

    40. Wes says:

      I’m a more generic form of a-hole than the one Gary Maxwell created for you and MD, Bitter.

    41. Wes says:

      They probably meant to call him a con man, Tina. Autocorrect just changed it to consumer.

    42. Phil says:

      Wes, what’s your prediction for Va. today? Apologies if I missed it already.

    43. Bitterlaw says:

      My town replaced the voting machines that worked fine with scanners that are annoying. I had to go back to get my reading glasses to see the boxes I had to fill in. Biggest race is School Board where Republicans hope to replace 4 Dems. It is a very organized effort.

    44. Wes says:

      I’m siding with Jason on this, Phil: Youngkin by 52-47-1.

    45. DW says:

      While I want Youngkin to win, I will still stick with my prediction that in the end, northern VA suddenly drops just enough votes, after 99% reported in, just enough to give McAwful the narrow ‘win’

      I have seen this movie over and over, and until a Republican actually claims victory in a VA statewide election, and the dem concedes defeat, I will not believe it.

    46. Wes says:

      Honestly, DW, I think TMac is too far gone for NoVA to save him with votes phantom or otherwise.

    47. Tgca says:


      How does Bitter outclass LisaB in educational attainment?

      I thought they both have graduate degrees?

      Good for Bitter for being published. I hope his book does well so he can buy more sweaters and take me to dinner when he visits Floreedah.

      Without significant sales, being published is not attainment of success or knowledge as many activists and entertainers are published, and many people self publish too. I have a hardcover book from an acquaintance who published the life story of their grandfather, a person of color, who came to the US and achieved success despite the odds against him at that time in the early 20th century. At last recollection, they sold less than 10 copies of the book.

      This is not a slight on Bitter because I think Bitter has achieved more education than most but instead it is a critique of a stoopid comment by Meldrim to try and put down LisaB.

      I know a number of people who have published articles or contributed to books in their field. I myself am a co-author of an industry technical guide that’s been out for a decade and used by hundreds in the industry but it really means nothing of great consequence to society. I had a number of professors that authored technical guides as well.

      So congrats to Bitter fir his personal achievement but Meldrim looks stoopid with his comment, and this after I was going to acknowledge Meldrim’s 1876 election post last night that schooled Wes on the details of that election.

    48. Phil says:

      Love the optimism, Wes. I can’t get a handle on it myself. On one hand, the Baris Poll gives me optimism as does the the Insider Advantage Poll (they were pretty solid in Georgia). Also, watching McAuliffe’s actions on the campaign trail over the last two weeks can’t be indicative of a confident campaign. On the negative side is the fact that it is still Blue Virginia. McAullife needs a good sized Democratic turnout to,make up for his obvious slippage with indies. Question is whether he has succeeded in scaring Democrats to the polls by tying Youngkin to white nationalism. Doesn’t work with indies as it is ridiculous on its face but we are dealing with Democrats here. Then, of course, there will be the fraud in Northern Virginia and Richmond.

      I’m just not sure either way.

    49. Tgca says:


      You should file a lawsuit. Evidently those machines are meant to disenfranchise you because you require reading glasses.

      If I did not have lasik surgery years back myself, I would be disenfranchised by a voting machine requiring reading glasses.

      What if you went to the polling 10 minutes before closing. You’d be SOL without getting a judge to extend voting time to go get your glasses. I’m sure many have this same concern.

    50. DW says:

      I get it Wes…I really do. But when you live here, and you are like Charlie Brown, election after election, trying to kick the football, and you really think you are going to do it, but each time Lucy pulls it away at the last second, I just decided right at the outset that I will believe it when I see the football flying through the air. Youngkin has been a great candidate and it seems like a perfect storm, but Northern Virginia Lucy is still holding the ball.

    51. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Election Rigging, anyone? Here is a classic example of it courtesy of NBC News at last night’s Youngkin rally in Loudon County, VA.

    52. jason says:

      There is a news scandal against Youngkin. Supposedly among the 3000 people at his rally there was a guy with a confederate flag sewn to his jacket.

      Of course, to be fair to the MSM, if somebody with an antifa or communist logo attended a McAuliffe rally, they would be all over it.

    53. Tina says:

      I will be sidelined for the rest of the day. Got my booster China Virus vax yesterday and I am under the weather today.

    54. Tgca says:


      Oh no! Tina’s been poisoned. Call 911 ASAP.

    55. Phil says:

      ‘‘Northern Virginia Lucy is still holding the ball”

      Sadly, that’s true. Will it be enough? I guess that’s the question.

    56. Tina says:

      Yes, the media found two white supremacists in the crowd,

      They show no faces, so those folks cannot be id’d.

      Amazing that they both have new jackets with a new confederate flag patch too.

      Was the Pedo Project also,responsible for this too?

    57. Meldrim says:

      Tgca, if you believe that “all graduate degrees are the same” and that a JD is not a greater educational attainment than some MA, then Good For You!

    58. Tgca says:


      So a JD is greater attainment than an MS in physics or computer science or electrical engineering or mathematics where concentrated undergrad training is 1st required, and if you don’t have that training you are required to take up to 2 years of additional prerequisite courses?

      That would be news to many in their field where great technical understanding and knowledge is required as a prerequisite before entering a competitive MS program that is not required for a JD program.

      Sounds like a bit snobbish of you to suggest your educational training is above others.

      I guess than a 4-year PhD program in women studies is much more attainment t than a 3-year JD program because it’s deemed a higher educational attainment by most, riiiiiight?

    59. Bitterlaw says:

      While I appreciate the congratulations, my book is still going through the process of being published. I expect that it will be available for purchase in August 2022. I may post a link to buy it. Dave sold millions of copies of 1776 by David McCullough over the years at HHR.

    60. Tgca says:

      I’ll let LisaB speak for herself but I thought she said her master degree was studying math. If that is the case, that is a highly technical training requirement above the knowledge necessary to enter law school. I’ve had co-workers with English and political science degrees go to law school without any other prerequisites.

      You could not enter an MS program in electrical engineering or mathematics or physics with just an undergrad in women studies but you could certainly enter law school with just that training.

      So it sounds like the prerequisites for law school is much less than many master degree programs.

    61. Tgca says:


      I expect a personally inscribed copy of the Bitter book.

    62. mnw says:

      BL & Meldrin

      I know several people, mostly children of friends, who got law degrees & passed the bar, but then never practiced law, or did so only briefly.

      A J.D. degree is an expensive trinket to hang in your bedroom.

      I think many people go to law school just because they don’t have a better idea, & then discover that they don’t enjoy the adversarial nature of the profession.

    63. Cash Cow TM says:



      Let’s go Youngkin!
      Joke for the day:

      Two potatoes standing on a street corner.
      How do you know which on is a prosti.tute?

      The one with the sign that says
      I will let myself out…

    64. Tgca says:


      Agreed! I’ve worked with people that have law degrees that never used them or used them only tangentially in their work.

      For example, I worked with a woman years ago that did sales and local tax (SALT) accounting and related tax returns for a large company and she had a law degree but never practiced law. In most instances, much of this work is done by accountants who got some on the job training in sales tax. Her education did not distinguish her work from her accountant counterparts.

      In my graduate studies in tax years ago, half the class were tax lawyers studying for their LLM in tax while the rest of us were under the MS taxation program because you learn the exact same curriculum in the program but we were told the ABA requires that to get a LLM in tax the course must be taught by a degreed tax attorney. So we all studied the same materials but the class was separated into two different degree programs.

    65. Tgca says:

      For the record, I am not saying law degrees are useless or easy to attain, as any advanced degree requires commitment and study, depending on the program. I’m saying it is snobbish and elitist to suggest the value or technical training of a law degree is above that of other master degree programs.

      Even a degree in fine arts can be intensive if there is a lot of commitment required in the program. What’s the difference in reading thousands of pages of legal literature and making conclusions and reading thousands of pages of literature and making conclusions?

      A masters degree in math can result in thousands of calculation and proofs that are challenging to most, and it’s no secret that most people find math their most difficult subject though I think because of reasons other than sheer intellect.

    66. Bitterlaw says:

      The woman who graduated first in my law school class had an engineering degree. Another already graduated from medical school. I think obtaining a JD is an achievement but I do not engage in ranking doctorate degrees.

      I wake up every day wishing I was doing something else. If I could go back to 1990, I would have pursued a Ph.D in history and taught in high school or college.

    67. Meldrim says:

      #61, Bitter, you wrote “Dave sold millions of copies of 1776 by David McCullough over the years at HHR.”

      And at $0.01 apiece, it kept the lights on in between those big donations that he got every time that he won a MOBbie.

    68. Meldrim says:

      “If I could go back to 1990, I would have pursued a Ph.D in history and taught in high school or college.”

      And lisab still would say that you’re not qualified to run for Congress.

      But now you’re a published novelist, like that other JD recipient, Stacy Abrams, who is the most qualified candidate evah.

    69. Tgca says:


      Bitter proves us more analytically inclined people are much smarter than the artsy farts types but I already knew that from tutoring many in college in calculus, physics, and other math courses.

      I was also perplexed how someone could achieve good grades in the advanced biological science and pronounce all those big words but really suck at math.

      I think it’s a brain wiring issue myself.

      I suck at classic literature! I can not quote verbatim lines like many of the snobbish elitist types though I may get the gist of the meaning.

      Though I thought many of the stories of Shakespeare were interesting, I could not understand why they tawked so funny.

      The only quote I remember from classic lit is

      …friends, Romans, and countrymen, lend me your ears…

      …we need the dirt to bury Cesar.

    70. mnw says:

      Unbeknownst to most, including many DOJ attys, the DOJ has atty liaisons all over the world. I wish I’d studied modern languages & then angled for those gigs. Otoh, I have a close friend stationed in Sierra Leone, and the work doesn’t sound terribly exciting. Plus, I don’t play golf or have any interest in it. These DOJ gigs are kind of quasi-diplomatic– persuading the host govt to prosecute internet scammers, etc.

    71. Tgca says:

      Oh…I did learn another lit phrase too

      “Et tu brute”

      Apparently uttered by Caesar when he encountered Brutus in a Roman gay bar back in the day.

    72. Meldrim says:

      “I have a hardcover book from an acquaintance who published the life story of their grandfather …. At last recollection, they sold less than 10 copies of the book.”

      Tgca, did your acquaintance have two heads and insist upon being addressed in the plural? If not, I guess that we now know who the true Woke acolyte on HHR is. What’s wrong with saying “he” or “she,” as applicable?

      Oh, and I think that you meant to say that he (or she) sold *fewer* than ten copies of the book. It’s impossible to sell “less copies” of something, since copies are a “counting” thing, not a “measurement” thing. And that wasn’t a fat-fingered or careless typo on your part, it was bad grammar. Sad.

    73. Waingro says:

      #50, poor, DW. He has been beaten down so much by the blue invasion into his home state. Hopefully, Youngkin lifts his spirits back up today during his victory speech!

      Younkin by 3.5%.

    74. Tgca says:


      Golf is a boring white racist old man’s game. Just ask Tiger Woods.

      I tried French but found it unappealing. I can still order French fries in French if necessary and say yes – Oui if propositioned in a French gay bar by an attractive Frenchman.

      I excelled in Spanish with little effort (probably due to genetics) and could pronunciate it well, including the rolling Rs which my non-Latin classmates seemed to have a problem with…if you can imitate the video below then good for you.

      But then again, folks from Spain and Portugal often considered the Puerto Rican’s from the Sewer State of speaking street or ghetto Spanish, especially those that spoke Spenglish.

    75. Tgca says:


      I often use the pronouns interchangeably in conversation, especially in this day and age.

      As for Meldrim trying to be elitist again in an informal setting, we could point out a number of errors Meldrim has made recently in his posts but most of us are above that here.

    76. Chicon says:

      Has Flyboy Robbie checked yet about how bad the early exits look in VA?

    77. jason says:

      I drove by some polling sites in York Co. Saw long lines of Amish buggies with “Let’s Go Brandon” bumper stickers.

      I think that is good for Brobson.

    78. Waingro says:


      Ned Ryun
      Looks like Youngkin only lost early vote/absentee by 14-16pts. For perspective, we lost that by 31pts in 2020. So we’re running 15-17pts ahead of 2020 coming in to Election Day. Time to turn Virginia red.

    79. DW says:

      Just got back from voting. Doesn’t look particularly good. Democrat pamphleteers out in force, voters in the building proportionally Democrat.

    80. DW says:

      “Looks like Youngkin only lost early vote/absentee by 14-16pts. For perspective, we lost that by 31pts in 2020.”

      Yeah, but in 2020, the statewide election was lost by 10 points.

      I am just not seeing it. I know the Fox News poll was encouraging, but all the others have a margin of error race, which means its not out of the margin of fraud. Lucy will once again pull the football away.

    81. GF says:

      80- Wain, how can they know that? Is that from polling analysis? It’s not like actual vote tabulations have been released.

    82. DW says:

      GF is right to question Waingro on this…Virginia has no party registration. So they cannot estimate on how many Dem versus GOP ballots were sent out or returned.

    83. Waingro says:

      #84, yeah, I probably jumped the gun on pasting that one. But saw it being heavily RT’d on my timeline, saw the blue check mark and obviously got overly excited.

      He has yet to explain his source or explanation and unsure of his credibility. So, my bad here with this one.

      But, man, I want to believe it’s true!

    84. Tgca says:

      So Mildred with her remarkable high IQs likes to correct others’ posts and insinuate they lack in education because of their posts in an informal forum where she expects perfection of others but evidently not of herself.

      I often notice a number of errors in posting at HHR but I usually ignore them, as I understand this is meant to be an informal posting environment.

      For instance, here is a post I noticed yesterday from Mildred riddled with errors and inconsistent common language usage…and I didn’t even score it on sentence structure. If Mildred was graded on this by an English professor, I think her unquestionable high IQ might be questioned. SAD.

      Selections from Mildred’s post 184 dated Nov 1, 2021

      “Wes, I don’t doubt that you have done a lot of reading about the 1876 presidential election, but you seem to gave forgotten much of what you read, or else read biased accounts.”

      What does “gave forgotten” mean?

      “But it was almost exclusively former Confederates who were voting Democrat in the South in 1876, as blacks (when not prevented from voting) were 100% Republican and carperbaggers were overwhelmingly Republican.”

      Is a “carperbagger” like a “carpetbagger” in a common usage reference today?

      were ‘t in charge, so election results were nothing like those”

      I’m not sure how one pronounces this in common usage today – is it like “wurit” or “wurt” or “wur tee?”

      “and, believe it ir not,”

      IR? You mean investor relations, the common acronym for this term in business? Im not sure because it’s not capitalized.

      “finding an essential truth in lieu if true facts, “

      Is “in lieu if facts” like “in lieu of facts”?

      It’s a shame that the secen Democrat commissioners

      Secen sounds a bit like secant in math which is the reciprocal of the cosine in trigonometry. Don’t understand what this might have to do with the election of 1876 though.

      “blacks were permitted to vote),which is why Hayes”

      Do the new grammar rules allow for no spaces between commas and words?

    85. phoenixrisen says:

      DW, you’re in Fairfax County right?

    86. lisab says:

      And lisab still would say that you’re not qualified to run for Congress.

      if he was unqualified, yes i would

    87. lisab says:

      I’ll let LisaB speak for herself but I thought she said her master degree was studying math.
      it was in quantitative education psychology

      which is empirical statistics, i.e. using statistical techniques to evaluate things like statewide testing

      that field is now more commonly known as data science

      as opposed to a mathematician or statistician who would be able to derive the proofs behind the math, i am on the applied side, that is i program the tests in r or python or in the old days sas

    88. DW says:

      87 – no VA Beach…where Youngkin is supposed to do very well.

    89. Skippy says:


      “In Albemarle County precinct 202 (University), Clinton 1851 votes to Trump 407 votes, Northam 1368 to Gillespie 318, Kaine 1933 to Stewart 308 precinct, 243 votes cast today as of around 12:30pm.”

    90. Greymarch says:

      We need your predictions! Everyone reading this should make a prediction on the VA race. Fence-sitters don’t belong on the HHR boards. We’ve been making predictions on these boards since Bush defeated Kerry in 2004. No reason to stop now. Please give us your prediction on the VA gov race tonight.

      My prediction for the VA gov race tonight:

      Youngkin: 50.5%
      McAuliffe: 48.5%
      Others: 1% (slightly familiar with the third-party candidates.)

      – Greymarch

    91. GF says:

      Skippy: Does that include mail ballots already received as well as the early vote? Or is that total merely Election Day votes as of now? Hard to read anything into that without knowing.

    92. lisab says:

      fairfax county has suspended counting for the day

      water pipe broke

      they think they will start counting on thursday

    93. Waingro says:

      #94, LOL.

    94. GF says:

      I made my prediction last week when the surgery began, and I’ll stick with it;

      50-47-2 for Youngkin. Divvy up that last 1% amongst the three candidates for decimal points, I’m not delving that far into their totals.

      Miyares upsets Herring, Ayala might squeeze by since most indies don’t know how radical Left she is, but if Sears pulls it out, it may be due to crossover AA support as she is the only AA on the statewide ballot.

      Murphy by 4; last minute surge for Jack isn’t quite enough, and mandates start tomorrow morning. There will be no second thoughts by the 52% who knowingly vote for this, they already endorsed a pederast for Senate by a large margin, and will be happy to have Murphy bugger them as well.

    95. GF says:

      *Surge began. I had hernia surgery three weeks ago, so autocorrect assumes I’m still talking about that.?

    96. GF says:

      I made a snarky comment asking about Nicky Numbers, but alas, it is awaiting moderation.

    97. Cash Cow TM says:

      Turnout in Winchester VA area reportedly high.
      Also high around Mineral VA.

    98. GF says:

      But since his name went through, I must now ask, “is this real? Is this happening?”

    99. GF says:

      So perhaps asking that same question in all caps is what threw HAL into a tizzy…

    100. Skippy says:

      My prediction was made 2 weeks ago…stated again a few days ago…

      Youngkin 52-47-1

      This race has been over for awhile now.

      Victory night for a new GOP…a Conservative GOP.

    101. lisab says:

      Victory night for a new GOP…a Conservative GOP.

      as robbie will be quick to tell you,

      IF it is a gop win, it will be because trump is gone

      and things are back to a romney/ryan style gop

    102. Phil says:

      Ok, I’ll bite on the prediction. I’m hopeful Youngkin can win a nail biter. Say by half a point. Of course, the problem with that is that if it’s that close you can rest assured they’ll steal it. It’s too easy at that point….unless you somehow believe they are going to not go all in with the fraud and actually stop the steal inches from the finish line. Fat chance. They’re Democrats and they are in complete control of the vote counting apparatus in Northern Virginia.

      So, a prediction? Well, those on here that believe Youngkin is going to win by 4 or 5 points are leaning in waaaaay over your skis IMHO. It’s Virginia for God’s sake. Youngkin would need to win indies by 20 or more and this is a group Biden carried by that amount to be anywhere near the Fox Poll results. Youngkin will carry indies substantially but by enough?

      I’ll just prey Youngkin scrapes by. Wouldn’t put any money on it though.

    103. Meldrim says:

      #77, “I often use the pronouns interchangeably in conversation, especially in this day and age.”

      So you’ve gone Woke “in this day and age,” Tgca. It’s healthy for you to admit it.

      And of course you will find typos in my posts, especially when I write on my iPhone (with that tiny keyboard) and am not wearing my reading glasses. But I didn’t point out a typo in what you wrote–I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you misspelled the plural “Puerto Ricans” as “Puerto Rican’s” because that could have been a simple typo–I pointed out that you wrote “less” when the rules of grammar dictate that one should write “fewer.” Or are you saying that your fingers slipped and that you meant to write “fewer”?

    104. BayernFan says:

      Idk who will “win”.

    105. jason says:

      Youngkin took a drop on Predictit, now 54-48 for McAuliffe.

      But I don’t see any news that justifies it.

    106. Meldrim says:

      My predictions (from 1:16 p.m. EDT yesterday), with which I’m sticking, are as follows:

      “My final prediction is Youngkin 51%, McAuliffe 48%, Princess + write-ins 1%. I am also predicting Sears over Ayala 50.5% to 48.5% and Miyares over Herring by 49.5% to 48.5%, and the House of Delegates moving from 55D-45R to 54R-46D. I don’t think that we’ll see very much ticket-splitting, particularly in NoVA and other suburban areas.”

      And at 5:15 p.m. EDT yesterday, I added:

      “I’m not as confident about my NJ prediction as my VA one, but I’ll go with Murphy 52%, Ciattarelli 47%. Biden got 3% more in NJ than in VA, but I think that Murphy will get 4% more than McAuliffe will get because 1% of McAuliffe’s drop is due to VA issues not applicable in the entire suburban Northeast.”

      BTW, if Youngkin does end up winning by a few points, which seems like the likeliest scenario right now, we should all admit that Skippy called it when pretty much everyone else was either hopeful but unsure if Youngkin could pull it off or else pessimistic and sure that McAuliffe would steal it.

    107. BennSue says:

      Youngkin 51% McAuliffe 48%

    108. Meldrim says:

      #86, Tgca, what a sad post. You should have paid attention in school when they were teaching grammar instead of having to resort to “oh, yeah, well you typed a G when you meant to type an H on your iPhone.”

      Oh, and please announce “your pronouns,” so no one “misgenders” you–you know, “in this day and age.” You’re everything that you accuse people from Radnor of being (well, except that kids in Radnor public schools learn grammar).

    109. Meldrim says:

      I just realized that in my prediction for the AG race I had the third-party and write-in candidates at 2%, which is too high. So I’ll change my prediction to Miyares 50% and Herring 49% (still a 1% victory margin).

    110. Bitterlaw says:

      Youngkin 51.2 – 48.1 – .7 (why waste a vote like that?!?)

    111. Bitterlaw says:

      I will hold out hope that Murphy loses but I will honor my bet with Wes if he wins.

    112. Meldrim says:

      “I’ll just prey Youngkin scrapes by.”

      Unfortunate typo there. : ) Hopefully Republican Delegate candidates will prey on Democrats tonight.

    113. DW says:

      My prediction:

      Youngkin will be ahead 52/47, and Fairfax will show 99% reported, and the talking heads will be discussing when McAwful should concede, and suddenly 108,000 more votes will show up from Fairfax, all for McAwful, and he will have 328 vote lead.

      Youngkin gets the most legitimate votes, but Lucy pulls the football away once more and the final tally after the car trunk is emptied out in Fairfax is McAwful 50 / Youngkin 49

    114. Meldrim says:

      #113, Bitter, if donating $50 (or whatever) to a worthwhile charity is all that it costs you to have defeated the elderly-murdering Democrat governor of NJ, it would have been well worth it.

    115. Meldrim says:

      Wait, Bitter, you bet on Murphy to lose? Then it’s Wes who would be performing a mitzvah by donating to charity if Murphy loses. So GFY, Bitter. : )

    116. Meldrim says:

      DW, I would be willing to wager that, if Youngkin is up 52-47 when Fairfax is 99% reported, 108,000 additional votes for McAuliffe will not appear in Fairfax.

    117. DW says:

      118 – there is nothing to stop them. You know, I know, and most importantly, they know it.

    118. Wes says:

      Yes, Meldrim. Bitter and I made a charity bet about the NJ-Gov race. He thinks Murphy may go the way of Florio and Corzine while I think Murphy is certain to survive by a narrow margin.

    119. Meldrim says:

      Wes, unfortunately, I think that you’ll win the bet, but if Ciattarelli pulls off the upset you can claim that you “made it happen” by betting against it.

    120. Meldrim says:

      DW, if there’s “nothing to stop” Fairfax County from fabricating 108,000 McAuliffe votes after 99% of the county already had reported, how would you explain it if Youngkin actually wins by less than 108,000 votes? Would you still make the same prediction for future elections in VA, or would you, at some point, concede that not every election will get stolen? Remember, Donald Trump was declared the winner in each of WI, MI and PA in 2016 when far less cheating than you are predicting for VA would have given those states (and the election) to Hillary.

    121. NYCmike says:

      “As far as MD, he’s the one who claimed you didn’t honor your bet with him. Take it up with him if the information I’m relaying from him is incorrect.”

      -So, Wes doesn’t know what happened other than the initial claim by MD, yet still throws it out there as fact……..grow up, Wes.

    122. DW says:

      I don’t expect Youngkin to win by less than 100,000 votes. I believe the last statewide election the GOP has won here was Bob McDonnell. That was a long time ago. Ever since its the same show. GOP goes way up in early returns, then northern Virginia holds back waiting until everyone else has reported, and then bingo, they get what they need.

    123. Wes says:

      Mikey, maybe you should take your own advice. I know I haven’t mentioned Pitch’s bet with MD in years, and I don’t even remember the context now. It came up today only because Pitch brought it up.

      Regardless, if Pitch wants to have a thin skin and bring up something said almost a decade ago as an excuse to call me a white bigot and trailer park trash, then let him. I’ll be right here to mock him–just as I mock you for all the help you’ve given Schumer over the years in getting to the position he’s in now.

    124. jason says:

      Youngkin continues to drop, but it is based on “high turnout” in NOVA and stuff like that.

    125. jason says:

      Drop at Predictit.

    126. Wes says:

      More specifically, Jason, it’s based on Dave Wasserman’s tweets, at least one of which has been deleted and revised.

    127. Tgca says:


      Oh Pooh! People find basic errors in Mildred’s posts and she tries to excuse away why her errors are not as bad as posts by others. She is arguing her fingers are overweight and need to go on a diet. I guess she does not proofread her comments which seems extremely bad practice for a lawyer. Do you also submit legal papers with so many written errors?

      Bottom line, an error is an error is an error. If this were graded material, Mildred’s misspellings, grammar, and sentence structure would have gotten her no more than a B grade and her paper littered with corrective red marks, though I applaud her on the content, as previously noted. Hardly indicative of the high IQ she brags about.

      Looks like Mildred’s minority status earned her access to higher education like the Obama couple so she can manufacture the claim she has a high IQ but it also gave her the false impression she can correctly post without errors.

      Lucky for Mildred, in Amerika, the fascist ideology she so readily embraces has not yet extended to properly constructing written communication.

      …where’s your grammar ID card?

    128. Wes says:

      Here is Wasserman’s revised Tweet, Jason:

      Unlike the now deleted first one, it doesn’t suggest good things for TMac.

    129. jason says:

      I am always skeptical about “high turnout”, because you don’t really know what it means.

    130. NYCmike says:


      If that’s what you call “mocking”, then I really am laughing!

      Give me some big words to really show how wonderful a “mocker” you are!

    131. Tgca says:


      It was a mockery statement you twit. Is your Engwish comprehension that bad? Did you fail your ESL classes?

      By the way, how’s that fascist vaccine card thing working for you now that another study was recently released that showed the vaccinated are as likely to transmit the virus as the unvaccinated, and further, there is no observed differences in viral load which totally makes a mockery of your fascist stand on businesses requiring vaccination proof.

      Since you need fascist leaders to tell you what to think, I find it odd you’ve been silent on the matter since it makes your entire fascist argument for vaccination cards not only irrelevant but silly and shows how great your ignorance on the entire topic is.

      Stick to paralegal work for the left and leave the issue of real freedom to us adults please.

    132. Meldrim says:

      Tgca, just because you have lived your entire life mooching off others because of your “underprivileged” background and your box-checking doesn’t mean that other people do. If you actually were Puerto Rican as you claim, you would know that “El ladrón juzga por su condición.”

      And it’s real cute how you now are referring to me as a female because I called you on your Woke use of pronouns. How clever! I assume that you’re snapping your fingers like Damon Wayans and David Alan Grier on the “Men on Film” skit from In Living Color. Are you going to play into every gay stereotype? Actually, the stereotype is that gays are quite eloquent and well educated, so your Ghetto English plays against type. You should work on your English (and, particularly, your grammar) if you wish to displace lisab as the local expert on all things gay.

    133. Tgca says:


      I agree. Normally, I would lean towards the VA gubbernor race being a GOP pick-up but I’m skeptical with all the recent fraud, especially since I saw yesterday where VA is being reported as not following procedure on mail-in ballots.

      I will await final results because I think calling the race early may be 2020 all over again.

    134. Tgca says:


      Again, as usual you’re missing my intent probably because you’re Engwish comprehension and your failing ESL.

      My “her” reference is to my new nickname for you…MILDRED

    135. Meldrim says:

      #133, go cry to your Big Government masters about how people “discriminate against you.” Explain to your mayor how they misgender you and don’t acknowledge that you’re 7% black according to the DNA tests that you keep taking to look for a new affirmative-action scam, so you need protection from those mean local businessmen. Boo-freaking-hoo. Learn to speak and write and stop whining about imaginary Nazis. I’m not going to stop advocating for the government to stay the hell out of people’s lives, even if it hurts your little feelings.

    136. Wes says:

      Tgca and Meldrim go at it. Meanwhile, I have a dunce who thinks agrees with Dick Mourdock that God wants rapists to impregnate women telling me to grow up for something I barely even remember mentioning from another poster’s first-hand account almost a decade ago. Don’t you just love this place?

    137. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Chaz Nuttycombe
      Apparently Roanoke County met 70% of its 2017 vote as of *10AM*. This is a Republican bastion in SWVA that’s Trump+20
      Chaz Nuttycombe
      Turnout is lower in minority-heavy areas of the Newport. Not good for Democrats here. Especially for 83 where black voters won the district for D’s.

    138. mnw says:


      Do you read the comments at RRH?

      There are all kinds of confusing (at least to me) and often contradictory claims about turnout in various red & blue counties.

      Some claim turnout is poor in certain SWVA counties, fwiw.

    139. Bitterlaw says:

      I see the HHR tradition of trying to predict the outcome based on reports of voter turnout in individual polling places continues.

    140. mnw says:

      141 BL

      I was referring to turnout by COUNTIES, as is Sheep.

    141. Tgca says:


      1st of all, you show you know little about gay history if you think all gays are eloquent and better educated then you must be watching too many gay sitcoms.

      Traditionally, gay men did not have high profile careers based on educational achievements unless they were closeted bi or married to women. They often held jobs in the service industry and specifically before the 90s tech boom changed things, the stereotype was of gay men being waiters, hairdressers, word processors, administrative assistants, bank tellers, actors and related acting roles, and the creative arts fields. The vast majority of gay people I knew in my yoot were not highly educated. That has nothing to do with their intellect though but rather their choices.

      Again, it was a stereotype but there is often some truth in stereotypes.

    142. Wes says:

      Any snippet of turnout information is all we have to go on at this point, Mnw. That’s why political junkies like us devour reports as they’re released.

      Unfortunately unlike NC, VA has no party registration; ergo, we don’t necessarily know who’s turning out even with reports from various areas.

    143. Wes says:

      I don’t know what Tgca and Meldrim are arguing over at this point, but I’m going to use not wanting to see any more of this conversation as an excuse to go to lunch.

      Catch you guys later.

    144. Meldrim says:

      #143, even when working in the professions that you list, gays were known for their eloquence and proper language: The stereotype wasn’t of gays dropping Gs or saying “should of” or the like. But point taken that some gays did not live up to such stereotype.

    145. SoHope says:

      Lol in a competitive house of delegate race last night the dem candidate was caught by the cops driving around a woman vandalizing his opponent’s campaign signs.

      VA Dems are a Fuster Cluck

    146. DW says:

      147 – Even at the local level there is the “ruling class” and there is the rest of us who have to live by a stricter standard…

      “When WFXR News reached out to Virginia State Police about whether Hurst was involved in the vandalism incident, they said they could not comment on any inquiry about an investigation related to any elected official.”

    147. Tgca says:


      Mildred is the type of prissy queen that thinks being grammatically correct in an informal setting is important even though her own posts are riddled with such errors, and worse, she lacks the ability to rationally think through real issues.

      Most here, including myself don’t worry about such grammar matters or double-checking our posts before posting, as we try to focus on substantive points just like we don’t worry about fascist ideas of discriminating against people’s freedoms like Mildred. Often my writing style is purposely self-mocking but Mildred is too stoopid to see that.

      My personal experience with these prissy minorities like Mildred, usually gays, who are hellbent on correcting others in informal environments because it makes them feel better about their own insecurities like often being embarrassed of where they came from, being embarrassed of their family, or sometimes it’s just that their parents did a chitty job of raising them as people and they have personal issues. Not sure where Mildred fits in here but I’d bet it’s one of these.

      I was always in the top of my classes, I have passed and did very well in all the Engwish and math exams including SAT and graduate school entrance exams so I don’t care if in an informal setting people write or speak informally, as that may be part of their upbringing but for Mildred to point these out of others in informal settings suggests she is a form over substance shallow person or better known in the gay world as a “bitter old queen.”

    148. Tgca says:


      Again, Mildred is too stoopid to see the self-mockery in posts.

      Mildred walks around like she has a 12 inch dildo lodged up her butt…by the way which many, but not all gay men, may not be opposed to but I digress.

    149. NYCmike says:

      “Mildred walks around like she has a 12 inch dildo lodged up her butt…”

      -Is that when the No Vacancy sign goes up in the window?

    150. Tgca says:

      Uh-oh! LisaB might feel threatened now that Mildred is in the running for being the expert on all things gay.

    151. Tgca says:


      Wes, your post is not proper Engwish. Beware, Mildred might keep tabs on you for being IGORENT.

      Remember. Form over substance! Form over substance! That’s what bitter old queens expect.

      I could only imagine the horrors Mildred must experience when she comes across many in the AA communicating with their own communication style.

      In addition to vax IDs, I think it will make Mildred happy if we get grammar IDs too. After all, its the fascist thing to do.

    152. DW says:

      Just a reminder in Virginia precincts are supposed to tabulate the early vote first so it can be reported on right away once polls close.

      So the normal recent pattern in Virginia has been for the Republican to shoot way out in the lead, then the Dem to catch up and take the lead late once northern VA finally reports.

      Tonight may well look different with Dems showing the early lead, then Republicans catching up, then northern VA doing its thing late.

    153. BayernFan says:

      I think the Dem will win

    154. Meldrim says:

      Tgca, stop projecting. Fortunately for society, the only lives whom you will influence are those of your dogs and there won’t be another generation of semi-literate, Woke pronoun-pushers who want Mommy Government to stop those meanies from living their own lives as they wish. I couldn’t care less what you do with your 12-inch dildos and your short-term relationships, but you continue to want to force other people to give you a participation trophy and go crying to the government when they don’t. And I will continue to advocate as I please irrespective of how much it hurts your feelings.

    155. phoenixrisen says:

      If polling verifies that indies have shifted significantly rightward as VA Gov polls have indicated, then Youngkin probably wins. Voting turnout right now at least looking at reports doesn’t seem to indicate if one side is performing better than the other. We’ll get an idea soon when the polls close. Going to be interesting.

    156. DW says:

      Found this on another site:

      Tazewell County, 2pm:
      9957 votes
      36.03% registered voter turnout
      98.62% of 2017 VA Governor raw votes

      This county is on the WV border. So good news if they have already hit their 2017 turnout by a little after 2 PM.

    157. jason says:

      High turnout in Dem areas won’t matter IF there is a significant shift towards Youngkin in these areas from 2020.

      Same with EV.

      Loudon went big for Biden 62-36? What is going to be today?

      Until we know that, saying Loudon turnout is “high” doesn’t mean much.

    158. Barrett says:

      @ #158

      I live in WV. Looks like Tazewell County totaled 10,082 votes in 2017. If they are already at 9,957 votes 5 hours before polls close, that’s a good sign for Republicans. Those solid R districts in the southwest will help pull Youngkin to victory.

      Good to see everyone after such a long time.

    159. jason says:

      “Mildred walks around like she has a 12 inch dildo lodged up her butt…”

      I think we should defer to the expert on this.

    160. jason says:

      Hey Barrett, you got out of People’s Republic of Maryland?

    161. jason says:

      Barrett, I just mentioned you the other day when listing some long missing regulars.

    162. Wes says:

      Bitter, I think you should give the honorary A-hole award to Meldrim instead of me.

      I mean, having a thin-skinned poster attack me as a “white bigot” and “trailer park trash” because I mocked him for failing all his predictions on here, but it pales in comparison to what Tgca has been saying about Meldrim today.

    163. Wes says:

      Welcome back, Barrett.

    164. Wes says:

      Somehow I deleted “…was impressive” after “here” on my previous post.

    165. DW says:

      Dave Wasserman
      As strong as turnout has been in blue areas, red areas looking even higher. Rockingham Co. (Trump +40) now up to 116% of its ’17 turnout, w/ three hours left to go. By comparison, Charlottesville (Biden +73) is at only 89% of its ’17 turnout.

    166. Barrett says:

      I did in fact escape the People’s Republic of Maryland, though not by much. I’m in the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia. I love it here, life has been good.

      I’ve been busy working on my PhD. It’s tough navigating the indoctrination and the overly-woke coursework. But I manage.

    167. Gatorjoel says:

      Terry wins in a cakewalk-sorry suckers.

    168. jason says:

      Bitter, I think you should give the honorary A-hole award to Meldrim instead of me.”

      Sorry, but you have to remember A-holes ways are not your ways. There are many intricacies involved in being an A-hole, some are not immediately discernible.

      Take the award and run.

    169. jason says:

      Gator troll is back?

      How is your man Biden doing?

    170. lisab says:

      two water pipes have now broken in fairfax

      and they will be keeping the polling places open for a couple of more days …

      they have also run out of ballots and have sent for more

      strangely, lots of people are just voting the top line race, judt like in 2020

    171. jason says:

      Youngkin making a comeback at Predictit, I guess the moonbats there didn’t like Wasserman’s tweet.

    172. Tgca says:


      My feelings are not hurt Mildred!

      You’re the one whining because your family came from some chithole country with fascist indoctrinating ideology that you now want to levy on to real Americans. If you don’t like it here, pack up your family and go back to the chithole country you all came from since you apparently identify more with their fascist ideology.

      I’ve learned to balance both worlds in my life because I’m not ashamed of where I came from or the poor parenting I received, whereas evidently you are ashamed of your upbringing.

      Your condescending remarks about me being gay is typical of Latin guys that are insecure around gays. I could also easily mock stereotypes of your kind for getting knocked up at 14 years old and living off welfare or coming to the US illegally and engaging in criminal and gang activities.

      I get it! A few of us put you in your place and call you on your fascist BS and you get all prissy over it and attack at any instance. I will make it my genuine pleasure to continuously mock you at HHR for your prissy and fascist behaviors…and your poorly structured posts riddled with errors.

      As for future generations, if your spawn are anything like you, Amerika will definitely be in decline because only God knows what worthless people will carry on your genes.

      As always, hugs and kisses.

    173. Wes says:

      You mean the way “Family Values” Cal was going to beat Tillis last year, GJ?

    174. BayernFan says:

      there is a clogged toilet in NoVa, counting will start at 4am.

    175. GF says:

      173- I’ve seen the water pipe meme a few times today, I must have missed the first incarnation. Did the Fairfax voting squad make up something about leaking pipes previously to justify their delayed tallies?

    176. jason says:

      NBC exit: Biden 43-56.

    177. Wes says:

      It’s a reference to a water pipe break at a ballot processing facility in GA last year, GF.

    178. BayernFan says:


      that happened in Atlanta in 2020. they stopped counting at the central location at about midnight claiming a burst pipe. Turned out to be untrue.

    179. DW says:

      York County, (Peninsula, Gillespie +11.4, Trump +6.6, suburban) – 3PM turnout
      25,430 votes
      51.80% registered voter turnout
      110.28% of 2017 raw votes
      65.56% of 2020 raw votes

    180. jason says:

      GF, that was Fulton Co, GA on election night. Everyone had to go home supposedly, water leak, but then some people stayed and kept counting votes unsupervised.

    181. Tgca says:


      I think we should defer to the expert on this.


      LisaB, where are you?

      You’re about to be dethroned by a whining prissy grammar Nazi fascist from a chithole country as an expert in all things gay.

      FYI LisaB. Did you know ALL gays are eloquent and educated, except for lil ole ghetto trash like me?

    182. Wes says:

      That’s good for Youngkin, Jason.

      Of course were it WV rather than VA, the people would vote against Biden by voting for…TMac. West Virginians aren’t exactly known for intelligence.

    183. GF says:

      All, got it! I remember the late night counting that went largely unobserved, hadn’t heard about the water pipe excuse, though. Thanks!

    184. jason says:

      My wife refused to follow my leadership and voted.

      I guess she thinks it might count, some people are trusting that way.

    185. jason says:

      NBCNews Exit Poll


      Economy 33%
      Education 24%
      Taxes 16%
      Coronavirus 13%
      Abortion 9%

    186. jason says:


      Trump fav 41/54
      Youngkin fav 53/44

    187. Tgca says:

      169 Barrett

      PhD in what discipline? I’m sure it’s not equivalent to a JD though.

      West Virginia is an absolutely bee-yoo-tee-ful state. Driving through there is some awesome country.

      Regardless of what Wes thinks of the intellect of West Virginians, there’s no denying it looks like a wonderful place to live or retire based on scenery alone.

    188. jason says:

      McAuliffe 44/53

      But this is ED voters.

    189. DW says:

      191 – yes ED voters, but the GOP did better in early voting than in the past. So I would say that is an impressive difference in favorability. How many show up and vote different from their favorability metric?

    190. jason says:

      These are bad numbers for McAuliffe, I don’t see how you spin it.

      Covid at 13% is a killer (pun intended), McAuliffe was exaggerating the numbers everywhere he went to scare people into voting for him.

    191. jason says:

      How many show up and vote different from their favorability metric?”

      Some. We know some Trump haters that voted for him.

      But I get your point.

    192. DW says:

      jason–bad numbers indeed. Education being second on the list…knowing what happened in NOVA recently…

    193. Wes says:

      Ironically, Jason, TMac governed VA as a fairly moderate, business-friendly Democrat. Had he run on his record from his term rather than going full Parallax on the electorate, the race might not have slipped away from him.

    194. jason says:


      Ideological composition of the electorate:

      37 conservative
      40 moderate
      23 liberal

      Not much to see here. Many people who call themselves moderate are in effect leftists.

    195. jason says:

      TMac governed VA as a fairly moderate, business-friendly Democrat. Had he run on his record from his term rather than going full Parallax on the electorate, the race might not have slipped away from him.”

      Yeah, but he had to be nominated, and he ran against two far left black women in the primary. He would have lost as a “moderate”.

    196. DW says:

      197 – okay, but Youngkin had polled strongly among indies…I know indies are not identical to moderates, but what is significant is the 37/23 conservative over liberal.

    197. jason says:

      The McCauliffe boomlet is over at Predictit, Youngkin back in the lead.

    198. GF says:

      197- Winning 90% of conservatives and only 40% of “moderates” still puts Youngkin at 49% overall, assuming he did not win a single liberal voter.

      Good place to be in.

    199. DW says:

      I am reading that these exit polls jason have been weighted to account for election day AND EARLY voting.

    200. phoenixrisen says:

      Have to agree with jason. Those NBC exits are bad for MacAuliffe. Then again, I don’t put much into exit polling but economy and education being the top issues by far is not a good omen for Mac.

    201. Barrett says:

      Tgca, PhD in Public Policy and Administration. West Virginia looks quite majestic, and people here are a lot smarter than they are given credit for.

      For one, they aren’t entitled like the folks back in Maryland, and they know how to drive. It’s a nice change.

    202. Tgca says:


      Agreed! I cannot tell you how many folks I came across while living in San Francisco or working in NYC who viewed themselves as moderates back when liberal was considered a dirty word.

      Some folks still think Hillary is a moderate and I just roll my eyes. Now, you could argue Bill had some moderate overtones and maybe Hillary just followed his lead as his sidekick but you can’t seriously argue that she was every truly moderate.

      Anyone remember HillaryCare?

    203. jason says:

      Some people are getting desperate…

      “We must abolish the EC and not count votes from red states to save our democracy, and to prevent another 1/6 from happening again”

    204. DW says:

      Per CNN only 17 % AA Vote. That is very bad News for McAuliffe. 73 % are White.

    205. jason says:

      I am reading that these exit polls jason have been weighted to account for election day AND EARLY voting.”

      Correct, just saw that.

      Good news.

    206. Marv says:

      Hey GF,

      I haven’t posted here for a couple of months…..are you still in the Navy?

    207. DW says:

      Rich “The People’s Pundit” Baris
      Ideologically, the electorate is about as good as it could get for Glenn Youngkin and Republicans. Not just on self-ID, but based on what they told exit pollsters re: views.

      Favorables, also very interesting.

    208. Wes says:

      They also voted for Manchin as a way to counter Obama, Barrett. I’ve never understood that (il)logic.

    209. DW says:

      MARV! Good to hear from you…the jet is yours whenever you need it.

    210. jason says:

      Some folks still think Hillary is a moderate”

      The Biden Troll said she was not only a moderate, she was bipartisan and a consensus builder or some BS like that.

    211. jason says:

      Hey Marv, good to see you.

    212. DW says:

      If these exit polls are close to reality, this could be a situation where Youngkin gets significant coattails down the ballot.

    213. Marv says:

      Thanks DW.

      It’s a good thing we hedged the price of Jet A fuel.

    214. jason says:


      “Biden predicts Democratic victory in Virginia gubernatorial contest”

    215. Marv says:

      Hi Jason,

      How’s my fellow USAF veteran been doing lately?

    216. Tgca says:


      Good for you Barrett. Having visited throughout many parts of the US, I find it funny how some love to put down the conservative states without having been there or experiencing them culturally.

      I think WV, especially in the fall is mesmerizing. TN is another gorgeous state with some amazing country.

      I also find people in the southern states are generally very friendly and polite, unlike most here at HHR. 🙂

      I guess it depends on what you like.

      Maybe someday I’ll sell that beach house I don’t have in Floreedah and move to the quiet countryside.

    217. Skippy says:

      Whew….even I wasn’t expecting this good of 1st wave of exit polls. I expect the numbers in these exit polls to slightly get a litter better for Youngkin in the next wave.

      If the exit polls have a decent amount of accuracy to them we may want to start looking at NJ Gov race a little bit more seriously.

      Wave might be big enough to crease over the banks of Rutgers University.

    218. jason says:

      NBC Exit Poll Party ID

      34% Repub 34% Dem 32% IND

    219. Wes says:

      Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, Skippy. Ciattarelli is a decisive underdog in that race.

    220. jason says:

      Hi Jason,

      How’s my fellow USAF veteran been doing lately?”

      Thanks for the promotion but I was Army.

    221. DW says:

      jason, many of the recent polls were weighted D+3 or more.

    222. jason says:

      We called you guys Zoomies.

    223. jason says:

      Yeah, I don’t see how McCauliffe wins with that ID split.

      But then again, I don’t trust exit polls.

    224. Tgca says:

      Oh no! I just noticed a typo.

      Dear HHR.

      Please excuse my typos and writing style. I’m too lazy to re-read and be grammatically correct to meet Nazi fascist posters’ desires. In fact, I’m more inclined to do it more often if it irritates the HHR fascist brigade so be forewarned.


    225. Scooterboy says:

      I’m sitting in a tree stand as we speak. Keep up the good work with the election updates. It’s helping pass the time.
      Lord knows the deer aren’t helping.

    226. Tgca says:


      Army kitchen help to be exact. Where else do you think Jadon found his love of swine?

      Too bad he was not stationed in Presidio in San Francisco.

      He could have become a tofu addict while making friends in nearby Haight-Ashbury and Berkeley.

    227. Wes says:

      Former Congressman Dennis Moore (D-KS) has passed at 75 after battles with cancer and Alzheimer’s:

      Moore first won in 1998 on the wave of backlash against the Clinton impeachment. He faced serious challenges for reelection in 2000 and 2002. In 2004, Moore faced the infamous Kris Kobach and won decisively. He won walkover races in 2006 and 2008. In 2010, he elected to retire. His wife, Stephene, ran to succeed him but lost badly in a GOP wave year.

    228. Tgca says:

      If this is true, it’s disgusting and these precinct gatekeepers should be arrested and charged with voter rights infringement offenses.

      Only HHR fascists would support this BS!

      The Virginia Department of Elections commissioner sent out a directive to all election officials barring them from suppressing voters who are not wearing face masks

    229. Marv says:


      You can call me anything you want…..just don’t call me late for dinner.

    230. jason says:

      What, election officials shouldn’t have the “freedom” of discriminating against people not wearing masks?

    231. jason says:

      I’m sitting in a tree stand as we speak. Keep up the good work with the election updates. It’s helping pass the time.
      Lord knows the deer aren’t helping.”

      23 deer have walked by but Scooter didn’t hear them.

    232. Meldrim says:

      #222, Jason, if turnout indeed is D+0, then we might be looking at a 4% Youngkin victory. Trafalgar had Youngkin ahead by 2.3% with a D+2 sample.

    233. lisab says:

      #235 who said he is hunting deer?

    234. Scooterboy says:

      23 deer have walked by but Scooter didn’t hear them.

      Lol. I’ve often wondered how many times that has actually happened.

    235. JeffP says:

      VA exit polls look very very good. What about NJ?

    236. Wes says:

      Someone on RRH just said Larry Sabato declared Dems are in big trouble in VA. I haven’t found a link though.

    237. Marv says:

      Hi lisab,

      I read “The Bunker”. Good book, thanks for the recommendation.

    238. Marv says:

      Hi Wes,

      Haven’t chatted with you lately. How’s it going for you?

    239. Tgca says:

      So the deadline to get vaccinated for the double dose vax is tomorrow in order to meet the December 8th Biden EO mandate, and thousands at Boeing, Mercedes, and other manufacturers don’t appear to be complying and are filing medical and religious exemptions.

      Will they be fired before Christmas? I saw another video where the skank Secretary of Commerce suggested there should be no vax delays or extensions for Christmas. Fire those b*stards NOW! Let their kids suffer for Christmas dammit!

      Two employees of one company claimed their HR department quizzed them on their church leaders and details about their faith. So now you have to be a church goer to be religious and take a Bible test?

      Wow! Talk about invasive tactics of religious freedoms. I guess this can now get into violations of religious freedoms if fat middle-aged fake hair-colored HR reps can decide what being religious means to people.

    240. Wes says:

      ¡Hola, Marv! ¿Cómo estás, hombre?

    241. Phil says:

      Exit Polls don’t mean a whole hell of a lot. At least the first wave anyway. Just ask President Kerry. That said, you’d rather hear good news than bad and I’m hopeful.

    242. Phil says:

      Baris hits the air with his podcast in 15 minutes with coverage. I’ll pass on anything of interest with his analysis as the evening wears on.

    243. Tina says:

      The booster vax is the worst.

      What the phuq?

      Headache, aches, shivers.

    244. Marv says:


      Bien, gracias. Y usted?

    245. Marv says:


      How did you get the upside down ! and ?.

    246. Marv says:


      Moderna or Pfizer?

    247. Tgca says:

      ¡Hola, Marv! ¿Cómo estás, hombre?

      Wes is Latino too I see. Damn! They’re all over the place now.

    248. Marv says:

      Hi Tgca,

      Haven’t chatted with you before. How are things with you?

    249. lisab says:


      Quartered Safe Out Here: A Harrowing Tale of World War II Kindle Edition by George MacDonald Fraser

      great book

    250. JeffP says:


    251. Cash Cow TM says:

      “jason says:
      November 2, 2021 at 5:21 pm
      McAuliffe 44/53

      But this is ED voters.”

      How do they know which voters have Erectile Disorders (ED)?

    252. JeffP says:

      I got the J & J…passing on the booster after Mayo Clinic findings.

    253. Marv says:

      Thanks, lisab.

      I’ll check it out. Eventually, I plan to tackle “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” by Shirer. I read both of his Berlin diaries.

    254. Meldrim says:

      #256, Cow, they just look for the Bob Dole bumper stickers on their cars.

    255. Wes says:

      Heh, Tg. While I do have an affinity for women of Latin descent, unfortunately I can’t claim to be in even a remote way a Latino myself.

      It feels really weird for a “white bigot” like me to say that.

      Oh, well.

      I guess no one’s perfect.

    256. Tina says:

      Marv, Pfizer.

    257. Wes says:

      Estoy bien, Marv. Me encanta que todo es bien con tí.

    258. Tgca says:

      249. Marv

      Are you ok with hombre? I think Wes may have been a little forward with making the declaration it’s ok to refer to you as hombre.

      Would you prefer to be referred to by a specific pronoun?

      I’m learning it’s rude not to ask folks about pronoun preferences even if their preferred pronoun is not really a pronoun itself, like if you identify with the mythological or vampire gender then you may wish us to use vam or vamself in referring to you.

      Just let us know your preference please so we can be respectful.

      I was recently told my old company had a session where folks were asked what their preferred pronouns were. Sooooo sorry I missed that by doing early retirement.

    259. Wes says:

      Oh, Marv. On my tablet, I press down the ! and ? to get options for the inverted characters.

    260. Meldrim says:

      “While I do have an affinity for women of Latin descent, unfortunately I can’t claim to be in even a remote way a Latino myself.”


      BTW, Wes, your Spanish isn’t bad, but you should have said “Me encanta escuchar que toda está bien contigo.”

    261. Greymarch says:

      #240: Sabato is a bit past his prime, but he knows VA better than other state.

    262. Tgca says:


      It’s ok Wes.

      White bigots have been known to take advantage of hot Latino chicks just as black bigots have chased their fair share of hot white chicks.

      Who you screw and who you bring home to meet the family are two very different things. Remember that!

      Think of the song below to better understand. This is one of my fav 70s songs.

      I dated a few AA guys but have been told because I have very light skin I’m inherently a white racist which makes sense because I never got along as a child with my one brother who was pretty darker skinned, like Mariah Carey or actually darker me thinks.

    263. Tina says:

      Sobbato also said something about white supremacists.

    264. Wes says:

      Thanks, Meldrim.

      New thread, guys.

    265. Bitterlaw says:

      HHR Prediction contest:

      At what time will a bad report cause DW to flip out”

      I say 8:12

      HHR Drinking game-

      Drink every time DW posts, “I have seen this movie before and it always ends the same.”

    266. phoenixrisen says:

      Mac up 5 52-47 with 83% reporting in Loudoun County…yikes.

    267. Bitterlaw says:

      If you can tolerate the risk that Rachel Maddox May appear, the MSNBC map guy shows the results now with the Biden/Trump numbers. TMac trails Biden by about 10% in Dem strongholds.

      CNN map guy does the usual micro report – “Let’s look at the 400 block of Pine Street in Alexandria….”

    268. lisab says:


      you can read the fraser book in a couple of nights. it is one of the great war memoirs. he was a novelist, so he was able to make the book very readable.

      although he was fairly liberal, he was one of those who came out in favour of the atom bomb

      he basically says at the end of that book, “a lot of people were dying in that war, and while i am sorry civilians died, but the bomb saved a lot of other civilians from dying, and a lot of soldiers, including my friends that i served with, and who are you to say our lives were not worth as much as the civilians in those cities? if you did not fight in that war, gfy”

      to paraphrease