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    Cheney Down By 22% in Primary Race in Wyoming

    If a new poll from the Caspar Star-Tribune and Mason-Dixon is to be believe, Liz Cheney is going to lose her bid for the nomination for re-election by the Republicans.

    US HOUSE – WY-AL – GOP PRIMARY (Mason-Dixon)
    Harriet Hageman 52%
    Liz Cheney (inc) 30%
    Anthony Bouchard 5%
    Robyn Belinskey 1%
    Denton Knapp 1%

    This poll was done July 7-11 among 1100 likely primary voters.

    Posted by Dave at 3:54 pm
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    1,366 Responses to “Cheney Down By 22% in Primary Race in Wyoming”

    1. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      1st

    2. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @Humble_Analysis
      NZ vaccinated their entire adult population by the end of February (83% overall). Yet, somehow they have the highest covid case rate on Earth “despite” an indoor mask mandate.

      Now set to tighten restrictions once again.

    3. Bitterlaw says:

      QAnon is for loons. Deep State is BS. Both can be true.

    4. gameboy says:

      #2

      Hard to believe people are still falling for the COVID crap. The peeps are either dumb, stupid, ignorant or a combination there of……

    5. Tina says:

      New York Post
      @nypost
      Hunter Biden laptop shows dozens of meetings with dad, business partners https://trib.al/da4Oxuj

    6. Wes says:

      According to demontest.org, I’m at moderate risk of demonic oppression/possession.

      Oh, well.

      I guess I’ll have to retake the test and get those numbers up so I can be at extreme risk of having Lucifer, Leviathan, Jezebel, Lilith, and Mammon take up residence in my skull.

      Of course I don’t know how they’ll all fit in with that oversized brain crowding them.

    7. Wes says:

      I sincerely hope Republicans do oust the spawn of Cheney in the upcoming primary.

    8. Robbie says:

      PPUSA
      @PollProjectUSA
      NEW: @VictoryPolling

      2024 #FLPres GOP Primary H2H
      Ron DeSantis 51%
      Donald Trump 33%
      Undecided 17%

      No Undecided
      Ron DeSantis 61% (+22)
      Donald Trump 39%

      600+ LV | 7/13-7/14

      – We now have polls from NH, FL, and OH showing DeSantis leading MAGA daddy and it’s only July of 2022. These are not insignificant states either.

      Yes, MAGA daddy has a lead in national polls, but Clinton led Obama in national polls even as she lost Iowa and some of the other early states in 2008.

      MAGA daddy is not in a strong position against DeSantis. In fact, it can be argued he’s in a weak position if these polls are correct.

      I think we now know why MAGA daddy is itching to announce he’s running. He’s losing altitude and he knows it.

    9. Tina says:

      Matt Gaetz
      @mattgaetz
      ·
      2h
      No more BILLIONS for Ukraine!

    10. EML says:

      Had a little send off today for one of my doctor friends. Transferring 2 Republican votes to Wilmington, NC.

    11. Tgca says:

      Uno Uno

    12. EML says:

      The Heavily Accented Genius doesn’t even know how to say once.

    13. Bitterlaw says:

      Putin thanks Matt Gaetz and Tina for their support.

    14. Bitterlaw says:

      Toured Fenway Park. Tiny. Tour guide pointed out all the retired numbers. Ted Williams, of course. Also explained why Jackie Robinson’s number was retired (( knew it was because all teams retired it). Somehow, he forgot mention the Red Sox did not get a black player until 1959. Phillies were almost as bad – 1957.

    15. EML says:

      Is this your first trip to Boston? So now you know that Boston is the sh*tiest sh*thole of all the sh*tholes? And their streets don’t make any sense? But they do have Trillium and Tree House isn’t far away. Feel free to stop by my house on the way home.

    16. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Oriannalyla ??
      @Lyla_lilas
      1/ Dale Samuel , Naval Attache of the US Embassy in moscow , took a photo while cycling through the capital , demonstrating an obscene gesture towards the ” Z ” symbol . When Samuel realized that he was on CCTV

      Oriannalyla ??
      @Lyla_lilas
      He got into the car and once again showed the middle finger to the camera. Well, at least someone in russia adequately reacted to the fascist symbols.

    17. Bitterlaw says:

      EML – We have been here before but did some different things this time. I like Boston (but despise their sports teams). It is the worst city to drive in. At least in the US. Rome is the worst. I don’t they have any laws in Rome.

    18. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      13. “You guys said that Russia would overrun Ukraine in 36 days,” Gaetz said.”

      * * * *

      “A fired-up Austin shot back: “Has it occurred to you Russia has not overrun Ukraine because of what we’ve done and what our allies have done? Have you ever even thought about that?””

    19. Bitterlaw says:

      SDC – Maybe he reads Gordon’s magazines.

    20. EML says:

      I was trying to keep this to the US. I have not yet been to San Francisco, the only city I can think of that rivals Boston (NYC is actually pretty driveable.) But yes, Rome is terrible, as is London, as is Paris, as is Barcelona. But they at least have rules to the road. If you want chaos, go to Cairo or Mumbai or Bangkok. He who has the loudest horn wins. I could not drive any of them.

    21. Bitterlaw says:

      DC is also terrible. Philadelphia and Manhattan are easy. They are grids.

    22. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Elon Musk — warrior

      “BARVINKOVE, Ukraine—Along much of the Ukraine-Russia front line, commercial cellphone towers providing voice and internet service have been knocked out by power outages, Russian shells and jamming.

      But Elon Musk’s Starlink service, which provides internet connectivity using a swarm of satellites, is up and running here. Mr. Musk has sent thousands of kits into Ukraine, turning the country into a high-profile testing ground for the service, which he is trying to sell in other countries around the world.”

    23. Tgca says:

      The Liz Cheney Republican, EML, a.k.a. The Hispanic Whisperer, does not realize that when listing numbers greater than nine here, the EXPERT always does them in single digits as demonstrated by at least a hundred posts over time.

      I guess some people are too STOOPID to see trends.

    24. Bitterlaw says:

      I forget why EML is called a Liz Cheney Republican.

    25. Tgca says:

      Actually, San Francisco is pretty easy to navigate by car. It’s pretty hard to get lost in SF.

    26. EML says:

      I forget why EML is called a Liz Cheney Republican
      ?=====================
      Despite being the most actually conservative Republican here (you see my FB), tgca calls me a Liz Cheney Republican because I suggest that Ron DeSantis is a better candidate than Trump in 2024. I obviously want Cheney to be primaried this year. But as you know, tgca is a clown.

    27. Tina says:

      annmarie hordern
      @annmarie
      · 11h
      The Saudi Foreign Minister says oil production was not discussed at the Jeddah summit.

      “We listen to our partners and friends fr

    28. SoHope says:

      A second poll (since Blueprint Polling was bad) showing DeSantis with a huge leave over Trump in FL.
      The more people know DeSantis the more they like him. Trump has name recognition and a 45% following against a field that will be dominated by a guy with a much smaller following that isn’t even running. When he runs he will consolidate the non-Trump and draw from the Trump votes. They like winning and when he shows he wins compared to Trump whinning about 2020 the dam will break. But hopefully Trump doesn’t run and instead chooses to act as the Kingmaker last minute so he can take the credit.

    29. jason says:

      – Since you’re a sharp political observer, tell me. What happens if the prez and VP come from the same state?

      I know. Clearly, you don’t or you wouldn’t have suggested a Trump/DeSantis ticket.”

      Zzzzzz….. Trump has only been “from Florida” recently. He could be “from somewhere else” in 2024. Even New Jersey, he can live at his golf club there. d

    30. jason says:

      Trump whinning about 2020 the dam will break.”

      Since SoHope has TDS he thinks that voter fraud can only affect Trump, it could never happen to DeSantis.

      Trump isn’t “whining”. He has a legitimate case that the 42000 vote lead Biden had in 3 states (GA, WI, AZ, let’s not even talk about PA and NV) that could have changed the outcome of the election were fraudulent.

      Never Trumpers think voter fraud is great because it got rid of Trump. I hope it comes back to bite them when they find out the Dems didn’t game the election process just to defeat Trump.

    31. jason says:

      Tgca says:
      July 16, 2022 at 7:57 pm

      Uno Uno
      EML says:
      July 16, 2022 at 8:03 pm

      The Heavily Accented Genius doesn’t even know how to say once.”

      Damm, the Hispanic Whisperer doesn’t even know uno means one, not once?

    32. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @Rasmussen_Poll
      NASA estimates that sea levels have risen approximately 6-8 inches in just the past 100 years. But the tidal levels observed in Plymouth MA for more that 200 years have not. Hmmm

    33. SoHope says:

      Wahhh….3 states close election cost Trump. Boo hoo….he’s still a loser wanting to pretend he isn’t and get a second chance. President Al Gore?

    34. Tgca says:

      26

      So now EML self anoints himself the MOST conservative poster at HHR, just like he anointed himself the all-knowing oracle on Hispanics.

      I wonder what the Liz Cheney Republican will anoint himself as next.

      Inquiring minds want to know.

    35. jason says:

      Wahhh….3 states close election cost Trump. Boo hoo….he’s still a loser wanting to pretend he isn’t and get a second chance.”

      Sure, voter fraud is ok, the ends justify the means, right?

      The shortsightedness of this “philosophy” is astounding.

    36. Phil says:

      3 states close election cast Trump

      Kind of a big deal going forward. Want them to pull this going forward again and again?

      It matters…..a lot.

    37. jason says:

      ‘When he runs he will consolidate the non-Trump and draw from the Trump votes.”

      Doubtful. Most of the “non-Trump” are like Amoral Scumbag, they think he is a “Trump clone”. Which is ok, as long as the Trump base believes he is a Trump clone, there are 10 times more voters in the latter group.

      But the assumption that DeSantis would automatically inherit Trump’s base is based on hopes and prayers.

      I am yet to be convinced DeSantis appeals to blue collar voters who used to vote Democratic and switched to Trump. And I am yet to be convinced that DeSantis makes up for this with because he appeals to other demographics more than Trump.

      Time will tell. If I was DeSantis, I would concentrate on getting a big win in Florida and worry about running for President later.

      If he crushes a “moderate” like Crist, the Dems will get the wrong message, that they should be running MORE far left moonbats, not less.

      That will help DeSantis if he does decide to run for President.

    38. jason says:

      3 states close election cast Trump

      Kind of a big deal going forward. Want them to pull this going forward again and again?

      It matters…..a lot”

      Of course it does. That is why the “we should move on from 2020 voter fraud” is so self-defeating.

    39. jason says:

      Seems like the “true conservative” in the race is the black woman…

    40. Tgca says:

      I support my Gubbernor DeSantis but I agree, he has yet to show he can attract the disenfranchised blue collar and minority voters like Trump did.

      DeSantis has many of the personality traits as Trump such as being in your face, combative, and aggressive but I’ve not seen him reach out to blue collars like Trump did.

      I’ve also not seen him connect with AA voters to the level Trump did even though one exit poll claimed he got 14% of AA while another showed 7%, with the latter being more likely accurate, especially after his “monkey this up” remark that did not sit well with many AA in FL whether you believe it was intentional or not.

      And though DeSantis did well with Latino voters in FL, that is mainly driven by Cubans who traditionally vote GOP and that same Latino demographic does not play out in other states.

      Trump was unique in that he was a very wealthy privileged white dude but with street credentials that made him just as comfortable on a construction site as in a boardroom.

      I’ve yet to see DeSantis build that same relationship or come across that way to working class.

      Florida is not MI, WI, or PA so DeSantis success in FL does not translate to success in any of those states that are critical to win in 2024 unless he could pull off NH, NV, GA, and AZ to get pass 270.

      I think DeSantis needs to do much outreach to minorities and blue collars if he wants to attract the same level of support from disenfranchised voters that are not necessarily conservative by nature.

    41. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Iowa Selzer Poll:
      Grassley(R) +8 in the Senate race. He’ll win by double that.

      https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2022/07/16/grassley-leads-in-iowa-poll-by-8-lowest-margin-in-decades/

    42. jason says:

      I wonder what the Liz Cheney Republican will anoint himself as next.”

      He is obviously a meteorologist specializing in upstate NY and Florida weather too.

    43. jason says:

      I think DeSantis needs to do much outreach to minorities and blue collars if he wants to attract the same level of support from disenfranchised voters that are not necessarily conservative by nature.”

      Eureka!

      I think one of the problems is that the Rs that don’t like Trump also don’t see much value in this voter group. They want a party of suburban bluebloods like the old days when Republicans were essentially a suburban voter party with enough rural vote to form a majority.

      No, it is not a coincidence.

    44. jason says:

      NASA estimates that sea levels have risen approximately 6-8 inches in just the past 100 years.”

      Zzzzz…

      7000 years ago you could walk across the English Channel. 10,000 years ago you could walk across the Bering Sea.

      A lot of climate change happened since.

    45. Bitterlaw says:

      I agree with Jason. What kind of person comments extensively about a place they have never lived or visited for even a full day?!?

    46. jason says:

      Bitter is one of the few people here I don’t feel offended when he agrees with me.

      And of course I know Bitter comments extensively on Bittersville because he has been here many times.

    47. jason says:

      Tgca may be a clown, but even a clown can’t be wrong 100% of the time.

      His analysis of Trump vs. DeSantis is spot on.

    48. EML says:

      Damm, the Hispanic Whisperer doesn’t even know uno means one, not once?
      =============================
      Damn, the Heavily Accented Genius doesn’t even know once = 11?

    49. EML says:

      I support my Gubbernor DeSantis but I agree, he has yet to show he can attract the disenfranchised blue collar and minority voters like Trump did.
      ============================
      What an idiotic thing to say. In 2018, a blue wave year thanks to the national backlash against Trump, DeSantis won non-college educated whites by 30. Trump won them by 32 in 2020. This year, DeSantis will most likely win non college educated whites by 50 points, doing far better than Trump.

    50. Bitterlaw says:

      I am not sure if I have been to Bittersville. It is small so I might have missed it driving through. I have been to York, Lititz, Mannheim, Gap, Kleinfeltersville, and Lancaster. I think I got a fair sampling of rural PA. I did not include Bath and Kutztown in the comparison as they are closer to the Lehigh Valley but still rural

    51. Tgca says:

      50

      Then according to EML, DeDantis should do very well in NJ amongst non-college educated whites since 60% of non-Hispanic whites in NJ are not college educated. That means DeSantis could get 2 million votes alone on non-college educated whites which is about 90% of total Dems votes in NJ in most elections.

      Look for DeSantis to turn NJ red in 2024 peeps because our resident Liz Cheney Republican EML is not only The Hispanic Whisperer, but he’s the Poor White Trash Whisperer too!

    52. EML says:

      Look for DeSantis to turn NJ red in 2024 peeps because our resident Liz Cheney Republican EML is not only The Hispanic Whisperer, but he’s the Poor White Trash Whisperer too!
      ==================================
      In addition to being a Heavily Accented Genius, you are also the King of Strawmen. You constantly create an argument that I am not making, then attribute that argument to me (aka a strawman). You are absolutely one of the stupidest people I have ever had the displeasure of running into you. You lose every argument because you’re an imbecile, so you resort to lies. No wonder bitter calls you a clown.

    53. Tgca says:

      …and I thought I was The EXPERT in all things except all things gay to which I defer to LisaB but our resident Liz Cheney Republican, EML knows sooooo much about all these people and places.

      It’s AMAZING!

    54. EML says:

      DeDantis should do very well in NJ amongst non-college educated whites since 60% of non-Hispanic whites in NJ are not college educated.
      =====================================
      In 2020, 35% of New Jersey voters were college educated whites, and 35% of New Jersey voters were non-college educated whites, which means that white voters in NJ are split 50/50 between college educated and non-college educated (not 60/40).

    55. Robbie says:

      SoHope says:
      July 17, 2022 at 12:16 am
      Wahhh….3 states close election cost Trump. Boo hoo….he’s still a loser wanting to pretend he isn’t and get a second chance. President Al Gore?

      – You have to understand. Jason fraud is fully invested in Trump simping. It has given his worthless online life meaning and he’s not going to let go. Continuing to be for Trump when those with functioning brain cells have given up on the fake “stolen election” nonsense makes Jason fraud feel tough.

      He’s so invested in Trump simping, he’ll attack DeSantis in the primaries (if he runs). It may not be his usual boorish direct attacks, but he’ll go after DeSantis for not being as tough as Trump or he’ll say he prefers Trump’s failed business career DeSantis’s typical politician’s resume.

      Jason fraud will also probably use Tinfoil’s deranged comments from Gateway Pundit as a jumping off point to chide DeSantis as well. Why? Because Trump support is now little more than cultish behavior. And cults only end with cyanide laced Kool-Aid.

    56. Tgca says:

      I just checked. Norway is 93% white and only 35% are college educated.

      I bet DeDantis could win election there if permitted to run since 65% of whites are non-educated in the very liberal Norway.

      I’ll check with EML to make sure since we know from his excellent insight into PEOPLE and PLACES that all white people vote alike.

      I’ll also ask him if the weather is better in Norway than in FL or NY.

    57. EML says:

      I’ll check with EML to make sure since we know from his excellent insight into PEOPLE and PLACES that all white people vote alike.
      ===================================
      Yet another strawman. You really go apesh*t when you lose.

    58. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 17, 2022 at 8:52 am
      I think DeSantis needs to do much outreach to minorities and blue collars if he wants to attract the same level of support from disenfranchised voters that are not necessarily conservative by nature.”

      Eureka!

      – Pure comedy gold. Like I said in 56, Jason fraud won’t go after DeSantis directly. He’ll nibble around the edges. He’ll chide DeSantis in comparison to his hero, MAGA daddy.

      And only fools would believe Trump is better positioned with minority voters than DeSantis when DeSantis hasn’t even begun to campaign on a national scale. Trump has 100% name ID and yet he’s already starting to lose steam against a guy who rarely leaves the borders of Florida.

    59. Tgca says:

      60% of white PEOPLE in NJ are non-college educated. Doesn’t matter how many voted in 2020. DeSantis wasn’t running then.

      We know from your excellent insight into PEOPLE and PLACES, all those non-college educated folks are DeDantis lovers and will crawl over broken glass to vote for him so count the Sewer State as a GOP pick-up in 2024 if DeSantis is the GOP nominee.

      Let’s not monkey around here, white people LOVE DeSantis!

      Just like Hispanics LOVE Cornyn with his 36% approval rating among TX GOP which means demographically 90% of Hispanics and 0% of all others approve of Cornyn.

    60. Tgca says:

      Ok. Time for brunch.

      Can’t wait to get me some brunch tacos. Yummeee!

      We Latinos LOVE our tacos.

    61. EML says:

      We know from your excellent insight into PEOPLE and PLACES, all those non-college educated folks are DeDantis lovers and will crawl over broken glass to vote for him so count the Sewer State as a GOP pick-up in 2024 if DeSantis is the GOP nominee.
      =======================================
      Is it actually possible for you to post without creating a strawman?

      It’s ok to lose; I’ve beaten you badly here. You are a proven loser, just like Trump. No wonder you want to nominate the proven loser instead of the proven winner DeSantis, who is 8-for-8 in primary and general elections and soon to be 10-for-10.

    62. Cash Cow TM says:

      DRUDGE

      “Iran plotting to kill Trump, intelligence leak claims…”

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Nancy Pelosi now working on introducing bill to give $10 Billion to Iran?

    63. Cash Cow TM says:

      DRUDGE

      “UPDATE: Ricky Martin accused of incest by nephew…”

      **************************************

      Dems in congress now working on bill to give Ricky Martin Medal of Honor award and to start fundraising efforts for a Martin for president effort.

    64. Phil says:

      My preference in 2024 is DeSantis. I think he currently has a way to go to get to Trump’s support among blue collar working class workers in the rust belt and that would include inroads Trump has made among working class blacks. However, I firmly think he eventually will get there. Great governor, refuses to back down Ala Trump, has discipline unlike Trump, smart….DeSantis has it all IMO.

      I wouldn’t, however, characterize those who still prefer Trump as “losers”. Trump was a good President and would make a good President again. He’d beat Biden. The problem is that Biden won’t be the candidate in 2024. No damn way. I don’t understand how anyone can even still think that.

    65. Gordon Allen says:

      Just FYI Florida’s WHITE population is only 57% of the total.
      It is a racially and culturally diverse State,which demographically should NOT be a GOP state.
      You don’t win here relying on suburban white voters.

    66. Phil says:

      66

      Exactly….and DeSantis will win his race in November there by at least 7 or 8 pts. I predict he runs even in Dade County.

    67. Tina says:

      Wasn’t Ricky Martin, Mute 43’s bff?

    68. Robbie says:

      One person I’m going to be watching very closely in the runup to 2024 is Ted Cruz. He’s not going to be president and he almost certainly knows it, but it appears he may give up his safe Senate seat to run for president.

      If Cruz does run for president, it will almost certainly be as a stalking horse for Trump. By running, Cruz will chew up 5% to 10% of the primary vote that would otherwise go to DeSantis. That would help Trump once again glide through the early primaries with 35% to 45% of the vote as he did in 2016.

      Trump is vulnerable, very vulnerable to a one-on-one with DeSantis, but he won’t be against a multi-candidate field and Cruz knows this. Cruz also knows if DeSantis becomes the nominee, he’ll likely win the presidency and Cruz wouldn’t get another shot at the White House until 2032.

      But if Cruz runs and effectively helps Trump get the nomination, that will make 2028 an open race whether Trump wins or loses. Of course, the fly in Cruz’s ointment is Trump will almost certainly run again in 2028 and claim the 2024 election was stolen from him as well.

      I believe it was Ross Douthit who once wrote something to the effect that, “Cruz always has a plan. It’s just not always a good plan”.

      If Cruz runs in 2024, it will be to help Trump and block DeSantis.

    69. Tina says:

      Faux News with a Biden/Drat bailout poll.

      Political Polls
      @Politics_Polls
      ·
      34m
      Generic Congressional Ballot
      Republicans 44% (+3)
      Democrats 41%
      .
      Biden Job Approval:
      Approve 40%
      Disapprove 59%

      .
      @foxnewspoll
      , 1,001 RV, 7/10-13
      https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/07/Fox_July-10-13-2022_Complete_National_Cross-Tabs_July-17-Release.pdf

    70. Tina says:

      Approval should be in the low 30s.

      Drats gaining since May.

      (Per Faux Aka America Oast News)

    71. Phil says:

      Cruz has no interest in helping Trump.

    72. Phil says:

      Fox always is a more favorable poll for Democrats, Tina. Even here, Biden went from -16 in last poll to -19.

    73. Tina says:

      What an embarrassment on the world stage.

      The .Saudis just ate our lunch, thanks to President Dementia.

      We cannot help you pump more. It’s your problem, not ours.

      The president never mentioned khasoggii, the Muslim brotherhood official died to the compost.

    74. Tina says:

      Tied to the compost*

    75. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      July 17, 2022 at 12:37 pm
      Cruz has no interest in helping Trump.

      – Help Trump directly? No. Indirectly help Trump and directly help himself? Yes.

      Again, Cruz is smart enough to know a DeSantis primary win probably means a DeSantis White House win. That means Cruz couldn’t run for president again until 2032.

      Cruz doesn’t want to wait that long. He thought his failed 2013 government shutdown gambit would propel him to the nomination in 2016. He came close, but Trump came out of the blue and ruined it. Who’s to say another person out of the blue won’t do that to Cruz?

      Cruz is smart enough to know every politician has an expiration date, especially at the presidential level. Christie failed to realize that in 2012 and now he’s nothing. Cruz’s expiration may have already come and gone, but, whenever it is, it would certainly be closer in 2028 than 2032.

      If Cruz wants to be president and we know he does, it’s another 10 years to 2032, but just six to 2028. If he runs in 2024, it’s because he’s decided he wants to have a real chance at the presidency in 2028. Of course, he’s underestimating Trump’s desire to remain dominant in the party in 2028.

    76. SoHope says:

      The GOP path to the White House will never go through New Jersey. Pointing out DeSantis’ supposed deficiency with NJ voters is just a weak attempt to obfuscate. DeSantis has established his “movement” in FL (same home state as Trump) and he has already overtaken Trump as favorite son. After 2022 reelection blowout the songs of Florida Man’s exploits will spread across the land. The question is does Trump want to run again so badly that he would risk splitting the GOP hurting his chance of DeSantis does run. Trump if he runs would choose to beat DeSantis by attacking him personally…DeSantis would fight smarter. Let himself be fired on first. “I considered him a friend. I fought for him when the media unfairly attacked him”.
      Obviously in the end it’s best that Trump play Kingmaker and move on to retirement.

    77. Phil says:

      Cruz has been a good Senator and has voted the way the vast majority of Texas Republicans have wanted him to…….but he could never be elected President. Unfortunately, he is incapable of grasping that.

    78. Phil says:

      I don’t think Trump cares a lick about whether or not he divides the GOP. He only cares about his becoming President. It’s about Trump and only about Trump. Always has been and always will be.

    79. Robbie says:

      I agree with Phil’s comments in 78 and 79 100%.

      Both Trump and Cruz have it in their own perceived best interests to see DeSantis hobbled.

      It’s not hard to see them form “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” pact.

      On a strictly transactional basis, would anyone be surprised if Trump promised Cruz either AG or a SCOTUS spot if he ran in 2024 and helped siphon votes from DeSantis? I wouldn’t.

    80. SoHope says:

      2016 Trump primary attacks were brutality effective because he was a swamp monster dragging credible politicians into the mud with him (Rubio). In the end both look bad but Trump is made of mud so a little more won’t hurt. DeSantis never attacking Trump but being attacked makes it easier to rise above and make slanted attacks. I stood by you. I want what is best for our country…ego should never get in the way of that. I think Trump sees DeSantis playing it smart and not overtly maneuvering against him. Trump will have to declare early and cut him off early if he’s intent on running. I know Trump wants a coronation and guaranteed 2024 GE win but one or both of those are at risk.

    81. Tgca says:

      62

      The Liz Cheney Republican, EML a.k.a.:

      The Hispanic Whisperer
      The Poor White Trash Whisperer
      The Self-anointed Most Conservative HHR Poster
      The Self-anointed Oracle of All People and Places

      has now single- handedly decided he is the victor in every disagreement he has on HHR…

      …and he has now determined Trump supporters are all LOSAHS!!!

      That’s 74 million American LOSAHS out there.

      That’s a lot of LOSAHS!!!

    82. Tgca says:

      I admit, as an EXPERT in all things, except all things gay to which I defer to LisaB, I’m getting a bit concerned my time as the go to guy at HHR has passed, as the Liz Cheney Republican EML self-anoints himself as the All-knowing Oracle and victor on every issue at HHR, especially when it deals with PEOPLE he’s had no interaction with or PLACES he’s never been.

    83. Robbie says:

      At a minimum, Trump will announce he’s running for president because he believes being a candidate will protect him from prosecution. He may or may not be correct on that.

      Might Trump bow out in late 2023 if DeSantis is swamping him? I guess it’s possible, but I wouldn’t bet on it. As Phil noted, Trump doesn’t care one iota about the Republican Party. I could easily see him remaining in the race in an effort to hurt DeSantis and hurt the party.

      Trump doesn’t strike me as someone who will go quietly into the night. January 6 proves that. But I guess I could conceive of a moment in which he bows out if it’s part of an agreement with the DoJ that they won’t prosecute him (assuming they decide there is reason to do so).

    84. Tgca says:

      79

      Agreed! Trump is self-centered and narcissistic like most politicians but only he wears it on his sleeve unabashedly and he will fight like hell for what he wants, stand up against critics and go on the attack of those that try to define him.

      That’s why poll after poll NOW shows America has buyers remorse and prefer Trump over any Dem.

      If it were not for those traits, we would be looking at a 2nd Clinton term with the courts packed with liberals and not to mention every other radical left policy in place as the US marched towards a European style socialism.

      It’s why Trump has the loyalty and support of many you would not normally expect, including Christian conservatives. They see him as the fighter they’ve been looking for that no Republican has filled since Reagan.

      DeSantis has yet to show he can model himself in a way that will attract those needed for the GOP to win nationally. If he does, great! Time will tell but for now, I’m sticking with the real deal and Trump gets my vote in any GOP primary or GE unless I see something waaaaay better.

      TACOS for Trump 2024!!!

    85. Tgca says:

      85

      …and what GOP politician willing,unless steps aside for the good of the party if they think they have a good chance of winning?

      Please give names.

      Politicians by nature are self-centered, narcissistic and think they alone can do the best job out of 300+ million Americans.

    86. Gordon Allen says:

      I don’t get this site forever arguing done deals to death.
      DeSantis is running for President. Nomination races don’t divide parties,unless the lovers try to do so.
      DeSantis didn’t invite governors and candidates, donors and radio hosts to F

    87. Gordon Allen says:

      from all over the country to Fort Lauderdale last week for nothing.
      Including Sarah Huckabee Sanders btw.
      I hear he thinks the GOP will tire of Trumps over the top style, and feel he could lose to a younger Democrat, and he will appeal to Trumps voters on policy and toughness,but to others not reachable by Trump because of his personality and lack of decorum and discipline.
      But he’s running,barring a recurrence of his wife Casey’s cancer. She’s a real asset btw and a great campaigner.
      Cancer

    88. EML says:

      has now single- handedly decided he is the victor in every disagreement he has on HHR…

      …and he has now determined Trump supporters are all LOSAHS!!!
      ==============================
      Two strawmen in one. If you have to lie all the time, you ain’t winning.

    89. Tgca says:

      68. Tina

      If it is true that Ricky Martin had a relationship with his young nephew, then he should be vilified, and I hope he will be.

      If it is false, the nephew should be charged with filing a false report with the court.

      Having a relationship with your young nephew is rather creepy, especially if you’re married to a man with a teen male child yourself. This sounds like something that would happen if your surname was Biden but who knows for sure.

      If it is true, it will be interesting to see what Ricky Martin’s sister will say since Martin’s attorney has already trashed the nephew as being mentally ill even though he was successful in getting a restraining order against the singer.

      I would assume the courts would perform some sort of due diligence before issuing a restraining order in such a high profile case but who knows the process in Puerto Rico.

      Also, some reports say the nephew was 18 while others say he was 21 so not sure which is true or if they meant the claimed affair was when the nephew was 18.

      We will know more soon after our expert on Hispanics, EML, weighs in on this important issue to the Hispanic community.

    90. EML says:

      That’s why poll after poll NOW shows America has buyers remorse and prefer Trump over any Dem.
      ================================
      Another lie. The latest poll from YouGov shows Trump losing to Biden 44-43 and to Newsom 45-43. Do you lie much in real life, or is this just your online persona.

    91. Tgca says:

      Gordy

      I think you miss the point on Trump attracting blue collar workers, disenfranchised white Dem males, and certain minorities the GOP traditionally struggles with.

      If DeSantis goes out and does a lot of lip service to these groups like past GOP politicians, he won’t get them.

      They gravitated to Trump because he fought for them and engaged them. He showed he would go after the MSM and libs.

      That is what DeSantis needs to do. Not just give speeches. Trump went on the road and actually brought them out of the woodwork.

      Do you see DeSantis traveling the country to those areas reaching out to these folks or do you see DeSantis just tweeting and issuing statements to attract them.

      DeSantis could temporarily benefit from chaos under the Biden admin but that’s not the same as winning people over to be loyal to you.

    92. EML says:

      Wrong again. Although I’ll give you some credit and say that you are only partially wrong. Trump did do a lot of work in bringing in blue collar voters. I’ve given him credit for this before.

      But the trend has continued on without Trump and will continue to after he’s gone. And the reason is that the Democratic Party has abandoned all pretenses of caring about what matters to blue collar voters and are all in on woke ideology. It’s why Glenn Youngkin and Jack Ciattarelli did WAY better than Trump did with blue collar voters. Trump certainly brought some of them in, but the Democratic Party has pushed far more away.

      It is quite idiotic to believe that Trump is somehow uniquely qualified to bring in blue collar voters, when Glenn Youngkin did a far better job of it while talking about covid restrictions and parents involvement in education.

    93. Tgca says:

      92

      Dear Liz Cheney Republican, EML:

      The Yougov poll I see shows Newsom beating DeSantis by a larger margin than he beats Trump, 1 point vs 3 points.

      It also shows Biden and Harris beating DeSantis comfortably by 4 points each but Biden beating Trump by 2 points and Harris ties with Trump.

      So are you making the case that the GOP has a better chance against Biden, Harris or Newsom with Trump than DeSantis?

    94. EML says:

      So are you making the case that the GOP has a better chance against Biden, Harris or Newsom with Trump than DeSantis?
      ==================================
      I’m making the case that you’re a liar, dumba$$. You said that all the polls show that Americans prefer Trump over ANY dem. That was a lie. Stop trying to change the subject, liar.

      And the YoGov poll shows DeSantis losing to Newsom by 1. It doesn’t matter — all of the polls are within the MoE. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

    95. Tgca says:

      94

      Youngkin won VA because Tmac made a fatal error in the debate and children were being raped in school under Dem policies with no accountability and parents being arrested for protesting against educational dictatorships.

      2022 is a bad year for Dems just as 2018 was a bad year for the GOP in many places.

      The NJ Gubbernor also barely won in the Sewer State by expected standards and its most powerful legislative lawmaker in the Senate lost to an unknown truck driver.

      Are you suggesting these are political alignments or just blowback on extreme radical measures?

    96. Tgca says:

      96

      Who is moving the goal posts now? Your TDS is getting the best of you.

      You switch to MOE arguments when it comes to DeSantis but not Trump who loses by lesser points.

      Generally, 4% is considered a comfortable amount to be ahead in polls in an evenly divided country and that’s what DeSantis loses to Biden and Harris by in the poll of your choice.

    97. EML says:

      Are you suggesting these are political alignments or just blowback on extreme radical measures?
      =================================
      I wasn’t suggesting anything, dummy. I was starting facts, which lead to this conclusion:

      It is quite idiotic to believe that Trump is somehow uniquely qualified to bring in blue collar voters, when Glenn Youngkin did a far better job of it while talking about covid restrictions and parents involvement in education.

    98. Tgca says:

      So you think Youngkin would have won VA had it not been for children being raped in school and parents being told to butt out and Biden and Dems pushing CRT and transgenderism?

      Seriously?

    99. EML says:

      So you think Youngkin would have won VA had it not been for children being raped in school and parents being told to butt out and Biden and Dems pushing CRT and transgenderism?
      ===================================
      You just can’t help yourself with the strawmen, can you? Stay on subject, liar.

    100. Tgca says:

      …and no one claimed others can’t do what Trump has done. We’re saying DeSantis has not put any focus there and has not demonstrated he can win states like WI, MI, or PA which Trump actually won before and probably would have won again if not for the fraud.

      DeSantis cannot win the GE in 2024 unless he wins some of those states unless he can get to 270 without them and the only we he can do that is he must win other states recently won by Dems, like NV and NH.

    101. EML says:

      …and no one claimed others can’t do what Trump has done. We’re saying DeSantis has not put any focus there and has not demonstrated he can win states like WI, MI, or PA
      ==============================
      You’ve been told about this idiocy before, dumba$$. How is the governor of Florida supposed to “prove” that he can win WI, MI or PA when he doesn’t run there? That’s a stupid argument to make. It could just as easily be argued that DeSantis hasn’t proven that he can lose WI, MI, or PA and Trump has proven that he can.

    102. Robbie says:

      The one thing Trump’s fought against his entire life is the fear of being labeled a loser. I could absolutely see him, out of nothing more than spite, remain in a primary race he has effectively lost simply to hurt whoever may have beaten him or damage the party he feels treated him badly. How often did we hear him use that phrase “treated me very badly” during his presidency? A lot.

      Don’t forget Trump repeatedly mused in 2015 and early 2016 about running as an Independent had the party voters or the convention denied him the nomination. The only reason we didn’t see him turn on the party is he won the nomination. As soon as he lost the Iowa caucuses, he immediately claimed the vote had been rigged and a new one was needed.

      Unless Trump passes away or is indicted (still unlikely), he will have to be defeated in the primary to stop him. It will take a monumental effort and, even after that, he may simply refuse to concede reality and attempt to tear it all down if he can’t have it.

      Trump’s running for president again, as much as anything else, to protect himself from the judicial system, or at least his fear of what the judicial system might do to him. That mindset does not lead to clean and easy exits.

    103. Tgca says:

      102

      No. I’m showing flaws in your argument. You call it going off course. You just want us to take your word for it without any analysis of the reason for the Youngkin win.

      You claim Youngkin won over these folks. I say look at how he won. It’s not because he magically attracted these people with his policies who otherwise vote Dem. Tmac lost that election by embracing the policies in VA that allow kids to be raped in school with no accountability and parents are told to butt out.

      It was an anger election and not a policy election that decided the outcome. Similar anger in NJ where the top lawmaker lost his seat to an unknown truck driver.

      If you have realistic evidence that shows Youngkin’s win was based on other policies other than education and buyers remorse with Biden, please outline it.

    104. Tgca says:

      104

      No! He doesn’t have to run 1st there to show he is committed to outreach.

      I live in FL in an area with many of these people. DeSantis has not done any of that level of outreach here.

      Typical GOP strategy is to wait just before elections to pander for minority votes. Trump built his base on reaching out to folks from Day 1 and that is how he won both the 2016 primary and GE, as well as these groups in 2020.

    105. EML says:

      I’m just stating factual information. I know as a habitual liar, you don’t understand that. Maybe someone here can explain it to you.

      Youngkin and Ciattarelli both did 20+ points than Trump did with non-college educated whites in their states. Your theory that Trump is somehow magically unique in bringing in blue collar voters does not align with the data. By a WIDE margin, blue collar voters have been more likely to vote for Republicans when Trump isn’t on the ballot.

    106. EML says:

      I live in FL in an area with many of these people. DeSantis has not done any of that level of outreach here.
      ==============================
      You’re an idiot. You’re upset that your governor is actually governing instead of running around the state in campaign mode? Campaigning isn’t what gets a sitting governor votes. It’s being a good governor. And DeSantis’ victory on covid restrictions (which he has in his pocket but Trump does not), makes him a huge hit with blue collar voters.

    107. Tgca says:

      Also, I don’t think it will impact DeSantis in the election a few months from now but it could greatly impact him by 2024.

      There is a huge housing crisis in many major areas in FL where people are being evicted or forced to move far away or to less desirable areas due to inflation without any state gubbermint assistance to offset this.

      Many of those working class blue collar Trump voters are impacted by this.

      Please tell me how DeSantis will attract them when he hasn’t even acknowledged this as a problem yet.

      FL homeless has already become a problem in certain areas not previously seen. You think folks will blame this all on Biden if it continues another 2 years?

      All the new residential building going on is out of affordability range for these people. Folks are forced to move further away from their families or jobs when FL has the highest rent increases, on average 30%, in the nation.

      For the working class, this is astronomical and painful. DeSantis ignoring this won’t make it go away.

      Remember how quickly Christi went from a fav Gubbernor to worst in the country with an approval rating in the teens.

    108. Tgca says:

      108

      You keep ignoring how they won because you think it supports your TDS talking points. You have become Robbie on these issues.

      It was not their policies but an anger election.

      …and it is the gubbernor’s job to be out their and see what’s going on in his state. FL is over 400 miles long with the capital in the more remote northwest part of the state, nearly 450 miles from its largest populations center and many hours from other populous areas.

      …and please don’t tell me about COVID. I was in FL during COVID and most places in the most populous part of the state had COVID restriction similar to NJ where I spent the 1st 8 months of the epidemic going back and forth between the two states.

      FL was paying people to stay home until the end of June of 2021. Many businesses had limited hours because of labor shortages. Schools were also closed in FL at varying levels through fall 2020.

      Perhaps you should drive around and see what businesses and schools were experiencing in FL, especially since we have state required school zones of 15 mph during certain school hours that were not routinely in effect during these COVID times since I know, having lived about 3 blocks from one I often avoided but did not have to during COVID because schools were closed.

    109. Gordon Allen says:

      Even a booming economy has its negatives.
      You’re right that housing and rental costs are high here in Florida.
      The reason is that Florida has become such a magnet,so many are flooding into here that supply can’t keep pace w demand.

    110. Gordon Allen says:

      The other side is if you can breath you can have 10 employers offering you a job.
      ” working men and women love that. Are you suggesting that it would be better to have people leaving here and home prices and rent dropping.
      That sounds like a Democrat talking point.

    111. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca sounds like an Occupy Wall Street rally when people bring up landlords. Don’t ruin your good relationship with him.

    112. Robbie says:

      EML says:
      July 17, 2022 at 3:38 pm
      And DeSantis’ victory on covid restrictions (which he has in his pocket but Trump does not), makes him a huge hit with blue collar voters.

      – I agree with this 100%. Every time MAGA daddy attacks DeSantis, he can just say “Aren’t you the guy who put Fauci in charge of covid?”. In a primary in which Fauci’s approval rating will be 1% (I have to account for Jason fraud), that will be a powerful retort.

      While Donnie will be crying about 2020, DeSantis will be telling the country how he stood up to Fauci and the other lockdown forever crowd.

    113. Tina says:

      Russian hoaxer crushed.

      Catherine Herridge
      @CBS_Herridge
      · 7m
      #Jan6thCommitteeHearings Did former President Trump’s pressure campaign on Vice President Mike Pence cross the line into criminal behavior?

      “I’m not aware of any criminal conduct there,” says Marc Short, former Chief of Staff to Vice President Pence.

    114. SoHope says:

      I’m holding out hope that Trump in the end won’t run…that he is delaying the decision so he can keep raising money and stay relevant. The risk of losing vs the reward of being president.

    115. Tgca says:

      Gordy

      That’s not what I’m saying. I’m not advocating rent control but if people are being forced out of their neighborhoods and jobs, and salaries are nowhere keeping up with housing rental prices for the working class, there has to be some relief for them somehow or else they will turn against you as well if they don’t see local politicians trying to help. They will not blame Biden for this if it continues this way. It’s DeSantis who will get the blame, and rightfully so.

      This is what happened to Dems with many of the blue collar folks. They abandoned them.

      Yes, FL is a magnet for many moving here but in the areas I’m talking about, FL is being flooded with Dems from the northeast because they can work remote or sold their homes. These are not Republicans.

      Conservatives are not moving to FL en masse to move to the large metro centers. They tend to move to other areas of FL.

      I see so many Jersey and NY plates on the streets then I’ve ever seen before and as you know, it’s not tourist season in FL now.

      I have not seen DeSantis address this issue at all yet. I know of working class people getting $600 to $1,000 monthly rental increases in this area. Where will they go because you have to go 50+ miles to get out of this area?

    116. SoHope says:

      A lot of the people moving to FL are Republicans…you can see it in the registration numbers where Republicans overtook Dems and the spread continues to grow. FL renters are victims of their state’s success.

    117. Tgca says:

      117. SoHope

      Are you also hoping DeSantis can win WI, MI, or PA or a combination of them because that’s generally what’s needed to win the presidency by the GOP in 2024 and no other GOPer has done that in two decades besides Trump?

      The 2020 GOP electoral changes gives them +3 EV I believe. That means Trump went from 232 to 235 in 2020 states won and if any GOP candidate also picked up AZ and GA again, that’s still only gets the GOP to 262 EV. The next best states besides MI, WI, and PA are NV and NH. That is the only other rational way for the GOP to get over 270 and it would need them both. The GOP has not won both those states either since 2000. I ignore CO as an option because it’s way gone to the GOP generally.

      So how does DeSantis appeal to the past Dem blue collar folks in MI, WI, and PA if he makes no such effort to this date in his own state?

    118. Tgca says:

      120

      Yes, but not in the areas where working class Dems reside and are hardest hit by inflation. People in Vero Beach are not experiencing the same pain as people in Tampa, Miami-Dade, and Fort Lauderdale, the large population centers.

      By 2024, DeSantis can experience the same pain Christi felt in the Sewer State if he ignores inflation impacts at the state level.

      All he’s done to date is blame Biden like the rest of the GOP but that only goes so far as it trickles down locally.

    119. Tgca says:

      My point is that the GOP should not get complacent and fall into the same trap trap Trump and Rubio did.

      Take nothing for granted!

      Rubio was a rising star that got so much coverage as a newbie in the national spotlight and he really believed all the hype that he was the SAVIOR the GOP needed, and we all know how that turned out.

      DeSantis is the 2022 version of the Rubio in 2011 thru 2016 so I hope he avoids the same pitfalls.

      Trump and team thought they had the 2020 election in the bag, and they probably did until the Dem politicians, courts, and machines in certain cities changed the outcome by about 100K votes in a few states.

    120. SoHope says:

      Can Trump win those states (WI, MI, PA, NV, NH? Especially against someone that isn’t a houseplant. Trump lost all of those states by sizable margins…and in addition AZ, GA, and NE-1. The last we saw in 2020 the Trump brand is toxic except to his base and a captive set of Republicans that vote against the Dems.

    121. jason says:

      Youngkin and Ciattarelli both did 20+ points than Trump did with non-college educated whites in their states. Your theory that Trump is somehow magically unique in bringing in blue collar voters does not align with the data. By a WIDE margin, blue collar voters have been more likely to vote for Republicans when Trump isn’t on the ballot.”

      Zzzzzz….what a bunch of horsecrap.

      There was only one reason Youngkin carried the Trump base. Donald Trump.

    122. Tgca says:

      115. Robbie

      1st, FL ranks 4th in total COVID deaths nationally by sheer numbers and has a higher death rate percentage than NY and CA so hard to blame that on a Trump alone without letting Dem Gubbernors off the hook too which the conservatives routinely like to point out as incompetent. If Cuomo is incompetent then why is not DeDantis with more deaths?

      2nd, by mid-summer 2020 Trump wanted to get rid of Dr. Fow-chee but it was GOP senate politicians threatening him they would not go for it before an election and he would have to answer to them.

      3rd, like it or not, Dr. Fow-chee, as the head of the NIH Infectious Diseases unit would by default have to be a key player under any president. What other federal gubbermint agency should have been called in from the start other than his department?

      Simply more TDS from you that is easily debunked.

    123. jason says:

      By a WIDE margin, blue collar voters have been more likely to vote for Republicans when Trump isn’t on the ballot.”

      Heh, the only person that has made the rust belt competitive in 2016 and 2020 was Donald Trump.

      Only people who don’t believe the blue collar vote is important would deny this.

    124. jason says:

      Aren’t you the guy who put Fauci in charge of covid?”.

      Zzzzz..

      Trump never put Fauci in charge of COvid. NEVER.

      Only Amoral Scumbag’s hero and icon Joe Biden has done that,

    125. SoHope says:

      FL is #3 in population and is filled will old people so coming in 4th is actually over preforming against COVID

    126. Tgca says:

      124

      Trump was the ONLY GOPer to win those states in over 2 decades,
      and most in the GOP believe he won them again in 2020 but denied them officially due to fraud and election violations by Dems and the courts.

      Trump lost WI by .4%

      Trump lost PA by a little over 1%

      Both within the margin of error in polls and we know significant fraud and election violations occurred there that would have otherwise given Trump 261 EV and adding on GA would have put him over 270.

      So tell me how DeSantis will win these states if he does not connect with blue collar voters.

      I already did the alternative math for you for DeSantis to win in 2024 where he has to win every state Trump won plus AZ, GA, NV and NH to get over 270. There are no other realistic options for him without any of WI, MI, and PA, states won by only one GOPer, Trump since 1988, 32 years before 2020.

    127. Tina says:

      Turd was one of the Russians hoaxers favorite reporters. Remember when she claimed that mentally I’ll was brain dead?

      The Hill
      @thehill
      .
      @KatyTurNBC
      : “The trust in media, in newspapers and television, is hitting an all time low. People don’t trust us. They don’t believe us, and it makes me wonder if this job —as I’m currently doing it— is effective, but if it’s doing more harm than good.” https://youtu.be/D5UR-H2mO8A

    128. SoHope says:

      Lost by against a houseplant by:
      WI 20k
      MI 150k
      PA 90k
      GA 12k
      AZ 11k

    129. SoHope says:

      Al Gore barely lost FL by 537 votes maybe the Dems should nominate him.

    130. Tgca says:

      129

      NY and FL had similar populations in 2020, within less than 2 million of each other.

      Over 65 is 17.5 for NY and 21% for FL, a 3.5% difference.

      Extrapolating that to over 65 age difference and total deaths by state makes it nearly identical for NY and FL for population adjustments over 65 to within a few hundred deaths.

      So again, FL did no better than NY on COVID deaths. It’s a fallacy!

      To get the most accurate results we would have to compare all age group deaths but since 85% of deaths were in the elderly this rough percentage tells a story contrary to what you believe.

      In addition, NYC had the majority of COVID deaths and it’s a very congested city where the disease is more easily spread and FL nowhere has the congested population NYC has so that should be considered as well as contributing to NY deaths, making them higher.

    131. Tgca says:

      132

      WI Supreme Court just ruled that election laws were violated in 2020 and we know that was in the heavily Dem population centers so it’s not likely WI was won by Biden legitimately.

      Same for PA where their Supreme Court violated their constitutional law and picking up 1% is a piece of cake in PA, especially since Trump was initially favored earlier on in the night to win but later the forecasts were changed.

      We know what happened in GA too with election law violations.

      So again, Trump would have prevailed in those 3 states to get over 270.

      So 110K manufactured votes in those 3 states changed the election outcome.

    132. jason says:

      SoHope says:
      July 17, 2022 at 8:25 pm

      Al Gore barely lost FL by 537 votes maybe the Dems should nominate him.”

      zZzzzzz… apples and oranges.

      The 2000 election did not have the voter fraud that existed in 2020.

      SoHope wants to go back to the strategy that lost in 2008 and 2012 instead of the one that finally won in 2016.

    133. jason says:

      If DeSantis does become President, he needs to appoint this Christina Pushaw woman as his press secretary.

      She is amazing, she does not let the MSM get away with any of their attacks on DeSantis.

    134. jason says:

      Lost by against a houseplant by:
      WI 20k
      MI 150k
      PA 90k
      GA 12k
      AZ 11k

      I think he won all those states except MI plus NV.

      More than enough EVs to win fairly easily.

      But of course, voter fraud is perfectly ok if it gets you the result you want.

    135. Tina says:

      How quickly will the Jebot attack Christina Pushaw?

    136. SoHope says:

      NY deaths 3620 per 1m
      FL deaths 3569 per 1m

      NY 65+ is 3.3 million
      FL 65+ is 4.6 million

      FL did better per capita even with a FAR greater senior citizen population. Your Trump inspired attempt at dunking on FL is the fallacy

    137. SoHope says:

      Oh you think he actually won those states…think we can arrange that we certify the 2024 electoral votes based on Trumpsters opinions of the election results that way we don’t lose again?

    138. Tgca says:

      So out of 15 million votes cast in GA, PA, and WI, Trump lost by 110,000 votes or .7% which is about one person out of 143 people committing or benefitting from fraud or election illegalities.

      You still think that is not a possibility, especially given what we’ve seen?

    139. SoHope says:

      Dems think there was 2000 election stealing…”hanging chads”

      Wide spread absentee and ballot harvesting made it easier to game the system and pick where to state based on where it helped most (read college students and people with multiple addresses to pick one).
      Trump was the one to tell all his supporters not to do absentee voting. Dems had it all to themselves.

    140. SoHope says:

      Ohhh that’s a fun game… electoral college with losing states by tens of thousands of votes and not getting the electoral votes the bundling them together and bitching that 180k votes spread out in 4 states would have made John Kerry president or 537 votes in 1 state would make Al Gore President…I’m sorry but that’s a thing losers say. Especially if they lose they popular vote by millions.

    141. SoHope says:

      Trump proved he can win against Hillary Clinton in Rust belt states getting similar numbers to Mitt Romney v Obama. He also proved he can piss off the electorate while having an amazing economy and record of accompishments and lose those same states plus AZ and GA vs a houseplant 4 years later.

    142. Tgca says:

      140

      1st of all, you’re applying all deaths to elderly alone instead of looking by age groups, as I pointed out that requires more inspection.

      You’re also not taking into consideration of quicker faster spread of COVID due to congested NYC where the majority of NY COVID deaths occurred as I noted.

      Also, COVID hit NY hard before FL too so you would think FL should have been better prepared. Cases spiked in NY in March and April 2020 but did not spike in FL until 3 months later so one can argue what did FL do for 3 months to prepare itself?

      For example, AIDS spread greater in congested cities with higher gay populations than in suburbs with smaller gay populations so you can’t equate by one parameter.

      So FL should have had much lower deaths due to the lack of congestion that exists in NY even if it had a larger elderly population.

      …and by your own calculation above, equalizing for the age difference population of 1.3 million than NY should have had roughly 4,500 more COVID deaths if they had the exact elderly percentage but FL still outpaced NY deaths by over 7,000 then so where’s the other 3,000 FL deaths if all else is equal?

      That goes to my point of apples and oranges so thanks for making my point that you can’t look at just one generalized assumption.

      My point was not that Florida did a worse job but that NY and FL had similar results if you account for different circumstances and timing.

    143. Tgca says:

      145

      So your TDS ignores all the election irregularities addressed that did not require a large percentage of fraud to occur throughout the electorate in order for Biden to prevail in a close election.

      Got it!

    144. Tgca says:

      I showed roughly 110,000 votes out of over 15 million in 3 states due to voting irregularities, fraud, and constitutional violations can change an election.

      It’s the equivalent of 1 person cheating out of 143 voters to change an outcome in an otherwise equal election. That is not an unreasonable claim given what we now know where one of those three states highest court had ruled there were voting constitutional violations that benefited Dem areas.

      If we allow fair investigations in the other two states and they came up with similar results, that’s not a loser’s argument but rather evidence that irregularities and constitutional violations changed the outcome of an election.

      Put your TDS aside and look at probabilities. One in 143 occurrences of fraud is all that was necessary to change the outcome. It didn’t have to be massive fraud as a percentage of the voters.

    145. jason says:

      Trump was the one to tell all his supporters not to do absentee voting. Dems had it all to themselves.”

      BS. The problem was not absentee voting. It was mail in voting with millions of ballots floating around with no chain of custody, no signature verification in some of these states, illegal ballot harvesting, illegals voting, drop boxes without any monitoring, R observers not given access to the counting and many other irregularities.

      The concept that Trump should have also stolen the election instead of telling people to vote in person to ensure their vote was counted ignores the fact that is not the way it should work.

      “Dems think there was 2000 election stealing…”hanging chads”

      Jesus, that is the worst fake equivalency we have seen here in awhile.

      Hanging chads in the 2000 election helped Gore, not Bush.

    146. jason says:

      Oh you think he actually won those states…think we can arrange that we certify the 2024 electoral votes based on Trumpsters opinions of the election results that way we don’t lose again?”

      Zzzzzzzz…. you accept voter fraud because it gave you the result you wanted.

      Really sad.

    147. jason says:

      Fauci was not in charge of Covid policy, as I have stated many times before. Only with Biden, not Trump.

      “Dr. Fauci held court in the public eye on a daily basis, so frequently that many misconstrue his role as being in charge. However, it was really Dr. Birx who articulated Task Force policy. All the advice from the Task Force to the states came from Dr. Birx. All written recommendations about their on-the-ground policies were from Dr. Birx. Dr. Birx conducted almost all the visits to states on behalf of the Task Force.”

    148. SoHope says:

      I may have TDS but some on here have Trump’s d$#& firmly lodged in their mouth 24/7.

      I voted for him when I had to because he won the crowded primary and in 2020 when he ran for reelection. If you want me to join you in the cult of trump worship I am not down.

    149. Tgca says:

      WTF have you been all day Jadon?

      Leaving me here all alone fending off the TDS mob all by lil ole self.

    150. Tina says:

      Yes, Brix was in charge. She was sidelined by DR. Atlas In June od 2020.

      She was rhe architect for the lockdowns, manipulated data, and only now admitted that the virus likely originated from a lab. trump was ridiculed by the jebots, Rinos, and drats for making that claim back in 5/2020, which was supported by the dod.

      Had trump won, they would have been axed from the China Virus task force.

      Trump has tired of Fraudci and Brixs perpetual lockdowns since 5/20.

    151. Tina says:

      Dr. Brix was caught violating a travel order in 11/20. She violates pd her own restrictions.

      She is just as bad as Fraudci, if not worse.

      Fraudci knew about the lab leak.

      He needs to be jailed. The Gop-e cannot let Fraudci escape. However, the Gop-e love lock downs, mask mandates, and vax mandates.

    152. Tgca says:

      152

      No one is asking you to support Trump over DeSantis or anyone else against your will.

      We are simply demonstrating what occurred in 2020 and the serious challenges DeSantis has if he fails to resonate with those disenfranchised blue collar and Dem voters Trump brought in to win key states crucial to the GOP presidential success in 2024.

      Now take a knee and all Hail Trump!

    153. Tina says:

      Her own book paints her in a very ugly light.

      As far as lockdowns, yes Trump bought into it, at leas the first two weeks. So, did De Santis who had Covid restrictions lifted in 5/2021.

      Governor Noems no lockdowns was the best R politician for handling Covid.

      In the same light, I rank the Texas governors response toward the bottom.

    154. Tgca says:

      I personally think the best option for Trump is not to run in 2024 because then he can forever claim he was cheated out of a 2020 win without risking a loss in 2024 that would mitigate the likelihood of that claim being tarnished.

      …and with more facts coming out after the fact about that election, I suspect many historians of tomorrow will agree irregularities and constitutional violations occurred that cost Trump the election.

    155. Tina says:

      Brix just made the claim that the virus escaped the lab in todays Daily Mail article.

      In the end, she resigned in December of 2020 because she traveled and was caught.

    156. Tina says:

      With all of her data manipulation, I really cannot vote for Pence. His main duty was the task force.

      He picked a lot of losers for it.

    157. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 17, 2022 at 7:42 pm
      There was only one reason Youngkin carried the Trump base. Donald Trump.

      – You are psychotic in your defense of Trump. Youngkin did everything he could to avoid talking about Trump. “Trump’s base” voted for Youngkin because they wanted to see a Republican win. It had nothing to do with MAGA daddy.

    158. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 17, 2022 at 7:56 pm
      Aren’t you the guy who put Fauci in charge of covid?”.

      Zzzzz..

      Trump never put Fauci in charge of COvid. NEVER.

      Only Amoral Scumbag’s hero and icon Joe Biden has done that.

      – LOL! Talking about rewriting history. Trump turned the covid response over to Fauci and let him use the White House podium to do so.

    159. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 17, 2022 at 8:42 pm
      Lost by against a houseplant by:
      WI 20k
      MI 150k
      PA 90k
      GA 12k
      AZ 11k

      I think he won all those states except MI plus NV.

      More than enough EVs to win fairly easily.

      But of course, voter fraud is perfectly ok if it gets you the result you want.

      – Jason fraud – election denier.

    160. Robbie says:

      Jason fraud is a true Jim Jones cultist for Trump.

      If only his 2015 self could see him now.

    161. Tina says:

      Deborah Birx, Coronavirus Task Force chair.

      Fraudci never headed the task force. He was not it’s Chair.

    162. Tina says:

      Under Biden, Fraudci is the Chief Medical Advisor to the President and Chief Medical Adviser for COVID Response
      Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
      Former member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force

    163. jason says:

      Trump’s base” voted for Youngkin because Trump endorsed him.

      Fixed it for Amoral Scumbag.

    164. jason says:

      Jason fraud – election denier.”

      And proud of it, scumbag troll.

    165. jason says:

      Trump turned the covid response over to Fauci”

      No, the guy you voted for was the one who did that.

    166. jason says:

      Fraudci never headed the task force.”

      Never. He was just a member of the task force which was headed by Pence and chaired by Birx.

    167. jason says:

      Youngkin did everything he could to avoid talking about Trump.”

      Heh…

      Amoral Scumbag wants to rewrite history. Not on my watch.

      Youngkin said the most important issue facing the Commonwealth was “election integrity”.

      and

      “The Republican candidate has said Trump “represents so much of why I’m running,” a comment that has been used repeatedly in Democratic ads, and he said during a debate that if Trump runs again in 2024 and wins the Republican nomination, he will support him. The Republican has also said he was “honored” to receive Trump’s endorsement and has welcomed comparisons to Trump, another businessman-turned-politician.”

    168. Tina says:

      Yup, the Russians hoaxers candidate turned over the Covid response to Frauci

      The hoaxer has never attacked Biden for retaining him, over 2 years since the pandemic.

    169. jason says:

      If only his 2015 self could see him now.”

      This from the guy who called DeSantis a “total bum”, a “Trump clone” and a “clown”.

    170. Tina says:

      Didn’t the hoaxer like the bathroom floor guy over Desantis?

    171. Tgca says:

      Joe Biden hates American soldiers! His own words.

      We will always honor the selfishness and sacrifices of the Americans who served…

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biden-gaffe-on-american-soldiers/

    172. Tgca says:

      173

      I think DeSantis is in good company. I’ve also been called a bum, Trumpster, and clown.

    173. EML says:

      Youngkin and Ciattarelli both did 20+ points than Trump did with non-college educated whites in their states. Your theory that Trump is somehow magically unique in bringing in blue collar voters does not align with the data. By a WIDE margin, blue collar voters have been more likely to vote for Republicans when Trump isn’t on the ballot.”

      Zzzzzz….what a bunch of horsecrap.

      There was only one reason Youngkin carried the Trump base. Donald Trump.
      ==================================
      Honestly, you have to be somewhat mentally disabled to let such stuff come out of your mouth. Glenn Youngkin won VA and did FAR better than Trump did with blue collar voters and it’s all because of….Trump? I should feel bad picking on an obviously mentally handicapped person, but I don’t.

      2020 Trump on the ballot
      Won non-college whites by 24 points
      Lost VA by 11 points

      2021 No Trump on the ballot
      Youngkin won non-college white by 52 points
      Won by 2 points

      But it was all Trump. Ok. Not having Trump on the ballot is worth about 13 points for Republicans and we do far better with non-college educated whites. This asinine idea that Trump is somehow uniquely qualified to attract blue collar voters has been easily disproven by the data.

    174. EML says:

      Heh, the only person that has made the rust belt competitive in 2016 and 2020 was Donald Trump.

      Only people who don’t believe the blue collar vote is important would deny this.
      ===================================
      Well that’s not entirely true, now is it? Republicans have been winning statewide elections in rust belt states for a while now. Scott Walker in particular deserves a lot of credit for turning Wisconsin from a reliable blue state to a purple state.

      But I suppose that is somewhat irrelevant to this conversation anyway. As I have stated umpteen times, Trump deserves a lot of credit for welcoming blue collar workers to the Republican Party in 2016.

      What I reject is you and your butt buddy’s assertion that Trump is somehow uniquely qualified to continue pulling in blue collar voters. For one, the data does not support this assertion. The blue collar voter march to the right continues unabated, without Trump. In fact, doing better without Trump than with Trump. And the reason is that the Democratic Party is entirely focused on woke ideology instead of issues that matter to blue collar voters.

      The two mental deficients pushing this idea that Trump is somehow uniquely qualified to attract blue collar voters are the same idiots who pushed the idea that Trump is uniquely qualified to attract Hispanic voters because of his machismo. Yet, they all refuse to answer how John Cornyn did better with Texas Hispanics than Trump did. Cornyn also did better with blue collar voters than Trump did. I’m sure the question why will also be ignored. The argument has been refuted.

    175. Gordon Allen says:

      Again, absurdity repeated.
      Even in 2018 DeSantis won 17% of the black vote, and over 40% of the Hispanic vote( of which Cubans are a minority) That’s better than Trump ever did in either.
      This year he will get over 50% of the Hispanic and Asian vote, and 20% plus of the black vote( the “Working Class” in Florida) because he endlessly outreaches to them. These are “minority” vote rates Trump has NO chance of ever reaching. None

    176. Gordon Allen says:

      And Florida has a heavy percentage of “minority” votes, since 43% are “minorities”, and whites only are 57%, much lower than the percentage of the White population nationally. And in 4 years the switch in Registration has shifted 4-500,000 votes to the Republicans.
      The landscapers here in this community( 13 sq miles) are heavily Hispanic, and virtually none are Cuban. They and the people from Venezuela are over in Miami. Here there from Latin and South America, and strongly conservative.
      there seems to be a ton of misconceptions out there

    177. jason says:

      This asinine idea that Trump is somehow uniquely qualified to attract blue collar voters has been easily disproven by the data.”

      More sophomoric and superficial “analysis” with no basis on reality. And the statement that Rs do better with blue collar voters without Trump is an absolute lie.

      In 2016 Trump achieved a real realignment in the blue collar vote in the rust belt and upper midwest. He won OH by 500k votes, a state that Obama won by 200k only 4 years before and that used be a “swing state”. Take a working class county where like Stark Co. in Ohio

      Obama 90k
      Romney 88k

      Trump 98k
      Hillary 68k

      This was repeated all over OH, WI, MI, PA and even MN.

      Fluke? No. Even with the bogus impeachment and 95% MSM campaign against him, Mueller, Russian collusion, Covid, etc. Trump won OH again by the same margin and even with the Dems voter scams in all these states pretty much repeated this rust belt/upper midwest performance with narrow “losses”.

      That is real data with Trump actually on the ballot. This is fact.

      Now you want ignore this by claiming that because Youngkin eked out a narrow win in VA (thanks to Trump’s endorsement and a strong turnout by the Trump base and other factors like the education issue) it proves Rs will do better with blue collar workers in true swing states like MI, WI and PA.

      Does DeSantis automatically inherit this vote. No.
      Maybe he can, but right now he doesn’t. Maybe other factors you mention like “wokeism” will doom the Dems.

      But the idea that Rs don’t need the gains Trump made with blue collar voters to win is stupid.

      Your whole “analysis” is only based on one thing. TDS like your TDS obsessed wingman Amoral Scumbag

    178. DW says:

      New Headline…shocking, how could anyone have seen this one coming?

      “Man Claiming to Be Woman Moved Out of Women’s Prison After Impregnating Two Women”

    179. jason says:

      “These are “minority” vote rates Trump has NO chance of ever reaching. None”

      Nevill Allen chimes in with his own stupidity.

      Florida 2008 Obama by 240k votes

      Florida 2012 Obama by 75k votes

      Florida 2016 Trump by 115k votes

      Florida 2020 Trump by 370k votes

      Tell me again how the minority and working class vote is “out of reach” for Trump.

      “Even in 2018 DeSantis won 17% of the black vote, and over 40% of the Hispanic vote( of which Cubans are a minority) That’s better than Trump ever did in either.”

      Heh, DeSantis did so “well” he won by what 40k votes. You are an idiot.

    180. Phil says:

      DeSantis would already do better than Romney with the working class voters right now. There is a realignment taking place (thanks to Trump) assuming the Republicans embrace a direct appeal to that demographic. Is DeSantis there with Trump is garnering support from that working class demographic? No. No Republican besides Trump has EVER been there. DeSantis has POTENTIAL to get there if he works for it….but he has to work for it. It is far from automatic. Trump was unique. If DeSantis runs as a typical establishment Republican he absolutely won’t get there.

    181. EML says:

      But the idea that Rs don’t need the gains Trump made with blue collar voters to win is stupid.
      ================================
      I see you are also not immune to creating strawmen. Literally no one is making this argument.

      Your argument is that blue collar voters will abandon the Republican Party if Trump is not the nominee. Where is the evidence? Show it to me. Your hypothesis necessitates a drop off in blue collar support since Trump left office. The data points to the exact opposite.

      Your argument is actually farcical. Trump won blue collar VA voters by 24. Youngkin won blue collar VA voters by 51. But you claim that was all because of Trump. If that’s the case, THEN WHY DIDN’T TRUMP WIN BLUE COLLAR VOTERS BY 50 POINTS? It’s completely asinine, unless what you’re saying is that we are much better off in 2024 without Trump on the ballot and having him as a surrogate, which I agree with.

      You also fail to address how Jack Ciattarelli in NJ, who didn’t run particularly close to Trump, had the exact same reversal of numbers that Youngkin did in VA. Can’t give Trump credit for that. Ciattarelli famously called Trump a charlatan and was the only non-Trumpist running in the GOP primary. Can’t answer that one, can you?

      Just like you can’t answer how John Cornyn outperformed Trump with both Hispanics and blue collar voters.

      And you inadvertently give me more ammo with the Stark County example. Trump won there by 19.5 points. Republicans won the 2022 primary turnout battle by a whopping 43.4 points. Where’s the drop off? How much does Mike DeWine need to win Stark County by to disprove your theory? He already got 50% more primary votes than did the Trump-endorsed Senate candidate JD Vance.

      Give me evidence of the dropoff. You don’t have any.

    182. jason says:

      Funny how EML is distracting by talking about primaries in VA and NJ and TX (Rs will win anyway), which are not key to winning in 2024 (although if Rs had a chance in VA it would certainly , while I am talking about Rs having to win the rust belt/upper midwest to win.

      “Turnout battle in a primary” has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

      “How much does Mike DeWine need to win Stark County by to disprove your theory?”

      Apples and oranges.

      None of these are in any form relevant to the fact that it was Trump that realigned states like OH, WI, MI, PA and even MN by bringing in the blue collar vote in 2016 and kept them competitive in 2020 despite the fraud.

      There is ZERO evidence DeSantis can keep this important ( I know its not important to the Never Trump, country club R, and TDS crowd) voting R.

      DeSantis may have many qualities, but he is no Donald Trump. If he wants Trumps base, he will have to earn it, it won’t be handed to him on a silver platter.

      That is my point.

      You are the one that has ZERO arguments to refute it.

      “Primary turnout”. What a joke.

    183. jason says:

      Is DeSantis there with Trump is garnering support from that working class demographic? No. No Republican besides Trump has EVER been there. DeSantis has POTENTIAL to get there if he works for it….but he has to work for it. It is far from automatic. Trump was unique. If DeSantis runs as a typical establishment Republican he absolutely won’t get there.”

      Yes, Phil, exactly my point.

      Get ready to be called “mentally deficient” for pointing out the obvious.

      See, contrary to EML’s TDS, I have nothing against DeSantis. I think he is a gifted politician and has been a great governor of Fl. I think he represents the future of the R party.

      But he is not (yet) Donald Trump.

    184. jason says:

      But you claim that was all because of Trump. If that’s the case, THEN WHY DIDN’T TRUMP WIN BLUE COLLAR VOTERS BY 50 POINTS?”

      I didn’t say all. There were other factors such as education and McCauliffe’s missteps.

      But I have no doubt Youngkin would not have had the massive turnout in the Trump counties of 2016 and 2020 without Trump’s endorsement, and Youngkin only won by about 60k votes. Trump’s support was key, it is stupid to deny it.

      In any case, it is a dumb argument. The Trump-Biden race had completely different dynamics than an off year governor’s election 2 years later.

    185. jason says:

      Hey Tgca, I have to work.

      You can deal with the TDS morons for the rest of the day.

    186. EML says:

      Funny how EML is distracting
      ==================================
      I’m sorry that providing factual information to support my opinion is distracting to you. I can see how that would be, since you don’t have any facts to back up your opinions.

      All the evidence points to the Republican Party continuing to gain with blue collar voters. I’m open to new information, but you seem unwilling or unable to provide any.

      But I know that no matter what happens, your brainwashing into the cult of Trump will lead you to spin the results in favor of Trump. If Mastriano and Oz win in PA, it will all be because of Trump. If they lose, it will have nothing to do with Trump, it will be because they aren’t as good as Trump. You can’t have it both ways. I, on the other hand, will take a more nuanced approach and actually look at the facts and the data before offering up an opinion.

      All we know right now is that Trump is a proven loser in WI, MI, and PA. Not sure why we’d want a proven loser to be our nominee. It’d be like nominating Hillary or Romney again. All losers.

    187. EML says:

      Youngkin more than doubled Trump’s margin amongst blue collar voters in VA. But it was all because of Trump. In what universe does this make any sense? It makes even less sense since you are unable to answer how non-Trumpian Ciattarelli accomplished the exact same thing in NJ.

      But you got one thing right: the Trump-Biden dynamic was different. That’s because Trump gins up the Democratic vote more than anyone or anything ever has. Why would we give them that ammunition in a year when their enthusiasm should be depressed based on the state of the economy?

    188. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 17, 2022 at 10:59 pm
      Jason fraud – election denier.”

      And proud of it, scumbag troll.

      – That’s nothing to be proud of, Trump chump.

    189. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 17, 2022 at 11:09 pm

      Youngkin said the most important issue facing the Commonwealth was “election integrity”.

      – Election integrity has nothing to do with avoiding having to be seen with Trump on the campaign trail and that’s precisely what Youngkin did. He didn’t want to get anywhere near MAGA daddy and he didn’t.

      You’re surpassing Tinfoil in your bizarre lovefest for Trump. And also, Trump lost the election, you fraud.

    190. Robbie says:

      EML says:
      July 18, 2022 at 7:26 am
      What I reject is you and your butt buddy’s assertion that Trump is somehow uniquely qualified to continue pulling in blue collar voters.

      – As I have written previously, Jason fraud will attack DeSantis to prop up Trump and that’s just what he’s doing here. It’s not a direct attack, but Jason fraud and the other Trump cultists don’t feel they have to do that right now. They just nibble around the edges or claim other candidates just can’t put together the coalition MAGA daddy did to get just 47% of the vote nationally twice.

      Jason fraud’s argument that only MAGA daddy can win with blue collar voters is stupid, obviously, but for Jason fraud the only history that exists is what happened in a fluke on election night 2016. Because Clinton ran an awful campaign and Trump won PA, MI, and WI by razor slim margins, that means only he can do it again.

      What Jason fraud and the other morons fear is another candidate, without MAGA daddy’s baggage, will run and win those states with some ease and put an end to the silly talking points they’ve been puking up for the last six years.

      Jason fraud and the others are out to preserve the emotional high to they felt on election night 2016. Nothing more. Nothing less. And if they eventually have to tear down DeSantis or some other Republican to preserve Trump, they’ll do it.

    191. jason says:

      What a great pair of TDS morons, the EML-Amoral Scumbag tag team.

      Amoral Scumbag and EML can get a room where they can whine about about how terrible Trump is.

      TDS is really one heck of a sickness.

    192. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 18, 2022 at 8:15 am
      In 2016 Trump achieved a real realignment in the blue collar vote in the rust belt and upper midwest. He won OH by 500k votes, a state that Obama won by 200k only 4 years before and that used be a “swing state”. Take a working class county where like Stark Co. in Ohio

      Obama 90k
      Romney 88k

      Trump 98k
      Hillary 68k

      – Yet more evidence that for Jason fraud, history began and ended with the 2016 election. It’s all he’s got back up his Trump worship so he just repeats it over and over again.

      In 2012, Romney was a uniquely awful candidate to run at the dawn of the Tea Party era. I made that point over and over again during the primaries and the general, but Jason fraud and other regulars assured me Romney was a great candidate. Wrong. He stunk. He was a terrible candidate and he ran a terrible campaign. Obama was very beatable, but we ran a lifeless stiff who had a car elevator.

      Comparing Trump’s 2016 performance to Romney’s 2012 performance and saying it proves only Trump can win working class voters is cherry picking at its worst, but that’s all Jason fraud’s got until he and the other Trumpers feel they have to attack DeSantis directly.

    193. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Birx comments in the Daily Mail are an incredible admission. Social media would censor these comments if a member of the public attempted to post them:

      “Former President Donald Trump’s adviser believes Covid-19 could have leaked from a Wuhan lab where scientists were working on vaccines for similar viruses.
      Infectious diseases expert and former presidential Covid adviser Dr Deborah Birx told The Mail on Sunday that coronavirus ‘came out of the box ready to infect’ when it emerged in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2020.
      The adviser said most viruses take months or years to become highly infectious to humans. But, Dr Birx said, Covid ‘was already more infectious than flu when it first arrived’.
      She said that meant Covid was either an ‘abnormal thing of nature’ or that Chinese scientists were ‘working on coronavirus vaccines’ and became infected.
      ‘It happens, labs aren’t perfect, people aren’t perfect, we make mistakes and there can be contamination,’ she said.
      She accused China of initially covering up how infectious Covid was.
      Birx said Covid’s infectiousness was consistent with a virus which had been experimented on in a lab.
      ‘In laboratories you grow the virus in human cells, allowing it to adapt more. Each time it passes through human cells it becomes more adapted,’ she said.”

    194. jason says:

      Amoral Scumbag lies so much he doesn’t know where one lie begins and another ends.

      He claims to “support” DeSantis, when he actually supported a communist against him while calling him a clown, a Trump clone and a total bum.

      The difference is that if DeSantis wins the nomination, I will support him, while Amoral Scumbag will be here with the same old leftist talking points against him, nothing will be too sordid or too low.

      I have not said ONE word that can be remotely construed as an attack on DeSantis, I certainly don’t call him a clown or a bum.

      My point is that DeSantis has not shown he can put together a winning coalition that Trump did in 2016 and that in 2020 put him within 42k fraudulent votes in 3 states of winning. I have not said he cannot do it, I just said I am not sure he has the same appeal to blue collar votes that Trump does.

      If that is offensive to the TDS morons, so be it.

    195. jason says:

      He was a terrible candidate and he ran a terrible campaign.”

      But yet Amoral Scumbag actually suggested him a a viable candidate in 2020.

    196. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      July 18, 2022 at 8:57 am
      DeSantis would already do better than Romney with the working class voters right now. There is a realignment taking place (thanks to Trump) assuming the Republicans embrace a direct appeal to that demographic.

      – That realignment started long before MAGA daddy came along in 2016. It had its roots in the 2008 financial crisis, but it took hold in political form in the 2009/10 rise of the Tea Party. That political realignment is what brought Republicans their huge wins in 2010 and 2014. It was there and happening long before Trump came down the escalator.

      The only reason Republicans weren’t able to capitalize on the realignment in 2012 is because the party nominated Romney. As I said at the time, he was the worst possible candidate for the Tea Party era. He was a stiff who had no connection to emerging base of the party. It’s why there was such a groundswell for Christie and it’s why Newton Leroy Gingrich, Rick Santorum, “Herb” Cain, and even crazy Michelle Bachman all had boomlets that Romney had to kill off. The base voters wanted someone other than Romney.

    197. jason says:

      but Jason fraud and other regulars assured me Romney was a great candidate. ”

      He was the best Rs had in 2012. Sometimes the best candidates lose.

      But who are you to throw stones?

      You supported arguably the WORST “front runner” “clear the field” “suck up the money” in campaign history, Jeb Bush. Now THAT was a truly horrible candidate. HE was the one that ran the worst campaign in the history of primaries, and who spent 250 million for 4 delegates.

      Romney was a God compared to your man Jeb.

    198. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      July 18, 2022 at 8:57 am
      Trump was unique. If DeSantis runs as a typical establishment Republican he absolutely won’t get there.

      – Yes, Trump was unique. Uniquely awful. Have we all just memory holed him attacking a Gold Star family in 2016?

      Regardless, DeSantis, since he was elected, has shown himself to be the cleverest Republican I can remember for several decades. He knows precisely how to speak to the issues that matter to the base of the party without alienating the non-base of the party. And he’s done that while somehow finding issues that get Democrat support in polls as well.

      Contrast DeSantis with Ducey. I think Ducey has proven to be one of the better R governors over the last 30 years, but his style doesn’t mesh with the base. If he ran for president in 2024, he’d go nowhere. His policies are pretty much a carbon copy of what DeSantis pushes, but the tone is different.

    199. EML says:

      What is your evidence that I am afflicted with TDS? Because I think there is a better candidate for 2024? Is that all it takes? Anyone who thinks that Trump is not the best candidate for 2024 has TDS?

    200. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 18, 2022 at 11:02 am
      He was a terrible candidate and he ran a terrible campaign.”

      But yet Amoral Scumbag actually suggested him a a viable candidate in 2020.

      – I think any Republican not named Trump would’ve beaten a near comatose Biden.

      Your hero Trump was the only “Republican” who could’ve lost to Biden and he did just that. He lost to a man who probably can’t eat solid foods and needs midday naps.

    201. Robbie says:

      EML says:
      July 18, 2022 at 11:11 am
      What is your evidence that I am afflicted with TDS? Because I think there is a better candidate for 2024? Is that all it takes? Anyone who thinks that Trump is not the best candidate for 2024 has TDS?

      – It’s all Jason fraud’s got at this point.

    202. jason says:

      What is your evidence that I am afflicted with TDS? Because I think there is a better candidate for 2024? Is that all it takes? Anyone who thinks that Trump is not the best candidate for 2024 has TDS?”

      Because you use all the Lincoln Project talking points against Trump verbatim.

      And I never said I think Trump is the best candidate for 2024, so stop lying about my position.

      I am on record as saying the best outcome for 2024 is that Trump not run and endorse DeSantis.

      You are the one that seem offended by a different opinion, which is that any R candidate in 2024, including DeSantis, will need the blue collar vote Trump brought into the R party. My view is DeSantis, contrary to yours, is not guaranteed that vote.

      Only someone with TDS like Amoral Scumbag should be offended by that opinion, but it seems to have triggered you to post the same talking points that he does.

      GFY.

    203. jason says:

      I think Ducey has proven to be one of the better R governors over the last 30 years”

      Yeah, so good he was a sniveling coward that was afraid he couldn’t win a primary.

      So good he refused to do the right thing and let the Dems steal the election in AZ.

      Screw Ducey. I hope he never shows up for another election.

    204. jason says:

      – I think any Republican not named Trump would’ve beaten a near comatose Biden.”

      Yeah, you also think any R could have beaten Hillary, when the truth is only Trump could have beaten her.

      Thinking is not your forte.

    205. jason says:

      According to Amoral Scumbag, DeSantis is a clown, a total bum, and a Trump clone.

      And none of this “I like how he governed since BS”, that dog won’t hunt.

      Remember Amoral Scumbag is still quoting what I said in 2015, even though I have said I was wrong about Trump and judge him by how he governed for years on end now.

      Obviously “how one governed” it is not something Amoral Scumbag really believes in.

    206. jason says:

      Now take a knee and all Hail Trump!”

      Yes, hallelujah.

      It will trigger the TDS morons!

    207. EML says:

      My view is DeSantis, contrary to yours, is not guaranteed that vote.
      ==============================
      Yet another strawman from yet another perpetual liar. I have never said that anyone was guaranteed of anything, and that includes Trump. Trump is not guaranteed the blue collar vote. In fact, Trump went backwards with blue collar voters between 2016 and 2020. Who’s to say if that trend would continue on to 2024 if he ran.

      But since Trump’s been off the ballot, it’s been full speed ahead for blue collar voters abandoning the Democratic Party in 2021 and 2022. All evidence points to the fact that Trump is not needed to win blue collar support.

    208. jason says:

      If you really think DeSantis will be the R nominee you can triple your money at Predictit. Yes, you will have to wait more than a year, but where can you get that kind of return elsewhere?

      BTW, I think it is a good bet. I think the odds of DeSantis being the nominee are about 70%.

      Yes, I do accept commissions.

      https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7053/Who-will-win-the-2024-Republican-presidential-nomination

    209. Gordon Allen says:

      If there’s not enough to worry about: the HASC report on the 2023 NDAA finds “military aid to Ukraine has seriously depleted our weapons stockpiles to dangerously low levels, and the defense industry does not at present have the capacity to replenish them for a number of years”
      The Committee is voting to spend more on munitions, but it will take years to finish replenishment;

    210. Tina says:

      Bannons hoax trial begins today.

      I don’t see how he can be found guilty since nobody has been prosecuted for this in over 250 years.

      But it’s a Dc jury full of dumb arses like the jebots.

    211. Phil says:

      Trump is the only candidate who could have beaten Hillary in 2016. Jeb or Rubio would have never carried Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin…and probably not even Iowa….and when I said “unique” I mean unique in the sense of being able to do what he did in the rust belt.

    212. Tina says:

      The Club for Chinas Growth pac has polled Wyoming and loon Cheney is trailing by 28 points.

    213. jason says:

      Trump went backwards with blue collar voters between 2016 and 2020.”

      Not sure that is correct. Of the 4 states I mentioned as key for the blue collar vote, he won OH by the same margin. The difference between his numbers in WI between 2016 and 2020 were negligible (winning by 11k and “losing’ by 20k). Not sure the losses in MI and PA were due to drop off in blue collar support, I very much doubt it.

      I would like to see ONE poll showing stronger blue collar support for DeSantis than Trump in any of these states.

      There aren’t any.

    214. Gordon Allen says:

      In a similar vein NATO “leaked” a report on Ukraine’s assessment of weapons it needs to “prevail( eject the Russians). I stopped after the first item. It needs 1,000 M777 Howitzers( 1st item on the list). This seemed an extraordinary number.
      I checked: the total current inventory for the US Army and Marine Corps is 980. 108 are already pledged.
      These numbers shouldn’t need any further comment.

    215. Phil says:

      I see another poll just came out showing DeSantis beating Trump in Florida 61-39. Ideally I’d like to see Trump announce he wasn’t running and that he was endorsing DeSantis. Knowing Trump that isn’t happening.

      I know one thing. When the dust settles the Never Trumpers in the Republican Party will never support DeSantis any more than they would support Trump and you’re welcome to bookmark this one. DeSantis winning the nomination will result in Robbie going back to calling DeSantis a clown and the Lincoln Project morons will just shift their target to DeSantis. Guaranteed. Book it.

    216. EML says:

      I would like to see ONE poll showing stronger blue collar support for DeSantis than Trump in any of these states.
      ==================================
      I want you to show me polls from 2022 where Trump does better with blue collar voters than DeSantis in OH, WI, MI, and PA, because I think you are asking for something that doesn’t exist.

    217. Cash Cow TM says:

      Can ANYONE tell me of how many people went to DC on Jan. 6 for the Trump RALLY?

      Can anyone tell me how many of those marched on the capitol?

      Did some people who did NOT go the rally, go directly to the capitol?

      Can anyone tell me how many who went to the capitol used force to break in windows and doors?

      Can anyone tell me how many people from the rally went to the capitol and were just spectators watching what was transpiring?

      Can anyone tell me how many people entered the capitol?
      [NEWS REPORTS say the FBI/capitol police say about 2,500 entered.]

      [There have been 850 arrests, and they are seeking HUNDREDs–NOT thousands more]

      Can anyone tell me how many of the 2,500 people who entered the capitol did so through doors that capitol police themselves opened and stood there while protestors/others walked by them? vs. how many people who entered through doors and windows the protestors broke down?

      [apparently there are at least 7 videos that show police opening/unlocking doors and letting people in]

      Can anyone tell me how many of the 2,500 people who entered the capitol committed acts of violence, theft, destruction of property, assault of officers, etc.?

      Can anyone tell me how many of the 2500 who entered the capitol did nothing but, calmly walk through peaceably, did no damage or vandalism or assaults and only took videos with their hand-held cameras?

      Inquiring cows want to know.

    218. SoHope says:

      220 is a pretty good writeup

    219. Tgca says:

      TDS is running amok here at HHR. Me thinks they’re freaking out Trump will announce a 2024 bid for POTUS.

      Jadon and me are now accused of being butt buddies by the Liz Cheney Republican EML who is now 69ing with Robbie and swallowing anything he spews out.

      I guess Jadon and the EXPERT in all things except all things gay to which I defer to LisaB are inseparable allies after all because butt buddies are not easy to pry apart.

    220. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      July 18, 2022 at 12:18 pm
      Ideally I’d like to see Trump announce he wasn’t running and that he was endorsing DeSantis.

      – At this point, I think it’s pretty clear Trump’s decided to run because he believes it will shield him from legal action. He may or may not be right on that point. I don’t know. Regardless, Trump’s not making this decision because he believes he has unfinished policy goals.

      My guess is there is just one way to truly keep Trump out if the race completely. The DoJ would come to him and make clear they grounds to indict him, but they will refrain from doing so if he refrains from running for public office again. That won’t happen so he’ll run.

      I think Trump announcing he’ll run is a fait accompli. He may, though, bow out at some point in 2023 if DeSantis continues to gain strength in the polling. As Allahpundit pointed out, Trump’s entire ethos would be destroyed if he got beaten in the primary after having lost the general four years earlier.

    221. Tina says:

      Cringeshaw needs to re read the bill. This guy is an idiot.

      Thank you for your service.

      Dan Crenshaw
      @DanCrenshawTX

      US House candidate, TX-02
      · 20h
      No, the stupid rumor spreading on social media that myself and 148 other Republicans voted for a bill to kick unvaccinated service members out of the military is not true.

    222. NYCmike says:

      jason says:
      July 18, 2022 at 10:53 am

      What a great pair of TDS morons, the EML-Amoral Scumbag tag team.

      Amoral Scumbag and EML can get a room where they can whine about about how terrible Trump is.

      TDS is really one heck of a sickness.

      -jason,

      How you can mix EML’s arguments up with Robbie’s shows you to be real nincompoop.

      While both EML and SoHope CLEARLY don’t like Trump personally, and that definitely affects their judgment to some degree, at least they are trying to make reasoned arguments. Robbie simply hates Trump, and he continues to say ZERO about the terrible results of not re-electing Trump.

    223. NYCmike says:

      Tina,

      Which bill is he speaking about?

    224. Tgca says:

      220

      I think if Trump jumps in, a Big IF, you will see support for DeSantis dwindle. I suspect many don’t expect Trump is running, hence, the shifting towards DeSantis and moving on to the next generation in these early polls. Let’s see what happens if Trump announces a 2024 bid 1st before anointing DeSantis the heir apparent.

      If Trump starts holding UUUUUGE rallies on DeSantis turf, and he will, that will split the GOP and suck the oxygen out of the room and embarrass DeSantis if he is also running in 2024.

      DeSantis can’t compete with Trump in followers and the media.

      I would vote for Trump in the FL primary if it were held today. If it gets nasty and all out war, like many GOPers, I might not support the opposing candidate in the GE if they win the primary because I do believe in loyalty, especially when DeSantis was groomed by Trump.

      I do not trust peeps who turn their back on those that helped make them in the 1st place. DeSantis ran as a Trump GOPer. It would be like John Kasich running against Reagan in the 80s.

      Remember, DeSantis was a relatively unknown before he latched onto Trump as his meal ticket in FL politics.

    225. NYCmike says:

      Trump’s policies were the exact opposite of what Biden has done.

      Robbie, SoHope, EML,

      Which policies in place on Jan 19, 2020 are you glad were changed by President Biden?

      Which ones do you want to see go back to Trump-era policies?

    226. Tina says:

      The Ndaa, Ny.

    227. Tina says:

      Lol

      Mark Vargas
      @MarkAVargas
      · 12m
      Gov. Pritzker told the FL Democratic Party on Saturday that Gov. DeSantis “is really just Donald Trump with a mask on.” Well Pritzker is really just Howard Taft without a mustache.

    228. NYCmike says:

      I suspect DeSantis will applaud most of what Trump did, but point out that he has done a better job in Florida than Trump did nationally when it came to covid and the woke agenda.

      The more I see DeSantis, the more I think he can beat Trump in a primary, even though personally I would rather not see that battle. jason is correct, the Republican Party doesn’t need a fight between Trump and DeSantis at all!

    229. Tgca says:

      226

      Stoopid argument.

      The DOJ threatening to indict and prosecute a former US President if he runs again would guarantee jail time for those DOJ employees and most likely bring down the Biden presidency and guarantee Trump a win if the current admin used its justice department to disenfranchise American voters.

      It would also result in impeachment of Biden and forever vindicate Trump as the victim of gubbermint abuse, completely dismantling the J6C relevance and destroying the credibility of the DOJ for years to come.

      That is extortion!

    230. NYCmike says:

      “The Ndaa, Ny.”

      -Ok.

      Will jason, Bitterlaw and others say Tina is incorrect?

      Will it end up being that Tina was correct?

      I’m guessing Yes and Yes.

    231. NYCmike says:

      “All we know right now is that Trump is a proven loser in WI, MI, and PA.”

      -EML,

      Don’t we also know that he is a proven winner in those states?

    232. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      July 18, 2022 at 1:01 pm
      Trump’s policies were the exact opposite of what Biden has done.

      – I’m not sure how many times this has to be explained to you, but Trump had no policies other than idiotic trade wars. By the way, were they good and easy to win?

      Trump outsourced his policy agenda to Paul Ryan and the Republican House. The tax cuts were Paul Ryan’s. The defense spending was from Mac Thornberry. The judicial nominations came from the Leonard Leo at the Federalist Society.

      For the love God, stop acting as if Trump cared one iota about policy. He was policy illiterate. He only cared about punishing those who didn’t bow down to him.

      We would have gotten everything we got during the Trump years (minus the trade wars) with any other Republican. Give it a rest.

    233. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      July 18, 2022 at 1:08 pm
      226

      Stoopid argument.

      The DOJ threatening to indict and prosecute a former US President if he runs again would guarantee jail time for those DOJ employees and most likely bring down the Biden presidency and guarantee Trump a win if the current admin used its justice department to disenfranchise American voters.

      It would also result in impeachment of Biden and forever vindicate Trump as the victim of gubbermint abuse, completely dismantling the J6C relevance and destroying the credibility of the DOJ for years to come.

      That is extortion!

      – Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

      And every time you write “gubbermint” you lose the argument so stop acting like Tinfoil.

    234. Tina says:

      I think there is a real risk of indictment for Trump.

      It’s because the partisan Doj owes Biden a win here to satisfy the Jebot loon base.

      It’s complete bs.

      With that said, we need to make sure that the house and senate committees are chaired by scorchers.

      Impeachment against Biden for lying about his relationships with his crackpot sot and foreign gubment.

      And the crackpot head of the injustice department needs to be impeached for lying about sending the fib goons to investigate parents protesting school board meetings. This became an issue in Virginia governors race.

    235. Tgca says:

      234

      Only DeSantis would be BSing. “FL ranked 3rd in total deaths and had 3 months to avoid the same COVID fate as NY” would be the counter argument as the peak did not hit FL until early summer as opposed to early spring in the northeast.

      …and no one challenged the radical left and wokeism more than Trump. DeSantis just followed Trump’s lead so that’s silly to argue. This can be easily proven by looking at dates where Trump criticized the woke agenda compared to DeSantis.

      As for lockdowns, I lived in FL and NJ, going back and forth during COVID and FL was just as much locked down as Jersey with respect to everyday life including north, south, and central FL. Many businesses had reduced hours due to labor shortages and people were wearing masks all over FL through 2021 and FL continued paying people not to work through June 2021.

      As much as I think she’s a lightweight, Gubbernor Noem can make a better COVID argument than DeSantis.

    236. Tina says:

      Trump did not lose Wisconsin.

      The Supreme Court has found that the election to be fraudulent.

      Also, the mess in Georgia was not resolved thanks to Governor Hee haw and the idiotic sos doing nothing, I would vote for hee haw over Jabba the Hutt, but never vote for the sos, if I had the chance.

      Hoping that election fraud goes away is stupid. Criminals that did it once will repeat it again.

    237. Tina says:

      Tgca, we would need to vote solely for Noem (SD) if we want to vote for somebody on our side, who had no Covid restrictions.

      Fact is Desantis had them. He pulled them in May of 2021.

      He was not the best in regards to this matter, nor the worst on our side. He was better than many.

    238. Tgca says:

      239

      Well, if that is t the pot calling the kettle black with regards to be taken seriously here.

      My reference to gubbermint is sheer comedy and meant to mock, as I am the HHR anointed “class clown.”

      Your reference to TDS is real and demonstrates mental instability!

      See the difference? I guess not.

      You’re like the girlfriend that can’t getting over be dumped and years later is still stalking her ex with crazy a$$ rants.

    239. NYCmike says:

      “We would have gotten everything we got during the Trump years (minus the trade wars) with any other Republican. Give it a rest.”

      -Robbie,

      In the past, when I have stated that Congress has the main responsibility over legislation, you have argued along with Wes and jason and others that Congress couldn’t do anything without Trump.

      NOW, you are arguing that it was all Congress, that Trump “out-sourced” his policy agenda.

      Which one is it?

      That said, Biden came in on Day 1 of his term and reversed just about EVERY POLICY, foreign and domestic, that we had under Trump…….which do you prefer…….the Trump policy agenda in affect prior to Jan 20, 2021 or the Biden policy agenda in affect now?

    240. Tina says:

      Bannon should take a bend trial.

      The jebots in dc are dumber than sheot.

      Jack Posobic ??
      @JackPosobiec
      ·
      5m
      Potential DC juror just told the judge that he won’t believe anything Bannon says bc of who he ‘affiliates’ with
      53
      115
      400

      Jack Posobic ??
      @JackPosobiec
      ·
      11m
      A potential DC juror just told the judge that he could be impartial but admitted in court he dislikes Steve Bannon

    241. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      So the leftist social policies that woke Starbucks supports have now resulted in so much crime that Starbucks is closing stores in crime-ridden areas:

      @thehoffather
      EXCLUSIVE: Today at an internal meeting CEO Howard Schultz said: “Starbucks is a window into America… we are facing things in which the stores were not built for… we’re listening to our people and closing stores, & this is just the beginning. There are gonna be many more. ?

    242. NYCmike says:

      “…and no one challenged the radical left and wokeism more than Trump.”

      -Disagree with this.

      Even the military has gone woke. Trump had 4 years to do something about it, but didn’t. I think DeSantis knows much more about using Executive/administrative power than Trump does, specifically in the government sector.

    243. Tgca says:

      243

      Agreed! I support DeSantis but I live in FL and DeSantis has a very friendly environment to get much done with the GOP in complete control of the state and courts except for one office, Agricultural Commission by Nikki Fried.

      DeSantis and team should have acted faster on COVID having 3 months notice before the peak hit here but like many states, they missed an opportunity and weren’t prepared.

      To now try and rewrite history that FL was the Gold Standard for COVID management is silly.

    244. EML says:

      Mike, unlike Jason, I voted for Trump in 2020. I would vote for him again in 2024. I have never voted for a Democrat. I don’t approve of anything Biden has done. My interest is in making sure Republicans win elections and stop the leftward shift of the country before it’s too late. The Trump cultists here seem only to be interested in getting Trump elected and couldn’t care less about anything else.

      I think the economy is so bad, that Trump beats Biden in 2024. But I don’t think Biden runs and I am less sure of Trump beating other Democrats. Trump gins up Democratic turnout more than anything we’ve ever seen. He drives up Democratic voter turnout more than he does Republican voter turnout (proof: 2020). I don’t know why we’d do that. It is an unforced error.

      IMO, DeSantis brings many of Trump’s positives. IE, going after the left (covid restrictions, don’t say gay) and not backing down from a fight (redistricting). All without Trump’s negatives (sexual accusations, January 6, still fighting 2020 results, the constant stream of lies on twitter).

      I think we need to move on from Trump, Jan 6, and all the nonsense that comes along with the Trump circus. The Trump cultist’s sole argument seems to be that he will drive up blue collar and Hispanic voters more than anything else, but the information we have from 2021 and 2022 shows that Republicans are doing even better with these groups without Trump on the ballot.

    245. NYCmike says:

      Noem was fantastic in regard to covid.

      Then, she acted stupidly when it came to the bill about women’s sports.

      That was a YUGE blunder.

    246. Tgca says:

      248

      DeSantis has a completely friendly gubbermint at his disposal. Things work differently on the federal level and you should know that.

      Trump would get blocked immediately by the courts where here in FL, the state courts often bow to the GOP.

      …and it’s Congress that makes the laws and if you remember, GOP senators like McCain were supporting the wokeism in the military so Trump did not even have the Congressional votes early on to pass anti-woke bills against Big Tech and others thanks to GOP politicians.

      Trump ridiculed wokeism all the time but where were the GOP led Congressional bills for him to sign? Go ask Lindsay and McConnell.

      Again, DeSantis followed Trump’s lead.

    247. Tina says:

      For being an “idiot” trump was right about Covid,

      Wanted no lockdowns after 15 days. Told states to reopen when the Rinos, Jebot hoaxer, and drats attacked him,.

      Was right that it escaped the lab.

      Was doubtful of the motives of Fraudci and dr. Brix, the chairperson of the task force.

      Got us a vaccine in 10 months as well as the anitbody treatments,

      The current administration has not improved rhe vaccine and its Pfizer pill treatment does not work.

    248. EML says:

      DeSantis proved that the 2 year lockdown like we had in NY and the destruction of the economy that came with it was totally unnecessary. That’s why he’s the gold standard and a hero.

    249. Tina says:

      It’s a cesspool.

      Jack Posobic ??
      @JackPosobiec
      ·
      7m
      Great reporting from
      @Peoples_Pundit
      on War Room today

      DC jury pool has a 95% bias against Republicans with a strong ‘Illusory Truth Effect’

      There is no way for a prominent conservative to receive a fair trial there

    250. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I would prefer DeSantis as the Republican candidate in 2024. But the election is going to focus on the economy, and Trump can point out how strong the economy was during his first term, and that he can bring the economy back by following the same economy policies. In this situation experience matters. Trump is also not afraid to take on the woke mob, although DeSantis has a good record in this regard to.

    251. Tgca says:

      250

      As I said before, DeSantis is the new Trump in the left’s mind.

      He is widely despised by the left because he is not only seen as the heir apparent to Trump but he piggy backs on to all that is Trump.

      DeSantis is Trump’s mini-me!

      To believe he won’t also drive up Dem voter turnout with his perceived anti-gay, anti-education, anti-woman, anti-trans, and pro-white agenda shows how little you know about DeSantis.

      Dems see FL as the epitome of what’s wrong with the GOP and the US and will crawl over broken glass me thinks to avoid moving the US towards a FL state just as conservatives will do with Newsom trying to make America more like CA.

      DeSantis is HATED here in south Florida among the left as much if not more than Trump. He is perceived as trying to disenfranchise minority voters, specifically AA by pushing for favorable districting as well.

      If DeSantis is the nominee, look for 24/7 demonization by the MSM, Big Tech, and woke corporations.

      You already have major politicians running against him from the CA Gubbernor to the NYC Mayor.

      DeSantis has a favorable environment to protect him in FL but once he steps out on to the national stage, that will be his real test. He will not command the clout he has in FL.

    252. NYCmike says:

      EML,

      Agreed, on just about every count, except for the “Trump cultists” remarks. Trump deserves great respect for his accomplishments while President, and the last 18 months have shown how great those accomplishments were, and should be part of any conversation leading up to 2024.

      While I would love to see Trump win in 2024, I do see the danger that he poses, in that he may gin up such a turnout on the Democratic side as to lose again…….especially if so-called “Republicans” don’t accept that there are clear discrepancies from the 2020 election.

      I do agree with jason that a Trump vs DeSantis fight is not good for the Republican Party.

    253. Tina says:

      Breaking Fraudci will retire at the end of Biden’s term.

      He knows trump will fire him

      But the Rs need to ,are a criminal referral on him.

      They cannot let him go free.

    254. NYCmike says:

      Wow, an actual discussion without name-calling breaks out on HHR! Great job, people!

      SDC, That’s the way I see it – Both Trump and Desantis are better choices than any Democrat. Hopefully those with TDS, like Robbie, “CG” and SoHope, and Walt, can see that and vote accordingly, whichever one wins the primary, if either one runs.

    255. Tgca says:

      254

      Only FL’s economy also got destroyed in the process as other states and suffered from extreme labor shortages because it provided welfare waaaay beyond needed.

      In FL, which has a large working class population, it was cheaper to stay at home getting state and federal monies than work.

      DeSantis finally cut off the subsidies beginning July 2021, 16 months after the pandemic hit and nearly a year after FL hit it’s 1st peak. In my opinion, that was a bit late to act.

    256. Tgca says:

      260

      Don’t worry. My butt buddy Jadon will be back later.

    257. Tgca says:

      …and to the silly view that Trump did not start the revolution of moving blue collar and certain minority groups towards the GOP, as if it would happen on its own is like saying Reagan did not push the conservative agenda to the forefront in the 80s.

      TDSers can’t have it both ways. If Trump is not the leader in the GOP realignment to working class and increased minority support than Reagan was not the leader of the conservative agenda in the 80s.

    258. NYCmike says:

      “To believe he won’t also drive up Dem voter turnout with his perceived anti-gay, anti-education, anti-woman, anti-trans, and pro-white agenda shows how little you know about DeSantis.”

      -Not so sure about this, Tgca.

      Trump is a narcissist, and refuses to let any slight go unpunished. He had many unforced errors in the past 6 years. DeSantis has shown great discipline on a personal level, as have the people hired to be in his administration.

    259. NYCmike says:

      There is no doubt that Trump started the revolution of moving blue collar and certain minority groups towards the GOP – he wouldn’t have won in 2016 without that move, and wouldn’t have gotten the number of votes in 2020 that he did.

    260. EML says:

      It looks like we’re all agreed, then. The best case scenario for 2024 is if Trump stands aside and backs DeSantis as the nominee.

    261. NYCmike says:

      #265 should start a good conversation……

    262. NYCmike says:

      “It looks like we’re all agreed, then. The best case scenario for 2024 is if Trump stands aside and backs DeSantis as the nominee.”

      -That would be very George Washington-like of Trump………do you see that happening?

    263. EML says:

      That would be very George Washington-like of Trump………do you see that happening?
      ===============================
      My only hope is that Trump likes his role as kingmaker. If he can see clearly, he will recognize that staying out is a win-win, and he likes to win. We see in this thread how Trump cultists think. If Trump backs DeSantis and he wins, all the credit is because of Trump’s backing. If he loses, it’s because DeSantis is a bad candidate who is not as good as Trump. Either way, Trump comes out unscathed.

    264. Robbie says:

      Ben Jacobs
      @Bencjacobs
      For a glimpse at the bizarro world of 2016, #azgov candidate Kari Lake (who is now running on a platform of conspiracy theories about the 2020 election) expresses her support for/openness to voting by cell phone (At the 9:10 mark in full video) https://facebook.com/TheKariLake/videos/1078860688867248

      – But muh election integrity. Kari Lake is a huckster so it’s no surprise Trump and Jason fraud fell for her schtick.

    265. Tina says:

      Oil is up $4 today, after the disastrous trip by Biden to Saudi Arabia.

      Has Biden even been seen today?

    266. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “A transgender prisoner believed to have impregnated two female inmates after being transferred to a women’s prison has been removed from the New Jersey facility.

      Demi Minor, 27, is now incarcerated at the Garden State Youth Correctional Facility in Burlington County, a prison for young adult offenders, after previously being housed at the Edna Mahan Correctional Facility for women.””

    267. Tina says:

      You will have to do this.

      Rep. Darrell Issa
      @repdarrellissa
      ·
      5h
      Nobody is buying Hunter Biden and the Biden family are completely divested from their shady business dealings.

    268. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      266. “looks like we’re all agreed, then. The best case scenario for 2024 is if Trump stands aside and backs DeSantis as the nominee.”

      At this point I don’t agree. I like that Trump remains politically active as it seems to terrify the Democrats. Will decide between Trump and DeSantis in 2023/2024. Trump’s health will be a factor.

    269. Tina says:

      #274 seems reasonable, I don’t think he will run due to his age.

      If he does, I will assess at that time.

    270. Tgca says:

      Oh puhleez!

      I agree Trump is a narcissist and self-centered, maybe more so than many other politicians, wearing it on his sleeve but to think DeSantis does not have these same traits is pure ignorance.

      DeSantis has ruled as an authoritarian, very in your face, my way or the highway, I’m right and you’re wrong leader in a very safe state and that’s fine by me but to claim he’s somehow an above the fray guy is absurd. He purposely punished Disney to the detriment of it’s shareholders because they dared to disagree and challenge him because he knew he could get away with it in FL but bringing that mentality to DC and nationally is very Trumpish. If a Dem Gubbernor did this to say Chick-fil-a what he did to Dusney, you’d guys be arguing abuse of power and discrimination, if not violation of laws.

      DeSantis is a politician 1st and has grown into his narcissism just like Rubio did until he was knocked down to size.

      Again, I accept this nature of politicians but stop pretending DeSantis is this all-embracing leader. He is a Trump mini-me and time will demonstrate that, especially if he has to go national where he lacks the comfort zone of a sycophantic state gubbermint and court system.

      Politics is a dirty business on both sides and I’ve never known of a high profile leader that was not self-centered and narcissistic to some degree. Politics generally attracts the same kinds of people as Hollywood.

    271. EML says:

      The leftist media is starting to turn on Biden. They will invariably cast the economy as singularly the result of a senile old man being in the white house. This will allow them to both jettison the toxic Biden in 2024 and use Trump’s as yet another avenue of attack. See what happened the last time we elected a 78 year old?

    272. EML says:

      *Trump’s age

    273. Robbie says:

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      July 18, 2022 at 1:50 pm
      I would prefer DeSantis as the Republican candidate in 2024. But the election is going to focus on the economy, and Trump can point out how strong the economy was during his first term, and that he can bring the economy back by following the same economy policies. In this situation experience matters. Trump is also not afraid to take on the woke mob, although DeSantis has a good record in this regard to.

      – The “Trump will act presidential this time argument”.

      I guess this is a derivative of the “Trump will pivot to presidential” that we heard so often during the 2016 campaign and after every other moment when he acted idiotically.

      I’m not sure why anyone would believe Trump is suddenly going to act differently than he’s acted since he came down the escalator. He doesn’t care about policy at all. His campaign, his presidency, and his post presidency have been about his personal grievances and nothing more.

    274. Tgca says:

      266

      No! We don’t all agree. I want to see how DeSantis is able to handle issues on a national level and attract those Trump brought into the party before I agree because if he can’t win any of the keys states Trump won, then he will lose the GE to any Dem since they normally carry those states.

      DeSantis is operating in a very sycophantic environment where he pretty much gets what he wants and uses the bully pulpit to his advantage to get desired headlines in certain circles.

      That is not how it operates on the national level though.

      Remember how Rick Perry was the heir apparent and long awaited to throw his hat into ring because he was a very successful and strong TX Gubbernor that people expected to walk away with the nomination? Oops! That did not work out so well.

      Remember, Scott Walker, basically a hero to the right that was expected to be the heir apparent because of his tough as nails personality that had great success in a Dem state but then crashed and burned on the national level?

      DeSantis needs to show he can handle it nationally before being anointed the next coming of Jesus.

      I still think as of now, Trump is the best choice to winning in 2024 because he proved he could win before and would have won in 2020 if not for election fraud, irregularities, and constitutional violations by Dems and courts that decided an election by roughly 100,000 votes out of 15 million, or roughly 1/2 percent.

    275. Robbie says:

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      July 18, 2022 at 2:58 pm
      266. “looks like we’re all agreed, then. The best case scenario for 2024 is if Trump stands aside and backs DeSantis as the nominee.”

      At this point I don’t agree. I like that Trump remains politically active as it seems to terrify the Democrats.

      – You know who else likes that Trump remains politically active? Democrats. Why? Because Trump has saddled the party with a slew of crappy Senate candidates reminiscent of the worst of the clowns the Tea Party stuck us with in 2010. In the Senate, MAGA daddy may be just what Democrats need to keep the Senate.

      And by remaining politically active and possibly announcing the resumption of his vendetta tour (aka presidential campaign), he’ll give Democrats (who are down and out right now) something around which they can rally. What better way for Trump to show his reverse Midas Touch for Republicans than give Democrats an issue that mobilizes their dispirited base when nothing else has.

      In 2024, MAGA daddy will be 78 years old. That will be the same age as Biden was in 2020 when Trump tried to make Biden’s age a major issue. He’ll still also be a twice impeached president who organized a riot in an effort to keep himself in office.

      Finally, maybe Democrats are terrified of him for good reason? He did try and subvert the results of an election he lost.

    276. Tgca says:

      Comparing Trump’s acuity to Biden is absurd. There are a number of septuagenarians or octogenarians with stamina and mental sharpness. Think Dr. Fow-chee or Alan Dershowitz as two examples, whether you agree with them or not.

      Trump exhibits incredible stamina for his age and is quick witted to boot, not a sign of a feeble candidate.

      If we are concerned about Trump’s age and health when he’s not exhibited any symptoms, should we not be concerned about DeSantis’s wife health and whether he can fulfill campaigning because if he’s the nominee and she falls ill, then the GOP will pretty much lose its shot in the GE? Or what about the office of the presidency? Can you expect POTUS to focus and keep up a schedule with taking on the raising of young children if his wife has a recurrence?

      See how silly this looks when there is no real evidence to support such claims?

    277. EML says:

      Latino right turn will realign american politics

      https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/commentary-latino-right-turn-will-realign-american-politics-2608773/

      Govs. Ron DeSantis of Florida and Greg Abbott of Texas have done as much as anyone in America in recent years to expand the opportunities and improve the lives of Latinos in their states. As chief executives of large states, with large and growing Latino populations, they have pursued pro-growth agendas that put freedom first.

      They both resisted COVID extremism and unscientific school closures. They signed legislation giving their states tax relief, safer streets, school choice and regulatory reforms to spur entrepreneurism and job creation.

      There is a reason California and New York’s populations are shrinking while Texas and Florida are growing. DeSantis and Abbott are protecting the American Dream from the progressive policies that are driving people — Latinos included — down and out.

    278. Tgca says:

      283

      Finally! My good friend EML, the Liz Cheney Republican sees that not all Latinos are alike though through his eyes we may al, look alike.

      We don’t all eat tacos for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, as well get up in the middle of night craving tacos.

      Having lived in Caleefawnyuh, I’ve said for years, Latinos there can be very different than Latinos in TX or Floreedah.

      Same with Latinos in NY/NJ compared to FL where the classic example historically has been the sharp cultural differences between many Puerto Ricans, my heritage in addition being a white AA, to Cubans, lil Marco’s heritage – even though I doubt most Cubans go to foam parties but I digress.

      Baby steps but I’m proud of my good friend EML.

      *hug*

    279. Tgca says:

      Ok. Speaking about tacos, time for a taco run. Catch y’all later.

      Tacos for Trump 2024!!!

    280. EML says:

      Finally! My good friend EML, the Liz Cheney Republican sees that not all Latinos are alike though through his eyes we may al, look alike.

      We don’t all eat tacos for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, as well get up in the middle of night craving tacos.

      Having lived in Caleefawnyuh, I’ve said for years, Latinos there can be very different than Latinos in TX or Floreedah.
      ============================
      The King of Strawmen is back. This time it is 3 for 1. You are obsessed with lying. Were you always this way, or has it been a recent development?

    281. Tina says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
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      CNN POLL: Biden Job Approval sinks to 38%

      Biden Job Approval
      Approve 38% (-3)
      Disapprove 62% (+3)

      Country Direction
      Right Direction 21% (-11)
      Wrong Track 79% (+11)

      Economic Conditions
      Good 18% (-5)
      Poor 82% (+15)

      (+- vs April)

    282. Tina says:

      Phuq you, euro trash.

      Forbes
      @Forbes
      · 3h
      #BREAKING: At the United Nations, Prince Harry calls out “the rolling back of Constitutional rights in the United States” as part of “a global assault on democracy and freedom.”

    283. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I get almost daily fundraising E-mails from Trump, and have also been getting quite a few from DeSantis. But getting one from Liz Cheney is over-the-top:

      “But I also know that at this moment, we are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before. And that is a former president who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our Constitutional Republic. And he is aided by Republican leaders and elected officials who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous and irrational man.

      Now, some in my party are embracing former President Trump. And even after all we’ve seen, they’re enabling his lies. Many others are urging that we not confront Donald Trump, that we look away. And that is certainly the easier path.”

    284. Phil says:

      I was reading a newspaper article from the Casper Wyoming paper on the Wyoming primary. It contained numerous quotes from Democrats who said they will cross over and vote for Liz because of her “courage” and it was another way to stick it to Trump. LOL.

      After all that they finally got around to the latest poll and reluctantly acknowledged that the Mason Dixon Poll had her at 30% vs her Trump endorsed opponent and that number reflected the the crossover vote. In other words all those Democratic crossovers were the reason she cracked the 30 mark. I guess she’d be at 20 without them. The author of that article was very sad. Maybe Liz and Congressman Rice can get a room together.

    285. Phil says:

      That CNN poll is beyond brutal. Sheesh

    286. Tgca says:

      286

      Lying? What lies? Please ‘splain.

      Don’t be so sensitive! We can disagree without taking it personally you Latino stereotyping bigot.

      Maybe we can sit down sometime for a taco or two and discuss our differences without judgment.

      Later dude.

      *hug*

    287. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #291- Phil
      Who would have thought that Biden’s approval rating is highest in the Rasmussen(less) Poll at 42%!?

    288. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      288. Unfortunately, Prince Harry is now California trash. Like we needed anymore. His last attempt to return to Britain during the Queen’s Jubilee was a fiasco. He got booed leaving Westminster Abbey. He was seated away from the Royal Family during the service, for among other reasons apparently he was detected wearing a wire. He then flew back to California the next day in disgrace.

      Prince William and his young family were the stars of the event, and social media was swooning over the royal Chatto boys, who are descendents of Princess Margaret.

      Harry has degenerating into California woke irrelevance.

    289. Tina says:

      I like Rasmussen now.

      -Jebot

    290. Tina says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
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      CNN Poll: Just 18% of Americans say that the economic conditions are good. Four years ago, under President Trump, that number was 69%

      Economic Conditions: Good/Bad
      President Biden: 18/82 (net: -64)
      President Trump: 69/28 (net: +41)

      ? Net Difference: Trump +105%

    291. Phil says:

      Rasmussen the new gold standard.

    292. EML says:

      Meanwhile, jason has spent the last 5 hours searching for a poll that shows Trump doing better than DeSantis with blue collar voters in OH, WI, MI, and PA. Spoiler alert: such a poll doesn’t exist. You can come back now.

    293. Robbie says:

      Rasmussen sucks and always has. Almost all robo-polling does. Quite a few states don’t even permit robo-polling and Rasmussen has been loath to adequately address that issue.

      Rasmussen will come back into vogue in this forum, though, once it begins pumping out pro-Trump polling later this year and next year. I still chuckle at their final poll of the Trump presidency showing him with a 51% approval rating. It was obvious BS when compared with the other polling at the time.

    294. Phil says:

      ……as opposed to those MSM golden oldies put out by Quinnipiac, ABC/Washington Post, NBC, CBS/youGov, Reuters. Boy did they hit the mark in 2016, 2018, 2020. President Hillary, Governor Gillum, Senator Nelson, and Claire McKaskill all swear by them. My favorite has to be the ABC Wisconsin poll that had Biden up 17 a week before the election.

    295. Tina says:

      Crude actually closed up $5, after Biden’s disastrous trip to Saudi Arabia.

      He is out of commission, maybe tomorrow he will be seen.

      Nurse White Trash has done the injections.

    296. Tina says:

      Even worse that 2020 and blm riots/ China virus lab leak?

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
      40m
      CNN POLL: Just 21% of Americans say “things are going well.”

      “You have to go back to 2009 to find a time when the American electorate was this dissatisfied with the way things are going”

    297. Tgca says:

      298

      Oh stop it! Jadon made it clear this AM he would not be around during the day. He’s prepping all his tacos for the week. That takes time.

    298. Tgca says:

      288. Tina

      I saw that earlier. This dude comes to the US to make money and does a national televised show to trash his family and his 95 year old granny with his skanky wife whining by his side and then he has the gall to criticize his host country as backwards when freedoms and democracy are much more limited in his homeland.

      F*ck you scumbag Harry! You don’t like it here in the US, LEAVE!!!

    299. jason says:

      looks like we’re all agreed, then. The best case scenario for 2024 is if Trump stands aside and backs DeSantis as the nominee.””

      Stands aside no.

      I want him very active in politics.

      But the future of the R party should be DeSantis, not him.

    300. jason says:

      At this point I don’t agree. I like that Trump remains politically active as it seems to terrify the Democrats.”

      Right, I agree.

    301. jason says:

      He did try and subvert the results of an election he lost.”

      LOL

      Straight from Liz Cheney’s mouth.

    302. jason says:

      It also terrifies the Never Trumper and TDS morons.

      Win-win.

    303. jason says:

      Now, some in my party are embracing former President Trump. ”

      Heh, “some” my ass.

    304. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      July 18, 2022 at 6:26 pm
      ……as opposed to those MSM golden oldies put out by Quinnipiac, ABC/Washington Post, NBC, CBS/youGov, Reuters. Boy did they hit the mark in 2016, 2018, 2020.

      – Of course, I’ve never those polls put out by these groups were any good. However, the NBC/WSJ was long viewed as the best public out there. It no longer exists, though.

      But if you want to tout Rasmussen, that’s your choice.

    305. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 18, 2022 at 7:02 pm
      He did try and subvert the results of an election he lost.”

      LOL

      – He tried to overturn the results of the election he lost at the pro-forma vote counting ceremony on January 6.

      He set up a scheme to provide a slate of fake electors, he attempted to install and acting AG who would confiscate voting machines and call for a new vote, and he incited a mob.

      The fact you refuse to acknowledge what happened on live TV is a mental defect on your part.

    306. jason says:

      He tried to overturn the results of the election he lost at the pro-forma vote counting ceremony on January 6.”

      Zzzzzz….

      How exactly did he do that?

      By telling a crowd of 100k peaceful attendees to march to the capitol and make their voices heard “PEACEFULLY”?

      You really are a brain dead Liz Cheney sycophant moron.

      You believe anything you see on MSNBC.

      Maybe you believe it was an “insurrection” by 700 unarmed people too?

    307. jason says:

      he set up a scheme to provide a slate of fake electors, he attempted to install and acting AG who would confiscate voting machines and call for a new vote, and he incited a mob.”

      All lies.

      Trump didn’t set up any “scheme”, some states had alternate slates of electors but it wasn’t anything mandated by the Federal govt.

      “Confiscate” some voting machines in order to prove fraud. Too bad it was not actually done. a mob”. Trump did nothing of the sort. He was careful to tell the rally to go peacefully.

      In fact the rioters that invaded the capitol were not even at the rally.

    308. jason says:

      Q: “Aren’t [gas prices] still $2/gallon higher than when you guys took office though?”

      KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: “First of all, we have to look at the imp—how we got there, right?”

      Huh, yeah…..

    309. Phil says:

      I’m not touting Rasmussen. Simply pointing out that compared to the other polling trash out there it’s better. That’s just a fact. Not a very high bar to be sure but I just wonder why you single Rasmussen out when the others have a worse track record. Not a peep out of you ever about any of them. The answer is you happen to like their results better, bad as they are.

      Florida is an excellent example. Trump carried it by 3 1/2 points…..yet final polls by Quinnipiac, Reuters, NYT, Emerson, Monmouth, and NBC had Biden up 5, 4, 4, 6, 6, and 4. Now you tell me. Exactly how do all these pollsters miss like that? That’s ridiculous. They that incompetent? Doubtful. Simply MSM leftist bias. They aren’t even interested in getting it right. They have an agenda and it trumps accuracy. Inexcusable for a reputable pollster. Oh yeah, the ‘’Trump lackey” Baris nails Florida on the number. But he’s bought and paid for by Trump. Riiiiight

      Ohio. Trump carries it by a little over 8. Quinnipiac? Biden +4. Emerson Biden +1, NYT Biden +1. CBS tied. They all miss Ohio by double digits? Sure! I could play this game with every state…..but yeah. Let’s trash Rasmussen.

    310. jason says:

      and he incited a mob.”

      95% of R members of the House thought that was a crock of crap.

      But Amoral Scumbag, 10 scumbag media whores, and Adam Schiff believe it.

    311. Bitterlaw says:

      I suspect that the 2024 GOP nomination will effectively be decided before the PA primary. If it is still a race, I will vote for the candidate I think has the best chance to beat the Democratic nominee. In the GE, I will vote for whomever wins the GOP nomination. If it is Trump, fine. If it is DeSantis, fine.

      Please resume your fighting.

    312. jason says:

      Let’s trash Rasmussen”

      Amoral Scumbag was always the king of cherry picking polls here.

      The only “good” polls are left wing MSM and left wing university polls.

      Everything else, i.e, not bought for an paid to promote a left wing agenda, is “trash”.

    313. Tina says:

      How many Rs voted for this ?

      RNC Research
      @RNCResearch
      · 6h
      Biden Assistant Secretary for Health Rachel Levine: We need to “empower” kids to go on puberty blockers and get sex reassignment surgery.

    314. jason says:

      I suspect that the 2024 GOP nomination will effectively be decided before the PA primary. If it is still a race, I will vote for the candidate I think has the best chance to beat the Democratic nominee. In the GE, I will vote for whomever wins the GOP nomination. If it is Trump, fine. If it is DeSantis, fine.

      Please resume your fighting.”

      Sure, tks.

      Bitter has a good point, as it applies to me too.

      If its still a race, I will not be voting in the R primary.

      In the GE, I will support, but will be unlikely to vote for, the GOP candidate. If it is Trump, fine. If it is DeSantis, fine. If it is “you have to feel my pain Nikki Haley”, hmmm, well, I won’t vote for her either.

    315. Tina says:

      The partisan and corrupt department of unjustiice drops charges against the Colbert 9.

    316. Wobbles says:

      We need to “empower” kids to go on puberty blockers and get sex reassignment surgery.”

      I voted for this agenda, goddammit, so what the heck, yeah, go for it.

    317. Wes says:

      Don’t get excited, Tina. Your fantasy of being able to say Mitch McConnell voted for Levine won’t come true. McConnell voted against it(?). However, Collins and Murkowski voted for it(?). Surprisingly Romney also voted may.

    318. Wes says:

      Nay*

    319. Tina says:

      I only asked how many voted for it.

      Thanks.

    320. Wes says:

      We know how you operate, Tina. You hate McConnell so much even if you have to make something up to criticize him for, you’ll do it. You were definitely hoping McConnell had indeed voted for it(?).

      Not sorry to disappoint.

    321. Tina says:

      We know how you operate too.

    322. Tina says:

      John Cardillo
      @johncardillo
      ·
      2h
      We are at a point in history where not tripping on stairs while boarding AF1 or falling over while stopping a bicycle are considered incredibly successful days for the President of the United States.

    323. jason says:

      I hope McConnell becomes Majority Leader again.

    324. ssq says:

      Tina says:
      July 18, 2022 at 8:11 pm

      We know how you operate too.”

      wes is a surgeon?

      Who knew?

    325. Tina says:

      But wut about the J6ers waved in by cops? I am sure if these were “Republican tv staffers”, it would be a different story.

      Mary Margaret Olohan
      @MaryMargOlohan
      · 2h
      U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia “cannot move forward with misdemeanor charges of unlawful entry against” members of Stephen Colbert’s staff and crew arrested June 16, saying they were “never asked to leave by the staffers who invited them.”

    326. Tina says:

      This should not be a legit trial and he should have accepted a bench trial, not the 96% of Dc trash jurors.

      Granted, the judges are leftist loons too.

      Quote Tweet

      Tom Fitton
      @TomFitton
      · 7h
      I stand with Steve Bannon, who is being victimized by Pelosi Congress and Biden Justice Dept — and the court system…

    327. Bitterlaw says:

      If you support somebody but won’t vote for them, does it make a sound?

    328. Tina says:

      Yes, a “trial” that would the Ccp proud. Where is judge Mehta?

      Jack Posobic ??
      @JackPosobiec
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      The last juror seated today in the Bannon trial is himself an attorney for the federal govt

      Tomorrow each side still gets 3 strikes

    329. Tina says:

      Cesspool.

      Potential Dc juror: “ I cannot believe anything Bannon says because who he “affiliates” with,

    330. Bitterlaw says:

      In some counties in PA, attorneys are automatically excused from jury duty. In others, they can be called to serve. When I lived in Philadelphia, I was called to serve 2 or 3 times. I was close to be seated as a juror in a civil trial until one of the attorneys asked me if I would follow the Judge’s instructions on the law. I said, “Not necessarily.” When they asked why not, I said that I had written many proposed jury instructions and sometimes the judge was wrong.

    331. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 18, 2022 at 8:20 pm

      If you support somebody but won’t vote for them, does it make a sound?”

      Not sure.

      I remember when Jul voted for Kathleen Kane but didn’t support her though.

    332. jason says:

      Potential Dc juror: “ I cannot believe anything Bannon says because who he “affiliates” with,”

      Nobody is asking any juror to believe anything Bannon says.

      He is on trial for defying an illegal subpoena by a kangaroo committee.

    333. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11025507/Boris-Johnson-claims-Labour-deep-state-seek-reverse-Brexit-hes-gone.html

      Damn. I used to like Boris Johnson. But if he believes in “deep state,”. I may have to rethink it.

    334. jason says:

      I have never been called for jury duty in PA. Living among the Amish has its advantages.

      In TX I was on several juries. Nobody on trial when I was a jury was innocent. However none were convicted because usually only 2 or 3 people voted for conviction and the rest fell sorry for the defendants. So after a few tries to convince them otherwise I just voted with the majority to acquit, these were traffic cases and I couldn’t see wasting more money on hung juries, in the unlikely event they would be retried.

    335. jason says:

      Damn. I used to like Boris Johnson. But if he believes in “deep state,”. I may have to rethink it.:

      Me too.

    336. jason says:

      when I was a jury”

      Huh, no, I was never the “jury”. Make it juror.

    337. jason says:

      Btw, is Kane out of jail yet?

      “Kane was charged with drunken driving and careless driving. Four days later, a Montgomery County judge issued a bench warrant for her arrest on the alleged probation violation. Kane is on probation until October 2025.

      Kane, 55, has been jailed at Montgomery County Correctional Facility outside Philadelphia since April 29.”

    338. Bitterlaw says:

      What kind of traffic cases? DUI? Speeding?

    339. jason says:

      Its been a long time. Leaving the scene of an accident was one. Speeding like over 30 miles the speed limit was another. No DUI.

      I see Kane was released from jail and sent to a treatment facility on May 23, so it looks like she was in jail for almost a month.

    340. Tina says:

      Sloppy Head Boris loved the locks downs and vax mandates

      A Real con like the gop e.

    341. Bitterlaw says:

      345. Not sure why anybody would feel sorry for speeders and those who leave the scene of an accident.

    342. Tgca says:

      OMG! Late dinner. I’m so stuffed.

      I had like 9 tacos. I don’t know what came over me.

      Once I start eating them, I just can’t stop. It’s like I’m drawn to them.

      I see a taco and I just go into this daze and lose a sense of conscious control. It’s like they’re calling to me.

      Eat me TGCA! Eat me!

    343. Tgca says:

      Ah! So the truth finally comes out. Jadon acquits GWB of drunk driving.

      Imagine if Jadon had fought and used his powers of persuasion *giggles* to get a conviction.

      Then we would never had the 2nd Iraq War, ISIL, and Saddam Hussein would still be beloved by his people winning elections with 96% of the vote.

      See! A butterfly flapping it’s wings half way around the world can really have impact.

    344. jason says:

      Hilarious that AP Axios, Newsweek, Reuters and BBC are considered centrist and Fox News is considered far right.

      The first five are left and Fox is right, not far right. I would put Reuters as far left actually.

      The Deseret News is at best center, not right. The rest seems ok.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e6c45d88579dea4c3763ec47aed5492b2294f3e388824a75dc6d0093abcb3bcf.jpg

    345. jason says:

      345. Not sure why anybody would feel sorry for speeders and those who leave the scene of an accident”

      I didn’t but the defense alleged since they were minorities they were victims of society and deserved a break blah blah blah.

      Most of my fellow jurors agreed.

    346. jason says:

      I had like 9 tacos”

      You can eat a lot of them if they are stuffed with dried tree bark foam.

    347. GF says:

      “I had like 9 tacos”

      You slut! I know that’s code for Hispanics!?

      ?

    348. Tina says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      · 42m
      NEW: @Civiqs | 07/17

      Biden Job Approval
      Approve 30%
      Disapprove 58%

      Independents
      Approve 19%
      Disapprove 67%

      Hispanics
      Approve 38%
      Disapprove 47%

      Georgia: 25/62
      Arizona: 26/63
      Nevada: 30/60
      Pennsylvania: 31/57
      Michigan: 32/57
      Wisconsin: 33/57

      https://civiqs.com/results/approve_president_biden?uncertainty=true&annotations=true&zoomIn=true

    349. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Frankly I believe an armed citizen is more likely to risk his/her life to stop an armed shooter than the police.

      “The good Samaritan hailed as a hero for taking out a mass shooter at an Indiana shopping mall was allowed to carry a firearm in public under the state’s newly enacted constitutional carry law. Police said Monday that Elisjsha Dicken, 22, of Seymour, Indiana, fatally shot the suspect less than two minutes after gunfire erupted Sunday at the Greenwood Park Mall in Greenwood, taking the lives of three shoppers and wounding two others.”

    350. GF says:

      Hispanics
      Approve 38%
      Disapprove 47%

      Arizona: 26/63
      Nevada: 30/60

      CCM and Kelly are sh*ting bricks with those numbers. Border Hispanics are shifting right faster than those in the NE, Chicago, or CA (although NJ some saw big Hispanic shifts in Hudson and Essex last year). It’s part of why Ronchetti is polling very well in NM-Gov, and I think will pull off the upset.

    351. jason says:

      “Frankly I believe an armed citizen is more likely to risk his/her life to stop an armed shooter than the police.”

      I think this is true.

      I sometimes wonder what I would do in such a situation. I don’t normally have a concealed weapon in public places but if I did happen to have it on me and some guy comes into a supermarket shooting I would like to think I would try to take him out. Now if I managed to escape that situation without a weapon would I go to my car to get one and come back into the market to shoot it out? I think probably not, most of the damage would probably already be done by then and I might just be volunteering to be the last person killed.

    352. jason says:

      Yeah, if we have a “sleeper” thread in November I will definitely put in Ronchetti.

      Another one for me would be Morse in NH senate, assuming he beats deadender Bolduc in the primary.

    353. jason says:

      I would say CCM is toast except for the election law in NV that allows ballot harvesting. NV only has 11% of the population over 65, half of what FL has, which helps with nursing home fraud.

      Still, it has got to be worth 40 or 50k votes to CCM so Laxalt will have to overcome that.

    354. Bitterlaw says:

      I don’t know how the police who did nothing inside the school live with themselves knowing they could have stopped the slaughter and did not. Maybe they are just relieved they came home that day. I expect there may be suicides over it at some point.

    355. Tina says:

      Robert C. Cahaly
      @RobertCahaly
      · 59m
      BREAKING @trafalgar_group nationwide #poll shows #Trump leading #Biden in a potential 2024 rematch:

      47.9% Trump
      42.6% Biden
      9.6% Undecided

      Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/nat-survey-2024-matchup-0715/

    356. jason says:

      Damm, EML hardest hit.

      He has been repeating the ONE poll that showed Biden ahead by 3 like it was the Ten Commandments.

    357. jason says:

      So NPR is going to have a “disinformation team”.

      I loved this comment:

      “That’s kinda like Jack the Ripper launching a new line of steak knives”

    358. EML says:

      jason says:
      July 19, 2022 at 12:02 am
      Damm, EML hardest hit.

      He has been repeating the ONE poll that showed Biden ahead by 3 like it was the Ten Commandments.
      ========================================
      You are an absolute moron. Why is it that you and tgca have to continually lie and misstate others’ positions? I hate liars.

    359. EML says:

      EML says:
      July 18, 2022 at 1:31 pm

      I think the economy is so bad, that Trump beats Biden in 2024. But I don’t think Biden runs and I am less sure of Trump beating other Democrats.
      ==================================
      Doesn’t look like I’m that hard hit, does it, Liar?

    360. EML says:

      He has been repeating the ONE poll that showed Biden ahead by 3 like it was the Ten Commandments.
      ==================================
      1) The only reason I’ve been mentioning polls showing Trump losing to Biden is that your habitually lying friend claimed that ALL the polls show that Americans prefer Trump to Biden. This is an easily disproven lie.

      2) There are actually 2 polls within the past month showing Trump losing by 3 to Biden, one from YouGov and one from NYT. So that’s another lie that there’s only ONE poll showing Trump losing by 3.

      Why is it that you two Trump cultists constantly lie? Is it part of being in the cult? Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. That’s all you do.

    361. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @trafalgar_group
      @COSProject#poll

      62.2% of #Americans have low confidence in officials preventing a mass shooting. More confidence in fellow armed citizens for protection.

      41.8% Armed citizens
      25.1% Local police
      10.3% Fed agents
      22.8% None

    362. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      361. “BREAKING @trafalgar_group nationwide #poll shows #Trump leading #Biden in a potential 2024 rematch:

      47.9% Trump
      42.6% Biden
      9.6% Undecided”

      Trafalgar polls have a good reputation for accuracy, so do accept that Trump has a lead over Biden — given the disaster that the Biden presidency has become, this is no surprise.

      I would like to see a Trafalgar poll of DeSantis versus Biden, my hunch is DeSantis would have a similar lead.

    363. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Article from May 2022. It is important to point out Trump and DeSantis respect each other:

      A new poll found that most Republicans would support Florida Governor Ron DeSantis in the 2024 primary for president—if Donald Trump doesn’t run for the nomination.

      A survey released Wednesday from the Trafalgar Group found 35 percent of likely Republican primary voters were most likely to back DeSantis to be the party’s nominee, the most of any potential candidate polled.

      DeSantis has been praised by conservatives for his approach to the COVID-19 pandemic. The governor lifted coronavirus restrictions in Florida before many other states and has become a leading opponent to vaccine passports.

      His approval rating among statewide voters is at 55 percent, according to a survey released Wednesday by the Florida Chamber of Commerce. DeSantis’ approval rating among the Sunshine State’s conservative bloc was even higher at 88 percent.

      In the hypothetical 2024 primary poll, Texas Senator Ted Cruz ranked second with the support of 15.3 percent of likely GOP primary voters. Utah Senator Mitt Romney garnered 10.3 percent support, trailed closely by former Vice President Mike Pence who received 10 percent support.

      Former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley, South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, Missouri Representative Josh Hawley and Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse all polled below 10 percent.

      Trump, who left office in January, had the highest level of support from likely Republican primary voters. If the former president decided to run for the White House again, 49.1 percent of likely voters said they’d back him for the GOP nomination.

      Another 12.4 percent of likely voters said they would “likely” vote for Trump, while nearly a quarter of respondents said they were unlikely to back him. Just 4 percent of respondents said they were unsure how they’d vote.

      Trump revealed last week that he is “100 percent” thinking about running for president again in 2024 and would “certainly” consider DeSantis to be his running mate.

      “He’s a friend of mine. I endorsed Ron and after I endorsed him he took off like a rocket ship,” Trump told Fox News host Maria Bartiromo. “He’s done a great job as governor.”

      Trump added that “a lot of people” would love a Trump-DeSantis ticket.

      But if Trump decided not to run, most of his supporters said they’d turn to backing DeSantis. The Florida governor garnered 47.6 percent of the likely Republican primary voters who first expressed support for Trump.”

    364. jason says:

      The Florida governor garnered 47.6 percent of the likely Republican primary voters who first expressed support for Trump.”

      So even without Trump less than half of Rs support DeSantis. I bet Trump would get 80% if DeSantis stated he was not running.

      As I stated before, DeSantis has some work to do if he wants to be another Donald Trump.

      Of course EML the TDS moron will somehow try to twist this to state that DeSantis is much more popular than Trump.

    365. jason says:

      He has been repeating the ONE poll that showed Biden ahead by 3 like it was the Ten Commandments.
      ==================================
      1) The only reason I’ve been mentioning polls showing Trump losing to Biden is that your habitually lying friend claimed that ALL the polls show that Americans prefer Trump to Biden. This is an easily disproven lie.

      2) There are actually 2 polls within the past month showing Trump losing by 3 to Biden, one from YouGov and one from NYT. So that’s another lie that there’s only ONE poll showing Trump losing by 3.”

      Heh, how is that for intellectual dishonesty.

      What I said is completely correct, that EML has been here touting ONE poll showing Trump losing to Biden like it was the Ten Commandments.

      Now he dishonestly comes up with the “well there were actually two polls” but the fact is the one he has been mentioning here over and over is the one I referenced, Biden up by 3.

      I hate liars.

    366. jason says:

      TDS is really a sad disease.

      Amoral Scumbag and EML should get a room, where they can repeat lies about Trump to each other long into the night.

    367. EML says:

      Heh, how is that for intellectual dishonesty.

      What I said is completely correct, that EML has been here touting ONE poll showing Trump losing to Biden like it was the Ten Commandments.

      Now he dishonestly comes up with the “well there were actually two polls” but the fact is the one he has been mentioning here over and over is the one I referenced, Biden up by 3.
      ================================
      Actually, you will see that I referenced multiple polls where Trump was losing (including one where Trump was losing to Newsom and DeSantis was doing better than Trump). So no, I have not been touting just ONE poll. You are a liar.

      Again, the only reason I was referencing the polls anyway was because tgca LIED and said that ALL the polls show Americans prefer. Which is as blatant of a lie as you can get.

    368. Gordon Allen says:

      FWIW recent poll of Michigan GOP potential primary voters was 45-41 Trump over DeSantis.

    369. EML says:

      Still waiting for you to find a poll showing that Trump does better than DeSantis with blue collar voters in OH, PA, WI, and MI.

    370. DW says:

      Cattle ranchers in the USA cannot afford to feed their cattle due to Biden’s inflation, and so they are selling their herds to get what they can. The price of beef is going to drop a little in the short term, but then once that is gone, and there is a whole generation of new cows that were never born, the price will literally go through the roof. No one will be able to afford beef. Which is exactly the Dems plan.

      Just one chapter in the book of the systematic destruction of our country right before our eyes.

    371. jason says:

      Why is it that you two Trump cultists constantly lie”

      Trump cultist.

      Translation: does not have TDS and does not repeat Dem talking points about Trump ad nauseam.

      Bitter, could I get some points, “Trump cultist” is great.

      Few people here have been as critical of Trump as I have. I have been attacked many times here for criticizing Trump.

      I think his trade policy based on the AFL-CIO agenda of stupid tariffs and trade wars is asinine. I think his rhetoric against NATO weakened the alliance and his threat to quit NATO over who pays what was self defeating and ignorant. I opposed building a physical wall on the Mexican border which I correctly predicted would never be finished, when a virtual wall was much more appropriate for most of the distance. I had many battles here pointing out Trump is no fiscal conservative and mocking those that said he “only signed spending bills, he didn’t write them”. I was highly critical of his attacks on John McCain and other Rs that came back to bite him. I very recently said his attacks on Elon Musk were stupid.

      So I am hardly a Trump cultist. But I don’t have TDS. I give him credit where he is due and I think overall he delivered for conservatives in many areas.

      EML can take his “cultist” BS and GFH.

    372. Phil says:

      Emerson is another poll (not exactly a friendly poll to the right) that has Trump up 5 over Biden.

      ….but, Biden isn’t running. Anyone who still thinks that is delusional. There is more of a chance Biden doesn’t finish his term.

    373. jason says:

      Still waiting for you to find a poll showing that Trump does better than DeSantis with blue collar voters in OH, PA, WI, and MI.”

      Zzzzzz… more blatant intellectual dishonesty.

      EML has already admitted Trump brought in blue collar voters in these states. We know he certainly did better with this group than other Rs.

      So saying “where is the poll showing Trump does better” is unmitigated horse crap.

      We KNOW Trump does well with blue collar voters in these states.

      I want to see a poll that shows DeSantis can match him in these states with this group.

      It is a fair question that EML wants to distract from with his usual TDS inanities.

    374. EML says:

      So the answer is no, you haven’t found a poll showing that Trump does better than DeSantis with blue collar voters in OH, PA, WI, and MI.

    375. EML says:

      We know he certainly did better with this group than other Rs.
      ===============================
      Trump did worse with blue collar voters compared to other candidates such as John Cornyn, Glenn Youngkin, and Jack Ciattarelli. Non-Trumpian Ciattarelli did WAY WAY WAY better with blue collar voters than Trump.

    376. SoHope says:

      I saw 50 polls in 2020 that show Trump didn’t do hot enough against Biden to win the presidency. Is that good enough?

    377. Phil says:

      380

      Can’t find a poll because there isn’t one. Call me when we see some head to heads Trump and DeSantis vs a Democrat. That will settle it. All we have are national polls which show Trump handily beating Biden in the popular vote. Any Republican lead in the popular vote translates into an electoral landslide.

    378. jason says:

      The difference between me and Tgca and EML the TDS moron is that we don’t feel compelled to tear down DeSantis to make our point.

      I have never said anything negative about DeSantis. I think he is a gifted politician. I think he surrounded himself with competent people like Christina Pushaw. I think he did a great job keeping the FL economy going during the pandemic. I think he is good, like Trump, in standing his ground and not letting the MSM dictate the narrative. He is stellar when it comes to combating wokeism. I have said many times HE is the future of the R party, not Trump.

      The TDS morons feel compelled to tear down Trump in order to promote DeSantis, which is really stupid. If you are triggered by the statement that in order to win a GE DeSantis will need Trump’s base to turnout for him, you are a certified dumbass.

    379. jason says:

      I saw 50 polls in 2020 that show Trump didn’t do hot enough against Biden to win the presidency. Is that good enough?”

      And yet he came within 42k (fraudulent) votes of winning anyway.

    380. jason says:

      Trump did worse with blue collar voters compared to other candidates such as John Cornyn, Glenn Youngkin, and Jack Ciattarelli.”

      Comparing the presidential elections of 2008, 2012, 2016 and 2020 with state races with completely different dynamics is more intellectual dishonesty.

      Keep digging your hole, you might get to China.

    381. Robbie says:

      “When asked if they would support Trump or DeSantis if the presidential election were held the day they were contacted, 45% of voters said they would vote for Trump and about 42% said they would vote for DeSantis.”

      https://t.co/ZDMLKNPG0f

      – This is easily the weakest Trump’s been with the Republican Party since March 2016.

    382. EML says:

      Can’t find a poll because there isn’t one.
      ===============================
      Exactly my point, Phil. Jason is demanding that I produce a poll showing that DeSantis does better with blue collar voters in OH, MI, PA, and WI. No such thing exists. There is no state level 2024 presidential polling with demographic crosstabs.

      BUT….we have all these other data points that show that blue collar voters are abandoning the Democratic Party and voting Republican in even greater numbers than they were under Trump. Jason dismisses all of the other data and claims that the only acceptable proof is proof that doesn’t exist. Here’s a conversation between me and Jason:

      Jason: Prove that pigs can’t fly
      Me: Well, we’ve never seen a pig fly. Pigs don’t have wings and we know that animals that don’t have wings can’t fly.
      Jason: You haven’t proven anything. I won’t believe it unless you throw every pig off a cliff and show that they won’t fly to save themselves.
      Me: What evidence do you have that pigs CAN fly?
      Jason:

      I want Jason to answer the , but he can’t. What evidence is there that blue collar voters will abandon the Republican Party and vote Democrat in 2024? Because all the evidence we have points in the other direction. Jason doesn’t have any data to back up his claim, so he asks for nonexistent evidence. He’s a brainwashed cultist.

    383. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 19, 2022 at 8:30 am
      The Florida governor garnered 47.6 percent of the likely Republican primary voters who first expressed support for Trump.”

      So even without Trump less than half of Rs support DeSantis. I bet Trump would get 80% if DeSantis stated he was not running.

      – Trump has 100% name ID. DeSantis doesn’t. That matters in the national polls. The fact DeSantis is polling as well as he is without any sort of national effort is really, really good for his chances.

      Where people have seen DeSantis up close and personal is Florida and he’s putting distance between himself and MAGA daddy. Just a few weeks ago, I was assured by the MAGA forever crowd that DeSantis couldn’t even beat Trump in Florida. Now, several polls show him doing just that.

    384. SoHope says:

      Losing 3 or 4 states by 40k votes gets you how many of their electoral votes?

    385. Cash Cow TM says:

      MD primary today.

      I don’t know which D to vote for in various races.

      According to their TV ads they are all superb candidates.

    386. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 19, 2022 at 8:34 am
      TDS is really a sad disease.

      – Trump forever syndrome is a disease as well and you might be patient zero, or have at least had close contact with patient zero.

    387. EML says:

      Comparing the presidential elections of 2008, 2012, 2016 and 2020 with state races with completely different dynamics is more intellectual dishonesty.
      ==============================
      Cornyn was elected in the presidential election year of 2020. Your assertion is that Trump is uniquely qualified to attract blue collar and Hispanic voters and will win more of either group than any other Republican. If that’s true, then how come John Cornyn, who is as milquetoast as you can get, did better than Trump with both of these groups?

    388. Robbie says:

      EML, who doesn’t agree with me on much and is convinced I’m a Democrat, is finding out the hard way that Jason fraud believes anyone who doesn’t agree with him on Trump has TDS.

      In Jason fraud’s world, you’re either 100% for Trump or you have TDS.

    389. Tgca says:

      394

      In Jason fraud’s world, you’re either 100% for Trump or you have TDS.

      EXACTLY! What’s wrong with that?

      Now take a knee.

      All Hail Trump!

    390. Tina says:

      Looks like Nikki Haley is running.

      She is a No for me.

    391. SoHope says:

      Trump need to start a barbershop quartet with Al Gore and the corpses of Samuel J. Tilden and Thomas Dewey.

      They should sure would be swell.
      I can hear those sweet harmonies…
      “Shouldaaaa…wouldaaa…couldaaaa”

    392. Tina says:

      Are there any polls of Desantis winning over Biden, Kampala, or her Thighness?

      Every legit poll shows trump winning handily over all 3.

      Desantis would be fine though if he even runs.

      My non starters include Haley, Quittens, thr Maryland yabba the Hutt, Jebra, loon Cheney, the cryer, and Paolo Ryano.

      I am sure I missed a few more.

    393. Tina says:

      One year ago. His “experts.”

      The Hill
      @thehill
      · Jul 19, 2021
      President Biden on inflation concerns: “Our experts believe, and the data shows, that most of the price increases we’ve seen were expected and expected to be temporary.”

    394. EML says:

      Every legit poll shows trump winning handily over all 3.
      ================================
      This is a lie.

    395. Tina says:

      Yikes, I don’t know how Biden’s Beotch and Luntz tenant will be able to ignore this if they get control. New Ras poll:

      Most voters don’t believe Joe Biden’s denials of involvement in Hunter’s foreign business dealings. Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Likely U.S. voters believe it’s likely the president was aware of at least some of Hunter Biden’s major foreign business dealings, including 49% who think it is Very Likely. Just 22% don’t think it is likely President Biden was aware of his son’s foreign deals, and 10% are not sure.

      More importantly, sixty-two percent (62%) of voters believe Joe Biden personally profited from deals with Chinese-government connected companies, including 44% who think it’s Very Likely. Thirty-percent (30%) don’t believe it is likely that the president profited from his son’s Chinese deals.

      Also, not surprisingly with today’s corrupt justice department, most voters don’t think the president’s son will actually be prosecuted. Only 32% believe it’s likely that federal investigations will lead to criminal charges against Hunter Biden, including 16% who think it is Very Likely. Fifty-six percent (56%) don’t believe Hunter Biden is likely to face criminal charges, including 21% who say it’s Not At All Likely. Another 12% are not sure.

    396. Tina says:

      The 62% figure on Biden personally profiting is quite alarming.

      Of course, the corrupt Unjustive department won’t do anything,

      Bondo Barr did not help here, sitting on the laptop since 2018 or 2019.

    397. Tina says:

      The corrupt judge has stripped many of bannons defenses, which should be appealable. This includes whether e subpoena was valid since there are no Rs appointed to the committee.

      With the corrupt jury pool, he will be found guilty by this Friday,

      This does not make it right, however.

    398. Robbie says:

      Mediaite
      @Mediaite
      Herschel Walker Claims He Was FBI Agent and Tried to Kill a Man But Stopped Because of His Bumper Sticker

      https://t.co/6Sj7mitYbM

      – Herchel Walker could still win, but he’s a bad candidate.

    399. Bitterlaw says:

      The Woke War lasted 9 days. This is day 3 of the Trump v. DeSantis in 2024 War. Can it keep going and break the record?

    400. EML says:

      A Texas blogger paid by Democratic Rep. Vicente Gonzalez’s campaign is attacking Republican opponent Rep. Mayra Flores as “Miss Frijoles” and a “cotton-pickin’ liar,” prompting a wave of denunciations by fellow Democrats.

      The language first surfaced three days after Gonzalez’s campaign wrote a $1,200 check to The McHale Report blog June 24 for “advertising services,” according to the Democrat’s Federal Election Commission finance report.

      But the blog, which has called Flores “Miss Frijoles” 21 times since then, has not published any Gonzalez ads.

      https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/07/19/holy-frijolx-and-you-thought-breakfast-tacos-was-bad-n483714

    401. jason says:

      EML says:
      July 19, 2022 at 10:10 am

      Every legit poll shows trump winning handily over all 3.
      ================================
      This is a lie.”

      EML would know all about lying.

      And don’t you love triggering the TDS moron?

    402. DW says:

      New headline, as the Biden Administration is now on record in favor of the mutilation of children:

      “Assistant Health Secretary Rachel Levine Argues for Medical Gender Transition of Minors”

    403. jason says:

      – Herchel Walker could still win, but he’s a bad candidate.”

      If you want to keep repeating MSM talking points against him at least learn how to spell his name.

      Walker is a fine candidate, a black man with a compelling life story of great achievements.

      He is not a polished country club R, but he is certainly a lot better than a scumbag commie like Warnock. And he certainly represents GA a lot better than Warnock.

      If Amoral Scumbag really wants Rs to win, what exactly is the point of calling Walker a bad candidate?

      Herschel Walker deserves the support of anyone who calls himself a conservative or R.

      “Bad candidate” my ass.

    404. Tgca says:

      Ok. Let me dispense with the false accusations against my good character my the Liz Cheney Republican, EML. I did NOT lie!!!

      EML claims I said ALL polls show Trump ahead and I NEVER said that. What I said in post 86 was:

      That’s why poll after poll NOW shows America has buyers remorse and prefer Trump over any Dem.

      I understand there will be some outliers and if you wish to chastise me from not better qualifying that so be it but I did NOT lie.

      Silly argument to try to justify his TDS.

      I usually look at the RCP average and as shown below, Trump has bested Biden in 22 of 28 polls in the last 12 months, 13 out of 18 polls since Jan 2022 and 5 out of 6 polls since May 2022 so I think it’s reasonable to make the claim I made as Trump being preferred over Biden in poll after poll because no one realistically expects one person to win each poll 100% at this early stage.

      …and Trump is often beating Biden outside the MOE s well.

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html#polls

    405. jason says:

      Cornyn was elected in the presidential election year of 2020. Your assertion is that Trump is uniquely qualified to attract blue collar and Hispanic voters and will win more of either group than any other Republican. If that’s true, then how come John Cornyn, who is as milquetoast as you can get, did better than Trump with both of these groups?”

      Let’s put this really dumb straw argument to rest since the TDS moron keeps referring to it almost as much as the poll where Biden wins by 3, you have to keep repeating yourself if you are berefit of any real arguments.

      Texas is not one of the swing states where Trump’s impact on the blue collar vote was most felt, and the TDS moron knows I have repeatedly referenced the rust belt/upper midwest and NOT Texas, VA or FL which have different dynamics. Trump was never really that popular in TX even in 2016 he won OH by the same margin as TX. Romney won TX by 15 and lost OH by 3. So TX is a really poor example when talking about the blue collar vote.

      TX is not a swing state, and if Rs aren’t going to win there they might as well give up. Again, to win the presidential GE, Rs need to get some EVs out of the rust belt/midwest. They probably need 3/5 of OH, WI, MI, PA, MN.

      So bringing up a senate race in TX is just a way of really saying I have zero arguments, I just have TDS and I am a dumbass.

      Ok, I got it.

    406. EML says:

      That’s why poll after poll NOW shows America has buyers remorse and prefer Trump over any Dem.
      ============================
      Still lying. Actually, 2 lies in one here. “Poll after poll” implies every one. Trump does not lead in every poll. And you said that the polls show that voters prefer Trump over ANY Dem. Also not true.

      “That’s why poll after poll NOW shows America has buyers remorse and prefer Trump over any Dem.” is a lie.

      A truthful assessment is: Polls show Trump and Biden running even in 2024. Some polls have Trump ahead, some have Biden ahead. The RCP average is Trump +2.5, which is within the aggregate MoE, thus the race is tied.

    407. Tgca says:

      I just wiped the floor with the Liz Cheney Republican EML in post 410 for purposely distorting accusations of what I said to justify his TDS.

      According to RCP polls, Trump bests Biden 79% of the time in 12 months, 72% of the time since the beginning of 2022, and 83% of the time since May.

      Therefore, I think one can reasonably state Trump bests Biden in poll after poll with those percentages, and Trump often beats Biden outside the MOE but that’s not the case with Biden in the 6 polls he won where he NEVER beat Trump outside the MOE, and only beat Trump 21% if the time within the MOE and only 2 of the polls he won by 3%, one by 2%, and 3 by 1% therefore showing 67% of his wins were at the lowest end of the MOE.

      Compare that to Trump who bested Biden outside the MOE approximately 40% of the time, comfortably within the MOE 14% of the time, and on the edge of the MOE 21% of the time.

    408. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 19, 2022 at 11:57 am
      Walker is a fine candidate, a black man with a compelling life story of great achievements.

      – Walker is an untested, novice candidate with a history of mental issues. He also seems to be a tall tale teller and lied to his own staff about how many children he’s had outside of his marriage. And none of this, by the way, addresses what he even believes on issues of policy.

      The only reason you’re defending Walker is because he’s MAGA daddy’s pick and defending all things MAGA daddy is all you’re about these days. Before Trump came along, you would’ve said the same things about Walker’s candidacy that I’m saying. And for proof, all I need to do is go back and look at what you correctly said about Todd Akin when it became clear he was going to lose an unlosable seat.

      And don’t give me this crap about Walker not being a polished, country club Republican either. Some people may play the grotesque populist game well, but none of it is believable coming from an absolute fraud like you. If Walker had degrees from Oxford and Cambridge, you’d be touting his academic successes. You’ve just latched onto this BS populist crap because it’s what Donnie is puking up these days.

      Herschel Walker may be a fine and well-intentioned person, but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions as well. This is a race Republicans have to win and they’re in danger of losing it because MAGA daddy, an idiot, saddled the party with lightweight novice. And because of MAGA daddy, a scumbag commie is winning a race he should’ve lost in January 2021 were it not for Trump’s insane and destructive efforts to overturn an election he lost.

    409. Tgca says:

      412

      WRONG!

      I qualified my resources as RCP. They are pretty much the accepted aggregator here.

      If you wish to argue I missed ONE poll not in RCP, that’s fine but it is not me lying but rather the sources I used did not include one of your polls which are outside the trend of aggregated polls.

      It is silly to expect someone to qualify every single poll available since there may be many smaller polls we don’t routinely come across.

      You’re still trying to justify your TDS.

      It’s like calling someone a liar for saying there are 365 days in a year because they don’t factor in leap year.

    410. Tgca says:

      The Liz Cheney Republican has a new standard (see below) he applies to others but of course not himself.

      If you say there are 365 days in a year, you’re a LIAR as I can prove there were 366 days in 2016 and 2020 so I proved you are LYING!

    411. jason says:

      Herschel Walker may be a fine and well-intentioned person,”

      Good, you can stop there.

      A fine and well intentioned person is what we need to defeat a scumbag like Warnock.

      And Walker is no Todd Akin, the comparison is absurd.

      Walker is a good candidate, the only reason you hate him is that he was endorsed by Trump.

      You are so stupid you said you preferred Doug Collins, who was REALLY the guy Trump intended to endorse.

    412. jason says:

      This is a race Republicans have to win”

      Good.

      So stop attacking Walker and maybe pretend you are not rooting for Warnock.

      Make an effort. So far you fail.

    413. Tgca says:

      By the way, getting to the substance of this debate, Trump does significantly better than DeSantis in polls I’ve seen against Biden and other Dems including the very poll that the Liz Cheney Republican EML cited as Trump losing to Biden. See my post 95.

      So it makes no sense that the Liz Cheney Republican EML believes the GOP should dump Trump for DeSantis when DeSantis does much worse against the Dems in these polls.

      I guess Jadon is right and the Liz Cheney Republican EML is NOW teaming up with Robbie to push for candidates that are more likely to lose to Dems while pretending to really support a GOP win.

      Why else back someone who loses by 3 to 4 times greater than someone who doesn’t and has also had a record of winning a national election?

      Looks like his TDS has driven the Liz Cheney Republican EML to the dark side with Robbie and a bunch of other NEVER Trumpsters.

    414. EML says:

      So bringing up a senate race in TX is just a way of really saying I have zero arguments, I just have TDS and I am a dumbass.
      ================================
      Texas is just one of the many, many data points. It is one place where you can compare apples to apples. Texas had a Senate race in 2020 (WI, OH, and PA did not) and has enough Hispanics to show up in crosstabs.

      But if you want, we can use other data points. How about New Hampshire, a swing state Trump lost by 2 in 2016? Trump won non-college voters by 11. Chris Sununu won them by 39. Yikes for Trump.

      Or let’s go to Michigan. Your midwestern battleground state. John James did better with Hispanics than Trump did (-10 vs -11) and slightly worse with non-college voters (+4 vs +5). Those differences are probably due to rounding and they are within in the MoE, so I’m willing to say they ran even with both groups. How can that be if Trump is so uniquely attracting these voters?

      And I’ll hit VA one more time for good measure. Trump won the blue collar vote 62-38. Youngkin won 76-24. That is a YUUUUUGE difference that can’t be explained away by it being a different year.

      Republicans other than Trump are more than capable of expanding on Trump’s margin with blue collar voters. That’s what ALL the data points to. I have provided you with many data points.

      The fact is: you cannot show me one data point post-November 2020 that demonstrates your hypothesis that blue collar voters will leave the Republican Party if Trump is not on the ticket. Give me 1.

    415. EML says:

      If you wish to argue I missed ONE poll not in RCP, that’s fine but it is not me lying but rather the sources I used did not include one of your polls which are outside the trend of aggregated polls.
      =============================
      You are lying again. There is the NYT/Siena poll that shows up in RCP showing Biden beating Trump. You cultists can’t help but lie all the time.

    416. Tgca says:

      412

      So now the Liz Cheney Republican EML moves the goal posts to the RCP aggregate for Trump is ONLY 2.5% so it’s tied and moves away from the poll count where Trump leads in anywhere from 72% to 83% of those polls depending on which period you choose within the last year.

      I think it’s lost on the Liz Cheney Republican EML, that if you statistically lead 72% to 83% of the time in poll after poll, then most likely the final outcome will produce the same result because it’s consistent over a large population, especially in a 50-50 nation.

    417. Tgca says:

      421

      We are not lying. We are presenting legitimate arguments whereas you stick to your mantra-like argument to justify your TDS.

      If you say there’s 365 days in a year, you’re a LIAR! Sine years have 366 days!

    418. EML says:

      Trump cultist liars do love lying together.

    419. Tgca says:

      I dunno how old the Liz Cheney Republican is but someone should check his blood pressure and heart rate.

      He’s losing it today because me and my butt buddy and ally Jadon are crushing him and his 69ing partner Robbie.

    420. EML says:

      You cannot provide a single data point to back up your hypothesis and you have constantly lie. You ain’t winning anything. A loser, just like Trump.

    421. Tgca says:

      424

      …and Liz Cheney Republicans like you resort to the same tactics she does on the J6C and distort and mislead and don’t accept evidence contrary to the story you wish to spin.

      More proof you’re a Liz Cheney Republican.

      TYVM!

    422. EML says:

      One data point is all I’m asking for.

    423. Tgca says:

      426

      I provided you a list of aggregate polls showing Trump consistently beats Biden 72% to 83% of the time and often outside the MOE but you claim I show no data points.

      Ha! Ha! Ha!

      Oh Liz…get a grip. It’s like all those people who stormed the Capitol taking selfies that intended to take over the country with their cell phones…riiiiiiighr?

    424. Tgca says:

      Please ‘splain why the GOP should dump Trump if these polls you rely SO MUCH on to justify your TDS show DeSantis doing worse against Dems than Trump.

      Does it not make sense to bet on the candidate with the better chance?

      Does your TDS block your ability to reason Liz?

    425. EML says:

      This statement is a blatant lie:

      That’s why poll after poll NOW shows America has buyers remorse and prefer Trump over any Dem.
      ==============================
      And now you are admitting it by saying that only 72% of the polls show Trump ahead. Thank you for owning up to being a liar. Now everyone knows it.

    426. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 19, 2022 at 12:32 pm
      And Walker is no Todd Akin, the comparison is absurd.

      Walker is a good candidate, the only reason you hate him is that he was endorsed by Trump.

      – Walker made up a story that he was in the FBI. Good candidates don’t outlandishly lie like that.

      He’s a bad candidate who may win, but he’s still a bad candidate.

      If you would pull your head out of Trump’s butt, you’d see that.

    427. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      July 19, 2022 at 12:36 pm
      By the way, getting to the substance of this debate, Trump does significantly better than DeSantis in polls I’ve seen against Biden and other Dems

      – You continue to say this without acknowledging Trump and Biden have 100% name ID and DeSantis doesn’t. It matters.

    428. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      July 19, 2022 at 12:58 pm
      Please ‘splain why the GOP should dump Trump if these polls you rely SO MUCH on to justify your TDS show DeSantis doing worse against Dems than Trump.

      Does it not make sense to bet on the candidate with the better chance?

      – Again, Trump has 100% name ID and DeSantis doesn’t. That matters. You know it matters, but you’re invested in propping up Trump.

      If you think a twice impeached lunatic who organized a riot and can only serve one term is a better option than a popular big state governor in his 40’s, then you’ve lost the plot. Of course, I don’t think you’ve lost the plot because you are a Trump loyalist to the core.

      Just as I noted over the last few days, Jason fraud and the gang are going to be against DeSantis. They aren’t going to openly attack him right now. They’re just going to raise questions about him and try and convince everyone Trump’s just a safer bet.

    429. Robbie says:

      Polling may show the country has buyer’s remorse over Biden, but nothing suggests they prefer Trump over Biden. For every Trafalgar poll that always seem to put Donnie and his candidates in a good light, there’s a Siena poll that shows Biden with a 33% approval rating and still beating Trump.

    430. EML says:

      if these polls you rely SO MUCH
      ================================
      The ONLY reason I brought up the polls AT ALL is because I caught you in a lie. I personally don’t give a rat’s a$$ about what pre-election polls say until a month or two before an election. They are meaningless.

      Again, go read Sean Trende’s article from last week. Polls in July have a horrendous track record predicting the November outcome. Eg, at this point in 2010, RCP had Lee Fisher beating Rob Portman. Portman won by 19.4. Pre-election polls right now are meaningless, let alone polls July 2022 for the November 2024 election.

      I don’t care about the polls. What I care about is that you blatantly lied and said all the polls show voters prefer Trump over any Dem. Stop lying.

    431. EML says:

      I guess I wasn’t here for tgca’s big makeover into a brainwashed Trump cultist, but does anyone else thing he is just trolling? He seems more like a Dem caricature of a Trump cultist than someone who actually believes the nonsense that he is saying. I am skeptical that someone can actually be this obtuse. Is he putting on a performance to egg on jason the other Trump cultist?

    432. Tina says:

      Long shot*.

      Auto correct

    433. EML says:

      Will Dave W start a new thread for Maryland primary today?

    434. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca is a complex man. He is gay but not an expert on gay issues. He is a conservative who thinks Romney is a racist, landlords are evil profiteers, and thinks Zalensky is like Stalin.

    435. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The voters are on the Biden’s sleazy family corruption:

      “A new national telephone and online survey by Rasmussen Reports finds that 69% of Likely U.S. voters believe it’s likely the president was aware of at least some of Hunter Biden’s major foreign business dealings, including 49% who think it is Very Likely. Just 22% don’t think it is likely President Biden was aware of his son’s foreign deals, and 10% are not sure.”

    436. Tgca says:

      The Liz Cheney Republican proves nothing other than he doesn’t understand polling. Everyone understands trends and when someone says winning in poll after poll they get that means a trend and not an absolute because nothing is absolute in polling.

      On election night if forecasts show POTUS has a 80% chance of winning, you don’t argue it’s a LIE when people start calling it a win.

      Liz is trying to speak in absolutes to justify his TDS.

      He suggests DeSantis is the ideal 2024 candidate but his own polls he cites show DeSantis getting beat by all Dems at a statistically significant higher percentage than Trump.

      How do you choose the candidate most likely to lose to Dems over the candidate

      He refuses to explain that and keeps repeating the same line over and over and is aligning with Robbie on this issue.

      Trump has the trend on his side with beating Biden in 22 of 28 polls per RCP, including 5 of the last 6.

      I don’t know what EML does for work but clearly it can’t be anything associated with analysis or counting.

      Imagine if EML was a heart surgeon. He’d argue he can’t operate on an otherwise dying patient unless there is a 100% chance the operation would be successful so instead the patient dies because EML fails to operate.

      That’s the level of his TDS we’re dealing with here between him and his 69ing partner Robbie.

    437. EML says:

      Imagine if tgca was a heart surgeon. 28% of his patients die but he claims a 100% survival rate. This is a person who has habitual problems with the truth.

    438. Tgca says:

      441

      I am complex Bitter, as are you who believes drunk drivers should be shown no mercy and prosecuted except for GWB caught driving drunk or when you claim you don’t support wokeism but you watches every woke sports event that gives wokesters their woke platform to preach their wokeism or when you claims people who are depressed are just weak in the face of basic 7th grade science that knows better.

      People are indeed complex.

    439. Bitterlaw says:

      Damn. The last sentence of 443 can’t be unread.

    440. Bitterlaw says:

      I visit the grave of my biggest failure when I am in New Jersey. Hopefully, even Tgclown does not have to carry that type of burden even though he is often wrong.

    441. Tgca says:

      444

      No Liz!

      In that case, I would tell the patient they have a 72% chance of surviving if they chose the operation as opposed to a 100% chance of dying if they don’t have the operation.

      There! I fixed it for you.

      This translates to Trump having a 72% to 83% chance of winning the 2024 election based on current polls as opposed to DeSantis who has 0% chance of winning per the polls.

      Make sense now!

      You still think DeSantis should be the nomine over Trump based on current polling?

    442. SoHope says:

      A poll just came out of Michigan showing DeSantis only down by 3 against Trump which is pretty damn good with 12% undecided. Considering Trump lost to a Houseplant by over 150k in MI we might want a dual threat candidate that can get the suburbs too. When RDS wins reelection in FL by double digits and actually declares he’ll be in the driver seat for the normination. DeSantis doesn’t have a Trump problem. Trump has a DeSantis problem.

    443. SoHope says:

      That is of course unless Trump is willing to pull a Chris Christie and suicide on him killing both of their chances. There’s always that so I do hope he decides to save face and play Kingmaker.

    444. Tgca says:

      447

      Bitter, this is not about your grief and belief you think you failed someone that took their life. I don’t believe that.

      This is about challenging your thinking process that evades common sense under the circumstances and existing science. I think everyone here feels bad for anyone that loses a loved one but you open yourself to cross-examination when you mock others about their reasoning vs your own.

      I don’t now, or ever seriously believed there was anything you could single-handedly have done under the circumstances in your loss. But I do believe you should be challenged on your views like the rest of us here if you strongly state them which you have done in the past.

      As for grief, we all feel it. I am reminded of it temporarily daily when I get up and see the box with my dogs ashes on my bureau after tending to her going on 18 years. There’s not a day I’m not reminded of her passing and I still dream often of her, including last night and in a couple of days it will be 3 years since she passed.

      Grief is grief and you should not feel you can’t work through your grief. No one wants to deny you your grieving process.

      If I had a magic wand I would make your grief go away but I can’t so it’s something only you can work through.

    445. Bitterlaw says:

      EML’s FB page is filled with conservative posts as well as posts shredding Biden.

      I expect all those in this fight will ultimately vote for the GOP nominee in 2024 – except for Robbie and Jason (who has pledged to not vote).

    446. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca just compared the death of his dog to the death of my niece. I thought there was a low point even he would not go. I was wrong.

    447. EML says:

      Did tgca just compare his stupid dead dog to bitter’s niece? What a horrible human being.

    448. Tgca says:

      453

      I did no such thing. I compared grief and working through it which is a human reaction regardless of the cause of the grief.

      How would you like it if I told you your grief for your niece is not comparable to the grief I feel for my brother because a brother is much closer than a niece and in his case, he suffered tremendously with a painful cancer?

      …and for the record, many people put their pets above other people in their lives so loss of a pet should not be treated as unimportant.

      That goes to my point on your beliefs. You believe ONLY what you believe is important and mock others or minimize their views for their belief.

      I took care of my dog day and night for going on 18 years so you have no right to minimize my grief against yours.

    449. Tgca says:

      454

      So we’re ranking grief now?

      This is the problem with small-minded folks at HHR. People are not treated differently for their grief based on what causes the grief.

      You think there’s a medicine you take for grief if you lose a niece vs one for losing a brother vs a dog?

    450. jason says:

      He seems more like a Dem caricature”

      Tgca would get some points if he was an A-hole.

    451. Bitterlaw says:

      Your brother was a human. My niece was a human. Your act has worn thin and tired. Given the chance, you mentioned your dog and not your brother. GFY, you sad little man.

    452. EML says:

      Your dog is not a person, a$$hat. People who put animals on the same plane as human beings are absolute f*cking idiots. I can’t stand idiots who call their pets furbabies. Those people can go to hell. A pet is in no way comparable to having a child.

      Most animals exist to be eaten. A select few exist to be pets. If a pet dies, you throw him in the furnace and get a new one. Comparing your grief over a dead pet to bitter’s grief over his niece committing suicide is abhorrent.

    453. Tgca says:

      EML

      Don’t make me choose. If I had to choose between saving your life or the life of my dog, I would chose my dog because I have a deep connection with her. Sorry! I would expect that you choose equally.

      That’s the way the world works.

    454. jason says:

      Jason (who has pledged to not vote).”

      Zzzzzz.. I didn’t “pledge” a goddam thing.

      I no longer vote in PA because it is a corrupt system that I don’t want to be part of. I have no interest in a system where you vote doesn’t count or it is diluted by illegal votes.

      I don’t expect it to change, but maybe I will move to another state that has at least a pretense of voter integrity.

      In any case

    455. jason says:

      Most animals exist to be eaten”

      Finally the TDS moron says something I can agree with.

    456. EML says:

      Uh, no. I would save the human being 100% of the time because I’m a decent person.

    457. Tgca says:

      459

      I look forward you to holding a scientific seminar explaining to the scientific world how the human brain is wired and why your personal belief should drive how the human body processes grief.

      You make the error of thinking grief can be shut off by the cause and we know that scientifically is not possible. It goes to the same extent of depression. Most people can handle it and are fine in the long run and a few do not and commit suicide.

      Are you suggesting those suicidal ones should just shut off their feelings and deal with it?

      That goes to the whole premise of my argument about body and brain chemistry and what we can and cannot control about grief, depression, and other mental illnesses.

    458. jason says:

      Damm, I would have to choose between Lupita and EML?

      I guess I would have to let EML live, even TDS morons are human.

      I don’t think there is a cure for TDS but who knows, scientists might be working on it right now.

    459. Bitterlaw says:

      So Jason will not be voting in PA. Got it.

    460. EML says:

      Yes, I agree, you certainly have a mental illness.

    461. jason says:

      A poll just came out of Michigan showing DeSantis only down by 3 against Trump which is pretty damn good”

      LOL

      The TDS morons are hilarious.

      The one poll showing Biden over Trump by 3 was VERY SIGNIFICANT, MOMENTOUS, FATAL AND DEFINITIVE.

      A poll in MI showing DeSantis LOSING to Trump by 3 is “pretty damm good”.

      I love it here.

    462. Tgca says:

      463

      It has nothing to do with decency. It has to do with personal relationship and brain chemistry.

      Get a clue. Read a science book.

      You are arguing against science and making the same mistake Bitter did for years arguing depression was a weakness instead of understanding it was a mental illness ruled by the brain chemistry.

      Anyone with a deep personal connection can feel uncontrollable sorrow or grief.

      If that is the case, then ABORTION should be fine because it is not a human yet that people can identify with and I don’t believe that.

    463. EML says:

      The one poll showing Biden over Trump by 3 was VERY SIGNIFICANT, MOMENTOUS, FATAL AND DEFINITIVE.
      ========================
      Another lie. Nobody said any such thing.

    464. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 19, 2022 at 4:25 pm

      So Jason will not be voting in PA. Got it.”

      Exactly. Although as we know people who are not registered do vote here, so who knows…

    465. jason says:

      Another lie. Nobody said any such thing.”

      It was VERY SIGNIFICANT, MOMENTOUS, FATAL AND DEFINITIVE enough for you to keep quoting it like the Ten Commandments.

    466. jason says:

      Yes, I agree, you certainly have a mental illness.”

      If you don’t have TDS you are mentally ill.

      If you have TDS you are a paragon of mental health.

      Okayyyy…..

    467. EML says:

      It has nothing to do with decency.
      ==========================
      It has everything to do with being a normal, decent human being.

      But I understand where you are coming from. You are a far left nutjob. Left wing indoctrination states that the planet is overpopulated, that people shouldn’t be having children, and that animals are more important than people. It’s not that you are wired differently, it’s that you are indoctrinated.

      If Joe Biden and my dog are drowning, I save Joe Biden. Anyone who says different is a psychopath who needs to be locked up.

    468. SoHope says:

      Nov 3rd 2020, Trump trailed Biden in a poll by over 4%. It had a sample size of over 155 million.

    469. Tgca says:

      Like humans, dogs have a complex brain structure and feel pain and suffering so for you to suggest just get a new pet suggests you probably never owned one or should NEVER own one because you treat pets as disposable.

      Scientifically speaking, pets experience the same wide range of pain and emotions that humans feel. The only reason many see it differently is because humans are at the top of the food chain. That does not make it right though, hence the reasons we now have laws against animal abuse.

      You think like slave owners who though AA were less than human and they were disposable.

      I do not think that way. I think pets are part of a family and experience the same range of physical and psychological pain that humans feel. There is no difference in the pain felt if you torture a person or animal. Torture is torture!

      You better hope we don’t come across advanced civilizations in this universe because they could justifiably make the same claim you do, that humans are lesser beings and disposable.

    470. jason says:

      Nov 3rd 2020, Trump trailed Biden in a poll by over 4%. It had a sample size of over 155 million.”

      Ah yes, let’s ignore the Constitution and pretend the election is decided by popular vote.

      Another great Dem talking point.

    471. SoHope says:

      But Trump declared that to be a fake poll.

    472. EML says:

      for you to suggest just get a new pet suggests you probably never owned one or should NEVER own one because you treat pets as disposable.
      =========================
      I can assure you that I have put down more animals than you have pet in your entire life. This absurd idea that animals are on the same plane as humans is idiotic left wing nonsense.

    473. Tgca says:

      474

      I am not far left as almost 2 decades posting here proves.

      You’re the one aligning yourself with TDS and Robbie by your recent posts that demonstrate leftist talking points.

      Evidently you don’t even know what the term psychopath means.

      Learn a little about science and you will know that it is body chemistry that controls how people generally feel. It is controllable to within reasons but many mental illnesses are not.

      You insult and demean people with serious mental illness by trying to put your personal non-scientific beliefs on what drives mental illness.

      You are making the same mistake Bitter did.

    474. Bitterlaw says:

      Hmmmmm. Maybe this fight will go longer than 9 days.

    475. EML says:

      So then we agree. People who equate humans to animals are mentally ill.

    476. Tgca says:

      So EML claims you save humans because that’s what decent people do no matter how horrible you find that human to be. Then I guess EML does not believe in capital punishment because that would go against the concept of saving humans.

      I guess EML would save a child rapist or mass murdering terrorist if he could because humans are meant to be saved and because that’s what decent people believe.

    477. jason says:

      I actually don’t mind if more polls come out showing DeSantis doing well against Trump because maybe it will dissuade Trump from running.

      If Trump would decide not to run and endorse DeSantis that would certainly make things a lot more simple.

      But of course, that doesn’t mean DeSantis is the best candidate for the GE.

      I was convinced in 2016 that the best candidate Rs could field in the GE was Rubio. The worst: Trump followed closely by Jeb!

      I was right about Jeb, he would have been crushed, wrong about Rubio, he would have lost, and wrong about Trump.

    478. EML says:

      I guess EML would save a child rapist or mass murdering terrorist
      ========================
      The King of Strawmen is back

    479. jason says:

      People who equate humans to animals are mentally ill.”

      I am not offended because Lupita IS human.

      Reminds me of the joke where a woman walks into a shrink’s office with a kangaroo on a leash.

      The shrink asks “what is your problem”?

      The woman says, “oh, I don’t have a problem. My husband has a problem. He thinks he is a kangaroo”.

    480. Tgca says:

      482

      I doubt EML knows the definition of mental illness or he would not be degrading people suffering symptoms of mental illness or disorders.

      I believe EML suffers mental illness with his TDS.

      Depression is a medical issue. You degrade people if you tell them their grief, a product of depression is something they should be able to rank or turn on and off at will.

      Most people have suffered from mental illness at varying levels at one time or another. If you’ve been depressed or grieved, you’ve suffered from mental illness and or mental disorders

    481. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 19, 2022 at 4:47 pm

      Hmmmmm. Maybe this fight will go longer than 9 days.”

      This fight has been gone on for years, just with different actors.

      EML and SoHope have rejoined us after long absences and both have terminal TDS.

      But it is all good.

    482. SoHope says:

      Jason, I’m not talking about election, just a very YUGE poll in 2020 that showed that the majority of voters thought Trump was $hit compared to a houseplant. Maybe you’re ready to lube up and take Trump’s shriveled mushroom up the arse for round 3 because he demands it but I’m not.

    483. EML says:

      Thinking animals are people is an indication that you suffer from a mental illness. Animals are not people.

    484. Tgca says:

      485

      You are the king of absolutes here.

      Is a human life worth saving or not? Yes or no?

      It should not matter their personality or deeds in life. By your own words and implications, the fact they are human qualifies saving because they are above animals.

      So would you save a child rapist or mass murdering terrorist?

      It’s a clinical question over a “feelings” question.

      Can a doctor legally refuse to save a human life if the person is a criminal or has something about them they dislike?

    485. EML says:

      It should not matter their personality or deeds in life.
      =========================
      More evidence that you’re an idiot. Their deeds do matter. If you wantonly take another life, you forfeit yours.

    486. EML says:

      Equating putting down your dog with bitter’s niece committing suicide is abhorrent.

    487. Gil says:

      Just a couple of questions for some of our more up to date HHR ass*****.

      1. The Trafalgar poll shows Trump up by more than 5 points nationally. If you take out the over populated liberal states of Californa, Illinois, New York, and Mass, how large is Trump’s lead in the swing states where the election will be decided.

      2. With the 2020 census complete, how many electoral votes have swung to states Republicans normally win for the presidency and away from the Democrats. I know that the electoral votes have swung to the Republicans, just wondering how many.

      3. Sometimes I miss Polaris and his ability to break down polling for everyone.

    488. SoHope says:

      Gil, there is zero chance of Biden running again.

    489. jason says:

      Jason, I’m not talking about election, just a very YUGE poll in 2020 that showed that the majority of voters thought Trump ”

      “Maybe you’re ready to lube up and take Trump’s shriveled mushroom up the arse for round 3 because he demands it but I’m not.”

      I love TDS logic, it show how sick TDS morons are.

      So we should be very “concerned” about the “majority of people” in the fraudulent 2020 election but we should ignore the majority of R voters if they prefer Trump to be the nominee in 2024?

    490. Tgca says:

      492

      So then it’s justifiable to save a pet over a child rapist then or do you still choose to save the child rapist?

      Where are these rules you live by written? What is the authority of them? Can others have different rules?

      Can someone justify saving the life of a rich person that contributes to society’s benefit over the life of a young poor drug addict with little chance of survival over a few years?

      Where do YOU draw the line and why is that different than others?

    491. jason says:

      If you take out the over populated liberal states of Californa, Illinois, New York, and Mass, how large is Trump’s lead in the swing states where the election will be decided.”

      A lot higher than 5 points.

    492. EML says:

      Equating putting down your dog with bitter’s niece committing suicide is abhorrent.

    493. Tina says:

      The Trafalgar poll is eye opening.

      That is a big lead. (Over 5 actually).

    494. jason says:

      I know WV lost a seat so that is one R seat lost.

      FL gained two. MT one. TX 2? OR 1. NC 1.

      CA lost one. So did NY, IL, PA, OH and MI.

    495. Tgca says:

      494

      494

      Gil has a point. It goes to the nuance. If you take out the most lopsided states, Trump probably would have the upper hand but it does not matter since that’s not the way the final EV count works.

      Same with natural resources. It’s the GOP states that provide most resources in the US today. The US could more easily survive without the Dem states than without the GOP states.

      As for EV, I believe 3 net seats (5 won and 2 lost) have moved to the GOP at this point in the EV count going forward.

    496. EML says:

      I know WV lost a seat so that is one R seat lost.

      FL gained two. MT one. TX 2? OR 1. NC 1.

      CA lost one. So did NY, IL, PA, OH and MI.
      ============================
      By my reckoning, which is different from some others, California and Ohio eliminated a Dem seat. Illinois, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia eliminated Republican seats.

      3 new seats are Dem leaning: NC-14, OR-06, TX-37
      3 new seats are Rep leaning: CO-08, FL-15, MT-01, and TX-38

    497. Phil says:

      Baris polling released today indicates Lake is on the verge of closing out Robson in Arizona. Leading 43-29. This one is about done.

    498. EML says:

      *4 new seats are Rep leaning (so overall -1 for GOP, although that Colorado seat is really marginal).

    499. Tgca says:

      501

      Hey Butt Buddy

      Maybe in wrong. I thought the GOP had a net of 3 based on a +5 and -2 but I could be wrong.

    500. EML says:

      Maybe in wrong. I thought the GOP had a net of 3 based on a +5 and -2 but I could be wrong.
      ======================
      Always wrong, never in doubt.

    501. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 19, 2022 at 3:34 pm
      I expect all those in this fight will ultimately vote for the GOP nominee in 2024 – except for Robbie and Jason

      – I’ll vote for any Republican in 2024 not named Trump. I refuse to vote for Trump.

    502. EML says:

      Somebody bookmark it

    503. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 19, 2022 at 4:28 pm
      The one poll showing Biden over Trump by 3 was VERY SIGNIFICANT, MOMENTOUS, FATAL AND DEFINITIVE.

      A poll in MI showing DeSantis LOSING to Trump by 3 is “pretty damm good”.

      – You’ve been telling us MAGA daddy is in a dominant position. So when a poll comes out that shows him barely beating someone who has much lower name ID and hasn’t even tried to campaign nationally, it does mean something. For an ex president to be just three points ahead two years out is terrible for the ex president.

    504. Tgca says:

      482

      I never once said my dog was human. So that is a LIE!

      I referenced the science behind grief, regardless of the cause.

      People experience grief differently and we don’t fully understand why due to the complexity of the brain. That’s why some people can lose a child and still be able to function in life while others can get dumped by a girlfriend and never recover from that sense of loss and grieve forever and commit suicide.

      Doctors do not prescribe medication and treatment based on the cause of the grief but rather on the level of grief experienced and associated symptoms.

      That’s my point. We don’t rank grief. We try to address the symptoms of it regardless of the causes.

      It’s the SCIENCE STOOPID!

    505. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      July 19, 2022 at 5:22 pm
      Baris polling released today indicates Lake is on the verge of closing out Robson in Arizona. Leading 43-29. This one is about done.

      – Liberal “let’s vote by cell phone” huckster Lake may win, but the race is margin of error. Baris is a huckster.

    506. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie did not vote for Trump in 2020 or 2016. Did not vote for Romney in 2012. Not sure what he did in 2008.

      No chance he votes for the GOP nominee in 2024.

    507. EML says:

      Unless it’s Jeb or George P Bush.

    508. Tgca says:

      507

      Ummm. What were you saying about ALWAYS WRONG Liz?

      Two links below confirm my assertion in 506 the GOP netted a 3 state pick-up in the EV count unless they’ve changed recently.

      GOP States Gain +5
      TX +2
      FL +1
      MO +1
      NC +1

      GOP States Lose -2
      OH -1
      WV -1

      Net GOP States Gain +3

      Thirteen states gained or lost electoral votes following the 2020 Census:[2]

      Texas gained two votes.
      Colorado, Florida, Montana, North Carolina, and Oregon each gained one.
      California, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia each lost one.

      https://ballotpedia.org/Electoral_College_in_the_2024_presidential_election

      https://electoralvotemap.com/heres-the-new-electoral-map-after-the-2020-census/

    509. EML says:

      Missouri didn’t gain a seat, Always Wrong

    510. SoHope says:

      Ohhh so are we rebalancing polls again… Polaris where are you with your daily dose of Copium.

    511. EML says:

      Ohhh so are we rebalancing polls again… Polaris where are you with your daily dose of Copium.
      ============================
      Same thing happened in 2020. That worked out well.

    512. EML says:

      Dr. Oz twitter:

      Text “LOST” to 26771 to help find John Fetterman!

    513. Phil says:

      Baris has a record, Robbie. It is solid, and I’ve cited it for you. I’m getting weary of reciting it for you. Quit making a fool out of yourself.

    514. DW says:

      “Gil, there is zero chance of Biden running again.”

      Of course he is running again, and does so frequently. They have him on meds to try to stop it, but if they give him too much, then he gets constipated.

    515. Tgca says:

      516

      Typo. I listed Montana in the email since folks here were talking about state leanings and not actual state districts.

      You are still wrong though thinking the GOP has +4 in its column on the EV count. GOP states got 3 more EV.

      That’s why I noted in earlier posts that Trump’s 2020 win would be starting with 235 in 2024 instead of 232 and without WI, MI, and/or PA in some combination it is nearly impossible for DeSantis to win POTUS unless he wins all expected GOP states plus NV and NH.

      Trump is the only GOP candidate in decades to get MI, WI, and PA.

      Historically, EVs were awarded at state level except for NE and ME.

    516. EML says:

      That’s just you though. Always Wrong about something. Every post, always something wrong. That’s why you’re Always Wrong. Can’t even get the states right. Shame shame Always Wrong.

    517. Tgca says:

      523

      We can say the same here of you. Every post is filled with bad assumptions, errors, wrong facts, mischaracterizations, lack of comprehension, etc.

      STOP trying to move the goal posts!

      You tried to mock me for having the wrong number and it was YOU that had the wrong number. Should we mark that for prosperity too?

      Your TDS is a mental illness that won’t let you concede your mistakes.

      Me and my butt buddy Jadon have been kicking your butt all over this board on these issues and NOW you have aligned yourself with the biggest troll of all at HHR.

      By the way, how is your political 69ing going with Robbie?

    518. EML says:

      I didn’t get anything wrong. I posted the 7 deleted and 7 new congressional districts. Always Wrong strikes again.

    519. Robbie says:

      CNBC
      @CNBC
      Trump urged Wisconsin Assembly speaker in July to decertify Biden 2020 election win

      – But Trump’s totally going to pivot and talk about the future when he runs again.

    520. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 19, 2022 at 5:40 pm
      Robbie did not vote for Trump in 2020 or 2016. Did not vote for Romney in 2012. Not sure what he did in 2008.

      No chance he votes for the GOP nominee in 2024.

      – I absolutely voted for McCain in 2008.

      I absolutely voted for Romney in 2012 even though he ran a crappy, messageless campaign.

      I absolutely refused to vote for MAGA daddy.

    521. Robbie says:

      EML says:
      July 19, 2022 at 5:42 pm
      Unless it’s Jeb or George P Bush.

      – I’m reasonably sure their political careers are over, especially Jeb. He hasn’t been a candidate for anything since February 2016. That’s more than six years.

      I guess it’s possible George P could try and resurrect his political career down the road, but my guess is he’ll try and lay low and make some private sector money over the next four or five years.

    522. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      July 19, 2022 at 5:57 pm
      Baris has a record, Robbie. It is solid, and I’ve cited it for you. I’m getting weary of reciting it for you. Quit making a fool out of yourself.

      – The only ones making fools of themselves are those who believe Baris is anything other than a bought and paid for Trump huckster. Where’s all of that oppo research he swore was coming on Kemp? And what about his claim Perdue was still in the race?

      You found Baris late in 2020 and liked him because was telling you what you wanted to hear. But it was all a sham. He’s part of Steve Bannon’s BS operation and no one should want anything to do with that crowd.

    523. Tgca says:

      525

      You LIE Liz!

      You stated +4 when we were talking about states EV. That’s what matters in a POTUS election, the state level totals. Individual congressional districts don’t matter since the state total EV count figures into who wins POTUS with a minor note for NE and ME.

      You’re trying to backtrack. Go back and look at the posts.

      In 494, Gil started the conversation asking about how it swung states and would impact presidential elections. Jadon opined in post 501 and I opined in 502. Jadon and I had the same result. Your post in 505 states +4 which is wrong from an EV count that determines the winner in the GE.

      The posts prove this. You want me to list them all again?

      Funny! You LIE and move goal posts to support your TDS but accuse others of what we actually have proof you do.

      OWN IT! You were wrong!

      You tried to mock me for being wrong and it backfired onto you.

      Anyone reading the posts can see that.

      Now go get a room with Robbie so you guys can come up with more TDS nonsense.

    524. EML says:

      Lol, take a look at 503. Imbecile. Always Wrong, never in doubt.

    525. jason says:

      You’ve been telling us MAGA daddy is in a dominant position.”

      I have?

      Or was it you that said if Trump runs he will win the nomination?

      I am sure I can find it just a few threads ago.

      Wanna bet?

    526. Tgca says:

      531

      Hey Liz:

      I did look at 503. You actually quote Jadon’s response from 501 but then go on about irrelevant info to the original inquiry made of Gil that Jadon and me responded to.

      How does this change the electoral outcome? That was the essence of the inquiry. It was NEVER about what seats in states got turned over, consolidated, etc.

      This is what matters when counting the votes of who will be POTUS.

      If Trump ran in 2024 and won the exact same states, would the EV count be 235 (232+3) or 236 (232+4)? Tell us please!

    527. jason says:

      Just a quick look and already found one..

      Robbie says:
      May 13, 2022 at 7:31 pm

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      May 13, 2022 at 7:24 pm
      Given the present polling now, and the likely Republican gains in the 2022 election, and Trump’s strong lead over Biden in the polling for the 2024 election — being a Democratic troll now is a bit like being a passenger on the Titanic”.

      This is what will happen with Donnie. As long as he’s mostly out of sight, he’ll poll reasonably well. But the moment he become a reality for the voting public, he fall back as people are reminded at how much he wore them out.

      DeSantis is a sure fire winner in 2024, but most of you prefer a lunatic so we’ll get a lunatic as the nominee.”

    528. jason says:

      Sounds like it is Amoral Scumbag who thinks Trump is in the “dominant position”.

    529. Tgca says:

      Jadon, with your great wisdom *hack hack cough cough* – excuse me – can you please settle this dispute with Liz please?

      Given the recent census changes, how many net EV will the GOP get and the Dems lose?

      We both gave equivalent responses in 501 and 502 and I followed it up with two confirming links in 515 but Liz uses your response to try and justify his position.

      I say the GOP beys +3 EV based on those sources meaning if Trump ran again and won the exact sAme states his EV total would increase to 235 from 232 and Biden would decrease by that same amount.

      What say you?

    530. Tgca says:

      I think I figured it out. Liz must think we’re counting as Hispanics do and thinking Tres means four.

      I would agree if it was about how many tacos I should get. I would say 4 instead of 3 but tacos aren’t EV.

    531. Tgca says:

      534

      DeSantis is a sure fire winner?

      What polls? The only recent one I’ve seen with DeSantis was referenced by the Liz Cheney Republican EML who mocked Trump losing to Biden when the same pollster shows DeSantis losing to the main three Dems at 3 to 4 times the rate of loss than Trump.

      Not that I put much stock in these early polls but it’s all we have to source to date.

      There’s only two expected ways for DeSantis to win in 2024 even with the net +3 EVs to the GOP states. He has to replicate Trump’s win in 2016 at some level for WI, MI, and PA or he has to win all other GOP states plus NV and NH. Nothing else realistically gets DeSantis to 270+.

      Trump was the only GOPer in decades to win those critical states so one has to realistically believe DeSantis will also outperform all other GOP candidates the last few decades. Based on what? I dunno at this time.

    532. Bitterlaw says:

      Still no answer on the origins of why EML is called a Liz Cheney Republican when he voted for Trump twice and has not supported the J6 investigation.

    533. jason says:

      Still no answer on the origins of why EML is called a Liz Cheney Republican”

      I will take a shot.

      He has TDS worse than she does, if that is possible.

      I think the shoe fits perfectly.

    534. jason says:

      We both gave equivalent responses in 501 and 502 and I followed it up with two confirming links in 515 but Liz uses your response to try and justify his position.

      I say the GOP beys +3 EV based on those sources meaning if Trump ran again and won the exact sAme states his EV total would increase to 235 from 232 and Biden would decrease by that same amount.

      What say you?”

      Sorry to cop out, but I don’t have a dog in this fight and I don’t really know. If you read 503 I was writing from memory and even have a question mark on TX.

      You will have to fight it out with Lizzie.

    535. jason says:

      EML and Amoral Scumbag have the same talking points.

      If I was EML, I wouldn’t exactly be proud.

    536. Tgca says:

      Excellent article showing what a lying hypocrite Dr. Birx was which eventually forced her into retiring when the pressure was put on her by certain media folks for her Thanksgiving vacation gathering to an out-of-state family event she recommended all others forego.

      She is up there with the woke celebrities who regularly travel the world on private jets and yachts but then lecture common folks about cutting back on their lifestyle choices to save the world.

      https://brownstone.org/articles/dr-birx-praises-herself-while-revealing-ignorance-treachery-and-deceit/

    537. Phil says:

      Sorry, Robbie. Baris has been in the margin of error in every state race 2016-2020 and you want to ignore that little detail based on a single Georgia primary miss? Are you kidding me?

      Scream Trump Huckster all you want. His results have been accurate across the board. That’s just a fact…..but you have no problem with pollsters paid for by the likes of NBC, ABC, CBS, the Washington Post, NYT, Reuters? With their bias? With their laughable track records over the last six years? Seriously? I cited for your benefit the laughable results of MSM pollsters last night in detail. I could add many other states to the examples I gave you last night but it would be a waste of my time.

      Results matter. Scream huckster all you want but you aren’t basing it on the data. The data is there for you to check. Do it. Fact is, you just don’t like the results. End of story. We went over the laughable results of the MSM pollsters last night. They’re nothing but pathetic…..but yeah, Baris with his six years worth of results is the “huckster”.

    538. Tgca says:

      541

      Lizzie? Thanks, I like that better than typing out the Liz Cheney Republican EML.

      The answer is the GOP states netted 3 EV per sources as Lizzie tried to mock me on.

      I answered Gil’s inquiry in 494 with the correct answer. Lizzie did not.

    539. Bitterlaw says:

      HHR makes for strange alliances depending on the issue. Jason is currently aligned with one of Putin’s biggest supporters.

    540. Tgca says:

      546

      Hmmm. Well I dunno.

    541. Tina says:

      Reuters
      @Reuters
      · 2h
      Biden approval rating falls to 36%, matching record low: Reuters/Ipsos poll http://reut.rs/3RLwJZ3

    542. Tgca says:

      546

      Using gay lingo, Lizzie has accused me and Jadon of being butt buddies.

      I respond in similar gay lingo that Lizzie is 69ing with Robbie and swallowing anything he spews out.

    543. Tgca says:

      546

      …and I see Jadon aligns with you on some things except for your supporting woke sportsman and virtual signaling.

    544. Bitterlaw says:

      Hmmmm. Watching sports like I did for decades before the term woke was invented OR being Putin’s bitch like you are now. I am relieved to not be you.

    545. jason says:

      Jason is currently aligned with one of Putin’s biggest supporters.”

      Because neither of has TDS like the TDS morons?

      Yawwwwnnnnnn….

    546. Tgca says:

      551

      Let’s see…hmmm…

      …when most conservatives took a principled decision and turned away from woke sports in 2020 that advocating against all the things you claim to support, you instead helped these wokesters raise more money and give them a bully pulpit by following their sports.

      You also support radically left Philly and claim you want to move back there when again the vast majority of those scum sucking city dwellers wish to dismantle everything decent in this country and that conservatism stands for but you want to live among them and run with them…

      …and for someone that is so privileged yet so miserable for decades proudly goes by the profile name Bitter because it represents his personality…

      …well…

      …given all that, I’m very glad not to be you and I suspect most people, conservative or not would feel the same way.

    547. jason says:

      I respond in similar gay lingo that Lizzie is 69ing with Robbie and swallowing anything he spews out.”

      Yeah EML has really picked a great role model here to suck up to.

      A lying scumbag that has not had one honest post in 15 years.

    548. jason says:

      when most conservatives took a principled decision and turned away from woke sports in 2020 that advocating against all the things you claim to support, you instead helped these wokesters raise more money and give them a bully pulpit by following their sports.”

      I think that is a little harsh.

      Maybe he just has a remarkable tolerance for wokeism. He is willing to be lectured for hours on race relations and white privilege by self entitled millionaire players, coaches and owners and is willing to be bombarded for hours with woke messages in the ads, end zones, field of play, etc.

      He can listen for hours to the Communist Pope’s lectures on how money is the root of all evil and everyone except the Catholic Church should give everything they own to the poor and that God wants the world’s economy to grind to a halt in the name of climate change.

      If you think about it, this is really a gift Bitter has. Most people don’t have the stomach for it.

    549. Tina says:

      Catturd ™
      @catturd2
      ·
      10h
      Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, or any of the sellout RINOs who think they have a prayer in the 2024 presidential primary are delusional.

    550. Phil says:

      Tina, that Reuter’s Poll showing Joe at 36% is with a sample of D+6. The exits had it at a D+1 electorate in 2020.

      D+6?

      In their dreams.

    551. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzz. I just watch the games. If athletes wanted to tell me how great it is to be left-handed, it would not make me left-handed.

      I don’t go to Mass in the Vatican so I don’t hear Papal lectures. Not sure if Jason ever went to a mass but he clearly has not been in decades.

      Maybe Principled Conservative Tgca can tell us again how Romney is a racist and spout his Occupy Wall Street talking points.

    552. Tina says:

      Phil, he is probably in the low 30s. The economy is in the sheots and gas and inflation are srill quite high.

      Consumer confidence is worse than the bush 43 recession.

    553. Bitterlaw says:

      Did Catturd really need to trademark that handle? Not sure anybody was going to steal it.

    554. Bitterlaw says:

      Paying to distribute news stories? Seems like a great way to make news outlets cater even more to Big Tech to get stories picked up.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11029899/Penny-Mordaunt-vows-make-tech-giants-pay-use-news-wins-Tory-leadership-race.html

    555. Tgca says:

      558

      Bitter trying to deflect the criticism of his support of wokeism and a communist Pope by making old claims.

      I think Romney is totally out of touch with the AA community. As I expressed, many AA think Romney is racist in their view. That was the point I made.

      The majority of the leftists including many AA think the GOP is racist. You can’t change how people view you whether it’s true or not.

      How others feel about the GOP doesn’t change that you help support and prop up leftists wokesters and communists.

      You might as well just contribute money to their causes since you already help generate the revenue streams that allow them to push wokeism.

      Touché.

    556. NYCmike says:

      “Just as I noted over the last few days, Jason fraud and the gang are going to be against DeSantis. They aren’t going to openly attack him right now. They’re just going to raise questions about him and try and convince everyone Trump’s just a safer bet.”

      -Not one Trump voter here will be against DeSantis if he wins the primary, especially not in any way the manner in which you were against him in 2018.

      You made baseless accusations against DeSantis in 2018 due to your irrational Trump hatred.

      Biden is your guy.

    557. Bitterlaw says:

      Bitter trying to deflect the criticism of his support of wokeism and a communist Pope by making old claims.

      Hit a nerve, clown? Those “old claims” were posted within the past few months by Tgca. His Occupy Wall Street attack on landlords was only a few weeks ago,

      Not sure how I support the Pope when I did not elect him and can’t vote for him. I do believe the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ and that Christ died for my sins. Sue me. Then GFY.

    558. NYCmike says:

      “He has TDS worse than she does, if that is possible.”

      -jason,

      I don’t see where your make this leap from what EML has said about Trump. You really are foolish to put him anywhere near the category of a sicko like Robbie.

      Robbie, like “CG”, is glad that Biden beat Trump, and we now have the policies that we have. Those 2 don’t care, as long as Trump lost. Sick.

      EML is nowhere near such depths of despicable behavior.

    559. NYCmike says:

      “I think Romney is totally out of touch with the AA community. As I expressed, many AA think Romney is racist in their view. That was the point I made.”

      -Romney is just a blithering blathering idiot with more money than he knows what to do with.

      “Who let the dawgs out!” was one of the cringiest moments in any campaign I have ever seen. To think that I thought more highly of him throughout that campaign, and then to watch him become the D.C. toad he is today…..shameful!

    560. Bitterlaw says:

      Not sure why this Trump/DeSantis fight even broke out. Both are infinitely superior to Biden. No need to pick one or the other right now.

    561. Tgca says:

      564

      No! I think Jadon hit a nerve with you and you tried to deflect your support of wokesters and communists towards me.

      I explained my rationale what is yours for supporting wokesters and communists?

      Touché

    562. Bitterlaw says:

      I like watching sports. How do I support the Pope?

      Why does a conservative hate landlords and support rent controls?

    563. Tgca says:

      566. NYC

      I think racism comes in degrees. When I lived in San Francisco roughly half my hanging buddies, including some I dated were Asians at one point. They often felt whites were racists towards Asians but not to the degree White people believe. They thought it was more subtle and about white entitlement. I learned not to debate on this with them because I got the standard “you’re white and don’t understand it or see it.”

      I also saw different groups of my Asian friends have these same beliefs to other Asian groups.

      Same thing with two of my close AA friends, one during college and one when I 1st moved to San Francisco. Again, they routinely felt whites were subtly racist and did not see how they treated and viewed AA. Funny since one of these AA routinely dated white guys.

      …and as anyone that has grown up in a working class Latino or AA community knows, their views of whites are very different than whites think their views should be.

      It’s complicated living in our melting pot here in the US.

      Racism or the view of it by others is rampant in our society. Nearly every group feels others groups are racist against them at one level or another.

      I believe there is great differences among these groups and there is some validity but I do not believe most people are blatant hateful racists.

      I’ve been accused over the years of having views that others may not appreciate. I’ve seen similar views here by HHR posters but that’s par for the course living in the melting pot we live in.

    564. NYCmike says:

      “NYC – what is Greenpoint like? Sad story.”

      -Greenpoint has undergone a YUGE transformation, but like every other neighborhood in the city, you once again need to be aware of your surroundings and take precautions. Where this happened, 4 years ago I would frequent at night because we had night-time deliveries around there, and there would be women walking alone to and from subway stations with no worries. Now, I’m glad we don’t have that business anymore, as these random attacks just keep growing in number. The Democrats taking over Gracie Mansion have ruined what Rudy G fixed!

    565. Tgca says:

      570

      I don’t hate landlords. I was one myself. But I don’t believe in evicting people and uprooting their lives by taking advantage of rampant inflation.

      You show how out of touch you are and lacking of compassion for those that struggle financially because you own a home in an elitist white town.

      How would you like if the bank decided to raise the interest rate on your home mortgage to 20%+ where you could not afford it any longer and forced you to sell your home and move, just because they could raise the rates?

      You think that’s good for society? I bet you’d be whining like a little Bish if it happened to you.

      Again, you’re deflecting about supporting wokeism and communists.

      Explain to us why you can’t wait to move back to Philly among radical leftists before you suggest others have lefty radical views, or why you support wokesters financially, or communist leaders?

      Touché.

    566. NYCmike says:

      Also should add – it seems as if the city still holds sway over younger adults getting their freedom. NYC, despite many families moving out, is seeing an influx of 20-30-somethings. I know I am much more risk-averse now, have no desire to go with my wife into certain areas where I need to be on guard. If I was 25 again, it probably wouldn’t bother me as much.

      It really sucks the “leaders” in NYC are allowining this to happen. The only hope is that the large real-estate developers spent so much money that they will insist on the police cracking down eventually………we shall see what happens.

      Personally, seeing what I could purchase in a small town somewhere else, the wife and I will probably not stay around more than 5-10 years. I’ll let some other family enjoy living right on top of their neighbors.

    567. NYCmike says:

      “Why does a conservative hate landlords and support rent controls?”

      -I believe this comment stems from a discussion about south Florida, and the fact that many of the working class peoples newly open to voting Republican (mainly thanks to Trump, and also Rick Scott and Desantis) are being priced out.

      While I didn’t agree with Tgca’s solutions, I do think he is correct in saying that the Republican party must be forward thinking in terms of development ideas, so that there is an ample supply of housing for all strata of society. None of us want to give the Democrats an issue on which to claw back those same working-class voters.

    568. Tgca says:

      575. NYC

      My solution was NOT rent control. I clearly stated I was against that. It was manufactured by Bitter. I can prove that via my posts.

      I think the GOP will come across as cold and uncaring and destroy any goodwill they’ve built with the working class under Trump if they ignore the REAL concerns of the working class just like the Dems did historically.

      DeSantis in FL is very vulnerable here because this has hit FL the hardest in what used to be a working class area. I know a number working class people feeling the pain here. I feel bad for them. I can afford $3,500 month for a townhome in a working class neighborhood that went for under $2,000 15 months ago but most can’t and I feel for them.

      I know of one acquaintance who is a shift supervisor probably making like $75K annually now staying with friends because he recently got out of a relationship but can’t find an affordable place to live in a decent neighborhood.

      DeSantis and team here have done NOTHING but play politics on this and blame Biden but that won’t cut it if it continues and homelessness and rents spikes dramatically in FL. We’ve had a 30% average increase here in a year, by far the highest in the country.

      All new housing built here is not affordable to the working class and being taken up by out of towners or high income people.

      What will DeSantis do to help thousands that could be displaced? Blame Biden and offer no assistance? Regardless of the cause of the problem, the state needs to be there as a safety net for the truly needy.

      We lucky ones should have compassion for those feeling financial strife and more importantly, fear for where they will end up if they can no longer afford yo live in a decent area.

      That was my point that the woke communist supporter who lives in an elitist town tries to spin into false rent control argument because he holds a grudge.

    569. Tgca says:

      Trump humiliates Dem-lite MD GOP Gubbernor “Mr. Potato Head” Hogan in battle of endorsements.

      Trump pick for Hogan’s replacement bests Hogan’s chosen successor pick by over 15 points, as reported.

      Hogan mocked Trump’s endorsement originally with:

      Personally, I’d prefer endorsements from people who didn’t lose Maryland by 33 points.

      Sweet humiliation of RINO Hogan.

      This now puts Trump’s endorsements win at 94% accuracy with a 147 to 10 winning streak.

      Lizzie to come in and say it’s not a Trump win after win because Trump did not get 6% of the endorsement wins.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/19/trump-endorsed-dan-cox-smokes-hogans-candidate-blowout-primary/

    570. EML says:

      Great, Trump cost Republicans a governorship. Cox has 0 chance of winning. At least Schulz would’ve given us a shot. Trump’s win is a loss for everybody else. What a loser.

    571. EML says:

      Always Wrong once again talking nonsense about a subject he knows nothing about. He knows absolutely nothing about anything outside of his liberal bubble in Fort Lauderdale.

      Nearly every county in the country saw a double digit increase in housing prices during 2021 (source: realtor.com). There is absolutely nothing special or unique about south florida. And it is hardly the worst as far as home prices go.

      High housing costs is a Democratic problem. Of the 200 counties with the highest median home prices, 150 of them (75%) are in counties that Biden won. And of the 50 counties that Trump won, the vast majority are rural counties out west where there are a lot of vacation homes. If you don’t like high housing prices, there’s an easy solution. Move. Don’t live in a Democratic county.

      In his zeal to attack our next president, Always Wrong has once again jumped into a subject he knows nothing about and where I have the superior knowledge. If Always Wrong did know something about housing prices, then he’d be able to tell the truth (oh, I forgot, he is unable to tell the truth) and mention that the housing bubble is bursting as we speak, prices are already dropping dramatically, and will continue to drop as mortgage prices increase to combat Bidenflation.

      Gov. DeSantis did exactly the right thing. The market is correcting itself. No heavy-handed government intervention needed. Next up: Always Wrong to blame Gov. DeSantis for dropping home prices.

      Always Wrong, never in doubt.

    572. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca loves to try to be clever. “Communist supporter” is his new term for practicing Catholic.

    573. jason says:

      This now puts Trump’s endorsements win at 94% accuracy with a 147 to 10 winning streak.

      Lizzie to come in and say it’s not a Trump win after win because Trump did not get 6% of the endorsement wins.”

      Heh, you are prescient.

      “Great, Trump cost Republicans a governorship. Cox has 0 chance of winning. At least Schulz would’ve given us a shot.”

      Funny how Trump is “very influential” when it fits TDS Moron’s narrative, but he has absolutely no influence and no following when it doesn’t.

      Hogan was a Republican governor. This was a Republican primary. If Hogan was so great, why wouldn’t Rs support his endorsed candidate.

      Answer: Hogan when out of his way to tout his Never Trumper and TDS idiocies for years. THAT is why his candidate didn’t win.

      And btw, without Trump’s support, Schultz would have no shot.

    574. Phil says:

      Republicans have no shot at statewide office in Maryland. I’m shocked. Shocked I say. Guess what? They have no shot in Massachusetts either. So what.

    575. jason says:

      Btw, I agree that Tgca’s attacks on DeSantis on housing are bogus.

      Property owners should be allowed to charge market prices for their properties. Rents should be determined by the market, not by politicians.

      Rent control and other artificial interventions don’t solve any “high rent” issues, all they do is limit availability of housing by making it less attractive to invest in the housing market.

      If the “working class” can’t afford housing in one location, they will have to move to where it is more affordable.

      That is not being “displaced”. “Displaced” is what Tgca’s hero and icon Putin is doing in the Ukraine.

      Let capitalism and the market rule the housing market.

    576. jason says:

      Communist supporter” is his new term for practicing Catholic.”

      Zzzzz…..

      Bitter thinks being a practicing Catholic means you have to follow the Pope’s Marxist philosophy.

      Like I said, he has a cast iron stomach for wokeism.

    577. jason says:

      Hogan reaped what he sowed.

      No whining now.

    578. EML says:

      Ron DeSantis: Trump without the crazy

      https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/ron-desantis/

    579. Phil says:

      Hogan another useful idiot Never Trumper who likes to mutter Democratic talking points. He’ll be gone soon. Good riddance.

    580. jason says:

      Yep, Hogan was another media whore who wanted to be popular at CNN and MSNBC like Romney, another “go to” when the MSM wanted a ‘Republican” to attack Trump.

      Maybe he can get a gig on CNN.

    581. jason says:

      Anyone know anything about Neil Parrot who won the R primary in the 6th District in MD?

      He defeated a guy endorsed by Trump, Hogan and Kevin McCarthy, a reporter for the Washington Beacon named Foldi.

    582. jason says:

      Foldi was the favorite on Predictit, some people got too impressed by the endorsements and lost their asses.

    583. jason says:

      Ron DeSantis: Trump without the crazy”

      The TDS morons are sooooo confused.

      I thought Trump was the Antichrist.

      But at least they admit the “crazy” part, which has no bearing on how he actually governs, is what motivates their hatred and TDS.

    584. EML says:

      The crazy is what puts what should be a slam dunk election into jeopardy.

    585. Bitterlaw says:

      How have I followed the Pope’s philosophy? Jason should provide proof or STFU.

    586. Tina says:

      So the Maryland whale lost to trump

      I am sure he will do his part to help the drat.

    587. Tina says:

      Hogan is an Asehole. He would tell pence that the Covid task force was doing well, then run to Cn and n and complain.

    588. Robbie says:

      Jonathan Swan
      @jonathanvswan
      Per GOP rep. in room – Rep. Chip Roy stood up in this morning’s RSC meeting with Pence and said “I just want to say thank you for defending our Constitution. I’m happy to shout it from Mar-A-Lago to Bedminster… but I just want you to know how grateful we are”

      – I guess Jason fraud will have to start calling Chip Roy a scumbag.

    589. Bitterlaw says:

      I will make it simple for my A-hole friend. When I attend Mass, am I supporting the Pope’s political statements?

    590. jason says:

      Where wokeism is born and then spreads to elected office, the media and the corporate world

      https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=19847

    591. jason says:

      I guess Jason fraud will have to start calling Chip Roy a scumbag.”

      Nah, I will just continue to call YOU an amoral scumbag.

      I have always said Pence did the right thing.

      Where he was wrong was in not being more vocal in denouncing voter fraud since he himself as VP was also a victim.

      GFY.

    592. Robbie says:

      Since the current pope was a topic of discussion in this forum over the last day (I refuse to even mention his name), let me offer my views on the man who currently wears the white cassock.

      History shows the Catholic Church as has had plenty of bad popes. The Borgia popes were personally corrupt. Still, they never tried to alter Church teaching. The Church has even had popes who were heretics. Pope John XXII comes to mind. The Church even had to endure the Arian heresy.

      What makes the current occupant of the Vatican so awful, though, is he’s both a rotten person and a heretic. That’s never happened before. He’s a vindictive, nasty old man who has used his power to persecute his perceived enemies. For more than nine years, he has set about to wreck, ruin, and destroy the only parts of the Church that are growing, the Latin Mass priestly orders and the Churches that offer the Latin Mass.

      On the theological side, this pope is a mess. But then again, aren’t all Jesuits? He’s used proxies like the recently deceased atheist Italian writer Scalfari to push his claims the Church needs to update its teachings on sexual morality like gay marriage, divorce, and abortion. Yet when questioned on it, the Vatican says Scalfari took no notes so he couldn’t be trusted. Yet, this pope gave multiple interviews to the man and the views have energized the dying liberal branch of the Church.

      However, don’t expect things to improve when the next pope is elected (assuming this one ever dies). The current pope has stacked the College of Cardinals with likeminded liberals in a way no previous pope has. Strong conservatives elevated to lead important dioceses around the world by Benedict XVI have been denied red hats by the current pope simply because they are conservative. Venice, a city that produced three popes in the 20th Century has seen its patriarch Archbishop denied a red hat simply because the current pope thinks he’s too conservative.

      Benedict XVI’s abdication was a terrible disaster and the Church is being punished because of it. The 1970’s Vatican II liberals were about to die off, but the abdication opened the door for them to become dominant again. Ratzinger’s decision will take 50 years to overcome.

    593. jason says:

      ow have I followed the Pope’s philosophy? Jason should provide proof or STFU.”

      You are accepting of it by pretending that only what the Pope says about “church doctrine” is relevant.

      “When I attend Mass, am I supporting the Pope’s political statements?”

      No. You only support the Pope’s political statements by sticking your head in the sand and pretending they are irrelevant.

    594. Gordon Allen says:

      Existing home sales plummeting, but prices still rising!!. This is a supply problem, not completely unrelated to the general supply chain disaster wrought by Biden.
      In Florida the tidal wave of new residents can’t be matched by an equivalent supply of new homes and apartments; not for lack of trying over here as I see non stop building STARTS. It seems getting workers and materials in a sufficient and timely matter is slowing things down so demand can’t be met.

    595. jason says:

      On the theological side, this pope is a mess. But then again, aren’t all Jesuits?”

      Amoral Scumbag hates Jesuits?

      Are they worse than Trump?

    596. SoHope says:

      Donald Trump is a hammer looking for a nail. Sometimes he hits a nail and it’s extremely satisfying but sometimes he hits a baby and it isn’t. Sometimes in front of the camera he mocks a reporter with palsy. Sometimes he takes the long way around to condemn the KKK. Sometimes he plays into the media’s hand because his brain is significantly slower than his mouth. Sure, I like it that he fights. I would just like it better if he could fight with a little more common sense and targeting appropriate targets and fighting in a more sustainable way (aka a way that doesn’t turn the electorate against you and you lose reelection to a houseplant). DeSantis is a hammer than finds the nail and avoids the babies.

    597. Phil says:

      DeSantis is a hammer that finds the nail and avoids the babies.

      I can’t argue with that.

      DeSantis is good. Real good.

    598. Bitterlaw says:

      I never said the Pope’s political statements are irrelevant. He is a political figure as well as a religious leader. Leftists love his political statements and ignore or condemn his religious statements. Since I strongly disagree with his political statements, they have no relevance to my faith.

    599. Robbie says:

      The Jesuit order became so liberal and so heretical in the 1970’s and early 1980’s that Pope John Paul II threatened to suppress the order in 1983. The Jesuits had been disbanded once before by a pope several centuries ago. Sadly, John Paul II backed down and did almost nothing to them. The leading liberal Cardinal of the 1980’s and 1990’s, Jesuit Carlo Martini, was a friend of John Paul II and he convinced him to spare the Jesuits.

      Now, the Jesuits are the go-to interview in America for all things Catholic Church. Jesuit James Martin appears on CNN and MSNBC (often referred to as Pastor Jimmy Martin by critics). He is a gay priest who promotes gay marriage and other heresies. He was repeatedly criticized by the Vatican during the reign of Benedict XVI, but he has been rehabilitated by the current pope and was nearly awarded a red hat recently. Apparently, several Cardinals stepped in and stopped that from happening noting it would turn the College into a joke.

    600. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      July 20, 2022 at 11:31 am
      DeSantis is a hammer that finds the nail and avoids the babies.

      I can’t argue with that.

      DeSantis is good. Real good.

      – He’s the sharpest Republican politician since Reagan and the sharpest politician overall since Bill Clinton.

    601. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 20, 2022 at 11:37 am
      I never said the Pope’s political statements are irrelevant. He is a political figure as well as a religious leader. Leftists love his political statements and ignore or condemn his religious statements. Since I strongly disagree with his political statements, they have no relevance to my faith.

      – But he’s working to change the faith. His arrogance is so great that he thinks he can change doctrine even though no pope can do that.

    602. Tina says:

      Russian hoaxer is crushed.

      Josh Gerstein
      @joshgerstein
      · 13m
      Prosecution has finished questioning House #J6 counsel Kristin Amerling and cross-examination by Bannon’s lawyers just began. Def atty Evan Corcoran begins by asking her to confirm this case doesn’t involve any claim that Bannon took part in events of 1/6/21.

    603. Phil says:

      …..and like Trump, DeSantis doesn’t back down like your usual establishment Republican. He doesn’t apologize to the MSM for his positions. He can be Trump without the baggage. He just needs to keep going in the direction he is going, and stay out of the Bush, Republican establishment lane. He’s doing fine. Love the fact that he has the support of guys like Rogan and Musk. He doesn’t go out of his way to unnecessarily alienate individuals. Smart, tough. POTENTIALLY, Democrat’s worst nightmare. Needs to continue to work on wooing the working class ala Trump.

    604. jason says:

      I give DeSantis credit for this answer. Trump could not have said it better.

      “BREAKING: @RonDeSantisFL
      responds to Gavin Newsom’s comments calling him a “bully” in an exclusive interview with @FLVoiceNews

      “This is a guy [Newsom] that locked people down, that kept kids out of school”

    605. Robbie says:

      One last thought on the heretical pope who now leads the Catholic Church.

      There are still some conservatives left in the College of Cardinals. There aren’t many, but, as of today, they are large enough as a group to prevent a candidate from getting two third of the vote needed to be elected.

      Depending on how a future Conclave goes, there is one conservative who could be elected even in a College dominated by the heretic’s picks. That’s the Hungarian Peter Erdo.

      Erdo will probably be the consensus pick of the conservatives and have the backing of prominent Cardinals like the American Raymond Burke and the African Robert Sarah.

      If there is a Conclave soon and the pick is anyone other than Erdo, almost certainly the Church has elected someone comparable to Bernie Sanders.

    606. jason says:

      Donald Trump is a hammer looking for a nail. Sometimes he hits a nail and it’s extremely satisfying but sometimes he hits a baby and it isn’t. Sometimes in front of the camera he mocks a reporter with palsy. Sometimes he takes the long way around to condemn the KKK. Sometimes he plays into the media’s hand because his brain is significantly slower than his mouth. Sure, I like it that he fights. I would just like it better if he could fight with a little more common sense and targeting appropriate targets and fighting in a more sustainable way (aka a way that doesn’t turn the electorate against you and you lose reelection to a houseplant). DeSantis is a hammer than finds the nail and avoids the babies.”

      SoHope’s post is not an unfair analysis.

      The only problem with this narrative is that it gives too much weight to the “mean tweet” theory that Never Trumpers love to dismiss Trump’s much more important policies and accomplishments.

      “Slow to condemn the KKK”? Zzzz. Sounds like the “very fine people” BS that he never said.

      How do we weigh “mocking a reporter with palsy” against, for example, 3 conservative SC justices, lower taxes, deregulation and energy independence?

      I just don’t see why we should give the same weight to Trump’s blowhard mannerisms and narcissistic personality as we do to his actual governance, sorry.

    607. jason says:

      Amoral Scumbag knows much more about the inner workings and current Vatican situation than I do, so I will take his word that the pope is “heretical”.

      All I know is the Pope is a rabid Marxist who spends more time trying to implement Marxism than he does advancing Catholicism.

      As such, any Catholic that accepts his rhetoric under the guise that it is “not church doctrine” is in fact contributing to the demise of the Catholic Church unless you actually think Marxism is compatible with Catholicism, which makes you a moron since the first thing Marxists do when they get into power is to try to eliminate religion.

    608. Tina says:

      The R House Judiciary Committee just hit Swallowhole hard. Excellent response.

      https://twitter.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1549600254898716673?cxt=HHwWgoC-kZjOpIErAAAA

    609. jason says:

      I never said the Pope’s political statements are irrelevant. He is a political figure as well as a religious leader. Leftists love his political statements and ignore or condemn his religious statements. Since I strongly disagree with his political statements, they have no relevance to my faith.”

      Zzzzzz…what a crock of crap.

      We are back “to no relevance to my faith”, i.e. it doesn’t matter what the Pope says.

      And the reference to “Leftists love his political statements and ignore or condemn his religious statements” is even more of a crock of crap because of the usual fake equivalency.

      The fact is the MSM and the billions around the world that listen to the Pope’s political statements don’t give a sh-t about his religious statement. Probably the ratio of people who care about his political statements to religious statements is probably like 1000-1.

    610. Gordon Allen says:

      “606” RELATED not UNRELATED. I hate auto correct.
      Housing and rental prices ARE related to generic Biden caused supply chain issues,certainly in Florida.

    611. Bitterlaw says:

      Since I do not accept the Pope’s political rhetoric, Jason and I should have no further issues on this topic.

      Go and sin no more.

    612. Bitterlaw says:

      The Pope’s anti-capitalist statement have nothing to do with the Eucharist or the resurrection of Jesus.

    613. Tina says:

      The Maryland Whale has indicated that he will. Ot vote for Foldi.

      He is melting down on Twitter.

      Blaming Trump.

    614. Robbie says:

      Decision Desk HQ
      @DecisionDeskHQ
      DDHQ is excited to announce the release of our 2022 U.S. House and Senate Forecast Model.

      We open with a 54.3% chance of Democrats holding the Senate, while Republicans have an 88.0% chance of securing a majority in the House of Representatives.

      – A reverse of 2018. Donnie Trump and the crappy candidates he’s saddled the party with is the gift that keeps on giving to Democrats.

    615. Tina says:

      Go see a shrink, lard arse. You blew the rsce yesterday.

      Btw, why did you buy all of those Covid test kits from South Korea that did not work?

      Larry Hogan
      @LarryHogan
      Trump lost Republicans the White House, the House, and the Senate. He’s selfishly colluded with national Democrats to cost us a Governor’s seat in Maryland where I ran 45 points ahead of him.

      He’s fighting for his ego. We’re fighting to win, and the fight goes on.
      7:43 AM · Jul 20, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

    616. Tina says:

      teractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
      2m
      Biden’s approval rating reaches a NEW LOW — 36% – NPR/Marist poll

      Biden Job Approval
      Approve 36% (-4)
      Disapprove 57% (+4)

      Independents
      Approve 28%
      Disapprove 66%

      (+- from June)

      N=1,160 A / D31/R26/I42 / 07/11-17
      https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-national-poll-president-joe-biden-approval-rating-july-2022/

    617. Tina says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
      5h
      2024 Republican Primary poll:

      Donald Trump – 53%
      Ron DeSantis – 23%
      Mike Pence – 7%
      Ted Cruz – 3%
      Nikki Haley – 2%
      Mitt Romney – 2%
      Liz Cheney – 2%

      Politico / Morning Consult / 07/15-17
      https://morningconsult.com/2022/07/20/biden-trump-rematch-for-2024-election/

    618. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 20, 2022 at 12:11 pm
      All I know is the Pope is a rabid Marxist who spends more time trying to implement Marxism than he does advancing Catholicism.

      – You’re correct on this and it’s where Bitter gets it wrong. The pope is a South American socialist and those beliefs are guiding his attempts to refocus the Church in a very liberal direction. So yes his Marxist views do matter because they are guiding his supposed moral views.

      His favorite Cardinal in America, the scummy Blase Cupich of Chicago, let the cat out of the bag in 2018 when he said the pope didn’t have time for certain controversies because he was more concerned with getting the Church to fight climate change and work for the rights of migrants.

      For nearly 2000 years, the goal of the Catholic Church was to save souls. This pope doesn’t mention that. Instead, he views the Church as little more than a spiritual NGO and priests as little more than celibate social workers (assuming he believes they should be celibate).

      The Church of the popes who took the name Pius in the first half of the 20th century has almost certainly been lost to the history books.

    619. Phil says:

      So Democrats have a 12% chance of holding the House?

      No they don’t.

    620. Tina says:

      Tyler Bowyer ??
      @tylerbowyer
      · 1h
      The Republican Party has officially rebuked and censured Speaker Rusty Bowers and he is no longer a Republican in good standing due to his terrible voting record, unwillingness to work with Republicans and general malfeasance.

      Voters should be totally aware of this.

    621. Phil says:

      Biden is at 36 in a Marist Poll? LOL He can’t even get out of the mid 30s in poll that consistently and traditionally over inflates Democratic numbers. Really? That’s really bad.

      I can tell you with 100% certainty that the electorate won’t be D+5 in the midterms. Hell, it was only D+1 in the last presidential year.

    622. Wobbles says:

      Biden is at 36 in a Marist Poll?

      I am not worried.

      45 would be fatal for a R, but because of the rightwing bias of all these polls, I won’t start worrying until it is under 25.

    623. jason says:

      “You’re correct on this and it’s where Bitter gets it wrong.”

      Another sordid attempt to besmirch my reputation by agreeing with me, but it’s been tried before.

      NYC has agreed with me a couple times, and I am still here.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-SwJjkSyw

    624. jason says:

      2024 Republican Primary poll:

      Donald Trump – 53%
      Ron DeSantis – 23%
      Mike Pence – 7%
      Ted Cruz – 3%
      Nikki Haley – 2%
      Mitt Romney – 2%
      Liz Cheney – 2%”

      TDS morons hardest hit.

    625. DW says:

      Biden on the verge of declaring a national emergency over abortion pills, but is silent on the baby formula shortage crisis.

      Biden is evil. His puppet-masters are evil.

    626. DW says:

      When both NBC/Marist and CNN polls cannot get Biden’s job approval anywhere close to 40%, you know he’s in deep trouble.

    627. DW says:

      Biden today: “Every person who is…is…over nine hundre…uh…over nine years in the senate..hm…I mean nine years of age must have access to abortion pills. This is a national health emergency. End of quote. Repeat the line. Acme Telepropmter Company, Chicago, IL. All rights Reserved.”

    628. jason says:

      Donnie Trump and the crappy candidates he’s saddled the party with is the gift that keeps on giving to Democrats.”

      An Amoral Scumbag never changes the M.O.

      Every two years he will attack all Rs actually on the ballot every day several times until election day.

      If they win, he will say they won despite being horrible candidates. If they lose, he will say I told you so and blame Trump or somebody else.

      During the whole time, he will never say a word against the Dem candidates.

      History repeats itself, but hopefully there is nobody here that actually believes this scumbag troll anymore.

    629. jason says:

      Russia to annex occupied Kherson, Zaporizhia, Donetsk, and Luhansk oblasts”

      I am sure the Putin appeasers and sycophants will be applauding while they continue to pretend that Russia is not interested in territorial expansion.

    630. Tina says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      · 7m
      ? 56 BATTLEGROUND DISTRICTS POLL BY Fabrizio Ward (R) & Impact Research (D)

      GEN BALLOT
      Republicans 46% (+4)
      Democrats 42%

      Biden Job Approval:
      Approve 37%
      Disapprove 61%

      Trump Job Approval
      Approve 50%
      Disapprove 49%

      N=2,352 LV / 07/05/12 / AARP
      https://press.aarp.org/2022-7-20-New-AARP-Poll-of-6-Most-Competitive-Congressional-Districts-Shows-Tight-Race-for-Control-of-Congress-Voters-Focused-on-Pocketbook-Issues

    631. chicon says:

      Jason posted…

      2024 Republican Primary poll:

      Donald Trump – 53%
      Ron DeSantis – 23%
      Mike Pence – 7%
      Ted Cruz – 3%
      Nikki Haley – 2%
      Mitt Romney – 2%
      Liz Cheney – 2%”

      TDS morons hardest hit.

      At the risk of getting in the middle of a current fight… The important thing about this poll is that a large number of those indicating support for Trump or Desantis would have the other as a 2nd choice. As has been said here often, Desantis is viewed by many as “Trump without the baggage”. What this means is the 76% of those polled favor Trumpist policies. It means that the realignment of the Republican party is successful and ongoing. This is why the TDS crowd will eventually turn on Desantis – they want what Trump and Desantis represent OUT of the party, and once Trump is out Desantis will be the target.

    632. Gordon Allen says:

      AARP ( aka Democrat poll) w 4 point Generic Congressional lead in July?
      Take it in a flash.

    633. Gordon Allen says:

      I think those are territories Russian troops already control,or largely do today.
      That’s why some cease fire proposal is likely the end game most expect.
      They obviously don’t expect a change of possession. In other words
      they probably don’t think Ukraine is likely to get 1000 of our remaining 980 M777 howitzers

    634. Tina says:

      Giancarlo Sopo
      @GiancarloSopo
      ·
      5m
      ?NEW POLL?

      A stunning new Quinnipiac poll shows that Joe Biden’s approval rating among Hispanics is just 19% — that is 51 points underwater and 10 points lower than it is among Whites.

      I guess “unique as tacos” and “Latinx”aren’t working.

    635. EML says:

      I might have to parse through that AARP poll when I have time, because the numbers look brutal. They polled the “56 most competitive congressional districts” and found Rs ahead on the GCB by 4. 49 of those districts were won by Biden vs just 7 by Trump. A number of those Biden districts went to him by double digits. Republicans now appear to be ahead in almost exclusively Biden territory.

    636. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Ukrainians are already regaining territory in the Kherson region. It is very possible they go on the offensive there once they have more weaponry. There is no support in the Ukraine for a cease fire at this point.

    637. Tina says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
      17m
      NEW:
      @QuinnipiacPoll

      Biden Job Approval
      Approve 31%
      Disapprove 60%

      Independents
      Approve 23%
      Disapprove 67%

      Hispanics
      Approve 19%
      Disapprove 70%

      N=1,523 A / 07/14-18

    638. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      648. “May 24 (Reuters) – Eighty-two percent of Ukrainians believe that Ukraine should not sign away any of its territories as part of a peace deal with Russia under any circumstances, according to a new survey by one of the country’s top pollsters. In the poll conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology between May 13-18 and released on Tuesday, 82% of respondents said they did not support territorial concessions, even if it prolonged the war and increased the threat to Ukraine’s independence.”

    639. DW says:

      CNN, NBC/Marist, and Quinnipiac are now all right-wing pollsters apparently.

    640. EML says:

      My calculations for that AARP poll is that the average district went for Biden by 5.8 points, so a 4 point R lead in the generic ballot translates to a 10 point swing to Republicans.

    641. Bitterlaw says:

      If Russia annexes that territory, it is a Russian victory and a Ukrainian defeat. A costly victory is still a victory.

    642. Phil says:

      CNN, NBC/Marist and Quinnipiac are now all right wing pollsters apparently.

      …along with the Trump “huckster” Baris and “joke pollster”Rasmussen.

    643. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      653. Russia can try and annex the territory. The key is the NATO countries should not recognize it and the Ukrainians will continue to fight to take it back.

    644. Gordon Allen says:

      Nobody ceded Crimea in 2014.Who controls it now?
      What counts is physical control.By their own admission the Ukrainians can’t regain the lost territory without impossibly high arms transfers.
      You assume the Cease Fire

    645. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      653. There are a lot of indications the Ukrainians may be about to go on the offensive in the Kherson region. The long-range weaponry that NATO is supplying the Ukraine is beginning to make a difference:

      “Ministry of Defence
      @DefenceHQ 14h
      United Kingdom government organization

      On 19 July 2022, the authorities in Russian-occupied Kherson reported that the Antonovskiy Bridge over the Dnieper River had been struck by Ukrainian forces. Social media posts showed apparent battle damage to the bridge’

      It is highly likely that the bridge remains usable – but it is a key vulnerability for Russian Forces.

      It is one of only two road crossing points over the Dnieper by which Russia can supply or withdraw its forces in the territory it has occupied west of the river.

      This area includes the city of Kherson, which is politically and symbolically important for Russia. The lower reaches of the Dnieper present a natural barrier, with the waterway typically around 1000m wide.”

    646. Tgca says:

      As a devout Catholic, I am appalled at this Pope. Not all Popes are good people either when you look at history. This Pope pushes communism and tried to sweep raping children under the rug.

      He disgusts me and I hope he leaves office soon, whether by retirement or to meet his maker. By far the worst Pope in my life time.

      I no longer go to church under this Pope. I practice my faith at home.

    647. Gordon Allen says:

      Will come from Ukraine. I think it might come from Russia. Once they’re sitting on the land they want,why not stop?
      Ukraine has NO potential to regain the lost territory, any more than Russia did,or has now,to occupy all Ukra

    648. Gordon Allen says:

      UKraine.
      Eventually reality on the ground will determine the result,not posturing.
      If the sanctions had worked time might not favor Putin; there is unfortunately no sign yet they have. Thank China,India,Iran etc.

    649. Gordon Allen says:

      SDC. NOBODY in the West recognized Soviet control of the Baltic States.
      But the Soviets annexation stood for 51 years.
      That’s posturing, and Putin couldn’t give a rats behind about it

    650. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #649 & 654- Tina and Phil
      The Quinn Poll is not what it seems. In June, the PID in the Quinn Poll was R+1. In today’s release it is D+5; so a six point movement toward the Dems.
      That is why the CGB went from R+5 in June to D+1 in July although the Indies were +8 to the GOP in July from R+2 in June.

      Just think how much lower Biden’s approval rating would be from today’s 31% if the PID was R+1.

    651. Tina says:

      Sheeple,they always seem to play those games.

      And if they want to “improve” his number, they then poll adults.

    652. jason says:

      Neville Allen, Putin’s little b-tch is always ready to suurender Ukraine and its territory.

    653. jason says:

      At the risk of getting in the middle of a current fight… The important thing about this poll is that a large number of those indicating support for Trump or Desantis would have the other as a 2nd choice. As has been said here often, Desantis is viewed by many as “Trump without the baggage”. What this means is the 76% of those polled favor Trumpist policies. It means that the realignment of the Republican party is successful and ongoing. This is why the TDS crowd will eventually turn on Desantis – they want what Trump and Desantis represent OUT of the party, and once Trump is out Desantis will be the target.”

      I think you have a point. The Never Trumper and TDS morons endlessly parrot MSM lies against Trump. If DeSantis is the nominee, he will be the new “Trump” and the MSM will go after him in the same way. As Amoral Scumbag puts it, he will be a “Trump clone”.

      Are the Never Trumper and TDS morons really going to buck the MSM?

      Not likely.

    654. Robbie says:

      2024 Republican Primary poll:

      Donald Trump – 53%
      Ron DeSantis – 23%
      Mike Pence – 7%
      Ted Cruz – 3%
      Nikki Haley – 2%
      Mitt Romney – 2%
      Liz Cheney – 2%

      – Trump’s around 50% in several polls now. A year ago, he was around 80%. And that’s without any Republican actually campaigning against him. It’s not a good place for a former president with 100% name ID to be.

      Trump may still win the nomination and he may not even get any real competition if DeSantis says no. Still, he’s much weaker than he was a year ago.

      The trendline is really what’s important right now.

    655. chicon says:

      Robbie gets post 666….

    656. jason says:

      BREAKING: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims one of the officers who “arrested” her whispered, “this is MAGA country,” while leading her away from the scene.

      “But I was not afraid to become a political prisoner for the cause,” she told reporters.”

      Damm, AOC was arrested here in Bittersville and I didn’t even hear about it?

    657. Tina says:

      The jebots love the Ccp.

      Kyle Becker
      @kylenabecker
      ·
      55m
      BREAKING: 219 House Democrats vote AGAINST Republican effort to block U.S. oil reserves from being sold to CHINA

    658. Tina says:

      Steve Cortes
      @CortesSteve
      ·
      1h
      Holy freaking tacos!

      New Quinnipiac Poll shows Hispanic approval of Biden at a scant 19%.

      Much lower than other demographic groups.

      #BadHombres have had it with Biden, Inflation, street crime, and open borders

    659. jason says:

      Amoral Scumbag is triggered that his candidates Romney and Cheney are at 2%.

      Of course, not that he would vote for them either.

    660. Tgca says:

      I see Robbie posted under 666

      …just saying.

    661. jason says:

      BREAKING: 219 House Democrats vote AGAINST Republican effort to block U.S. oil reserves from being sold to CHINA”

      I did see over 50 Dems at least voted against ending trade restrictions with Cuba.

    662. jason says:

      The trendline is really what’s important right now.”

      Note that Amoral Scumbag is not worried about the “trendline” when it comes to his man Biden.

    663. Tgca says:

      665

      I’ve said this a number of times before. The libs, MSM, and Big Tech will make DeSantis the new Trump. He is widely hated by the left in FL that people outside don’t see routinely. They will go after him 24/7.

      DeSantis is very similar to Trump in personality only he tones it down for the cameras and doesn’t live 24/7 on Twitter but he does not like to be challenged and is very aggressive so look for major clashes with the other side and gridlock on big issues where votes are close.

      He’s been fortunate having a friendly environment to operate here in FL but that will change if he gets to DC. He will have an opposition party as well as segments of the GOP who will not appreciate his Trump traits and stand against him at times.

      Trump learned the hard way that running a company where you’re the head honcho is different than DC where you have 535 competing politicians plus bureaucratic egos to deal with. DeSantis will learn similarly that DC is not FL if he gets there.

    664. Cash Cow TM says:

      DRUDGE (earlier today)

      “Cops hunt rogue monkey after 18 people injured in two-week spree…”

      Not sure if these are the same monkeys that snatched
      a baby from his father and threw it off the roof to its death.

      ######################################

      The cause is either:
      Trump,
      Republicans in general
      man-made glowbull warming, or
      the fact that people own guns.

    665. jason says:

      Mayra Flores taco ad.

      Amoral Scumbag will be triggered.

      https://twitter.com/mayraflores2022/status/1547730899566964738

    666. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 20, 2022 at 6:36 pm
      The trendline is really what’s important right now.”

      Note that Amoral Scumbag is not worried about the “trendline” when it comes to his man Biden.

      – The trendline for him was bad a year ago. Now, he’s flatlined as in politically dead.

    667. Tina says:

      The trend line for Hillary is great.

      -Jebot

    668. chicon says:

      The trend line for Jeb is rigid and pointing up.

      -Jebot

    669. NYCmike says:

      “He appeared less worried about his GOP opponents in the primary, including Foldi. That’s perhaps for good reason: During the roughly 15 minutes he stood outside a local fire hall — where Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) had stopped by in between votes to energize the crowd — Parrott was interrupted three different times by supporters who predicted that he’d win on Tuesday. One man in a pickup remarked as he drove past: “You got the primary. I’ve already voted for you, by the way.”

      -Parrot had Boebert campaigning for him. Hope he wins.

    670. NYCmike says:

      “Damn. Police shoot unarmed suspect.”

      -Heh.

    671. NYCmike says:

      Robbie seems to know a lot about the Pope and the inner workings of the Vatican.

      I agree with him on just about every thing he said about Francis, Jesuits, and the Church, and his attitude towards the more conservative-minded cardinals.

      He is also the same guy who judges Trump more harshly than just about any other person alive, despite the fact that Trump’s “moral” issues never affected him at all, and despite the fact the people most affected by his actions (his family) still love him and treat him with a lot of respect……….so in a way, Robbie hates Pope Francis mainly because he is very much like Robbie, a vindictive, small man.

    672. Bitterlaw says:

      I have never been to a Latin Mass but I think Catholics who want it should have that option. However, I know some people who are pretty rigid. They walk out of Mass if there is an altar girl rather than an altar boy. One tried to talk me out of marrying my wife because I would go to Hell if I married a Jew. I told him to F off.

    673. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      July 20, 2022 at 10:19 pm
      He is also the same guy who judges Trump more harshly than just about any other person alive, despite the fact that Trump’s “moral” issues never affected him at all, and despite the fact the people most affected by his actions (his family) still love him and treat him with a lot of respect……….so in a way, Robbie hates Pope Francis mainly because he is very much like Robbie, a vindictive, small man.

      – I judged Trump harshly precisely because of his multiple failings and the way they negatively affected the ability of the Republican Party to govern effectively. In his one term, his behavior led to the loss of the House, Senate, and White House. The last person to do that was Hoover. So his moral issues did affect me because they led to Democrat unified governance that has caused runaway inflation, high gas prices, and a liberal Supreme Court appointee.

      I’ll continue to judge Trump harshly and I’ll continue to judge this pathetic pope harshly as well because his governance is negatively affecting the Church, its teachings, its vocations, and the number of people who bother to show up for Mass. Weekly Mass attendance in 2013 was around 25% to 30%. Now, it’s less than 20% because the pope and he deserves nothing but scorn.

    674. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 20, 2022 at 10:28 pm
      I have never been to a Latin Mass but I think Catholics who want it should have that option. However, I know some people who are pretty rigid. They walk out of Mass if there is an altar girl rather than an altar boy.

      – The Church, by its nature, is supposed to be rigid. If you choose to believe in the teachings of Christ, saying they can change is saying Christ, the Son of God, was wrong. If the Church becomes less rigid, it effectively become Protestant. What a Church believes should not be open to debate. Religions aren’t political parties that change over time.

      The Church, under the direction of Paul VI, changed every aspect of itself in the 1960’s. It decided not to be rigid anymore and the people left in droves. In 1960, Gallup polling showed that 75% of American Catholics attended Mass every week. By 1980, after the disastrous aftereffects of Vatican II and the hideous new Mass, American Mass attendance had fallen into the high 30% range.

      Changing the Traditional Latin Liturgy, which had been used basically since the Fourth Century, was the worst of all the decisions Paul VI made. He wanted to make the Mass more like the Protestant communion services because he thought that would bring the Protestants back to the Catholic Church. In reality, it caused Catholics to fall away. The reverent and beautiful TLM was replaced with a banal service that saw guitars, lay people, and girls as altar servers. And, yes, I oppose girl altar servers because only those who can be priests should be allowed on the altar.

      Now, the current pope has set about to suppress the Latin Mass and anyone who supports. He already destroyed one order dedicated to the Latin Mass in 2014 and now he’s looking to suppress Latin Masses said in all parish churches across the world.

      Had the Church remained rigid and told the modern world it was wrong, the world would be a different place. Once the Catholic Church caved, the Protestant faiths did as well. Now, religion has been replaced with spirituality or pseudo religions like climate change.

    675. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      IA-1/IA-2/IA-3/IA-4: Republicans are solid favorites in 3 of Iowa’s 4 congressional districts, while Democrats narrowly lead in the other. The Des Moines Register poll taken by Ann Selzer shows a generic Republican ahead by double digits in IA-1, IA-2 and IA-4, while a generic Democrat is ahead by 3 points in IA-3.

    676. DW says:

      Biden has issued a written response to the recent findings published in a scientific journal, that the entire solar system could be in jeopardy if the orbit of Neptune was altered by as little as 0.1%:

      “I am calling on Congress to commit $500,000,000,000,000.00 to address this most important threat to our survival. And if congress fails to act, I will issue the executive order to make sure this catastrophe doesn’t happen on my watch.”

    677. Bitterlaw says:

      I see that Robbie blames Trump for Biden’s election and subsequent nomination and confirmation of a liberal SCOTUS pick. Robbie is silent on Trump’s conservative Federal judges and 3 conservative SCOTUS Justices.

    678. Bitterlaw says:

      Cardinal Robbie – I expect that you also oppose female Eucharistic ministers. My mom was honored to serve in that role and brought shared prayers and communion with hundreds of sick people.

    679. jason says:

      he Des Moines Register poll taken by Ann Selzer shows a generic Republican ahead by double digits in IA-1, IA-2 and IA-4, while a generic Democrat is ahead by 3 points in IA-3.’

      If there is a wave then all these close races will tend to go one way.

      The Dems are running on abortion, J6 committee, and climate change fear mongering.

      Against them they have Biden, the economy and history.

      We will see what prevails.

    680. jason says:

      Bitter’s mom was a heretic?

      Who knew?

    681. jason says:

      “in a way, Robbie hates Pope Francis mainly because he is very much like Robbie, a vindictive, small man.”

      NYC fires a cruise missile on target.

    682. jason says:

      “Secret Service officials say the wiped messages were part of a prescheduled “reset” of their phones. But House lawmakers have cast doubt on that explanation for the missing messages, which cover critical moments leading up to and through the Jan. 6 insurrection.

      “I smell a rat,” Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., told a reporter Wednesday.

      Was he sitting next to Liz Cheney or was it Adam Schiff…

    683. Gordon Allen says:

      The Female PM candidate in the UK is running as a tax cutting supply sider,
      the opponent a number crunching tighten the belt scrooge.
      Go w the supply sider

    684. Bitterlaw says:

      If Cardinal Robbie only had one match and enough wood to burn one person at the stake, I wonder if he would burn my wife for being a Jew or me for marrying her. He would probably go cheap and just tie us to one stake and hope for the best.

    685. Tgca says:

      698

      There’s enough religious hate and conflict without the need for such public spectacles.

      How much are the front row tickets?

    686. jason says:

      He is right and you are wrong about the Communist Pope however.

    687. jason says:

      The Female PM candidate in the UK is running as a tax cutting supply sider,
      the opponent a number crunching tighten the belt scrooge.
      Go w the supply sider”

      I hear she regularly cheats on her husband.

      That may be a deal breaker for Bitter, so he might have to go with the bean counter.

    688. jason says:

      Very nice, the dogs deserve it.

      I hope when I go, my tireless efforts to divert money from suckers willing to bet against me to the dogs at the York ASPCA will be recognized too.

      The Trump family reportedly has a special request of those who wish to honor the remarkable life and legacy of Ivana Trump as her family and friends lay her to rest on Wednesday in New York City.

      “Funeral guests and others — in lieu of flowers — will be asked to donate to Big Dog Ranch Rescue (bdrr.org) in Florida and to help save the lives of dogs that are in desperate need.

      Lauree Simmons, CEO of Big Dog Ranch Rescue in Loxahatchee Groves, Florida, told Fox News Digital on Tuesday in a phone interview about the need to help dogs that are running out of time — and about the Trump family’s strong and enduring interest in supporting the efforts of this rescue organization.

      According to Fox News, all the Trump children and their respective spouses have maintained an active involvement with Big Dog Ranch Rescue. The rescue’s website has a banner that is a classic photograph of Ivana Trump with her mother and Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka as children. The link to make a donation in her honor is below the photo.

      In a press release announcing the call for donations in place of flowers, Simmons said of Ivana Trump, “Ivana was a survivor. She fled communism, embraced America and raised three exceptional children, who also devote their time and resources to many charities, including Big Dog Ranch Rescue.”

    689. jason says:

      Amoral Scumbag will soon be here to attack the Trump family for helping the dogs when the money should be given to the American TDS Society.

    690. jason says:

      Tgca, you would have gone nuts (no pun intended) over my breakfast.

      I save all the bacon fat so I can fry just about anything in it, it is even better than lard.

      Today I deep fried scrapple in a big pot of bacon fat, it came out crispy delicious.

    691. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 20, 2022 at 6:36 pm
      The trendline is really what’s important right now.”

      Note that Amoral Scumbag is not worried about the “trendline” when it comes to his man Biden.

      – I’ve never been silent about the Supreme Court and federal judges. I have always praised Leornard Leo and the Federalist Society for presenting such outstanding choices.

      What I’m not going to do, though, is use federal judges as a way to excuse away all the awfulness of Trump’s presidency or excuse away voting for him as you continue to do.

      Your schtick about “both things can be true” is tired and wildly unpersuasive.

    692. Gordon Allen says:

      Ras at 36-61( -31). I think that’s an all time low.

    693. Bitterlaw says:

      The correct sentence is “Both can be true.” I should have trademarked it.

      GFY

    694. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 21, 2022 at 8:15 am
      Cardinal Robbie – I expect that you also oppose female Eucharistic ministers. My mom was honored to serve in that role and brought shared prayers and communion with hundreds of sick people.

      – I absolutely oppose Eucharistic ministers of any gender. Only priests who have received Holy Orders should be allowed to touch the Eucharist. The fact that your mother enjoyed doing it doesn’t change anything. It’s wrong and it was a terrible idea.

      The Catholic Church has fallen apart because self-absorbed Church liberals in the 1960’s and 1970’s demanded that they be part of something that was reserved for those who actually devoted their lives to the priesthood.

      It’s great that your mother enjoyed visiting the sick, but nothing was stopping her or anyone else from doing so before Paul VI introduced yet another one of his awful novelties.

      I don’t find it the least bit reverent when I attend Mass and see teenagers in T-shirts handing out the Eucharist to parishioners as if they’re handing out tickets to get in a movie theater.

      Just because someone wants to be part of the Mass doesn’t mean they should get to do so.

    695. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      July 21, 2022 at 9:02 am
      If Cardinal Robbie only had one match and enough wood to burn one person at the stake, I wonder if he would burn my wife for being a Jew or me for marrying her.

      – You’ve brought this BS up before and you ought to be embarrassed for yourself because you know it’s not how I feel.

      Saying I object to the novelties of the news Mass, the loss of faith that came about after Vatican II, and criticizing the heretic pope have nothing to do with who you married.

      Changing certain practices like ending the obligation not to eat meat on every Friday of the year is a lot different from questioning whether the current pope is even remotely Catholic.

      Updating practices is a lot different than changing the moral underpinnings of an entire religion.

    696. Robbie says:

      In post 705, I don’t know why a copied comment from Jason was used instead of Bitter’s comment in 690. That was the comment to which I was referring.

    697. chicon says:

      Robbie, was changing the practice of not eating meat on Fridays all year and acceptable change in your book?

    698. chicon says:

      “an” acceptable change….

    699. jason says:

      In post 705, I don’t know why a copied comment from Jason was used instead of Bitter’s comment in 690. That was the comment to which I was referring.”

      It’s just another symptom of TDS.

    700. jason says:

      What I’m not going to do, though, is use federal judges as a way to excuse away all the awfulness of Trump’s presidency or excuse away voting for him as you continue to do.”

      A shining example of how when you have TDS, substance always gets trumped by trivialities.

    701. Wobbles says:

      Ras at 36-61( -31). I think that’s an all time low.”

      RAS is bought and paid for by Trump.

      I read it over at DKos, and it was corroborated by MSNBC.

    702. Robbie says:

      chicon says:
      July 21, 2022 at 10:16 am
      Robbie, was changing the practice of not eating meat on Fridays all year and acceptable change in your book?

      – The abstention from eating meat is still required on Fridays during Lent.

      I think it’s a practice that was changed because it wasn’t being followed widely anymore.

      I support the Lenten practice, but I am fine with it not being every Friday.

      I care about the Mass, the formation of priests, and protecting the doctrine from the modernist wolves.

    703. EML says:

      Biden has COVID

    704. chicon says:

      716 – who gets to decide what church doctrine is changed, and what changes are acceptable?

    705. Phil says:

      Biden has Covid.

      That confirms it. Covid emergency. Lock the country down. Close the schools. Mask up the population. Most importantly, rev up the drop boxes and mail in ballots…with no signature verification of course.

    706. Tgca says:

      701

      I think cheating on your spouse is okay as long as you’ve been married no more than twice.

      People married more than twice lack good character.

    707. Tgca says:

      703

      Sorry! Ivana Trump may have been a dog lover but she was not a good person. She was married and divorced 4 times.

    708. Robbie says:

      chicon says:
      July 21, 2022 at 10:35 am
      716 – who gets to decide what church doctrine is changed, and what changes are acceptable?

      – Church doctrine can’t be changed. However, it can be undermined and that’s precisely what the current pope is doing. He’s been doing it on marriage and homosexuality right from the start.

      For instance, divorced and remarried Catholics aren’t supposed to receive the Eucharist at Mass. Many ignore the rule, but it’s not supposed to be done. This pope has attempted to repeatedly to change this issue, not by changing the doctrine on it, but by encouraging bishops and priests handle it in a “pastoral way”. In other words, look the other way.

      Now, many may say, “Who cares?”. My response is, if a person chooses to marry inside the Church (it is one the sacraments) and knows full well what the teachings and rules are, then the rules need to be followed. Because once one falls, those wanting to change everything will move onto another issue and then another.

      And on homosexuality, the Church is quite clear about same sex marriage, but many of the bishops and Cardinals this pope has chosen have voiced support for “gay blessings”. In fact, one of the Cardinals most likely to become the next pope, a man named Zuppi in Bologna, Italy, recently had a priest in his diocese perform a “gay blessing” and he did nothing about it. But when it was discovered, he also tried to backtrack saying he knew nothing about it.

      This pope is as political and crafty as any in the 2000 year history of the Church and he wants to create something new and different. That’s why he constantly attacks conservatives and traditionalists as retrogrades. He knows he can’t change doctrine, but he also knows, if he can just get bishops and Cardinals to ignore doctrine, then everything is up for grabs.

    709. Tgca says:

      Just like Lizzie who claims to be the MOST conservative person at HHR, I hereby proclaim I am the BEST Catholic at HHR because I abstain from eating meat everyday and not just on Fridays like the WEAKER Catholics.

      So that proves my devotion to my faith more so than anyone else here.

      Now if the Communist Pope decrees giving up tofu or tacos on Friday, that will surely test my faith.

    710. Wes says:

      It’s ironic I’m about to eat a ribeye while all these people on HHR are talking about not eating meat.

      Ah, the joys of not having religious beliefs or being a weirdo devoted to ethical eating.

    711. chicon says:

      A ribeye for lunch?

      That’s good livin’…..

    712. Robbie says:

      Gerard O’Connell
      @gerryorome
      Interview: The Vatican has a ‘very positive relationship’ with the Biden administration

      https://t.co/Lpwl3YvmZ6

      – If you don’t believe me about what this pope’s doing, just read this tweet from the Rome correspondent of America Magazine. This pope loves Biden.

      By the way, America is the Jesuit run magazine and it is further left on most issues that AOC.

    713. EML says:

      Marquette Poll: Biden job approval in Wisconsin goes from -15 in May to -28 in July.

      https://law.marquette.edu/poll/2022/07/21/mlspsc09-national-issues-release/

      Also this little nugget on the post-Roe landscape: There is also little change in enthusiasm or certainty of voting based on whether the respondent favors or opposes the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    714. chicon says:

      726 – I believe you about the pope. I’m just not sure about this whole idea that some church rules are okay to change and others aren’t. You are okay with some changes, but not others. Doesn’t every Catholic have the same right to decide what changes are okay, just as you profess to possess?

    715. chicon says:

      727 – I believe the Marquette poll sample was national rather than of Wisconsin.

    716. Robbie says:

      chicon says:
      July 21, 2022 at 11:23 am
      726 – I believe you about the pope. I’m just not sure about this whole idea that some church rules are okay to change and others aren’t.

      – Refraining from meat on Friday is not about doctrine. It was and remains a way to identify with Christ abstaining when he spent time in the desert.

    717. Robbie says:

      chicon says:
      July 21, 2022 at 11:23 am
      Doesn’t every Catholic have the same right to decide what changes are okay, just as you profess to possess?

      – The Catholic Church isn’t a democracy, so it really doesn’t matter whether Catholics support or oppose changes in doctrine.

      Popes aren’t there to redefine or reimagine the Church. They’re there to defend the teachings of Christ as they were handed down from Christ.

      Church rules change. That’s not the same as doctrinal change or attempting to undermine doctrine.

      For instance, Pope Pius X lowered the age someone could receive first Communion in 1910. It was rule change, but there’s no way it could’ve been viewed as undermining any doctrine.

      Deciding priests can bless gay unions while saying gay marriage is unacceptable is absolutely undermining doctrine.

    718. EML says:

      727 – I believe the Marquette poll sample was national rather than of Wisconsin.
      =========================
      That looks to be correct. I assumed they only did Wisconsin. If that’s the case, then -28 is worse than any job approval poll currently up on RCP.

    719. Bitterlaw says:

      This discussion makes me miss Tim V. Sadly, he died from a brain tumor. He was a great poster. Even when he assured me that I was going to burn in Hell because I am a Catholic, it was never mean spirited.

    720. Tina says:

      Wes has good tastes.

      Ribeye is my favorite.

    721. Phil says:

      Bitter, I never knew about Tim V’s illness.

    722. jason says:

      Sniff..ribeye..all I had was a Reuben.

      Of course it was two gigantic Reubens, piled high with corned beef, swiss cheese, sauerkraut (got have them healthy veggies) and deli mustard.

      And a Troeg’s Perpetual IPA, you have to help the local economy.

    723. jason says:

      It was no secret, he talked about here.

      He actually had a pretty good remission at one point and lived longer than expected.

    724. Bitterlaw says:

      Tim V. was a friend on FB. He was devoted to his family, especially his grandchildren.

    725. DW says:

      Phil, the only way COVID can be stopped is by having ballot drop boxes on EVERY street corner of every major city.

    726. DW says:

      If I recall correctly, Tim V was from the Rochester, NY area.

    727. DW says:

      Pro-death demonstrators continue to hound the Kavanaugh’s neighbors and their children, apparently because they cannot get Kavanaugh himself.

      These losers have made a CHOICE to turn down birth-control.

      These losers have made a CHOICE to have unprotected sex.

      These losers have made a CHOICE to not take the morning after pill.

      These losers demand the right to irresponsibly decline all these other choices and ONLY have the choice to rip the arms and legs off the child they CHOSE to have growing inside them.

    728. Bitterlaw says:

      He did.

    729. EML says:

      Of course it was two gigantic Reubens, piled high with corned beef, swiss cheese, sauerkraut (got have them healthy veggies) and deli mustard.
      ===============================
      Missing something

    730. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Utah Senate race is still close. I do believe Lee will eke out a victory; but it is a tight race.

      “The survey of 801 registered Utah voters shows 41% would vote for Lee and 36% for McMullin if the general election were held today. Another 14% would choose another candidate (two third-party candidates are on the ballot) and 8% don’t know who they would vote for.”

      All four Utah Republican Congress members were among the 47 Republicans who voted to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act. The LDS Church recently announced it would no longer consider Mormons in same sex marriages as “apostates”.

    731. Tgca says:

      I guess we Catholics will be rotting alongside Jesus since he was in essence the original Catholic followed by his disciples.

      I knew Tim V passed on but did not recall him being so virulently anti-Catholic.

      I think he and LisaB were good friends…or was that another Tim?

    732. Wes says:

      See, Tg? Jason, Tina, and I eat real food. You should try it sometime.

    733. EML says:

      Jesus was not Catholic. Catholicism is an amalgamation of Christianity and ancient Roman religions.

      After Emperor Constantine’s conversion in the early 4th century, in order to make Christianity more palatable to the previously polytheistic Romans, he incorporated a number of their paganist beliefs into Christianity, such as the nonsense of Immaculate Conception and elevating Mary to God status (the polytheists needed a female God). A large number of the rites and rituals that are now part and parcel of being a Catholic were incorporated from the Roman paganists and were not practiced either by the early church or protestants of today.

    734. Bitterlaw says:

      I think lisab and Tim V. battled over religion but liked each other personally.

    735. Wes says:

      Tim V was a Protestant while LisaB was an apparently lapsed Catholic. Protestants and Baptists consider Catholicism to be an appalling bastardization of Christianity.

      It’s amazing how Christians consider theirs the only true religion but further refine it down to their denomination’s being the only true denomination of the only true religion.

      Ultimately Tim V turned on Lisa and started calling her a “flat-chested whore.”

    736. EML says:

      But the absolute worst of the worst are atheists. 100 million people murdered in the name of atheism in the 20th century alonr.

    737. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Biden Real Clear Polling Average approval rating:7/5-7/20

      Approve 36.8%
      Disapprove 57.5%
      -20.7%

    738. Wes says:

      I would say neither theists not atheists have a monopoly on murder, EML.

      Christianity and Islam have their crusades and jihads, which occurred centuries before the communist purges I guess you’re referring to.

      People will find an excuse to oppress, torture, exploit, and kill others regardless of their status as believers or non-believers.

      Trying to blame a lack of faith advocated by a minority of people on the planet for the majority of appalling behavior by humans is sheer sophistry.

    739. JulStol says:

      We’re discussing marital ethics and eating habits? Good times.

      I’ve been doing one meal per day for months now. Started the year at 195 and I’m down to 170.

      My highest weight was 280 back in 2017. I’ve been taking much better care of myself since. No alcohol, no soda, sparing on carbs. Do love me a good steak. If you’ve never tried reverse searing, I recommend it. Finish the steak in a pan in wagyu tallow or lard. Butter has too low a smoke point.

      Dinner last night was more TGCA-Gnat friendly.
      Refried black beans (topped with homemade salsa) and broccoli (tossed in thai peanut sauce).

      I’ll be down your way next week, TGCA. Any restaurant recommendations in St. Aug?

    740. EML says:

      St. Augustine might as well be in another country. Tgca doesn’t leave his Dem stronghold of Broward County. Too many conservatives out there. And would you really wamt to go to any restaurant that tgca would recommend?

    741. EML says:

      Atheists murdered more people in the 20th century than all other religions put together did in the previous 19. Atheists are by far the worst group of people in human history.

    742. Wes says:

      Sure, EML. Let’s go with that completely unbiased and perfectly sourced opinion.

    743. JulStol says:

      St. Augustine is basically Salem South with quite a vibrant alphabet community. I’m sure he’s gotten up there occasionally.

      I enjoy eating things that won’t cause me to have a heart attack at 50 too. Accidentally went vegetarian for about 2 weeks early in the year.

    744. JulStol says:

      I get EMLs point. CCP & the Soviets. I’ll leave the rest up to debate.

    745. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Buttigieg is as dumb as Biden, and can’t use age as an excuse:

      @JesseKellyDC
      REMINDER: They’re not going to solve the problems because in their minds, they aren’t problems. To them, the only problem is you. Your love of freedom. Your car. Your food. Your different political beliefs.

      All our leaders think the problem is YOU.

      @theblaze

      Pete Buttigieg:
      “The more pain we are all experiencing from the high price of gas, the more benefit there is for those who can access electric vehicles”

    746. DW says:

      So maybe the other day when Biden said he had cancer, he really meant he had Covid.

    747. DW says:

      These people are evil. They claim to be champions of the poor, and yet they tell the poor to cough up $50,000 for an electric car, and in most cities, this means another $1000 a year for property tax on it. But it supposedly saves them money over their old Plymouth Neon they are driving around that has almost no property tax on it.

      And the old Plymouth Neon can go from Florida to Minnesota in an easy two day trip, while the expensive electric car has to stop for regular 8 hour charges, adding many days to the trip.

      Simply put, the Dem’s plan for you is to:

      1) Shut up!
      2) Stay HOME!
      3) Don’t even think about any extra spending money.
      4) Turn over to us all your assets
      5) Die as quickly as possible to make room for someone else.

      That is the Democratic Party platform in a nutshell.

    748. EML says:

      Congresswoman Wild (PA-07) says that she needs to teach Carbon County Trump voters a lesson.

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vulnerable-house-democrat-school-rural-trump-voters-win-support

      “Carbon County has many attributes, but it is a county that – although it was once an Obama county – it since has become a Trump county,” she said. “I’m not quite sure what was in their heads because the people of Carbon County are exactly the kind of people who should not be voting for a Donald Trump, but I guess I might have to school them on that a little bit.”

      I can’t think of a better way to win over voters than by telling them “I don’t understand what’s in your head, you dummies shouldn’t be voting for Trump”.

    749. Gordon Allen says:

      As of June 30 the GOP gained net another 27,000 voter registration increase over the Dems,and now lead by 202,000( from plus 175 000 to 202,000) in Florida.
      Seems we gain roughly 15-20,000 every month.

    750. DW says:

      762 – the answer is to read 761.

    751. Robbie says:

      “And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.”

      Was Christ a Catholic? No. He was a Jewish rabbi. We all know that. However, he commanded St. Peter to start his church for him. That church was the Catholic Church and Peter was the first Pope. And in the Traditional Mass when the Missal is moved from the right side of the altar to the left side of the altar before the Gospel, it represents God switching his covenant from the Jewish people to the Gentiles.

      Plenty of things that were part of the Traditional Latin Mass were taken from Jewish and Roman rites. The Mass was created from an organic, bottom-up process. There’s even Greek in it, the Kyrie. It wasn’t officially codified until Pope St. Gregory the Great did so in the Fourth Century. Still, it was used for more than 1600 years and was reaffirmed by Pope St. Pius V in Quo Primum after the Council of Trent.

      Sadly, the current pope has sought to wipe the TLM and its history from the books. For him, anything that reminds people of the time before 1962, when Vatican II began, is to be forgotten. Those who prefer that period are persecuted, especially if they clergy members. Talk of saving souls has been shelved and society has eroded ever since.

      I only bring this up because this pope is changing the face of the Church, both by deed, word, and appointment. He wants a Church that functions as a spiritual NGO focused on climate change and migrant welfare. The days of the Catholic Chruch being a backstop for the cause of the unborn or traditional values are ending. Conservatives and Republicans will not be able to count on the Church for backup. It if you want evidence, look to abortion. The response to the end of Roe came from a minor congregation and not from the pope. Shameful.

    752. Bitterlaw says:

      Of course JulStol lost weight. He’s on a starvation diet.

      No soda? That would eliminate most of caloric intake.

    753. EML says:

      A woman in front of me at the store yesterday was telling the cashier that she lost 90 pounds “just” by cutting sugar out of her diet – including the 8 cans of soda a day she used to drink. Shocking, cutting out 1200 empty calories a day leads to weight loss.

    754. Wes says:

      I don’t understand why people drink sodas anymore. Sodas are disgusting.

    755. Wes says:

      On the other hand, Matt Berry knows what to drink:

      https://tenor.com/view/whiskey-snuffbox-mattberry-gif-5280117

    756. Bitterlaw says:

      I always wondered how a church built on a rock could prevail against a gate. If the rock is not moving and the gate is not moving, wouldn’t they just stay away from each other? Tough to prevail in that situation.

    757. Tina says:

      Courtney Holland ??
      @hollandcourtney
      ·
      3h
      Ouch. New
      @Civiqs
      polling is in and we are seeing some all time lows for Biden in Nevada:

      Biden Job Approval/Disapproval:
      29/61

      Independents:
      15/76

      Hispanics:
      36/52

      Females:
      33/54
      Males:
      24/68

      College Graduates:
      27/64

      Ages 18-34:
      22/63
      Ages 35-49:
      24/64

    758. Robbie says:

      In the Fall of 1984, Ronald Reagan campaigned at a Catholic shrine in Philadelphia and Cardinal John Krol appeared with him. The Cardinal praised Reagan’s policies. At almost the same time, Archbishop O’Connor of New York openly criticized Ferraro, a Catholic, on her abortion stance. He said she was misleading people about the Catholic Church’s stance on abortion when she claimed the Church’s view was open to interpretation.

      Whether Cardinals and Archbishops should become as involved in politics as Krol and O’Connor did in 1984 is a question for another day. However, it is striking to see how they acted then because I can assure you no one in the Catholic hierarchy of the US would do so today. And frankly, they would probably come down on Ferraro’s side now. The current pope certainly would because there’s nothing he hates more than conservative politics or policy.

      So again, conservatives and Republicans who have looked to Catholic leaders for backup on moral and social issues should realize that time has passed now that the Argentinian socialist lives in the Vatican.

    759. Bitterlaw says:

      Only 8 sodas? I know I have consumed more than 12 in a day but my blood sugar was crashing all day due to activity.

      Coke is a guaranteed 140 calories at a time. It’s almost medicinal.

    760. Tgca says:

      746. Wes

      As Aunt Esther would say:

      You Heathen!

      There should be no meat eating on Fridays. Tofu is ok for now until the Communist Pope says differently.

    761. Bitterlaw says:

      Carbon County was devastated when the coal mines closed. One town, Jim Thorpe (formerly Mauch Chunk), reinvented itself as a center for art and recreation. There are Victorian mansions, bike and hiking trails, and a river for recreation.

    762. Tgca says:

      747

      I think Lizzy missed the intended Catholic comedic musing.

      …and Protestants are fake Christians! My mom was Protestant but the rules dictate children be brought up in the religion of their Hispanic father…Thank God!

      Hay Soos would agree with mi padre requirement too.

    763. EML says:

      Protestants are the only real Christians. Catholicism is an extension of the ancient Roman religion. Purgatory? No such thing exists either in historical Judaism or Christianity. More nonsense that Catholicism brought in from other religions. Praying to Mary? What is she going to do for you? Nothing. She’s a sinner in need of redemption like everyone else. Might as well be praying to Hitler.

    764. Bitterlaw says:

      Wow. You don’t usually hear so much anti-Catholic rhetoric outside of a Klan really.

      I leave people to embrace the faith or non-faith of their choice. None of us really knows the answers to questions about these weighty issues. If somebody dies and can come back as a ghost, please let us know.

    765. Wes says:

      We need to get a pay-per-view set up for this Christian vs. Christian fight.

      As an atheist, I have no side to pick, but it’s hilarious to watch Christians fight over who the real Christians are.

    766. EML says:

      I live next to an oil refinery specifically so I can get cancer and come back to haunt bitter.

    767. EML says:

      Christian vs. Christian fight
      =======================
      Catholics aren’t Christians 😀

    768. Robbie says:

      EML says:
      July 21, 2022 at 3:30 pm
      Praying to Mary? What is she going to do for you? Nothing. She’s a sinner in need of redemption like everyone else. Might as well be praying to Hitler.

      – I have always found it odd how much Protestants dislike the Catholic devotion to the Holy Mother.

      The three young children of Fatima would certainly disagree that praying to her is the same as praying to Hitler.

    769. Robbie says:

      EML says:
      July 21, 2022 at 3:46 pm
      Catholics aren’t Christians ?

      – My hot take is I somewhat agree with this whether you meant it or not.

    770. Wes says:

      I wonder which side Demon Knight would come down on in this battle between sects claiming to be Christian:

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTF9etEvHE

    771. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “British spy chief says Russia ‘about to run out of steam’ in Ukraine. According to Richard Moore, chief of the U.K.’s Secret Intelligence Service, the Russian military will likely take a certain operational pause in the next few weeks, Sky News reported. “I think our assessment is that the Russians will increasingly find it difficult to supply manpower material over the next few weeks,” he said. Moore believes this will give Ukraine an opportunity to strike back.”

    772. Tgca says:

      I’m registering a complaint with Dave W.

      We Catholics need a safe space from the anti-Catholic KKK members at HHR.

      We Catholics are the single largest Christian denomination in the world. Suck it you KKKers.

      …and good luck attracting Latinos to the GOP with such Catholic hate.

      Hay-Soos would not approve.

    773. Gordon Allen says:

      Man,this site goes for every possible argument possible.

    774. EML says:

      Yankees tie it up with 2 outs in the top of the 9th. Jesus is a Yankees fan.

    775. Wes says:

      So, Tg, since I’ve already mentioned the movie, what are your thoughts on Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight (1995)? Personally I think it’s one of the best ’90s horror movies even though it feels more like a movie from the Reagan Era than one from the Clinton Era.

    776. Bitterlaw says:

      We need to get an atheist vs. agnostic fight going.

    777. Wes says:

      Who on here self-identifies as an agnostic, Bitter? I identify as an atheist. I know Polaris also used to identify as such. I don’t know of anyone claiming to be an agnostic.

    778. EML says:

      Agnostic = I’m not sure if there’s a God
      Atheist = there is no God and if you don’t agree, I will kill you

    779. Wes says:

      Isn’t it weird how I neither believe in any kind of god nor want to kill anyone who believes in one, EML?

      You may have a slightly overly emotional reaction to beliefs that conflict with yours.

    780. EML says:

      Nah, just too much interaction with atheists. In my experience, there are 2 kinds of atheists. The first (in the minority) are the ones who are more I don’t believe in God, but I don’t think about it too much. The majority are the militant types who now control the Democratic Party. They care much more about what everybody else believes instead of what they believe and very much believe that only atheists should be allowed in government. We are seeing many of these now calling for Christians to be banned from politics. These people are a danger to the rest of society. There is no freedom of religion with these zealots.

    781. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes – We had a Utopian Socialist. We have 2 gay Republicans. thought we might have an agnostic. Sue me.

    782. Wes says:

      I have had the exact opposite experience, EML. Most of the atheists I know are like me and don’t worry about religion beyond an esoteric interest in the development of the various world religions. I do know some militant atheists, but they’re in the minority of those I’ve interacted with.

      Of course I know Christians who want their religion codified as the national faith though they’re probably the minority as well. Objectively speaking, there are extremists on any side of an issue. Attacking one group as the one laden with extremists speaks of bias and a desire to dehumanize those adhering to different points of view.

    783. EML says:

      Atheists are the ones who murdered 100 million people. Objectively worse than Nazis.

    784. Wes says:

      I guess you’re referring to communists, EML. That would be more because of their dictatorial political ideology than anything to do with religious beliefs. Considering Christians have the blood of people ranging from Amerindians to the Congolese to the Chinese when Great Britain wanted to dominate the opium market on their hands, I would argue atheists are no worse than Christians.

      Your bias toward your own particular sect of a given religion while ignoring the crimes committed by those proclaiming your faith in no way helps your cause.

    785. Tgca says:

      790

      I don’t remember if I saw that one Wes. But I do have the Tales from the Crypt series collection on DVD.

      I always got a kick out of the Crypt Keeper’s laugh.

      Reminds me of some friends here at HHR.

    786. EML says:

      Big argument going on in the county legislature meeting right now. They can’t get 911 dispatchers in, so they want to raise their pay by $10,000/year. Problem is, this puts them (which the only requirement is a high school diploma) closer to the pay level as other positions that require a masters degree. They are going to have to raise everybody’s pay and the discussion is getting spicy.

    787. Tgca says:

      796

      2 gay Republicans? Who? Michael doesn’t post here anymore.

      With the new studies showing 20% of the world, and 50% of youngsters in London being LGBTQIA2S+ me thinks we have quite a few more gay Republicans at HHR.

    788. EML says:

      That would be more because of their dictatorial political ideology than anything to do with religious beliefs.
      ========================
      Wrong. Communism is an atheist crusade against all other religions. This is not my opinion, this is exactly what Marx says the purpose of Communism is. I don’t deny that other religions have committed atrocities, but none of them murdered 100 million people. Atheists are the worst. Congrats, you’re #1.

    789. EML says:

      50% of youngsters in London being LGBTQIA2S+
      ==================
      So we can dispense with the nonsense that people are born gay. It’s a learned behavior.

    790. Tgca says:

      801

      So what? Give them all a raise! It’s good for the economy. More spending power to people.

      Any inflation from the increased spending is only TRANSITORY according to Janet Yellen so I take her word for it because she’s really smart, having a PhD in economics from Yale and having taught at Harvard and Berkeley, in addition to having many high profile jobs over the years.

      Like Dr. Fow-chee, she is someone whose judgment is unassailable.

    791. Tgca says:

      804

      Nope! Mutated genes. Probably from too many Fruit Loops as a kid or vaccinations altering the DNA.

    792. EML says:

      So in the past 20 years, everybody’s genes mutated so that all the kids being born now are gay. Interesting theory.

    793. Tgca says:

      803

      Why is Pootin an Orthodox Christian then? Did he give up communism?

    794. Tgca says:

      807

      EXACTLY!

      Don’t let your kids eat Froot Loops!

      …or Cocoa Puffs!

    795. EML says:

      So ban froot loops = no more gays?

    796. EML says:

      They don’t have froot loops in london though. Maybe too many sausages?

    797. Tgca says:

      810

      I wouldn’t say “no more gays” but it could drastically decrease the current population down from 50%.

      London has had Unicorn Froot Loops since 2017. Unicorns are EXTRA gay!

      That coincides with the recent increase of self-identifying LGBTQIA2S+ in comparison to 50 years ago.

      See the scientific link now?

      https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/unicorn-froot-loops-kelloggs-uk-launch-asda-supermarkets-a7952671.html

    798. NYCmike says:

      “What I’m not going to do, though, is use federal judges as a way to excuse away all the awfulness of Trump’s presidency or excuse away voting for him as you continue to do.”

      -Need to ask this again…….what was the “awfulness” you speak about?

      Trade wars that got nobody killed, it just made arranging inventory a bit harder for Walmart and Amazon?

      A much more secure southern border?

      Drill Baby Drill & ALL OF THE ABOVE energy policy?

      Those “AWFUL” things?

      Keep up the good work on the Pope issue. I have been to a Latin Mass, in Queens, NY, but they had to disband that because of Francis. Next time a seminarian speaks at our mass and mentions the environment I told my wife I’m walking out.

    799. EML says:

      Now you get to tell people that you were gay before being gay was cool.

    800. NYCmike says:

      “Why would her thighness tweet this?”

      -Read the other tweets! I’m amazed that there are people who are infatuated with such a person, and NEED that person to be President like they are a savior or something. Crazy.

    801. Tgca says:

      813. NYC

      Trump was married 3 times and was a foul-mouth misogynistic pig. Let’s not forget his offensive “grab ‘em by the p*ssy remark.”

      Not even Mother Liberty was safe from him, as evidenced by the attached link.

      https://images.indianexpress.com/2017/01/donald-trump_6-lennart-gc3a4bel-hamburg-germany-11_759.jpg

    802. EML says:

      Jason was nice enough to post a video of himself eating dinner tonight.

      https://youtu.be/MpIIyY-ZaVQ

    803. Tgca says:

      817

      Oh that’s nothing!

      Try this healthy meal challenge! 15 pounds of sheer delight.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqIbZnmzLHk

    804. Gordon Allen says:

      Don’t forget everyone to get double boosted, after a double vaccination, because as our government tells us Covid is ONLY “a disease of the unvaccinated”.
      Please follow our Leader’s on this; surely they can be trusted. Right??

    805. EML says:

      Gross. And not really challenging. Tofu is like 90% water so it’s like drinking less than 2 gallons of water.

      Tgca is almost certainly a nikocado avocado fan.

    806. EML says:

      In fact, tgca might actually be nikocado avocado. It all fits.

    807. Bitterlaw says:

      Today’s topics included religion, is Wes a mass murderer, when did lisab become a flat-chested whore, and whether cereal causes homosexuality.

      I think that pretty much ends the idea that this is JUST a polling site.

    808. EML says:

      I can here for the polls, I stayed for all the love. Maybe the real treasure was the friends we made along the way. Jk, f’off you philly ahole.

    809. EML says:

      Nikocado avocado is a gay youtuber who started out with a vegan/healthy eating channel and has now descended into a mukbang channel where he is trying to eat his way to 400 pounds. He is widely condemned for his abusive relationship with his partner and for trying to eat himself to death for the views.

      Heavily Accented Genius
      Always Wrong
      King of Strawmen
      Nikocado Avocado

    810. NYCmike says:

      EML is really enjoying being a father! He is taking on a bit of a Walt flair, with a little extra edge and without the Drudge monkey stories.

    811. Tina says:

      Wow, the joke 6 commission hearing ended with a big dud.

      The jebots will need to regroup and push a new hoax.

    812. Cash Cow TM says:

      Something I have not seen discussed here or anywhere about the MD governor’s race on the D side.

      Yom Perez was one of the top 3 candidates going into the election.

      He was former DNC head and a former cabinet level official in Obamer administration.

      He was glowing endorsed by:

      –Washington Post
      –Baltimore Sun
      –Former President Obamer (who did TV ads for Perez)
      –numerous county executives of big pop. MD counties
      –numerous MD State senators and Delegates
      –numerous labor unions

      Yet he lost.

    813. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      The Libs just love trying to murder conservatives. First Kavanaugh and now GOP Governatorial candidate Lee Zeldin in Rochester, NY. Of course, the media is describing it as an attack and not an attempted assassination.

      https://twitter.com/i/events/1550290450426183682

    814. Tgca says:

      824

      Ha! Ha!

      Let me return the favor Lizzie.

      EML, our Liz Cheney Republican, a.k.a Lizzie or the Hispanic Whisperer

      Ignorant Bigoted Caucasian HHR poster
      Delusions of Grandeur Narcissist
      TDS Mental Disorder Sufferer
      Robbie’s 69 Buddy

    815. Tgca says:

      Hey Lizzie!

      Tell us again how you proclaimed, after the 2020 census, the GOP has picked up 4 net EV in GOP states when the actual number is 3.

      Lizzie does Dem math:

      5 GOP state EV gains less 2 GOP state EV losses = 4 net GOP state EV gains.

      I guess that’s like 2 + 2 = 5…riiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

    816. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      2024 National Republican Primary Poll:

      Trump 56% (+24)
      DeSantis 32%

      @EchelonInsights
      ~ 431 LV ~ 7/15-7-18
      https://echeloninsights.com/in-the-news/july-22-omnibus-trump-desantis/

    817. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      2024 National Republican Primary Poll:

      DeSantis 45%
      Pence 12%
      Trump Jr. 9%
      Cruz 4%
      Haley 3%
      Romney 2%
      Rubio 2%
      Pompeo 2%
      Christie 2%
      T. Scott 1%
      Noem 1%
      Cheney 1%
      Youngkin 1%
      Hogan 0%
      Cotton 0%
      Hawley 0%
      Abbott 0%
      R. Scott 0%
      Taylor Greene 0%

      @EchelonInsights
      ~ 431 LV

    818. Tina says:

      I will be away for a bit. I tested positive for Covid and so far the symptoms are minor. I will check back next week.

    819. EML says:

      ^^^ Found Biden’s account

    820. EML says:

      Now that Sheeple blew up this thread, can someone wake up the wizard and get us a clean one?

    821. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #839- EML
      Your comment about our beloved Yankees tieing the Astros in the 9th made me hopeful. Then I saw, the Astros scored a run in the bottom of the inning to win. I had to deflect my anger somewhere so why not at HHR where my good friends like Robbie would understand(sarc-LOL) Of course, the Yankees pitching collapsed in the second game of the twofer.

    822. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #837- Tina
      The best to a quick recovery. Your sense of humor will be missed. Regards, Sheeple

    823. Gordon Allen says:

      My wife and I had Covid some months back.
      Basically was a head cold,with accompanying fatigue.
      Rest ,drink plenty of fluids, take vitamin D3 and C,and you’ll be fine.
      Best of luck Tina

    824. DW says:

      CNN’s Van Jones: “The Pain Is More Intense” for Black Americans Under Biden

      Sorry for not whipping out my cello to play a mournful piece for you Van. Black Americans VOTED for this, let them feel the pain and maybe they will learn something.

    825. Cash Cow TM says:

      Neil Parrott

      R candidate for MD 6th CD

      Somebody up thread asked about Parrott.

      ******************************************
      Walt knows the guy.
      He and Walt participated in the annual Quad State legislative meeting. Parrott has been in the State House of Delegates since 2011.

      Parrott is hard right R–very conservative. Endorsed by Trump, so most of you here would like that.

      Parrott ran against David Trone in last election and lost by a wide margin. CD 6 was held by an R
      (Rosco Bartlett) but redistricting and the Obama 2012 wave doomed him.

      [interesting side note: “Following his defeat for re-election, Bartlett decided with his wife to live “off-the-grid” in the West Virginia mountains. Their cabin lacks electricity, phone service, and municipal plumbing. Bartlett currently works as a senior consultant for Lineage Technologies, a cyber security group that seeks to protect supply chains.[38]

      Bartlett is a vegetarian and does not drink alcohol or smoke. He also grows his own organic vegetables.[39]” (I think he is dead now)]

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      MD CD 6 includes all the westernmost 4 counties plus a large portion of Montgomery County.

      The 3 far western counties (Allegheny, Garrett and Washington) are big R counties. Fredrick County (including City of Fredrick) is historically R but trending more purple with increase people from DC urban sprawl.

      The 4 westernmost counties have about 570,000 population. Montgomery County (heavy D) has about 1.1 million population and about 230,000 residents from MC are in the MD 6th CD.

      In Montgomery County 40% of residents at home speak some language other than English–so there is that.

      Trone (D) is freshman congressman who has $2 MM in campaign funds. Parrott has about $160,000 in his campaign account.

      Some sites rate this in Nov. as a D+1 and some an R+1.

      Might be competitive.

    826. jason says:

      Somebody up thread asked about Parrott.”

      Sniff…all these years and Cow calls me a “somebody”.

      HHR is a tough place.

    827. jason says:

      I will be away for a bit. I tested positive for Covid and so far the symptoms are minor. I will check back next week.”

      I am sorry, but Covid is not an excuse for slacking off here.

    828. jason says:

      A feel good beaver”

      I thought this was a family site.

    829. Wobbles says:

      Trash that poll.

      Jeb! is not even at 1%, which is impossible.

      Everyone in Bogo Pogo loves him, and in a globalized world, we should be polling there too.

    830. EML says:

      New MD-06
      2020: Biden +9.8
      2016: Hillary +1.2

      Old MD-06
      2020: Biden +22.9
      2016: Hillary +15.8

      So about a 13 point shift from the old district tot he new one. Definitely competitive even though Biden won by almost 10. The primary election turnout was roughly 50.6%R 49.4%D.

    831. Wobbles says:

      Parrott is hard right R–very conservative. Endorsed by Trump, so most of you here would like that.”

      I have mailed the Democrat a check.

    832. jason says:

      Rest ,drink plenty of fluids, take vitamin D3 and C,and you’ll be fine.”

      And I thought Neville Allen only read Putin propaganda.

      I stand corrected.

    833. jason says:

      Crazy.

      “After making an alleged attack on a major political candidate, with an accompanying threat, the man, David Jakubonis, 43, was charged with attempted assault in the second degree and then immediately released, within hours of his arrest, without bail.”

    834. jason says:

      If he was a “white supremacist” attacking the Dem candidate would he have been released?

    835. EML says:

      Rasmussen generic ballot now up to Republicans +10 (49/39)

    836. DW says:

      “Rasmussen generic ballot now up to Republicans +10 (49/39)”

      And there are still some hand-wringers at RRH over the abortion backlash.

    837. Bitterlaw says:

      Best of luck to you, Tina. Recover quickly.

      Damn. Dave requires quarantine from posting if you get COVID? Harsh.

    838. jason says:

      Damn. Dave requires quarantine from posting if you get COVID? Harsh.”

      I think stand-ins are allowed.

      I can hunt a few RINOS and attack Biden’s Beotch and the Luntz Tenant while Tina is out.

      No, no need to thank you. Any expensive CA cabernet will suffice.

    839. jason says:

      Huh, that was “no need to thank me”, geezus.

    840. Bitterlaw says:

      What if Tina was taken out by Deep State and this was a fake post?

    841. Wes says:

      “After making an alleged attack on a major political candidate, with an accompanying threat, the man, David Jakubonis, 43, was charged with attempted assault in the second degree and then immediately released, within hours of his arrest, without bail.”

      We used to take attempted assassinations of politicians more seriously. When Giuseppe Zangara tried to assassinate Franklin Roosevelt in 1933, Roosevelt escaped death only because a woman grabbed Zangara’s arm and threw his aim off. This was unfortunate for Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak, whom the bullet struck in the abdomen. While not immediately fatal, the bullet that struck Cermak triggered peritonitis (inflammation of the lining of the abdominal cavity), to which the Mayor succumbed a few weeks later. Zangara immediately went on trial and received a death sentence. The State of Florida executed him in its electric chair just a few weeks later.

      Now we have a man trying to stab a sitting Congressman and candidate for Governor only to be released without bail almost immediately.

      That’s sheer ridiculousness.

    842. DW says:

      “That’s sheer ridiculousness.”

      Had it been the Democratic Party candidate, then the perpetrator would be under the bright lights right now down in the police headquarters basement, with demands for names of who else was involved. No bail.

    843. Wes says:

      I agree, DW. Republicans should be highlighting this as the sort of soft-on-crime antics Democrats are known for. We of course know the Dems would have handled the situation entirely differently had some loon tried to assassinate Hochul, but that they’re flippant about this because of the partisan affiliation of the potential victim is something the GOP can point to as a reason why people shouldn’t want Democrats to be responsible for public safety.

    844. Wes says:

      Robbie should be by soon to express his delight. Steve Bannon has been found guilty of contempt:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/07/22/us/politics/bannon-trial-contempt-charges.amp.html

    845. DW says:

      Wes, don’t forget the attack by a left-winger on the Republican baseball practice, the one that nearly killed Steve Scalise. Had that been a Republican attacking the Democratic Party baseball practice, the media would have talked about it for MUCH longer, there would have been hearings in congress, and it would have gone on and on, and they would have used it to grab guns and end the 2nd amendment.

      But because it was a leftist loon and the GOP victims—-ho hum.

    846. Tgca says:

      860. Wes

      Evidently FLoreedah knows how to do justice right.

    847. Wes says:

      Oh, I know, DW. The media quickly forgot about Hodgkinson after he was declared dead.

    848. Wes says:

      Apparently so, Tg. John Hinckley should have received the Zangara treatment in 1981.

    849. DW says:

      Releasing this attacker on Bail illustrates one of the predictions I have been making. Dems are well on their way to Soviet-style regulations that are so complex and impossible to follow that in essence, every citizen will be a criminal because there is simply no way to avoid it. In this environment, the Dem leaders can simply prosecute and punish whoever they want. They can ignore the ‘crimes’ of their friends, and jail and fine political enemies. This is happening right in front of our eyes as we become a communist state.

      This structure is already in place in higher ed. I know enough about this industry to know that its already true that EVERY institution is in violation of the very confusingly written regulations. And so the Dem-Soviet leaders we have can, at any moment, choose to punish whatever school they wish to, and look the other way for others. Trump tried to correct some of this by throwing out one of the most confusing regulations Obama put in place back in 2014. Biden is right now bringing this back.

    850. Tgca says:

      Why are celebrities soooooo STOOPID and self absorbed?

      Musician Pat Benatar said she refuses to perform her hit song “Hit Me with Your Best Shot” out of deference to the victims of mass shootings.

      Does this nutcase think the world is watching her every moment and that loved ones of gun violence are going to collapse into tears if they hear the phrase “hit me with your best shot?”

      Should we ban COVID shots too because people may relate the “word” to shooting massacres as well?

      God forbid a young vibrant man is overheard telling a male friend he “shot his load last night.”

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2022/07/21/pat-benatar-tour-gun-violence-rock-hall-of-fame/10111799002/

    851. Tgca says:

      867

      Maybe Floreedah should arrest Menendez too next time he’s in Floreedah.

      I think the state can make a good case against the Sewer State senator for crimes against children but I’m sure some northeast lawyer will come down to represent him.

    852. Wes says:

      I never knew Pat Benatar was a left-wing loon, Tg. Is she really so self-absorbed she thinks anyone equates her song with mass shootings?

      No one cares, Pat. It’s just a song. Quit being a virtue-signaling moonbat.

    853. Wes says:

      I don’t think Florida has jurisdiction to arrest Menendez since he committed his, um, activities in the Dominican and hasn’t been charged despite the multiple allegations against him.

    854. Tgca says:

      I think if the GOP gets control of the Executive branch again it should seek special protections against biased juries in the northeast just like they did in the south

      There’s an argument to be made for not getting g a fair trial in these areas.

    855. Wes says:

      I just did some follow-up research on the Roosevelt-Zangara incident. Apparently Floridians have Zangara to thank for establishing Death Row. Under Florida law at the time, a capital murderer couldn’t share a cell with another inmate. Since Florida already had an inmate awaiting execution, the prison had to expand the waiting area for criminals awaiting execution, thus resulting in Florida’s Death Row.

      Zangara may not have achieved his goal of “killing a great leader,” but you have to admit he was a trailblazer.

    856. Tgca says:

      872. Wes

      Well, that’s a given but you’re thinking as if prosecutors have to follow the law. That’s soooo pre-J6C dude!

      I think we can make an exception because DR is closer to FL than NJ and one has to fly past FL to get to DR from NJ so clearly FL can make a case for jurisdiction here.

      I’m just thinking more broad-minded like Justice Kagan who now argues we should take “feelings and public sentiment” into consideration when deciding court cases.

    857. Tgca says:

      871. Wes

      I don’t know her politics as she’s not really been in the spotlight since the early 80s. She was dethroned by the pop princesses that came along in the mid-80s with the MTV expansion though I think she was technically more talented than them.

      I would think most of her fan base are not lib loons but who knows what’s in those COVID shots people are so eager to take.

      My suspicion is she’s still surrounded by industry folks who think like Hollywood.

      I would just say to her:

      Shut up and sing Bish!

    858. Bitterlaw says:

      Stop hating. She killed Nazis, damn it. How many other rock stars can say that?

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZInRE-KryGA

    859. Wes says:

      Considering rock music didn’t exist till 1955, no rock star can claim to have killed Nazis, Bitter.

    860. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes – An 18 year old soldier attacking Germany or Japanese-held territory in 1945 would have been 28 in 1955. Are you going to say there were no rock stars older than 28?

      It was a joke, Wes. Accept it for what it was or be a douche.

    861. EML says:

      I don’t use twitter. Anyone know what happened to InteractivePolls today? All their tweets are gone. This is where tina could’ve been useful.

    862. EML says:

      Nevermind, they are back

    863. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes- Did you watch the video?

    864. EML says:

      Here’s a video for you. A little insight into where I live. One of the greatest and most exclusive delicacies of American cuisine. Ray Turner’s smoked eels. Each eel will run you $25ish and only available in Hancock, NY. Or if you happen to visit high end NYC restaurants on the right day in September/October (at a 10x markup). You have never put anything so delicious into your mouth.

      https://vimeo.com/12495011

    865. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      2024 National General Election Poll:

      Trump 46% (+3)
      Biden 43%

      Trump 45% (+5)
      Sanders 40%

      @EmersonPolling
      ~ 1,078 RV ~ 7/19-7/20

    866. Bitterlaw says:

      You have never put anything so delicious into your mouth.

      Gayest post of the day.

    867. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “According to FiveThirtyEight’s presidential approval tracker,1 37.5 percent of Americans approve of the job Biden is doing as president, while 57.2 percent disapprove (a net approval rating of -19.7 percentage points). At this time last week, 38.7 percent approved and 56.0 percent disapproved (a net approval rating of -17.3 points). One month ago, Biden had an approval rating of 39.6 percent and a disapproval rating of 54.8 percent, for a net approval rating of -15.2 points.”

    868. EML says:

      I contemplated gaying up the post for tgca but deleted it. Thank you for doing it

    869. jason says:

      I saw a show about Turner and how he smokes his eels.

      Would love to try some even at $25 a shot.

    870. jason says:

      Of course it was two gigantic Reubens, piled high with corned beef, swiss cheese, sauerkraut (got have them healthy veggies) and deli mustard.
      ===============================
      Missing something”

      I would rather shoot myself than contaminate my Reubens with Russian dressing.

    871. jason says:

      I find the idea that Biden still has 37% approval profoundly depressing.

    872. jason says:

      Shark Week starts Sunday with the Rock as MC.

    873. EML says:

      I would rather shoot myself than contaminate my Reubens with Russian dressing
      =============================
      Russian dressing is necessary. But I will admit, I was hoping I could trap you into saying thousand island.

    874. jason says:

      According to his doctor, the President of the United States was a good boy and cleaned his plate.

      “Biden “ate his breakfast and lunch fully. He actually showed me his plate!”

    875. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Anyone surprised?

      Alex Berenson
      Jul 21
      “mRNA vaccine advocates have one final defense against the failure of their billion-person experiment.

      Okay, the shots won’t stop you from getting Covid. Or spreading it. Or having symptoms.

      But they will stop you from getting very sick, and that protection lasts long after they stop working against infection.

      Only it doesn’t.

      Not against Omicron, anyway. And Omicron is only variant that matters now, since it’s the only variant that exists now.

      An official government report from the Netherlands earlier this month has the truth.

      On July 5, the RIVM – a research institute that is part of the Dutch Ministry of Health – reported a basic two-dose Covid vaccination offered no protection against Covid hospitalization. Worse, vaccinated people were 20 percent more likely to need intensive care than the unvaccinated.

      “There was hardly any visible protective effect of the COVID-19 basic vaccination series against hospital and ICU – intensive care- intake,” the researchers wrote (understating the case).”

    876. jason says:

      I don’t like thousand island either.

    877. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Unlike Fauci, Dr. Birx refuses to continue to be part of the cover-up:

      DR. BIRX: I knew these vaccines were not going to protect against infection. And I think we overplayed the vaccines, and it made people then worry that it’s not going to protect against severe disease and hospitalization. It will. But let’s be very clear: 50% of the people who died from the Omicron surge were older, vaccinated. So that’s why I’m saying even if you’re vaccinated and boosted, if you’re unvaccinated right now, the key is testing and Paxlovid. It’s effective. It’s a great antiviral. And really, that is what’s going to save your lives right now if you’re over 70, which if you look at the hospitalizations, hospitalizations are rising steadily with new admissions, particularly in those over 70″

    878. EML says:

      Well it seems I have earned myself a temp ban from RRH for not being enough of a NeverTrumper. Here I’m a Liz Cheney Republican, there I am MTG. I can’t win.

    879. jason says:

      I wouldn’t last 5 minutes at RRH.

    880. Gordon Allen says:

      DeSantis totally lit into Biden last night across the Board.
      He has a punchy and talented speech writer for sure.
      UNH primary poll in NH: DeSantis 39- Trump 37

    881. jason says:

      Wasn’t Trump ahead by more in the last UNH poll?

      It shows Trump is gaining and DeSantis is cratering?

    882. jason says:

      I don’t really know if that is true and it it is not relevant but I love the smell of triggered TDS morons in the morning.

    883. jason says:

      I need more coffee and bacon (bacon, according to the pig farmers of America, enhances brain activity).

      I meant to say wasn’t DeSantis ahead by more in the last UNH poll.

      Oh well, that didn’t work out but at least I will trigger the pork TDS moron in the morning.

    884. jason says:

      I am sure all the “our only real enemy is China” idiots here will be supporting Nancy Pelosi’s trip to China.

      I will.

      “Biden administration officials are concerned that China could seek to declare a no-fly zone over Taiwan ahead of a possible visit by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as an effort to upend the trip, potentially raising tensions even further in the region, a US official told CNN.

      China could also respond by flying fighter jets further into Taiwan’s self-declared air defense zone, which could trigger a response from Taiwan and the US, the official added. They did not detail what a possible response would entail.

      To her credit, Pelosi has so far refused to back down.

      “It’s important for us to show support for Taiwan,” she said. “None of us have ever said we’re for independence when it comes to Taiwan. That’s up to Taiwan to decide.”…

      “I don’t always agree with her, but on this one I applaud it,” Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas, the top Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said in an interview. “It’s important that we show up in Taiwan and demonstrate to China that we are supportive. That’s a very strong statement for a speaker to go to Taiwan.”

    885. jason says:

      I especially like Pelosi’s statement that:

      “It’s important for us to show support for Taiwan,” she said. “None of us have ever said we’re for independence when it comes to Taiwan. That’s up to Taiwan to decide.”

      It’s up to Taiwan do decide?

      Excellent.

    886. Bitterlaw says:

      If somebody would vote for DeSantis in the primary but would vote for Trump or DeSantis if they get the nomination in the General Election, is that a variant of TDS?

    887. jason says:

      No. The TDS morons are compelled to tear down Trump and parrot MSM talking points in order to promote DeSantis. TDS morons think DeSantis automatically inherits or is “entitled” to Trump’s base or even worse, don’t think DeSantis needs it to win.

      And TDS is like pregnancy. You either are or you are not. There are no “variants”.

    888. jason says:

      Bitter, don’t worry, you don’t have TDS.

      You haven’t begun to parrot MSM talking points about Trump as a way of building up DeSantis.

      Your objections to Trump are well documented and predate DeSantis. As are mine

      This diagnosis is free. I will have to charge for the next one.

    889. jason says:

      I missed National Hotdog Day on July 20th?

      https://twitter.com/c_rmartinez/status/1549824458147381254

    890. jason says:

      KAMALA HARRIS: “You fight it in the courts, but you also gotta fight it in the streets”

      Insurrection?

    891. Cash Cow TM says:

      “I would rather shoot myself than contaminate my Reubens with Russian dressing.”

      Now, we call that Kosack dressing at my house.
      Ruebens are good with “surrender fries” (FNA French)

      And thousand island dressing is officially named the “salad dressing on the U.S./Canada border in the St. Lawrence seaway.”

    892. Gordon Allen says:

      If Pelosi doesn’t scare China off, I have a practical suggestion:
      Our visible “freedom of Navigation” exercises through the South China Sea consist of surface ships, which don’t particularly frighten China as they’re vulnerable if the bell rings.
      Although China likely guesses that we run Submarines through too, what about announcing we will permanently assign SSN’s to the Straits, and randomly surface one for visible presence purposes.

    893. Gordon Allen says:

      For an amphibious attack on Taiwan, the immediately most threatening thing would be the certain presence of US Submarines nearby, especially the Virginia Class ones, which are virtually undetectable, and carry torpedoes and cruise missiles which can make a lot of Chinese troops become “swimmers’ fast, and attack the docks/piers from which they sail.
      This keeps these weapons in our own hands, and are real deterrents, as opposed to a bunch of band aid short range Stingers and Javelins of no real use against a Naval Assault.
      Increasing the number of US aircraft in the Western Pacific, and committing to having at least one Carrier Battle Group nearby always would also be extremely helpful,
      If necessary I would alter rotations, including transferring assets from the Atlantic or Med to make sure we have meaningful forces promptly available.
      A stitch in time saves nine as the saying goes. Waiting for an attack first, or after an unambiguous buildup by China, before our own is too late.
      This would probably top Pelosi in effectiveness.

    894. Phil says:

      Sadly, Biden and his puppet masters won’t sign off on any of that, Gordon. I wouldn’t be surprised if once Jinping secures his third term at the party conference this fall China doesn’t move on Taiwan. Biden creates a window that the Chinese are no doubt tempted to exploit. Their only hesitation may be the state of their current economy with the lockdowns and such. The fact that they aren’t worried about the US with Joe at the helm may be just too tempting to bypass.

    895. EML says:

      Trafalgar generic ballot
      48R
      40D

    896. Tgca says:

      The NY Post says Trump is unfit for office in 2024.

      Oh no! If he runs again, that’s gonna cost him votes in NYC me thinks, as well as Lizzie and Robbie refusing to vote for him.

      Trump is F*CKED!!!

      Their rationale is:

      As his followers stormed the Capitol, calling on his vice president to be hanged, President Donald Trump sat in his private dining room, watching TV, doing nothing. For three hours, seven minutes.

      https://nypost.com/2022/07/22/trumps-jan-6-silence-renders-him-unworthy-for-2024-reelection/

    897. Tgca says:

      Another vile disgusting tranny pedophile. This time from the Sewer State. Imagine that.

      Used his own 7 year-old daughter to make tranny porn films and exposed her to sick situations and exploited her.

      He’s been moved to a woman’s prison and is referred to as the mother of the child and “her” pronouns by the MSM. NORMAL!

      Here’s hoping a bunch of women lifers in the prison go all Jeffrey Dahmer on this scum.

      https://reduxx.info/sadistic-pedophile-who-used-his-7-year-old-daughter-to-make-transgender-porn-quietly-moved-to-womens-prison-in-new-jersey/

    898. jason says:

      If Pelosi doesn’t scare China off, I have a practical suggestion”

      Moot.

      Who wouldn’t Pelosi scare off?

    899. Robbie says:

      Patrick Marley
      @patrickdmarley
      Trump endorsed Tim Michels for governor after ranting about another candidate’s teen daughter attending homecoming with the son of a Wisconsin Supreme Court justice who ruled against Trump — via
      @DanielBice

      – This is a good reason to endorse a candidate and not the actions of a lunatic, right?

    900. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      July 23, 2022 at 3:35 pm
      The NY Post says Trump is unfit for office in 2024.

      Oh no! If he runs again, that’s gonna cost him votes in NYC me thinks, as well as Lizzie and Robbie refusing to vote for him.

      – What it shows is Rupert Murdoch has turned against MAGA daddy because an editorial like that wouldn’t appear in a Murdoch owned paper without his blessing.

    901. Gordon Allen says:

      The NY Post is very conservative.
      If they’ve turned on Trump, which I don’t know to be true,that’s a big deal.
      We have,and most people we know have too.
      We’d still vote for him against a Democrat in 2024,but that doesn’t say much.

    902. Gordon Allen says:

      Phil: that’s why I worry about Taiwan. Xi knows his window of opportunity may be closing; a weak economy is another reason to do so to regather public support.
      But a DeSantis, or a Trump, closes that out.
      We need much more focus there,as opposed to regaining the Donets for Zelensky. But Biden is more compromised w China,a real problem.

    903. Phil says:

      Gordon, you could be right about a weak economy actually being an incentive toward invasion to take away attention from the down economy. I agree completely that a Trump or DeSantis takes invasion off the table. Xi has a two and a half year window to invade Taiwan if he wants to do it. It makes for a dangerous next two years for sure.

    904. EML says:

      How’s your thunderstorm, Walt? Power went out here for a second, but back in business. About a 12-15 temp drop for me.

    905. EML says:

      Bitter, rank these top 5 most hated cities for Philadelphians:

      Boston
      Pittsburgh
      Washington
      New York
      Bawdimore

    906. Cash Cow TM says:

      “EML says:
      July 23, 2022 at 6:53 pm
      How’s your thunderstorm, Walt? Power went out here for a second, but back in business. About a 12-15 temp drop for me.”

      Lot of wind, not much rain.
      Power did go out for a brief time.

      Cooled things off here as well.
      *****************************************
      Where you live, EML?

    907. Gordon Allen says:

      Phil. Taiwan is only 6% the size of the Ukraine. Even Putin’s 190,000 super heroes would be much more than sufficient than needed to overcome it; far fewer in fact. Therefore the Chinese must be stopped in the Air and particularly the Sea BEFORE significant Chinese troops land; it doesn’t have the absorption ability Ukraine did.
      This plays to our strength, mainly our Navy and Air Force( assuming they’re not previously engaged in woke exercises somewhere). but they have to be there, not thousands of miles away. Starting soon.

    908. EML says:

      Where you live, EML?
      =====================
      We are FB friends. Take I-81 roughly 4 hours and 15 minutes north and you will be at my house. The line of thunderstorms came through at the same time.

    909. Phil says:

      Yeah, they’d have to be there, Gordon. Sadly, zero chance under a Democratic administration there is any chance of that happening. Taiwan is doomed if the Chinese military gets the go ahead.

    910. EML says:

      Second round of rain for me now.

    911. EML says:

      Went from 92 to 72 in the past hour and a half

    912. EML says:

      Pelosi’s investment notwithstanding, Taiwan has an outsized semiconductor industry that we need to get out from. Luckily, upstate NY is becoming a world leader in semiconductor manufacturing. We just need more investment.

    913. Cash Cow TM says:

      EML,

      temps dropped from 95 to 70 here.

    914. EML says:

      USA women 4×100 world champions

    915. Wes says:

      Well, I guess even the Biden Justice Department realized going easy on loons who outright try to kill sitting Congressmen is probably not good for public consumption:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/23/politics/zeldin-suspected-attacker-federal-assault-charge/index.html

    916. Tgca says:

      The CDC reports two unrelated children on opposite sides of US, an infant and a toddler, have contracted Monkey Pox that are both linked to households with gay men.

      This is ironic.

      Many in the gay community strongly supported denying people basic rights because they were not COVID vaxed due to concerns of them transmitting COVID to gay men, especially to those with compromised immune systems but now the shoe may be on the other foot, and I suspect many people will undoubtedly call for requiring Monkey Pox vax status from gay men having regular contact with children through their profession given that in the US the CDC just reported that 99% of the known 3,000 US cases are gay/bi/trans men and two toddlers now appear to have been infected through contact with gay men.

      Will gay men object to such fear-mongering? Will they accept that some will believe this is justifiable for the good of protecting society like many argued about COVID vax requirements?

      I fear this stigma can become like the early days of AIDS all over again, only the case for transmission due to casual contact is real and scientifically known and not just based on bigotry, ignorance, and fear, as was the case with HIV transmission risks.

      Will parents be concerned about gay teachers, healthcare workers, food servers, hairdressers, etc attending to their kids without knowing their Monkey Pox vax status?

      I expect histrionics from both sides to hit the press soon with this latest information from the CDC and given how non-vaccinated COVID people were treated by many on the left.

      https://www.breitbart.com/health/2022/07/23/monkeypox-strikes-two-children-on-opposite-coasts-of-u-s/

    917. Phil says:

      Should be interesting to see if the Biden Justice Dept tries to indict Trump. If they do I think all hell will break loose in this country.

      Joe Biden. The great unifier.

    918. Tgca says:

      939

      If Biden’s DOJ indicts Trump, then they open the door for the indictments of Biden staff on any trivial charges, and of course they exist because you can find them in any administration.

      Do they want to go the Harry Reid direction? Look how that worked out.

      It also almost guarantees Garland and/or Mayorkas will be impeached. Does Garland really want to finish an otherwise distinguished career in law with an asterisk next to his tenure simply to be the radical left’s lapdog?

    919. Tgca says:

      This is sooooooo SWEET!!!

      Baltimore’s corrupt prosecutor Mosby who has been indicted related to fraud and perjury has been defeated in the primary for prosecutor.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/marilyn-mosby-loses-in-baltimore/

    920. jason says:

      The NY Post is very conservative.
      If they’ve turned on Trump, which I don’t know to be true,that’s a big deal.”

      Very conservative is a stretch. And they were never big Trump fans, their most famous columnist John Podoretz is a rabid Never Trumper moron.

      And of course Fox News (the news portion) never did support Trump. Their round table in 2016 almost collectively cried when Hillary lost. Their anchors have mostly been Never Trumpers. Meghan Kelly, Brett Baier, Martha McCollum, Gretchen Carlson, Shepard Smith, etc were all Never Trumpers
      .
      The pro-Trump part of Fox is/was commentary Bill O’Reilly, Hannity, Ingram, Tucker and more recently Gutfield. Fox and Friends.

    921. Bitterlaw says:

      Setting the precedent of each Administration prosecuting the prior Administration would be a disaster. Are we going to “Cromwell” past Presidents by digging them up and putting them on trial.

    922. jason says:

      Setting the precedent of each Administration prosecuting the prior Administration would be a disaster.”

      Damm, Bitter wants to bite the hand that feeds his fellow lawyers?

      Let’s indict Clinton and Obama for all their crimes too. And members of their administration.

      Get in early, Bitter, to partake in the feast.

    923. Tgca says:

      943

      The answer to your question is YES!!!

      Biden, Pelosi, Schumer and friends don’t care. They have TDS like some posters here so whatever they need to do to stop Trump is all that matters.

      Screw the Constitution and what’s best for the country.

    924. jason says:

      1 in 10 Americans never heard of Jill Biden.

      “CNN poll had already finished fielding as Jill Biden’s string of not-so-great news broke. Over the course of a month-long survey, 34 percent rated their opinion of the first lady as favorable, 29 percent said it was unfavorable, 28 percent had no opinion, and 9 percent said they never heard of her. Previous CNN polling showed significantly more Americans holding a favorable rather than unfavorable view of the first lady — by about 2 to 1 in January 2021, at the start of Biden’s presidency”

    925. Tgca says:

      With 99% of Monkey Pox among gay men and spreading, per the CDC, I’m waiting for the MSM to ask Mayor Butt if he’s been vaccinated and whether all high risks groups like gay men should be vaccinated to protect the disease from spreading to the general public.

      That would be sweet to watch the HYPOCRITE and the MSM and radical libs freak out over a fair question given their position on the need for COVID vax to protect the general public.

      Remember, Monkey Pox is not just about YOU, it’s about us all!!!

    926. Tgca says:

      947

      Don’t be STOOPID you vile meat eater!

      Of course they heard of Jill Biden…they just know her as DR. JILL!!!

      …and mind you she’s an “amazing doctor” who a certain host on The View suggested should be Surgeon General to the applause of their intellectual audience.

    927. Wes says:

      Mmmmm…Meat.

      That makes me realize it’s lunchtime. I’m thinking about trying the new steakhouse that opened a few miles from where I live.

      Thanks, Tg.

    928. Wobbles says:

      All the GOP candidates are turds.

      If any of them win, it will be despite Trump.

      If any of them lose, it will be because of Trump.

      All the Dem candidates are stellar rock stars.

      If any of them win, it will be because of Trump.

      If any of them lose, it will be because of the political climate not favoring Dems.

      I want get my predictions in early.

    929. Tgca says:

      950. Wes

      Enjoy you…you…you animal eater.

      Hope your food server is gay!

    930. jason says:

      I am grilling some baby back rib racks for lunch, just put them on at low heat. I am thinking about some brats as a side. It is hot as hell outside so I am not making a big production.

    931. Wes says:

      I don’t care if my server is gay or the rest of the letters in LGBTQhashtagupdownleftrightabcdKeylimepie, Tg. As long as I get good, attentive service, I’ll leave a generous tip.

    932. Tgca says:

      954

      Hmmm…

      You want a little Monkey Pox to go with your meal?

    933. Wes says:

      Well, I got a smallpox vaccination when I was younger, so I’m willing to bet I have little to worry about from monkey pox, Tg.

    934. Tgca says:

      953

      Jadon has moved from meat to cannibalism now? Must be because of all that Pootin inflation making meat unaffordable.

      Well, I guess if you gotta go all cannibal, mind as well start with the rotten kids. They won’t be missed.

    935. Wes says:

      Well, Tg, I’m off to have a lunch filled consisting most of some succulent piece of rare-cooked meat.

      Have a good day.

    936. jason says:

      Tgca, you would go crazy over at Stoltzfus Meats in Intercourse.

      You haven’t lived until you have tried the pig stomach.

      Check out the SHOP NOW and take a look at the Scrapple and Specialty Items. You will never look at desiccated tree bark again.

      https://www.stoltzfusmeats.com/products/pig-stomach

    937. MichiganGuy says:

      The mortality rate is higher among those that have received the vaccines than those who have not. Imagine that.

      https://twitter.com/America1Scotty/status/1551113516958027777?s=20&t=aHhHqJaDGLDgYkIR6U44iw

    938. Tgca says:

      956

      Ummm…Small Pox vax is about 85% effective for Monkey Pox and that is generally within the 1st 5 years of vax as the protection wanes significantly over decades.

      The reason they don’t have mass Small Pox vax anymore is because it was considered eradicated.

      This changes everything, and the reason for the current vax shortage.

      You do not think many of these gay men getting Monkey Pox were not previously vaxed with Small Pox as well?

      This is a highly contagious disease that you can get by touch, including fabrics, linens, and other surfaces.

      It won’t kill most but it’s very painful and requires about a month to recover, and can be spread even before symptoms arise.

    939. Tgca says:

      960. MG

      Have you run this by Dr. Fow-chee yet? He may be able to explain it away and why everyone needs to have him on talk shows to explain why and extend his 15 minutes of fame another 2 years.

      …and he hasn’t even gotten started on the Monkey Pox talking points yet.

    940. EML says:

      Now that it is clear that overturning Roe didn’t move the needle and is not the savior that Democrats hoped for, they are moving on to the next thing that they think can save them from annihilation in November. This time, it’s if Trump announces that he is running in 2024 before the midterms.

      https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/what-could-save-democrats-midterm-catastrophe

    941. Tgca says:

      Having an increased amount of breathing difficulty today so I took COVID test and it’s negative but I will test 14 more times today just to make sure.

      Could be acid reflux symptoms or spasms from nerves, as doctors have told me is the likely cause for people with nerve damage when lung tests show all else is fine, as mine have.

      Good thing I just updated my will, as a select few people at HHR will be happy to know.

    942. jason says:

      You shouldn’t have….

      So how much do I get?

    943. Tgca says:

      So now skank Liz Cheney wants Clarence Thomas’ wife to come before J6C and is considering a subpoena, if she doesn’t come willingly.

      Let’s be REAL! This is simply a ploy to try and force Thomas to recuse himself against any future Trump or 2020 election cases that come before SCOTUS.

      My guess they are hoping with Thomas out of the way, Roberts will vote with the libs and deny Trump or 2020 fraud cases from any beneficial decision with a split vote which means it has no real authoritative power.

      https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/07/24/liz-cheney-january-6-probe-contemplating-subpoena-for-ginni-thomas/

    944. jason says:

      Could be acid reflux symptoms or spasms from nerves”

      Or it could be your unhealthy diet.

      Go to Whole Foods and buy yourself a steak from a free range humanely raised and euthanized grass fed Black Angus steer processed in a fair wage certified woke facility.

      Yes, it will cost 4 times more and not taste as good as a regular steak but this is an emergency.

      Fry up the steak in lots of butter, medium rare to rare and eat it plain without any green contaminants.

      You will breathe easier.

    945. Robbie says:

      Mediaite
      @Mediaite
      GOP Insiders Reportedly Sounding ‘Code Red,’ Fearing JD Vance is Blowing the Ohio Senate Race: ‘Worst Campaign’ You Could Possibly Run

      https://t.co/nm6gPUYnG1

      – I find it hard to believe Vance will lose or the race will end up within five points or less, but he’s another “not ready for primetime” Trump candidate.

    946. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Robbie is getting more pathetic in above #968. Mediate is a Leftie news blog which uses information from the ultimate Leftie online newspaper, “The Daily Beast” in the article.
      One Republican is quoted in the whole Mediate article.
      Of course, Robbie has not repled to my question to him in #938.

    947. Tina says:

      Didn’t we have a code red by the Russian hoaxer in 2016?

    948. Tina says:

      While the gop-e sleeps, the Biden admin to redefine definition of a recession.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1551251988201062401?cxt=HHwWgoC-ndzdk4crAAAA

    949. Tina says:

      I feel much better. Got some sleep that I missed the first two nights,

      Hit the plague with kitchen and the sink.

      My vitamin cocktail included, multi vitamin, vitamins c and d, zinc, and querecetin.

      My symptoms were the cough, runny nose, and scratchy throat.

    950. EML says:

      Or it could be your unhealthy diet.
      ============================
      Bingo

    951. Bitterlaw says:

      Tina is back! RINOs hardest hit.

      Good to see you back and glad you are feeling better. On Friday, I had a dry cough and scratchy throat. Felt the same yesterday. I chose not to take the COVID test we have in the house and did nothing to treat the symptoms. I am feeling much better today.

    952. EML says:

      Trump dominates 2024 GOP presidential nomination straw poll at Turning Point USA summit

      Donald Trump – 78.7%
      Ron DeSantis – 19%

    953. EML says:

      2024 TPUSA GOP Primary Straw Poll

      w/o Trump:
      Ron DeSantis – 87%
      Donald Trump Jr – 6%
      Ted Cruz – 2%
      Kristi Noem – 1.5%
      Mike Pompeo – 1%
      Glen Youngkin – 1%
      Mike Pence – 0.5%

    954. EML says:

      RCP Approval Average on July 24

      2010 – President Obama (-1.6)
      Approve 46.2%
      Disapprove 47.8%

      2014 – President Obama (-10)
      Approve 42.6%
      Disapprove 52.6%

      2018 – President Trump (-9.1)
      Approve 43.5%
      Disapprove 52.6%

      2022 – President Biden (-19.9)
      Approve 37.2%
      Disapprove 57.1%

    955. EML says:

      RCP Generic Ballot Average on July 24

      2010:
      Republicans 44.8% (+3.1)
      Democrats 41.7%

      2014:
      Democrats 42.2% (+1.4)
      Republicans 40.8%

      2018:
      Democrats 46.8% (+7.1)
      Republicans 39.7%

      2022:
      Republicans 44.9% (+2.5)
      Democrats 42.4%

    956. Tgca says:

      So now we have frog and bug pronouns for people identifying with them.

      This is about mental illness and not diversity and gender identification.

      If the Dems do get an ABORTION bill passed that includes the procedure up to and until after birth, can we use it on these STOOPID YOOTS too?

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/this-democrat-uses-frog-and-bug-pronouns/

    957. Tgca says:

      967

      I will EDUMACATE the IGORENT on acid reflux and diet.

      My acid reflux I’ve had since my 20s when my diet consisted of mainly chicken, lean beef, eggs, and other selected dairy with fruits and veggies so that shoots your theory out of the water.

      In fact, tofu and soy milk are often prescribe as substitutes because they reduce acid reflux symptoms with their neutral PH while fatty foods and red meat increase acid reflux with their inflammatory and low PH.

      Acid reflux is a medical condition that CAN be caused alone by certain excessive foods but often it’s a chemistry issue in the body and certain foods can irritate it significantly.

      Unlike many, my acid reflux does not cause me indigestion or pain. Mine is too much acid produced that rises in the esophagus and irritates it and causes inflammation of the esophagus and nerve spasms that mimic breathing issues.

      In fact, more often than not, my acid reflux is more apt to kick in with liquid, especially when I drink large quantities of water because water tends to cause acid to rise in the esophagus before food causes acids to rise.

      Red meats are generally not good for acid reflux as well with their high protein and fat content combination and chicken and seafood is preferred source of protein for acid reflux sufferers.

      Top foods causing acid reflux include:

      Tomatoes
      Dairy
      Red meat and high protein dishes
      Starchy foods
      Nuts
      Citrus fruits
      Pineapple
      Caffeine
      Alcohol
      Carbonated beverages
      Chocolate
      Mint
      Garlic
      Spicy dishes
      Fried or greasy food

    958. Tgca says:

      The vile disgusting meat eater and the Liz Cheney Republican have been schooled by The EXPERT and are now EDUMACATED on acid reflux disease 101. Not sure they’re ready for the advanced schooling yet.

      See what happens when people never study science? They spew nonsense like the world is flat or a 100 pounds of feathers are heavier than a 100 pounds of rocks or eat red meat to reduce acid reflux.

      That’s like telling people to smoke cigarettes to combat emphysema.

    959. EML says:

      Humans are top of the food chain carnivores. Your body is rejecting your ridiculous diet. Be normal.

    960. Tgca says:

      My biggest weakness managing additional irritation of my acid reflux is cheese, pineapple, garlic, and spicy foods.

      Really? How can you expect us Latinos to NOT eat tacos. It’s in our blood and no taco is worth eating without hot sauce.

      I guess my non-Latino white genes are more dominant in producing acid in my body since Caucasians are more likely to suffer acid reflux than AA or Asians.

      If only I had more than 13% African genes.

      I blame my parents!

    961. Tgca says:

      982

      Clearly, Lizzie knows as much about science and food as he does Hispanics.

      Keep preaching your IGORENCE.

      We can now add to the list of your traits:

      Science Denier
      TDS Mental Disorder
      Delusions of Grandeur Narcissist
      Math Ignoramus
      Hispanic Bigot
      Catholic Bigot
      Homophobe
      Meteorology Ignoramus
      Florida Demographics and Geography Ignoramus

      I’m sure I missed a few too.

    962. EML says:

      As everyone knows, I am a far better Hispanic than the HAG. What kind of Hispanic can’t handle a little cheese or a little spice? Tonight, the EML household (well the adults anyway) are going with a long time favorite recipe: https://www.skinnytaste.com/chicken-panini-with-arugula-provolone/

      Provolone cheese + chipotles in adobo would likely kill tgca. We get these little ciabatta rolls from Wegmans (the greatest grocery store in the world — not available in the hellscape of Florida) and then are pairing it with a homemade spinach/ricotta/gruyere quiche that though while vegetarian has too much cheese for tgca’s sensitive stomach. The wife also can’t handle spice, but I always top my quiche with a generous portion of non-tgca-approved sriracha.

    963. Bitterlaw says:

      A battle over who is more Hispanic? Sunday fights are usually second tier.

    964. EML says:

      Last year’s Tour de France runner up, 25 year old Dane Jonas Vingegaard held off last year’s winner, 23 year old Slovene Tadej Pogacar to win the 2022 edition of the race. These 2 are likely to compete for thr maillot jeune for the next few years, although several young Americans did surprisingly well: Neilson Prowess, Sepp Kuss, Brandon McNulty, and Matteo Jorgenson all ended up in the top 30.

    965. EML says:

      Pretty embarrassing to be out-Hispaniced by someone who is (according to ancestry):

      40% Eastern European/Russian
      26% Scotland
      21% England
      6% Denmark/Sweden
      5% Baltics
      1% Jewish
      1% Balkan

    966. EML says:

      Even the wokeists at espn have an article up about food inflation at ballparks. And Democrats think they have a chance at holding the senate in November? Not a chance.

    967. EML says:

      Single handedly powering us to 1000

    968. EML says:

      Ron DeSantis has done an incredible job of turning Florida’s long time Democratic registration advantage into a Republican advantage.

    969. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 24, 2022 at 10:45 am
      This will trigger 50 posts by Amoral Scumbag about “bad” GOP candidates.

      https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/07/24/prepare-for-that-red-wave-the-latest-numbers-say-its-coming-and-its-big-n600695

      – Sorry to disappoint, but I think Republicans are going to do extremely well in the House races. It will be a wave election. House races always move in tandem with the generic ballot.

      The Senate is different, though, as we saw in 2010. Those races are much more about individual candidates and less about national politics. That’s how Republicans in the Senate survived 2018. Good candidates and a favorable map.

    970. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      July 24, 2022 at 9:40 am
      Robbie, Robbie, Robbie–are you on alert for an emotional breakdown:

      – Brit Hume’s entitled to his view. I disagree with him, but has Brit ever retracted his comments that the January 6th riots were caused by Antifa and other Democrat groups?

    971. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      July 24, 2022 at 1:39 pm
      Robbie is getting more pathetic in above #968.

      – I get it. You absolutely worship the ground on which Trump walks, but several of the candidates he’s backed in must-win races are just duds.

      Oz sucks. He’s a pro-abortion liberal who Donnie picked simply because he was on TV.

      Walker is a just a bad candidate who really had no business running.

      Masters is a libertarian weirdo who’s just as likely to vote with Democrats some issues as he is with Republicans.

      I know it triggers you to hear things you don’t like, but too darn bad.

    972. Robbie says:

      Tina says:
      July 24, 2022 at 1:58 pm
      Didn’t we have a code red by the Russian hoaxer in 2016?

      – Got any good Jim Hoft Gateway Pundit conspiracy theories you want to puke up here? How’s your guy Putin doing in his war with Ukraine?

      Also, which troll farm actually uses your name? You sometimes post under Tina and other times under Tima. I guess the guys who run your name don’t always notice the mistake since English isn’t their first language.

    973. EML says:

      The Senate is different, though, as we saw in 2010.
      =?=================
      History has shown that the Senate elections closely track the House elections. 2010 is a terrible example to use. Republicans pretty much ran the table. Christine O’Donnell is an especially bad example because the senate election tracked the House election. Mike Castle was just an exceptional candidate. Other than that, Sharron Angle lost to an institution in Harry Reid and Michael Bennet edged out Ken Buck. Otherwise, Rs won Arkansas, Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio.

      You seem to be mostly leaning on Delaware where a liberal Republican who could’ve won in a liberal state lost a primary. The 2022 landscape is not the same. Everything is sorted now. As I’ve said before, I think Republicans run the table in 2022, it’s a matter of whether or not these candidates can hold on in 2028.

    974. Phil says:

      Lake and Masters have sewn up the nominations in Arizona. Now on to November we go.

    975. Tina says:

      The Russian hoaxer will attack lake and masters.

      Just wait,

    976. Phil says:

      That’s a given, Tina.

    977. jason says:

      Red meats are generally not good for acid reflux”

      I never had acid reflux.

      Tgca eats tree bark and tofu and has acid reflux.

      I rest my case.

    978. jason says:

      Got any good Jim Hoft Gateway Pundit conspiracy theories you want to puke up here? ”

      Hilarious from someone who only pukes far left talking points from CNN, DKos and MSNBC.

    979. jason says:

      Oz sucks. He’s a pro-abortion liberal who Donnie picked simply because he was on TV.

      Walker is a just a bad candidate who really had no business running.

      Masters is a libertarian”

      All lies.

      The only problem Amoral Scumbag actually has with any of them is that they on the ballot.

    980. jason says:

      KAMALA HARRIS: “Women are getting pregnant every day in America, and this is a real issue.”

    981. Bitterlaw says:

      Stop fighting. It’s Shark Week!

    982. jason says:

      Trump dominates 2024 GOP presidential nomination straw poll at Turning Point USA summit

      Donald Trump – 78.7%
      Ron DeSantis – 19%”

      Heh, no wonder Amoral Scumbag is here shilling for Fetterman, Warnock and Kelly.

    983. Tgca says:

      985.

      Hey Lizzie:

      You’re not more Hispanic. You’re just more of a bigot! …and I mean that seriously based on your condescending posts to various groups.

      You have an opinion of what people should be and put them in boxes as if they ALL think and behave alike because that’s the way you see the world. Probably not your direct fault but instead a product of where you grew up and how your parents raised you.

      You posts often sound like the Dems that try to pander to minorities but not really knowing much about them so it backfires and you don’t see it.

      You sound like Jill Biden with your comments and any HR department would be concerned about someone like you with respect to your communication.

      You remind me of the guy that would invite one of his black co-workers to a party and tell them there will be fried chicken and watermelon thinking that’s an enticement and way to bond.

      Though there are certain truths to stereotypes, you seem to live by the stereotypes alone. That’s why we mock you for it. That’s how people generally handle IGORENT bigots, through mockery.

      Your bigotry against Latinos, Catholics, and gays is astounding, as has been pointed out by others.

    984. Tgca says:

      985

      Oh…and further Lizzie…

      …for the record, not all Hispanic food is spicy. It’s depends on the specific ethnicity and country of origin and available food sources. But again, I bet you think people from Mexico, Spain, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Chile, Ecuador, and Brazil are all alike and share the same cultural diet.

      …and because you’re further an IGORENT bigot, Hispanics have a high percentage of acid reflux disease as well. In fact, higher than AA, Asian, and various other Caucasian groups.

      I guess you would not know that though because you’ve probably never been to a Hispanic neighborhood or one’s house to understand their culture as you assume they all eat spicy food which couldn’t be further from the truth.

    985. Gordon Allen says:

      In a “wave” election the close Senate seats will strongly tilt Republican at the end. If it’s not a wave election, they won’t. Duh.
      In 1980 Reagan carried the GOP to a Senate majority with a bunch of terrible candidates. Who got swept out in 1986 even when Reagan was very popular.

    986. jason says:

      Oz and Walker were the best of the available candidates.

      I preferred Timken in OH but Vance is a solid candidate.

      I prefer Brnovich in AZ but he is not going to win the nomination, so there is no point attacking Masters, the choice is him or Kelly.

    987. jason says:

      Rubio calls it like it is.

      “As long as the country is in the hands of Marxist crazies and laptop liberals that work at home in their pajamas, as long as the Democratic Party is controlled by them the only thing they can produce are incompetent leaders that will lead us into crisis after crisis.”

    988. Tgca says:

      I just don’t know how you respond to these selfish, clueless gay men spreading an infectious disease and then blaming the gubbermint for neither being prepared for it nor having resources and meds to make it magically disappear.

      This 40 year-old dude that works in sexual and reproductive health and rights admits to having sex with SEVERAL men over pride weekend and then starts feeling ill and tests positive for not only Monkey Pox but gonorrhea too.

      He suffered immense pain with sores all over his body, stating at one point having about 50 of them and having difficulty with bowel movements due to the anal sores.

      I don’t understand why someone who works in sexual health and awareness can be so careless in his personal life.

      This is not about judgment but about calling him on his reckless behavior and spreading diseases and then blaming the gubbermint for it.

      So tired of the irresponsibility of many gay men. Monkey Pox would not be an emerging issue if these gay men spreading it were not so promiscuous, reckless, and irresponsible.

      No one wants to see anyone suffer but have a bit of self-respect and self-control.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/23/i-literally-screamed-out-loud-in-pain-my-two-weeks-of-monkeypox-hell

    989. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      According to the British, the Ukraine has begun it’s Kherson offensive.

      Glory to Ukraine.

      “United Kingdom government organization
      Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine – 23 July 2022

      (2/8) In the last 48 hours, heavy fighting has been taking place as Ukrainian forces have continued their offensive against Russian forces in Kherson Oblast, west of the River Dnipro.

      (3/8) Russia is likely attempting to slow the Ukrainian attack using artillery fire along the natural barrier of the Ingulets River, a tributary of the Dnipro.

      (4/8) Simultaneously, the supply lines of the Russian force west of the Dnipro are increasingly at risk.

      (5/8) Additional Ukrainian strikes have caused further damage to the key Antonivsky Bridge, though Russia has conducted temporary repairs. As of 22 July 2022, it was almost certainly open to some traffic.

      (6/8) It has not been possible to verify claims by Ukrainian officials that Russia is preparing to construct an alternative, military pontoon bridge across the Dnipro.

      (7/8) The Russian army prioritises maintaining its military bridging capability, but any attempt to construct a crossing of the Dnipro would be a very high risk operation.”

    990. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “@TimRunsHisMouth
      Two days ago Dr. Birx admitted that she, “…knew these vaccines were not going to protect against infection and I think we overplayed the vaccines …”

      So OF COURSE the corporate media is completely silent on this MASSIVE story exposing her and Fauci’s fraud.”

    991. EML says:

      House Republicans are targeting Democratic-held districts with sizable Hispanic populations, convinced that a shift in their voting preferences will help fuel a Republican wave for this year’s midterms.

      Why it matters: Democrats are statistically tied with Republicans among Hispanics on the generic congressional ballot, according to a New York Times-Siena College poll this week. Dems held a 47-point edge with Hispanics during the 2018 midterms.

      https://www.axios.com/2022/07/24/republicans-hispanic-voters-districts?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiossneakpeek&stream=top

      Tgca the Perpetual Liar calls this being bigoted lol

    992. Tgca says:

      1018

      I don’t call people describing a shift of Hispanic voters to the GOP in a midterm election due to a very unpopular president bigoted. I call YOU a bigot for repeatedly making stoopid comments about Hispanics that you THINK defines Hispanic people and how they think and behave and how the GOP should pander to them to get their vote because Hispanics are so naive and easily influenced by such pandering.

      …and we’re not even discussing your comments on Catholics and gays that raise to the level of vast ignorance of those groups as well.

      Got it Lizzy?

    993. jason says:

      Streiff makes the case for Trump. TDS morons will be triggered.

      “No one other than President Trump and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis are polling in double digits. Barring something unlikely, like President Trump being not merely indicted but convicted of a federal crime, that is unlikely to change. At best, this is a two-man race. If President Trump does declare his candidacy in the next couple of months, it might be a one-man race. (And no, I can’t imagine a set of facts that would persuade DeSantis to run second banana on a Trump-DeSantis ticket. Vice president isn’t a springboard to the presidency; it is the waiting room for political obscurity. If you eliminate the death or resignation of the president, George Bush was the first vice president to be elected in his own right since Martin Van Buren.)

      Bottom line: if President Trump wants the nomination in 2024, I think logic dictates that he wins. Given the damage the Democrats have inflicted upon the nation, there isn’t a Democrat with national stature who beats President Trump.

      This brings me back to 2016. People, like the New York Post, who are locking themselves into opposing a Trump 2024 candidacy are consigning themselves to residing in the Monkeypox Ward with the staff of the Lincoln Project. I’m not sure what purpose it serves to assume that you have sufficient power to determine which candidate a party will select–no media outlet in New York City has that power–and to place yourself in the position of having found one candidate so deficient that you will be forced to support the other.

      For the rest of us, I’m afraid we are returning to the economy seats on Flight 93 (read Michael Anton’s 2016 essay, The Flight 93 Election, for the reference). Just as in 2016, we will find the nation in crisis. Truth be told, the situation today is much more dire than in 2016. Literally, millions of illegal aliens will be residing in the United States by the time November 2024 rolls around. The economy will still be in crisis. Food and energy prices will still be high. We will probably be in the middle of hyperinflation and a housing market collapse. Our military will be a bunch of woke transgendered types with magenta hair mewling about “white rage” and other bullsh**. Racial bigotry will be taught in every school in the land. Just as in 2016, we will have to charge the cockpit to rescue the country from the political establishment of both parties and the media who would rather see the country burn down than be saved by the wrong man backed by the wrong type of people. This time, though, we know the guy we’re putting in the pilot’s seat is someone we know can land the plane, and he’s being opposed by people because they don’t like his style.”

    994. jason says:

      According to the British, the Ukraine has begun it’s Kherson offensive.

      Glory to Ukraine.”

      Too late.

      Neville Allen and his magazines have already surrendered it.

    995. jason says:

      “I call YOU a bigot for repeatedly making stoopid comments about Hispanics that you THINK defines Hispanic people and how they think and behave and how the GOP should pander to them to get their vote because Hispanics are so naive and easily influenced by such pandering.”

      I don’t think EML is a bigot.

      I think he is profoundly ignorant about Hispanics, which is different.

      His generalizations and characterizations of Hispanics are asinine, I agree, but I don’t think he hates Hispanics.

    996. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – I checked the radar. You are going to get severe thunderstorms in 2 hours. Make sure Lupita is safe. I will get the storms later.

    997. Phil says:

      We’d kill for a thunderstorm down here.

    998. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil- Jason knows a good rain ritual but the price is pretty steep. Do you happen to have 10 llamas or 2 virgins to sacrifice?

    999. Phil says:

      Lol Maybe could scrape up a llama from somewhere. Virgins in short supply down here.

    1000. Tgca says:

      1022

      I use bigot in the sense that he has an ignorant and unfounded belief in people because of some defining trait of them. That’s still bigotry.

      I don’t believe all racists or bigots are hateful and wish to harm people, as I believe people suffer from degrees of it but I believe Lizzy fits the definition of ignorant and unfounded beliefs in justifying what he believes people should be and condescendingly referring to them.

    1001. EML says:

      I’m curious as to what posts of mine you find bigoted. I’ll wait as you comb through my post history. All of the posts where you have called me bigoted in the past are posts where I am mocking YOU for your stupidity, not saying anything about Hispanics. You are too STUPID to understand when you are being mocked.

      There have been a lot of dumb posters here in the past, like Eric D*ndero and Proud Obamac*n, but you almost certainly take the prize for being the least intelligent person here. Can’t even tell when you are being mocked.

    1002. EML says:

      Tgca calls me a bigot for pointing out that Hispanic voters as a whole seem to be moving Republican.

      Mind you, there are literally hundreds of articles from both left and right saying that same thing.

      But I’m a bigot for it.

      I don’t see a bigot, but I do see an IDIOT.

    1003. EML says:

      Remington Poll
      2022 MO Senate Republican Primary:

      Eric Schmitt – 32%
      Vicky Hartzler – 25%
      Eric Greitens – 18%
      Billy Long – 8%
      Mark McCloskey – 4%
      Dave Schatz – 3%

    1004. Phil says:

      Schmitt or Hartzler close this one out in November. Won’t have to spend much on this race. Send the $$ to Ohio and get Vance off the dime.

    1005. Tina says:

      How much money will the Pedo Project donate to Loon Cheneys presidential run.

    1006. EML says:

      I think the handwriting is on the wall for MO and Trump will endorse Schmitt this week so he can claim victory.

    1007. Robbie says:

      I was just about to post the MO Senate poll, but I see others beat me to it.

      The lesson from that poll should be simple. Negative advertising still works.

      Republicans saw Greitens would be a problem and decided to spend to stop him when it would still matter.

      Too bad the RGA forgot about this with Mastriano and the NRSC forgot about this with Masters.

      The best way for the party to defend and increase its margins in the Senate is to get involved in primaries, when necessary.

      The NRSC got out of the business of backing candidates in 2010 because of Crist and Rubio. Fine, but that led to Angle, Buck, COD, Mourdock, Akin, and the rest. Five seats were booted away in just two cycles.

      Heading into 2024, there are 9 seats that could flip to Republicans. Let’s hope the NRSC learns the lesson that supporting/defending quality candidates is necessary.

    1008. jason says:

      Jason – I checked the radar. You are going to get severe thunderstorms in 2 hours. Make sure Lupita is safe. I will get the storms later.”

      I hope it happens, poor Lupita has nothing to graze on.

    1009. jason says:

      ike Eric D*ndero and Proud Obamac*n, but you almost certainly take the prize for being the least intelligent person here. Can’t even tell when you are being mocked.”

      Damm, glad Tgca is not an A-hole, we would need a semi to transport all the points.

    1010. jason says:

      et’s hope the NRSC learns the lesson that supporting/defending quality candidates is necessary.”

      Zzzzz…. what a crock of crap.

      Back to the “brokered convention” idiocy as usual.

      “Quality candidates”…….Jeb!

    1011. jason says:

      Too bad the RGA forgot about this with Mastriano”

      LOL

      Doug Mastriano 591,000 44%
      Lou Barletta 273,000 20%
      Bill McSwain 212,000 16%

      The country club Rs were going to waste money running ads against Mastriano?

      Amoral Scumbag is a clown

    1012. Robbie says:

      Red State or “Red Trump”? It should surprise no one that Streiff is making the case for Trump. The site became a Trump sounding board when Erick Erickson lost a power struggle and was forced out about six years ago.

      The more Trump backers make the case it needs to be Trump and only Trump, the more they’re telegraphing their concern he won’t be the nominee, or at least won’t get an unmolested run in the primary. And when they suggest DeSantis should possibly be Trump’s VP, they’re completely ignoring (maybe purposefully) the law that severely limits a ticket from the same state.

      The argument the Trump backers can’t answer and never address is why the party should once again turn to a twice impeached former president who can only serve one term and would be a lame duck from Day 1 rather than a successful two-term governor who can serve eight years and would represent a new generation of the party.

    1013. jason says:

      The best way for the party to defend and increase its margins in the Senate is to get involved in primaries, when necessary.”

      Who determines “when necessary”.

      Trolls like you?

    1014. jason says:

      to a twice impeached former president”

      For one, actual Rs and conservatives know the impeachments were bogus BS engineered by your heroes Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi.

    1015. jason says:

      Speaking of Greitens, should we do a welfare check on mnw?

      He is not as old as Walt, of course, or immortal like Walt, but he kinda disappeared suddenly.

    1016. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 25, 2022 at 11:42 am
      et’s hope the NRSC learns the lesson that supporting/defending quality candidates is necessary.”

      Zzzzz…. what a crock of crap.

      Back to the “brokered convention” idiocy as usual.

      – I know politics began with Trump as far as you’re concerned, but until 2010 the NRSC would recruit candidates and then provide them with financial backing in both the primary and general election.

      It was a major selling point for candidates who were worried they might get chewed up by the hard right and it generally worked. The NRSC under Cornyn backed off that strategy because the NRSC got Crist to run (it was considered a coup in early 2009), but the polls showed by Summer 2009 that Rubio was the big leader.

      Once the NRSC decided to stop backing their preferred recruits in the primaries, we got the rise of the dead ender candidates. In 2014, McConnell’s super pac intervened in a lot of primaries to prevent the crazies from winning and it worked, but that turned out to be a one-off and hasn’t happened since.

    1017. EML says:

      mnw posts on another site and still lurks here. I won’t put words in his mouth, but he seems to not like it here any more because of the endless bickering and how a certain couple of posters monopolize the conversation and rarely post anything poll or election related, which is what this site is supposed to be for.

    1018. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 25, 2022 at 11:45 am
      Too bad the RGA forgot about this with Mastriano”

      LOL

      Doug Mastriano 591,000 44%
      Lou Barletta 273,000 20%
      Bill McSwain 212,000 16%

      The country club Rs were going to waste money running ads against Mastriano?

      Amoral Scumbag is a clown

      – This is uniquely stupid, but par for the course from the fraud.

      Every Republican with functioning brain cells knew Mastriano was a problem, but the RGA and other outside groups decided to just close their eyes and hope for the best. Bad idea as it turned out.

      Had the RGA and other outside groups decided to run ads against Mastriano in February and March (a few months ahead of the primary) when it was clear he wasn’t fading, they could’ve done to him what the party has apparently done to Greitens.

      Lou Barletta was a fine alternative and he’s who the party tried to rally around the last week of the campaign. It was too late, but no one was more of a Trump guy that Barletta and Trump would’ve endorsed him had the party not allowed Mastriano to get a head of steam that couldn’t be stopped.

    1019. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      July 25, 2022 at 11:47 am
      The best way for the party to defend and increase its margins in the Senate is to get involved in primaries, when necessary.”

      Who determines “when necessary”.

      Trolls like you?

      – Until Trump came along, no one was a bigger critic of dead ender candidates. Now, you embrace them because.

      Who determines when necessary? When a candidate like Angle, COD, Akin, or Greitens put a safe seat at risk. It’s not about picking a favorite so much as it’s about stopping a sure fire loser.

    1020. Tina says:

      A hard pass on Rodney Glassjaw.

      John Cardillo
      @johncardillo
      ·
      23h
      Not only did fake GOP candidate for AZ Attorney General
      @rodneyglassman
      vehemently defend and take money from Planned Parenthood, he was such a committed far left Democrat that he ran for Chairman of the Arizona Democratic Party in 2011.

    1021. Tina says:

      I cannot believe Pence wasted time on Robson, I can understand Douchey doing it, not pence with his 20 person rally,

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
      1m
      2022 AZ Gov Republican Primary Poll:

      Kari Lake 44% (+12)
      Karrin Taylor Robson 32%
      Scott Neely 2%
      Paola Tulliani-Zen 2%
      Undecided 12%

      @Data_Orbital
      / 550 LV / 7/18-7

    1022. Tgca says:

      1029

      Nope Lizzy! I will repeat it on every post if necessary to rebut your attempts at trying to deflect and move the goal posts.

      When one has a belief and opinion and generalizes that about a large group with regard to how they they think and behave in contrast to evidence of the contrary, that is bigotry.

      I call you a bigot for your comments on Hispanics that are condescending and grossly stereotyping, not because you wish to harm them. I do not criticize you for conclusions of expectations in the midterms.

      It’s like saying AA love watermelon and fried chicken. There may be SOME truth to it but it’s a condescending generalization based on a historical racist view of them.

      That’s what your comments on Hispanic similarly illustrate as well.

      That is what you do here routinely. You’ve done it with Hispanics, Catholics, and gays.

      I think you make bigoted comments routinely and don’t see the bigotry in them because you were probably raised that way by your parents.

      Most people who are racists and bigots learn it at home and deny it so as long as you continue these idiotic comments, you will be called on it.

      Shame on your parents for raising such an IGORENT child and shame on you for not learning to be better than the IGNORENZ you were raised on.

    1023. EML says:

      So you spent the last 2 hours digging through my posts and couldn’t find one single instance of me being bigoted. Then you put up a post full of lies with nothing to back it up.

      You are Tgca the Perpetual Liar. Can’t tell the truth if your life depended on it.

      Who is the real bigot? Let’s see…

      EML: Hispanic voters are moving Republican.

      Tgca: All Hispanics love tacos.

      There’s one bigot here, and it’s not me, it’s Tgca the Perpetual Liar, HHR’s Dumbest Poster Ever.

    1024. Robbie says:

      EML says:
      July 25, 2022 at 11:53 am
      mnw posts on another site and still lurks here.

      – mnw didn’t like reading negative comments about Trump or populism.

    1025. Phil says:

      Baris just finished polling Arizona. Kari Lake will defeat Katie Hobbs in November. Lake carries indies by 12 points in a head to head in an electorate he sees at R+4. Kari Lake will be the next governor of Arizona.

    1026. EML says:

      mnw didn’t like reading negative comments about Trump or populism.
      ==============================
      The place where he posts is far more anti-Trump than here.

    1027. Tina says:

      Tell mnw, I miss him, and he needs to come back.

      Thanks,

    1028. Tgca says:

      Who is EML?

      Science Denier
      TDS Mental Disorder
      Delusions of Grandeur Narcissist
      Math Ignoramus
      Hispanic Bigot
      Catholic Bigot
      Homophobe
      Meteorology Ignoramus
      Florida Demographics and Geography Ignoramus

    1029. Tgca says:

      MNW did not like being personally attacked for his views on Trump versus people attacking Trump alone.

      There’s a difference!

      It’s the reason HHR is only down to a few regular posters from its heyday.

    1030. jason says:

      Until Trump came along, no one was a bigger critic of dead ender candidates. Now, you embrace them because.”

      I am still a big critic of deadender candidates.

      However, “deadender” doesn’t mean “endorsed by Trump or I don’t like him”.

      Oz and Walker and Vance are not deadenders, they are not sure losers running against a R guaranteed to win just to send a message. Even Greitens is no deadender, he probably would win the GE. Even a moron like Mo Brooks was not a deadender, he would have won the GE too.

      I absolutely don’t want the NRC picking or supporting candidates, especially your type of candidates.

    1031. jason says:

      MNW did not like being personally attacked”

      Yeah, he is safe from being “personally attacked” here, Tgca clown would never do that.

      “Who is EML?

      Science Denier
      TDS Mental Disorder
      Delusions of Grandeur Narcissist
      Math Ignoramus
      Hispanic Bigot
      Catholic Bigot
      Homophobe
      Meteorology Ignoramus
      Florida Demographics and Geography Ignoramus”

    1032. jason says:

      Had the RGA and other outside groups decided to run ads against Mastriano in February and March (a few months ahead of the primary) when it was clear he wasn’t fading, they could’ve done to him what the party has apparently done to Greitens”

      BS.

      Mastriano was a lock for 2 years.

      Nobody ran ads against him because it was a waste of money.

      He was not my candidate but I knew he would win the primary in massive fashion.

    1033. Gordon Allen says:

      Funny how someone can believe:
      1 Russia is an existential threat to the World,NATO, and Eastern Europe, and
      2 Ukraine can drive it out entirely up to its border
      3 AM I the only one mystified by the ( lack of)coherent logic here?

    1034. Gordon Allen says:

      Speaking of logic and truthfulness;
      Ukraine ” surrendering” equals an inability to regain the Donets and Luhansk??
      I would have sworn Ukraine was much larger than those eastern provinces. Go figure

    1035. Bitterlaw says:

      Gordon – Unfortunately, you are not alone in believing it is acceptable for Russia to have murdered thousands of Ukrainians, destroyed Ukraine’s economy, and seized hundreds of square miles of Ukraine’s territory. You are also not alone in thinking that Ukraine should accept a negotiated peace that is really surrender to Russia. Does that make you feel better?

    1036. Gordon Allen says:

      Wasn’t that the someone who claimed Putins indomitable 190,000 troops would overrun all the Ukraine?
      Didn’t someone else say NO CHANCE?
      How about repeating predictions? 1 Putin can’t/ won’t overrun Ukraine or any NATO state. 2 Ukraine won’t regain Crimea or the Donets Basin. Both are true

    1037. jason says:

      2 Ukraine can drive it out entirely up to its border”

      It can?

      Is that in your magazines?

      Everywhere else it says Russia still holding tens of thousands of square miles of territory it did not hold before the invasion.

      https://www.ft.com/content/4351d5b0-0888-4b47-9368-6bc4dfbccbf5

    1038. jason says:

      Ukraine ” surrendering” equals an inability to regain the Donets and Luhansk??”

      Wow, the sniveling little Putin lap dog is unhinged.

      Russia is occupying thousands of square miles outside of “Donets and Luhansk”, has murdered tens of thousands of Ukranians and displaced 12 million people.

      It has shelled and destroyed hundreds of Ukrainian town and cities.

      It has destroyed its economy and heavily damaged its infrastructure.

      Yet a Putin puppet like Neville Allen is still talking about “Donets and Luhansk”

      What a despicable excuse for a human being.

    1039. jason says:

      How about repeating predictions? ”

      Yeah, how about them, you lying POS?

      How about your prediction the Russians would never launch a full scale invasion of Ukraine.

      You want to repeat that one?

    1040. jason says:

      3 AM I the only one mystified by the ( lack of)coherent logic here?”

      You are probably the stupidest person here to believe that, I will give you that.

    1041. jason says:

      NYC Mayor Eric Adams Complains Migrants Bussed in From Border Will Have Significant ‘Impact’ on Public Resources”

      Ya thinks?

    1042. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Americans are strongly opposed to Biden’s leftist energy policies:

      “A new national telephone and online survey by Rasmussen Reports finds that 71% of Likely U.S. voters believe the U.S. government should encourage increased oil and gas production to reduce America’s dependence on foreign sources of oil and gas. Only 19% oppose a policy of encouraging U.S. energy independence, while 10% are not sure.”

    1043. Tgca says:

      1060

      Those are not attacks based on disagreements of opinion. Those are FACTS!

      You’ve made some of them yourself.

      Now STOP calling me names or I will leave HHR.

    1044. Tgca says:

      Liz Cheney says:

      I’ll Make Decision on Running For President in 2024 ‘Down the Road’

      If the GOP voters in her own state don’t want her by wide margins, what makes her think she could win a GOP primary at the national level?

      Does this skank realize how much she is hated by the GOP?

      That’s like my good friend Jadon running to lead the American Tofu Association. Why would the ATA’s tens of millions of voters vote for a disgusting vile meat eater who is a tofu bigot?

      https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/07/25/liz-cheney-ill-make-decision-on-running-for-president-in-2024-down-the-road/

    1045. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The question is whether the new weaponry that the Ukrainians are receiving from NATO will allow the Ukrainians to go on the offensive.

      The Ukrainians are now able to wipe out Russian ammunition storage depots, and deprive the Russians of the artillery they have used in their attacks in places like the Donbas.

      “Earlier this month, Ukraine’s Deputy Prime Minster Iryna Vereshchuk urged Kherson residents to evacuate the city as soon as possible to avoid becoming trapped in the city during a counteroffensive in southern Ukraine.

      “It is necessary to do so for the Armed Forces of Ukraine not to endanger the civilian population during offensive operations,” she told state TV.

      Serhiy Khlan, an adviser to Kherson’s government, told Ukrainian television the region would “definitely be liberated by September”, AFP report”

    1046. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      1073. Liz Cheney is in la la land, as she is about to get badly defeated in her reelection campaign in Wyoming. Maybe being in la la land is a Cheney family trait, as her father was in la la land in his Iraqi strategy:

      “With just over three weeks until Wyoming’s Primary Election Day on August 16, challenger Harriet Hageman has a huge lead on three-term incumbent Liz Cheney in the race for Wyoming’s lone U.S. House seat, according to a recent poll in the Casper Star-Tribune.

      “I can’t remember the last time I saw an incumbent down 22 points in a House Race, unless it was somebody who had been indicted or convicted of a crime,” said Brad Coker, managing director of Mason-Dixon Polling & Strategy, the firm that conducted the poll.”

    1047. Bitterlaw says:

      The last time Tgca promised to leave, he was back the same day.

    1048. EML says:

      That’s because tgca lies about everything.

    1049. EML says:

      Net approval at this time in office:

      Joe Biden: -19.3%
      Donald Trump: -11.3%
      Barack Obama: -1.6%
      George W Bush: +39.8%
      Bill Clinton: -2.4%
      George H.W. Bush: +34.8%
      Ronald Reagan: -2.1%
      Jimmy Carter: -4.8%

    1050. Tgca says:

      1078

      Oh Lizzie! You’re the one we caught in lies here. You just pretend like we did not and ignore it when we point it out.

      You’re Robbie 2.0

      Now tell us again how Catholics are not Christians and they’re just pagans please.

      …and don’t forget to tell us how the 5 GOP state EV gains less the 2 GOP state EV losses nets to 4 GOP EV pick ups please with the new Dem math you practice in NY.

    1051. EML says:

      and don’t forget to tell us how the 5 GOP state EV gains less the 2 GOP state EV losses nets to 4 GOP EV pick ups please with the new Dem math you practice in NY.
      ============================
      Please show me the post where I say this, you Perpetual Liar. I’ll save you the time: you can’t. You’re just a liar.

      Were you always a liar like this or is it something that happened more recently?

    1052. Tgca says:

      HA! HA! HA! HA!
      HA! HA! HA!

      Dem Rep. Luria: Liz Cheney Needs to Be the ‘Face of the Republican Party’

      You know you’re a LOSAH when the Dems think you should represent the opposing party.

      https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/07/24/dem-rep-luria-liz-cheney-needs-to-be-the-face-of-the-republican-party/

    1053. Tgca says:

      1081

      Go back and read your response to the question about how many state GOP EVs the GOP picked up. You say 4. It’s actually 3 as me and my Butt Buddy Jadon demonstrated.

      Talk about STOOPID people who don’t know when they’re being mocked.

    1054. EML says:

      Go back and read your response to the question about how many state GOP EVs the GOP picked up. You say 4.
      ===========================
      Liar.

      Show me the post or show everybody that you’re a liar.

    1055. EML says:

      Always Wrong, never in doubt.

    1056. Robbie says:

      EML says:
      July 25, 2022 at 4:19 pm
      Always Wrong, never in doubt.

      – The HHR motto!

      It was pioneered by Polaris.

    1057. Bitterlaw says:

      Polaris was never wrong. The voters just did not do what he predicted. Blame them.

    1058. Tgca says:

      1084

      I already referred you to the exact posts and you refused to answer if the correct number was 3 or 4 and then you went on to further deflect.

      It’s a very simple question that you either answer yes or no to and we can end the debate right here and right now.

      Will the GOP states net EV gain be 3 going forward based on the 2020 census results?

      YES or NO?

    1059. EML says:

      I already referred you to the exact posts and you refused to answer if the correct number was 3 or 4 and then you went on to further deflect.
      ===================
      Another lie. Show me the post where I said GOP is picking up 4 EVs like you claim I said. You haven’t shown it because I didn’t say it and you are a liar. Show me the post. If you don’t, I take it an admission that you are a chronic liar.

      Let’s see it, Always Wrong.

    1060. Tgca says:

      1085

      Seems to be your motto Lizzie based on many of your posts here.

      Now tell us again please how Catholics are not Christians.

      …or how Hispanics should be able to handle cheese and spice without acid reflux even though an estimated 50% of Hispanics suffer from acid reflux, a percentage higher than AA or Asians and certain other Caucasian groups.

      …and don’t forget to explain to us how 5 minus 2 = 4 please.

    1061. Tgca says:

      1089

      Lizzie:

      Why won’t you answer the very simple question?

      Yes or no?

      Does the GOP states net 3 EV going forward?

      Your refusal to answer a simple question proves you’re deflecting and hiding.

      Why are you wasting more time posting rebuttals when you can answer with a simple one word post?

    1062. EML says:

      That’s the end of the story then. You’re a chronic liar. You constantly claim that I say things, then when asked to show me where I said those things, you refuse to. You are a constant liar and it has been irrefutably proven.

      Always Wrong is always a liar.

    1063. Tgca says:

      1092

      Your refusal to answer the simple question with a yes or no proves my point.

      You incorrectly answered a question on GOP state EV pick-ups and you dance around it.

      Everyone here knows it’s a net 3 seat pick-up but you. You noted 4. It was 3.

      You could of argued you misunderstood the question and answered incorrectly but you refuse to accept accountability.

      You REALLY are like Liz Cheney!

    1064. Tgca says:

      1093

      EV pick-up.

    1065. EML says:

      You incorrectly answered a question on GOP state EV pick-ups
      ===========
      This is a lie. Show it to me.

    1066. EML says:

      You don’t get to refuse to answer my question, which was asked first, and then demand that I answer your question. That’s not how it works.

      Answer my question and I’ll answer yours. Or just admit that you’re a liar.

    1067. EML says:

      Everyone reading this can see you’re a liar. How embarrassing.

    1068. Tgca says:

      Actually, you don’t get to decide the order of responses when you questioned the authenticity of another poster in the 1st place.

      Jadon and I answered a question of another poster correctly.

      You did not answer his question and then tried to mock me though I gave the correct answer. Now you refuse to admit I gave the correct answer and you dance around it in numerous posts.

      You still will not admit if the correct number of net GOP EV is 3.

      WHY?

    1069. Bitterlaw says:

      At the risk of cutting off 300 posts on the 3 vs 4 debate, why not just show the posts and let the HHR Jury decide?

    1070. Bitterlaw says:

      MC

      Hammer time.

    1071. Wes says:

      Tg, I had a tasty lunch yesterday consisting of a rack of Nashville Hot ribs, a burger piled high with brisket and onion strings, and thick-cut fries. I washed it all down with Dos Equis. It tasted great.

      I know you’re jealous of how great a meal I had.

    1072. Tgca says:

      1097

      I’ll let other speak for themselves. Not one person has commented that I lied about this. Only you.

      What people have claimed though is that you have TDS which is a mental disorder,

      You have delusions of grandeur like when you claim you are the most conservative poster at HHR.

      Now who is the embarrassment at HHR with TDS and claims they are the most conservative poster here?

    1073. EML says:

      You did not answer his question and then tried to mock me though I gave the correct answer
      ================
      There we go! Getting closer to the truth. So now you are changing your story and admitting you lied! The first step is acknowledging you have a lying problem. Attaboy, liar!

      Yes, I was mocking you! Dummy

    1074. EML says:

      Helping liars repent of their evil ways one lie at a time.

    1075. Tgca says:

      1101

      …and how much do you weigh now Wes?

      You could have enjoyed this instead.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqIbZnmzLHk

    1076. EML says:

      That would be enough food for me for 2 days Wes.

    1077. Tgca says:

      1103

      You’re deflecting again Lizzie

      So you mock people who answer correctly?

      Give me a break. That’s such a lame excuse.

      You just can’t admit the correct answer. We all know that now because you’re changing the goal posts.

      It must REALLY suck to be you 24/7.

    1078. EML says:

      I was never asked nor answered such a queation. I offered up the 7 new and 7 deleted congressional seats and that’s it. But you are to STUPID to understand what I did. Sorry im too smart.

    1079. Tgca says:

      1108

      More deflection from Lizzie.

      Why answer a question never asked or relevant to the basis of the inquiry and then try to mock others for correctly addressing the inquiry?

      It’s like responding to how many moons exist in our solar system when the inquiry is how many planets exist in our solar system.

      My guess is you misunderstood the inquiry and fought tooth and nail to refuse admitting your confusion when called on it.

      Perhaps you should see a neurologist grandpa for your confusion and don’t forget to mention your TDS either.

    1080. Tgca says:

      Either = too.

    1081. EML says:

      Big W for EML today. Got tgca to change his story and admit he’s a liar. Now every time tgca posts “EML said…” that you know it’s a lie.

      WOOOO /flair

    1082. Tgca says:

      1111

      I never admitted any such thing Lizzie!

      You are the one NOW trying to explain away what you really were answering to avoid admitting your error once I cornered you with a yes or no response…but only after I hammered you over and over on it.

      Baby steps for the delusional narcissist who claims he’s the Most Conservative HHR poster.

      Thanks for playing Lizzie!

      …now tell us again how Catholics are NOT Christians please.

    1083. Wes says:

      Because it celebrated its 41st anniversary recently, yesterday I watched Wolfen (1981) directed by Michael Wadleigh of the Woodstock (1969) documentary fame. Loosely based on the 1978 horror novel The Wolfen written by Whitley Strieber of Communion fame, Wolfen is one of three movies dealing with werewolves from 1981, the others being Joe Dante’s The Howling, based loosely on the 1977 Gary Brander novel, and An American Werewolf in London, written and directed by John Landis.

      Eschewing a traditional werewolf story, Wolfen involves a cryptid race of highly intelligent wolves who regard humans as savages and prey and hunt down derelicts of society they think no one will miss. However, the Wolfen draw attention to themselves by murdering a socialite who intends to destroy an abandoned section of New York City where the Wolfen have been hunting and replace it with new real estate.

      For most of the movies nearly two-hour runtime, the Wolfen are off screen, scenes shot in negative often announcing their presence to the audience as the Wolfen both observe and stalk their human prey. Even when the camera doesn’t explicitly hint at their being nearby, the chilled feeling of being watched exhibited by the human characters hints to the audience the proximity of the titular antagonists, making the movie highly effective in its minimalist approach to scares.

      Long before the police investigating the increasing murders, led by veteran actor Albert Finney, learn the Wolfen exist, the movie establishes red herrings in the form of an ecoterrorist group and some local Indians who could plausibly be responsible for the string of crimes, though about the halfway point, these groups fade from prominence in the story as the true nature of the monsters becomes apparent.

      Director Wadleigh does an admirable job of increasing tension and hinting at the claustrophobic closing in of the proverbial net as the Wolfen first try to lure a pair of cops into a slaughter only to be thwarted at the last second. Later, the creatures spy on their targets having sex and begin silently stalking them for the finale.

      After a slow burn punctuated with violent death scenes more notable for their implications than for their visuals, Wolfen climaxes supernaturally with an ending moderately faithful to the source material. Having survived, Finney’s character muses briefly about how ignorant humanity truly is of the world around us as the Wolfen race howling toward their hunting grounds to await further prey.

      Although The Howling and An American Werewolf in London are more famous movies dealing with the werewolf theme–probably because of their top-notch special effects and more jocular tone standing in contrast to the minimalist effects and serious tone of Wolfen–Wolfen is, in my mind, the most ambitious of the three movies. It largely eschews humor in favor of poignant social commentary about urban blight and Man’s relationship to the world around him. The acting, especially by Finney, is mostly understated and convincing. The characters are likable and genuine feeling although not particularly fleshed out. Finally the pacing is more consistent with a slow-burn crescendo leading to an intense standoff between Man and Wolfen that concludes thoughtfully rather than with mindless action.

      I recommend Wolfen to fans of horror movies that try to add weight to their narratives. Although the ’80s was known as an era when most horror involved poorly drawn, stupid characters primarily intended to pad the kill count of some nearly invincible monster, human or otherwise, not all such movies from the time were so heavily derivative. Wolfen is a unique ’80s horror movie developing a common theme in a previously unexplored way. It’s one of the best.

    1084. Wes says:

      I still weigh 170, Tg. I’ll pass on the tofu. I don’t eat slop.

    1085. Tgca says:

      1115

      So you’re still fat. Got it!

    1086. NYCmike says:

      “– mnw didn’t like reading negative comments about Trump or populism.”

      -That’s horsesh*t.

      He didn’t like people responding to….oh damn!

      Sorry, mnw!

    1087. Robbie says:

      Decision Desk HQ
      @DecisionDeskHQ
      ?TOPLINE RATING CHANGE?

      Republicans are now FAVORED to win the U.S. Senate for the first time since July 3rd.

      DDHQ’s 2022 Forecast gives them a 50.5% chance of winning a majority, with a 51 (R) – 49 (D) mean outcome.

    1088. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      July 25, 2022 at 7:14 pm
      “– mnw didn’t like reading negative comments about Trump or populism.”

      -That’s horsesh*t.

      He didn’t like people responding to….oh damn!

      Sorry, mnw!

      – He’s a baby.

    1089. Wes says:

      Sorry, Tg. Not everyone can be a dwarf weighing 115 pounds like you.

    1090. Phil says:

      My prediction is Rs pick up seats in Arizona and Nevada and lose one in Pennsylvania. They hold Ohio and Wisconsin. Democrats probably hold on to Georgia.

      That would put it at 51-49R…..but the races in Georgia, Nevada and Arizona are going to be so close it’s a coinflip as to who controls.

    1091. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca weighs 115? Does that include carrying his dog’s urn and 25 pounds of tofu?

    1092. Bitterlaw says:

      I know you hate Pennsylvania but I think you are making another bad prediction. Fetterman is not campaigning and his Democrat primary opponent condemned him as a Socialist.

    1093. Tgca says:

      1122

      Looks like someone’s itching for a fight. I’ll bite.

      So says the guy with the Pooh bear stomach.

    1094. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzz. Your puppet master abandoned you. It must have hurt that she didn’t even say goodbye.

    1095. Tgca says:

      Yep. Not everyone says good bye when they leave.

      That’s the breaks.

      Life goes on.

      I won’t sleep over it.

    1096. jason says:

      I hate big fights where I am not one of the participants.

      Of course, I participate in fights with a lot more substance and gravitas than whether the GOP gained 3 or 4 seats or whatever but then not all posters are qualified to fight at my level.

    1097. Bitterlaw says:

      It was cold that she left without making you a real boy.

    1098. jason says:

      Tgca weighs 115? Does that include carrying his dog’s urn and 25 pounds of tofu?”

      Normally he will have his daily fish kill with him too, so that might account for a couple lbs.

    1099. Tgca says:

      1st skanky Liz and now cry baby lieutenant Adam threatens to subpoena Clarence Thomas’s wife with J6C appearance.

      Again, me think this is a strategic move to force Thomas to recuse himself if any of these Trump or fraud cases go to trial and get raised up to SCOTUS and embarrass Thomas.

      https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/07/25/kinzinger-if-we-need-to-subpoena-ginni-thomas-we-will/

    1100. jason says:

      My goodbye will be in Quechua.

      Why make it easy for you bastards?

    1101. Tgca says:

      1128

      Real boy?

      Ummm….aren’t you the one that hangs with teen girls Snapchatting so who us the one that is not the real boy here?

    1102. jason says:

      Damm, there goes another weeks long fight that I don’t have a dog in.

    1103. Wes says:

      You can still fight with our resident Tyrian Lannister over his rabbit food diet, Jason.

    1104. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca is too stupid to understand that lisab was his puppet master and the “real boy” reference was to Pinocchio.

      I have never “ hung out” with children. Just coached them.

      Jason to turn a blind eye to what scumbag Tgca is really saying in 3…2…1…

    1105. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca knows where I live and I have posted my phone number. I have invited him to make his accusation to my face. I will even give him a stepladder so he can look me in the eyes when he says it.

    1106. jason says:

      Ooooohhhh.. I get invited into the fight?

      Bitter does have a heart.

      Huh, let’s see…”hangs with teen girls Snapchatting”

      No, that DOES NOT make you a sexual predator, sorry.

      I am available for the next statement so I can give the next clarification.

    1107. jason says:

      Tgca normally says what he thinks, that is how we know so much is wrong.

      So I think if he wanted to call Bitter a sexual predator he would do so. Since he has never done that, I assume he doesn’t believe it to be true either.

      I am not sympathetic to people who want to play victim.

    1108. Tgca says:

      1135

      Oh here we go.

      The Snapchatter is whining with his adolescent tantrum fit. This is why he has no adult friends and spends all his time with adolescents.

      He will now whine that Jadon won’t take his side and is my ally.

      Boo hoo!

    1109. Bitterlaw says:

      As predicted, Jason provides cover right on cue. Of course, he is wrong about the clown. He often tries to be clever and say things without expressly stating it. Just last week, he said the death of my niece was the same as the death of his dog.

      Spin that, Jason.

    1110. jason says:

      I am not your ally. I agree that what you said does not make him a sexual predator.

      However “has no adult friends and spends all his time with adolescents” is BS, and you know it.

    1111. Tgca says:

      I have no desire to travel 1,200 miles to an elitist white town with woke TDS residents that brag about spending time in the good parts of Philly.

      If you wish to come to our beautiful state of FL, I will gladly meet you and repeat these comments to your face as many times as you desire, assuming you buy me lunch too since something’s got to be in it for me.

      Now WTF you gonna do about it you p@ssy @ss Bish?

      Can I make that any more clear to you, you whining little girl?

      Now you have a good night as I’m about to watch some bad movie on Netflix so you can spend the next few hours fuming with your decades of rage and accusing others of not taking your side like an adolescent would do.

    1112. jason says:

      Just last week, he said the death of my niece was the same as the death of his dog.

      Spin that, Jason.”

      I missed that argument, sorry.

      IF he used those exact words that is wrong.

      But since you have a record of putting words in his mouth, I would have to see the exact quote.

    1113. Tina says:

      Grassley goes on the attack against the corrupt fib.

      Shem Horne Retweeted

      Benjamin Weingarten
      @bhweingarten
      “If these allegations are true & accurate, the Justice Dept and FBI are – and have been – institutionally corrupted to their very core to the point in which the U.S. Congress and the American ppl will have no confidence in the equal application of the law” https://grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/grassley_to_justice_deptfbipoliticalbiasfollowup.pdf…
      12:21 PM · Jul 25, 2022·Twitter Web App

    1114. jason says:

      I don’t know what snapchat is but I certainly have hung out with teenage girls, there were a lot of them around when my sons were growing up. That didn’t make me a sexual predator. Also, there is nothing wrong with a coach hanging out with his team, coaching is not only on the court, you do have to interact with your players. If you take your team out for pizza after a game, if you ride with the team on the bus, etc. you are hanging out with the girls, BFD.

    1115. Tgca says:

      1140

      I never said the death of your niece was the same as the death of my dog. You LIE Bish!

      I was explaining the mechanics of grief, regardless of the causes of grief but you’re too thick-headed to understand that with your simple way of looking at the world.

      Your insufferable self-obsession with people having it out for you and trying to hurt you spins it into something you wish to use to garner sympathy for yourself. I suspects it’s a distraction from your miserable existence that you’ve whined about here for nearly 2 decades.

      To be honest, the death of my dog was more important to me than the death of your niece, just as I expect the death of your cat is more important to you than my life. I accept that. It doesn’t mean they’re the same event though.

      It’s the way of the world. It’s not meant to disparage your niece in any way.

      Get over yourself and move on.

    1116. jason says:

      Now WTF you gonna do about it you p@ssy @ss Bish?”

      Nah, no points.

    1117. Bitterlaw says:

      The sad little clown is too afraid to pick up a phone.

      Funny how Jason always misses the posts by the sad little clown that are clear to everybody else. The sad little clown explicitly compared my grief over my niece to his grief over his dog. But Jason probably knew that and just wants to play his own game.

    1118. jason says:

      Another good article on Trump at Redstate, this time from Brandon Morse.

      “The biggest joke on the left and the Democrat Party is that if they had just stopped talking about Trump the moment he was out of office, Trump would likely not be as popular as he is today. However, like a stage-five clinger in the throes of her rage, the Democrat Party cannot stop obsessing over him. Leftists have made more money and achieved political office strictly off of being anti-Trump. Even now, the left’s strategy for midterms is to push this idea that Trumpism is tearing this nation apart and only they can heal it.

      They might as well be spamming in the inboxes of every person in America with the message “he really hurt us and we’re afraid of him.” They are actively encouraging Republicans to love him even more. If Trump sat back and did nothing until 2024, his campaign would still have a high chance of victory because the left wouldn’t be able to stop campaigning for him.

      All of this compiles and takes Trump from being a politician or public figure and well into being a sub-culture of his own. He’s the leader of, not just a party, but a tribe. Trump culture is the cradle that gave birth to a new kind of Republican Party that actually wins fights both political and social, and with each victory comes a new reason to jump on board.

      There’s still a lot of football left to play until 2024 and there’s no telling what the political landscape will look like when that time comes around, but if Trump is still going just as strong as the culture created around him, he’ll be the favorite to win the Republican primary and the shoo-in for the general.”

    1119. jason says:

      The sad little clown explicitly compared my grief over my niece to his grief over his dog.”

      Heh, I knew it.

      We went from “he said the death of my niece was the same as the death of his dog” to “explicitly said it” in five minutes.

      And then we have:

      “I never said the death of your niece was the same as the death of my dog.”

      I think I will stay out of it since I was not here for the original fight.

    1120. Bitterlaw says:

      The sad little clown is the one obsessed with himself. Does he really think anybody cares about his starvation diet?

    1121. Tgca says:

      1141

      I’m mocking him and it’s not meant literally, and I assume that is clear to all.

      Bitter specifically made a mocking reference to me in referring to my dog’s urn in post 1122 out of nowhere, fully knowing that it is nearly 3 years to the day of her death as I noted last week in my post about grief.

      He did not make such a comment innocently. He wished to strike below the belt, probably because of his “decades of rage” he likes to remind us all about living that awful existence in white elitist woke Radnor and frequenting the good parts of Philly.

      Now he whines when I mock him back.

      Perhaps if he just kept his mouth shut and did not stoop so low, he’d not be feeling sorry for himself at the moment for being ridiculed.

    1122. Bitterlaw says:

      And then we have:

      To be honest, the death of my dog was more important to me than the death of your niece

    1123. Tgca says:

      1148

      I told you before, I have no desire to talk to you.

      You just want attention. Have me on the phone all night whining. Then I’d have to change my number so you were not hounding me all the time.

      What is your obsession with thinking people are afraid to say something to you. I don’t know how I can be anymore clear then I’ve been here.

      Again, it’s your obsession with yourself.

      Get help!

      Go see a fis-uh-kee-uh-trist dammit!

    1124. Bitterlaw says:

      I’m mocking him and it’s not meant literally, and I assume that is clear to all.

      It is amazing how often the sad little clown has to explain what he really meant when it should have been “clear to all.”

    1125. Bitterlaw says:

      I told you before, I have no desire to talk to you.

      After thousands of posts directed to me? Seriously?

    1126. Tgca says:

      1153

      Yes, I never denied that. What’s wrong with that?

      You think anyone here that lost a pet grieved more for your niece than their pet?

      People grieve for those they know, not for those they don’t know.

      Again, you’re being self-obsessed that we must all suffer and feel what you feel when that’s crazy thinking.

      We gave you our heartfelt condolences on your loss. That should be enough. We owe you no more and we are not obligated to suffer with you no more than you are obligated to grieve and suffer with our losses, whether they be pets or humans.

      Grow up!

    1127. Bitterlaw says:

      Again, it’s your obsession with yourself.

      Irony meter explodes as sad little clown posts thousands of posts with each sentence getting its own line separated by an empty row just to make each post take up more room. Thousands of posts about his fish and his expertise in a never defined career and his starvation diet and all the other details of a lonely life.

    1128. Tgca says:

      1155

      It’s your mental disorder that twists everything around.

      Seriously? Have you considered seeking help for your anger, frustration, and narcissistic obsession you expect others to share with you?

      We should not have to be your therapists.

    1129. Tgca says:

      1158

      Your rage is coming through again.

      Go Snapchat with your friends before they have to go to sleep so you can vent and feel all better so some will agree with you.

    1130. Bitterlaw says:

      We gave you our heartfelt condolences on your loss…and then you blamed me for her death and described her agony and fear as she strangled to death.

      Everybody read that post whether jason wants to admit or not.

    1131. Bitterlaw says:

      We should not have to be your therapists.

      Thank God. You can’t even keep fish alive.

    1132. Tgca says:

      I

      Always

      Leave

      Lines

      Between

      Many

      Sentences

      Because

      It

      Is

      Easier

      To

      Read.

      It

      Is

      Difficult

      To

      Read

      Cluttered

      Paragraphs

      In

      These

      Posts.

      Got

      It

      !!!

    1133. Bitterlaw says:

      So the sad little clown has difficulty reading 2 lines at a time. Got it.

    1134. Tgca says:

      1161

      Oh whatevah!

      You’re feeling sorry for yourself again.

      …and it’s rude not to capitalize Jadon’s name. It shows disrespect for the disgusting vile meat eater.

    1135. Tgca says:

      Wes

      I love Mars Attacks!

      I have it on DVD.

    1136. Tgca says:

      1165

      Again, your narcissism is showing.

      So we all have to do things here the way you want them because that pleases you?

      As I noted before, you think you have special privileges here above all others and act like you own this site.

      Get over it!

      Stop whining little girl.

    1137. Bitterlaw says:

      The sad little clown fights with almost everybody and insults almost everybody but accuses me of being angry. That is why we laugh at the sad little clown.

    1138. Cash Cow TM says:

      Walt was lamenting to me about how the cost of his basics have increased over the last several years.
      *************************************************
      He said 3 years ago his TV cost was free (had an antenna and got 55 channels). Internet service was about $14/mo.

      Now, he has cable at his new home (no antennas allowed by the HOA where he lives now) and his basic cable plus internet costs $140/mo.
      ___________________
      Not too many years ago, his water and sewer combined cost about $35. Now it is $110/month.
      __________________________
      Annual fire fee was $25 last year. Now $65/yr.
      _________________________________
      Annual ambulance fee was $25. Now $65/yr.
      __________________________________________
      He said 10 years ago (during Obama yrs.) his cigars cost about $7 for box of 25. Now costs $23.75 for box of 25.

    1139. Tgca says:

      1169

      Ha! Ha!

      Your lashing out and desperation is showing little girl. You learn this from your best adolescent buddies?

      The FACT is you routinely fight with:

      Jadon
      Wes
      NYC
      Tina
      Phil
      Robbie
      Gordy
      Me

      …and I probably missed a few too.

      Now that’s 8 of our regular posters or at least 50% here so that’s more than I argue with …and this doesn’t count the one’s you helped chase away.

      …as for laughing at folks, you are widely mocked here on a routine basis by all I listed above so look in the mirror little girl.

      Now tell us all about your decades of rage again please.

    1140. jason says:

      and it’s rude not to capitalize Jadon’s name. It shows disrespect for the disgusting vile meat eater.”

      BS.

      My name is jason.

    1141. jason says:

      Huh?

      JohnKerry: Inflation will go down if we spend more money trying to stop the climate from changing

    1142. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Rasmussen_Poll

      Only 51% of Democrats trust the Democrat party more on the issue of oil and gas production.

      Every other demographic (except black voters) trust Republicans far more than Democrats.”

    1143. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      For those of you here at HHR who do not believe in the “Deep State”, how would you define this activity by the FBI?

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chuck-grassley-fbi-justice-department-downplay-hunter-biden-information/

      How about the “Sedition State”? This is really bad. Read Sen. Grassley’s letter. Whoa!!!

    1144. EML says:

      Emerson College Poll
      2022 MO Senate Republican Primary:

      Eric Schmitt – 39%
      Vicky Hartzler – 25%
      Eric Greitens – 18%
      Billy Long – 7%
      Mark McCloskey – 5%
      Dave Schatz – 3%

      https://emersoncollegepolling.com/us-senate-primary-battles-in-missouri-republican-schmitt-surges-as-greitens-drops-democrats-busch-valentine-and-kunce-in-tight-race-for-nomination/

    1145. EML says:

      Fabrizio Ward (R) & Impact Research (D) poll among 50+ voters

      NY-03 GEN BALLOT
      Republicans 46%
      Democrats 42%

      NY-22 GEN BALLOT
      Republicans 54%
      Democrats 36%

      https://www.aarp.org/content/dam/aarp/research/surveys_statistics/politics/2022/aarp-new-york-congressional-district-03-survey-older-voters.10.26419-2Fres.00550.038.pdf

    1146. jason says:

      Poor Amoral Scumbag, won’t have Greitens to bring up Dem talking points.

      Should we have an over and under until he starts calling Schmitt a “bad candidate”?

    1147. jason says:

      Anything significant about those two NY districts, EML?

    1148. jason says:

      I hope there is a fight today I can participate in without being called as a character witness for other people’s fights.

    1149. jason says:

      For those of you here at HHR who do not believe in the “Deep State”, how would you define this activity by the FBI?”

      Hmm, an opportunity to attack the “Deep State” idiots?

      I will take it.

      The fact there are left wing partisans in the FBI and other agencies making decisions that reflect their politics is no secret, we have evidence of it on a daily basis. But this is no secret cabal and it isn’t any “Deep State” organization. It is a result of the politicizing of these agencies by Clinton and Obama appointees and the far left academia where these people come from.

    1150. EML says:

      NY-03 is a Nassau County based district that has been held by Dems for a while and where Republicans have gotten close but haven’t won. Biden won by 8.1 in 2020 and Hillary won by 5.1 in 2016. Incumbent Democrat Tom Suozzi is running for Governor.

      The presumptive Republican nominee in this district, George Santos, recently released a poll showing him up by 11.

      NY-22 is the Syracuse based district formerly held by Republican John Katko. Despite voting Democrat on the federal level for decades, it is trending right and Katko has held this seat since 2014. Biden won by 7.2 but Hillary by only 2.1. Leans Dem, but seems to now like electing Republican congressmen.

    1151. jason says:

      I find it hilarious that the “Deep State” conspiracy theory idiots use publicly available information as evidence of the “Deep State”.

      It is so “deep” they read about it on blogs and in the news.

    1152. jason says:

      Thanks. Since that is a D poll, seems encouraging.

    1153. Phil says:

      Jason, NY 22 is a D+2 district and they are getting blown out by 18. Not good news for the ads in the 3rd either. That is a D+4 district.

    1154. jason says:

      Have the Deep State idiots uncovered an organizational chart yet? Has anyone recorded one of their secret meetings? Intercepted or decoded any of their secret messages?

      What we need is a Deep State Deep Throat to blow this thing wide open. Once that is resolved, maybe we can elucidate the Tooth Fairy next.

    1155. jason says:

      Funny comment on Predictit re: Liz Cheney.

      “hear she has a quail hunting trip in south Texas with her dad scheduled for right after she goes down in flames in November”

    1156. Bitterlaw says:

      Happy birthday, Wes. GFY.

    1157. Phil says:

      Cook has NY 22 and 3rd as “tossups”

      Uh, no.

    1158. Tgca says:

      New Yorkers and Chicagoans Lead Nation in Relocating to Florida

      FL saw 220,000 inflow last year. I doubt most of these are GOP voters from NY and Chicago.

      https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/new-york-chicago-florida/2022/07/25/id/1080277/

    1159. Phil says:

      Well, Florida GOP voter registration continues to increase over D registration month after month and has over the last year so those improved GOP numbers are coming from somewhere.

    1160. EML says:

      I would somewhat caution reading too much into the AARP poll. It is 50+ only. However, this age group is much more likely to turn out in off year elections. Here’s turn out by age in Virginia, 2021 vs 2020

      2021
      65+ 26%
      45-64 43%
      30-44 21%
      18-29 10%

      2020
      65+ 18%
      45-64 38%
      30-44 24%
      18-29 20%

      Suffice to say, if Republicans are winning 50+ voters by 18 points in NY-22, it is a Safe R district.

    1161. EML says:

      Wisconsin state senate minority leader Janet Bewley (D) pulled out in front of a car being driven by a 27 year old mother. Both mother and 5 year old daughter were killed. At the time, Bewley was driving while talking on the phone with a reporter from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

    1162. jason says:

      If it was in Milwaukee probably nothing will happen to her. Some woke DA will cite her for failure to yield or something like that.

    1163. jason says:

      I guess in revenge for Northerners invading Florida Tgca is exporting gators?

      Spiteful bastard.

      “KENOSHA, Wis. – Gator on the loose! Kenosha, Wisconsin, police found an alligator roaming a neighborhood Tuesday – the second such animal that’s been found in southeast Wisconsin in July.

      Someone spotted the Kenosha alligator on the sidewalk and called police, according to a report from FOX 6 Milwaukee. Turns out, the reptile, named Chomper, was actually someone’s pet, and it was reunited with its caregiver after a little adventure.”

    1164. EML says:

      It happened in her hometown of Ashland in northwestern Wisconsin. She could read the tea leaves and has already announced her retirement after this year. Her district went for Trump by 10.3 points and Republicans are very likely to pick it up this fall.

    1165. jason says:

      “Ben Baker, a reporting intern for the Journal Sentinel, was on the phone with Bewley at the time of the crash on Friday afternoon for an interview he had arranged with her staff about this fall’s elections for the Legislature.

      Shortly after the interview began, Bewley told Baker she had cataract eye surgery the day before. Minutes later, she stopped talking mid-sentence and the call went silent. When Baker asked Bewley if she was still on the line, she sounded concerned. When Baker asked if she was OK, she said, “Yeah, I’m OK. This is not a good accident.”

    1166. jason says:

      I say give her a fair trial before sending her to jail.

    1167. jason says:

      The victims were a young mom from PA and her daughter.

    1168. Bitterlaw says:

      Charge her with some degree of murder. Anything less such as manslaughter or vehicular homicide is a joke.

      But that’s just my position.

    1169. jason says:

      Woke Pentagon tells Pelosi not to go to Taiwan because her plane could get shot down.

      Mike Pompeo volunteers to go with her.

    1170. jason says:

      She won’t even be charged with manslaughter.

      I read some of the media reports.

      One says “she ended up in the path of…”

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

      Think I am joking?

      “Bewley was pulling out of a Lake Superior beach entrance when she ended up in the path of a car driven by 27-year-old Alyssa Ortman, according to the Ashland Police Department.”

    1171. jason says:

      The police already said “no alcohol or foul play is suspected” as if that were the only things that would lead to charges.

    1172. jason says:

      I am actually surprised the media said “she ended up in the path”.

      Normally for a Democrat it would be “her car ended up in the path..”

    1173. jason says:

      Seems like the victim’s brother was killed by a drunk driver last year.

    1174. EML says:

      Yep, she just ended up there. It’s a complete mystery. Maybe aliens teleported her car.

    1175. Cash Cow TM says:

      What is a liberal?
      ##########################################

      A liberal is someone who:

      –believes deeply in their right to free speech and demonstration, but is vehemently opposed to free speech and demonstration by those whose views do not align with theirs

      –believes in women’s rights and gay rights but views very favorably those autocratic countries that are very anti-women and anti-gay

      –agrees with changing the calculation of inflation rate to exclude the food costs and energy costs

      –agrees with today changing the definition of recession to NO LONGER be 2 successive quarters of negative growth

      –cannot define what a woman is

      –is triggered into an apoplectic fit by the sight of the American flag or a MAGA hat, but is OK with including as “art” a small plastic statue of Jesus immersed in a jar of urine

      –favors equal outcomes, NOT equal opportunity

      –favors kneeling over every perceived social injustice, but refuses to stand for the national anthem and never kneels by their bed to pray to God

      –wants to follow (questionable) unsettled science when it comes to Man-Made Glow-bull Warming, but does not want to follow science when it comes to when sustainable life is achieved in the womb.

      –does not believe a fetus is a person, but favors laws that charge a person with double murder if they kill a pregnant woman

      –Scream “my body my choice” when it comes to abortion, but refusing that idea when it comes to COVID vaccinations

      –Never saw a tax hike proposal they did not favor

      –Hate the police, but want to the police to protect them and their property and possessions

      –believes in the constitutional right to protest even if the protest turns violent and causes injuries, deaths and hundreds of millions of dollars in damages to innocent persons

      –favors following the constitution to provide the rights of same sex marriage and transgender males to compete in female sports, but does not favor the constitution where it provides for secure borders of the U.S. and also want to ignore the 2nd amendment and seize all guns in the U.S.

      –want to follow Senate rules in order to block any R president’s legislative agenda and appointments, but do not favor following Senate rules when Rs use the to block legislative agenda and appointments of D presidents

      –adamantly oppose U.S. environmentally sound production of U.S. located fossil fuels but very much in favor of wanting foreign, totalitarian, repressive, non-human rights regimes to produce more fossil fuels in an unsound way to sell to the U.S. to meet our energy needs

      ********************************************

      What did I miss?

      Feel free to add.

    1176. EML says:

      You gotta keep up with the times walt. “Liberal” has a negative connotation and a bad reputation, so many Leftists moved on to calling themselevs “progressive” some years back. They don’t realize that the negative connotation comes from the bad policies and that a little name change and some propaganda won’t fix it. As soon as that has as bad a reputation as “liberal”, they will move on to something else.

    1177. EML says:

      In 2021, Chicago saw the highest number of murders in 30 years.
      But what Mayor Lightfoot says the city really needs is a $1-$2 billion dome over Soldier Field.

      https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34294467/city-chicago-pitches-dome-soldier-field-entice-bears

    1178. Gordon Allen says:

      It is amazing someone can be an Attorney with ZERO reading comprehension and /or Zero ethics/ truthfulness; OK, forget the latter
      Bitter: find ONE syllable of anything I have ever written that condones murder by Russians or anyone. I directly challenge you to do so. You can’t, because your inadequacies are only exceeded by your deceitfulness.
      For the record if there was a magic gas that only killed Russian soldiers in Ukraine, I’d say use it

    1179. Gordon Allen says:

      All I have ever said( now 1,300 times) is:
      1 Russia is NOT a major conventional military threat and is grossly overrated as one.
      2 Ukraine lacks the offensive power to substantially dislodge them and at some point that will manifest itself clearly. Period/Full Stop
      Your persistent lying about that( and to others here on different topics) exhibit’s your character really clearly, and is why you and your companion in these lies are so disliked on this forum/

    1180. EML says:

      UNH/Granite State Poll
      2024 NH Democratic primary

      Buttigieg 17%
      Biden 16%
      Warren 10%
      Newsom 10%
      Klobuchar 9%
      Sanders 8%
      Harris 6%
      AOC 5%
      Hillary 3%
      Abrams 3%
      Booker 2%
      Murphy 1%

      https://scholars.unh.edu/survey_center_polls/700/

    1181. Tgca says:

      1192. Phil

      I’d be very surprised if people from NYC or Chicago moving here are GOPers.

      I’ve see a tremendous amount of NY license plate cars here this last year in the liberal haunts of Broward County then ever before.

      Many people moving here work remote from NYC. Perhaps they’ll leave in 2024 when Dr. Fow-chee retires and the COVID pandemic is announced to be officially ended and business want people in the office again. I hope so!

    1182. Tgca says:

      1197

      The more gators leaving FL, the better.

      I have my semi-auto Ruger with me at all times when I leave the house. I also carry a keychain size mace can.

      Let some alligator try to attack or rape me, and see what happens.