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    Election 2022 Morning After Thread

    After being accused that my predictions yesterday morning were too pro-Democratic, it turns out I may have been too pro-Republican after all.

    Dan Cox went down in flames. He does stand at 37% at the moment (I had predicted 34%); but, Cox being the face of the Maryland Republicans really hurt Republicans down ballot too. For example, my home county elected a Republican County Executive in 2014 and voted for Larry Hogan in 2014 and 2018. After last night, Republicans in my home county are literally left with a single County Council member (out of five), zero State Senators (out of three), and a single House delegate (out of eight). Add to that every other elected position, both Statewide and Countywide, were won easily by Democrats. The “Meet your Elected Officials” page at the local party’s website will literally have a grand total of two people listed on it.

    But maybe things are looking up for the MDGOP. I keep seeing that it is all Larry Hogan’s fault anyway (the man who by the way won two statewide elections as a Republican in Maryland) because he refused to endorse Cox (a man who actually filed articles of impeachment against Hogan this year before he was the nominee and then humorously complained with seemingly no self awareness about Hogan not endorsing him). Maryland Republicans can finally be rid of the man who actually wins elections and gleefully return to their permanent minority status.

    US Senate prediction – I said status quo except for a Democratic pickup in PA and Republican pickup in NV. That may actually pan out exactly as I stated. Control of the US Senate may actually hinge once again on a runoff in Georgia.

    US House prediction – I said 229 seats for Republicans. It looks like I might have been too optimistic for Republicans.

    Posted by Dave at 10:24 am
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    1,202 Responses to “Election 2022 Morning After Thread”

    1. jason says:

      Maybe if Hogan didn’t have TDS and spent so much time trashing Trump MD GOP would have done better.

      In any case Dave’s predictions were damm good.

    2. jason says:

      Some ballot measures.

      Montana voted for infanticide. Oregon close to passing draconian anti-gun law, but it is close. 2 states refused recreational marijuana.

      Generally it is clear anti-abortion ballot issues are not popular.

      https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/results/ballot-measures

    3. phoenixrisen says:

      GOP sitting at 221 seats when current leaners are counted for the House.

      One thing that I am wondering about. How much of that $125 million chest did Trump invest in his candidates.

    4. Victrc says:

      One of the saddest things I witnessed yesterday was the joy in the posts of people like Robbie et al whi were overjoyed to see the hood guys do poorly…all because if their rabid hate for Trump and, let’s be honest, most conservatives

      I have two small boys whi have to grow up in this country run by misfits, miscreants and just plain bad people. But they don’t care. They only care about hurrying the demise of a great nation…and that’s sad

    5. Brandon says:

      NYT has it at 224-211 right now.

    6. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      November 9, 2022 at 10:17 am

      Jason – If Trump is the nominee, he will get my vote. My question for you is do you think Trump can win in 2024 or do you just think he deserves to run again?”

      Sure I think he can win, especially against Biden or Kamala.

      I don’t think anyone “deserves” anything. It is not about deserving.

      I look at HHR as a microcosm of the conservative thought in America. It is obvious many conservatives here are looking for both a scapegoat and a savior. The scapegoat is Trump and the savior is DeSantis. This is probably happening everywhere.

      I find the argument that DeSantis has a better change at winning a GE than Trump unpersuasive, but it is now a majority opinion here. People love winners, and DeSantis is a winner, albeit partly due to Trump.

      But if I were Trump, I would make a deal with DeSantis. Trump doesn’t run, he endorses DeSantis later in the primaries, and DeSantis pardons him if he is convicted of any witch hunt BS brought by the DOJ.

      This would not alienate the Trump base against DeSantis, would ensure DeSantis won the primaries, and allow Trump to at least pretend he is kingmaker. I see it as the best alternative to a Trump-DeSantis fight and a better future for the GOP.

    7. jason says:

      Of course the pardon part is not part of public discourse.

    8. jason says:

      One of the saddest things I witnessed yesterday was the joy in the posts of people like Robbie et al whi were overjoyed to see the hood guys do poorly…all because if their rabid hate for Trump and, let’s be honest, most conservatives

      I have two small boys whi have to grow up in this country run by misfits, miscreants and just plain bad people. But they don’t care. They only care about hurrying the demise of a great nation…and that’s sad”

      They don’t care because both are trolls that support Biden’s agenda.

    9. Waingro says:

      “But if I were Trump, I would make a deal with DeSantis. Trump doesn’t run, he endorses DeSantis later in the primaries, and DeSantis pardons him if he is convicted of any witch hunt BS brought by the DOJ.

      This would not alienate the Trump base against DeSantis, would ensure DeSantis won the primaries, and allow Trump to at least pretend he is kingmaker. I see it as the best alternative to a Trump-DeSantis fight and a better future for the GOP.”

      This is the ideal scenario.

    10. BayernFan says:

      Trump will probably be indicted for something.

    11. jason says:

      Bonchie has some good points. I don’t agree about McCarthy or McConnell and some other things but it is well written.

      https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/11/09/im-sick-of-losing-i-hope-you-are-too-n656741

    12. jason says:

      BayernFan says:
      November 9, 2022 at 10:59 am

      Trump will probably be indicted for something.”

      Yeah, something, anything.

      Just like he was impeached for something, anything.

    13. jason says:

      Laxalt has like a 30k lead.

      The outstanding mail in votes will favor the Dem 2-1.

      But the biggest advantage she got on any mail dump day was like 4k, and there are only a few days left, and no mail dump is going to be as big as before the election.

      But watch the Dems fabricate drop box and mail in votes in NV.

    14. Waingro says:

      The ensuing GA runoff election will be fascinating. I imagine both DeSantis and Trump will want to become big parts of that campaign. I would love for bygones to be bygones for at least the next 4 weeks.

    15. Country Dick Montana says:

      “Trump will probably be indicted for something.”

      Why would they do that? Given the perfromance of the last 3 election cycles, they may be better off letting him run. He gets indicted if he backs out.

    16. jason says:

      I guess Bayern’s hope that “Warnock will get to 50% during the night” didn’t materialize.

    17. jason says:

      It would help if the libertarian endorsed Walker.

      But sounds like a nutjob.

    18. Waingro says:

      “Bonchie has some good points. I don’t agree about McCarthy or McConnell and some other things but it is well written.

      https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/11/09/im-sick-of-losing-i-hope-you-are-too-n656741

      Very good piece. I didn’t know Trump also trashed Bolduc last night. Is that all he did last night? Good Lord.

    19. jason says:

      Why would they do that? Given the perfromance of the last 3 election cycles, they may be better off letting him run”

      He can run anyway, an indictment doesn’t keep him from running.

    20. jason says:

      Very good piece. I didn’t know Trump also trashed Bolduc last night.”

      Well, contrary to Amoral Scumbag’s BS, Bolduc was not a Trump pick, he didn’t endorse him in the primary and he didn’t endorse him in the GE until the last week.

      Can’t pin Bolduc’s loss on Trump.

    21. Phil says:

      You know, I sat up last night and couldn’t believe my eyes as those returns started rolling in. I literally could not believe what I was seeing. Oh, there were some bright spots here and there. Florida for sure but we knew that was going to happen. Keri Lake will breeze by Hobbes and win the governorship in Arizona, etc as the votes are counted but you can always find isolated races. That’s irrelevant to the big picture.

      ……but I’m scared now. Truly scared. If you can’t win in this kind of environment then maybe the country is just flat gone.

      So depressing.

    22. jason says:

      I suppose he could help Walker with the gay vote…

      https://chaseforgeorgia.com/

    23. jason says:

      I am going contrarian to conventional wisdom on the GA senate race.

      I think Walker is favored, not just because of the Lib (most of those people will probably not vote).

      I think he is favored because as Kemp’s election showed, GA is still slightly reddish.

      If Laxalt wins and it comes down to GA, I think it will be persuasive argument to unite Rs around Walker.

      Of course, he will need Kemp’s help. And Trump’s. And DeSantis’.

      And money.

    24. Greymarch says:

      GOP will never be the majority party in this country until the white-trash males in the GOP finally ditch Trump. Trump’s endorsed candidates, except for Vance, all under-performed last night. The GOP candidates who avoided Trump and made their own way through 2022 did very well last night.

      Hopefully the trash voters in the GOP will start to see DeSantis as their new golden-boy (unlikely, but one can always dream.) If so, in 2024 the GOP will own the presidency, the house, the senate and SCOTUS. The whole damn fed govt will be in the hands of the GOP if these idiot Trumpkins will let go of their obsession with the worst GOP president since Nixon.

    25. jason says:

      Heh, DeSantis would not even exist as a “golden boy” without Trump.

    26. Tina says:

      It would have been nice if Desantis/hee haw would have done something more direct for Walker.

      I mentioned it several times here.

      I really do think they can still help here.

    27. BayernFan says:

      DeSantis-Zeldin 2024?

    28. Country Dick Montana says:

      Last post concerning Trump.

      He was primarily the result of the elite’e ignoring the needs of and disdain for the working class, primarily white males. The perception was that he cared for their concerns and would fight for them. They saw the Establishment GOP as being no better than the Dems.

      While somewhat nihlistic, if they again feel that their needs and concerns are not going to be addresed, and all they have is misery to back to, one can’t blame them if the only thing that they can do is to make sure everyone feels their pain. I have worked primarily with the working class for over 45 years and this is not an unusual attitude among them.

      I have said that Trump was past his sell by date, but I am not sure I see anyone that can simultaneously motivate suburban independents and the white working class base.

      I have also stated that I wanted the people to get a full look at what the Democrats were selling. They did. And they didn’t care enough to do anything about it.

      This is what they want.

      H. L. Mencken stated that “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”

    29. Country Dick Montana says:

      https://libquotes.com/h-l-mencken/quotes/democracy

      Let me ask if all of these don’t apply.

    30. Tgca says:

      24

      Trash voters. If it weren’t for those trash voters, Hillary Clinton would be 6 years into her presidency with a majority Dem SCOTUS and 200+ new federal judges pushing for tranny rights and mutilating children.

      What a really IGORENT and STOOPID view of voters.

    31. jason says:

      Newsome’s win in CA is unimpressive so far. Maybe it will change but so far the R has 42% and is winning San Bernadino, Orange and Fresno and is close in San Diego.

      As Christina Pushaw (love this woman) DeSantis is winning FL by more than Newsome is winning CA.

    32. Country Dick Montana says:

      “until the white-trash males”

      You, sir, are an idiot. A person who probably never sweated a job in his entire life. Those “white trash males” feed you, put a roof over your head, and in my case, provide the energy that powers your computer in order for you to spew your idiocy.

    33. jason says:

      DeSantis-Zeldin 2024?”

      Too male, too white.

      That is a 1950’s slate.

      Sad, but this is where we are.

    34. Waingro says:

      WI finally called for Johnson.

    35. jason says:

      Greymarch is the one who is trash. What a scumbag.

      But as I point here often, his view is typical of the country club snobs.

    36. Phil says:

      Trump is just wearing me out. I’m so tired of him always having to be the center of attention. He never stops. He was a good President. He made the Republicans competitive with working class voters. I’d vote for him again if he were the nominee.

      ……but I’m sick of his ego. Enough. Now we get to watch him take shots at DeSantis for the next year in addition to his constant complaints about the 2020. Make him stop. It’s so old.

    37. Waingro says:

      Decision Desk projects a GA runoff.

    38. jason says:

      I have said that Trump was past his sell by date, but I am not sure I see anyone that can simultaneously motivate suburban independents and the white working class base.”

      Yep, so you have to choose a strategy accordingly.

      The theory that “you just get what you can” is not a strategy.

    39. Tgca says:

      I say to anyone here upset over election to ask themselves if their family or friends contributed to the leftward shifts?

      If your children are being indoctrinated in school and supporting BLM, Antifa, and radical social Justice, why don’t you show them some tough love and force them to pay the consequences. Distance yourself from them. Don’t support or assist them financially if they’re over 18. Kick them out of your house.

      Show them tough love to learn accountability. See how they adapt.

      Most won’t do this though and continue to blame others instead of looking in the mirror.

      Barring any fraud, voters are responsible for election results. No one else.

    40. jason says:

      “Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney, D-N.Y., the chairman of House Democrats’ campaign arm, has conceded defeat in his re-election bid to Republican New York Assemblyman Mike Lawler, a spokesman for the Maloney campaign said. NBC News has not projected a winner in the race.

      The race had been considered a toss-up in recent weeks. Maloney, who has served in Congress since 2013, is head of the House Democrats’ campaign fundraising arm this election cycle. It is very rare for the head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee to lose re-election.

      The race to represent New York’s 17th Congressional District, which covers parts of Westchester and Rockland Counties, had become so competitive that Democrats had to launch an eleventh-hour rescue mission for Maloney.”

    41. Tgca says:

      DeSanctimonius won in FL because FL has moved right over the years and has be one a safe haven for many tired of radical libs elsewhere.

      Rubio, a known quantity in FL did just as well as Ronaldo in the key lib areas.

      One can make an argument that Rubio should also run for POTUS again because he showed he could expand his base among AA and Latino, and he’s had experience nationally.

      Besides, being a Latino, he would we energize minorities more so than DeSanctimonius. The Latino community would love to have a Latino at the top of the ticket.

    42. Tgca says:

      40

      More proof elections are local. That flamer was ousted in NY, albeit in a more competitive district than libs are used to in that state.

    43. Waingro says:

      NewsWire
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    44. Tgca says:

      This may be Rubio’s comeback moment.

      He defied the odds. Albeit, FL is very different than PA clearly.

    45. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      What is unsettling is that Trump actually may believe what he is saying is true:

      “Former president Donald Trump ripped into Republican Don Bolduc following his failed senate bid against Democratic incumbent Maggie Hassan Tuesday night.

      Trump argued in the post that Bolduc’s decision to abandon the stolen election narrative once he made it out of the Republican primary cost him in the general election.

      “Don Bolduc was a very nice guy, but he lost tonight when he disavowed, after his big primary win, his long-standing stance on Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Primary…Had he stayed strong and true, he would have won, easily,” Trump wrote on his social-media platform, Truth Social, Tuesday night.”

    46. Waingro says:

      “Rubio, a known quantity in FL did just as well as Ronaldo in the key lib areas.”

      Not really. DeSantis actually won West Palm Beach.

    47. Waingro says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      BREAKING: Republican Anthony D’Esposito wins election to U.S. House in New York’s 4th Congressional District
      @AP
      projects

    48. Waingro says:

      MI-10 called for John James.

    49. Tgca says:

      Boebert’s twin in Congress, Marjorie Taylor-Greene won in a landslide in GA while Boebert lost by a point in liberal CO.

      Its all about location.

      Both these women are nearly identical in ideology and character. One killed it and one didn’t.

      Trump supported both. Explain that please.

    50. Phil says:

      What is unsettling is that Trump actually may believe what he is saying is true.

      Unfortunately, he’s talked himself into believing that message sells. Right now, I just wish he’d shut the hell up.

    51. Tgca says:

      I would say Crist is much more hated by the GOP in FL than Val Demings, and most GOP voters would crawl over broken glass to oust him.

      People hate Crist for who he is while they voted against Demings because of her politics. That’s a big difference missed in the FL political analysis. It was personal with Crist!

      Rubio’s election result was of his own making and the state moving rightward. He did not win because of Ronaldo.

      The GOP held all but one of every major office in FL, now it holds them all. A continued trend from the last decade plus.

      I live in FL. Those trash Trump voters have voted both for DeSanctimonius and Rubio because of the alternative choices.

    52. Tgca says:

      50

      Is that like how you talked yourself into Baris is a God in polling?

      Baris, like Nate in the past, is probably feeling very humbled today.

      STOP looking for excuses!

      The GOP did well overall, just not as well as you wanted because you were convinced the polls were predicting a blowout.

      Blame the voters in the suburbs and the indoctrinated “yoots” in those areas the GOP fell short.

    53. Phil says:

      The country is pretty much gone. I you are fortunate enough to live in isolated states like free Florida or free Texas consider yourself fortunate.

    54. Tom says:

      I voted for Trump twice and will vote for him again if he is the nominee. That said, I hope he doesn’t run as he seems determined to rip the Republican party to shreds.

    55. Phil says:

      The GOP did well overall?

      The GOP underperformed horribly in this kind of environment.

    56. Waingro says:

      DoBetterAZ.com
      @electionalysis
      CALL: Eli Crane (R) has defeated Tom O’Halleran (D) in the race for Arizona US House CD 02.

      REPUBLICAN GAIN.

    57. phoenixrisen says:

      I wouldn’t say gone Phil. But Trump and McConnell ought to be ripped for now putting more money in taxes that they had to invest in races.

    58. BayernFan says:

      Well…

      assuming no fraud…

      polling sure did s u c k didn’t it? Especially all the GOP leaning ones like Trafalgar and Baris!!!

    59. Waingro says:

      #58, yeah, Baris was proven to be a bit of a fraud this cycle. And he’s too much of a Trump sycophant for my taste — hurts his credibility and analysis.

    60. Tgca says:

      The GOP is expected to get to 225 or so in the House. A comfortable margin given the partisanship of the House with many of those with TDS gone (8 I believe) so they can’t betray party votes.

      In the last 50 years, of 25 House terms, the GOP had control 10 times or 40%.

      In the last 25 years, of 13 House terms, the GOP had control 10 times or 77% of the time.

      Effective with this House election, the GOP will up its control to 11 times or 79% in the last 25 to 27 years.

      Of these 11 wins, the GOP has only been above 230 seats 5 times or 45% so I think their current projection puts them in pretty good standing historically.

      That is an excellent record and something the GOP should be proud of instead of whining about not winning bigger.

    61. BayernFan says:

      there will always be plenty GOP members ready to betray their party. It’s DC, and many go native. Been happening since the 70s at least.

    62. Tgca says:

      55

      Yes! The GOP did well, especially in the House.

      See my post in 60 for historical perspective.

      If Baris and friends had not been pushing a UUUUUGE red wave, you’d otherwise be happy with the results. You got suckered into the hype. You feel let down and hurt because the hype did not pan out.

      A win is a win! Be grateful that the GOP can now STOP the Biden agenda, at least in spending bills.

    63. BayernFan says:

      In future polls, how much should be added to the Dems’ percentage in rust belt states and AZ, NV, etc to adjust for drop box stuffing/VBM/harvesting shenanigans? 2%? 5%?

    64. Tgca says:

      61

      The GOP cleaned House, literally, and 8 CongressCritters who betrayed the party are gone. McCarthy should be able to hold the current group from betraying the party in future votes.

    65. Cash Cow TM says:

      Reposting full DRAFT

      OH MY!
      *************************************
      A pigeon friend just flew in from D.C. where he was visiting relatives.

      Brought back a DRAFT Biden speech the pigeon was able to steal.
      #################################################
      Here it is:

      “DRAFT…NOT TO BE RERLEASED TO PUBLIC YET

      [Biden LOOK INTO CAMERA and say] “Good evening fellow Americans. I am thrilled you heard my message of how you MUST vote D in the 2022 election to PRERSERVE DEMOCRACY! You did that! Our democracy has been preserved.”

      [wait for applause from press corp assembled to die down].

      “I accept the mandate you have given me by your votes on Tuesday, and I am announcing a series of Biden Executive Orders to cement what I call “Democracy In My Wonderful Ixciting Times (D.I.M.W.I.T).”

      “We have SO MUCH DIVISION in our nation. Elections every two years caused this division. Therefore, to end this division, Biden Exec. Order #763 will cancel the 2024 election. If I am unable to finish until 2028, then my Executive order # 763B will install my good friend John Fetterman to be president. PA has never had a Pennsylvanian as President–so that is only FAIR! John and I both commanded separate battalions in Vietnam and I know and trust him.”

      “Now on to Inflation. Biden Executive Order #764 will make businesses sell their products and services at 1972 prices. This will save American consumers BILLIONS OF DOLLARS! BILLIONS!”

      “On to Crime: If people are happy, they do not commit crime. THAT IS A FACT, JACK!”
      [LEAN FORWARD ON PODIUM AND POINT FINGER]

      “Therefore, I am issuing Executive Order #765 to legalize mari.juana–and all other drugs classified as schedule I through schedule IV.”

      “Also, I am issuing Executive order #765B that will REDUCE crime. This EO will allow ONLY one riot per year-date to be determined by each local Antifa/BLM chapter. (LOCAL CONTROL!) Only one day per year will folks be rioting, assaulting, burning police cars and other buildings, looting stores, so 364 days a year will be peaceful. 365 days during leap year.”

      “I am also issuing Executive Order #766 to close all prisons and return the inmates to their communities. That will free up the prison space to allow prisons to be turned into re-education camps for right wing, anti immigrant, anti-women,racist Nazis and fascists. I am confident this will also reduce inflation.”

      “On the southern border issue (and government spending issue): I am issuing Executive Order #767 to fire all U.S. border guards and personnel and provide for FREE and UNFETTERED movement across our southern border–just like we have now between states like TX and AZ. THAT WILL SAVE $2 BILLION PER YEAR TO THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.”

      “And that leads me to WALL building. I am issuing Executive order #768 to build a wall…a wall around the state of WV. It will be built by all the Mexicans, etc. that will come in due to our open border policy. These hard-working immigrants will be paying BILLIONS of taxes to the government!”

      “Along with this, I will issue Executive Order #769 to send ‘our people’ into WV to examine WV’s elections and their voting machines and vote counting. Obviously, there is Republican led FRAUD going on there.”

      “Why do this in WV? Well, let me tell you a story.”

      “Something is DEAD WRONG in WV. Just a few years ago, WV had a D governor, SOS, AG, Auditor, Treasurer, Agricultural Commissioner, D majority State Supreme court, super majority Ds in both State House and Senate. NOW, nearly all these elected officials are Rs! AND the R elected leaders are sitting on BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN RESERVE FUNDS, ANNUAL BUDGET SURPLUSES, UNEMPLOYMENT FUND, ETC. BILLIONS! And yet on Tuesday, the WV constitutional amendment that would allow the legislature to give MASSIVE TAX CUTS TO THE PEOPLE was VOTED DOWN! Do YOU BELIEVE the people would really VOTE DOWNA s proposal to CUT THEIR TAXES?”

      “There are even unconfirmed reports that a cow–A COW!–has an unusual high profile in WV Republican politics.”

      “So, I am issuing these EOs to ISOLATE THIS UNDEMOCRATIC PLAGUE and keep a plague of corruption from spreading and get to the bottom of this.”

      “On to energy issues. My Executive order #770 will IMMEDIATELY stop all coal mining, oil drilling and shut down all coal fired power plants in the U.S. WE NEED TO END GLOBAL WARMING AND SAVE THE GLACIERS NOW!”

      “On Education: I am issuing Executive Order #771 to teach the Three Rs: Radicalism. Reconstructive gender identity surgery, Race Theory, and Remove parents from the schools and school board meetings.”

      “Plus, I will issue Executive Order #772 to ban parents from entering their child’s school or attending school board meetings. IT IS A FACT, that EVERY school shooting was done by either a parent, or a prospective future parent. this will make schools safe again and end children dying.”

      “Speaking of dying, let me end by telling you a story about my son Beau. You know, he was one of the astronauts who died tragically when the Challenger spaceship blew up. When he crashed to earth, I rushed to his side and his dying words were: “Dad, please save the glaciers and end school shootings.” I want to make his dying wishes come true.”

      “Again, THANK YOU–THE AMERICAN VOTERS–WHO IN SUPPORT OF ME HAVE VOTED D AND HAVE PRESERVED DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA.”

      [SHUT MOUTH, END SPEAKING]
      ***********************************************
      [Then do a quick 360-degree spin and smile and wave to the press corp as you moonwalk a-la Michael Jackson off the stage]

    66. George says:

      Charlie Kirk saying with the votes yet to be counted in Arizona he calculates both Lake and Masters will win. And with a win by Laxalt R’s will have 51 seats before the Georgia runoff.

    67. jason says:

      Scary how close Ron Johnson came to losing. Disaster averted by about 25k votes.

      I think the Milwaukee fraudsters probably thought he would win by more and weren’t prepared.

      In 2020 they came up with 100k votes for Biden during the night.

    68. jason says:

      Hmm.. I could see Lake is going to win but Masters was too far behind.

      Hope that is true.

    69. Tgca says:

      67

      BS! No fraud this election.

      If there was fraud, Budd would have lost in NC because as goes NC, goes the nation.

    70. jason says:

      Masters has gained, now only 90k votes down. Lake is down by 12k.

    71. WizardofCozz says:

      #70

      Still a lot of vote left to count, hopefully that is mostly ED votes, as those will most definitely break heavily to R’s.

    72. Cash Cow TM says:

      susyque texted me about:

      “Still a lot of vote left to count, hopefully that is mostly ED votes..”

      ****************************************
      She wants to know how/why they separate votes from people with Erectile Disorders.

      She thought that would be illegal.

    73. Tgca says:

      I think the GOP has opportunity in 2024 too with Dems defending like 21 seats with about 6 or 7 in competitive states while the GOP only has to defend like 10 seats and they’re all in GOP safe states.

      So if the GOP can get to 51 seats this cycle, all is to as bad as peeps feel right now.

    74. Tgca says:

      73

      All is not as bad I meant.

    75. WizardofCozz says:

      #72

      Because the Erectile Dysfunction voters make up a large subset of the AZ voting population!! LOL

    76. Tina says:

      John James wins.

      MI 10th district

    77. jason says:

      If the GOP could still win the senate, I would consider it a good night and it would go along way to temper my disappointment.

      Yes, we will have left a few seats on the table, mainly PA, but Bolduc was always a long shot.

    78. BayernFan says:

      GOP has to do a lot better at GOTV with mail in and harvested ballots. @Justin_hart has a nice thread with numbers. 72 hour GOTV needs to change to 72 days. Or else the GOP won’t win very many elections in the future.

      Sayng “just ban VBM” is dumb. That will never happen. COVID changed it all forever.

    79. jason says:

      Just ban VBM.

      Very few countries have this. Brazil tabulated over 100 million votes in 7 hours. Italy. France.

      A dumb idea.

      Absentee for certain reasons.

      That’s it.

    80. JeffP says:

      Phil…I know what you mean I just can’t handle Trumps demeanor anymore. Everyone I know has tuned him out. I am currently purging my Twitter feed from anyone who still is drinking the Trump coolaid.

    81. jason says:

      GOP has to do a lot better at GOTV with mail in and harvested ballots.”

      The problem with the “ok, if the Dems can steal we can too” is that the Dems have the infrastructure in major inner cities to do it, Rs do not.

      Me doing VBM or ballot harvesting in rural York county is not going to offset cheating in Philadelphia.

    82. jason says:

      I am currently purging my Twitter feed from anyone who still is drinking the Trump coolaid.”

      I am sure that kind of thinking will certainly unify the party and help win elections.

    83. WizardofCozz says:

      #79

      I agree 100%, EXCEPT the states this is happening in isn’t going to change, so we either adapt or continue an uphill fight.

    84. jason says:

      A GOP House and Senate at this point would be winning the war with some casualties.

    85. Tgca says:

      77

      I would say given this electorate, all senate seats beyond AZ and GA were always a long shot.

      People just got hyped up because of how bad things are and believed by normal standards that would translate into a wave.

      A significant portion of the country is embracing socialism so not much you can do about that.

      Again, I blame the parents for ignoring the warnings and allowing their kids to become indoctrinated and the stoopid azz suburban white women voters who embrace what the libs have to offer.

    86. jason says:

      Lake now a 85% favorite on Predictit

      Data Orbital
      @Data_Orbital
      MARICOPA BALLOTS REMAINING UPDATE: ~400k total ballots remaining. 275k were dropped off on Election Day. 125k were mailed back from Saturday to Tuesday.

      Election Day drop off batch likely strongly favor Republicans & the ballots that were mailed back will lean Republican.”

    87. Tgca says:

      80

      Again, childish and stoopid thinking.

      Blame the voters. Not the candidates.

      Do you have any friends or family supporting the libs?

      Ban them from your life too because they’re voting against you

    88. jason says:

      I think VBM cost Oz.

      He lost by 150k votes, but 900k VBN were mailed before the debate.

      It is not hard to believe Fetterman could have lost that many votes due to his debate performance, where viewer picked Oz as the winner by 3 to 1.

    89. jason says:

      JeffP is going to cancel his Trump supporting friends.

      How constructive!

    90. jason says:

      No wonder we lose elections, we have a lot of idiots on our side and I don’t mean Trump.

    91. jason says:

      Also the criticism of Trafalgar and Baris is not really warranted.

      They were off what, a point or 2 in GA, PA, AZ and NV?

      They showed minute leads for the Rs in all these states but nothing dramatic. And in the end Rs could still win 3 out of 4.

    92. phoenixrisen says:

      #90 Now jason, what a complete A-Hole thing to say…..oh wait, that’s impossible for you as you would admit. Ah well, the GOP blew an opportunity but life goes on. Feeling a bit better about Arizona both in governor and Senate race. Lake should win and it is going to be a nail biter for Kelly and Masters.

    93. SoHope says:

      “DeSantis wouldn’t be governor if Trump didn’t endorse him in 2018”

      Sure…Trump gets the same thank you that the person that introduced DeSantis’s grandparent to each other, because without both of them there would be no Gov. DeSantis.

    94. Wes says:

      Here’s a thought about winning Senate races:

      How about not nominating candidates like Bolduc who are going to attack their own party’s Senate leader rather than, you know, the Democrats?

      It makes for ridiculous messaging when someone running for Senate trashes his own prospective leader while largely ignoring his opponent’s leader.

    95. Wes says:

      I think Mastriano hurt Oz significantly. Mastriano ran an underfunded, tone-deaf campaign from end to end and ultimately lost by 12. Oz couldn’t run from him–even though Karl Rove had the strategy of separating them in ads–because both appeared on a stage with Trump right before the election.

      Oz should have known better than to appear alongside such a clearly toxic candidate who never had a remote chance of winning.

    96. phoenixrisen says:

      Hard to argue there Wes. Lots of learning lessons and licking of wounds going on for the GOP.

    97. Tom says:

      94. Wes – and Kari Lake trashed John McCain. I came to despise John McCain, but there was no up side to her doing it. At a minimum, her comments could have been non-attributional and just referred to RINOs in general. Reagan’s golden rule was “speak no ill of fellow Republicans”. Do that in private.

    98. Bitterlaw says:

      The “this is how the Nazis got started” arguments are stupid and insulting to the victims of the Nazis. Don’t give Democrats this much credit.

    99. Waingro says:

      The optimism is increasing about Masters’ chances. Hold on everyone!

    100. Tina says:

      ? Retweeted

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
      7m
      FLIP ALERT: Zach Nunn (R) defeats Cindy Axne (D-inc) in Iowa’s 3rd Congressional District
      @KCCINews
      projects

      ? This seat is flipped from ????

    101. Tina says:

      Looks like lake will win by 3. Per experts.

      We shall see

    102. Waingro says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
      9m
      FLIP ALERT: Zach Nunn (R) defeats Cindy Axne (D-inc) in Iowa’s 3rd Congressional District
      @KCCINews
      projects

    103. Waingro says:

      #100, whoops, sorry, Tina.

    104. Waingro says:

      “Looks like lake will win by 3. Per experts.

      We shall see”

      Baris is claiming high single digits. If that’s true, Masters is going to be dragged across the finish line.

    105. Phil says:

      The right leaning pollsters weren’t off that much. Both Trafalgar and Baris had Oz winning by two points. Totally blew that race as it went two the other way – a very significant miss. Not sure about Trafalgar but Baris had Johnson winning by 4 or 5 and he barely survived by one. That’s significant as well. Had Walker up a point and a half and Warnock ended up ahead by half a point..so yeah there were misses. No doubt. On the other hand Baris got Vance, Laxalt, and when the dust settle will have Lake on the number as well. He also had Masters by one and it seems Masters will come up a point shy when the ballots are complete so you can call that a miss as well when you have the wrong guy up.

      Thing that got me was the House races. Outside of NY state there were so many underperformers in district after district. Every time I looked up there was another battle ground district R’s didn’t capture. In a year like this with this kind of environment you just don’t expect the GOP to come up short in 80% of swing districts.

      It is maddening and perplexing. Horrible night.

    106. Bitterlaw says:

      Mastriano made no effort to reach beyond his base. For a candidate with no money, no strategy, and a no-exceptions policy on abortion, he actually did better than expected.

    107. Phil says:

      High single digits? Man, I don’t see that at all. Heavy Republican ballot advantage going forward, but enough to do that? I’m just not buying that one. Would love to be wrong.

    108. Tina says:

      Wain if larger better.

      I don’t see how the polls could be so off.

      Every close race we lose.

      But when you have vbm and no ability to count like Arizona vs Florida. It’s an issue.

    109. jason says:

      Ok where did I go right and where did I go wrong.

      Wrong

      Mastriano

      I stated no way he loses by more than 10, he lost by 13, maybe 12 as some small counties still have votes. He under performed in the more populous rural counties like York and Lancaster, winning York only by 9. Yeah, he killed it in counties like Bedford (80/20) and he won 50/67 counties but not by the margins I thought he would.

      Zeldin
      I picked him as the surprise. He did surprise 47% against an incumbent in NY is pretty good in NY. But he still lost.

      Right

      Vance
      I never believed this race was close like the polls showed. Or that Vance was a bad candidate. He won by 8 against the best candidate the Dems could field, “moderate” fraud Tim Ryan.

      Lee
      I never believed this was a close race. Utah voters weren’t going to send someone to rubber stamp Biden’s agenda, certainly not a slimy bottom feeder like McMuffin. If McMuffin had any integrity, he would have run as a Dem. Voters understood that.

    110. Wes says:

      Is Rich Baris blaming the voters today for results he doesn’t like?

    111. Cash Cow TM says:

      HEADLINES TODAY

      MSN

      19 ANTI Trump, anti-GOP

      AOL

      15

      They are both having a field day.

    112. JeffP says:

      82 Your dam* right I am changing the algorithm away from the DJT Koolaid drinkers.

    113. jason says:

      Trump gained over a 100k votes in AZ at the very end in 2020, 10k short.

      If the count is any way similar, both Hobbs and Masters should win.

    114. George says:

      @KariLake

      Governor candidate, AZ
      Wow. We’re going to win big.
      Stay tuned, Arizona!
      12:50 PM · Nov 9, 2022
      ·Twitter for iPhone

    115. jason says:

      Sure…Trump gets the same thank you that the person that introduced DeSantis’s grandparent to each other, because without both of them there would be no Gov. DeSantis.”

      Damm…SoHope gives he same credit for DeSantis being governor to his grandparents as he does for Trump.

      Don’t you love it here?

      No. DeSantis can thank his grandparents for existing. He can thank Trump for being governor.

      Hope it is clear now.

    116. JeffP says:

      I am all in on DeSantis is he runs. Which he should now. He can handle anything Trump gives him. We picked up the pieces after the 2016 primary and won. He has a much bigger following than Cruz or Rubio ever did. I am sure they would clear the field if needed. Desantis is the GOP best chance now.

    117. Cash Cow TM says:

      Well I guess the cat is out of the bag.

      Desantis came out a day or so ago and said basically “America is looking for leaders for promote FACTS, not FEARS!”

      I know some of you here will recognize that is Cow phraseology from my recent posts here.

      So, Yes, I am now working for Desantis.
      He pays me well.

      I also supply him with milk and fertilizer.

      If Walt DOES move to Canada, I will be moseying down to FL to live with Ron there.

    118. jason says:

      Outstanding non-provisional ballots in AZ confirmed by counties. Vast majority are election day early vote drop offs.
      Graham: 3,450
      La Paz: 992
      Maricopa: 428,000
      Pinal: 24,863
      Yuma: 8,200

      State: 465,505

    119. Tgca says:

      98

      The Nazi comparison is exactly appropriate and what we’re seeing today.

      People are being vilified by elected leaders and having their gubbermint used against them to systematically target, ostracize and imprison them, as well as control every aspect of their life to ensure compliance with an agenda. And educators and the media are all complicit in pushing such an agenda for the gubbermint. It’s exactly what the Nazis did in the 1930s that helped them achieve power. They made scapegoats of people and turned the public against them.

      The victims of the Nazis deserve no more special treatment then any other group in history marginalized and targeted by dictators.

    120. jason says:

      I am all in on DeSantis is he runs.”

      Thanks for sharing.

    121. Cash Cow TM says:

      Perhaps I will get the chance to connect with and hang out with My old pal, Mr. Vito, the sock.

    122. jason says:

      Of course this assumes, as the pundits do, that the ED drop-off votes trend red. If they do, even by a small percentage, both Rs win.

    123. Victrc says:

      Jason

      What do those outstanding ballots in maricopa mean for masters. The súper majority of those in there already went D. I should know this from 2020, but I’d like more clarity

    124. Dylan says:

      I honestly don’t see it a fait accompli that even DeSantis can put together a winning electoral college coalition. That’s not doom and glooming it, but with all the governorships lost in the Upper Midwest and Mid-Atlantic states, what’s the path for him to win those states in a presidential year with the dems in control of the voting infrastructure?

      I mean, are we looking at another 2004 GWB style EC victory? We barely squeaked that one and we won Colorado and New Mexico and Nevada and Virginia that year and that ain’t happening again.

      Lot’s of strategic soul searching to do.

    125. Tgca says:

      Blaming Trump and hoping DeSanctimonius is your savior is repeating the same mistakes over. You guys did the same with Christie in 2012, thinking he was the future of the GOP because he could get libs to vote for him in liberal areas.

      Ronaldo, like Trump is a narcissist that is a windbag with thin skin that likes to mock and attack others at every turn. That’s fine in FL but wait until he has to defend himself on the national level and you’ll see how distracted he gets if he is constantly fighting with folks and the MSM and Big Tech as hostile to him as Trump.

      He’s got it easy in FL where the GOP controls everything but wait until he has to campaign in states where traditional democratic working class view him with skepticism because he’s a country club liberal.

    126. Paul says:

      For therapeutic reasons, I’ve stayed out of the political news. How was the election?

    127. Marv says:

      #126 Paul.

      Great! GOP wins the House and the Senate will be GOP 51~52.
      GOP lost MD and MA, but will flip AZ and NV.

      Also, Steve Scalise just announced bid to be House Majority Leader.

    128. Tgca says:

      124

      Agree on the EC part. The GOP needs to be able to carry MI, PA, or WI to win and the only GOPer to do that in the last 30+ years was Trump…and he ONLY did that because he built a loyal base with disenfranchised white working class voters who would otherwise support Dems.

      DeSanctimonious has done ABSOLUTELY no outreach to this group whatsoever. Trump worked with many of these types in construction his entire adulthood even though growing up privileged. Ronaldo has no such experience or connection with such voters. I doubt they will embrace him and Trump can easily turn these voters away from DeSanctimonius if they become opponents in a primary.

    129. Wes says:

      No, Tg. Trump barely carried those three states because he faced an ethically challenged, unlikable hag who assumed she had the race won well before it was actually over and let him outwork her to win by the slimmest of margins.

      You’re spewing revisionist history just as you accuse others of doing with Reagan.

    130. Tom says:

      128. Trump connected with these voters because he spoke to the issues that were important to them, not because he had ever gotten his hands dirty. There’s no reason why DeSantis can’t do the same. And he would do it more coherently and is more disciplined.

    131. Ezcellent site to keep track of the counting in Arizona:

      https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer

    132. phoenixrisen says:

      Tg, have you paid attention over the last year like Desantis and ‘Don’t Say Gay’ bill, his fights with Disney, Biden repeatedly attacking him? Desantis hasn’t been fazed at all by all of it and won Florida by 20 points. He’s already been attacked nationally.

    133. Tom says:

      129. Wes, and the Dems were so confident they didn’t bother to crank up their voter fraud machine. Why take the risk when you’re a shoo in. They were not so complacent in 2020.

    134. Phil says:

      Agree, Wes that Hillary was an absolutely dreadful, awful candidate. She was any candidate’s dream opponent. Most unlikeable candidate in my memory, and I’m an old guy so I’ve seen a lot of candidates. Polls showed voters couldn’t stand her. Stupid too as she didn’t even set foot in Wisconsin.

      That said, Trump came damned close to pulling off Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan in 2020 this time with no Hillary as the opponent – certainly performed better than most R nominees have in the Midwest. I’d include Iowa in there as well. He had a working-class appeal no other Republican nominee in my lifetime has ever exhibited. Carried Ohio twice by 8 pts and half a million votes.

      Can DeSantis do that? Man, I hope so. If he’s smart he will start tailoring his message to reach out to those working class types Republicans will be needing in the rust belt. Imagine having that Trump pull with that type of voter without actually being or acting like Trump.

    135. jason says:

      What do those outstanding ballots in maricopa mean for masters. The súper majority of those in there already went D. I should know this from 2020, but I’d like more clarity”

      Az has VBM but also ED drop-off. The VBN/early vote trended blue and was counted first. The ED drop-offs have trended red and thus the Rs are catching up.

      The caveat is always where they are coming from. Not all drop-offs will favor the Rs if they are in blue counties/areas.

    136. Tgca says:

      129. Wes

      So all these working class voters at enormous Trump rallies to this day are there because they don’t like Hillary?

      The same ones that voted for him in 2020 as well in very close state wins voted for him because they don’t like Hillary?

    137. Tgca says:

      130. Tom

      No one disagrees. The point is that DeSamctimonius has made no such effort, not even here in FL.

    138. jason says:

      No, Tg. Trump barely carried those three states because he faced an ethically challenged, unlikable hag who assumed she had the race won well before it was actually over and let him outwork her to win by the slimmest of margins.”

      Hillary was ethically challenged but the reason she lost those states is that Trump had the right message that appealed to a lot of blue collar voters that switched from Obama to Trump. That allowed Trump to flip OH, MI, WI and PA and almost win MN to boot. I don’t think they voted on ethics, they voted on Trump’s agenda.

    139. Tgca says:

      134

      EggsZackly!

      Trump has a special connection with these voters that no Republican POTUS since Reagan has made.

      No other GOPer came close to winning these states the last 30 years, and Trump arguably did it twice.

    140. Wes says:

      You make responses to strawman arguments I didn’t make because you can’t stand the fact that I responded to you, Tg.

      That’s typical. You’re doing nothing but blathering word salad because you’re offended I don’t think Trump is an electoral God.

      He didn’t win by the way in 2020. He won’t win next year either.

    141. Ameister says:

      I used to be on here alot but trump totally turns me off due to personal business interaction previously. None of u would do business with him. Im in Florida and Desantis is certainly a
      Player. I wish we could get Jihn Thune to run. Smart, measured
      And low ego. The polaris synedrome got this board
      Again

    142. jason says:

      Can DeSantis do that? Man, I hope so. If he’s smart he will start tailoring his message to reach out to those working class types Republicans will be needing in the rust belt. Imagine having that Trump pull with that type of voter without actually being or acting like Trump.”

      Unfortunately you can see from the comments that people prefer to stick their heads in sand and pretend Trump made no contribution to attracting these demographics.

    143. ReadyFirst says:

      Interesting perspective on the election from Dick Morris.

    144. VictrC says:

      Let’s all realize that there is no perfect candidate. We. Don’t have anyone that is going to appeal across all subsections of the “Conservative base and coalition”

      Who are the real players with a chance in 2024

      House – No one from the House is going to be a player or get the nomination so lets eliminate those in that bo

      Senate – some re-treads will try (Graham?), some new blood in (Cotton, Hawley) – none of those are serious. Rubio? – No, dont think he can play to both sides. Rand Paul – Come on..,.0 for 200 coming up, Ben Sasse – dont think he’s done himself any favors.

      The only two here who might gain traction are Cruz (who I dont think can win a GE) and maybe Joni Ernst. Now she might be a significant candidate (mid-west, veteran, improved her performance over her first election).

      Gov’s. Obviously Noem will run, as well DeSantis, beyond those two, who could win a GE? Abbott – I don’t think he appeals in upper Midwest.

      Outsiders – Haley – great for the base, bad for MAGA

      So what doers that leave us? We have to have someone who can win against whomever the Dems scrounge up in 2024. Yesterday taught us it doesn’t matter who their candidate is, they will get them votes. So we have to have someone who can quasi-unite our party and reach across the aisle to working class Dems.

      We don’t know if DeSantis is that guy right now, but going from less than 1% victory to 20% in one term is good. He could get us VA, GA, AZ, NV again. Still…will he be Trump lite and too thin skinned.

      Need to pair him with a hispanic, woman preferably.

      Ernst. I don’t know if she has any Presidential ambitions.

      Noem, maybe, but she seems a little light to win the Presidency, see her more of a VP candidate

      So who?

    145. jason says:

      Tgca, you can see the trend here.

      Trump brought/brings no value to the party. DeSantis was created in a vacuum (test tube politician) and Rs need not do anything except run him for President because he automatically wins.

      Simple. Straightforward.

      Doomed to failure, but what the hell, at least he isn’t Trump.

    146. jason says:

      Need to pair him with a hispanic, woman preferably.”

      Really? That is your strategy?

      That is all it takes?

    147. VictrC says:

      Jason

      No, not at all. It’s going to take a lot from whomever we nominate. When I suggested that, it would be to help him, but to be honest, I can’t name one who would help.

      All this shows, or the point I was trying to make, is is one you’ve been making for some time. Trump did put together a coalition, and almost did it a second time, that won.

      I want to win the White House. So, let’s forget about this perfect candidate syndrome, and concentrate on who can win, and what we need to do to help that person win, Trump or whomever else gets the nomination

    148. jason says:

      No other GOPer came close to winning these states the last 30 years, and Trump arguably did it twice.”

      Don’t need them.

      White suburban women!

      Repeat one hundred times whenever somebody talks about trying to expand the R base and maybe they will tire and give up.

    149. jason says:

      Vic, you won’t get far with that. Makes too much sense and it doesn’t disparage Trump or his voters.

    150. Cash Cow TM says:

      OK cumquats,

      Let’s talk about 2024 (and beyond).
      And chance for a Republican presidential VICTORY!

      THIS IS HOW YOU GET TO 270 ECVs FOR AN R:

      First, subtract all the states (and corresponding ECVs) where Rs are 99% sure not to win:

      HA 04
      WA 12
      OR 08
      CA 54…..78 TOTAL D ECVs

      Might as well throw in

      NM 05
      CO 10…..93 TOTAL D VOTES NOW

      And of course throw in:

      IL 19
      MN 10
      WI 10
      MI 15….147 TOTAL D VOTES NOW

      Now you also gotta take off the table because they will go D for sure:

      ME 04
      NH 04
      VT 03
      MA 11
      RI 04
      CT 07….180 TOTAL D VOTES NOW

      Then there is that pesky D stronghold NY

      NY 28…208 TOTAL D VOTES NOW

      And the other blue mid-Atlantic states in presidential years

      PA 19
      NJ 14
      MD 10
      DE 03
      DC 03
      VA 13..270 TOTAL D VOTES YOU WILL NEVER HAVE

      BUT since you need to get 270 ECV votes for your R candidate, and if you take out all the sure D states ECVs and there are only 268 votes left…

      YOU WILL NEVER GET THERE!

      N.E.V.E.R.
      **************************************************
      Not even considering NV or AZ going forward…
      they are D icing.

    151. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Need to pair him with a hispanic, woman preferably.”

      ***********************************
      How about a Hispanic with a pair?

      (pair of ??, or pair of ??)

    152. jason says:

      It was not only the GOP that made mistakes.

      “Democrats spent nearly $200 million on perennial losers Beto O’Rourke and Stacey Abrams—money that failed to make their gubernatorial races against Republican incumbents competitive.”

    153. jason says:

      5 million of that might have elected Mandela Barns…

    154. jason says:

      John Hinckley starting a new political party.

      “I believe in peace, love, equity, LGBTQ rights, abortion rights, animal rights, race mixing, assault weapon ban, sharing the wealth, Green New Deal, Black Lives Matter, Prison reform and good rock ‘n’ roll. Join the John Hinckley Community.”

    155. Tina says:

      Mollie

      @MZHemingway
      ·
      54m
      Remain intrigued by the Deseret News’ serious campaign against Mike Lee, which included recently running polls claiming he was only ahead by 3 points over Mitt-Romney’s Evan McMullin operation. Win will be closer to 15.

    156. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Phil et al:
      The witch of Iowa goes down. Last night, Iowa was a clean GOP sweep. I have thought for some time that Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds and Ron Desantis were the two best governors in the Nation.

      IA-03: Nunn gets the check.

      https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1590439586726977537

    157. Paul says:

      All of Beto’s cash could have made a difference in Wisconsin and North Carolina for the Dems.

    158. Transparent Dem Troll says:

      You have never heard of George Soros? The Dems don’t have cash problems. They have limitless cash. They could build local campaign headquarters buildings out of brick of $100 bills.

    159. Tgca says:

      138

      I would say what really appealed to these working class voters is that Trump reached out to them and connected with them.

      They love Trump not only because he fights for them but he took on the MSM and Big Tech, two groups who looked down on these voters.

      It’s definitely a more personal connection with them just like those that adore Obama.

    160. Cash Cow TM says:

      I too am glad Dem Cindy Acne got beat in IA.

    161. Tgca says:

      140

      As usual Wes tries his psychological warfare to get an upper hand in his failed analysis. It’s his MO. Attack and deflect from the specific issues at hand.

      A very insecure guy that can’t stand when others disagree and he goes all WESCON. He forgot his typical “I’m laughing at you” when we all know it’s more like “I’m seething because I’ve been made an idiot of.”

      I did not predict the big red wave like you did because I’m skeptical of radical Dem supporters like suburban white soccer moms and indoctrinated “yoot” voters. I’ve been arguing against about these fickle voters for some time.

      A number of Trump endorsed candidates who were supposedly low quality also won last night even though some also lost.

    162. jason says:

      Comment on that IA link

      “Zach Nunn is a fascist. I don’t see him retaining this seat in 24’ unless he bucks the fascist trends in his party which I doubt he will”

    163. Tgca says:

      141. Ameister

      Funny you should say that. I was thinking earlier how many turned on Polaris after his bad predictions in one election. Same reaction today.

      I think the GOP did well in this election so count your blessings and move forward.

      I specifically think we should look at state local elections to see how they panned out.

    164. jason says:

      There is no such thing a low quality Trump endorsed candidate.

      Anybody Trump endorses by definition and for all legal purposes and intrinsic values becomes high quality.

    165. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      This should be the next Congressional call. Montana–the new CD(GOP pick-up)– will go to Republican , Zinke. With 95% in, Zinc has an 11,000 vote lead.

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2022/state/mt/house/

    166. Tina says:

      Lake down by 5,000 votes. Still,a lot,out there.

      Abe Hamadeh pulls ahead for the Ag race

    167. Tgca says:

      147

      I say pair DeSanctimonius with Shakira. She’s hot and can bring over Latinos and most men, especially men of color.

      Hips Don’t Lie!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUT5rEU6pqM

    168. Tina says:

      Pima county

      he AZ – abc15 – Data Guru

      @Garrett_Archer
      ·
      6m
      Pima county has counted 22,109 ballots.

      Batch breakdown
      Governor
      @KariLake
      66.1
      @katiehobbs
      33.9

      Senate
      @bgmasters
      63.3
      @CaptMarkKelly
      35

      AZSOS
      @RealMarkFinchem
      65.1
      @Adrian_Fontes
      34.9

      AZAG
      @AbrahamHamad

    169. jason says:

      Zinke trailed all night, had me worried.

    170. Tina says:

      Hamadeh now leads by 3,081 votes for AG.

      Az guru says about 180,000 left in pima

      AZAG
      @AbrahamHamadeh
      66.6 (lead change)
      @krismayes
      33.4

    171. jason says:

      Any other R incumbent lose besides Boebert? And Gibbs?

      As far as I can see GOP picked up 4 in Fl, 1 in VA, 3 in NY, 1 in IA, 1 in TX, 1 in AZ, 1 in MT.

      Net 12 so far?

    172. jason says:

      Net 10.

    173. Tgca says:

      I’m ok with Trump sitting out 2024, especially since I think age can be an issue in relating to younger folks except for maybe Bernie or Walt, not sure who is older actually.

      I do believe having a Latino on the ticket can definitely energize many in the Latino community as well because it’s a source of pride for a growing demographics but I also don’t believe there should be a race litmus test. Make sure any Latino has substance and can actually be someone peeps can see stepping in as POTUS.

      After Kamala, I think most are over the “we need an AA woman” because she doesn’t inspire confidence as a leader. She was more respected as senator than VP.

    174. Gordon Allen says:

      Kayleigh Mcaneny says Trump should stand down for now.
      She must be one of those ” Trump deniers”,as she was only his last Press Secretary.
      Don’t think she’ll be invited over for Christmas.

    175. Tgca says:

      172

      As I said earlier, Boebert and Marjorie Taylor-Greene are nearly identical in politics and personality and Greene won in a landslide where Boebert lost narrowly. Both Trump MAGA supporters.

      The difference? LOCATION. CO vs GA.

    176. Cash Cow TM says:

      “This cycle [2022], all 30 of the seats in the Arizona State Senate are up for election, and Republicans currently control the chamber by a margin of 2 seats. Meanwhile, all 60 of the seats in the House are up for election, with Republicans currently controlling the chamber by a margin of just 3 seats.”

      ***********************************************
      Wonder which party will have control in AZ Senate and AZ House once all the votes are counted.

    177. jason says:

      Kayleigh Mcaneny says Trump should stand down for now.”

      She said he should wait to announce until after the runoff.

      I agree.

      GFY.

      Oh, since you are one ignorant dumbass, TDS is Trump Derangement Syndrome, not “Trump Denier”.

    178. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Republican Ciscamani gets the checkmark in the new AZ CD-6. This is another pick-up.

    179. Waingro says:

      Uh oh.

      Decision Desk HQ
      @DecisionDeskHQ
      Following the latest race calls, DDHQ’s live forecasting model gives Republicans a 61% chance of a majority in the U.S. House.

      Our current projections have the GOP between 212 to 225 seats in the chamber.

    180. Tgca says:

      173

      Good news. So if GOP gets to mid 220s, it will be within range of where it was in 6 of the last 11 House elections it has won in 50+ years. That’s very governable.

      This is good news. Not bad news!

      So cheer the F*CK up peeps.

      We can stop the Biden agenda, at least with respect to additional wasteful spending.

      2024 is very favorable in the senate map with 20+ Dems seats up and a number of them, 6 or 7, in very competitive states whereas the 10 GOP seats up are all in pretty safe GOP states.

    181. NYCmike says:

      Is there a link to find a description of how Florida runs its elections? Do we need to thank JEB!2004 edition for that??

    182. NYCmike says:

      “Uh oh.”

      -Huh?

    183. Meldrim says:

      “Also the criticism of Trafalgar and Baris is not really warranted.

      They were off what, a point or 2 in GA, PA, AZ and NV?”
      ___________________

      Jason, when those pollsters get criticized, it won’t be for being off by 1 or 2 points in those four states (although in PA it was by a bit more than that), it will be for being off by a lot more than that in states like NH, NM, WA and NY. (Maybe Baris didn’t poll all of those, by Cahaly at Trafalgar sure did.)

    184. NYCmike says:

      In other news, which I have not seen anywhere to confirm – Canadian driver dropped off freight today, knew him from many years ago, used to work for someone else we did work for – he is from Ukraine.

      He said that Belarus has started making incursions from the north…….

    185. Cash Cow TM says:

      Walt says it is time to move past the 2022 election results. And for any discussion of any election in the future.

      He says we are on an irreversible downward slope to the ultimate collapse.

      He says he has seen this happen hundreds of times.
      ***********************************************

      Walt suggested we have a discussion concerning what 4 other people would you want with you on a deserted island? And ONE had to be a TV/Movie star, ONE a comedian, ONE politician (past or present), and ONE had to be in the
      music entertainment field.

      Walt said his choices would be:

      TV/Movie star: Jennifer Aniston
      Comedian: Nikki Glaser
      Politician: Kristie Noem
      Music Ent.: Taylor Swift

      Cash Cow’s picks would be
      1. Elsie, the Borden Cow
      2. the Chick-fil-A Cow
      3.

      let me think about this some more.

    186. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Kayleigh Mcaneny says Trump should stand down for now.”

      She said he should wait to announce until after the runoff.”
      _________________________
      I agree, too.
      ************************************
      Cow suggests a great date would be January 5, 2403.

    187. Meldrim says:

      The last I heard (maybe an hour or two ago), the NYT believed that what was still out in CO-03 would pull Boehlert to victory.

      Gibbs wasn’t an incumbent (he defeated Meijer in the MI-03 GOP primary after the Democrats ran ads to prop him up, spending more on them than Gibbs’s entire primary-campaign budget), so that wasn’t an R incumbent loss; neither will Kent (who finished ahead of Jamie Herrera Beutler in the WA-03 jungle primary) if he ends up losing, as appears likely right now, nor Oz in the PA Senate race. If Schweikert in AZ-01 and Calvert in CA-41 end up winning (they’re behind right now, but there’s still a lot of ED vote remaining to be counted), then I think that no GOP incumbent, either House or Senate, will have lost his seat. (Am I missing anyone?) Not that that’s much consolation after a very disappointing election.

    188. Meldrim says:

      #186, Sheeple, I hadn’t seen your post when I posted that Boehlert may not have lost after all.

    189. Meldrim says:

      With a tad less than 67% of the estimated vote reporting, Kari Lake is at 49.9% (in a two-person race, so she’s still trailing) and Blake Masters is at 46.6% (in a three-person race in which the Libertarian is at 2.2%). I think that if Lake can finish at 52.5%, she will sweep Masters in as well.

    190. Tina says:

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      Decision Desk HQ projects George Santos (R) wins election to the U.S. House in New York’s 3rd Congressional District.

      D to R Flip.

      #DecisionMade: 5:59pm EST

      Follow more results here: https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    191. Tgca says:

      Good for Boebert!

      It puts to rest the silly argument that ultra Trump supporters lost elections and that the trend for wins and losses were the same in all states.

      Moving beyond Trump is not the issue. The issue is what are the differences in the candidates in each race.

      Fetterman is for criminals. Oz was not. More PA others agree with Fetterman and support criminals over common sense justice.

      I hope Philly crime wave skyrockets. Not sure it will really change those voters minds on who to vote for but it’ll be fun to watch them whine about crime yet justify their vote patterns.

    192. Tina says:

      Decision Desk HQ

      @DecisionDeskHQ
      ·
      37m
      DDHQ Race Update (est. 93% in): CO-03

      Adam Frisch(D): 152,740
      (50.36%)
      Lauren Boebert(R): 150,535
      (49.64%)

      Follow more results here:

    193. bob says:

      Fritsch 154222

      Boebert 154060

    194. Livinthedream says:

      From the AP

      Colorado · District 3
      96% reporting

      Adam Frisch
      Democratic Party
      50%
      154,122 votes

      Lauren Boebert
      Republican Party
      50%
      154,060 votes

    195. Tina says:

      Decision Desk HQ

      @DecisionDeskHQ
      ·
      1m
      Decision Desk HQ projects Mike Lawler (R) wins election to the U.S. House in New York’s 17th Congressional District.

      D to R Flip.

      #DecisionMade: 6:00pm EST

      Follow more results here: https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/national/2022-house

    196. BayernFan says:

      Most votes outstanding are from Dem areas.

    197. Phil says:

      You have to admit, GOP in New York held up their end yesterday. Outside of Florida about the only state to come close to overperforming. I give a lot of credit to Zeldin at the top of the ticket.

    198. Tgca says:

      I have a theory on FL Dem defeats.

      Rubio beat Deming by ~ 17%
      DeSanctimonius defeated Crist by ~ 19%

      Clearly the same trend.

      I think probably most GOP voters don’t agree with Demings’ politics but harbor no ill feelings towards her personally.

      I think probably most GOP voters detest Crist with all their being and would crawl over broken glass to vote against him, as well as many Dems not stomaching him either.

      This may be the reason for the 2% differential on wins between Lil Marco and DeSanctimonius.

      Just a theory.

    199. ReadyFirst says:

      201. Agree 100%. Many Dems I speak with don’t like Crist either. Thought the same thing.

    200. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Among those who now see Mr DeSantis as a stronger White House contender than Mr Trump was Mike Cernovich, a right-wing commentator who was once described by Politico as an “indefatigable Trump cheerleader”.

      “Trump has zero shot at 2024 in general. After tonight, this isn’t up for debate,” Mr Cernovich tweeted on Tuesday night. “DeSantis in 2024 or accept total defeat”.”

    201. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Could you explain to people viewing who don’t know politics closely and as well as you do, how historic last night was?” Scarborough asked Carville.

      “I’m going to try because I’m sitting here saying if you put everything in a computer, we should have lost 57 seats. Four, five Senate seats, and the reason is Donald Trump. He brought people out to vote against this. He had a suppressive affect. He out trumped inflation and crime. He out trumped the normal cycle of the first off-year election with an incumbent president. When political historians unearth this they are going to find so much more that we missed this morning.” Carville explained.”

    202. jason says:

      Our current projections have the GOP between 212 to 225 seats in the chamber.

      Don’t see how 212 is possible unless the GOP loses all the CA seats.

      4 in Fl, 3 NY (4?), 1 IA, 2 AZ, 1 TX, 1 MT, 1 MI

      Could lose 1 NC, 1 CO, 1 MI, 1 WA and 1 AZ.

      Still would net 8/9.

    203. jason says:

      I guess Flores lost in TX….so one loss in TX too

    204. jason says:

      Crist just joined the Green Party and will run for Register of Wills.

    205. Meldrim says:

      True, Flores was an “incumbent” (elected to a different district a couple of months ago).

      And the GOP lost other seats due to redistricting (off the top of my head, 1 in NY, 1 in PA, 1 in WV and 1 in MI).

    206. jason says:

      DeSantis in 2024 or accept total defeat”

      I can see it now, in big bold letters on the DeSantis podium

      “Vote for me or accept total defeat”

      Catchy.

    207. jason says:

      What America voted for…

      Reporter: “Do you think @elonmusk
      is a threat to national security?”

      Biden: “It’s worthy of being looked at.”

    208. Phil says:

      207

      LOL

      Well, old Charlie is kind of running out of political parties to join. Green? Hey, why not?

    209. Meldrim says:

      I am so pissed at Crist. He already had lost a gubernatorial run as a Democrat (in 2014), but he has never lost a U.S. Senate run as a Democrat, only as a Republican (in 1998) and as an Independent (in 2006). He should have asked Demings to run for governor this year so that he could earn the Senate Loss Triple Crown by losing to Rubio as the Democratic Party nominee.

    210. Meldrim says:

      Boehlert cuts the lead to 73 votes:

      District 3
      97.38% Est. Vote Counted
      *Incumbent
      Candidate Total Votes % Votes
      Adam Frisch (D) 155,579 50.0%
      Lauren Boebert (R)* 155,506 50.0%

    211. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Trump may be ready to announce.

      Just received this in a fundraising appeal:

      “Friend,

      I have an exciting announcement that I can’t wait to share with you on November 15th.

      I’m going to announce something HUGE at MAR-A-LAGO, …”

    212. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Crist just joined the Green Party and will run for Register of Wills.”

      susyque wants to know why they in FL do they register only people who are named Wills as the last name?
      Or is it for people whose first name is Will?

    213. Cash Cow TM says:

      Trump is going to auction off the classified nuclear secrets papers he has?

    214. Meldrim says:

      He’s going to announce that Truth Social will now be bigger and better than ever.

    215. Bitterlaw says:

      Trump is going to announce that Jason nominated him to be an A-hole. Interview is next week.

    216. jason says:

      He has potential, what can I say..

    217. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “@Robillard
      And with this race call, every single Republican who won their primary with help from Democratic meddling has lost in the general election”

    218. NYCmike says:

      Always flabbergasted by the lower turnout in midterm election years………has that gone on throughout history…..meaning BEFORE TELEVISION.

    219. NYCmike says:

      What I mean is – did we as a citizenry always place more emphasis on Presidential elections? I would have thought before TV each election was pretty close in turnout, with maybe even local races having more turnout, since the federal government stayed relatively small up until the last century (first Wilson & then FDR).

    220. Tina says:

      It’s ovah.

      Adam Paul Laxalt

      @AdamLaxalt
      ·
      7m

      US Senate candidate, NV
      Of the 84,000 votes left to count in Clark County, Cortez Masto could win 63% of them and she would still lose.

      That doesn’t even take into account the gains we will make from rural counties.

    221. Bitterlaw says:

      Ask Walt. He has seen every American election. He also served in the Roman Senate.

    222. JeffP says:

      DeSantis won demographics that the GOP doesn’t win. Don’t believe the lie that Trump is the best candidate to win white collar voters.

      Tuckers monologue tonight was the best take I heard all day.

    223. Tgca says:

      Moron!

      He’s about to lose the House and possibly the Senate and have his entire agenda stalled for the next 2 years and he’s acting like he has a mandate.

      Joe Biden Defiant: Red Wave ‘Didn’t Happen’ and ‘I’m Not Going to Change Anything

      When reporters asked the president about the future of his agenda and what he would change, Biden replied, “Nothing.”

      Voters, he argued, were “just finding out what we’re doing” on inflation.

      “The more they know about what we’re doing, the more support there is,” he claimed.’

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/09/joe-biden-defiant-red-wave-didnt-happen-and-im-not-going-to-change-anything/

    224. jason says:

      “The Republican elites make their move against Trump”

      The GOP deserves to be a permanent minority.

      “Don’t believe the lie that Trump is the best candidate to win white collar voters”

      White collar? Zzzzz…

    225. jason says:

      I read Surber’s article. Weak tea.

      But whatever, if all these a-holes think the GOP will benefit from a civil war, go to it.

    226. Skippy says:

      Jason,

      It’s not a civil war…it’s called competition.

      We in GOP can do a lot better than an unfit emotional narcissistic basket case in Donald Trump.

      This is all so very simple. It’s time to move on and you can’t seem to stop washing Trump’s balls.

    227. ReadyFirst says:

      Data Orbital
      @Data_Orbital
      Maricopa County – 62,034 Ballots Reported

      Kari Lake – 28,058 (45.9%)
      Katie Hobbs – 33,018 (54.1%)

      ~360,000 Ballots left in Maricopa

      Reminder(!!!) – This drop is only about 15% of the total ballots remaining and the batch we expected to be the worst for the Republicans.

      #AZ

    228. jason says:

      We in GOP can do a lot better than an unfit emotional narcissistic basket case in Donald Trump.”

      Fact not in evidence.

    229. Tgca says:

      205. Jadon

      I believe the GOP had 11 seats in CA and already lost 6 and held on to 3 so the most they could further lose looks like 2 of the remaining 15 uncalled CA seats.

      The GOP started with 11 and lost 6 but held onto 3 so depending on how the last 2 seats they previously had go that have not been called yet, they could end up with keeping anywhere from 3 to 5 of those 11 seats. But they also picked up 3 seats so depending on how the last 2 seats go, they could get from 6 to 8 seats in CA and perhaps more if they pick up other seats Dems had that were not called yet. So it appears the most the GOP loses in CA is 3 to 5 seats. Still bad but not enough to knock them below 218 unless they lose numerous other outstanding seats throughout the country.

      According to RCP, the GOP has gained a net 7 seats to get them to 219 so if they lose the remaining 2 CA seats then that gets them to 217 and they would have to lose every other outstanding seat in all states to lose the House. Not likely and not sure if RCP is the latest and greatest count either.

      Also, not sure how the one CA lost seat impacted the GOP.

    230. NYCmike says:

      From Instapundit……small note to back this up – my wife warned me not to get overconfident, as she is a big fan of Sliwa, who she enjoys listening to on the radio. She is a smart gal……she married me, after all. 🙂

      “Curtis Sliwa’s coverage of this election from his perch at WABC-Radio illustrates a couple of things:

      1. That age, experience, and knowledge of history MATTER….deeply
      and that

      2. What they **used to** preach at Columbia J School is so true: You have to GO THERE. You have to see everything from ground level, you have to walk the streets, you have to wear out your shoes, you have to keep your eyes and ears open.

      Sliwa, aged 68 (and 3/4), is the only talking head I know of who was skeptical of a Zeldin victory and his analysis this morning outlining how he arrived at that prediction is full of concrete, ground-level anecdote and knowledge of New York gubnatorial races past.

      To any one I know who’s “getting up there” or is “up there” and worrying that you are irrelevant: The eternal verities ARE the eternal verities. Krime Wave Kathy Hockum won, he says, because she salted money all over upstate and then brought a ferocious old-fashioned, door-knocking ground game to “hipster millenial” (Curtis’s term) neighborhoods in Brooklyn. He saw both of these strategies in action with his own eyes because he’s not afraid of hard work and because he’s insatiably curious. His body is a wreck. He still lives with the effects of being hit in the gut at close range by a Mafioso’s exploding bullet, but he is driven by his soul.

      So do not be intimidated. OWN your time on the planet with the arrogance it deserves. Sliwa does everything with a “listen to me” swagger and he gets so much air time at top-rated WABC that he jokes “ABC” stands for “Always Broadcasting Curtis.” They’ve ceded him so much air time because of predictions like this.”

    231. Tgca says:

      227.

      The demographics DeSanctimonious won in FL were also won by Lil’ Marco so maybe Rubio should run for POTUS again since he’d be more likely to attract more Latin support than DeSanctimonious.

      That would be the best strategy in a GE.

      Besides, Lil’ Marco ran a national campaign before so he has experience and lessons learned and would get big backers.

    232. NYCmike says:

      Fingers crossed that Lake, and maybe even Masters, can eke out a win in AZ.

    233. NYCmike says:

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/trumps-shadow-loomed-over-pennsylvanias-republican-bloodbath

      “The state party leadership and the Republican strategist class only enhanced the problem for the governor’s race by keeping nine candidates in the competition — and themselves employed and well paid.

      “There is a lot of blame to go around in this state,” said one GOP Pennsylvania-based strategist who had a candidate in the governor’s race, “including myself. But you cannot ignore the biggest elephant in the room — Donald J. Trump.””

      -What I have said for a long time – they always blame Trump and/or “deadenders” (deserve blame, for sure!), but never look at themselves as deserving of any, which they are. Both sides are power-hungry, money-grubbing SOBs.

    234. Tina says:

      You mean they never look at (blame) Biden’s Beotch?

    235. Phil says:

      Lake will absolutely win. That’s not a question.

      290,000 election day votes. Heavy Heavy Republican. Today’s 60K dump was the worst for Republicans. Last of the pre-weekend mail ins. Lake still only lost them by 4. Tomorrow will get the dump from those ballots received Monday. Smaller dump. Even less Democratic. Then they will dump the big 290K and it takes Lake well up. Also, there are the other rural dumps which will add to the R margin.

    236. Phil says:

      Masters will have to eek it out. Lake will win comfortably.

    237. NYCmike says:

      I’ll be happy when they count the last vote and all of the car trunks have been opened.

    238. NYCmike says:

      https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-red-wave-that-wasnt/

      “No courage to confront the important issues head on. It has fallen to Matt Walsh, Chris Rufo, Libs of Tiktok, and others to take on the scourge of gender ideology. With the exception of DeSantis, no other major elected Republican politician has wanted to touch wokeness. I cannot understand why. The country is falling apart, the libs are becoming totalitarians who are coming after children, and most of the GOP just sits there with its thumb up its backside, running on the thrilling platform of “hey, at least we’re not the other guys.” No, forget it. That’s over.”

    239. Tina says:

      They are saying not until next week. Phil. The same for nevada (Clark county). This is a sheot show.

      And they will “process” more incoming ballets.

      They fixed nothing since 2020.

      But at least we have no mean tweets.

    240. NYCmike says:

      Tina,

      It’s absolutely disgusting.

    241. Tina says:

      I guess now is fine, but why not a few weeks ago?

      Hee Haw will work closely width Hershel Walkers campaign during the run off.

      Maybe Desantis can do someth8ng too.

    242. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      *@realDailyWire
      DeSantis: “We have embraced freedom. We have maintained law and order. We have protected the rights of parents. We have respected our taxpayers, and we reject woke ideology…We will never ever surrender to the woke mob. Florida is where woke goes to die!””

    243. BayernFan says:

      The Dems are finding enough mail ballots in Clark County to steal the seat that Laxalt won.

    244. Tgca says:

      These people are crazy!

      Fetterman for POTUS. REALLY?

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/katy-tur-on-acid/

    245. Tgca says:

      This will drive the GOP whiners bonkers because they need to blame someone like Trump because they can’t accept they got duped – AGAIN – by bad polling and believed all the hype even when it seemed too good to be true.

      Trump response to midterms :
      While in certain ways yesterday’s election was somewhat disappointing, from my personal standpoint it was a very big victory – 219 WINS and 16 Losses in the General – Who has ever done better than that?

    246. Tgca says:

      Another RINO trying to blame MAGA for winning the House and possibly the Senate.

      If anyone is to blame for lower than expected results, look at the Congressional GOP leadership. Perhaps it’s time for a change. They are responsible for getting candidates elected not an ex-president.

      Governor Chris Sununu (R-NH) said Wednesday on FNC’s “Your World” that there was no red wave because voters feared former President Donald Trump and the candidates he endorsed were extremists.

      https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/11/09/nh-gov-sununu-voters-rejected-trump-gop-extremism/

    247. Tgca says:

      Mitch McConnell Failed to Make Election a Referendum on Biden Agenda, Democrats

      They blame Mitchie for not outlining a legislative agenda, like the GOP did in 1994. Instead, he just passed out money at will to certain candidates but had no cohesive leadership messaging for the party.

      Rick Scott tried to do obe earlier in the year if you recall and got slapped down by Mitchie for it pulling rank.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/09/club-for-growth-mitch-mcconnell-failed-to-make-election-a-referendum-on-biden-agenda-democrats/

    248. Tgca says:

      More evidence of what I’ve been arguing why we are moving towards AMERIKA. It’s the spoiled kids stoopid!

      Exit Poll: Generation Z, Millennials Break Big for Democrats

      We went from the Greatest Generation that saved the world in the 1940s to the Worst Generation today that embrace communism and socialism over democracy and self-identify with preferred pronouns.

    249. Tgca says:

      Good article on how Dems meddling in GOP primaries paid off but ironically cost the architect of it his own seat in NY.

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/democratic-meddling-republican-primaries-effective

    250. Tgca says:

      Grotesque obese tranny wins beauty teen pageant and scholarship meant for girls.

      This is where the country is going – woke madness takes over the country pushed by Dems.

      I’m sorry to be mean but HE is beastly compared to the other teens. He looks like a drag queen and not a girl.

      https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/11/09/video-biological-male-wins-miss-america-in-new-hampshire-teen-beauty-pageant/

    251. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      IMO, place this Congressional race in the GOP win column: NY CD-22 results:

      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/08/us/elections/results-new-york-us-house-district-22.html

    252. Gordon Allen says:

      TGCA,again w the ABD( anybody but DeSantis) again.
      Rubio was greatly helped by DeSantis coattails,and he ran 3 points behind him
      It’s not clear Rubio is stronger with Hispanics than DeSantis is.
      Apparently winning by 20% indicates DeSantis didn’t expand his base enough??
      Who do you think those votes came from?
      My understanding is DeSantis carried every age and income bracket.

    253. Gordon Allen says:

      Out of curiosity I went to the Gateway Pundit site,and found the claim that the ” Establishment ” and “RINO ‘s” are conspiring with DeSantis to throw Trump off his throne!!
      I despair at the total loss of common sense in the country

    254. Bitterlaw says:

      256 As my grandmother used to say, I am glad that I am closer to leaving this wold than entering it.

      It is ironic that the most anti-girl and anti-women people are Democrats.

    255. Bitterlaw says:

      World

    256. Country Dick Montana says:

      You know perhaps a better candidate than Desantis would be Younkin from Virginia. He won in a state that is much harder for the GOP than Florida.

      Of course we could also have primary elections and see how things fall out.

    257. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Earlier in the week, we noted that it appeared that Donald Trump was losing his fastball in calling Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, a potential rival in 2024, “Ron DeSanctimonious.” “After nearly every one of his handpicked candidates in the House and Senate lost on Tuesday, potentially keeping a Republican majority in the House very small and likely giving away the Senate (again), some conservatives are saying it might be time to go to the mound and take the ball from him.”

      from the New Conservative Post

    258. Tina says:

      Chris Sununu sounds like an idiot.

      Yes,, trumps extreme candidates are to blame for the lack of red wave.

    259. Tina says:

      Kristi Noem is an interesting Presidential candidate possibility.

      Better than all other Rs on handling Covid.

      No lockdowns,

    260. SoHope says:

      Hey Trump fan, you want Trump to be your nominee and you think he will definitely win in 2024. The burden of proof is on you. Win have the evidence on 2018, 2020, and 2022 that say he won’t win.
      I challenge him to take himself to GA and focus on winning GA for Hershel Walker (his candidate). Announce that a vote for Walker is a proxy vote for him being president in 2024. If he can’t get at least 52% in GA then he has no chance of winning nationwide and shouldn’t run….Deal?

    261. DW says:

      Its what I said before election day. No matter the results it would be tragic. To have ANY portion of the electorate support what has happened the last two years, much less HALF of the electorate is tragic. Its just too much to overcome.

      George Soros and his money
      The Dem cheerleading media
      The brainwashing universities
      The ballot harvesting

      Half the country wants this inflation, wants to ban gasoline powered cars, wants socialism and communism, and they want to pressure boys to receive castration and girls double-mastectomy.

      They want to destroy retirement savings, they want to worship and serve big government like little meaningless ants in an ant colony.

      They want the Great Depression II in the next two years.

      They are going to steal the Laxalt senate seat, so it won’t matter if Walker wins the runoff, which he likely won’t due to Atlanta.

      I am not so sure the GOP is going to hang on to win the house majority either. Look at all these California seats where not even 50% of the votes have been counted.

      Sure we had some bright spots like Florida, and New York in the house races, but this country is dying by its own hand.

      This once great country is reduced to a few geographic pockets of its former glory, but there is no path to getting it back–no means by which to ever win a national election again.

    262. DW says:

      Tina, you posted that comment from Laxalt saying that Masto would have to get more than 63% of what’s left…that’s not good news, that’s bad news, as that will be child’s play for these election officials to just hold the election open until they get what they need. 63% will be easy. I have seen this movie many times before and it always ends the same way.

    263. jason says:

      The best analogy I have for all the TDS morons who want to “move on” from Trump is if after Moses had led the Jews to the Promised Land some MDS people started convincing them to “move back to Egypt”.

    264. Bitterlaw says:

      DW – You also guaranteed the election would be stolen from Youngkin. It wasn’t.

      In 2004, there were posts at HHR that the Democrats were finished as a national party. They weren’t.

      Tuesday’s election results were generally bad but you either stay in the fight or you don’t.

    265. jason says:

      Rubio was greatly helped by DeSantis coattails”

      LOL

      If you wanted confirmation Neville Allen is an idiot, there you have it. I will mark this as stupidest post for November, I know it is early.

      In 2016 Rubio crushed his Democratic opponent by 25 points. In 2018 DeSantis won his election in FL by less than a point.

      Rubio doesn’t need DeSantis to win elections in Florida.

    266. jason says:

      Tuesday’s election results were generally bad but you either stay in the fight or you don’t.”

      Yeah, DW, it is all good and will be fixed by the next election.

    267. DW says:

      Bitter, I am staying in the fight, but wow, Tulsi Gabbard is all alone! There should be millions like her who leave the Democratic Party because they cannot stay silent and support a party open to castrating little boys on the lie that a surgeon can make them girls.

      Biden’s administration was the worst two years on record, bar none, and even good presidents will get a backlash and lose house seats on the first mid-term. The fact that half the country has been duped into thinking that these last two years were great shows how far gone we are.

    268. Bitterlaw says:

      I heard the Moses analogy during an interview with Santorum yesterday. He said Trump would do whatever he wanted but maybe it was time to look to a Joshua to keep his movement going.

    269. Bitterlaw says:

      I think Lincoln had the worst 2 years to start a term but we should ask Walt.

    270. SoHope says:

      That Moses analogy is probably one of the better ways to tell hardcore Trumpsters that their party is over. We’ve had 3 elections since 2016 that show us that he won’t be able to take us to the Promised Land.

    271. Tina says:

      Yes, douchey and the ag did a heck of a job brownie in Arizona.

      2 years to fix this.

      Compare Florida counting vs Arizona

    272. Tina says:

      Dw, I know. I did not like that comment, but it is what it is.

      Until we get the governors office, election reform in Nevada wont happen.

      Clark county is counting until next week.

    273. jason says:

      He already took us to the Promised Land. The problem with all the TDS morons is that they just don’t like the route he took to get there.

      But hey, let’s beg Romney to run again.

      I hear he is really good in the suburbs.

    274. Tina says:

      Isn’t Mitchie in charge?

      Sean Davis

      @seanmdav
      I’m really looking forward to the Mitch McConnell, I mean WSJ op-ed, about how the GOP winning the popular vote is due to McConnell, the least popular national political leader in the country, but all the Senate losses are Trump’s fault because Trump is Senate minority leader.

    275. Skippy says:

      Nobody is begging for Romney to run again.

      Trump is unfit. Silly deflections is no defense to this simple truth.

    276. jason says:

      hardcore Trumpsters”

      Zzzzzz…

      I am hardly a hardcore Trumpster. Few here are as critical of him as I am. He is an crony capitalist opportunist and has only been a R and conservative in the last 5 minutes of his political life. He is a protectionist and isolationist. He is a narcissist and a blowhard.

      But he is the only R that I see that has put together a winning coalition (one successful and one stolen) in the last 2 decades. He delivered a conservative SCOTUS for a generation and a federal bench to at least temper 10 years of Clinton, Obama and Biden picks, not to mention a slew of other accomplishments that benefited conservatives.

      But heck, now we have the Golden Calf, Ron DeSantis. We don’t need Trump, his coalition, or his supporters. The Golden Calf will take us to the promised land.

    277. Todd McCain says:

      If I’m Walker, I am having the Kemp people run my runoff campaign. Kemp got 200K more votes than Warnock.

    278. jason says:

      Until we get the governors office, election reform in Nevada wont happen.

      Clark county is counting until next week.”

      Won’t happen anyway because the legislature is Dem.

      Predictit has CCM now at 90% to win. I don’t think it is based on any real data except the certainty the Dems in Clark Co will steal it.

    279. Tina says:

      Hee haw should have helped walker to begin with. However, hee has said he will coordinate now with Walker campaign for the run off.

      He and Desantis can help here. Hopefully Desantis does.

    280. jason says:

      Kemp got 200K more votes than Warnock.’

      Not sure if it because there is any problem with Walker’s campaign, anymore than with Vance’s who trailed DeWine in Ohio.

      Kemp is an incumbent governor, and like DeWine in OH he had much better name recognition in GA than a newcomer like Walker.

      That being said, Kemp could really help. I saw him on FOX, he said he was all in for Walker. Hope it is true.

    281. Cash Cow TM says:

      “256 As my grandmother used to say, I am glad that I am closer to leaving this wo(r)ld than entering it.”
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Bitter,

      Walt feels the same way.

      Walt has always been a positive, happy guy.
      But he told me that things look bleak when he looks into his crystal ball.

      ****************************************
      Here is what he said:

      NOBODY today who is 18-40 years old (or under) remember life in the U.S. under President Ronald Reagan. Reagan was the last good president we have had. The last 3 good presidents (who were also good people) were Truman, Eisenhower and Reagan.

      Reagan was the last uniter/unifier. He was last to be able to successfully work with D legislative leaders to get them to support much of his ideas. He was an excellent communicator and was deeply committed to, and advocated for, the political conservative views and supported the underpinning American values that made this nation great. All presidents since Reagan had MAJOR flaws in who they were, how they operated as president, major policy stumbles, etc. that caused them to NOT be in the GREAT president category.

      I am not downplaying Trump’s successes as president. But the guy is a train wreck and a divider. My biggest kudos to Trump for STOPPING the lunatic Hillary from reaching the presidency.

      Walt says he always wanted to live until 2032. But he sees the futility of thinking that Rs will ever regain the presidency and both houses of Congress. 270 ECVs for any future D is almost a lock. 60 years ago, ME, NH, CN, NJ, PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, CO were almost guaranteed to back R candidates for president. CA was doable for Rs. But we have been deflating as a country and dying by a thousand cuts over the last 4,5,6 decades as the nation (under both R and D presidents) made wrong turns down steep slopes over and over and over.

      The Lucy’s are now in charge and will forever pull the football away from and thwart good ol’ Charlie Brown. The “Lucy’s” have convinced the majority of voters that up is down, good is bad, bad is good, evil is good, wrong is right non-truth is truth, good values are now bad values.
      ______________________________________________

      Walt now hopes he finally checks out of here before 2032. Because he has seen the steady national decline and it deeply saddens and depresses him and he sees no path in the future where we as a nation can correct all these steep downhill wrong turns and ret the train back on the right track.

    282. jason says:

      Btw, I am officially changing DeSantis’ name to Golden Calf.

      Just so the TDS morons know who I am referring to, some are not that bright.

    283. Cash Cow TM says:

      “DW says:
      November 10, 2022 at 8:37 am”

      ***********************************

      DW,

      AGREE 100%.

    284. Cash Cow TM says:

      “DW says:
      November 10, 2022 at 8:37 am”

      ***********************************

      DW,

      AGREE 100%. Good post.

    285. DW says:

      Lombardo is ahead 34k and Laxalt just under 16k. And its not called for Lombardo. In other words, Laxalt is done. Its over. Unless Masters pulls out a miracle and Walker wins a runoff, we are back to hoping for bread crumbs from Manchin.

    286. Tgca says:

      265

      Agree on Noem probably did best on lockdowns of all states though her state is smaller and more rural, but they did have high COVID infections as a percent of their population but she still did the right thing.

      DeSanctimonious had us in varying stages of lockdowns through late 2020 even though his sycophants pretend FL was open when it was NOT!

      I don’t fault him for some of those when the pandemic hit some crowded areas in FL but it’s an outright LIE to pretend FL was open and free. It’s revisionist history.

      I traveled back and forth a few times in 2020 from Jersey to FL during 2020 and the lockdowns were pretty much the same in both states during the months of April thru Sep.

    287. Meldrim says:

      Jason, I think that we both fotgot about a GOP congressman who ran for was renominated this year and lost the general: Steve Chabot of OH-01.

    288. Tgca says:

      266 SoHope

      You know the out-of-state candidates DeSanctimonius endorsed and went and rallied for lost as well, riiiiiiiight?

    289. jason says:

      I agree with DW and Cow.

      The Golden Calf will not save us.

      We have lost the battle for the soul of the country by allowing decades of left wing indoctrination brainwash our children.

      AZ, NM and CA are border states. Millions are pouring in unchecked. You would think voters in AZ (CA too far gone) at least would care. They don’t. Maybe Lake will win, but it shouldn’t even be close. They certainly don’t care in NM.

      The Golden Calf said “wokism comes to Florida to die”. It was a good line. But unfortunately wokism is alive and well and no election will kill it.

    290. Tina says:

      Golden calf.

      What about Golden Corral?

    291. Tgca says:

      267

      Correct! The majority of the GOP failed opportunities had more to do with 24/7 MSM, early continuous voting, vote by mail, Big Tech censorship, indoctrinated “yoot” voters, and women voters, mist,y single, who don’t like mean tweets.

      The GOP failed to compete in those areas.

      That being said, in most of the lost opportunities, the GOP candidates came very close so that tells me they were competitive but not competitive enough in this large turn-out election where Dems had voting advantages.

      Again, like in 2020, the GOP let Dems outsmart them on voting.

    292. Tgca says:

      270

      I agree with my good friend Bitter.

      You get knocked down. You get up and try again.

      Get knocked down again. Get up again.

      You don’t give up. NEVAH!

      It’s a Sewer State philosophy.

    293. SoHope says:

      They seem to be in disagreement about what constitutes the Promised Land. This doesn’t feel like the Promised Land. It feels like Trump beat Hillary did doing some good GOP policy things and appointing some good judges and then dooming us to lose 3 elections in a row and were 100% about him. Dems nationalized the election based on him everytime (even when they were in power and a $HlT show) and won. Trump was good in 2020 against Hillary in that time and a disaster electorally ever since.

    294. Bitterlaw says:

      Or we could just call him Ron Desantis. Why are people attacking the successful Governor of Florida who just won a landslide reelection? This stupid feud over Trump vs Desantis, two men who have not officially declared for 2024, serves only the Democrats.

    295. SoHope says:

      DeSantis didn’t endorse in the primaries. He did endorse in the GE. He was a good republican that said he supported voting for all the republican candidates. Trump problem is that he hate and opposes a sizable portion of the GOP candidates in the GE. Moderates and Indy minded republicas in purple states will return the favor with MAGA candidates.

    296. Tgca says:

      271. Agreed.

      Lil Marco is a known quantity in Floreedah and doesn’t need anyone to help him win in this state.

      I theorized in 201 (repeated below) why DeSanctimonius and Lil Marco mimicked each other in the election win.

      I have a theory on FL Dem defeats.

      Rubio beat Deming by ~ 17%
      DeSanctimonius defeated Crist by ~ 19%

      Clearly the same trend.

      I think probably most GOP voters don’t agree with Demings’ politics but harbor no ill feelings towards her personally.

      I think probably most GOP voters detest Crist with all their being and would crawl over broken glass to vote against him, as well as many Dems not stomaching him either.

      This may be the reason for the 2% differential on wins between Lil Marco and DeSanctimonius.

    297. Gordon Allen says:

      I agree with Bitter yet again.
      Go figure.

    298. jason says:

      SoHope is at war with himself. Common with TDS.

      “He was a good republican that said he supported voting for all the republican candidates”

      A good R supports all R candidates.

      But yet he approves of “Indy minded Rs” voting against “MAGA candidate”.

      Btw, what is a MAGA candidate exactly.

      Why is “Made America Great Again” such a problem?

    299. Tina says:

      The Rino wing needs to stop with the wsj/trump blame. It is stupid.

      There are still 3 senate contests that remain, including the run off.

      Quit trying to wreck things.

    300. Gordon Allen says:

      TGCA. The difference in Florida is 300,000 more R’s than D’S out out of 14 million voters.
      That leaves 1,200 000 votes. Explain that.
      If you don’t know DeSantis would annihare Rubio in a primary then you really do have ABD

    301. Tina says:

      After the 3 contests are decided we can have the blame game.

      But it must include Biden’s Beotch and Luntz tenant in the equation.

    302. Tgca says:

      276

      Ha! Ha!

      If it were not for Trump, we’d be into the 6th year of a Clinton presidency and the courts would be packed with 200+ more leftist justices limiting our rights and the right to bear arms would essentially no longer be a right, and more and more conservatives would find themselves on the DOJ’s watchlist.

      Trump took on more attacks than any other president ever, having a coordinated Big Tech and MSM fighting him 24/7 as they acted as an arm of the Dem party.

      Trump single-handedly destroyed the MSM and Big Tech credibility and exposed them and was wounded enormously in that war.

      You’re ungrateful because if it were not for Trump, your life would probably be a lot worse off.

    303. jason says:

      Or we could just call him Ron Desantis. Why are people attacking the successful Governor of Florida who just won a landslide reelection? This stupid feud over Trump vs Desantis, two men who have not officially declared for 2024, serves only the Democrats.”

      LOL.

      Is that what all the TDS morons here attacking Trump are doing? Serving the Dems?

      I agree with you.

      I haven’t read ONE post here “attacking” the Golden Calf.

      Saying that anointing him as the R savior might be premature and pointing out he might not be able to form a winning coalition is not an “attack”.

      All the name calling here against Trump, those are “attacks”. I am not attacking DeSantis by calling him the Golden Calf, I am mocking those that want to erase history and mindlessly just jump on the next convenient bandwagon.

      Personally I hope the Golden Calf IS the nominee, because I think he represents the future of the R party, not Trump. But without the vote of Trump’s supporters and Trump’s 2016 and 2020 working class vote, the Golden Calf is going nowhere.

      You read it here first.

    304. DW says:

      jason and Cow, in addition to the universities and their brainwashing operations, it’s also social media. I know of two young ladies who grew up in a Christian home with conservative values and neither went to any university, but each were given smart phones in their teenage years. They gorged themselves on social media and by the time they reached their early 20s they were totally brainwashed by the left and are now hardened socialists who worship big government, they hate fossil fuels, and they want the government to control everything.

    305. Country Dick Montana says:

      Why don’t we just relax for a bit then let the primary season roll.

      Here is the only thing. While I have a degree (actually a couple) my work has been primarily in the field making sure that there is energy available to power all those things that make living easy in the USA. That said the malority of my time has been spent with the working class (welders, operators, etc) that build all that energy infrastructure.

      Ignore thier needs and concerns and they stay home. Taht is just the way it is. They could not care less about the first world problems of the establishment GOP.

    306. jason says:

      Bitter is fine with all the sordid attacks on Trump.

      But he is offended by “Golden Calf”?

      Zzzz…..

    307. SoHope says:

      “What is a MAGA candidate?”
      I don’t know ask Trump. MAGA is his brand. If you have any reservations by now about Trump’s effectiveness that you aren’t pure enough to be MAGA. I’d rather win all the races you can possibly win. And right now that isn’t MAGA. That’s now with Trump at the top.

    308. jason says:

      Ignore thier needs and concerns and they stay home. Taht is just the way it is. They could not care less about the first world problems of the establishment GOP.”

      Stop attacking the Golden Calf by suggesting he would need those folks to win.

    309. Robbie says:

      The proper, smart, and wise ticket for 2024 is Ron DeSantis/Kim Reynolds.

    310. jason says:

      “What is a MAGA candidate?”
      I don’t know ask Trump.”

      Ahhh, thought so.’

      You don’t know but yet you disparage MAGA

      TDS is a sad disease.

    311. jason says:

      Kim Reynolds is too white too boring for the current environment. Plus she doesn’t bring any state to the table.

      Let’s face it, the Golden Calf would need a Tim Scott, the problem with Tim Scott is he brings no state to the table either.

      But the Golden Calf, in a sign of our times, need a woman or a person of color or both as VP.

    312. Bitterlaw says:

      I refer to Trump as Trump. Since he wanted to play kingmaker, he is not immune from criticism. If Jason wants to play Tina’s name game, so be it.

    313. SoHope says:

      Truth be told I don’t know how Jason and Tgca can see their screens to type this dribble with their lips so firmly planted around the base of Trump’s shriveled cock. Maybe their MAGA fellatio gives them a unique perspective of the happy ending they so eagerly want. Do me a favor and clean up when you’re done.

    314. jason says:

      I like Noem, but I don’t think there is good chemistry between her and the Golden Calf.

    315. jason says:

      I refer to Trump as Trump. Since he wanted to play kingmaker, he is not immune from criticism.”

      “He is an crony capitalist opportunist and has only been a R and conservative in the last 5 minutes of his political life. He is a protectionist and isolationist. He is a narcissist and a blowhard.”

      I agree.

    316. jason says:

      their lips so firmly planted around the base of Trump’s shriveled cock”

      You know when Sohope has lost an argument when this is what he resorts to.

      TDS is one sad disease.

    317. jason says:

      Golden Calf/Youngkin maybe.

      Too white, too male, but might bring VA to the table.

    318. Country Dick Montana says:

      To paraphrase the Big Lewboski:

      “Trump is not the issue here.” Seriously. He is done.

      The issue is whoever is the next shiny object for the political junkies on this site will need to be able to connect with the coalition that Trump brought to the party. Beleive me their concerns are WAY different from those of us who have time during the work day to post on a blog.

    319. Tina says:

      On flops, can faux/wsj Ryano explain why Mitchie has also not flopped in 2018, 2020, 2021, and 2022?

    320. Tina says:

      Seems like the big flop here is Biden’s Beotch who failed to nationalize the election.

    321. SoHope says:

      Trump isn’t even able to win over his 2016 coalition

    322. Tina says:

      We need to be rid of this sheot

      Mark R. Levin

      @marklevinshow
      ·
      1h
      5. Rove, McConnell, the GOP establishment, etc., have a bad habit of attacking the GOP’s base. They did the same after the red tsunami in 2010, when the Tea Party delivered over 60 GOP seats to the House

    323. Tina says:

      Mark R. Levin

      @marklevinshow
      ·
      1h
      7. It’s time for McConnell and this gang to go. They take credit for raising and spending hundreds of millions of dollars and then blame conservatives (the base) when their efforts fall short. We don’t need any lectures from them.
      https://wsj.com/articles/why-there-was-no-red-wave-trump-candidate-quality-florida-trickle-desantis-2020-grievance-inflation-abortion-senate-house-race-election-results-11668025235…
      Show

    324. jason says:

      This is HHR, that is why I love it here.

      “He is an crony capitalist opportunist and has only been a R and conservative in the last 5 minutes of his political life. He is a protectionist and isolationist. He is a narcissist and a blowhard.”

      jason is MAGA and has lips around Trump’s cock.

    325. Greymarch says:

      #DeSantis2024, otherwise the white-trash Trumpkins (you know who you are. It’s not our fault your life sucks, yet you blame it on everyone but yourself) get to re-live the 2020 elections.

      President Newsom, unless the Trumpkins finally take responsibility for ruining their own lives.

    326. SoHope says:

      On a 4 hour bus ride to the Grand Canyon. We will see if I’m bored enough to engage in this idiocy.

    327. Country Dick Montana says:

      “Trump isn’t even able to win over his 2016 coalition”

      Please explain.

      BTW if he cant win it over, good luck with anyone else doing it.

      We have turned a corner, if over half the country voted for continued misery then I say, let them have it. I don’t care if it burns or not.

    328. jason says:

      The issue is whoever is the next shiny object for the political junkies on this site will need to be able to connect with the coalition that Trump brought to the party. Beleive me their concerns are WAY different from those of us who have time during the work day to post on a blog.”

      This is heresy!

      You must hate suburban white women, the future of the R party!

      These people should go back and vote Dem again, they should not contaminate the blueblood R party.

      Screw them.

    329. Country Dick Montana says:

      ” white-trash”

      You are a sad son of a beotch. Probably never worked a day in your life and thinks that electricity comes from a swith on a wall. You should be a little bit more appreciative of those that sweat to make your life easy.

    330. jason says:

      he white-trash Trumpkins”

      There you go.

      “White trash”. White working class.

      This is the TDS mentality.

      As CDM says, good luck winning elections.

    331. Paul says:

      From my calculation, it is quite possible for the Dems to win the house. I’m basing it off of house seats that they’ve either won or are leading, which comes to 220.

    332. jason says:

      At least Greymarch is honest and says what he thinks.

      The other TDS morons here are too dishonest to do that.

    333. Country Dick Montana says:

      “From my calculation, it is quite possible for the Dems to win the house. I’m basing it off of house seats that they’ve either won or are leading, which comes to 220.”

      In a way I would like to see that happen. Apparently there is not enough suffereing and pain yet. Let the democrats finish the job over the nex 2 years.

    334. SoHope says:

      I support winning the all of the above voters while still being a conservative. Kind of like winning 49% of 18-29 year olds. Winning Latino voters by a huge margin (including a majority of Puerto Ricans). Winning counties that we would never dream of going red like Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Oceola. All the while talking the conservative talk and doing the conservative walk. DeSantis isn’t the next shiny thing. It’s called a record of personal, professional, and electoral accomplishments. Trump makes his bones on the voters he doesn’t want.

    335. DW says:

      For what its worth:

      Adam Paul Laxalt
      @AdamLaxalt
      ·
      1h

      US Senate candidate, NV
      Last night went exactly as we anticipated. We added 3K from the rurals and more are coming. She added some Clark County mail. We expect the remaining mail universe to fall well below the percentage she needs to catch us. No status change.

    336. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason is winning an argument that he is only having with himself. The GOP needs all of the voters Trump brought in 2016 and 2020
      AND the voters it can get in the suburbs. They are not mutually exclusive. Even Jason admitted the GOP needs to get the voters that can be gotten there.

      Unless Trump is related to Walt, he is going to die at some point. 2024 is his last election. He runs or he doesn’t. What his base does in 2024 and beyond is the question. Of course, if he is related to Walt he can run in 2024, 2028, 2032….and be the William Jennings Bryan of the 21st century.

    337. jason says:

      Zzzzz….. Florida is not the US.

      Meanwhile, some Dems are floating Fetterman for President, no joke.

      Why? Because while Greymarch and the TDS morons think Trump voters are white trash, the Dems see that Fetterman took back enough blue collar voters in red counties in PA to win.

    338. Country Dick Montana says:

      ” It’s called a record of personal, professional, and electoral accomplishments.”

      That is one state, Florida is not PA, MI, WI, OH, etc. etc. etc.

      As I said above, Younkin won in VA, a much harder state to win in while doing and saying the same things as DeSantis. Why not him?

      Primaries will do the sorting for sure. I hope we have someone else besides Trump. But if they can’t beat him in the primaries then what?

    339. jason says:

      The GOP needs all of the voters Trump brought in 2016 and 2020
      AND the voters it can get in the suburbs. They are not mutually exclusive”

      Zzzzzz….. brilliant.

      Maybe you start out by calling Trump supporters white trash?

    340. Bitterlaw says:

      SoHope – Enjoy the trip. I visited the Grand Canyon 2 weeks ago. Truly amazing. On the bus trip we learned a fascinating fact – Joshua trees are not trees. They are actually in the same family as lilly flowers.

    341. jason says:

      That is one state, Florida is not PA, MI, WI, OH, etc. etc. etc.”

      Really?

      Damm, I am sure this is news for the TDS morons.

      But maybe the Golden Calf can win by just saying “hey white trash, the white trash voted for me in Florida, make sure you vote for me here too”.

    342. jason says:

      I noticed not one of the TDS morons and Golden Calf sycophants were critical of Greymarch’s comment.

      Not surprised.

    343. Country Dick Montana says:

      “They are not mutually exclusive.”

      If you actually knew any true working class people, I mean really got to know them as people and friends, you would find that the desires of the suburban class, especially women is very different than the working class.

      I am just calling it as a see it.

    344. jason says:

      But if they can’t beat him in the primaries then what?”

      Vote for the Democrat, a la Lincoln Project.

      The country will be socialist, Trump will still be a billionaire, but hey, we showed that white trash how we roll.

    345. Tina says:

      Yes, calling voters white trash.

      This same stupidity worked well for Quittens in 2012.

    346. SoHope says:

      Thanks Bitter. We are in Boulder City waiting to pick up our lunches. We are excited. So far Vegas has been meh. We are going to live it up Friday and Saturday.

    347. Bitterlaw says:

      GFY. I have NEVER referred to Trump’s supporters, working class people, rural people, etc. as white trash. I respect anybody who works for a living. I did not like the term deplorable because it is insulting to good, hardworking people. I respect anybody who works with their hands as I have no useful job skills. If I was a farmer, my family would starve.

    348. jason says:

      If you actually knew any true working class people, I mean really got to know them as people and friends, you would find that the desires of the suburban class, especially women is very different than the working class.

      I am just calling it as a see it.”

      Exactly. That is why you need a winning strategy and a winning coalition.

      It doesn’t happen by accident. And it doesn’t happen as Bitter suggests, you just “try to get what you can” from each demographic. There is no cookie cutter one message fits all.

      Unfortunately, if you read the posts here and in the media, the R elitists are not going to get the message.

    349. Country Dick Montana says:

      “R elitists are not going to get the message.”

      That is because they generally don’t suffer the consequences of the democrat policies.

      Besides, if this site is any indication, politics to elite/establishment is simply fantasy baseball. Real convictions, nah.

    350. Bitterlaw says:

      SoHope – Check out the Belagio fountains. 5 minutes of fun. My wife went to the Venetian with her sister and said it was really nice.

      At the New York/New York casin0, there is a good Irish Pub called 9 Fine Irishmen.

    351. jason says:

      GFY. I have NEVER referred to Trump’s supporters, working class people, rural people, etc. as white trash. ”

      Zzzzz….

      But you were perfectly ok with Greymarch doing so, right?

      I am scanning the thread. He made the comment at 10:48 Am. It is now a half hour later.

      You were quick to be offended at my comments about the R elites and calling DeSantis Golden Calf.

      But Greymarch’s comment?

      Crickets.

      And I wasn’t even referring to you, because I didn’t really include you among the TDS morons.

      But if the shoe fits…

    352. jason says:

      Country Dick Montana says:
      November 10, 2022 at 11:20 am

      “R elitists are not going to get the message.”

      That is because they generally don’t suffer the consequences of the democrat policies.

      Besides, if this site is any indication, politics to elite/establishment is simply fantasy baseball. Real convictions, nah.”

      Heh, that hits the nail on the head.

      I have been saying this for years, but you wrapped it up nicely in two paragraphs.

    353. Bitterlaw says:

      I was voting exclusively for Republicans before Trump and will be voting exclusively for Republicans after Trump. No need to do anything special to get my vote.

    354. jason says:

      Tina says:
      November 10, 2022 at 11:14 am

      Yes, calling voters white trash.

      This same stupidity worked well for Quittens in 2012.”

      Yeah, and that is why this may not be about Trump at all. There is an underlying sentiment here that goes back before Trump.

    355. Bitterlaw says:

      I did not see Greymarch’s comment. It was stupid and wrong. I usually start reading from the bottom.

      TDS? Trump received more votes from me than he did from you. GFY

    356. Michael says:

      So the Republicans just lost the PA House after holding it for over a decade.

      Nice red wave you got here idiots.

      Yeah, more Trump please. Trump = Loss

      The only people who want more Trump are the Democrats. He’s the gift that keeps giving.

    357. jason says:

      No need to do anything special to get my vote.”

      Says the wealthy Republican lawyer living in a wealthy suburb.

      It is good to know that IF the universe of voters was composed of wealthy Republican attorneys living in wealthy suburbs then Rs would always win.

      Thanks for sharing, it is all nice to consider hypothetical situations.

    358. Country Dick Montana says:

      “I was voting exclusively for Republicans before Trump and will be voting exclusively for Republicans after Trump. No need to do anything special to get my vote.”

      Didn’t David Duke run as a republican. So he would have gotten bitter’s vote? Suprising for sure.

    359. jason says:

      PA Dems elect a dead man for the PA House.

      They are happy voters are still expressing their support for him

      PA House Dems
      @PAHDCC
      While we’re incredibly saddened by the loss of Representative Tony DeLuca, we are proud to see the voters to continue to show their confidence in him.

    360. Tgca says:

      306

      Ok. I’ll play Gordy.

      You’re comparing apples and oranges to try and make a point because you’re not considering all facts but two can do that. I can twist analysis too to show how candidates energized and turned out voters in their elections.

      Oh lookie here Gordy!

      It appears Trump energized more folks to turn out and vote for him in his election in 2020 than DeSantis did in 2018. Specifically, Trump’s percent of GOP/Indy vote is 13% ahead of DeSanctimonius. That’s an enormous lead me thinks.

      Trump got 1.1M more votes in FL than DeSanctimonius got.

      Trump 2020
      5.7M of 14.6M = 39% of total registered voters
      5.7 of 9.3M = 61% of total registered GOP/Indy

      DeSanctimonius 2022
      4.6M of 14.5M = 32% of total registered voters
      4.6M of 9.5M = 48% of total registered GOP/Indy

    361. VictrC says:

      Ive been a political junkie since I was 8. I’ve been coming here for almost two decades. I have to, and hate to, admit it, but I don’t have any answers.

      I’m shocked by this election. We should have been discussing whether we get to 55 senators and 250 seats in the house, and instead we’re fighting to get to 218. Fetterman, a guy who can’t speak (stroke or no stroke), has never worked a day in his life, has no respect for his constituents or the office he holds and will holds by appearing the way he does, is a us senator.

      We sit here and fight about Trump, no Trump, the coalition, suburban moms, etc…but the answer is, we really don’t have an answer.

      In today’s world, we don’t have an answer to what we need to get to 270, and in two years it’s going To continue to get worse.

      I think instead of attacking Trump (who has too many flaws to go along with the great overall job he did as President), DeSantis, suburban moms, blue collar, white collar, wsj, country club, etc we address the real problem.

      In earlier epochs, when we were young we were liberals, full of ideology and hope, and dumb ideas our teachers and profs fed us. Then we grew up and saw how the real world worked, and what was right. This new generation (late Gen x and from Gen Y down) are not maturing. They are believing the drivel they are being fed (just go back and look at that trans teen article posted earlier here). We’ve slipped into the abyss.

      Kids who made mistakes when they were in middle school are being denied jobs if they went against leftist orthodoxy. Kids get in trouble if they use the wrong pronoun. We’re living in terror of being shamed. That has projected itself into our elections. Combine that with the effective cheating accomplished via early voting and voila…we’re faced with an electoral map that is daunting.

      So, instead of name calling and infighting, how do we bridge this gap? How do we appeal to enough voters in mi, wi, pa…etc.

      Maybe we need our own tattooed, hoodie wearing conservative who can appeal to this crowd without pissing off regulsr republicans? I honestly don’t know, and that has me scared.

      I do know, over the next 30 days, we need to push laxalt across the finish line by doing all we can to avoid the fraud we know will be committed in NV, pray they actually count election days votes in AZ, and dedicate all Republican resources to getting walker over 50%+1 in December.

    362. Tgca says:

      306

      Oh lookie here Gordy!

      Based on percent increase in GOP registration, it was highest during Trump presidential runs. He more than doubled the % increase when DeSanctimonius ran in 2018.

      Year. Registered GOP Voters
      2022. 5.26. 2.73% increase
      2021. 5.12. 1.72% decrease
      2020. 5.21. 9.5% increase
      2019. 4.76. .8% increase
      2018. 4.72. 4.0% increase
      2017. 4.54. .9% decrease
      2016. 4.58. 9.3% increase

    363. SoHope says:

      And Biden got more votes than any other presidential candidate in American History…blah blah blah

      When idiots can’t tell the difference between presidential turnout and midterm turnout vote numbers.

    364. Tgca says:

      306

      Here’s registration advantage by party each year rounded in 100K.

      Oh lookie here Gordy!

      Biggest gains for GOP made in years Trump ran and net zero gains for DeSanctimonius years in aggregate when Trump not on the ticket.

      …and the gains has been .8K over 7 years for GOP, all coming mostly when Trump was running.

      As I said previously. FL has been trending GOP for years, before DeSanctimonius reached puberty.

      Year. G. D. I
      2022. .1. -.1. .2
      2021. -.1. -.2. 0
      2020. .5. .3. .2
      2019. 0. 0. .1
      2018. .2. .2. .1
      2017. -.3. -.1. -.3
      2016. .4 .4. .3
      Total. .8. .5. .6

    365. Gordon Allen says:

      Back to Planet Earth, and real, current stuff, I was not pleased to see comments from Ralston( I know he’s a Dem flack, but…) to the effect that he thinks the incoming mail votes will beat Laxalt and hold the seat even if only just under 55% go Dem.
      Jeez. If that happens the Georgia run off will , even if Walker wins, will only get us to 50-50 again.
      Somebody tell me it ain’t so. Please.

    366. Tgca says:

      369. SoHope

      Thanks! You fell into the trap.

      You’re making my point. The analysis is skewed because of apples and oranges are being compared just like Gordy is doing.

      …and for the record, to states that have Gubbernor elections in off presidential years, that’s when you expect their voters to be most energized because they are electing their own gubbernor.

    367. Michael says:

      Great Red Wave you have here.

      Michigan now has a Democratic trifecta, and every statewide Democrat won in a landslide.

      Thanks Trump. Trump, the gift that keeps on giving.

    368. SoHope says:

      You know what isn’t apples and oranges like raw numbers during midterms vs presidential years…percentages

      DeSantis won a higher percentage of the vote than Newsom did in CA.

    369. Tgca says:

      362

      Is that the gay tranny Michael?

      PA was turned because of lefty “yoot” vote going over 2/3 Dem and single women.

      I think Michael identifies with both.

      PA elected a dead CongressCritter and a dead senator.

    370. Bitterlaw says:

      David Duke? Zzzzzz. I thought Corey used that stupid example. You can do better, CDM. Duke was not really a Republican. I would leave the ballot for that race blank.

      It is hilarious that Jason cast 1/2 as many votes for Trump as I did but he is the one who can decide who is Trumpy enough.

      Wealthy lawyer? I pay my bills. Wealthy suburb? Sure but you forgot to mention best public school system in PA. You know who else lives here? Two of my friends who each own landscaping businesses. Neither went to college but work extremely hard. Sadly, I have not been invited to their beach houses.

    371. SoHope says:

      California
      Newsom (D) * 3,201,239 57.5%
      Dahle (R) 2,364,168 42.5%

      Florida
      DeSantis (R) * 4,609,110 59.4%
      Crist (D) 3,102,136 40.0%

    372. DW says:

      VictorC, I hear you, and I agree…said similar things here this morning.

      The universities, the media, and now especially social media have turned the minds of young voters into rot. They think they are living in some fantasy movie where if you are a boy and you want to be a girl…poof! Its done!

      And why not hate fossil fuels? After all, we can just ban them and some alternative will magically appear, right? They have no concept at all of the real world. These kids in their 20s standing on street corners holding their signs demanding that they are entitled for YOU to pay off the student loans THEY signed up for. They have no concept at all of what is real.

      The radical left has finally destroyed two generations in a row, and there is no recovery that I can think of. All that’s left is the collapse of the civilization. Just like when Rome fell, there will be rump states here and there that try to continue on, like Florida right now, but they too eventually succumb.

      If Ron DeSantis announced that Florida will leave the union and become and independent country, I would be there in 15 hours hoping to get in before the borders close.

    373. Bitterlaw says:

      That is not the real Michael. He almost never posts here. I know this because he confirmed it in FB messages to me.

    374. gameboy says:

      #371

      A 5 year old can figure out how the NV Senate race will end. NV is hands down the most corrupt of them all. They will steal it from Lombardo as well.

    375. Tgca says:

      374

      DeSanctimonius did well. I’m glad. Lil Marco did just as well.

      This Floreedah! It’s a deep GOP state and has been for years at state level elections.

      It’s had GOP gubbernors for over 20 years straight, as well as almost all major offices and legislators.

      But Ronaldo has a long way to go to prove he can win MI, WI, or PA. Without them or another lefty Dem state he will NEVER be POTUS. It’s impossible under the EC.

      That is our point!

      Trump won those states in 2016 and arguably in 2020 as well.

      DeSanctimonius needs to start working to see if he can relate to those voters. Right now, he’s a country club Republican and his focus has NOT been on the working class. I hope he gets there.

    376. Gordon Allen says:

      Uh, TGCA Non Presidential years ALWAYS have lower turnout. What is your beef with DeSantis. Obviously there is one; how about a little transparency. By the way, I voted for Rubio and gave money to him in 2016, only to have Trump crush him in Florida in the March primary. I had 3 martinis that night.
      DeSantis will similarly crush Trump in a primary here, and Rubio also( he wouldn’t commit suicide to run against him).
      Do you challenge that?? If not, what is this all about? DeSantis has had more effect on the politics of one State as Governor in one term than anyone I can recall.
      Like Trump, who won me over by his performance as President, DeSantis has thoroughly won me over by a wonderful performance as Governor, AND as Party Leader. Competence is it’s own reward.

    377. Tgca says:

      379

      Ok. Sounds like him but thanks for confirming it’s not him.

      Did the REAL Michael complete his transition yet?

    378. Bitterlaw says:

      Michael is gay, not trans. Maybe you need your puppet master to return and discuss it with you.

    379. Country Dick Montana says:

      Bitter, of course it was a joke. And I do better, but better doesn’t work here.

      The US will eventually collapse, if for no other reason than we can’t pay our debts. There will eventually be general strikes and food riots and the “people” will demand an authoratarian government to fix things. Loss of Freedom will be the price we pay to keep from starving (beleive me “top men” already know who each and everyone of us is that post here) and anyone that goes against the Government will be santioned and punished (see Canada.) To survive most will do the least that is demanded of them and resort to low level criminality to survive/prosper. There will be few good people left and that is what any government wants and needs to stay in power.

    380. Tgca says:

      382

      I don’t have a beef with DeSanctimonius. I voted him and support him and think he’s been a good gubbernor.

      I also think he’s a mini-Trump. He’s narcissistic and thin-skinned and attacks and mock others he does not agree with and doesn’t know when to pick his battles. He’s vindictive, like Trump too.

      Though I enjoy watching it, I guarantee you nationally that will cone back to haunt him.

      Think Chris Christie. Trump, Christie, and DeSanctimonious are all cut from the same cloth. Only difference is Ronaldo has been Gubbernor in an EXTREMELY friendly political state so he’s untested in the oceans of sharks that Trump and Christie swam in.

      I don’t like idolatry of anyone. It’s how we get bad gubbermint.

    381. SoHope says:

      But but but Trump knows some unflattering information about DeSantis. He knows more about DeSantis than anyone including his wife. Some would say Trump is the world’s premier expert on all thing Ron DeSantis.
      Especially all the unflattering things.

    382. SoHope says:

      That coupled with Trump having the best words, DeSantis is doomed.

    383. Tgca says:

      384

      LGBTQIA2S+ with its 68+ genders. All the same to me.

      …and how do you know Michael or Michele or They, Them, It or whatever pronouns are appropriate is not tranny?

      Have you checked and validated for yourself?

    384. Tgca says:

      385

      Top men know who we are? Oh chit!

      What about the men that are bottoms? Do they know us too?

    385. Tgca says:

      Trump will be Trump and always say stoopid chit when he’s annoyed or feels threatened. That’s what thin-skinned narcissists do.

      I don’t care how Trump tweets. I care how he governs.

      Same with DeSanctimonius.

      But if the GOP presidential primary were today, Trump would get my vote over Ronaldo.

    386. DW says:

      VictorC, I checked and confirmed that Walt wrote something similar back when the Ostrogoths were working their way down the Italian peninsula to finish off the Western Roman Empire.

      Walt was smart though, and got out of town as a member of Constantine’s administration. It was Walt who advised Constantine to split up the empire, taking the much more defensible half in the east, with the capital city setup in the renamed Constantinople.

    387. Tina says:

      We can also play the endorsement game.

      How many did dessntis endorse nationally? How many won?

      What about younkin in Va? Seems like he supported a lot of va candidates who lost.

      I blame the candidate that lost. Simple as that. This was the pre election belief here, which did not last

    388. SoHope says:

      Can’t govern if you can’t get elected…can’t get elected if you keep saying stupid chit….Trump can’t quit saying stupid chit
      Let’s do the math together…plus 3 carry the 1…Trump is done

    389. Tina says:

      I also will support the R ticket nationally in 2024.

      I don’t care who that person is.

    390. Bitterlaw says:

      CDM – I will let you and DW fight over who has the most depressing vision of the future. You were able to retire. I will die at my desk in part because I don’t know what else to do.

    391. Tina says:

      Noem shoukd be the front runner imo.

      No Covid lockdowns.

      Runs a tight ship.

    392. Tina says:

      Looks like youngkin went. 0-13 on those he endorsed/campaigned with.

    393. Tgca says:

      I bet if the red wave actually came through Tues, most here would be patting Trump on the back.

      But because it did not, peeps need someone to blame.

      I say again, look at your family and friends. Good chance many of them contributed to the lost opportunities for the GOP.

      If your child voted Dem, disown then and tell then they’re out of the will. Change the locks on the door and let them pay their own schooling.

      Same with your brothers or sisters. Block them on social media and save on Xmas costs by crossing them off your list.

      Friends, screw them too. In fact, screw their wives as an act of vindictiveness.

      Parents? Have them declared incompetent, take their assets, and put them in a retirement home with roaches all about.

      Wifey? Well, that’s a little more sensitive to handle. See recommendations on friends.

      Elections have consequences!!!

      If your loved ones are voting against your interests, they are just as much to blame as the MSM, Big Tech and Hollywood.

    394. SoHope says:

      “OnlyTrump” people want Trump to be coronated but if not they want as many candidates as possible. DeSantis would probably win a 1 vs 1 but would struggle in a crowded field.

    395. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      https://twitter.com/CATargetAlt/status/1590752054795857927

      CA CD-41: Ken Calvert, Republican incumbent, is now in the lead.(H/T: RRH)

    396. Tgca says:

      396

      Don’t say morbid stoopid chit like that. It upsets me.

      I still want your sweater collection though.

    397. Tina says:

      If there was a red wave, they would not be praising trump.

      The same Rinos would be touting the leadership of Biden’s Beotch and Luntz tenant.

    398. DW says:

      The Republican just took the lead in CO-03, this is the one that CNN had to un-call for the Democrat.

    399. Country Dick Montana says:

      There’s always Liz Cheney.

    400. Tgca says:

      395

      Cheney/Hogan 2024!!!

      Tina’s getting her bumper sticker.

    401. SoHope says:

      And I assume since DeSantis endorsed all GOP nominees and tried to hope those running in blue or purple states means DeSantis sucks if they lose. But if Trump chits on all the GOP nominees fighting Dems in blue and purple states and endorses republicans running in Alabama and they win that means Trump is to thank? But Melania is to blame for his endorsement of Dr. Oz.

    402. Tgca says:

      405

      HA!

      Small minds think alike apparently. 🙂

    403. Tgca says:

      407

      WTF you rambling on about?

      You having a liquid lunch?

    404. Tina says:

      Got it, so Rove is the “architect” for the wsj trumps at fault piece.

      Even though many of Roves candidates with his Y2K ads did poorly.

    405. Country Dick Montana says:

      ” I will let you and DW fight over who has the most depressing vision of the future.”

      It is simply history, Bitterlaw. As been happening to empires and political systems for eons, and with the exception of losing a war, that is always how it ends. Wash, rinse, spin and repeat.

    406. bob says:

      Lauren Boebert 157,743 50.1%

      Adam Frisch 157,357 49.9%

      98% reporting CO-3

    407. DW says:

      And empires in the eons past who lost it in a war, watched in horror as their captive sons were castrated before their eyes and carried off to be made slaves.

      Now the Democrats have convinced half our nation that its healthy progress to pressure young boys into being castrated on purpose.

    408. Tgca says:

      414

      Are we talking about Michael again?

      That’s sooooo sad!

      I am repulsed by this younger ge station and wonen voters who support all those unGodly radical leftist agenda.

      I think the only way it changes is if these morons feel the pain.

      Maybe if they have more crime in their cities and suburbs, they’ll think twice when voting since they vote for soft on crime candidates.

    409. jason says:

      DeSantis would probably win a 1 vs 1 but would struggle in a crowded field.”

      Awwww….the Golden Calf will “struggle” in crowded field? Sounds like you are worried Trump might win in a “crowded field”

      Now why would that be, I thought the Golden Calf he was God’s gift to candidates.

      Well maybe you can adopt Amoral Scumbag’s brokered convention theory and he can be the chosen one of the R elites who always know better than the voters.

    410. Tgca says:

      Interesting. GOP turnout up and leading over Dems but the red wave did not happen. Percentage wise, they did better than the Big Red Wave in 2010 where they gained 60+ seats.

      More evidence the GOP did well against previous expectations but lost in some very tight races.

      It appears what probably snatched defeat from the GOP was the change in voting that greatly benefits the Dems.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/6-million-vote-advantage-for-republicans/

    411. Tgca says:

      416

      Can we compromise on Ronaldo, the Golden Calf please?

      My auto correct keeps misspelling DeSanctimonious.

    412. jason says:

      SoHope says:
      November 10, 2022 at 11:50 am

      California
      Newsom (D) * 3,201,239 57.5%
      Dahle (R) 2,364,168 42.5%

      Florida
      DeSantis (R) * 4,609,110 59.4%
      Crist (D) 3,102,136 40.0%”

      Zzzzz…

      Florida 100% tallied

      California 45% tallied

      I guess Tgca decided to go full blown stupid.

    413. jason says:

      How about Ronaldo the Desanctimonious Golden Calf?

      I know, too long, but it will trigger the TDS morons.

    414. jason says:

      It appears what probably snatched defeat from the GOP was the change in voting that greatly benefits the Dems.”

      Nah, VBM and EV and drop boxes and ballot harvesting is good for the GOP.

      The problem is Trump.

      I read it here at HHR.

    415. jason says:

      I guess Tgca decided to go full blown stupid”

      Whoops, I meant SoHope

      I would say sorry but I am an A-hole.

      GFY.

    416. jason says:

      BREAKING: Young Kim (R-inc) defeats Asif Mahmood (D) in California’s 40th Congressional District @DecisionDeskHQ”

      Eventually she will transition into Middle Aged Kim and Old Kim.

    417. SoHope says:

      Jason, as the Dems count more CA votes how many extra percentage points do the think he will pickup?

      DeSantis has 2 points on him for bragging rights. CA is much bluer than FL is red.

    418. JeffP says:

      Discuss…

      So who comes to Georgia to campaign for H Walker?

      DeSantis or Trump or both separately or both together or neither?

      What scenario gives H Walker the best chance?

    419. Skippy says:

      https://twitter.com/JoshKraushaar/status/1590766904477556736?s=20&t=rfhKWhLneT2MyvqWpsgr9w

      You either got to be dumber than a rock or so much in slave to cult personality to still be promoting Trump as Republicans best shot to win White House in 2024 election.

      LOL!

    420. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason- I heard that Mastriano did worse in Lancaster county than Oz. Mastriano only won the county by about 4000 votes. I did not look it up. If true, please explain as it is in your sphere of influence.

    421. VictrC says:

      DW. – lol on the Walt comment. I thought it was the Corinthians…but you’re probably right.

      Let’s go Mets

    422. SoHope says:

      EV and VBM will continue to happen. Candidates that discourage their supporters from utilizing it are campaigning with one hand tied behind their back. In Florida the GOP won the early votes convincingly. Pressuring the country’s Republicans to never use VBM because it’s evil means we are putting all our eggs in the ED basket. We are a Hurricane in FL, a snowstorm in New Hampshire, or shooting at a random red precinct in WI screwing up our Turnout but bearly scratching the Dems.

    423. jason says:

      SoHope says:
      November 10, 2022 at 1:25 pm

      Jason, as the Dems count more CA votes how many extra percentage points do the think he will pickup?

      DeSantis has 2 points on him for bragging rights. CA is much bluer than FL is red.”

      You went for that bait, huh?

      I had already made that point, I don’t have GCDS (Golden Calf DS).

      “jason says:
      November 9, 2022 at 11:42 am

      Newsome’s win in CA is unimpressive so far. Maybe it will change but so far the R has 42% and is winning San Bernadino, Orange and Fresno and is close in San Diego.

      As Christina Pushaw (love this woman) DeSantis is winning FL by more than Newsome is winning CA.”

    424. Meldrim says:

      What’s still out appears to be from uber-Democrat Pitkin County and from one other Democrat county (Garfield IIRC), so Boehlert probably will lose her lead shortly. Then there are the military and overseas absentees that have 10 days to come in (as per federal law), and any mistakes that they may find in a recount. Boehlert may still win, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

      And even if Boehlert pulls off the victory, she’s undisputedly a terrible politician and candidate. Trump carried the CO-03 (as currently drawn) by 8.2%, so we’re not talking about a liberal stronghold in the Denver suburbs–the CO-03 has a few liberal ski counties, but far many more extremely conservative rural counties, and its two biggest counties are super-conservative Mesa and blue-collar (and GOP-trending) Pueblo.

      By comparison, Biden carried the new CO-08 by 4.5%, and conservative Republican Barb Kirkmeyer is behind by only 0.1% with an estimated 91.56% counted, so Kirkmeyer’s margin is 4.4% *higher* than Trump’s, while Boehlert’s margin is 8.2% *below* Trump’s.

      Boehlert having a 50-50 election in that district is just embarrassing, and, while I hope that she holds on and wins, I also hope that she decides to do something different with her life and not seek reelection in 2024.

    425. SoHope says:

      Personally I think Walker is already toast. 2022 a lot of republicans were angry and hungry for revenge. It turned out it wasn’t enough to win where it mattered. Now republicans are disappointed and frustrated…not a good recipe for the runoff. Not to mention a poor candidate.

    426. jason says:

      Pressuring the country’s Republicans to never use VBM because it’s evil means we are putting all our eggs in the ED basket.”

      It’s not evil, you idiot, it is fraudulent. If you feel confident your mail in ballot or EV counts you are a sucker.

      Why should Rs volunteer to throw their ballots in a system rife with fraud. Just as an example are you completely sure woke people in the post office won’t throw away ballots from R precincts? That drop boxes in R areas wouldn’t be vandalized? That R votes in EV wouldn’t be targeted?

      I am not against this system per se, if it was structured to be honest. But it isn’t the Dems gamed the system using COVID as the catalyst and are now trying to make it permanent without safeguards.

    427. SoHope says:

      In order to run in 2024 after losing in 2018, 2020, and now 2024 Trump should have to focus 100% of his MAGA magic in Georgia. Make it a proxy vote for him in 2024. He won’t run unless Walker wins. He did win GA in 2020 right. It should be no small chore to win there again. Trump rallies everywhere in GA to turn out every single MAGA in the state to get the opportunity to have Trump as president again.

    428. Greymarch says:

      https://twitter.com/JoshKraushaar/status/1590766904477556736

      This is why the GOP must go #DeSantis2024, otherwise Trumpkins get to re-live #Trump2020.

    429. jason says:

      Not to mention a poor candidate”

      There we go. Why don’t you just call him black trash, we know you want to.

      Despite all the mud thrown against him, he got 49% of the vote against an incumbent with a lot more money.

      Doesn’t seem like a bad candidate to me.

    430. jason says:

      Kraushaar is full of crap as usual.

      He wants to compare the vote for first time candidates like Bolduc and Walker with popular incumbent governors like Kemp and Sununu.

      If there is a difference, blame it on Trump.

      The hypocrisy is astounding.

    431. jason says:

      In order to run in 2024 after losing in 2018, 2020, and now 2024 Trump ”

      Trump was not on the ballot in 2018 and 2022, so that is a crock of crap, he couldn’t lose anything.

      And I doubt he actually lost in 2020.

      TDS is one sick disease.

    432. Wes says:

      It’s Boebert, not Boehlert, Meldrim.

    433. Bitterlaw says:

      Yesterday, Jason made a very reasonable proposal that Trump should not run in 2024 but support DeSantis in the primaries in exchange for an understanding that DeSantis, if elected, would pardon him for any and all BS indictments.

      Today, he openly mocks DeSantis with a Tina-level stupid nickname.

      What happened? I know he did not raid the A-hole liquor cabinet since MD stole it.

    434. Bitterlaw says:

      I condemn Greymarch.

    435. Wes says:

      Mastriano still hasn’t conceded. I guess Shapiro stole the election or some such gobbledygook.

      Basically Republicans nominated a certifiable lunatic who dragged down the entire state ticket and is too obtuse to realize he lost. At what point do Republicans start looking at better candidates?

    436. Tina says:

      Tucker Carlson:

      “The people whose job it was to win but did not win should go do something else now… They took hundreds of millions of dollars to paint the map red and they didn’t.”

    437. BayernFan says:

      433….

      Plus the Dems will already have 50 seats and Senate control. So that race will be moot.

    438. GF says:

      I’d take Sherwood Boehlert over that attention seeking clown, Wes.

      RE: Tucker, when you’ve lost him…

    439. DW says:

      “Walt was smart though, and got out of town as a member of Constantine’s administration. It was Walt who advised Constantine to split up the empire, taking the much more defensible half in the east, with the capital city setup in the renamed Constantinople.”

      VictrC, I checked the records further, and found that the original name of the new Rome was going to be Waltople, because it was his idea, but Walt humbly stepped aside and insisted on Constantinople.

    440. BayernFan says:

      If they indict Trump I’m voting for him for sure. I won’t be the only one.

    441. Meldrim says:

      “It’s Boebert, not Boehlert, Meldrim.”

      Do’h. Thanks, Wes. Sherry Boehlert was that RINO congressman from Upstate NY that I remember from the ’90s and early 2000s.

    442. Bitterlaw says:

      Walt also declined the honor of having the state where he lives being named Walt Virginia.

    443. Wes says:

      Um, Constantine reunited the Roman Empire. Diocletian divided it, but Constantine wanted to be Emperor of the full Empire and ultimately succeeded in that goal. Later, Theodosius would divide the Empire again, splitting it between his son’s upon his death. This time it would not reunite before Rome finally fell in AD 476.

    444. Wes says:

      I know, Meldrim. Boehlert retired in 2007 from the House and died last year.

    445. Bitterlaw says:

      DC was originally going to be called Waltington but George Washington had a hissy fit.

    446. VictrC says:

      DW – LOL

      Wes – Good history lesson

      I heard that Walt tried to break up the fight with Cain and Abel but some asses jaw got in the way

    447. Bitterlaw says:

      Walt said Atlantis was real but not worth looking for.

    448. Gordon Allen says:

      Florida has vbm and its no problem if done properly and methods of cheating are circumscribed.
      The latter is the issue in blue states; they WANT methods to cheat.

    449. Cash Cow TM says:

      Walt just csame back from playing bridge today.

      (Came in dead last)

      I told him there were lots of derogatory (yet funny) comments on HHR about him.

      He said he no longer cares, and slinked on into the house.

    450. Country Dick Montana says:

      Can someone here smarter than me explain the market’s perfromance of the the last few weeks, especially today. have the economic fundementals changed positively to account for the almost steady upward climb.

    451. Country Dick Montana says:

      Just found something interesting. Comment 458 was originally sent on my iphone and went into moderation. It was fine from my computer. Seems a lot of my posts from the iphone go to moderation. Anyone else have the same issue?

    452. jason says:

      Well if the Rs control the House the days of big DEM spending boondoggles like BBB are over.

    453. jason says:

      Florida has vbm and its no problem if done properly and methods of cheating are circumscribed.
      The latter is the issue in blue states; they WANT methods to cheat.”

      Finally something I can agree on.

      Not embarrassed, it happens.

    454. jason says:

      Yesterday, Jason made a very reasonable proposal that Trump should not run in 2024 but support DeSantis in the primaries in exchange for an understanding that DeSantis, if elected, would pardon him for any and all BS indictments.

      Today, he openly mocks DeSantis with a Tina-level stupid nickname.”

      Not mocking the Golden Calf. I am mocking those that think he is the Golden Calf.

      Hope it is clear now.

    455. Cash Cow TM says:

      Walt said:

      “The left tells us that:

      –climate change is caused by man. IT ISN’T

      –whites are all racists. THEY AREN’T

      –masks prevent you from getting COVID. IT WON’T

      –vaccines prevent you getting COVID. IT WON’T

      –pipelines are bad. THEY’RE NOT (safer, cheaper)

      –everyone should vote. THEY SHOULDN’T

      –unborn children are not humans until they are actually born. THEY ARE WRONG (is a fetus a human 1 day before birth?)

      –students should get 50% for just showing up. NO THEY SHOULD NOT

      –people should not be held accountable for their actions. THEY SHOULD

      –men can have babies. NO THEY CANNOT

      –all drugs should be legal. NO THEY SHOULD NOT

      –floods of illegal and unchecked aliens are good and they do not cost taxpayers anything. WRONG

      –we have to end fossil fuels. NO WE SHOULDN’T

      –George Floyd was in no way responsible for his own death. YES HE WAS, IN A BUNCH OF WAYS

      –no student should fail. YES THEY SHOULD

      –it is ok for parents to be excluded from school decisions involving their children. IT IS NOT

      –every worker should be paid a living wage. NO THEY SHOULD NOT

      –police and the judicial system are racist. NO

      –the constitution and laws stemming from it should be ignored. NO

      –people who speak out against Dems should have their rights taken away. NO THEY SHOULDN’T

      –voting for Rs will lead to an end of Democracy. NO IT DOES NOT

      –AAs, women, American Indians, LBGTQEIEIO should have preferential hiring. NO THEY SHOULD NOT

      –mask mandates are good and if you don’t comply you should be fired. NO YOU SHOULD NOT BE FIRED

      –it is not ok to assault someone because of the color of their skin, but it is ok to assault someone if they wear a MAGA hat or fly a U.S. flag. NO BOTH ARE WRONG

      –it is ok to riot, burn steal, assault others if you are upset about something. NO IT IS NOT

      –children should be allowed to decide what sex they want to be. LUDICROUS

      –you should just accept run-a-way inflation. NO

      etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum
      ##############################################

      AND YET YOU CANNOT FIND 50% OF VOTERS
      –IN ELECTION AFTER ELECTION (with RARE exceptions like VA last year)–WHO CANNOT STAND UP TO THIS BULLSH!T AND TELL THE INSANE LEFT “NO”.

      And when voters DO that, the lunatics come right back at you again…until they WIN.

    456. DW says:

      Cow, go back and tell Walt he missed one:

      –you must use the pronouns I tell you to use. NO-I HAVE FREE SPEECH AND CAN USE WHATEVER PRONOUN IS TRUE.

    457. Waingro says:

      Laxalt is still very much in this, guys.

      Victor Joecks
      @VictorJoecks
      This is some really good news for
      @AdamLaxalt
      .

      Looks like USPS mail ballots (which CCM has won 2-1) have all but stopped. And it suggests the county counted more mail ballots last night than previously anticipated.

    458. Tgca says:

      433. SoHopeLess

      We just posted today showing the GOP turnout for this election greatly exceeded Dems, by 6 million voters, and exceeded 2010 as well when the GOP had a wave, and that most GOP lost opportunities this cycle were in very close races so they did not lose by landslides as a trend.

      The big issue was “indoctrinated yoot” and “skanky single women” voting for Dems 2/3 margins as they accept socialism in Amerika.

      There are a myriad of other reasons for certain losses from funding to voting rules in Dem states impacting GOP candidates.

      Not to mention 24/7 attacks by MSM, Big Tech bias, and the president attacking Americans as being equivalent to terrorists and weaponizing the DOJ to message that democracy is at risk.

      The GOP has to learn to fight back or these election losses will continue. I think Mitchie did little to lay out a coherent plan for tje Senate too.

      EDUMACATE yourself because you come across as completely uninformed or a stoopid azz f*ck as we say in the Sewer State, though I would never say that of you.

    459. Wes says:

      Pretty hard to have a coherent plan for the Senate with multiple candidates–all losers ultimately–attacking you rather than the political opposition, I’d say, Tg.

      Mitch was the problem though. It wasn’t the fact the people like Masters and Bolduc would rather spend their time taking potshots at him than explain why electing them to the Senate would change anything.

    460. NYCmike says:

      “Not mocking the Golden Calf. I am mocking those that think he is the Golden Calf.”

      -jason, just to clarify – did someone say he was the “Golden Calf”?

      I thought they likened him to Joshua, whom Moses picked to lead the Israelites into the Promised Land after he died.

    461. Wes says:

      Boebert is now up by 794.

      Please retire if you manage to survive this political NDE, Lauren.

    462. Tina says:

      Arizona election results are delayed until after this weekend.

      Nothing to see here.

    463. Country Dick Montana says:

      IIRC Boebert’s district was changed to add more suburban areas that were not as friendly to a gun toting bar owner. Isn’t her opponent a former city offical in Aspen? Not exactly Boebert Country.

    464. Tgca says:

      467

      Mitch was the problem earlier in the year, February I believe, when he vetoed a coherent strategy that Rick Scott tried to put forth messaging for the GOP senate. That was before most primaries.

    465. Tina says:

      I still cannot believe they did not come up with some kind of stratergery for the senate.

      He is incompetent.

      I made this same remark several times this year.

    466. DW says:

      Waingro, is there anything to back that up or is it just a tweet?

    467. Wes says:

      Rick Scott proposed tax increases, Tg. That wasn’t exactly going to go over well. Maybe you should educate yourself when you tell others to do the same.

    468. Wes says:

      Boebert’s district under current lines is R+6, CDM. That she’s in a dogfight in a district well to the right of her state is a problem of her own making.

    469. Country Dick Montana says:

      “Boebert’s district under current lines is R+6, CDM. That she’s in a dogfight in a district well to the right of her state is a problem of her own making.”

      Do you happen to have the breakdown of D/R/I? If there are a lot of Indies I would imagine many of them are left leaning.

      I am not sure what she did to make it a close race in your opinion seeing that she has not changed from her original election. The main thing that changed was her district and it was intentionally done so in order to make it more difficult on her.

    470. Meldrim says:

      CDM, Boebert’s CO-03 was made more Republican–and more Trumpy–in redistricting than it was before. In 2020, Trump carried it (under the old lines) by 5.5%, but under the new lines Trump would have defeated Biden by 8.2%. And, yes, as I noted in post #432, redistricting added a few additional ski counties (albeit not suburban counties), but the district has far more voters in conservative rural counties, and the bulk of its voters are in very conservative Mesa and in Pueblo (which made huge strides to the GOP with Trump on the ballot).

      Boebert is just a bad candidate. Someone just as conservative as her, but less of a performance artist, would have won handily instead of turning it into a 50-50 race. I hope that she wins, does her job in Washington for two more years, and doesn’t seek reelection.

    471. Wes says:

      Although I haven’t found the D/R/I breakdown, CDM, the Dem primary had a turnout of 60k while the GOP primary had a turnout of 83k. That’s over 1/3 more Republicans than Dems. There’s not really any evidence Boebert’s underperforming due to anything but her being a bomb thrower rather than a workhorse for her district.

    472. Country Dick Montana says:

      478 – OK, I will go by what you say in respect to redistricting. It was my understanding that areas in the ski towns were added in order to make things more difficult.

      We keep talking about “bad candidates.” Perhaps we should ask why the “good candidates” don’t win primaries and address that issue. Or perhaps there are simply no good candidates.

    473. Wes says:

      Boebert’s an incumbent. Barring a major scandal, an incumbent will almost always win a primary. Maybe as a rookie legislator, she should have focused more on her district rather than being a showhorse best remembered for taking a gun into Congress. It looks as if she forgot Tip O’Neill’s famous maxim–“All politics is local–and endangered herself unnecessarily.

    474. Meldrim says:

      CDM, when a district is rated R+6, it does not mean that there are 6% more registered Republicans than Registered Democrats. It means that the district votes 6 points more Republican (based on the share of the two-party vote, leaving third-party candidates out of the referendum) than the national average during the past two presidential elections, although some analysts also include other elections as well.

      For example, looking at the 2020 presidential election, Trump received 54.2% of the two-party vote in the redrawn CO-03 (he got 52.9% and Biden got 44.7%), while, nationally, Trump got 47.7% of the two-party vote (he got 46.8% while Biden got 51.3%). If we only looked at the 2020 presidential election for the district rating, we would say that the CO-03 was R+6.5, since 54.2 minus 47.7 = 6.5.

    475. Meldrim says:

      Jiminy Christmas, in #482 I wrote “referendum” instead of “denominator.” You could put a gun to my head and I wouldn’t be able to tell you how that happened.

    476. DW says:

      @AdamLaxalt – “Clark County Clerk just reported there are just over 50K ballots left. This number includes Election Day drop off. We know there are rural and Washoe votes to be counted. Assuming these two at least offset, then Cortez Masto needs 63.5% to catch us. We remain very confident.”

    477. Country Dick Montana says:

      Not exactly sure what a rookie legislator in the minority party can do for her district. If she votes the way they want her to then there should be no problem, considering that the alternative is someone who will vote against their interests.

      Perhaps people interests changed between the time she was elected and now.

      This again gets back to the good candidate/bad candidate debate. If people are going to vote against their interests because the one representing those interests is a “bad candidate”, then quite frankly we are just judges in a popularity contest. Or maybe people simply don’t care as much as we do.

      Of course I don’t vote anymore, so we have that.

    478. Tgca says:

      475

      Scott proposed minimum tax for some low income households with exceptions and exempting those that meet certain criteria which probably would have been the majority of current low income households with elderly and children or offset by other credits.

      His proposal was directed at those that can work but refuse to work and benefit from the gubbermint programs.

      As someone who prepared hundreds of tax returns when I practiced tax for the Big 4 Accounting firms, as well as in Corporate America, and also worked on a Masters Degree in Tax, I agree many do not pay their fair share of taxes and often are subsidized by high income earners and there should be ways to ensure they pay their fair share.

      I don’t agree with the details of his plan that he proposed publicly which was light on specifics but his intent was to tax the freeloaders and not those with basic needs, and that I agree with if done right.

      Unfortunately for him, he evidently did not vet it with many others in the GOP who hate ANY tax increases whatsoever, even for freeloaders.

      Remember, his 11 or 12 point plan had many things beyond taxes that was similar to the Contract with America, and he ultimately removed the tax component increases after GOP pushback.

      The devil is always in the detail but at least he tried to put forth a strategic plan like any business leader or Gubbernor should do and Mitchie wanted no plan at all. Mitchie was just let people vote. We don’t need to give guidance.

    479. Wes says:

      That’s pure speculation, CDM. As Meldrim told you, CO-3 is now more GOP than in 2020. If Boebert is in trouble in a district that favors her party, then there’s clearly a problem with the candidate.

      Going the Rich Baris route of blaming the voters isn’t going to change the fundamentals of politicking.

    480. hugh says:

      Scott putting out his plan played right into the democrats hands. There was nothing wrong with the plan as policy, but I am saying it was terrible politics. Also, Scott is a lousy communicator. It gave the democrats a way to attack republicans on ss and medicare. They would do it anyway, but usually no one pays much attention. Really bad politics.

    481. Country Dick Montana says:

      Wes – I didn’t blame the voters, I said perhaps their interests have changed. If there are a lot of indies and they voted for Trump in 2020, perhaps some were put off by January 6 or his drama afterwards. Dobbs happened and apparently is important especially to independent (and some GOP) women.

      But I will stand by what I said about a bad candidate voting for thier interests vs. an opponent voting againt them.

    482. Wes says:

      Right, Tg. Because Democrats weren’t going to demagogue a proposal put forth by a Republican that included tax increases even after that provision was removed.

      All politics is local. Maybe people running for office need to remember that in the future.

      Republicans had ready-made issues of inflation and gas prices to run on. They should have stayed laser focused on those instead of having discordant messaging about abortion and, in the case of people like Bolduc and Masters, running against the GOP Senate leader, rather than the Democrats.

    483. DW says:

      Wes, we needed to redo a contract with America on the doubled price of gas and food, and the loss of savings. We needed to nationalize that and stress that instead of working to solve these things, Democrats were only interested in castrating little boys and forcing you to use certain pronouns.

    484. Tgca says:

      475

      I know many people who have special living arrangements and take advantage of getting gubbermint benefits without paying taxes but they’re able to go out and do recreational activities, hang out at the gym, etc.

      Many gay men did this for years. They got disability for simply being HIV+ even with no symptoms of illness and did not have to work but spent all day at gym or doing recreational activities or simply hanging at home or coffee shops. I saw this all the time in NY and SF.

      Same with many on welfare. I knew numerous women growing up who claimed they could not work because they had kids but then spent days hanging out with friends or watching TV while the kids were in school most of the day. Others paid for their leisure time a good 6 to 7 hours daily when the kids were not around.

      These people should pay some level of taxes or do community service and not just get total exclusions or credits so they can freeload off taxpayers.

      That’s where Scott’s plan was intended to tax. It was not hardworking people or the elderly on low incomes.

      So if you wish to talk tax with me some time, let me know. It’s been years since I practiced and I don’t recall all the rules but I can pull out all my old books and Code and Regs and educate you in all types of taxes, schedules, exclusions, IRS rulings, legal precedents, etc.

      Just let me know. Maybe you can exchange a back rub for the wealth of knowledge I share with you which by the way may be taxable under certain IRS regulations.

    485. Dylan says:

      By the time 2024 rolls around, the issues and infrastructure needed to win that election will have changed yet again It’s like the pentagon always prepping to win the last war and the battlefield has changed to cyber and not artillery and naval vessels——the current leadership really has no understanding of what they don’t know that they will need to learn to win. I liked cash cow’s post the other night about what it takes to win the EC and subtracting out the un winnable states——-GOP has no ability to cleanly win the EC Or even an inside straight plan to win it

    486. Country Dick Montana says:

      Get rid of the income tax. Tax the states based on population and leave it up to them how they collect it. It would be interesting to see 50 different methods and to see which ones work.

    487. Tgca says:

      490

      The message of inflation and crime and the economy did not matter in many races because the voter base was more interested in social and woke issues.

      Think PA where the voters in that state elected two dead men, one a CongressCritter and one a Senator.

      Also think WA. Smiley was an excellent focused candidate had no chance against wokesters.

      Indoctrinated “yoot” voters and the “single women” voted like 2/3 for socialism over issues like crime, inflation, and the economy.

      CRT, tranny rights, mutilating children genitalia, drag Queen programs for kindergarteners, reparations, and ABORTION among many people who are not impacted by any of these voted for candidates whose focus are on these things.

    488. Skippy says:

      “A true leader understands when they have become a liability. A true leader understands that it’s time to step off the stage, and the voters have given us that very clear message… I could not support him.”

      —VA Lt. Gov. Winsome Sears (R) comes out against Trump’s 2024 candidacy

    489. Wes says:

      All right, CDM.

      Let’s go with your contention that voters’ priorities had changed in two years.

      As a Congresswoman, Boebert presumably has field offices and district staff. As a candidate, she has pollsters and campaign workers to give her feedback and help her craft a strategy to help her win.

      If will all that, Boebert couldn’t realize she might be in trouble, wouldn’t that make her, as Meldrim said, a bad candidate?

    490. Country Dick Montana says:

      If her constituents priorities change and they aren’t in line with what she represents (is she going to suddenly be for abortion) then she is not a bad candidate, just the wrong candidate.

    491. Wes says:

      Washington State is hardly representative of the country as a whole, Tg. It’s been a far-left state for decades now. In fact, since 1992, Republicans have won a Senate or gubernatorial race exactly once because the state’s major population center is a mecca for woke liberals shielded from the consequences of their actions.

      Despite a theoretically friendly environment, Republicans underperformed nationally Tuesday because they had poor candidates and lackluster messaging in areas where they should rightly have won. They need to change that going into 2024.

    492. Wes says:

      Somehow I doubt in a R+6 rural-based district, voters were demanding every abortion that can happen occur. That’s sheer speculation on your part as an attempt to cover for her underperformance.

      Of course even on abortion, Republicans can take a moderate stance that allows for abortions under certain circumstances within the first trimester. That would be a reasonable stance to most voters. If Boebert took the National Right to Life position–I don’t know if she did or didn’t since I haven’t looked into it–then she hurt herself by taking an extreme position on an issue that would be uncomfortable to her constituents.

      We’re still going back to her being a bad candidate under your scenario regardless of how you try to spin it.

    493. Tgca says:

      I agree the GOP needs better messaging but hard to have that when you have leadership that doesn’t focus on messaging at all.

      I just watched an interview of a firm that monitors polls and why the polls did not match the results in many areas and their argument was not that the GOP didn’t have a message but the message was not getting to people like the Dems message.

      Of course, the Dems have MSM and Big Tech to help them get their message out because Dem leaders are bumbling idiots at messaging.

      The GOP leaders are disconnected from the voters and have no messaging getting to them, especially to counter Dems message to needed audiences.

    494. Country Dick Montana says:

      The candidates in 2024 will be chosen by the same people who chose all those bad candidates in 2022.

      Messaging sounds like something a political consultant might say.

      Voters will vote their priorities, which may not be ours. Either they want to change or they want continued pain. What you said about WA is correct. Most liberals now are protected from the consequences of their actions.

    495. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      San Francisco woke policies protecting Paul Pelosi’s attacker from deportation.

      “San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins said Thursday that she will refuse to turn the suspect over to ICE officials citing the San Francisco’s sanctuary city policies which ban departments and officials from assisting immigration officers with detentions or deportations…

      Jenkins said in a statement hours after US Immigration and Customs Enforcement publicly disclosed the hold on David DePape, “San Francisco is a sanctuary city and our policy is sacred.”

      She added, “We will not be collaborating or coordinating with ICE.””

      It’s now time for Pelosi to apologize to his attacker for calling the police. It traumatized him. Pelosi should be ashamed.

    496. Country Dick Montana says:

      R+6 in a state that has moved left doesn’t need a whole lot of change in 2 years to make it 50-50.

      Bad candidate is subjective. If she loses she is the wrong candidate for her constituency.

    497. Tgca says:

      Elections are indeed local and that plays a factor beyond candidate quality but perhaps candidate ideology is what did many GOPers in this cycle.

      Boebert is nearly identical to Marjorie Taylor Greene in politics and Trump sycophant and Greene won in a landslide. Not so much Boebert.

      Location! Location! Location!

      Think CA. The GOP may end up with less than 10 out of 52 congressional seats even though only 60% of CA is radically left.

    498. Tina says:

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      @marklevinshow
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    499. Tina says:

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    500. Cash Cow TM says:

      MD CD 6 UPDATE

      (R) Neil Parrott about noon today put out a thing on Facebook saying he is currently ahead by about 4,500 votes.

      However, he is told there are about 30,000 VBM ballots that have come in/are still coming in.
      Thy have to count those. He did not elaborate as to any breakdown as to how many VBM ballots were from which counties. Then there will be provisional ballots to deal with and count. He thinks all this counting will be done by Nov. 18.

      He says his people think the race will be decided by about 100 votes. And then a recount most certainly would have to take place.

    501. bob says:

      In CO-3:

      Boebert 160432 50.2

      Frisch 159203 49.8

      98% reporting

    502. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      ““Could you explain to people viewing who don’t know politics closely and as well as you do, how historic last night was?” Scarborough asked Carville.

      “I’m going to try because I’m sitting here saying if you put everything in a computer, we should have lost 57 seats. Four, five Senate seats, and the reason is Donald Trump. He brought people out to vote against this. He had a suppressive affect. He out trumped inflation and crime. He out trumped the normal cycle of the first off-year election with an incumbent president. When political historians unearth this they are going to find so much more that we missed this morning.” Carville explained.”

    503. Meldrim says:

      “R+6 in a state that has moved left doesn’t need a whole lot of change in 2 years to make it 50-50.”
      _____________

      CDM, that’s quite the ignorant statement. It would require a HUGE change to turn a 54 Trump, 46 Biden district from two years ago into a 50-50 district today. And I guarantee you that Trump wouldn’t have struggled to beat Biden in that district two days ago Tuesday.

    504. Brandon says:

      Laxalt nets 381 after a dump from Elko County.

    505. Country Dick Montana says:

      Is it 54-46 +8 or plus 6.

      8% takes a change of 4% to make it 50-50. About 13000 or so votes. If it is R+6 then that is 3% or 10000 votes. Independents can be be notoriously fickle.

      In the meantime, you seem to be incredibly smart. So much smarter than me. But being an engineer I tend to be objective. Define for me objectively “bad candidate.

    506. Tgca says:

      511

      Absurd analysis!

      Dems and MSM are trying to spin losses as a win.

      If they lose the House and/or Senate, will they claim it’s a win?

      They are trying to distract from Biden’s failed policies and make it the country is supporting him.

    507. NYCmike says:

      “Laxalt nets 381 after a dump from Elko County.”

      -This is what the United States is reduced to……how pathetic!

      I remember thinking back in 2000, with the “hanging chads” election, how embarrassing that was, and that Republicans, since they were in power, need to fix that. JEB! came through on that, with flying colors!

      Meanwhile, in Democrat-run states, each election year becomes more delayed than the next!

    508. NYCmike says:

      “In the meantime, you seem to be incredibly smart. So much smarter than me. But being an engineer I tend to be objective. Define for me objectively “bad candidate.”

      -Wes will rub a good reason out shortly.

    509. NYCmike says:

      And Meldrim too!

    510. Country Dick Montana says:

      You can also tell me how to keep the same voters that produced “bad candidates” in 2022 from making the same mistake in 2024.

      You guys talk about messaging and such. If the consequences of the worst inflation and economy in 40 years and the thuggish attempts to silence unwoke speech and thought are not message enough then my friend there is no message.

      The country has changed. It is not coming back.

    511. Wes says:

      Objectively bad candidate:

      Doug Mastriano (R-PA)

      1) no money

      2) no political organization

      3) out of touch with potential constituency on all major issues

      4) incompetently run campaign

      5) double-digit loss that dragged down almost the entire rest of the ticket

      Would you argue Mastriano was not objectively a bad candidate, CDM?

    512. Country Dick Montana says:

      Wes-I would agree with your assessment there. Now how do we prevent such a candidate from becoming one?

    513. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Republican 2024 presidential primary race begins. Trump attacks DeSantis:

      “…Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn’t have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just average—middle of the pack—including COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people from badly run States up North would go no matter who the Governor was, just like I did,” Trump wrote.

    514. Meldrim says:

      #514, CDM, I already explained to you, in detail, how a rating of R+6 is computed. Go back and re-read it. Anyways, if Trump had tied Hillary and Biden in the national popular vote in 2016 and 2020, then an R+6 district would be a 56R-44D district (a 12% victory margin). But since the two-party presidential vote in those two elections went 52 Democrat and 48 Trump, then R+6 means that the district is 54 R and 46 D (given that 48+6=54).

      As for what makes someone a bad candidate, I don’t think that there’s a precise definition that would be applicable to all cases, but being on the cusp of losing an election that any competent Republican would have won handily certainly fits any criteria that one may offer.

    515. VictrC says:

      CDM

      We fix that by first and foremost, stop allowing Dems to vote in our primaries. Make registering for voting in the primary more stringent.

      As has been talked about the past couple of days, Dems meddling in our primaries brought us some poor candidates.

      Secondly, we do have to realize that more fervent voters vote in midterm primaries, as opposed to the more casual voter who comes out in a Presidential year. I don’t know how we get better candidates short of having all candidates being reviewed by a committee, or having some criteria for running (two things I really don’t think should happen…but, yall wanted suggestions)

    516. Country Dick Montana says:

      Meldrin is is R 54 minus D 46 is 8.

      If it is D 48 then it would be R 52.

      They should add up to 100 correct?

    517. Country Dick Montana says:

      Anyway I suppose the definition of a bad candidate is one that loses.

    518. Tgca says:

      519. CDM

      My view is that a significant part of this country has gone waaay left and are content with the US losing its worldwide superiority.

      This is the reason I got rid of most of my gay acquaintances and friends and keep my distance from them as much as possible. Many of them are well-educated and have respectable careers…but they are leftist radicals. They will rationalize away their support for a radical agenda.

      I can’t grasp how one can support ABORTION up to birth or why they support mutilation of young teens genitalia or teaching kindergarteners about sexual orientation.

      I just can’t get past that so I got them out of my life. I think that’s what people may need to do to cope with our radically changing country if it bothers them that much. People may need to ostracize their own friends and family who support these radical agendas destroying the country.

      We can no longer agree to disagree on such destruction to our core beliefs.

    519. Wes says:

      Not necessarily, CDM. Tiffany Smiley was a good candidate in WA. She made no gaffes, barnstormed the state, and worked hard for the seat she was trying to win.

      She still lost.

      In this instance, the Evergreen State defaulted to its partisan baseline and rejected Smiley simply because she had an R next to her name. Had Smiley been in a less reflexively liberal state, she probably would have won.

    520. Tina says:

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      @markgeragos
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      Merrick Garland! $500 – in CASH – if you indict him at 9 p.m. Tuesday. twitter.com/learyreports/s…

    521. Country Dick Montana says:

      Unfortunately Wes I believe that we now have a liberal/progressive default baseline nationally.

      You may continue to dabble in politics because you like it. It is to you what fishing and hunting is to me. You will continue to watch it happen and try to understand why, but in reality, with the exception of an election or two we will be primarily one party.

    522. Tina says:

      Michael Stratford

      @mstratford
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      1h
      This is the most serious legal setback for Biden admin’s program so far.

      Pittman, a Trump appointee, ruled in 26-page decision that the debt relief policy is “an unconstitutional exercise of Congress’s legislative power and must be vacated.”

      https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.368635/gov.uscourts.txnd.368635.37.0.pdf

    523. NYCmike says:

      #532 – this decision couldn’t have been handed down 2 weeks ago??

      Timing is everything!

    524. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      So the nation is going to hell in a handbag, except in Florida, where the Republicans romped. Perhaps we should look for new leadership from those who are responsible for what happened in Florida? But no, we have to go down with the ship captained by a cranky old guy approaching 80 years of age who just proved very effective at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

    525. Country Dick Montana says:

      I think Trump is finished. It will take a while but he is done.

      His coalition/constituency still exists. The next person up will have to earn that coalition and that includes the next shiny object some are ready to anoint.

      There are others out there. Younkin, Noem to name a couple. Let’s see how things fall out over the next few months.

    526. Bitterlaw says:

      SDC – Sssshhhhhh. You’re ruining the gloom.

    527. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “@Cernovich
      Some clear takeaways:

      – New Yorkers want crime. It’s who they are. Stay out of cities.

      – Arizona today shows 2024 is unsafe. Indictments must happen. Highest priority.

      – Trump can’t carry a general.

      – DeSantis can pull independent voters. Flipped Miami Dade. It’s his time.”

    528. Country Dick Montana says:

      Bitter is finally happy that others are as miserable as he is.

      I will get over mine and embrace the absurdity of our current political situation. I don’t vote so I have no dog in the fight.

    529. Tina says:

      Since she was mentioned a lot here today:

      Election Wizard ??

      @ElectionWiz
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      UPDATE: Rep. Lauren Boebert (R) leads challenger Adam Frisch (D) by 1,229 votes with an estimated 98% reporting.

    530. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      536. I am not worried about the gloom; I am worried the insanity.

      Often we end up loving a football coach, but when the losses begin piling up, you have to get a new coach. We are at that point now regarding Republican leadership. To paraphrase a famous TV personality: “Donald Trump – your fired.”

    531. SoHope says:

      “SoHopeLess” that is actually a good one Tgca.

    532. Bitterlaw says:

      CDM – I’m not miserable. I am disappointed in the election results. I also know what hell is. Bad elections are not it.

    533. Bitterlaw says:

      SDC – My sister-in-law posted a photo of the view from her house. I saw the water and sunshine and thought, “Wow. So beautiful and I have no interest in going there.”

    534. Tina says:

      Except trump was not coach. Coach was fired in 2020.

    535. Tina says:

      Bl, you were so close to San Diego, when you were in Sin City.

      You were even “close” to Sf. I could have given you a tour of the only home owned by a vip without security; Twitter Hq; and the gg bridge.

    536. Bitterlaw says:

      Apparently, nobody told the Coach.

    537. Bitterlaw says:

      Thanks, Tina. I never expected to go as far West as I did. I din’t think I will ever go to California. My wife has gone without me. She can go again without me.

    538. Tina says:

      Bl you said that. I remarked on here what the hell were you doing out west.

    539. John says:

      CNN is now reporting that Nevada has 105,000 outstanding ballots left to calculate after the reporting that Cortez Masto failed to reach the 63.5% of the vote in the lastest dump.
      This was after Laxalt said just 50,000 votes were left to count.
      Which is it? 105,000 or 50,000?
      Or just counting to get the result you want?

    540. NYCmike says:

      How is Youngkin doing in VA? Haven’t heard much about him.

    541. NYCmike says:

      “105,000 outstanding ballots”

      -Ballots, not votes?

      Are they filling them in as we speak?

    542. Tina says:

      There is no control in nevada.

      Mail is still coming in. And they can “cure” defective ballots still.

      With that said, laxalts martins have increased slightly since earlier today. Now up to 13,605 margin.

    543. Tina says:

      Margins*

    544. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Bitter, Coronado is one of the nicest places in the U.S. It is very conservative because of the large military presence. The Navy SEALS are based there. Right now, there are three aircraft carriers in port. Also the historic U.S. Midway aircraft carrier is nearby. Everyone needs to tour it at least once. And if you want a break from squids, there is a large Marine base across the bay (we also have the “Top Gun” Marine airbase in the city). Then there is the zoo, beaches and a lot of nice things to do. You definitely needs to visit your family in San Diego.

      Frankly, I find Las Vegas fake and boring. There is nothing more stupid than watching people gamble away their money. The only thing I do in Vegas is drive on the I-15 through it. But the Grand Canyon trip was well worth it.

    545. JeffP says:

      522…DJT is hilarious…criticizing DeSantis for Covid shutdowns. He made “Tony…he likes me…Fauci a household name” He shut down a whole damn country for two weeks then a couple more. Which was unnecessary. His plan operation war speed a vaccine that was not properly tested and did not work. This is not 2015/2016. Trump talking about some meeting with the establishment DeSantis has…WTF…if I remember correctly he endorsed … like all of them.

    546. gameboy says:

      Just like that Hobbs is up $30K votes on Lake in AZ. I thought the outstanding vote was supposed t break for Lake LOL Must be nice to be the person in charge of your own election.

    547. NYCmike says:

      #556 – DeSantis might be well-served to take the approach that Trump took in the 2nd debate against Biden…….let Trump bloviate about him again and again, then give a good reply at the right time.

      Such mixed emotions I have – Trump was a true warrior! But man oh man, he just simply is unable to grow as a person! The traits that made him great are also his downfall!

    548. Tina says:

      Regarding Az, the mariciopa count is early vote. This was the last batch tonite. Lake and Hobbs almost split this equally.

      They have not counted the remaining Election Day vote in Maricopa.

    549. Tina says:

      I doubt that there are 100,000 Clark county ballots left.

      The clerk stated 50,000 today.

      Laxalt should win.

    550. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      558. “traits that made him great are also his downfall!” True. We owe him a huge debt of gratitude. He was the warrior who took down the corrupt establishment. Who can forget the excitement on election night 2016.

    551. John says:

      Dang.
      Big batch (18,400) of Washoe County in Nevada just came in…
      + 4500 for Cortez or 61% which is below what she needs if the 50,000 count left to calculate is corret.
      Laxalt’s state lead is down to 9,000.
      If it is 50,000 that was left to count then Laxalt looks to be the winnner. If not…..

    552. Tina says:

      Breaking

      AP Politics

      @AP_Politics
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      BREAKING: Republican Eli Crane wins election to U.S. House in Arizona’s 2nd Congressional District, beating incumbent Rep. Tom O’Halleran. #APracecall at 8:54 p.m. MST.

    553. Dylan says:

      Wasn’t Washoe County supposed to result in a net + for Laxalt? This is getting to be so predictable ……and with Lindsey Graham assuring victory I am now quite alarmed

    554. VictrC says:

      How funny, albeit it sad since we had been expecting 230-250 seats, would it be if Boebert’s victory was the one that put us at exactly 218 and crushed the Dems hope of keeping the House.

    555. jason says:

      It is probably Clark, not Washoe. Pretty impossible for CCM to net 4500k out of 18k Washoe votes.

    556. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      When the dust settles, it is possible we could have a 50-50 Senate again.

    557. VictrC says:

      Jason

      Is that out of the 50K remaining, meaning there are 32,000 still out there?

      Ironically, if there were 32K now remaining, she would need EXACTLY that percentage to gain 8,000 votes, just about what she needs to overtake Laxalt.

      If not, then she only needs to get 59% of the remaining 50K votes to get 9,000 net votes and just about overtake him.

    558. VictrC says:

      SDC – I think it comes down to Walker, and whether we (meaning DJT et al) can come together and push him over the line. Everyone, and I mean everyone, Kemp, DJT, DeSantis, McConnell, whomever, needs to get to GA and push him over the line.

      I don’t see how Masters makes up 100K+ votes with 297K left out in AZ. Thats approximately a 70/30 split, Is that even possible. Some of you out there have better insight on AZ than I do

    559. jason says:

      Trump made up about 100k votes in the end in 2020, but not sure it was the same type of votes.

      The drop off votes at the end were running about 2 to 1 for Rs, if the whole 300k left is drop off I suppose it is possible but not probably.

      Should be easy for Lake, she is only down 30k.

    560. jason says:

      Reading through the thread.

      I think a lot of you are making a big mistake here.

      The election was not a referendum on Trump, it was a referendum on Biden.

      He did pretty well.

    561. jason says:

      -jason, just to clarify – did someone say he was the “Golden Calf”?”

      No, I made it up. Glad you liked it.

      When Moses climbed the mountain, the inmates then took over and made a golden calf as their new God.

      Trump brought Rs into the Promised Land, but now the natives are restless and have themselves a Golden Calf to venerate.

      In the Bible, Moses became angry and destroyed the Golden Calf.

    562. Florida Guy says:

      Dan Cox at 37% is sign of a national red ripple, to be honest. At least.

    563. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      570. Hope your right. Am a bit worried about Nevada now.

    564. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “@thegarance
      We’re 3 election cycles (2018, 2020, 2022) deep from Trump’s one win. Rs lost big in 2018, lost the WH in 2020, and stalled in 2022. It’s time to render a verdict on the electoral appeal of Trumpism outside of a primary election contest for a safe R seat.”

    565. Country Dick Montana says:

      I have no problem letting Trump go. We need to keep many of his policies. If we go back to “normal” establishment GOP then be prepared to remain in the minority for a very long time.

      I am still not sure how any GOP candidate wins states that elected Whitmer, Evers and a dead man to office.

    566. Tgca says:

      This is an excellent article addressing the blame game.

      I like the coined phrase about McLeadership referring to McConnell, McCarthy, and McDaniels. In my view, they are part of the problem of not putting forth an agenda to the American people and aggressively advocating it. They simply complained about Biden’s failures but offered no plan that the party could campaign on.

      He touches on the points me and my vile meat-eating good friend Jadon have made.

      https://raheemkassam.substack.com/p/blame-trump-for-the-red-trickle-nonsense

    567. Bitterlaw says:

      Tina – My wife always wanted to see Vegas and the Grand Canyon so I went. I am drawing a line at California. She did go with with my children 2 years ago to San Diego. I stayed home and worked.

    568. Tgca says:

      541. SoHopeLess

      I aim to please.

      *Hug*

    569. Tgca says:

      I’m gonna take my good friend Bitter to San Francisco on one of my famous walking tours where for hours we walk up and down hills as I show him the sights of the city until his legs are sore.

      Then we’ll have a exquisitely tasty tofu dinner at a nice vegan restaurant of his choice.

      Finally, we’ll wrap it up at some bar where we’ll watch a bunch of snowflakes and trannies live in all their glory.

      If we’re lucky, maybe as we depart we’ll get to see a 9.0 earthquake level this woke haven.

    570. Skippy says:

      572,

      BRRRAAAHHHAWAAA!!!!

      What?

      Biden’s approval numbers are in the tank. Trump’s ongoing stench over GOP is what hurt us in this election cycle.

      My lord, you can’t stop can you Jason.

      Rip up your Trump poster you have hanging on your ceiling and get yourself some help or go fine a different hobby or interest.

    571. Tgca says:

      577

      Trump is the escape goat here for a failed McLeadership message.

      Last I looked, Trump was not on the ticket in any state in 2022.

      Do you seriously think people were energized to vote on the left because they don’t like Trump?

      You think people said, I hate Trump so much I’m going to vote against whomever he endorses?

      No! People voted because they embrace the far left for the benefits and woke messaging.

      The GOP had no plan for American voters other than Biden sucks.

      Blame McLeadership! They did not do their job.

    572. ESQ5O says:

      My home state of South Carolina turned a shade redder.

      Republicans picked up a supermajority in the state house (no state senate races).

      Governor McMaster, Senator Scott, and Representative Mace all won by double digits. The GOP also won every other statewide race by double digits.

      And in Charleston County (light blue), the GOP flipped the county council and took over the school board (second largest school board in the state).

    573. Skippy says:

      583,

      Oh really?

      Are we now going to rally around Trump again as the basket case narcissistic Jackwagon makes a fool of himself on his social media platform?

      Did you see how his candidates do on Tuesday?

      LOL!

      Trump is done. He has turn himself into a punchline.

    574. Tgca says:

      As endorsements go, Trump did well in winners.

      Many came very close as well but no cigar.

      The GOP will flounder again in 2024 if it does not develop a coherent message and sell it…and sorry! Biden sucks is not a good enough message.

      Imagine if McLeadership had developed a coordinated message similar to the Contract with America and sold it to the American people for months on end the difference a lot of these close races would have made, especially since GOP turnout was huge this cycle.

      This will go down in the books as a missed opportunity for just hoping your opponent fails.

    575. Tgca says:

      585. Skippy

      Trump endorsed over 200 candidates is my understanding and the vast majority won.

      Compile a list. Check it out.

      Stop listening to the media talking points. They’re trying to deflect from Biden and demoralize the GOP. It’s a strategy. The Dems could lose the House and Senate, and the media’s message was “there’s no red wave.”

      You’re being emotional.

      Have some oolong tea. It reduces stress and anxiety.

    576. Tgca says:

      584

      Yes! My state of Floreedah did extremely well too.

      The South Rises Again!

      Duh Duh Duh Dun!!!

    577. Skippy says:

      Tgca,

      Ahhhhhh….let’s all point towards the shiny objects of the media conspiracy do we don’t have to look what is right in front of us.

      Trump is a narcissistic clown who is a huge albatross hanging around the necks of the GOP.

      This country can’t have Democrats winning the White House again in 2024. It’s time for you and others to grow up and unshackle yourselves of this stupid cult of personality hang up you have with this narcissistic clown.

    578. Skippy says:

      Sunny McSunnyface
      @sunnyright

      Note that Trump isn’t sending out screeds attacking Republicans who lost and thus handed wins to far-left Democrats.

      He’s attacking the biggest Republican winner of the night — a staunch conservative known for fighting wokism, taking on the media, and rejecting shutdowns.

      ———————-

      Trump is a narcissistic, unfit, sad clown.

      He can’t end up being GOP nominee for President in 2024.

    579. jason says:

      Trump was not on the ballot. He hasn’t been President for 2 years. Biden is the President. His policies are here for all to see.

      Biden and his policies were on the ballot.

      They did pretty well. When push comes to shove, people want the handouts and the free st-ff.

      If the TDS morons want to blame Trump for that be be my guest.

      All it does is cement the GOP as a minority party permanently. Well deserved.

    580. jason says:

      Hail to the Golden Calf.

      Although “shiny object” fits well too.

      He will take the GOP to the Promised Land, I read it here at HHR.

    581. jason says:

      He can’t end up being GOP nominee for President in 2024.”

      I remember how he couldn’t possibly be the nominee in 2016 too.

      I guaranteed it myself.

    582. Phil says:

      He’s (Trump) attacking the biggest Republican winner of the night – a staunch conservative known for fighting wokism, taking on the media, and rejecting shutdowns.

      I just don’t get it. Well, yeah, I actually do. It’s Trump being Trump. He can’t help himself…..and now he’s using the same tactics he used to take out Jeb Bush. The difference is, of course, that Jeb was a squish and was ripe for those attacks. You might even say he earned them. DeSantis, on the other hand, due to his record, is certainly no squish. He’s the exact opposite. He’s a fighter.

      The Donald needs to hold his tongue when it comes to the Governor of Florida.

      Sadly, we all know he won’t.

    583. Bitterlaw says:

      If I have to be on a plane longer than 5 hours, it better be landing in Dublin or London and not in California.

    584. jason says:

      Did you see how his candidates do on Tuesday? ”

      I bet the vast majority won.

      If only “Trump candidates” lost, you could almost, but only almost make the case Trump had anything to do with this.

      But the fact is the Red Wave simply did not materialize pretty much nation wide. Very few GOP incumbents lost, the problem was Dem incumbents didn’t either.

      So the argument that that the GOP “lost” because of Trump is BS. If that was true GOP incumbents would have lost across the country. And the argument that the GOP “failed to gain” because of Trump is even less plausible.

      The fact is Biden’s policies are not that unpopular. The polls show BBB was actually popular, even the one that didn’t pass. Erasing student debt is popular. Codifying Roe v. Wade is popular. VBM is popular.

      We are actually lucky Biden is a doddering fool, if he wasn’t he could probably sell all this a lot better.

      The problem is not Trump. The country has moved left on cultural issues. Things we would have thought impossible like men competing in girl’s sports and child mutilation and all this woke st-ff are mainstream now. A huge percentage of younger people admire socialism.

      Arizona is being invaded by illegals. The Dems are still winning there. You want to blame that on Trump? The fact is too many people in AZ, like CA and NM, don’t really see it as a problem.

      What happened to “all politics are local”? That went away because of Trump? Did people in MI vote for a disaster like Whitmer because of Trump? Let’s get real. They voted for her because while we here at HHR think she is the Devil incarnate, most people in MI aren’t bothered by her policies.

      The solution for the GOP is not getting rid of Trump or anointing a Golden Calf. Both ideas are simplistic and miss the real problem.

    585. Country Dick Montana says:

      I will ask those people smarter than me to tell me which GOP candidate will win the states that elected Whitmer, Evers, Fetterman (along with another dead man). The people in those states suffered from lockdown and a horrible inflation yet they went back to status quo.

      So who wins those states and with what policies?

    586. Tgca says:

      I’m glad my protege Jadon agrees with me on all this silly Trump bashing.

      Trump was NOT running.

      If you want to blame anyone, blame the GOP leadership a.k.a. The McLeaders or McGOP. The had no message other than Biden sucks and we will win. U fortunately,

      The GOP did very well in many areas and not so well in others.

      They had a very large turnout but it wasn’t enough in areas where lefties dominate.

    587. jason says:

      The Donald needs to hold his tongue when it comes to the Governor of Florida.”

      Zzzzzz….

      How about Trump makes his case, the Golden Calf makes his if he wants to run, and the primary voters decide who they want?

      Or is Amoral Scumbag’s “brokered convention” going to crown the Golden Calf the nominee?

      I read here that “Trump is finished”. That “he can’t possibly be the nominee”, etc.

      If that is the case everyone can relax, right?

    588. WizardofCozz says:

      #597

      Thats been my hang-up for a while. I thought Trump had helped us turn a corner in upper Midwest but we can’t seem to break through there. If we can’t break through there is going to be tough to build majorities.

    589. jason says:

      So who wins those states and with what policies?”

      Well, I read here that the Golden Calf is very popular in Florida, and that all he has to do is show up in those states and people will go, ooohhh, ahhh, the Golden Calf is here, he is much better than Trump, we will all vote for him.

      Slam dunk.

    590. Tgca says:

      I think the solution is starting with new leadership that ACTUALLY has a cohesive message and sells it…and not just a month before an election.

      Get rid of McLeaders like:
      McConnell
      McCarthy
      McDaniels

      The Irish are destroying the GOP!

      F*CK the Irish!

      My great grandmother, who was half Irish, would turn over in her grave to see the weak Irish McLeaders as well as Biden.

    591. jason says:

      I’m glad my protege Jadon agrees with me on all this silly Trump bashing.

      Trump was NOT running.”

      Protege? Hope that gets some points.

      What is hilarious is that had the GOP done well, NONE of the Trump bashers looking for a quick scapegoat would have given him ANY credit.

      I predicted Amoral Scumbag would do this, I guess he has a lot of “proteges” too.

    592. Tgca says:

      I predict DeSanctimonius will fall flat on his face if he proceeds to DC on his current path just like Lil’ Marco did.

      Remember him? Lil’ Marco was the next star that most here latched on to and thought would be POTUS by bringing in the Big Latin Wave across the US.

      Lil’Marco was great at given speeches, just like DeSanctimonius but actually then aligned with the GOP establishment in DC and that’s what brought him down. He lost the people who actually thought he would be The Great Latin Warrior and grow the GOP.

      Now we have people throwing their hope in The Great Italian Warrior who I predict will also align the establishment and disappoint many here.

    593. Tgca says:

      The lefties won mainly because they bribed two large constituencies and got them by a 2/3+ margin.

      They bought the hopes of the “indoctrinated yoots” with more wokeism and debt cancellation.

      They bought the “single women who just want to spread their legs without any accountability” by promising them more benefits rewarding poverty and free coupons to murder babies.

    594. WizardofCozz says:

      #601

      I think a combination of building jobs here, energy independence by drilling oil here, school policies that don’t promote CRT and wokeism, fighting the transgender mutilation in young kids.Lastly, supporting polices that promote families and familuy units. As for the more traditional social issues like gay marriage and abortion, I’d not make those a national priority, abortion is in the states now, we need to work on regional strategies in different areas that can limit and restrict abortion as best we can but at least now its in states and we can work to bring abortion under control that way. Those are my thoughts.

    595. Phil says:

      The Golden Calf

      Good Lord

      If Trump wants to make his case fine…..but come on. Calling DeSantis a “mediocre governor”? Laughable. Good luck selling that one. Even the most ardent Trump supporters aren’t buying that so what’s the point?

      Just Trump being Trump.

    596. jason says:

      The Golden Calf worshipers are off to the a great start.

      They even have started on some commandments…

      1. Thou shall not criticize or speak ill of the Golden Calf

      2. Thou shall hold the Golden Calf above all mortal and immortal politicians

      3. Thou shall believe the Golden Calf is the inheritor of all things good and has been disinherited of all things bad

      4. The Golden Calf needeth not platforms, policies or agendas. The Golden Calf needeth only to be the Golden Calf

      More to come…

    597. jason says:

      Calling DeSantis a “mediocre governor”

      I think he said average.

      If the Golden Calf can’t deal with that he will be in real trouble in the GE.

    598. jason says:

      The Great Italian Warrior ”

      LOL

      That will trigger the TDS morons.

      But sorry there is the fifth commandment:

      5. Thou shall not mocketh the Golden Calf

    599. WizardofCozz says:

      I don’t get how we have could possibly have a Electorate that is going to end up R + 4 and we might not win the House or Senate that is absolutely mind-boggling to me. The Dems are killing us in the really tight races.

    600. jason says:

      It may be too late but this is one way to try to get the country back.

      To the Golden Calf’s credit, he understands this when he delivered the best line of the night of any winner or loser, “wokism comes to Florida to die”.

      “Despite the strong headwinds against conservative candidates locally and nationally, almost 50 Minnesota Parents Alliance-backed school board candidates claimed victory Tuesday night, the group said.

      MPA candidates won seats in 15 of the 19 school districts where they devoted campaign resources, according to Cristine Trooien, executive director of Minnesota Parents Alliance (MPA).

      MPA has a three-fold mission, which is focused on academic achievement, equality, and parental rights.

      “Those are our three overarching themes of our mission statement. That’s where our candidates were focused. Then tack on the transparency and accountability that parents have been trying to get from their school community. That’s really largely what these candidates were running on,” Trooien said.”

    601. jason says:

      If this is true, there are more than 297k ballots left in AZ.

      The AZ – abc15 – Data Guru
      @Garrett_Archer
      AZ outstanding non-provisional ballot estimate as of 7:45pm

      State: 571,813

      Apache 8,500
      Cochise 8,662
      Coconino 12,231
      Gila 269
      Graham 118
      La Paz 1,972
      Maricopa 407,664
      Mohave 10,600
      Pima 114,203
      Pinal 16,281
      Yavapai 12,458
      Yuma 9,180
      9:48 PM · Nov 10, 2022
      ·Twitter Web App

    602. WizardofCozz says:

      #612

      Jason, i think education is a huge win for Republicans and we need to be hammering it hard. Here in KS a bunch of State BoE people were kicked out and the board is now 7-3 republican. Before the Old board leaves though they are passing a bunch of woke crap, they are now recommending getting rid of all native american mascots.

    603. WizardofCozz says:

      #613

      Jason, what’s the 297K number from? I’ve consistently seen more than 500K still outstanding from most observers.

    604. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      I am becoming concerned about Trump’s emotional well-being. This tweet from him is despicable:

      https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1591055889439813632?t=fzBSIAf-I_2zm7KJ7almvg&s=09

    605. Tgca says:

      607

      Who said DeSanctimonius was a “mediocre gubbernor?”

      I think Ronaldo was a good Gubbernor but he has not passed any legislation that puts him as a “great.”

      He was great at giving speeches to mock the woke, that I agree and glad he did.

      …and please do not give me the crap about COVID lockdowns. Floreedah was pretty locked down until Oct 2020 at a minimum, like many other states.

      Many establishments were only allowed to operate at half capacity and people got state and fed welfare through Sep 2021 for not working.

    606. jason says:

      I think the Golden Calf was a great governor.

      I just think that is not enough to win in 2024.

      And I am not offended by anyone calling him average.

    607. gameboy says:

      611

      It’s actually looking more like R + 5-6. It’s not mind boggling when accounting for the blatant fraud going on with the machines and mail in ballots.

    608. jason says:

      WizardofCozz says:
      November 11, 2022 at 9:40 am

      #613

      Jason, what’s the 297K number from”

      VictrC posted it here last night.

      “I don’t see how Masters makes up 100K+ votes with 297K left out in AZ. Thats approximately a 70/30 split, Is that even possible. Some of you out there have better insight on AZ than I do”

    609. jason says:

      I agree with Trump Youngkin would not have won without Trump’s endorsement.

      So what?

      Is Young Kim in CA chinese? Trump could have been making a joke.

      But whatever, the tweet is actually pro-Youngkin, says he is having trouble with the Dems in VA but “will get the job done”.

      The TDS morons are now grasping at straws.

    610. jason says:

      Hope springs eternal.

      “This was the last batch from Maricopa that was set to massively favor Hobbs and she underperformed in a big way. The stage is set for tomorrow when the early ballots dropped off on Election Day begin to be counted which will favor Kari Lake. Game on,” Wall said.

      “1) Dozens of high quality polls indicated Republicans overwhelmingly intended to vote in person, and many of those intended to fill out an early ballot and walk it in on Election Day because they did not trust the post office and viewed that interchangeably with voting in person.

      “2) Donald Trump won E day late earlies in Pima and Maricopa. Voting patterns are way closer to 2020 than they are 2018. They are a world away from 2018, we live in an absolutely different political reality.

      “3) there are tens and thousands of missing high propensity Rs that are not reflected in any of the tabulated ballots at this time. It would be a massive anomaly for these core voters to have not showed up. Those voters will be reflected in the early ballots dropped off on e day,” he added.

    611. Cash Cow TM says:

      576 CDC

      ” “@thegarance
      We’re 3 election cycles (2018, 2020, 2022) deep from Trump’s one win. Rs lost big in 2018, lost the WH in 2020, and stalled in 2022. It’s time to render a verdict on the electoral appeal of Trumpism outside of a primary election contest for a safe R seat.”
      —————————————
      583 tgca

      “Last I looked, Trump was not on the ticket in any state in 2022.”
      ————————-

      OH BUT HE WAS!
      IN EVERTY STATE!

      tgca,

      you have not been absorbing Walt’s/Cows posts of wisdom.

      THINK BACK.

      George Floyd.

      If people got in your face and you did not ‘take a knee’ or ‘say his name’–you were a RACIST.

      Trump DID lose the 2018 election, lost the 2020 election and lost the 2022 election. Yes Trump won in 2016–AGAINST A TRUELY POLARIZING HILLARY CLINTON WHO HAD HUGE NEGATIVE NUMBERS.

      So how to beat “‘Trump’ in 2020?
      Nominate ANYBODY who is not majorly underwater in likeability numbers. [Picture of Joe Biden here].

      Biden did not win because Biden was:

      1. so popular
      2. a great campaigner
      3. had great ideas and was a visionary

      BIDEN WON BECAUSE:
      1. 99% of Democrats were energized for vote for a D because

    612. jason says:

      I hope so because the chances of the election being stolen in NV are at least 90%.

    613. jason says:

      Trump DID lose the 2018 election, lost the 2020 election and lost the 2022 election. ”

      Walt needs to keep that Cow away from the loco weed…

    614. Tina says:

      The Lincoln Pedo project has endorsed Desantis.

      We know what they are doing here, trying to cause a split.

      They are smart in doing this, ultimately Pedo project supports the Drat (Biden).

    615. jason says:

      A man was crowned Miss America.

      I guess this is Trump’s fault too.

    616. jason says:

      The Lincoln Pedo project has endorsed Desantis.”

      Yeah, that tells you something.

      Amoral Scumbag “endorsed” him too… you know, the guy he calls a total bum, Trump clone and clown.

    617. Tina says:

      And what the Pedo project is doing reinforced trump vs the gop-e, which is incompetent.

      I don’t get the blame trump for 2022 when his name was not on the ballot.

      You have to look at the candidate and the vbm.

      What happened in 2020 is happening again in Nv and Az.

      And all the polls in those states were wrong?

      We basically lose all races where polling indicated +1 ro +3, or in lakes cases +10?

    618. Tgca says:

      I just love showing this picture which shows just how far left the country is going due to indoctrination of kids

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biological-man-wins-miss-america-affiliated-beauty-pageant/

    619. jason says:

      I really can’t see SCOTUS disagreeing with this.

      “Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the United States,” United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

      “In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary.”

    620. jason says:

      We basically lose all races where polling indicated +1 ro +3, or in lakes cases +10?

      Interesting that the last few polls showed a blowout for Vance and that happened.

      Same for Lake which gives me some hope.

    621. Tina says:

      I think you can have an honest re assessment of why the gop-e failed here. Maybe the glass is more half full than half empty as the gop vote exceeds the Ds. (By 4 million, maybe more?).

      But,you have to look at Mitchies $$$ bets which we’re not good.

      No nationalization of the election.

      Mitchie wounding candidates in July.

      The fault needs to be wrapped around the necks of the gop-e.

    622. Tina says:

      “Republicans just said, ‘Well, the other side sucks, and Biden sucks.’ Well, no doubt! But it’s pretty hard to convince folks, particularly independent-minded ones who don’t tend to trust the process much, to vote for you, if you don’t have something affirmative to say and offer,” Hawley said in a Friday interview.

      “I lay that at the feet of the Washington establishment that set the tone for these races,” he added. “They failed to offer that kind of vision.”

      Josh Hawley

    623. Tina says:

      McConnell was asked if the GOP would lay out their priorities should they retake the Senate majority.

      “That is a very good question. And I’ll let you know when we take it back,” McConnell told NBC News in January. “This midterm election will be a report card on the performance of this entire Democratic government: the president, the House and the Senate.”

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/11/josh_hawley_blasts_gop_leadership_for_midterm_losses_148459.html

    624. jason says:

      Sorry, I don’t blame Trump or McConnell for the disappointment of this election.

      The problem is the voters and what they believe and are voting for.

      Finding scapegoats is just a cop out instead of facing the real problem.

    625. jason says:

      Awww, Maloney and AOC disagree on why he lost.

      Pass the popcorn.

      .@RepSeanMaloney on soon to be former colleague @AOC:
      “The last time I ran into A.O.C., we were beating her endorsed candidate two to one in a primary, and I didn’t see her one minute of these midterms helping our House majority.”

      Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
      @AOC
      Let’s make something crystal clear:
      – SPM courted me for donations to swing races & it was the 1st thing I did this term. Over a quarter million for Dems this cycle, DCCC facilitated some & now he denies it.
      – If he isn’t aware of my visit to CA & efforts we put in, that’s on him”

    626. Tgca says:

      Now the GOP House can stop Biden’s agenda and start the investigations. The truth needs to come out on J6C.

    627. Cash Cow TM says:

      confrigging continued
      #######################################

      BIDEN WON IN 2020 BECAUSE:
      1. 99% of Democrats were energized to vote for any D because OF DEEP, DEEP, DEEP DISLIKE OF TRUMP.
      –he beat their goddess queen Hillary
      –he appointed conservatives to SCOTUS
      –his administration was doing some good things
      *southern border policies
      *reducing government regulations
      *tax policy
      * etc.

      2. A big slice of Independents tired of Trumps goofiness

      3. a smaller slice of Rs tired of Trump’s goofiness
      **********************************************

      A big wave of Rs did not win seats in House or Senate BECAUSE of TRUMP.

      HOW SO?

      ANY D STRATEGISTS WITH A BRAIN knew they could not win the 2022 election based on the FACTUAL evidence of TOTAL FAILURE OF BIDEN AND D POLICIES.
      _____________________________________________

      The Ds made the election about the toxic and hated TRUMP and the FEAR of his “growing” dominance in the R party and FEAR of him and “his fascist people” returning to power!

      *******************************************
      To wit:

      1. 1000 times R candidates in 2022 were asked if they were election deniers. 1000 times R candidates were asked whether they thought Jan. 6 was an attempt to overthrow the U.S. government and election process. FEAR!

      HURT THE R CANDIDATES (and moved the focus from message of current FACTUAL problems to FEAR of future 2022 and 2024 election. IT WORKED!

      2. The news media ALWAYS went out of their way to tell us which R candidates were “Trump endorsed.” Put a target on their back to many voters.
      FEAR that TRUMP was coming BACK!

      3. D strategy was (which seemed strange to most of us HERE who believed it was a stupid plan) for Biden to go on TV, etc. and do his threat to democracy speeches. INCITING FEAR of the FUTURE and putting in in voters’ minds ABOVE ALL HE INCOMETENT FAILURES OF BIDEN and other Ds) ADMIN. POLICIES (inflation, crime, floods of illegal drugs and aliens pouring across the border, woke-ism, etc., etc. They could not run on their D accomplishments, but they could run on inciting FEAR.
      IT WORKED!

      4. Do Jan. 6 hearings and drag them on throughout the summer and right up to election day. ALL ABOUT TRUMP AND HOW INVOLVED HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE “ATTEMPTED OVERTHROW OF OUR GOVERNMENT”!
      FEAR!
      IT WORKED!

      5. Cow worked every day to give HEADLINE UPDATES on HOW MANY MSM HEADLINES WERE ABOUT TRUMP AND ABOUT ANTI-GOP STORIES. The DRUM BEAT of constant daily wave of stories about Trump and his taxes, Trump and Jan. 6, Trump and this lawsuit, Trump and that lawsuit, Trump and the raid to retrieve classified documents at Mary Largo…and of course Trump’s inarticulate and bombastic RESPONDING to each of these stories in his goofball Trump way–all of which turned off more and more voters and dialed down their support for Trump or dialed up their DEEP HATE a d FEAR of Trump.
      IT WORKED!

      6. Trump HIMSELF played right into the D strategy by
      –making big deal of his endorsements
      –during primaries, trashing good R candidates who were not HIS choice
      –making derogatory statements about EVEN HIS OWN ENDORSED R PRIMARY WINNERS
      –Trump pronouncing that AS SOON AT THE 2022 ELECTION WAS OVER HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A BIG ANNOUCEMENT (we all know what that was/is going to be)

      FEAR OVER FACTS.

      It wins the debate over:
      –COVID
      –CLIMATE CHANGE
      –ELECTIONS
      **********************************************
      WHY HAVE YOU ALL NOT BEEN CLOSELY LISTENING TO COW!

    628. SoHope says:

      Trump demanding loyalty because “DeSantis and Youngkin couldn’t have won without him” is a terrible take for so many reasons.

      How is it any different than the billionaire contributor demanding loyalty because of the check he wrote your campaign. They write the check because they liked what the candidate stands for or wants to back a winner NOT the candidate stands for whoever writes the checks out of a sense of loyalty.

    629. Tina says:

      Well at least getting the house is some good news.

      Hawleys piece mentions Scott and cuts to social security. I think Wes mentioned this the other day.

      That is just stupid.

    630. SoHope says:

      Trump thinks he’s still buying politicians…sad

    631. Country Dick Montana says:

      2. A big slice of Independents tired of Trumps goofiness

      3. a smaller slice of Rs tired of Trump’s goofiness

      If that is true, then given the lockdowns and inflation and wokeness it means one of two things:

      1. Independents and certain GOP were not affected by the lockdowns, inflation, wokeness.

      2. Independents and certain GOP were affected but simply love pain.

      I say give them all the pain they want.

    632. Skippy says:

      https://mobile.twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1591054423601860610

      Somebody needs to get Donald Trump some psychiatric medical attention as in right now.

      For those of you still supporting this doofus for GOP Presidential nomination need to check yourself today. Honestly, this is embarrassing for all you Trumperts.

    633. Cash Cow TM says:

      FEAR WINS OVER FACTS EVERY TIME.

      Teacher unions WVEA, NEA, Gov. Justice and Ds USED FEAR to defeat ALL FOUR very GOOD WV CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS–by a significant margin.
      #########################################
      FEAR WINS OVER FACTS.

    634. Tina says:

      No new material for the Russian hoaxer.

      Glenn Greenwald

      @ggreenwald
      ·
      35m
      Good news! In light of the relatively good outcome for Democrats in the 2022 midterms, there have been no claims about Russian interference in the election. Russia is accused of interfering in Our Democracy only when Democrats do not win.

    635. Tina says:

      Patrick Ruffini

      @PatrickRuffini
      ·
      1h
      In any other world, there’d be wild GOP celebration at a +4 national vote, 58-42 among Hispanics, 14% among African Americans. But these votes turn out to have been inefficiently distributed.

    636. Tina says:

      I wonder if Desantis responds to Pedo Club endorsement.

      He has a sharp press Secretary/campaign response team.

    637. Tina says:

      Insider Paper
      @TheInsiderPaper
      ·
      43m
      BREAKING: The Biden admin has ceased accepting applications for federal student loan forgiveness after a court rejected the plan

    638. SoHope says:

      #648 Florida, Texas, and a respectable showing in New York. The rest of the country was Meh at best and a bloodbath at worst.

    639. DW says:

      Tina, much more important than the money, though that is huge, is the part of the ruling that reigns in King Biden who just reads policies into law, whatever someone put on his teleprompter.

      He is not a king. Constitution was the winner here, along with us.

    640. WizardofCozz says:

      #648

      Tina,

      I saw that post earlier on twitter. I went back through alot of the house races, and it really comes down to the fact, that we are losing a bunch of really close races. We have not done well in those, and that is a major factor in Skewing the House to closer to 50-50 when reality is that Republicans out voted Dems.

    641. Dylan says:

      Masters and Lake going down. No national GOPe outrage over that. Good luck getting any interest in future elections from the GOP electorate. These establishment types think this is 1988 . .. .

    642. Tina says:

      Correct, Dw. I provided the 20 plus page legal ruling on that case.

      The trump judge ripped Biden.

    643. dylan says:

      And btw, isn’t it somebody’s job to play 3D chess on “what it takes to actually win an election nationwide.” So much money gets spent every cycle but it’s like running air into a burst tire. The only people who got rich were the consultants and they are using an old playbook that doesn’t work. I’m still never forgiving PA for Fetterman.

    644. jason says:

      Sorry Cow, you didn’t vote for Trump in 2016 (I didn’t either) but what is your excuse for 2020 when you knew Trump was doing a good job as President and you knew Biden would be a disaster.

      So you always had and still have TDS so you have zero credibility.

      Trump was not on the ballot, and nobody came out to vote against Trump. They voted on the issues and the candidates and we got what we got.

      Nothing to do with Trump.

    645. jason says:

      In any other world, there’d be wild GOP celebration at a +4 national vote, 58-42 among Hispanics, 14% among African Americans. But these votes turn out to have been inefficiently distributed.”

      Blame Trump, morons.

    646. jason says:

      Tina says:
      November 11, 2022 at 10:54 am

      Correct, Dw. I provided the 20 plus page legal ruling on that case.

      The trump judge ripped Biden.”

      Yeah, Trump judge. There are many of them.

      Should we credit the Golden Calf?

    647. Dylan says:

      658–Jason–someone (and I agree it is NOT necesseraly DJT) has to take the blame for the failure of vision/effective strategy. That’s not just handwringing but a necessary part of the post mortem. Over a billion dollars (I actually heard $16B) was spent this cycle. Who on the GOP side needs to face the guillotine for what happened here?

    648. jason says:

      #648 Florida, Texas, and a respectable showing in New York. The rest of the country was Meh at best and a bloodbath at worst.”

      Evidently there were other bright spots in SC, NC, IA, etc.

      Anyone know how the down ballot races turned out. I know two down ballot races in NV swung to the GOP besides the GOV.

    649. Tina says:

      See new Tweets
      Conversation

      Mollie

      @MZHemingway
      Election observers in Maricopa County are saying that they wish the county would add a third shift today to finish processing the 292K election day drop-offs. Not clear why Maricopa County is slow-walking this.
      6:58 AM · Nov 11, 2022
      ·Twitter Web App

    650. Tgca says:

      Tina

      There is no cohesive message from DC GOP other than Biden is bad, it’s true and they ran on it but it was not enough.

      We need a cohesive message that outlines the alternative to Biden. That is the job of GOP leadership.

      If the GOP goes into 2024 with this same strategy as 2022, they will lose.

    651. jason says:

      Who on the GOP side needs to face the guillotine for what happened here?”

      Not sure that is constructive.

      Vast swaths of the country are very left leaning.

      That is the problem beyond any “messaging”.

    652. Tina says:

      Tgca, I just don’t get the blame trump for 2022. (He was not on the ballot or a candidate).

      I think many of Hawley points are valid.

      The Rs (leadership) offered nothing,

      Mitchie told us you will see it after the election (assuming we would win). That is not good marketing at all.

    653. jason says:

      Are we back to 292k?

      What happened to

      If this is true, there are more than 297k ballots left in AZ.

      The AZ – abc15 – Data Guru
      @Garrett_Archer
      AZ outstanding non-provisional ballot estimate as of 7:45pm

      State: 571,813

      Apache 8,500
      Cochise 8,662
      Coconino 12,231
      Gila 269
      Graham 118
      La Paz 1,972
      Maricopa 407,664
      Mohave 10,600
      Pima 114,203
      Pinal 16,281
      Yavapai 12,458
      Yuma 9,180
      9:48 PM · Nov 10, 2022
      ·Twitter Web App”

      292k is definitely enough to help Lake, she would only need a 55/45 split. If there are 500k with a 60/40 split it would help Masters.

    654. Dylan says:

      664—True but . . . .you don’t get to spend billions with complete impunity without there being some accountability. Also, I don’t agree that the problem is beyond messaging. “Messaging” is a science that advertisers have perfected over the last century. There is always some message that will work in an environment such as this. The GOP didn’t truffle hunt it on a national level and they spent their money. .. .

    655. Phil says:

      Vast swaths of the country are very left leaning.

      I’d say we can all agree on that one and you certainly cannot lay that one on Trump.

    656. Tgca says:

      I almost forgot to thank all those MAGA veterans. This is your day enjoy it.

      All you Dem veterans can GFY you traitorous bastards, selling your country down the drain for wokeism.

    657. jason says:

      Governor Kemp’s get-out-the-vote machine is partnering with McConnell’s super PAC.

      Kemp is loaning his get-out-the-vote machine to the Senate GOP’s voter turnout efforts, giving the party entrée to a political team that is increasingly viewed as one of the GOP’s most formidable state operations. The governor ran a gauntlet this year, prevailing over a Donald Trump-backed primary opponent by a lopsided margin before comfortably defeating Democrat Stacey Abrams in the general election.

      Under an agreement that was finalized Thursday, Kemp will transfer his door-knocking, data analytics, phone-banking and micro-targeting program to the Senate Leadership Fund, the McConnell-aligned super PAC that is bolstering Walker. The super PAC will provide the funding for the $2 million-plus effort, which will be run by Kemp’s senior advisers and staffed by more than 100 field workers.

      It’s the first time that Senate Leadership Fund, which spent more than $230 million on advertising this election cycle, has ever funded a get-out-the-vote effort on the ground. But the party has reason to invest heavily in turnout operations in Georgia: Just two years ago, Republicans lost the Senate majority after falling in a pair of runoffs in the state, in part because some GOP-aligned voters decided not to vote.”

    658. Todd McCain says:

      Trump is going off the effing rails now. Going after DeSantis, Youngkin, Oz….etc. etc. This guy needs to go the F away. Mainstream GOPers did well, anyone connected with his brand either underperformed or last badly: Michels, Oz, Mastriano, Dixon, Masters, ….Doesnt even look like Lake is going to win at this point with these Maricopa dumps.

    659. jason says:

      not clear why Maricopa County is slow-walking this.”

      Suspicious minds would think they are building a narrative that it makes sense for Lake and Masters to lose so they can make that happen.

    660. Gordon Allen says:

      Trump not only took another shot at DeSantis in an utterly infantile rant,he’s attacked Youngkin also??
      Neither are announced candidates yet,or have said anything against Trump

      He’s going over and around the bend before our very eyes.
      Both winners btw.

    661. Tina says:

      Good for kemp partnering with the gop e in ga.

      I think he really can help,here, as can Desantis.

    662. jason says:

      Michels, Oz, Mastriano, Dixon, Masters”

      Nice cherry picking there, Todd.

    663. jason says:

      he’s attacked Youngkin also?”

      Zzzzz….

      What he actually said:

      “he is having trouble with the Dems in VA but will get the job done”.

    664. phoenixrisen says:

      Regardless of the blame game for the 2022 mid-terms, Trump right now with these last two truth social posts regarding DeSantis and Youngkin is imploding in a bad way and he is hemorrhaging support badly. Like I said, his mouth is his worst enemy and DeSantis is just going to sit back in silence and let Trump self-destruct. I think Trump is done as far as getting the 2024 nomination. Might not make some people happy in here but just my take IMHO.

    665. Tina says:

      I don’t see an attack on youngkin. Is there something else?

      Seems praiseworthy he will get the job done against the drats.

    666. jason says:

      I guess the attack was a joke about Young Kin sounding Chinese.

      Horrors.

    667. Dylan says:

      I am fine with Trump imploding. I personally like the push back he gave the MSM and love the policies but he’s jumped the shark and cannot win in 2024—which is to say either he categorically cannot win with this electorate or does not appreciate what it will take to win with this electorate. Same thing. Thank you . . .next.

    668. jason says:

      Arizona Republic…seems like good news.

      “More than 500,000 ballots have yet to get counted across the state, with about 320,000 of those in Maricopa County, the state’s most populous county that includes Phoenix. County officials are expected to update their results each evening.

      In Maricopa County, officials have yet to start counting more than 290,000 ballots that were dropped off on Election Day. Those votes ultimately will decide the toss-up race. They have to undergo a process including signature verification that can add to the total time of the count. County officials projected they would release results from about 60,000 ballots each day.

      If 2020 trends hold, those dropped-off ballots would favor Republicans, but in a battleground state that has tinged purple, nothing is certain. Previously, those ballots favored Democrats, propelling statewide candidates including Hobbs to victory.”

    669. jason says:

      Might not make some people happy in here but just my take IMHO.”

      Maybe you can name one person here who has stated they want Trump to be the nominee in 2024.

      This should be good.

    670. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      616. “I am becoming concerned about Trump’s emotional well-being. This tweet from him is despicable:

      https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1591055889439813632?t=fzBSIAf-I_2zm7KJ7almvg&s=09

      Sounds like Trump has gone bonkers. Deep down, he must realize this election was a disaster for his political career. Watching DeSantis do well just rubbed salt into the wound.

    671. Tina says:

      Maricopa also erected fencing around its processing center.

      Something seems weird.

    672. eriepa says:

      Todd, in February 2020, weren’t you the first to post /warn about the rep legistators in PA agreeing to the VBM with Gov WOlfe? I think you even said this would swing PA to the DEms.

      The idiots have been trying to modify it ever since.

    673. jason says:

      which is to say either he categorically cannot win with this electorate or does not appreciate what it will take to win with this electorate. Same thing. ”

      Maybe, but like CDM said above I don’t see anyone else who “appreciates what it will take to win this electorate”.

      And don’t say the Golden Calf or I will LMAO.

    674. jason says:

      Todd, in February 2020, weren’t you the first to post /warn about the rep legistators in PA agreeing to the VBM with Gov WOlfe? I think you even said this would swing PA to the DEms.”

      Huge mistake. It cost Trump PA in 2020. It cost Oz in 2022. It will probably cost ANY R in 2024.

      But with a D gov and a D Scotus, it is here to stay.

    675. jason says:

      Sorry, I see nothing “despicable” about Trump’s tweet.

      Nada. Zero. Zilch.

    676. WizardofCozz says:

      Trump is making a play on words between Youngkin in VA and Young Kim in CA. He even says in the tweet he’s going to get the job done. This is a nothing burger IMO. Now some of Trump’s tweets about Desantis’ are annoying and this isn’t really the time for those, but that isn’t this tweet.

    677. Todd McCain says:

      Yes, I was. I still cannot believe the GOP agreed to no excuse VBM here and it is why it was so important to have a GOP governor to rein this in like they did in GA. I voted for Barletta in the primary; I knew Mastriano was going to be a complete disaster.

    678. Todd McCain says:

      I voted for Trump twice enthusiastically, but at this point he has cost us 4 elections: 2018, 2020, 2020 GA runoffs and 2022. If he runs in 2024 and all he is talking about is how 2020 was stolen from him, he is going to lose a massive landslide and take the entire GOP with him. He is also going to be almost 80 years old. Time to look to the future…………

    679. Todd McCain says:

      675. What do you mean cherry-picking? Those were all his endorsed candidates and they all lost. JD Vance squeaked by after McConnell had to bail him out too.

    680. WizardofCozz says:

      #692

      Todd,

      Vance won by 6 points, that’s not squeaking by.

    681. Paul says:

      Big if true. Youngkin can get out the Asian vote in 2024.

    682. eriepa says:

      I think the “big concession” from Wolfe was elimination of the straight ticket voting option.

      I always thought the biggest problem was you can opt to receive a mail in ballot for every election without having to request it. How many of Fetterman voters would have gotten off their butts and went to the polls on election day as opposed to receiving a ballot in September and sticking it in the mail.

    683. Todd McCain says:

      Yes, he won by 6, but so much GOP money had to go into Ohio that could have been spent elsewhere because Vance ran a lazy campaign, in particular over the summer.

    684. Todd McCain says:

      McConnell also takes a ton of sh*t but SLF spent over 200M on GOP senate candidates whereas MAGA INC only spent 15M. Trump didnt even spend on Mastriano…..What a joke.

    685. Skippy says:

      “GOP% of House vote:
      AZ: 56%
      GA: 53%
      PA: 53%

      Trump endorsed candidates for #AZGov, #AZSen, #GASen, #PASen & #PAGov all underperformed partisan lean of these 3 states. Candidates like Brian Kemp, Brad Raffensperger & Kimberly Yee who Trump did not endorse in primary outperformed”.

      You have to be pretty stupid or be Jason not to understand these numbers and what it means for Trump to be the brand of the GOP.

    686. Todd McCain says:

      Let’s not also forget that Trump tried to primary Kemp. If Perdue had won, Stacey Abrams would probably have won the GA governorship.

    687. WizardofCozz says:

      CNN and MSNBC are fantasizing over Fetterman running for President. That would seem to be a Republicans wet dream if he did!

    688. Tina says:

      Actually trump did endorse Brian kemp. It was in his Ohio speech

    689. JeffP says:

      683 I think the pressure has finally gotten the best of him. His narcissist behavior is disgusting and repels people. The Koolaid drinkers are trying to spin this as a positive.

    690. Country Dick Montana says:

      Jason and I do not agree with each other on multiple issue. The one significant place where we agree is that a ver significant portion of the electorate has moved very left.

      You can say that this was a referendum on Trump, that is fine with me. If you are saying that the hatred for him is more important to people than inflation and loss of freedom (lockdowns and cancel culture) then that says more to me about the electorate than Trump. Our message was gas prices and grocery bills every single day of the week, and a significant number of voters voted for continued pain.

      Let them have pain if that is the case.

      I have said, that I don’t care if Trump runs or not and frankly would like to see some new blood, but his coalition is not going away. With the exception of myself and possibly NYCMike, I have serious doubts if many posters here have any real personal experiences with a wide swath of the working class. I do. They aren’t political junkies. They don’t have time during the day to post on political blogs. They really want simply things, primarily to be left alone. They hate DC and just about all authority and Trump got them because he was a big middle finger to DC. Someone will have to earn that group. If not they won’t vote democrat, they just won’t vote.

      My prediction. Neither Trump nor DeSantis will be the GOP nominee. If one of them is, they lose the GE.

    691. WizardofCozz says:

      Rich Baris “The People’s Pundit”
      @Peoples_Pundit
      ·
      27s
      Someone was bound to say it. I doubt many Democrats would still be supportive of a national popular vote for chamber control at this current moment.

    692. BayernFan says:

      So Masters lost. Lake lost. Laxalt will lose. Walker will lose.

      Dems pick up 2 Senate seats.

      Dems will keep House.

      What a disaster!!! Lol

      Good Lord. Just disband the GOP if it can’t win in this environment. It serves no purpose.

    693. Dylan says:

      Btw–I am starting to see some cracks in the narrative that the GOP has won the house. Fox News website lead story is that it is not a done deal. Also, “some pundits” are saying that there is a 1/5 to 1/4 chance the Dems hold 218/217. Just wow.

    694. Tina says:

      Trash.

      NEWSMAX

      @NEWSMAX
      ·
      11h
      Former President George W. Bush and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will hold a public conversation in Dallas amid questions among House Republicans about the importance of continuing to send money and aid to Ukraine for its fight against Russia. https://bit.ly/3hmxM3O

    695. Todd McCain says:

      I think the GOP will end up with 220-222 House seats, but obviously everyone knows that is an embarrassment with a GOP plus 4-5 environment.

    696. Tina says:

      Wow they won all of those bayer

      Is there a link.

    697. WizardofCozz says:

      #705

      That’s just negative talk with no actual substance. What evidence do you have of that??

    698. WizardofCozz says:

      Rich Baris “The People’s Pundit”
      @Peoples_Pundit
      It definitely is a leadership fail. But Rs underperformance is not explained only by MSG failures.

      D vote was much more efficient, a reversal of history. They have a big tech cabal micro-targeting, MSGing, and a multi-union VBM machine.

      Rs lost a game they didn’t know existed.

    699. jason says:

      TDS morons are really unhinged.

      “JD Vance squeaked by”

      Squeaked by 265k votes.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    700. jason says:

      Jason and I do not agree with each other on multiple issue. The one significant place where we agree is that a ver significant portion of the electorate has moved very left.

      You can say that this was a referendum on Trump, that is fine with me. If you are saying that the hatred for him is more important to people than inflation and loss of freedom (lockdowns and cancel culture) then that says more to me about the electorate than Trump. Our message was gas prices and grocery bills every single day of the week, and a significant number of voters voted for continued pain.

      Let them have pain if that is the case.”

      Yep, they deserve what they get if that is the case.

    701. Tina says:

      Seems like some here wanted Vance to lose.

      Why do we exclude Ohio among the states where Rs did well?

      What about Iowa

      Or South Dakota.

    702. WizardofCozz says:

      David Giglio
      @DavidGiglioCA
      ·
      41m
      Here’s the 2 biggest problems with mass mail-in voting for Republicans.

      1) Unkempt voter-rolls
      2) inability or unwillingness to match the Democrats ballot harvesting operations.

      Unless both those things are addressed, it’s going to keep getting worse for the GOP.

    703. BayernFan says:

      710…. The news. My eyes. Are you not paying attention?

    704. WizardofCozz says:

      #716

      Bayern there are 500K+ votes left in AZ and the majority of these are ED votes, in what world would you say Lake and Masters have already lost. Both, though especially Lake still have an excellent opportunity.

    705. Tina says:

      Incompetent

      Dr. Kelli Ward ??

      @kelliwardaz
      ·
      21h
      Where are @DougDucey & @GeneralBrnovich?

      They need to weigh in on this election mess! It is unacceptable that the AZSOS & Maricopa County election officials are slow walking the results. Why don’t they hold a press conference – Arizonans deserve to hear from them NOW!

    706. jason says:

      Any Dem reading this thread would just love it.

      As we can see, if this is a microcosm of conservative/R thought, and it is, we are in deep trouble.

      We are hopelessly divided, there is no unity, no common purpose, no agenda we can agree on. We can’t decide on what is important and what is not. We have irreconcilable differences on what is a winning coalition to win elections. We don’t agree on even the basic principles that should govern our approach to elections and governing. We are split on who which conservatives we hate rather than which liberals we want to replace.

      In a nutshell, we got nothing to compete with the Dems. They know what they want and how to get it. We are a disorganized rabble attacking the fortress while the Dems rain down boiling oil and arrows on us and slaughter the few that make it up the wall.

    707. jason says:

      Evidently CT-5 was decided by 0.5%.

      Bummer.

    708. Dylan says:

      720—GOP hasn’t been competitive in CT for 34 years (1988). And yet for 34 years, like in CA, they can’t figure out what it takes to win the GOP leaning congressional seat in a favorable environment.

      Also, has anyone asked themselves this existential question?: “What do we actually get from supporting the GOP?” I have a hard time answering that one. . . .

    709. DW says:

      Biden is probably glad his student loan forgiveness was thrown out, because he gets credit for trying, and now two entire generations of Americans will forever vote DEM trying to get this done as their most important issue over inflation and everything else.

    710. Dylan says:

      No more smashed watermelons. . . . .

    711. DW says:

      “What do we actually get from supporting the GOP?”

      How about for starters, the GOP will protect small children, instead of the Democrats who want to force them to learn smut in schools and have CRT crammed down their throats.

      And the GOP will protect children from Democrats who want to pressure boys into receiving castration and girls into receiving double-mastectomy.

    712. Bitterlaw says:

      RIP, Gallagher. I never laughed at your act but enough did that you made a living.

    713. WizardofCozz says:

      Marco Rubio
      @marcorubio

      US Senate candidate, FL
      The Senate GOP leadership vote next week should be postponed

      First we need to make sure that those who want to lead us are genuinely committed to fighting for the priorities & values of the working Americans (of every background) who gave us big wins in states like #Florida

    714. jason says:

      How is the Golden Calf going to get this guy’s support/vote?

      Or are we to believe the Golden Calf can win without people who think like him?

      Here is my take. The Golden Calf cannot let himself be defined as an establishment RINO as this guy is trying to do. Hint: you don’t do that by disparaging Trump and attacking his voters as white trash.

      Rick Stans:

      “Watching heads explode over Trump’s “DeSantimonious” comment is exactly what the RINO elite relishes! Sundance has spelled out Ron’s position very clearly over the past weeks and anyone with half a brain could see it! Ron is a tool being forged as the splitter to weaken Trump in his bid to win in ‘24.

      Moreso, the “god” man is what the RINO elite like Ryan and McCarthy hope will destroy the MAGA movement and restore the order of Kings & Queens in D.C. verses the serfs in fly-over country! The Coastals are becoming a bit uneasy hearing about Red Waves and MAGA movements! Time to crush these peasants once and for all!

      Enter “god” man! Smiling, snarky Ron the Trump slayer! The Rip Van Winkle of Mar-a-Lago post raid! Trump’s friendly shot across the bow is a wake-up call!

      No Ron, we won’t sit back and let you be another fraud, a fallen acorn from the dead Bush Oak that was fertilized with our hard-earned tax dollars for decades!

      Either we’re all in for MAGA (despite what Trump does) or we’ll all be learning how to say “can I trade my dollars for yuan” in Mandarin one day! Wake up foolish Ron supporters who have become offended by Trump! Haven’t you learned from your parents that “sticks and stones may break my bones…..”

      Trump is a gamer and his words were just a precursor to let Ron know that all the money and notoriety he will be promised for distancing himself from MAGA to “Save” America, is really nothing but fools gold in the end if MAGA goes the way of the Tea Party!”

    715. Tina says:

      Yes Rubio. Great job.

      A lack of r leadership hurt us.

    716. BayernFan says:

      Another one….

      Dem wins Oregon Governor race.

    717. jason says:

      It is great news if the remaining ballots are not Clark. Washoe is not leaning very D.

      “The Nevada Senate race has continued to tighten in the days since the Nov. 8 election, with Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) narrowing Republican Adam Laxalt’s lead late Thursday night.

      At the time of writing, the incumbent senator trails Laxalt by just under 9,000 votes, giving him just a 1-point lead over her at 49 percent to 48 percent with 10 percent of votes in the state that still need to be counted. The counties with the highest number of votes still outstanding are Republican-heavy Lincoln County and Democratic-leaning Washoe County.”

    718. VictrC says:

      Something I think that’s being overlooked here is the fact that if we had actually won more of these 50/50 races, we’d all be celebrating.

      We have closed the gap in these districts, now have to get over the hump.

      Another point – I wonder how the gerrymandering of a lot of districts also affected the 50/50 districts.

      At the end of the day, in the NBA, its winning the 50/50 balls that gets a team the victory. We didn’t win enough of those, and we need to do that by outhustling the opponent. We started by outvoting them, no we need to truly find a way to overcome the MAGA v everyone else infighting. There will always be disagreements, but we have to realize this is not a zero sum game. Everyone has to give some in order for the body to survive, flourish and win.

    719. jason says:

      Lincoln Co won’t help Laxalt much, very small, maybe Laxalt nets another 400 votes.

      Douglas and Carson City are strong for Laxalt and are also 90%, there are some votes there, maybe at least 1,000 net each for Laxalt.

      CCM is only ahead by 3 in Washoe, but of course the mail ins skew Dem by more than that.

      Laxalt surged at the end, even the late mail ins should reflect that.

    720. Gordon Allen says:

      1. Dylan
      The GOP won four straight Governor’ races after 1988,John Rowland 3 times, and Jodi Rell once.
      Rowland turned out to be a crook,and Rell a leftist. Goodbye Connecticut.
      The leaders you pickaxe a difference.
      See for instance Kim Strassels column on the WSJ opinion section
      PS Strassel strongly supports in general Trump policies,if not him.

    721. jason says:

      Everyone has to give some in order for the body to survive, flourish and win.”

      Too complicated. Get rid of Trump and anoint a Golden Calf.

      Fait accompli. Voilá!

    722. Bitterlaw says:

      VC- Didn’t you get the memo? This destructive civil war in the GOP is a … F it. I can’t pretend it is anything but absurd and the Dems are the ones who benefit from it.

    723. WizardofCozz says:

      #731\

      VictrC Great post, and I definitely think Gerrymandering is playing a major factor.

    724. Tina says:

      Washoe is essentially a wash.

    725. Tina says:

      Gosh bl is right. I may have to get a limoncello before noon.

    726. Bitterlaw says:

      Any Republican who wants to run for President in 2024 should do so. However, they should declare after the GA runoff. We need that seat and there should be no distractions from that goal.

    727. Gordon Allen says:

      If the GOP won the ” popular vote” Tuesday,as it appears, logically and numerically the GOP must have lost a great number of close races indeed.
      This would make those GCB polls accurate in fact nationally,and show the Democrats wereuch better at micro targeting.
      If that isn’t a leadership failure at the top of the pyramid what would be?

    728. Tina says:

      Rubios remarks are like an earthquake

      Great job. He should be a leader than can unite all factions.

    729. Gordon Allen says:

      Agree with Bitterlaw again!.
      This is becoming a habit.

    730. Tina says:

      avier Manjarres
      @JavManjarres
      ·
      16m
      BREAKING—@MarcoRubio Wants Senate Leadership Vote Postponed, Questions McConnell’s Commitment to America.
      Reported by @javmanjarres via @Floridianpress

      https://floridianpress.com/?p=38967

      #Florida #FlPol

    731. Dylan says:

      These politicians are ALL the most disgusting forms of life ever created. You don’t have leadership elections before the outcomes of the last race are even decided. How embarrassing is that going to be for McCarthy if the GOP fails to take the house 218-217. I’d now actually like to see it. . . . .out of touch douches.

    732. Bitterlaw says:

      Sorry, Gordon. It happens. We used to get along until I mentioned your white shoes and 4:30 dinner time.

    733. Tgca says:

      692.

      Vance squeaked by? Nearly 7 points is a squeaker? REALLY?

    734. WizardofCozz says:

      Natalie Allison
      @natalie_allison

      Lindsey Graham suggested on NRSC call yesterday that fraud in NV would be the only way GOP loses.

      “There is no mathematical way Laxalt loses,” Graham said. “If he does, then it’s a lie.”

    735. dylan says:

      I honestly want Graham primaried and gone in 2024. Enough.

    736. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Good news from Oregon:(H/T:RRH)

      “The Oregonian calls US House Dist. 5 for Lori Chavez-DeRemer.”

      https://twitter.com/OregonianPol/status/1591144120579674118

    737. Tgca says:

      Hurt challenges establishment blaming Trump arguing, we got saddled with establishment losers to begin with in AZ (McSally) and GA (Loeffler) so blame them for having a sitting Senator lose that should not have lost. That’s on the McLeadership.

      https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2022/11/10/charlie-hurt-establishment-republicans-are-wrong-to-blame-donald-trump-for-midterm-losses/

    738. Tgca says:

      749

      Dylan is a homophobic bigot! Trying to get rid of the GOP’s gay senator from SC.

      Why?

      Just like GWB hated black people, Dylan hates gay people. Typical Republican.

    739. dylan says:

      “Some of my best friends are gay . . . . .”

      I’ve just had enough of Tofu Lindsey.

    740. jason says:

      Am I missing something?

      Dustin and Paulina have been a pair since 2013 and have several kids.

    741. Tgca says:

      753

      You forgot:

      I love gay people.

      No one loves gay people more than I do.

      I am the gays biggest supporter.

    742. jason says:

      Lindsey Graham suggested on NRSC call yesterday that fraud in NV would be the only way GOP loses.

      “There is no mathematical way Laxalt loses,” Graham said. “If he does, then it’s a lie.”

      Does anyone really disagree with this?

    743. jason says:

      I am the gays biggest supporter.”

      Gayest post of the day.

    744. jason says:

      VC- Didn’t you get the memo? This destructive civil war in the GOP is a … F it. I can’t pretend it is anything but absurd and the Dems are the ones who benefit from it.”

      Zzzzz…

      I already made that point in #719.

    745. dylan says:

      755–I did forget to add that I am going to see Elton next week at Dodger Stadium for his last US show on the Farewell Yellowbrick Road tour. . .good enough?

    746. Tgca says:

      754

      They were living in sin with their bastard children. Now they’re making it legal. Kids are no longer Bastards. Yay!

      At least, that’s how I’m told it works.

      …and for the record, I have nothing against Bastards.

      I love bastards!

      I have bastard friends.

      No one loves bastards more than I do.

      I am the bastards biggest supporter.

    747. jason says:

      I do know this.

      Disparaging Trump and anointing a Golden Calf will not help the GOP.

      If Rs want to survive and win, they are going to have to think up something better than that.

    748. jason says:

      Kids are no longer Bastards. Yay!”

      You can debastardize yourself retroactively?

      Who knew?

    749. jason says:

      WTF is Elton?

    750. Tgca says:

      759

      Good enough…as long as you wear a colorful scarf and the big rimmed glasses – white rimmed preferably but that may be a little racist.

    751. Waingro says:

      Kari Lake
      @KariLake

      Governor candidate, AZ
      BOMBSHELL NEWS
      STAY TUNED ?
      2:31 PM · Nov 11, 2022
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    752. jason says:

      Heck of a “stronghold” there, MSM…

      “Ballots in other counties still need to be counted, including in Pueblo County, according to both campaigns. The area is a Democratic stronghold that has opted for Frisch over Boebert in the race by a margin of 54 percent to 46 percent.”

    753. Tgca says:

      761

      Agreed!

      If DeSanctimonius’ supporters try to disparage Trump, good luck getting Trump supporters.

      It is IMPOSSIBLE for Ronaldo to win without MAGA! Absolutely IMPOSSIBLE!

      Would be like the Dems trying to win without the AA majority.

    754. jason says:

      Btw, I invented “debastardize”

      GFYs.

    755. jason says:

      It is IMPOSSIBLE for Ronaldo to win without MAGA! Absolutely IMPOSSIBLE!”

      Are you sure?

      I hear he makes up for them by attracting wine sipping white suburban women.

      These women will be completely “white trash” free and decontaminated except for an occasional deliveryman, pool cleaner or landscaper.

    756. Skippy says:

      American Firearms Association has now dumped Trump in favor of Florida’s Governor.

      Jason & Tcga,

      Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya on the way out of GOP.

      The exit signs are nicely lit for you so you should no problem finding your way out.

    757. Waingro says:

      “If DeSanctimonius’ supporters try to disparage Trump, good luck getting Trump supporters.”

      Yet here you are “disparaging” DeSantis in trying to make this point, LOL. I love this circular logic.

    758. Phil says:

      The sad thing is we are looking at really vicious civil war for the Republican nomination. Can only benefit Democrats. If Trump is nominated a significant portion of the R establishment types won’t lift a finger for him in the general. If Trump is denied the nomination by the establishment types a significant number of vital working-class voters will take a walk during the GE.

    759. Tina says:

      The civil war is promoted by drats rinos and msm

    760. Waingro says:

      #772, I mean didn’t we have that “civil war” back in 2016? Seems like most “R establishment types” ended up supporting Trump in the end as I recall.

    761. Tina says:

      Jack Posobiec ??

      @JackPosobiec
      ·
      1h
      BREAKING: Senators Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, Rick Scott circulate letter calling for Senate GOP leadership election to be postponed

    762. Waingro says:

      #773, yes, we are seeing that now, Tina. The scumbag Lincoln Project types are urging for DeSantis to “fight back” against Trump’s attacks.

      But fortunately, DeSantis is much smarter than that and is not taking the bait.

    763. Tina says:

      Pedo project has abusers on every level.

      Eddie Scarry

      @eScarry
      ·
      1h
      Oh wow, the wife of Lincoln Project leader Steve Schmidt @SteveSchmidtSES requested a RESTRAINING ORDER against her husband as they go through divorce. I wonder what threats he might have made?? https://dailycaller.com/2022/11/11/steve-schmidt-restraining-order-wife-utah/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking&pnespid=veJgGT5JM7tKwKfDrzWqCpfR5Ej3U8ptffPsmuhnqhxmeDarkBJ9pdp_ksArTGS20v9et0Hdkw

    764. Cash Cow TM says:

      jason says:

      “Sorry Cow, you didn’t vote for Trump in 2016 (I didn’t either) but what is your excuse for 2020 when you knew Trump was doing a good job as President and you knew Biden would be a disaster.

      So you always had and still have TDS so you have zero credibility.

      Trump was not on the ballot, and nobody came out to vote against Trump. They voted on the issues and the candidates and we got what we got.

      Nothing to do with Trump.”
      ___________________________________________

      jason,

      True that Walt did not support or vote for Trump in 2016 and 2020 WV primary or GE. If my one vote would have caused his victory in WV (which Trump won in a lopsided landslide in all 4 elections), I would have held my nose and voted for Trump.

      Walt and Cow were BOTH delighted at MANY of the good things Trump did during his administration (including SCOTUS picks) and give him kudos for that. Did not like Trump’s penchant for throwing hand grenades at fellow Rs even while he was president.

      ***************************************

      But whether you admit it or not
      TRUMP WAS ON THE BALLOT NOT ONLY IN 2016 AND 2020 BUT (in the SOME fairly significant % of voters eyes and minds) IN 2018 AND 2022 AS WELL.
      ——————————————–
      Now, I ask you to DENY that Trump:

      –narrowly won a close election in 2016 against a D candidate that had HUGE NEGATIVES just as high or HIGHER than Trump.

      –In 2018 when Trump was president, the Rs lost big time in 2018.

      –In 2020 Trump was defeated narrowly.

      –In 2022, Trump was heavily engaged in the election process (primaries and GEs) for the R candidates.

      –the Ds would rather run in 2022 and in 2024 about issues related to Trump than about the success of their own D policies.

      –Trump wants to run again in 2024.

      ****************************************

      IN 2018, 2020, AND 2022 DONALD TRUMP has been the biggest unifier and motivator for the DEMS and has played SOME ROLE in D election successes!
      *********************************************
      Do you consider the FEAR factor AT ALL (which I described above in this thread) that actually moves SOME % of the GE voters to go with the D candidate instead of R in 2018, 2020, 2022?

      Is it 5% of the right leaning D voters, Indys, even registered Rs?

      could it be higher?–7%? 10%? Higher?

      Let’s LOWBALL and suppose it is 5%.
      ***************************************
      Then instead of LOSING 30 close House seats and 4 Senate seats this week by 47 to 52% (or closer) the Rs may have WON them by 52 to 47% (or 51-49% or 50.1 to 49.9%.

      TO ALL OF YOU WHO SAY THERE WAS NO NEGATIVE TRUMP FACTOR IN 2018, 2020, 2022 then you are in denial of the FACTS.
      ***************************************
      For R candidates to be pegged as:
      –“election deniers”
      –Trump “endorsed” candidates
      –Jan. 6 insurrection “deniers”
      –“defenders” of Trump in Mary Largo and in all sorts of court cases
      –supporters of various “conspiracy theories” repeated by Trump or other people who also happen to support Trump

      then they are painted with a big brush to be “Trump people” and then those candidates will have at least SOME % of the voters who dislike/distrust Trump and who are turned off by Trump’s rude and questionable behavior will have Trump negatives transferred over to them in SOME % of the voters’ eyes.

      I support common sense conservative values, policies candidates and laws. Always have.

      The common sense conservative movement is far BIGGER than one person (Trump) IMO (one (Trump) who takes actions to try to destroy any other R who wants to be 2024 R presidential candidate or disagrees with him on ANY topic).

      If Trump suddenly died or vanished, are the Rs who favor things I favor DOOMED? I think not.

      There are other good R potential candidates who can be the standard bearer for common sense conservative values and policies other than Trump
      WHO DO NOT HAVE THE HUGE NEGATIVES THAT TRUMP HAS THE PEELS VOTES AWAY.

      Trump has higher NEGATIVES than any other R candidate except probably Richard Nixon.

      In 1974, 1976, 1978, 1980 etc. did NOT run on defense of Nixon. Nixon did NOT get heavily involved in R primaries and GEs during those years. NOBODY in the R party wanted to “put Nixon back in the White House”.

      The Rs licked their wounds (brought top them by HIGH NEGATIVES Nixon) and moved on. And became successful again in the 1980s and in varying degrees going forward as a post Nixon
      R party.

    765. VictrC says:

      I do agree that the “Civil War” only benefits the Dems/Socialists/Coalition of the weak.

      Unfortunately, we can’t win without any part of our coalition. Bringing back “Suburban Moms” and ejecting MAGA blue collar workers is a losing solution.

      Trying to win with MAGA blue collar w/out the country club R’s is a losing solution now (it wasn’t in 2016, but demographics are changing ever more).

      The biggest problem we have faced is the exodus of liberal Californians, taking their woke, tax first, white guilt, victim mentality with them to other states. It started in the late 80’s with WA and OR, spread to CO, NV, now AZ and NM. That alone cost us 53 electoral votes, which were more than enough to counter MI, WI and PA.

      So…how do we not trash each other, realize were better off together than apart, and come together for the greater good of our children.

      There is where I think we have find someone who can focus us on the above. I see that all over the country we are winning our schools back by finally taking School Board seats seriously. When we can stop the indoctrination and control what our kids are learning (back to reading, writing and math), we will change the trajectory of our future.

      Let’s find something we all agree on, like the future of our kids, and start messaging from that. Its a winning one apparantly.

      A start anyway

    766. jason says:

      Jason & Tcga,

      Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya on the way out of GOP.

      The exit signs are nicely lit for you so you should no problem finding your way out.”

      LOL

      I left the R party in 2016, so GFY.

      But your post is typical of the thinking that will keep the GOP in permanent minority status.

    767. Cash Cow TM says:

      wOW.
      Cow got long there…

      And another thing…

      Cow posted recently about the current electoral map and how it looks going forward in 2024.

      There are A LOT OF D presidential election ECV BAKED IN and will not change in the foreseeable future. (HA, CA, OR. WA, NM, CO, MN, IL, ALL OF NEW ENGLAND, NY, PA, NJ, MD, DE, DC, and VA most likely–VA went D in 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 (54+% for D and not for Trump).

      With TRUMP as the R candidate in 2024, Which of those states listed above (and also AZ and NV and probably MI) will Trump CARRY in 2024?

      Especially with D strategy to ramp up the
      FEAR FACTOR in 2024 if Trump is the R candidate?

    768. jason says:

      But whether you admit it or not
      TRUMP WAS ON THE BALLOT NOT ONLY IN 2016 AND 2020 ”

      When you start a long diatribe with a blatant lie it is hard to take the rest seriously.

      Trump was NOT on the ballot in 2018 and 2022.

      He endorsed some 300 candidates, most of which won, held a few rallies, but he was hardly the focus in the election or in any state in particular.

      The election was a referendum on Biden and inflation and abortion and crime, NOTHING to do with Trump.

      “then they are painted with a big brush to be “Trump people” and then those candidates will have at least SOME % of the voters who dislike/distrust Trump and who are turned off by Trump’s rude and questionable behavior will have Trump negatives transferred over to them in SOME % of the voters’ eyes.”

      This is convoluted garbage with no basis in fact.

      Now, I ask you to DENY that Trump:

      –narrowly won a close election in 2016 against a D candidate that had HUGE NEGATIVES just as high or HIGHER than Trump.

      So what? BFD.

      –In 2018 when Trump was president, the Rs lost big time in 2018.

      As the party in power usually does.

      –In 2020 Trump was defeated narrowly.

      Whatever. I think it was stolen. You think it was narrow.

      –In 2022, Trump was heavily engaged in the election process (primaries and GEs) for the R candidates.

      Nah, he was engaged in isolated races.

      –the Ds would rather run in 2022 and in 2024 about issues related to Trump than about the success of their own D policies.

      The Dems ran on more handouts and more freebies and debt forgiveness and on abortion.

      –Trump wants to run again in 2024.

      So what?

    769. jason says:

      FEAR FACTOR ”

      LOL

      What fear factor exactly?

      Fear of energy independence? Low inflation? Lower taxes? Border security? Strong military? Less wokism? Parental control?

      Which one are you scared of, Cow?

    770. jason says:

      With TRUMP as the R candidate in 2024, Which of those states listed above (and also AZ and NV and probably MI) will Trump CARRY in 2024?”

      I don’t know.

      How many of them did Bob Dole, John Mcain, and Mitt Romney carry?

      Did any of them carry OH, WI, PA, or MI?

      How many would the Golden Calf carry?

    771. jason says:

      Then instead of LOSING 30 close House seats and 4 Senate seats this week by 47 to 52% (or closer) the Rs may have WON them by 52 to 47% (or 51-49% or 50.1 to 49.9%.

      TO ALL OF YOU WHO SAY THERE WAS NO NEGATIVE TRUMP FACTOR IN 2018, 2020, 2022 then you are in denial of the FACTS.”

      I like the way Cow makes up his own “FACTS” with completely made up garbage.

    772. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason is correct that Trump did not run for office in 2022. However, Trump featured prominently in many Democrat ads in many races against Republicans. Democrats made certain that Republicans had 2 running mates in many races -Trump and abortion.

    773. BayernFan says:

      Per NBC….

      211-200 now.

    774. Cash Cow TM says:

      jason,

      LOL.

      I do not denigrate you (or others here) and call you names because you and I disagree on this. I appreciate everyone can have different opinions.

      But you are delusional* and deny facts.
      (*fail to accept reality)
      on these issue.

      Go ahead and stick with having Trump in 2024 and if he wins the presidency in 2024 I will happily meet you geographically halfway (Gettysburg? Chambersburg?) and buy you (and Lupita) dinner.

      If Trump runs and does NOT win, then we can meet and you can buy me (and Walt) dinner.

      [Maybe we can entice Bitter to drive out to join us if he is not traveling and if it is on a weekend.]

      Fair enough?

      *****************************

      Also, anxiously awaiting your ECV path to victory for Trump in 2024 and see what states he peels away from the Ds.

      Good Luck!
      _________________________________________
      LOL!

    775. DW says:

      I have largely stayed out of the debate for the GOP POTUS nomination for 2024.

      Its because I honestly don’t know what is best. The nomination process starts in 13.5 months. That’s a long time and a lot can happen.

      I do like DeSantis. I do like some aspects of Trump. I don’t like civil wars and GOP candidates who needlessly trigger them.

      But I am withholding speculation at this time. I don’t know the best way forward, much like Victr said.

    776. Cash Cow TM says:

      “FEAR FACTOR ”
      jason says:

      “LOL

      What fear factor exactly?

      Fear of energy independence? Low inflation? Lower taxes? Border security? Strong military? Less wokism? Parental control?

      Which one are you scared of, Cow?”
      ****************************************
      LOL
      As you should know, NONE of those.
      Refer back to previous Cow posts about the FAR FACTOR the Dems gin up about Trump and Trump supported and endorsed candidates.
      ###############################################

    777. Dylan says:

      Cash has the best post of recent–EC analysis on why it is so damn hard to win the EC as a republican. I honestly do not have a pliable enough brain to contemplate a scenario wherein the GOP can carry the Upper midwest and Mid-Atlantic states to win the election. The Bush EC victory states of 2004 are so not happening. . . .(CO, AZ, NM, NV)

    778. Tina says:

      he Associated Press named Eli Crane, Trump-backed Republican congressional candidate, as the victor in the race to represent Arizona’s 2nd Congressional District, defeating three-term Democrat representative Tom O’Halleran.

      Before entering into the political scene, O’Halleran joined the Chicago Police Department as one of the youngest detectives in the city’s history. O’Halleran initially served as a Republican congressman in the Arizona House of Representatives from 2001 to 2006 and in the Arizona State Senate between 2006 and 2009, before abandoning the party in 2014 and obtaining his current position as a Democrat, a seat he has held since 2016.

    779. jason says:

      Heh, Rick Wilson wants to jump on the Golden Calf’s bandwagon, Stephen Miller not having it

      Rick Wilson
      @TheRickWilson
      ·
      19h
      Ron DeSantis is the leading Never Trump candidate in the nation.
      12:01 AM · Nov 11, 2022

      Stephen L. Miller
      @redsteeze
      Ha ha.. just LMFAO you’re not getting back through the door. You’re gargling Al Sharpton’s balls.

    780. jason says:

      Go ahead and stick with having Trump in 2024 and if he wins the presidency in 2024 I will happily meet you geographically halfway (Gettysburg? Chambersburg?) and buy you (and Lupita) dinner.”

      Sorry, you will need someone else to make that bet.

      I am on record as saying I prefer to have the Golden Calf as the nominee in 2024.

      Not because I think he would have a better EV path that Trump, there is ZERO evidence he does, but because Trump cannot be the face of the party going forward, he is too old to be the future of the party.

      Btw, Trump won PA, WI and MI.

      Tell me which of those you are sure the Golden Calf WILL win? I want to have it on record.

    781. Cash Cow TM says:

      jason says:

      [Cow says:]
      “Then instead of LOSING 30 close House seats and 4 Senate seats this week by 47 to 52% (or closer) the Rs may have WON them by 52 to 47% (or 51-49% or 50.1 to 49.9%.

      TO ALL OF YOU WHO SAY THERE WAS NO NEGATIVE TRUMP FACTOR IN 2018, 2020, 2022 then you are in denial of the FACTS.”

      then jason says:
      “I like the way Cow makes up his own “FACTS” with completely made up garbage.”
      ******************************************
      LOL

      OK. To end the argument/disagreement with you, I
      will agree with YOUR apparent position:

      “ABSOLUTELY NO VOTER IN ANY STATE IN AMERICA WHO VOTED FOR A D CANDIDATE (instead of an R candidate) (IN ANY CLOSE RACE) BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TRUMP, TRUMP NEGATIVES, TRUMP ENDORSEMENTS, TRUMP CAMPAIGNING FOR CERTAIN R CANDIDATES, TRUMP TWEETS, ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH JAN. 6, ANYTHING ASSOICATED WITH JAN. 6 HEARINGS, OR “ELECTION DENIERS/STOLEN ELECTION CLAIMS (true or not), “CONSPIRACY THEORIES”, COURT CASES INVOLVING TRUMP, MARY LARGO CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT RAID, (FALSE) CLAIMS THAT ‘IF YOU VOTE FOR Rs THE THAT IS A THREAT TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, OR ANY OTHER FACTORS RELATED TO TRUMP.”

      I also will tell you I accept your apparent position that:

      “IN EVERY CASE, IN EVERY RACE–FOR HOUSE, SENATE AND GOVERNOR–THAT EVERY R CANDIDATE WHO LOST THEIR RACE DID SO BECAUSE OF MISTAKES THEY MADE AND OTHERS MADE, BUT THAT IN NO SINGLE CASE DID ANY VOTER NOT VOTE FOR THESE LOSING R CANDIDATES DUE TO ANYTHING RELATED TO TRUMP AND TRUMP NEGATIVES.”

      **********************************************
      Peace, brother.

      LOL

    782. Tgca says:

      778

      Trump won a narrow election in 2016?

      GWB also won a narrow election against a flawed candidate too. In 2000, he won by 1 EV in the EC. In 2004, he won by 16 EV in EC against another flawed candidate.

      Trump won EC with 304 EV.

      A win is a win.

      GWB would have lost big time in 2016 as the electorate has changed BIGLY the last decade.

    783. Bitterlaw says:

      The argument that we should nominate any particular candidate because only they can win a certain state ignores a pesky fact – states change. California used to be a reliable Red state in Presidential elections and now it is considered forever Blue. In 1988, GHWB won 40 states. In 1992, he…did not.

      As for 2024 we know absolutely….nothing. If we go back to the HHR Annals, how many posts in November 2014 said that in order to win in 2016, the GOP had to nominate…Donald Trump? The billionaire Democrat? I suspect none were that prescient.

    784. Tina says:

      David Marcus

      @BlueBoxDave
      ·
      8m
      On Twitter Donald Trump is finished and Mitch McConnell is the big winner today.

      In reality the 3rd most powerful House Republican endorsed Trump today and Rubio and Cruz shived McConnell.

    785. jason says:

      owever, Trump featured prominently in many Democrat ads in many races against Republicans. Democrats made certain that Republicans had 2 running mates in many races -Trump and abortion.”

      Where? What races? Sounds like a crock of crap.

      I did not see one Shapiro or Fetterman ad with Trump in it… zero, let alone from local candidates.

      I saw ads from all over the country that were purported to be “good ads”, not one featured Trump.

      You really want to make the case Dems ran as many ads with Trump as they did for abortion?

      Tell you what, I don’t know if that is true or not, but I am willing to bet they didn’t.

      $500 for dogs in York or $500 for your charity.

      Deal?

    786. Tina says:

      I read that trump was seldom mentioned in the Drat ads.

      I am not sure Bl is accurate here.

    787. Tina says:

      I did see ads whereby two drats were running as trump supporters.

      One of them was the guy that lost in Ohio.

    788. Tgca says:

      We are not attacking DeSanctimonius. I voted for him.

      I’m trying to get you to see you’re emotional outbursts with blaming Trump and latching onto Ronaldo is not the solution.

      You’re putting your faith in DeSanctimonius the same way peeps did with Lil’ Marco. He became a country club Republican and lost a great deal of his support nationally and never recovered from that. Maybe with his big recent Senate win in Floreedah, he can reclaim that support.

      That is my concern with Ronaldo. He is by nature more Country Club than MAGA.

      He has done great mocking the wokesters but he has done NOTHING here in Floreedah that will inspire working class people in states like MI, PA, and WI. Maybe he will pivot and start to reach out to them but as of now, it is highly unlikely DeSanctimonius can win any of those states.

    789. jason says:

      Now Cow had delved completely into Dem talking points.

      CLAIMS THAT ‘IF YOU VOTE FOR Rs THE THAT IS A THREAT TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY,

      This is Trump’s fault? Really?

      Yes, “threat to democracy” was an issue, but it mainly dealt with “voter suppression” and “election denial”.

      If you believe in voter ID and think there was fraud in 2020, it makes you a threat to democracy and a fascist.

      It is sad that Cow actually believes this garbage.

    790. Cash Cow TM says:

      jason says:

      “Btw, Trump won PA, WI and MI.

      Tell me which of those you are sure the Golden Calf WILL win? I want to have it on record.”
      _______________________________________________

      Yes Trump did in 2016!

      But it is a fact he did not carry those 3 in 2020.

      And in all 3 of those the Rs got hammered in 2022.

      I WILL say on the record that I do not think that if Trump is the candidate in 2024 that he will win WI, MI or PA.
      ———————————
      I do not know which of those states Desantis might carry. I have said previously that whoever the R candidate is in 2024 will have a tough ECV road.

      I AM fairly certain that regarding PA, if Trump did not carry it in 2020, and that the majority of voters there just elected Fetterman to the Senate, I think the probability that Trump will carry PA in 2024 is very low. I think Desantis would have a better probability of winning there. Not great Not a lot to win for Desantis, but better chance than Trump.

      Same with WI and MI.

      Why?
      Because Desantis has less DEEP NEGATIVITY BAGGAGE (described at length by Cow over the last several days here) than does Trump.
      (I know, you think there is 0 negative baggage for Trump…)

      I feel the same with WI and MI.
      My opinion.

      You have your opinion, I have mine.

    791. VictrC says:

      Can we pivot to how on earth we get to 218.

      I keep looking at the map and were counting heavily on CA republicans to win (or hold on), when we know counting will go on until they find enough votes to win.

      Outside of CA, what districts are we winning that are till out:

      Boebert – win = 212
      NY-22 – probably win = 213
      AZ-6 – probably win = 214
      CA – 3 = hold on = 215
      CA – 22 = maybe hold on = 216
      CA – 27 = maybe hold on = 217

      what about the rest of the CA races. What about…can you beleive this, Alaska (why did Palin have to run…yes, I said that)

      I can’t believe were the 11th and still gnashing teeth about the House when we all thought it would be an easy victory

    792. Bitterlaw says:

      I saw ads in Vegas. Do you have an address where I can send the mail ads? You honestly don’t believe Democrats did not mention Trump? Fetterman certainly did in his only debate.

    793. jason says:

      Tina says:
      November 11, 2022 at 4:04 pm

      I read that trump was seldom mentioned in the Drat ads.

      I am not sure Bl is accurate here.”

      Shhhhh… the dogs are already drooling.

    794. Cash Cow TM says:

      Peace and out.

      Walt needs me to help him do chores.

      Everybody have a great weekend.

    795. Cash Cow TM says:

      P.S.

      Walt and his Missus are going out to dinner later this evening with friends.

      I hope Walt takes me along this time.
      Even if they ARE going to a steak house.

      I am sure there be something on the menu for me.

    796. jason says:

      here I can send the mail ads?”

      LOL

      Mail ads? Zzzzz…..

      Mail and online ads are produced by the millions on all sorts of topics.

      Show me one candidates expenditure with as much money spent on Trump as on abortion. ONE.

    797. Tgca says:

      798

      I agree in general but the flaw in your argument, and it’s a BIGLY flaw, is the demographics don’t usually change in a year or two enough to impact elections.

      PA now looks more Dem then it was in 2016 but the truth is it probably is not, it’s just that a part of the constituency came out for Trump but will probably go back to not voting for GOP candidates.

    798. Bitterlaw says:

      Tell the dogs to F off. By the way, where was that HUGE vote for Mastriano in the red counties? He barely carried Lancaster county.

    799. jason says:

      You honestly don’t believe Democrats did not mention Trump?”

      MAJOR GOAL POST MOVING ALERT.

      We went “from Democrats made certain that Republicans had 2 running mates in many races -Trump and abortion” to “there were mail ads mentioning Trump”

      You gotta love HHR.

    800. Tgca says:

      813

      Ads? Silly.

      Dems invoked Trump in Jersey too. What does that mean?

      Trump and ABORTION did not make the difference in GOP areas.

      As I stated earlier:

      The lefties won mainly because they bribed two large constituencies and got them by a 2/3+ margin.

      They bought the hopes of the “indoctrinated yoots” with more wokeism and debt cancellation.

      They bought the “single women who just want to spread their legs without any accountability” by promising them more benefits rewarding poverty and free coupons to murder babies.

    801. Tina says:

      I don’t see it in every race, Bl.

      Some perhaps.

      But he was not the focus mainly.

      And in several instances, the drats acted like trump was their bff.

      There is one Drat that went pro border enforcement citing trump.

    802. Country Dick Montana says:

      Come on people. The voters want pain. That is what they asked for. Of course it is conservatives who will suffer first, but all authoritarian/ one party regimes eventually eat their own.

      I am going to lay low and try to adapt to the coming changes.

    803. Tina says:

      Mitchie thought he would win the senate by default.

      https://amac.us/the-absurdity-of-the-blame-trump-campaign/

    804. Tgca says:

      I think to settle this argument, we need to do a district by district analysis to see who won and by how much and compare it to the local demographics.

      This will tell a better story than:

      1. MSM trying to deflect from Biden’s record and spin he won the midterms when he’s about to lose the House and possibly the Senate.

      2. The Republicans who got duped by pollsters they were going to win BIGLY and can’t accept much of this was put in the sky because the GOP already had won back in 2020 a good portion of districts more aligned to their politics.

    805. Tina says:

      Ted Cruz

      @tedcruz
      ·
      45m
      It makes no sense for Senate to have leadership elections before GA runoff.

      We don’t yet know whether we’ll have a majority & Herschel Walker deserves a say in our leadership.

      Critically, we need to hear a specific plan for the next 2 yrs from any candidate for leadership.

    806. Walt says:

      I know I have not posted here for a while, but I do read HHR.

      Cow is taking out bags of trash right now.

      I want to commend Cow for the forthright way she has conducted herself here in her posts and encourage Cow’s example to be followed by others.

      ******************************
      Stop the personal attacks on fellow HHR posters (except Robbie and other trolls).
      Stop the name calling.
      Stop twisting the words of other posters to say something that they really did not say.
      All that does is make you look foolish.

      Realize who your real enemy is and act accordingly.

      *******************************
      Carry on.

      GFY.

      [I have the right to say this, because I have privileges due to my age. (so GFY twice)].

    807. Walt says:

      Oh, and one more thing.
      I heard it on the radio.
      ______________________________________
      Biden called Rep. McCarthy today and said he is ready and willing to work with the R House majority.

      But anything having to do with gas pipelines, war on fossil fuels, other efforts to combat global warming, the southern border and a host of other issues are OFF THE TABLE AND HE WON’T DISCUSS THEM or change any of those policies.

      LOL!

    808. Tgca says:

      819. CDM

      Agreed!

      If crime skyrockets in cities, then the stoopid people who complain about it but continue to vote for politicians that embrace criminals’ rights can feel the pain and will get no sympathy from me.

      So the next time some single woman complains she was carjacked, mugged, or raped, my 1st thoughts will be, who did you vote for?

      Same with the indoctrinated yoots. Let them reflect on their choices and pay the consequences.

    809. Tgca says:

      822

      You may not like Ted Cruz but he is one smart guy.

      I love how he phrased Herschel deserves a vote in the leadership.

      Is Mitchie going to deny a black man from GA his right to a vote?

      Where is Stacey Abrams on this?

    810. jason says:

      Tell the dogs to F off. By the way, where was that HUGE vote for Mastriano in the red counties?”

      It was there, that is how he got to 43% of the vote. He won Schuykill by 22. Northumberland by 21. Lebanon by 15. Franklin, Fulton, Adams, Bedford, Somerset the whole southern PA counties by 30-50 points. He won the big suburban counties around Pittsburgh like Butler, Westmoreland, andWashington. But he only won York by 9. Lancaster by 2.

      However, he underperformed even Oz in the suburbs. He lost Montco by 30. Delco by 37. He even lost Berks by 4.

      The theory that maybe there wouldn’t be that much ticket splitting was wrong. Oz got 220k votes more than Mastriano.

    811. Tgca says:

      Like it or not, I think many in the GOP senate are smart enough to not blame Trump without risk of losing his followers, especially since there is NADA to blame Trump for here.

      The fact that a number of senators are openly challenging Mitchie is not a good sign for him. I’m not saying he will lose his leadership but it shows people are now willing to openly complain or show their frustration with him. It weakens his control over members.

      …and that’s how it started for the fat skank Liz Cheney too.

    812. Country Dick Montana says:

      If it looks as if McConnell will not be majority leader (assuming that the GOP gets 51) Collins and Murkowski will threaten to go independent and caucus with Democrats.

    813. jason says:

      PA now looks more Dem then it was in 2016 but the truth is it probably is not, it’s just that a part of the constituency came out for Trump but will probably go back to not voting for GOP candidates.”

      Yes, but they will automatically come back now and vote for the Golden Calf.

      I read it here in HHR.

    814. jason says:

      Which TDS moron will be the first to call Elise Stephanik (R-NY no.3 in R leadership) white trash.

      Come on, we know you want to.

      “Inn statements to the New York Times and Breitbart News, the No. 3 House Republican said she is “proud” to endorse Trump for 2024 and that it is “very clear” he is still the leader of the Republican Party. Trump is widely expected to announce another run for president on Tuesday, Nov. 15, though some of his top advisers are cautioning him to delay a campaign launch because of the disappointing midterm election results and failure of Trump-endorsed candidates to win key races.

      “Republican voters determine who is the leader of the Republican Party and it’s very clear President Trump is the leader of the Republican party. What the media fails to report is that we just won the midterms and flipped the House,” Stefanik told Breitbart News in a statement.

      “I am proud to endorse Donald J. Trump for President in 2024. I fully support him running again. Under his presidency, America was strong at home and abroad, our economy was red hot, our border was secure, our neighborhoods were safe, our law enforcement was respected, and our enemies feared us,” Stefanik told Breitbart News.

      She continued, “We cannot afford another four years of Joe Biden’s failed policies that have led to the inflation crisis, border crisis, and crime crisis. It is time for Republicans to unite around the most popular Republican in America, who has a proven track record of conservative governance. Poll after poll shows that President Trump would defeat any Republican challenger by massive margins, and would beat Joe Biden if the election were held today. President Trump has always put America First, and I look forward to supporting him so we can save America.”

    815. jason says:

      You TDS morons that are advocating for civil war in R party should get your wish.

      Let’s see if it is as good for the party as you think it is.

    816. Tgca says:

      829. CDM

      Fine! …and it will end their political careers and good luck to them in 2024 for senate assignments when all 10 GOP senators up in 2024 are from 10 very safe GOP states and about 7 or 8 of the 22 Dems up are in purple or red states.

      They would be back in the minority VERY quickly. Not to mention be one the public scourge in their districts.

    817. Country Dick Montana says:

      Collins is popular in Maine, and besides she is getting a little long in the tooth. Probably her last term anyway. Murk will have just won 6 years to continue the family grift. They don’t care.

    818. Tgca says:

      Ok. I’m taking a break.

      I suggest all you folks stressed out because you got duped by pollsters and thought you’d win BIGLY instead of a narrow win just go and drink some oolong tea. It will help destress you.

      …or you could go to Urgent Care and get a prescription for depression.

    819. Meldrim says:

      “Country Dick Montana says:
      November 10, 2022 at 7:50 pm
      Meldrin is is R 54 minus D 46 is 8.

      If it is D 48 then it would be R 52.

      They should add up to 100 correct?”
      ________________

      No, CDM, you still don’t get it. You’re like Daniel Stern in City Slickers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQGgaI-BcI4

      Let me explain again:

      When a district is rated R+6, it does not mean that there are 6% more registered Republicans than Registered Democrats. It means that the district votes 6 points more Republican (based on the share of the two-party vote, leaving third-party candidates out of the denominator) than the national average during the past two presidential elections, although some analysts also include other elections as well. Simply stated, R+6 means that the Republican candidate got 6% more of the two-party vote in the district than he got nationally.

      For example, looking at the 2020 presidential election, Trump received 54.2% of the two-party vote in the redrawn CO-03 (he got 52.9% and Biden got 44.7%), while, nationally, Trump got 47.7% of the two-party vote (he got 46.8% while Biden got 51.3%). If we only looked at the 2020 presidential election for the district rating, we would say that the CO-03 was R+6.5, since 54.2 minus 47.7 = 6.5.

      Looking at it another way, if Trump had tied Hillary and Biden in the national popular vote in 2016 and 2020, then an R+6 district would be a 56R-44D district (a 12% victory margin). But since the two-party presidential vote in those two elections went 52 Democrat and 48 Trump, then R+6 means that the district is 54 R and 46 D (given that 48+6=54). Again, Trump got 54% of the two-party vote in that district, which was 6% higher than the 48% of the two-party vote that he got nationally. That a 54-46 race would give Trump an 8% *margin* in the district has nothing to do with the R+__ or D+__ rating.

      Capisce?

      As Bruno Kirby would say, the cows know what R+6 means by now. (I’m not referring to Cash Cow here, since she has known what that means since she started helping Walt in his state house campaigns.)

    820. Tgca says:

      They will care when they’re ostracized at home and in DC.

      Look how far Romney fell. He’s the butt of jokes. These things matter to these egomaniacs.

      Murk would bring shame and embarrassment to her family in AK in a BIGLY way.

    821. Cash Cow TM says:

      jason says:

      “Now Cow had delved completely into Dem talking points.

      CLAIMS THAT ‘IF YOU VOTE FOR Rs THE THAT IS A THREAT TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY,

      This is Trump’s fault? Really?

      Yes, “threat to democracy” was an issue, but it mainly dealt with “voter suppression” and “election denial”.

      If you believe in voter ID and think there was fraud in 2020, it makes you a threat to democracy and a fascist.

      It is sad that Cow actually believes this garbage.”
      ______________________________________________
      Cow believes in need for voter ID.

      Cow believes there was considerable voter fraud in key states in 2020.

      Cow abhors the opening the door to fraud/irregularities with VMB ballots.

      Cow is furious about states mailing out millions of mail in votes in state after state.

      Cow is upset that some stat SOSs and courts took action to IGORE state laws and greatly expand no excuse VBM.

      Cow STILL thinks that there were enough irregularities, fraud, SOSs and court interference concerning VMB and mail in ballots and NOT verifying signatures to very possibly OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 ELECTION.

      Cow believes that the DEMS–not the Rs–are the REAL and true “THREAT TO DEMOCRACY”.

      Cow believes that the DEMS ginned up TRUMP to be the bogeyman and wrongly say he and all Rs supporting or endorsed by Trump are “Threat to Democracy” BECAUSE it could sway SOME SLICE OF VOTERS in 2022 to vote for Ds instead of Rs.

      Cow does not “ascribe to” ANY D talking points and think they are all factually wrong.

      Cow would have rather had Trump win in 2020 rather that the idiot, braindead Biden.

      Cow believes the Dems wrongly paint Trump and all Rs (except Liz Cheney) as evil.

      Cow thinks that the D strategy to paint all R candidates with the same negatives they paint onto trump is far from truthful, they know that, but do that because IT WORKS!

      the DEMS think “If you believe in voter ID and think there was fraud in 2020, it makes you a threat to democracy and a fascist.” Cow does not believe that.

      Cow thinks jason know all this about Cow and what Cow believes but wishes to ignore that, but jason is busy moving goal posts and purposefully contorting what Cow says here to try and win an unwinnable argument and convince Cow that Cow is wrong on everything Cow believes.

      jason COULD just say, “I see what you are saying Cow, but I disagree with your view and think you are all wet.”

      But I will never expect jason to do that.
      Cow must be humiliated, destroyed, beaten into submission, etc. so Cow does not post what Cow posts that is of a differing view than jason’s.

      I get it.
      ******************************************
      Cow believes what Cow believes.
      jason believes what jason believes.
      Neither will change the other’s view.
      But they both agree on a whole lot of key things on political matters.

      Peace, brother.

    822. Country Dick Montana says:

      Meldrin – I don’t have time for your c r a p. This is fantasy baseball to you and your kind. I doubt very much that you have anything in the way of a political convictions or understand the philosophy behind them. You are just a windbag. Some kind of wannabe political consultant. Instead of doing it for a living you expound on a blog with 15 regular posters.

      Find a good candidate and while you are at it kiss my azz

    823. Tgca says:

      OUCH!

      CDM Bish slaps down my good friend Meldrim over political differences.

      I haven’t seen such a slap down of an HHR poster since…well…since most here last slapped down Wes on any given day for trying to be another wannabe political consultant.

    824. BayernFan says:

      2024 is a long way off. There will be plenty other perfectly good candidates besides Don and Ron. Who knows what will happen over the next year?

    825. Tgca says:

      841

      Eggszackly!

      There’s always Liz Cheney.

    826. Tgca says:

      Mitt Romney Thinks ‘Expanding the Number of Work Visas’ Will Fix Inflation

      Oh nice! The messaging behind this will go over real well for the GOP at this time.

      F*cking MORON!!!

    827. Country Dick Montana says:

      Th – with the exception of Robbie I tend not to throw insults around or question peoples intelligence. I certainly don’t hold myself as superior (except to say I probably have more experience dealing with the working class.) I try to be respectful.

      I seem to remember a post that I shared concerning Meldrin. It quoted Shakespeare: “Brevity is the soul of wit.” I generally scroll by his posts, along with cows as they are way too long.

      They both belong in Witless Protection.

    828. DW says:

      Bden’s statement from the top of the federal student aid page:

      “Student Loan Debt Relief Is Blocked

      Courts have issued orders blocking our student debt relief program. As a result, at this time, we are not accepting applications. We are seeking to overturn those orders.”

      Biden is going to overturn the decision of the judge?

      With what? An executive order?

      His only option is to go to the SCOTUS to see if THEY will overturn, Biden (WE) cannot overturn.

      The SCOTUS could rule on the lower court decision, or return the decision to the lower court to further review.

      But this judge correctly gave a SUMMARY judgment on the suit, meaning the outcome was so obvious it didn’t need a full hearing.

      We don’t have a KING.

      We have elected representatives who decide how to spend our money.

      If Biden wants to open his own wallet and give money to student loan borrowers, he is free to do so, but NOT our wallets. That is called the House of Representatives.

      I cannot imagine that the SCOTUS would overrule this.

    829. Meldrim says:

      CDM, how can I make my posts shorter when I’ve explained what R+6 means like five times and you still scratch your head and say “I don’t get it, why can’t I add vote percentages to victory margins and have them add up to something that I like?”

      I am not a political consultant; I merely can do simple math. I’m sure that you can do advanced math better than I can (since you studied engineering while I studied business and law), but you’re having–or pretending to have–trouble with something that should not be that difficult for you.

      If you want to understand what an R+6 district is, reread my prior post. If not, then don’t. But, in any event, GFY.

    830. Gordon Allen says:

      The R’s got a majority of the national vote it appears. All circumstances and history pointed to a GOP sweep.
      But it didn’t happen, and no one is to be held responsible according to some.
      Wars and nations are lost thereby, but just grin and bear it, make no changes, and be quiet. As the ship sinks.
      Got it.

    831. Dylan says:

      GOPe/GOP demanded heads roll as a result of the botched Afghanistan withdrawal. No accountability. Milley and Austin still there. and yet GOPe/GOP thinks there should not be brutal recriminations/accountability for failing to decisively win the election. It’s just not realistic but everyone has a CYA tendency.

    832. Wes says:

      Pat Morrisey is weighing another run against Joe Manchin:

      https://www.politico.com/minutes/congress/11-11-2022/manchin-morrisey-24/

      No, thank you.

    833. Tina says:

      Anna The Cow Nutvarro says that desantis won because he “gamed the system.”

      She has become a fat, election denier.

    834. BayernFan says:

      Yuma County dropped. Lake barely beat Hobbs. Not nearly by enough.

      She’s done.

      Watch these so called GOP dominated ED votes end up being a dud.

      Just like ED itself was.

    835. Wes says:

      Morrisey is basically the West Virginia version of Don Stenberg (R-NE): a career politician who desperately wants to be a Senator as the capstone to his career but just isn’t believable to voters in the state as a Senator. As such, Morrisey will never be Senator, though like Stenberg, he will probably never quit chasing that particular will-o’-the-wisp.

    836. BayernFan says:

      Laxalt lead down to 798.

      Clark pouring in now.

    837. Will says:

      Laxalt was never going to win. Harry Reid machine remains too solid

    838. Will says:

      Lombardo will also lose

    839. WizardofCozz says:

      Lombardo just been declared winner.

    840. Tina says:

      Boom!

      Decision Desk HQ

      @DecisionDeskHQ
      ·
      10m
      Decision Desk HQ projects Joe Lombardo (R) elected governor in Nevada.

      D to R Flip.

      #DecisionMade: 7:14pm EST

      Follow more results here: https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/nat

    841. Will says:

      Well, blow me down…..need to be less depressed

    842. Tina says:

      Robby Starbuck

      @robbystarbuck
      ·
      34m
      Wow. In Arizona they discovered that some Republican ballots that were supposed to be counted after the tabulators failed ended up mixed in with ballots that were already counted instead.

    843. Tgca says:

      No one is suggesting there should be no accountability but the fact of the matter is the GOP leadership’s messaging was Biden sucks and they had no messaging about how they would govern so in tight races members were re-elected.

      Historically, the GOP house control did not stay above 230 for long. 6 of the last elections in which the GOP controlled the house since 1994 were in the 220s. If the GOP ends up there that is still good from where it was at 212.

      Many here got duped by the polls and upset they didn’t get a BIGGER win even though the GOP did very well in many areas.

      It’s like an Olympic gold medalist being upset they won the gold but did not set a new record.

      Be grateful for what we got. This can stop the Biden agenda.

    844. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      There will be a big dump of ballots tonight in Arizona. Republicans seem excited about it since the R/D ratio is about 2:1. If so, Lake(R) should receive a net of upwards of 20,000 votes.

    845. Tina says:

      The AZ – abc15 – Data Guru

      @Garrett_Archer
      ·
      10m
      La Paz County has tabulated 849 ballots
      They are count complete.

      Batch breakdown
      Governor
      @KariLake
      75
      @katiehobbs
      25

      Senate
      @bgmasters
      71.3
      @CaptMarkKelly
      25.9

      AZSOS
      @RealMarkFinchem
      73.5
      @Adrian_Fontes
      26.5

      AZAG
      @AbrahamHamadeh
      74.7
      @krismayes
      25.3
      57
      170
      680

      The AZ – abc15 – Data Guru

      @Garrett_Archer
      ·
      12m
      Mohave County has tabulated 10,092ballots
      Est. 1,300 remaining.

      Batch breakdown
      Governor
      @KariLake
      78.9
      @katiehobbs
      21

      Senate
      @bgmasters
      76.2
      @CaptMarkKelly
      21.4

      AZSOS
      @RealMarkFinchem
      78.2
      @Adrian_Fontes
      21.7

      AZAG
      @AbrahamHamadeh
      79.7
      @krismayes
      20.

    846. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Anna The Cow Nutvarro says that desantis won because he “gamed the system.” ”
      _________________________________

      I checks my predigree and lineage.

      She is NO relation to me.

    847. Tina says:

      Yes be grateful. And know the courts have stopped a lot of,the Biden sheot.

      Jonathan Turley has tweeted about the courts detailing his agenda.

      You can go,to his Twitter feed.

    848. Tina says:

      Derailing*

    849. Cash Cow TM says:

      ” In Arizona they discovered that some Republican ballots that were supposed to be counted after the tabulators failed ended up mixed in with ballots that were already counted instead.”

      IMAGINE THAT!

      LOL.
      (b@st@rds)

    850. Tina says:

      Of course, Biden’s Beotch has assisted

      CRs

      Bailouts

      $$$ spending

      Vax mandates

    851. Cash Cow TM says:

      Cow does not trust the “counting” processes
      in NV and AZ.

      Maybe that’s just me.
      *********************************

      ON A RELATED NOTE:

      In MD CD 6, they have finished counting the mail in ballots (lots from DC suburgs Montgomery county),

      The conservative R guy Walt knows, likes, supported and hoped would win (both served in WV and MD legislatures at same time and both attended many Quad State Legislative conferences) has lost.
      ————————————————
      (R) Neil Parrott has conceded.
      Not sure of the margin of loss.
      Parrott was ahead by @4,500 votes before they started counting the VMB horsecrap ballots.

    852. Bitterlaw says:

      Let’s stop this absurd civil war and discuss something more important. I think this is better than Bob Seeger’s version.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C3BuITOx3Cs

    853. Cash Cow TM says:

      OMG!

      Walt just won 10 (TEN) online bridge games
      IN A ROW against the two friggin’ robot opponents before losing game 11.

      His previous record over the last 19 years was winning 1 in a row.

      the STEAM is coming out of both robots’ ears.
      They are P!$$ed!
      *******************************
      BTW,

      Mr. and Mrs. Walt did take me to dinner this time.

      Cow had the chikin.
      Looked the other way while everyone else was eating steak.

    854. Gordon Allen says:

      Sure looks like the Democrats won another one with an extended count producing another close win.
      Have we seen this movie before?
      Dem 51-49 Senateeans they pour on leftist nominees and judges who get confirmed.
      So much for Rick Scott and his 55/56 seats.

    855. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      Cow likes the Kenny Rodgers.

      Thanks for the link!

      ****************************
      BTW,

      Walt kicked the cat and said the voters
      in MD CD 6 can GFT.

      I guess Walt is still upset over Mrs. Walt giving him a lot of grief over this and that.

    856. Cash Cow TM says:

      HEADLINES TODAY

      AOL

      12 ANTI TRUMP, ANTI GOP

      7 of the 12 are directly about Trump.

    857. Cash Cow TM says:

      Headlines today

      Forgot to do MSN

      14 Anti Trump, Anti GOP

      5 of 14 were directly about Trump

    858. Cash Cow TM says:

      Eleven counties in Oregon (comprising more than 1/2 of the area of OR) have voted pretty overwhelmingly to secede from Oregon.

      LOL
      ________________________________________
      Good friggin’ luck with that.
      I am sure the Oregon legislature will vote to agree to allow you to leave Oregon and join Idaho.

      NOT.

    859. Cash Cow TM says:

      tina,

      We all know the courts are racist.
      Just like the power ball lottery.

      LOL
      ———————————–
      Seriously though,

      It is beyond me why the courts do not strike down MORE of Biden’s insanity and boneheaded and nharmful to the nation Executive Orders–and do it the day after he announces such foolishness.

      The whackadoodle Ds like Biden are not just content with federal agencies (through regulation and their “regulatory powers”) usurping Congress and making their own laws (that they could never get Congress to actually pass), they want to usurp the construction through whackadoodle D executive orders that usurp the power of congress.

      –“NO MORE INTERNAL COMUBSTION VEHICLES CAN BE SOLD AFTER 2035!”
      –“Stop the pipeline!”
      –“Stop Oil drilling!”
      –“Shut down coal fired power plants!”
      –Stop building the wall on southern border!”
      –Open the Southern border!”

      smh
      —————————————–
      Remember the ‘COURTS’ also said that Obamacare was perfectly legal and the federal government legally could require everyone to purchase health insurance.

      So I guess by the same logic, the federal government can require everyone to buy an electric car and enrich China, harm the environment more than an internal combustion vehicle, and further destroy the U.S. economy.

      SMH..indeed.

      It was a nice country while it lasted.

    860. Tina says:

      Kyle is crying.

      Kyle Cheney

      @kyledcheney
      ·
      1h
      NEW: Trump has effectively doomed any chance of testifying before the Jan. 6 committee, filing federal suit in south Florida to block the panel’s subpoena.

      There’s no time to litigate this before the committee dissolves.

      In short, it’s over.

      https://politico.com/news/2022/11/11/trump-sues-to-block-subpoena-from-house-jan-6-committee-00066606

    861. Cash Cow TM says:

      The HEADLINES TODAY include the following
      (I did not bother to click on any to read the content).

      I rarely post the ACTUAL HEADLINES.
      But decided to let you all see what I have witnessed for months.
      ________________________________________
      ACTUAL HEADLINES THIS EVENING:

      “THE GOP HAS A PROBLEM AND IT’S NOT JUST TRUMP”
      (notice they did not just say: ‘the Rs have a problem.”)

      “COURT TO RECONSIDER TRUMP-ERA DECISION THAT
      FAVORED ALASKA ROAD PROJECT”
      (notice that it is a TRUMP-ERA decision)

      “TRUMP ACOLYTE HERSCHEL WALKER MAY TURN TO HUGE DRAW DESANTIS HEAD OF GEORGIA RUNOFF”
      Notice that it is “TRUP ACOLYTE””

      “TRUMP’S STARTLING DESANTIS CLAIM MADE IT INTO A FLORIDA COURTROOM IN ONLY 24 HOURS”

      “LOOKS LIKE TRUMPS BIG ANNOUNCEMENT NEXT WEEK IS RUINED ND–OH CRAP–NOW MERRICK GARLAND’S BACK”

      “FAIRWELL TO THE 2022 CLASS OF MAGA WIERDOS”
      (Photo of Oz so I guess it is all the Trump endorsed candidates)

      “TRUMP EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE 2024 RUN; TIMING QUESTIONED”

      “TRUMP TURNS HIS RAGE ON ANOTHER GOP GOVERNOR”

      “TRUMP’S ANGER TOWARD DESATIS BOILS ONLINE”

      “SENATE GOP FEARS REPEAT OF TRUMP DISASTER IN GEORGIA”
      (notice that it was not fear of the 2020 GA runoff disaster; it was fearing a repeat of ‘TRUMP DISASTER””

      “SENATOR WHO DEFIED TRUMP BREAKS CURSE”

      “WHY TRUMP ALLY LAUREN BOEBERT IN IN A TIGHT RACE FOR HER HOUSE SEAT”
      (notice it was ‘TRUMP ALLY”…)

      “BIDEN APOLOGISES FOR TRUMP AT CLIMATE CONFERENCE”

      “WHAT BECAME OF GOP CANDIDATES WHO PROTESTED IN D.C. ON JAN. 6”

      and others like:

      “NOOSE FOUND AT OBAMA PRESIDENTIAL SITE IN CHICAGO”

      and others about “WHY ANTI-SEMITISM IS HERE TO STAY”
      (pretty much verbatim headline. I click wrong and lost the page am not inclined to go to all the trouble that is necessary to get it back)

      plus another one about racism

      and another one about anti-semitism

      and many others derogatory to Republicans in general.
      *******************************************
      I WISH I COULD TELL YOU THAT THIS IS ALL A COW PARODY ABOUT THE NEWS HEADLINES.

      BUT I SWEAR IT IS DIRECT QUOTES ON REAL HEADLINES THIS EVENING on MSN and AOL.
      ***************************************
      THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF SLANTED HEADLINES THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS, AND MONTHS, AND MONTHS, AND MONTHS.

      What do various groups of people (hard Rs, squishy Rs, Indys, soft Ds, etc.) think when they see months and months of these types of headlines?

      smh

      THANK GOD WE GOT AN UNBIASED PRESS!

      smh
      It was a good county at one time..

    862. BayernFan says:

      Maricopa went 54-46 for Hobbs.

      *splat*

    863. Cash Cow TM says:

      tin,

      This is a perfect time for Trump to tweet:

      “My subpoena is bigger than your subpoena.”

      I’m SURE it will be a big hit that benefit him politically!

      smh
      ***************************************
      It was a good county while it lasted.
      (iwagcwil)

    864. BayernFan says:

      Kelly projected winner.

    865. Cash Cow TM says:

      BayernFan,

      Hobbs was the second worst D candidate for a major office I saw this cycle.

      The VERY worst (Titleholder For 2022) was Fetterman.

      Apparently both are “winners”

      “THE NATION IS SAVED!”

      **********************************************

      –MAIL IN BALLOTS SONG–

      Keep those ballots coming,
      Keep those ballots coming,
      Raw Hide.

      Don’t bother to sign or date them
      As long as they vote for Dem
      Keep them ballots coming!
      RAW HIDE!

      Printers on
      Move em out!
      Harvest done.
      D win we’ll tout!
      Keep them ballots coming,
      RAW HIDE!!

    866. Cash Cow TM says:

      I forgot to add in #885 above:

      It was a good country while it lasted.

    867. Cash Cow TM says:

      ““THE NATION IS SAVED!”

      The (sarcasm) I typed between two little sideways “V”s did not get printed in the post above.

      Oh well.

    868. Tina says:

      The AZ – abc15 – Data Guru

      @Garrett_Archer
      ·
      51s
      Not that I want to rain on anyone’s party. But a reminder that based on the affidavit transmission party data we still have some very, very friendly batches coming for R slate in Maricopa. Almost certainly not friendly enough for Masters.
      Lake and Hamadeh are very much in this.

    869. BayernFan says:

      Finchem lost.

    870. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Kelly projected winner.”

      Well Yee Friggin Hah.
      Another D robot for Biden and the whack jobs!

      **************************************
      It was a good nation while it lasted.

    871. John says:

      At this point after researching several websites with what is left in Nevada to county (Douglas County) and others it looks like Laxalt just might pull out and win…

    872. Cash Cow TM says:

      “US border agency leader is being forced out”

      https://www.aol.com/news/ap-sources-us-border-agency-200201122.html
      *******************************************

      Chris Magnus was asked by to either resign or get fired by Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. He is refusing to resign.

      LOL
      _________________________________
      Yes indeedy.
      This will solve the southern border crisis.
      (NOT)

      Throw this guy (who is disliked by border agents) under the bus.

      But goofball Biden keeps telling the world “COME ON DOWN! err.. I mean “UP!

      And goofball Mayorkas (who border security workers dislike even more than Chris Magnus) keeps running the failed sh!+show operation of “open borders” and does not even PRETEND to do anything to stop the flow of illegals.
      _________________________________________
      Yeah.
      That will solve the problem.
      Just throw this other goofball under the bus.
      That will solve the problem.
      (sarcasm)

      *****************************************
      It was a good nation while it lasted.

    873. JeffP says:

      Between the mail in ballot 2000 mules steal of 2020 and this huge disappointment of 2022 (Mitch, Kevin and Ronna need to be removed from leadership after this debacle). I can’t deal with the Trump drama anymore either. I am disconnecting from Politics for the time being. It’s becoming a waste of time and emotion.

      My daughter is the admin in the legislative and policy division for AG Todd Rokita and on the front lines of the cultural war every day. I feel like I have passed the torch to her in some way anyway. Thank God we home schooled her.

    874. Cash Cow TM says:

      SOMETHING BIG IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE UNIVERSE.

      AND I MEAN B.I.G
      ____________________________
      Walt went to play more online bridge against the two almost unbeatable online bridge robot opponents and won 5 MORE IN A ROW!

      (yes, the game gives Walt a robot partner, but Walt says they are dumb as hell in bidding.)

      Anyway, Walt was winning game #6 [pre-dealt hands and bidding already done by the computer] and then the screen froze and a message came on the screen “HAVING TROUBLE WITH CONNECTION TO THIS SITE” and then connection was lost.

      Did Walt kill the two superhuman almost 90% undefeatable robot opponents?

      THIS IS BIG.

    875. Cash Cow TM says:

      Sorry to hear that, JeffP.
      Seriously.
      —————————————
      Remember and consoled by telling yourself:

      It was a good nation while it lasted.

      the U.S. DID do a lot of good for a lot of people–in U.S. and throughout the world and made a positive difference.

      We were the shining example.
      ————————————–
      Cow went with Walt (and Mrs. Walt, though neither of them or their Dads were veterans) this morning to the annual Veterans Day memorial and a re-dedication to the recently restored (and moved to a new location) Statue. The Doughboy statue also has the names of every Berkeley County serviceman (and women) who lost their life in WW I. I have no relatives among the names written on the monument. But I have read all the names on a number of occasions–and thanks them for their service and sacrifice so I could have a better life. At our War Memorial Park, we have many trees that were planted and (when I was a kid) at each tree there was a plaque with another Berkeley County soldier who lost his life in WW II to honor them.

      A number of Walt and Mrs. Walt’s uncles and siblings, brother in laws and nephews were veterans.

      It was a GREAT ceremony.
      we had a MUCH bigger crowd than previous years.
      EVEN THOUGH IT WAS HELD TODAY DURING A DOWNPOUR OF RAIN!

      Cow even had to dab the Cow eyes during the closing prayer (while everyone’s heads were bowed, and eyes closed). If anyone would have ask me about it, I would say it was rain on my face.

    876. Cash Cow TM says:

      Maybe at some point, the American voters will do the right thing.

      And then do that again.

      And again.

      And again.

    877. Cash Cow TM says:

      In the GOOD news category today:

      Rooshans have pulled out of Kherson.

      Reports say that the Rooshans abandoned many heavy pieces tanks and artillery) in the land on the W. of the whatever river that they had occupied for many months.

      Good news!

    878. Cash Cow TM says:

      Also,

      The Ukranians are continuing to build a wall between Ukraine and Belarus.

      (I thought walls did not work)

    879. Tgca says:

      871

      In response to my good friend Bitter’s post below, I agree.

      I will no longer harbor grudges against him now that he has apologized and admitted how badly he has treated me and hurt my feelings. I forgive him.

      Now let’s discuss ABORTION.

      Let’s stop this absurd civil war and discuss something more important.

    880. Tgca says:

      MSNBC Panelist Floats ‘Exciting’ Liz Cheney, Stacey Abrams Joint Run in 2024

      REALLY?

      I mean REALLY?

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/11/msnbc-panelist-floats-exciting-liz-cheney-stacey-abrams-joint-run-in-2024/

    881. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      In honor of Veterans Day:

      “America without her soldiers would be like God without his angels.”

    882. VictrC says:

      Happy Veterans Day to my fellow Vets. It’s because of your service we even have a country to fight over. And to all of you who served, and today are saddened and maybe a bit defeated, do not be so.

      The war is won in the trenches, and many of us have experienced. Lament not, whike this week wasn’t what we expected or wanted, look at the state houses, school boards and the total number of votes we received. In this take solace, because it’s here where we begin the resistance, the counter offensive…one that will help us save this country from the misfits, the socialists, those who want everything for free and you to pay for it.

      Because of you, and your service, there is a country worth fighting for. Thank you, and God Bless You.

    883. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      897. Rooshans have pulled out of Kherson.

      Ukrainian flags now fly again in Kherson. Ukrainian troops have liberated it, along with a huge amount of territory on the west side of the Dneiper River. It is even a more important victory than the September offensive around Kharkiv. Putin knows he is in trouble; plus the U.S. elections did not turn out as he hoped.

    884. Tgca says:

      901

      Stupid comment.

      God doesn’t exist!

      We’ve been told it here by certain posters.

      If you can’t prove God exists, then he doesn’t.

    885. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Selfish DeSantis Takes Entire Red Wave For Himself
      Nov 10, 2022 · BabylonBee.com

      TALLAHASSEE, FL — The 2022 midterm elections ended with a heap of disappointments and shattered expectations for the Republican party. As the nation waits patiently for final tallies to trickle in and determine party power, one thing is for certain: Florida governor Ron DeSantis selfishly hoarded the entire red wave for himself.

      GOP insiders are livid at DeSantis, claiming there was plenty of red wave to go around.

      “While we’re glad to see DeSantis win Florida, it’s obvious he didn’t need the whole batch of red wave to get the job done,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, the GOP puppetmaster adept at appearing to do nothing for the Republican party while working tirelessly behind the scenes to actually do nothing. “We could have used some of the stuff in Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona. Did we get any? Nope.”

      Donald Trump has appeared unphased by his young rival’s selfish stockpiling of precious red wave, an act that purportedly made the 45th president’s handpicked MAGA candidates look like incompetent morons, costing the party vital seats in the House and Senate. To demonstrate how unfettered he was by DeSantis, Trump went to TRUTH Social and Truthed, “Little Ronnie DeSelfish won’t know what hit him when I very soon will reveal a redder, wavier wave, bigger than any wave that’s ever waved. Huge wave. Huge, red wave!””

    886. Wes says:

      Well, Tg, what if you picked the wrong religion?

      Let’s say Buddhism is the one true faith. If so, then you’ll spend literal sextillions of years–which, despite feeling like it, won’t actually be an eternity–having Lord Enma torture you in Jigoku (the Buddhist Hell). Then, because of your rejection of the one true faith in this life, after those sextillions of years in Jigoku, you’ll be reincarnated as a lower form of life. You might even be reincarnated as Bob Menendez. Honestly I can’t think of a lower form of life than the senior Senator from New Jersey.

      You’d have to endure all that for believing the wrong religion. Meanwhile, devout Buddhists would advance toward Nirvana and never have to worry about suffering again.

      Therein lies my problem with religion. All of their adherents claim to believe in the single true faith of the world. All of them have exactly as much evidence of the veracity of their faith as Scotland Yard has of the actual identity of Jack the Ripper.

      It’s much easier to me to acknowledge I don’t really know how the universe came to be and reject the idea as unproven of an undemonstrated superbeing written in a book in a language I don’t speak thousands of years ago before being translated multiple times before finally making it into a language I understand than to blindly believe something others told me to believe.

    887. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      If Republicans cannot prevail in an election with an unpopular Democrat President and poor economic conditions, it will be out-in-the-wilderness for years to come. The Trump era is probably over and Trump himself could end up in a straight jacket in a federal prison.
      The GOP lost the Senate and will, almost definitely, not get the 218 seats for the House. The GOP’s House net gains will total all of 3 or 4 seats. Pelosi will be back. Another two rounds of reconciliation will pass.
      The GOP needs fresher, more mainstream candidates and not flamethrowers.
      State GOP Parties need serious reforms.
      The GOPe needs fewer National Review types and more organizations for Get-Out-The-Vote efforts. The McConnell-types should be mindful of the GOP base, not do deals that the GOP base loathes like gun control just before an election and NOT give each GOP Senator the greenlight to negotiate separately from the vast majority of GOP Senators like he did with gun control and infrastructure. Just before the election, McConnell was asked what the biggest issue was facing the Country and he said, Ukraine. Stupid! My rant is over.

    888. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Victor Davis Hanson’s take on the election:

      “Trump’s pre-election unexpected attack on DeSantis may have turned off a few thousand independents and Republicans from voting for Trump-affiliated candidates. And his pre-midterm boast that he would likely run for president may have scared—and energized—some last-minute, hard-core anti-Trumpers and Democrats to go out to vote.

      Pollsters got it wrong—again. But this time once trustworthy conservative pollsters had little inkling that the simmering left-wing base was enthused by wild talk of abortion and insurrection. The real under-polled voters were not silent, wary Trump supporters, but this time around seething upscale women and college students.

      Final takeaways?

      Democratic opposition to a flawed and impaired Biden running again in 2024 will recede. Republican loyalty to the unpredictable Trump could fade.

      And both those realities will empower DeSantis.”

    889. Bitterlaw says:

      Impossible. I read at HHR that abortion was a Zzzzzzzzz in this election cycle.

    890. Country Dick Montana says:

      Country has changed. Get used to it and adapt. In its current direction it is not worth saving.

      But hey, we can still save Ukraine. That’s what really matters.

    891. Gordon Allen says:

      Recommend aticle in Powerline called Ron’s rules,citing 8 critical memes that can be used everywhere.
      One is stop the use of unctious boilerplate statements that people have heard a million times. Be direct and consistent,and always stay on offense.
      You don’t need to tack to the center to win independents but just perform your job without drama.
      And recognize Hispanics want the same things Americans do,and coddling them w amnesty promises and open borders will NOT work.
      These 8 points should be a template,but Republicans, being the stupid party,led by brain dead consultants,probably will revert to mush..and lose.

    892. Gordon Allen says:

      If the GOP only nets 4 or a few more seats remember 4 of them I believe came from Florida, because DeSantis vetoed the REPUBLICAN passed Map,and flat insisted on his map.
      Just saying.
      We need more aggressive, smarter,realistic GOP political leaders than
      We now have in the RNC,House,and Senate,and elsewhere, but am not sure there are enough rock the boat types to do that.
      Hope I’m wrong.

    893. Bitterlaw says:

      CDM wants America and Ukraine to fail. Make note of it.

    894. Country Dick Montana says:

      Gordy – give it up. At the national level, all politicians regardless of their party are in it for themselves. Witness the GOP voting on leadership when they haven’t finished the election.

      There isn’t a single one GOP or Dem that cares about their constituents. Just give power to a federal bureaucracy and you don’t even have to work. Just do a little performance art for the prols every once in a while.

      Adapt or check out. Those are the only alternatives.

    895. Country Dick Montana says:

      At least I call it as I see it. I am not some hypocritical virtue signaling piece of garbage. You mindlessly vote R because they are always better than a D. Just as your faith in your religion it allows you to put your brain in neutral and just plod along in your entitled life.

    896. Bitterlaw says:

      Entitled life? Zzzzzzz

      I earned everything I have. So did you. If you want to demean me because I continued my education rather than using a wrench, go for it. I value what you did for a living. I respect people who can build things, fix things or grow things. I don’t have those skills and abilities.

      Jason- I want the points for hypocritical piece of garbage.

    897. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Jackie8News
      Asked about former President Trump saying Gov. Youngkin’s name “sounds Chinese” and that he couldn’t have won without him, @GovernorVA says he didn’t see the comments. He said he does not call people names and he is focused on bringing people together @8NEWS”

    898. Bitterlaw says:

      Everything is relative. Was America worth saving in 1979? Fortunately, enough people rejected defeatism and elected Reagan in 1980.

    899. Wes says:

      DeSantis and Youngkin aren’t giving Trump the attention he craves. I have to wonder what Trump will say next to try to goad them into acknowledging him.

    900. Country Dick Montana says:

      Bitter I have 2 MS degrees. I work with people that turn a wrench and weld and run equipment. I can also do all of that.

      I denigrate you because you are weak. You virtue signal by posting your virtue here. Sounds like a pretty easy way out to me. The biggest threat that we have is Biden or whoever is pulling his strings as well as those who support him, including the establishment R. I can’t fight his F-15 or nukes. I can’t fight his weaponized DOJ or IRS, but what I can do is no longer contribute to the success of this country that really affects very few.

      The points thing is getting old. After asking for them I picture Jason saying “That will do Bitterlaw, that will do.”

    901. Bitterlaw says:

      Also add points for virtue signaling.

      CDM seriously wants us to believe that he gave up a physically demanding job that he loved because of Biden’s energy policies? The more realistic answer is that he wanted to retire, he had the ability to retire, and decided to do so while pretending he was making a bold political protest.

      I like CDM. I respect what he did for a living. I hope he enjoys his golden years. He can GFH.

    902. Country Dick Montana says:

      It is true I was eligible to retire…many years before I actually did. Then reason I did was not for his energy policies but because the direction the voters wanted to go. I wasn’t going to contribute anymore. I want people to freeze this winter. I want rolling blackouts. I want people to get what it is they voted for.

      Call me when you have the guts to do something difficult, something that actually hurts you.

    903. Bitterlaw says:

      Being called weak and a virtue signaler by somebody who pretends his long-planned retirement was an act of political courage is laughable.

      I thought you were leaving. I did not want you to go but you made such a strong point of going. Of course, very few posters actually go for long. MD and likely lisab are the exceptions.

      If I am so weak, how am I still here? I should have died long ago, right?

    904. jason says:

      Greg Price
      @greg_price11
      Blake Masters’ race is probably going to be decided by less than 30,000 votes and Mitch McConnell decided to spend $9M in Alaska to help a pro-abortion Republican beat an America First Republican for no other reason than Blake said he wouldn’t support him for majority leader.”

      So a pox on both sides IMO. Masters made his bed by stupidly declaring he wouldn’t vote for McConnell before he was even a Senator. McConnell threw away the seat because he diverted funds to other candidates he felt were more loyal and/or had a better chance at winning.

      Masters is right that if it is that close another 5 million would have swung the election. But he can’t ignore he set himself up for failure.

      In the end, a few thousand votes here and there are going to make the difference between the GOP having 52 seats and having 49 or 50. Pretty sickening.

    905. Wes says:

      This is an interesting argument between CDM and Bitter.

    906. Wes says:

      You have to give Masters and Bolduc credit, Jason:

      They promised never to vote for McConnell to be Senate Majority Leader, and they’re keeping that promise.

    907. jason says:

      hypocritical virtue signaling piece of garbage”

      Damm, I hate to be on the short end of points early in the day like this.

      The flip side is I have plenty of time to recover.

    908. Bitterlaw says:

      Then you are just a cold, vindictive bastard. Call me when you stop pretending that fishing or catching crabs is an act of political courage.

    909. jason says:

      I think CDM is right about the state of the county.

      I think he is wrong about Bitter.

    910. jason says:

      They promised never to vote for McConnell to be Senate Majority Leader, and they’re keeping that promise.”

      Ok I would laugh if I wasn’t crying.

    911. Tgca says:

      906. Wes

      Your argument is simplistic and emotional, and void of any scientific possibilities beyond your comprehension.

      You can say the same things you claim about love or peace or kindness or capitalism but at the end of the day, religion is about Faith.

      Believing that something is adherently good and better than something else is about Faith and not something that can be proved in most concepts.

      People kill in the name of love all the time. In fact, crimes of passion make up a significant percent of crimes involving assault. Therefore, having Faith in love is questionable because killing in the name of love is antithetical to the concept of love.

      How many times have wars been fought in the name of keeping peace? Is peace really a good thing? Ask many who have been victims of wars started in the name of keeping peace.

      Kindness? How many people show acts of kindness to some but no mercy to others? Can you really show that kindness is better than cruelty?

      How many times have crimes and murder resulted from capitalism, not to mention routine scandals that’s society. Is capitalism really better?

      The point is religion is about FAITH. Clearly, you have none and that is fine but don’t try to belittle people who have Faith with emotional simplistic arguments and expect to be taken seriously.

      There are also scientific methods to show there is a good argument that the universe did not just magically appear and that our orderly universe may have resulted from some form of creator but I suspect you’ve never heard of or read about these mathematical and scientific probabilities that propose such possibilities.

      So feel free to not have Faith in religion but you should consider being consistent and applying that to numerous other beliefs in life you have such as love, peace, kindness, and capitalism just to name a few.

    912. gameboy says:

      CDM is absolutely right. The fact that 45% of Pennsylvanians voted for a brain dead dude who lived off an allowance from mommy for 50 years pretty much sums it up. Worse than the extra 5% of manufactured ballots the guy needed to claim victory. As someone else mentioned I would not be shocked if the GOP can’t even get to the 218 seats needed for the majority.

    913. jason says:

      but jason is busy moving goal posts and purposefully contorting what Cow says here to try and win an unwinnable argument and convince Cow that Cow is wrong on everything Cow believes.

      jason COULD just say, “I see what you are saying Cow, but I disagree with your view and think you are all wet.”

      But I will never expect jason to do that.
      Cow must be humiliated, destroyed, beaten into submission, etc. so Cow does not post what Cow posts that is of a differing view than jason’s.”

      Hey Cow, that is a bunch of drivel and garbage.

      There is no free hay or pasture here at HHR.

      You claimed something that wasn’t true as FACT, in big letters. That is not a “difference of opinion” it is a baldfaced lie.

      Trump was not on the ballot in 2018 or 2022. If you want to make the point that 2018 was a referendum on Trump’s presidency, go ahead, that would be a difference of opinion. But in 2022, Trump was not even President, Biden was, and Trump was not on the ballot anywhere. Trump’s involvement in the election was limited to some primary endorsement and a few rallies, but the Dems didn’t run against Trump, they ran on abortion and more entitlements and protecting Democracy and against “fascism”. Obama probably did more campaigning than Trump did. The fact Dems use Trump in mailers to raise funds doesn’t mean the election was a referendum on Trump. I saw hundreds of ads in different states, I did not see ONE about Trump.

      In the end, the Dems convinced enough voters their vision for the country was better. If Arizonans wanted border security, they would have voted for Masters, not for a guy who voted against all border security bills. They voted for Kelly, nothing to do with Trump.

      Frankly, I think the number of people who came out to vote because of the guy who has been out of office for years is like 1 in a million.

      Disagree? Fine. But don’t post a lie and then say “jason should respect a difference of opinion”.

      Not going to happen.

    914. Tgca says:

      909

      ABORTION was a local issue in mostly left-leaning areas so it had little impact across the nation as a whole. If ABORTION was such a BIG issue, then why did the GOP do so well in NY, a very lefty state? Why did the GOP also pick up seats in at least 3 CA jurisdictions while losing in others?

      Again, you got duped by polls suggesting a BIG RED WAVE when it was merely a ripple as a whole.

      The GOP already had 212 seats and historically has rarely sustained more than 230 seats for long periods. In fact, of the 11 elections the GOP won since the 1994 House win, more than half the times the average GOP house seat results were in the 220s.

      Since the GOP had won back most of the seats in 2020 it previously lost in 2018, the expectation of a UUUUGE wave was not realistic in this closely divided nation where most incumbents won.

      You got your hopes up based on being fed polls with flawed methodologies that could not be spread to every jurisdiction, as all politics are local, as the saying goes.

      You were duped! Accept it and be grateful for the successes the GOP did have because there were many.

    915. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Trump appears to be lashing out at those who do not provide him sufficient difference. He should remember a great piece of advice from Lake Wohegan:

      “How can we miss you when you won’t go away.”

    916. Tgca says:

      911

      Not all Latinos vote the same. I guarantee you that Latinos in north Jersey and most of CA do not vote like many of the Latinos in FL and TX. Also, Latinos are made of a number of different groups and there are differences in them as well. NYC Puerto Ricans, think AOC, do not vote like FL Cubans, think Lil’Marco.

      Instead, GOP messaging should have broad principles and then be tailored to the needs of specific locations based on those demographics. The Biden SUCKS only message FAILED miserably and a lesson learned for future elections.

      Electing a GOP CongressCritter in SC is not the same as electing one in NY.

      The Dems did a much better job of messaging to direct DW ographics this election than the GOP even though the GOP appears to have had a much larger turnout.

    917. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Voters protected abortion rights throughout the United States:

      “After Kansas voters rejected a proposed state constitutional amendment that would have allowed state lawmakers to enact abortion restrictions this summer, a handful of other states took the issue to the voters.

      On Tuesday, voters in Michigan, California and Vermont amended their respective state constitutions to include reproductive rights. In Kentucky, voters narrowly rejected an amendment that would have said there was no right to abortion.

      Montanans, meanwhile, rejected a legislative referendum that would have required mandatory medical interventions to save “born-alive” infants, including fetuses diagnosed as nonviable. Fifty-three percent of voters cast ballots against the referendum, which would have established criminal penalties for health care providers who refused to intervene. The proposed penalties included sentences up to 20 years in jail and a $50,000 fine.”

    918. Tgca says:

      915. CDM

      Your constant “the world sucks and nothing ever good comes from life” is what you refer to as “I call it as I see it?” Hmmm…

      Is that your political strategy going forward and approach to life?

      Sorry to see you in such pain. May I offer you a rope and chair?

      Otherwise, if you’re single and available and your preferred pronouns are He/His/Him, maybe I can hook you up with my mom, one of the most pessimistic people the world has ever seen who has been miserable her whole life of 80+ years.

    919. jason says:

      Ok, so more on PA.

      Yesterday I pointed out that Oz voters did not cost Mastriano the win, if everyone who voted for Oz voted for Mastriano he would have 47% not 43%, and still lose.

      But did Mastriano voters cost Oz the election. If everyone who voted for Mastriano voted for Oz would Oz have won?

      The math is much more complicated. You would have to go county by county and see where if anywhere Mastriano got more votes than OZ and count them to see if they total enough to erase the Shapiro/Oz difference.

      I am not doing that but I will do a sampling.

      Let’s see let’s do deep Franklin county nearby.

      Oz 44,743 69%
      Fetterman 18,592 29%

      Mastriano 42,667 66%
      Shapiro 21,492 33%

      Now small deep deep red county

      Bedford

      Oz 17,929 81%
      Fetterman 3,780 17%

      Mastriano 17,171 78%
      Shapiro 4,701 21%

      Now medium sized red county

      York

      Oz 108,595 59%
      Fetterman 70,022 35%

      Mastriano 97,738 54%
      Shapiro 81,630 44%

      So a pattern emerges. Oz does much better the larger the county is, but we know even if Mastriano matched him vote for vote he wouldn’t have one.

      And if you go to smaller red counties, it is a lot closer, but even there Mastriano does not poll Oz.

      So Mastriano voters DID NOT cost Oz the election.

    920. jason says:

      Now going fishing with Ma.

    921. Tina says:

      So, are the Gop-e leadership elections going forward?

      It is stupid, if they are.

    922. jason says:

      The Montana vote on abortion was pretty surprising.

      And discouraging.

    923. Tgca says:

      937

      ABORTION was already protected in most areas by state laws or precedent so it was not the driving factor across the nation, as exit polls showed in various states.

      Again, ABORTION did not lose the election nationally, otherwise the GOP would not have picked up House seats in NY state or win the gubbernorship in NV.

      The BIG FAIL was generally four-fold:

      1. Poor GOP messaging and lack of targeted messaging to needed voters. Biden sucks appears to have been the only GOP message.

      2. General reliance on polls that were not accurate and therefore hurt the ability to better focus resources to win.

      3. The country is evenly divided so it was not realistic to expect the GOP expanding successfully in Dem leaning territories across the board. This is not 1980 or even 1990. Times have changed.

      4. A large percentage of people are vested more in leftist ideology and willing to accept the painful consequences – at least for now.

    924. jason says:

      The Montana law was probably too draconian.

      It should have just said hospitals and doctors were obligated to save the babies, subject to disciplinary action or referral to the medical board or something like that.

      20 years and $50k was too much. Overreach.

    925. Cash Cow TM says:

      Of all the poll predictions here at HHS, Dave seems to have been the closest to the final result.

      CONGRATS TO THE WIZARD!

      (sadly)

    926. Country Dick Montana says:

      Sorry that I missed the last few posts. As an act of political courage I was having breakfast at the local Bob’s (Jason would approve of my choices from the menu) and of course it was seniors discount. Right now I am in the process of finding some white loafers to replace my boots. And this afternoon as a further sign of political courage I will go play some pickleball then Bingo this evening (after my 4:30 early bird at the Golden Corral.)

    927. Cash Cow TM says:

      Why the hell are so many of you up so early on a Saturday and posting coherent thoughts on HHR?

      It’s SATURDAY, for Pete’s Sake.

      Walt and I stumble out of bed much later in the morning and shuffle around in a haze trying to get our brains to engage while we figure out what to eat for breakfast–and then see what is on the chores list for today.

    928. Tgca says:

      If the GOP loses AK House seat, there’s gonna be a who lotta HATE out there for Murk, Palin, and Begich.

      Palin outperformed Begich AGAIN by a comfortable margin so he may get the most flack for not dropping out, especially since it will be his 3rd loss in a high profile race the last few years.

      Murk may get flack too because the STOOPID rank voting was put in to protect her by her GOP cronies in AK from losing primaries.

      Palin should get the least flack because she actually got more votes as the GOP nominee and would have prevailed both times had it not feen for rank voting.

      Wouldn’t it be awful if the GOP lost the House by one vote because AK seat went Dem?

    929. Cash Cow TM says:

      Cow typed it wrong about the Doughboy statue memorial ere in my county.

      It listed all the Berkeley County men who died in WWI and also lists all the 1000+ men and women from Berkeley County who SERVED during WWI.

    930. Tgca says:

      948

      Some of us don’t sleep so well. I was wide awake by 6:15AM after 1st waking up at 5:20AM and that was after going to bed after 1AM.

      …but I did have an hour nap yesterday afternoon.

      Retirement is sooooo frustrating at times.

    931. jason says:

      Anyone who wants to deny aid to these people should be ashamed of themselves.

      Look at the morale of these soldiers.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq300eUoQfg

    932. Tgca says:

      So I see NV passed ranked voting by nearly 53%. They have to vote on it again in 2024 for it to be formalized into the state constitution.

      This is STOOPID!

    933. jason says:

      Wouldn’t it be awful if the GOP lost the House by one vote because AK seat went Dem?”

      Fortunately it is already Dem so it wouldn’t technically count as a loss.

      The Dem has gained votes. In the first election she got 40%. Now she is close to 50. She will win because some of Palin/Begich voters will rank her second out of spite for other R.

      Murk will win too. The Dem candidate’s second preference will go to her not Chewbacca.

      This election is decided.

      Will have to wait till 2024 to get rid of the Dem congresswoman.

    934. jason says:

      So I see NV passed ranked voting by nearly 53%. ”

      Elections have consequences.

      Who will be the first TDS moron here to blame Trump?

    935. jason says:

      . so Cow does not post what Cow posts that is of a differing view than jason’s.”

      Hey, Cow, this is another crock of crap.

      I never tried to prevent you from posting anything here, I have commended you on your posts many times on all sorts of subjects and I look forward to them. I hope you are still posting here for the next 1000 years.

      But as I pointed out above, there is no free lunch.

      Post BS (I know, easy for a cow) and you will be called on it.

    936. Cash Cow TM says:

      jason,

      I am sure you know the difference between literally and figuratively.

      ############################################
      Trump was LITERALLY on the ballot in 2016 and 2020.

      Cow opined that Trump [and his endorsements, policies, ideas, odd behavior, harsh statements and attacks, negative baggage, court cases involving him, Mary Largo and retrieved classified documents, and whether or not they believed the Dem/MSM tripe about Trump being a “threat to democracy!” (in the minds of many voters)] was also FIGURATIVELY on the ballot since Cow felt those things were IN/ON THE MINDS OF SOME SLICE OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED in 2018 and 2022.

      *************************************************
      I thought what I wrote made that clear concerning what I posited and posted. I am pretty sure everyone else on HHR knew what I was saying about Trump “being on the ballot in the minds of many voters.” Meaning on the ballot FIGURATIVELY.
      Sorta like making the 2022 election a kind of ‘referrendum’ on whether to continue more years of Biden/Dem goofiness by voting to send more Ds back to Congress or elect more [Trump endorsed; more Trump aligned as to policies] Rs to stop the Biden/Dem insanity.

      Biden was also not literally on the ballot in 2022. But in many voters’ eyes Biden and his policies, Exec. Orders, behavior, goofy statements, endorsements, connection to Hunter Biden, etc. WERE FIGURATIVELY “on the ballot” in the minds of millions of people who voted in the 2022 election.

      And many what many voters thought about Biden–whether they thought good things or bad things–had Biden and continuation of his policies on their minds when they voted, and it impacted HOW they voted. It played a part in whether they voted FOR the Biden Dem candidates, or AGAINST them and voted for Rs instead.

      My apologies if what Cow posted confused you.
      **********************************************

      I know.
      You think none of those things about Trump [or Biden] made any difference to any voters R or D when they voted in 2022.

      Cow thinks all those things DID make a difference in how people–Rs Ds, Indys–and played a part in whether they voted for a stinking D or a R who would save the country from self-destruction and stop the Biden/Dem insanity.

      You will never ascribe to my view on the matter.
      That is OK with me.

      Cow will never ascribe to your view on the matter.
      Is that OK with you?

      Have a blessed day!

    937. jason says:

      Fair enough Cow.

      It is ok with me.

    938. Tgca says:

      957

      Have a blessed day?

      Did you mean:

      Bless your heart Jadon?

    939. Cash Cow TM says:

      Ranked voting.

      LOL
      *******************************************
      What an abomination to the voting system.
      Right up there with “early voting”.

      Right up there with “Let’s just mail out ballots to everyone and give them 2 months to fill the out and return them. Nah, we will close one eye to the LAWS OF THE STATE and accept them whether they have a date on them or not, whether they have a matching signature or not, whether they have a signature at all or not.

      Fraud rears it’s ugly head in many forms.

      AND ONCE A STATE STARTS DOING ANY OF THESE GOOFY THINGS, THEY WILL NEVER UNDO THEM.

    940. NYCmike says:

      “Anyone who wants to deny aid to these people should be ashamed of themselves.

      Look at the morale of these soldiers.”

      -This is a NOT a serious argument.

      Did you see the morale of the Taliban last August? Do they deserve more aid?

      American interests should be the rationale for giving aid. And those interests should be clearly spelled out and re-evaluated constantly.

    941. NYCmike says:

      “I am sure you know the difference between literally and figuratively.”

      -Facts not in evidence.

    942. NYCmike says:

      https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1591087135603720192

      -jason to change his mind about VBM in 3…..2……1…..

    943. Cash Cow TM says:

      “AND ONCE A STATE STARTS DOING ANY OF THESE GOOFY THINGS, THEY WILL NEVER UNDO THEM.”
      #########################################

      Related story to show the TRUTH of this statement:

      In 1990, the federal EPA instituted MS4 (MUNICIPAL Separate Storm Sewer System [MS4]). Municipalities (CITIES) with a population OF 100,000 or more and served by a MUNICIPAL SEPARATE storm sewer system (MS4) were regulated.

      MS4 was DESIGNED to cover CITIES with pop. of 100K or higher.

      About 10 or So years ago, when BC population edged over 100,000 in population, the Berkeley County Commission (then numbering 3 elected people) voted to have Berkeley COUNTY to join the EPA MS4 system and were quickly accepting into the group.

      MS4 was set up for CITIES.
      NO COUNTY in America has ever applied to willingly join and be covered under EPA MS4 rules.

      MS4 was for CITIES that had a CITY-WIDE SYSTEM TO HANDLE STORMWATER.

      Berkeley County (WV) did NOT (and still does not) HAVE a COUNTY-WIDE stormwater system.

      Once BC joined, then the EPA rules kicked in.
      EPA said MS4 member MUNICIPALITIES must have a stormwater sewer system of pipes and stormwater treatment plants covering their whole political jurisdiction.

      Since BC has no such thing, the EPA under MS4 rules said you have to install a COUNTY WIDE storm water sewer system or we will fine you a gazillion dollars a day.

      BC commissioners: We have anywhere close to enough money to put in a county-wide storm water management system costing fifty-eleven gazillion dollars.

      MS4: Very well. Then we will fine you a gazillion dollars a day. There is one thing you can do instead. Institute an annual “RAIN TAX” on all citizens in your county. You can say that you have at least established a revenue stream toward raising money to put in the fifty-eleven gazillion dollar county-wide system. Putting in a rain tax will cause the gazillion dollars a day fine to go away.

      BC commissioners: Our citizens will be livid! We can’t do that. We want to leave the MS4 and not be a member anymore.

      MS4: The rules say once you join, YOU CAN NEVER UNJOIN. You are in MS4 forever. Prepare to pay a gazillion dollars a day in fines. GFY.

      BC commissioners: OK. we will institute a Rain Tax on every property in the county.

      Like the HOTEL CALIFORNIA!
      You can never leave…

    944. Cash Cow TM says:

      “We have anywhere close to enough money to put in a county-wide storm water management system…”

      OOPSY.

      We DON’T have anywhere…

    945. Tgca says:

      Noonan says:

      There will be other candidates for president, including Mr. DeSantis, who turned Florida red.

      TURNED FLORIDA RED!

      What a crock of chit! Floreedah was already solidly RED long before Ronaldo, The Italian Warrior came along.

      She routinely writes puff pieces geared towards suburban white woman but maybe she should check her facts first.

      She’s purposely being misleading and trying to anoint DeSanctimonius as she snubs MAGA supporters and calls non-MAGA GOP supporters NORMAL Republicans, as if MAGA supporters are NOT normal. How condescending!

      Here are the FACTS!

      Prior to the midterms, in Floreedah, the GOP:

      Held the gubbernorship (for 6 consecutive terms)
      Held every statewide office except Agriculture Secretary
      Held 2 US Senate seats
      Held 16 of 27 US House seats
      Held 24 of 40 State Senate seats Held 78 of 120 State House seats
      Has all GOP appointed justices on the State Supreme Court

      If that’s not already a solidly RED state, I don’t know what is.

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/maybe-republicans-will-finally-learn-trump-election-denial-desantis-florida-defeat-2020-2024-primary-normie-11668121391?mod=djemalertNEWS

    946. NYCmike says:

      “Floreedah was already solidly RED long before Ronaldo, The Italian Warrior came along.”

      -No, it wasn’t “solidly RED”.

    947. NYCmike says:

      But I would say it is now…….although the next person they pick after Desantis will be very important to maintain that.

    948. Tgca says:

      I remember when Noonan would routinely get her clit all swollen and moist for Obama and now it appears she’s after DeSanctimonius.

      What a Friggin’ Cougar!

      Writes based on her loins instead of her brain.

      She’s part of establishment GOP that looks down on the working class, implying they’re not NORMAL conservatives or Republicans.

      Oh, that’s not elitist. Not at all.

    949. Tgca says:

      968

      I suggest you look at the partisan offices above I outlined.

      Floreedah has been a red state for quote some time. DeSanctimonius did NOT turn it red!

      Floridians have been voting statewide for the GOP for years.

    950. Tgca says:

      I guess KY is not a red state because it has a Dem gubbernor.

      I guess Montana is not a red state because it has a Dem senator

      I guess MD and MA were not blue states because they had GOP gubbernors.

      Is that your logic?

    951. Dylan says:

      TG—thanks for beating me to comment about Peggy’s lady parts I was however just about to write a post but it had a much dryer dessicated and rancid theme about her Elitist nether parts

    952. NYCmike says:

      “Is that your logic?”

      -No, my logic was that on a federal level, it is still pretty much a state the GOP has to worry about every 4 years for President.

    953. Tgca says:

      973. Dylan

      Just doing my part to clear up disinformation out there.

      I see she posted this article on her Twitter too.

      Shouldn’t she be suspended from Twitter for DISINFORMATION on Floreedah.

    954. VictrC says:

      Hey, TGCA chill on the Italian cracks or I’m going to have to involve the new Nevada law of equality on ya… 😉

      Kidding aside, the left /establishment R (who are now one in the same) are pushing Rocky Balboa for one reason, to upset Trump and MAGA voters. Their vitriol will be pointed to, and unleashed on him, again when he’s no longer useful in fermenting a GOP civil war. Tbh I believe they will hate hi, as much as Trump…btw, whomever becomes the nominee (it could be a trans woman, POC, who had 40 abortion and voted socialist the year before and they will still call that persona racist bigot) will bear just as much vitriol as Trump or Rocky, or Noem or Scott or Haley..

    955. VictrC says:

      Invoke not involve

    956. Tgca says:

      974

      DeSantis had nothing to do with federal presidential elections in the past.

      We are talking about the state level.

      Noonan said DeSantis turned Floreedah RED. Absolutely BS! Floreedah is already RED and has been for years.

      North Carolina, Georgia, Ohio all voted for Dems in federal elections, are they not RED states.

    957. BayernFan says:

      Laxalt signals he lost.

    958. Tgca says:

      976

      I have some Italian bloodline as well just like I’m an AA Caucasian male so I can’t be racist!

    959. Tgca says:

      I love watching this video periodically where Clinton caught lying numerous times about being under sniper fire in Bosnia.

      Listen to how she tries to explain WHY she misspoke on a number of occasions with the same BS story.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfaxA9Q-9AQ

    960. VictrC says:

      Can we discuss the path to 218 because that now seems the only way to slow down Biden and the cult of misfits he leads.

      Btw this is the biggest legacy of Obama. He empowered the weak to go out and shame anyone who disagrees with their choices. No one likes to be publicly shamed and with the internet it’s so easy to do…and it’s forever. You lose your jobs, your friends, your family, over any breach of the far left doctrine now (reminds me of the German side of america in man in the High Castle).

      Back to 218
      Who do we think will win, and whose in trouble

    961. Tina says:

      National retreat online

      Mitchie is not the problem.

      Vance is not the future

      https://twitter.com/loganclarkhall/status/1591246938409955328/photo/1

    962. Tina says:

      No clue where he is at,

      Joe Biden Begins Summit in Cambodia by Thanking the ‘Prime Minister of Colombia’

    963. jason says:

      Did you see the morale of the Taliban last August? Do they deserve more aid?”

      Did NYC just compare the Ukrainians to the Taliban?

      This is not even the stupidest comment of the year, I think we need to nominate it for stupidest of the decade.

    964. jason says:

      NYCmike says:
      November 12, 2022 at 11:08 am

      https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1591087135603720192

      -jason to change his mind about VBM in 3…..2……1….”

      Nah, when an idiot like Rand Paul agrees with me I shake it off and move on.

      Like I do when a moron like NYC agrees with me.

      Life goes on.

    965. jason says:

      Tgca, I am sure the country club Rs will LOVE Noonan’s article as she prostates herself before the Golden Calf.

    966. jason says:

      Bonchie thinks Rs need to adopt the “if you can’t beat them join them” on VBM and EV.

      I think it is political suicide.

      https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/11/12/heres-the-big-thing-that-must-change-in-2024-for-republicans-to-win-n658013

    967. NYCmike says:

      “Did NYC just compare the Ukrainians to the Taliban?”

      -No.

      I showed your ridiculous statement about “good morale” being a reason to aid someone as just that, ridiculous.

      If their was a video shown with low morale, would we turn tail? I wouldn’t. Maybe you would…..

    968. Wes says:

      You are a master of strawman arguments, Tg. Your post in 931 literally says exactly nothing but a bunch of self-serving word salad. It is simplistic and emotional, lacks depth, and is quite honestly a farcical argument.

    969. Tina says:

      Interesting piece here. Looks like the backlash is now directed at the idiots in leadership.

      https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/11/12/the-trump-backlash-might-already-be-fading-00066608

    970. BayernFan says:

      988….

      It’s suicide to not get with it vis a vis early and mail in voting. It’s no longer about persuading people, it’s about collecting ballots.

      You have a month to do so…. so do it. The other side is.

    971. Tina says:

      Hopefully, the Trumpian Governor elect of nv can do something about these mail in ballots.

    972. Country Dick Montana says:

      The more I think about it the less concerned I become. Really, what can the Democrats in Washington do that actually personally affects our lives. Our state and local governments probably have more influence on how we live

      I am just getting on with life. Whatever happens is not my problem anymore. Coming here to argue will be fun, just a game now.

    973. VictrC says:

      I have two sons that are 7 and about to be 9. The policies, the propaganda, the executive orders, the miscreants they put in executive office positions affect my children

      I will stay involved because it matters to them. What kind if country are they going to grow up in. Let’s face it, they are going to be targets in the Obama/biden America

    974. Bitterlaw says:

      I’m with you, VC. Never stop fighting the Dems. I thought CDM was stronger than that but I hope he at least keeps catching fish.

    975. jason says:

      I showed your ridiculous statement about “good morale” being a reason to aid someone as just that, ridiculous.”

      You are an idiot. The fact the Ukrainians have good morale and are committed to defending their country IS an excellent reason to support them. It means our aid is being put to good use by deserving people.

      Of course you compared the Ukrainians to Taliban terrorists, so I am sure you wouldn’t understand.

    976. jason says:

      If their was a video shown with low morale, would we turn tail?”

      Not necessarily, but it could be a sign the will to fight was lagging.

      Besides, having good supplies and modern weapons is probably one reason the Ukrainians have high morale.

      GFY.

    977. Gordon Allen says:

      TgCA. Still would like you to man up and let us know your beef w DeSantis.
      Who are you FOR? Nikki Haley? Mike Pence? Ted Cruz. Trump??,qent up 600,000
      Clinton and Obama won twice in Florida btw.From 2018 until 2022 the GOP,down nearly 300,0000 voters went up 300,0000,a 600 000 vote swing in DeSantis first term.
      Who has won a statewide race by 20 points as a Republican, or by 1,500 000 votes since Reagan,or close to it.
      You’re chasing fruit flies on this.
      Until this year Florida has for years been known as a ” swing state; is it now?
      Don’t dig a hole and keep digging further like some here do.

    978. jason says:

      It’s suicide to not get with it vis a vis early and mail in voting. It’s no longer about persuading people, it’s about collecting ballots.

      You have a month to do so…. so do it.”

      Why? So the Dems have more time to discard/tamper with them?

      Here is the deal. If Rs don’t stop VBM and no excuse EV they are not winning many elections in states where the Dems have the infrastructure to steal. Clark Co. Philadelphia. Detroit. Atlanta. Milwaukee, etc.

      If Rs try to emulate Ds on VBM and EV the Dems will thank them for their stupidity.

    979. jason says:

      Damm… missed the M.

    980. jason says:

      Btw, what ever happened to Diamond Jim?

    981. jason says:

      Jeff Charles at Redstate is not drinking the “blame Trump” Koolaid.

      “Nevertheless, the idea that Trump is to blame for the outcome doesn’t hold water. As I wrote previously, the GOP failed to implement an effective messaging strategy to use against the Democrats. They were wise to attack Biden and other Democratic politicians on issues like inflation, crime, immigration, and other areas in which the left has failed to provide viable solutions.

      However, they failed to provide voters with alternative solutions to the problems everyday Americans are facing. They did not articulate what they would bring to the table to ease the economic burdens people are experiencing. The “we’re not Democrats” strategy was never going to move enough people to bring about the red wave Republicans sought.

      There are plenty of lessons to learn from the 2022 midterm elections. But playing the blame game will only ensure that the GOP repeats the same mistakes in the future.”

    982. jason says:

      Until this year Florida has for years been known as a ” swing state; is it now?”

      So the Golden Calf is the only one who gets credit?

      The guy who was responsible for the creation of the Golden Calf gets none?

      The guy who won FL twice, the second time by a greater margin, after Obama carried it twice gets no credit?

      The guy who turned FL red is named Donald Trump. The Golden Calf inherited and cemented it.

      TDS is a sad disease.

    983. Country Dick Montana says:

      Bitter – how are going to fight? Keep voting GOP? In PA?

      Yeah that will work. Maybe it will or won’t. Either way you personally are not affected. Tell me how it personally affects you? That they will spend more money that they don’t have? After $31 trillion. You think Mitch is going to save you?

      And Victr, your kids will adapt and adopt what they are taught. They are resilientt.

      The country has changed so we all need to adapt and act accordingly.

    984. Wes says:

      It’s Flavor Aid, not Kool Aid, Jason.

      I’m curious as to why you and Tg have such a problem with DeSantis. He did nothing but win and cement Florida’s status as a GOP-trending state.

      That obviously is a problem for you since you’re making sure to attack him as a golden calf at every turn.

    985. Tina says:

      Andrew “Leaked Majority Opinion” Kolvet
      @AndrewKsay
      ·
      20m
      The main issue is ballot harvesting and no-excuse universal mail in ballots. Republicans need to spend big cultivating harvesting operations in key districts across the country where it’s legal until they have enough power to outlaw it, along with no-excuse mail ins

    986. jason says:

      I would strongly advise the Golden Calf not to let himself get defined as a Peggy Noonan Republican.

      He has been endorsed by the Lincoln Project. Anyone here who thinks that is a plus for him is a moron.

      The Golden Calf is being commended for not responding to Trump’s “attacks” (not really attacks).

      That is also a mistake.

      Here is what I would say:

      “I hear President Trump said I was an average governor. I take that to heart and hope to always improve. I am grateful to President Trump for helping launch my political career and for implementing policies as President that have greatly helped Floridians. I share many of President Trump’s priorities and will continue to do so.”

      Don’t get dragged into being the anti-Trump R candidate. That will not work out well.

    987. jason says:

      That obviously is a problem for you since you’re making sure to attack him as a golden calf at every turn.”

      Zzzzzz…

      I already I am calling him the Golden Calf to mock those that act like he is one.

      I have nothing against the Golden Calf, I hope he is the nominee and the future of the R party. And contrary to Tgca (and Trump) I think he has been a great governor of FL, not average.

      I do have serious reservations about how many here are framing his potential candidacy, and I do have serious concerns that people are (wrongly) assuming his popularity in FL automatically translates to votes elsewhere. Finally, I think disparaging Trump and his voters as a way to promote the Golden Calf is stupid and self defeating.

    988. SoHope says:

      Trump stealing 90% of all “joint fundraising efforts for Hershel Walker.

      Trump is a net negative for the GOP now a political leach.

    989. Bitterlaw says:

      CDM – You moved to fully blue Maryland so you can GFY with your condemnation of PA. Let’s be honest. Unless you have a business or school age children, most of us are not very affected by the Dem disaster except for inflation and gas prices. I still work 6 days a week no matter who is in office.

      Stay on the sidelines. I care more about what VC has to say anyway. He owns a very large company with global clients and has school aged children..

    990. Bitterlaw says:

      Every campaign is a leap of faith. In 2015, how many of us expected a billionaire Democrat would not only win the Republican nomination but enough voters to be elected President? None.

    991. Country Dick Montana says:

      “He owns a very large company with global clients and has school aged children..”

      That means that he is a smart guy and will adapt to the situation.

      And I have grandchildren.

      They say when caught in a riptide at the beach, the worst thing that you can do is try to fight it. It carries you further out, you get tired, frustrated, weak and eventually drown. The best thing to do is go with it while swimming to the side until you are out, then swim back in with the tide. If the country changes, then I swim back in.

    992. jason says:

      Bitter admits the Golden Calf might be a leap of faith?

      Baby steps, baby steps.

    993. jason says:

      I think it is hilarious that all the TDS morons here who are insulting Trump and calling him names have their feathers ruffled and panties tied up in a wad over “Golden Calf”.

      You ninnies better man up and gird your loins, if the Golden Calf is the nominee he is going to be called a lot worse than that.

    994. jason says:

      Trump stealing 90% of all “joint fundraising efforts for Hershel Walker”

      Zzzzzz….

      I hear he personally ordered the hurricane that hit Florida and is now working on a volcano which will erupt sometime in the future.

    995. Country Dick Montana says:

      Oh, and Bitter, Where I lives is “Between the Waters.” There are lots of places like that on the east coast and I am here because Mrs. CDM likes it. I still own the little patch in Texas (which she doesn’t like.)

    996. jason says:

      It’s Flavor Aid, not Kool Aid, Jason”

      Never heard of it.

      I thought the Jonestown people drank Kool-Aid mixed with cyanide and that’s where the expression came from.

      See what you miss not growing up in America?

    997. SoHope says:

      What’s next a joint fundraising email to cure cancer but keep 99% of the proceeds for himself?

    998. jason says:

      Are you sure it is only 99%? Go for 105%! We know you want to.

    999. jason says:

      Maricopa intends to drop more results at 8pm local. Most of the outstanding ballots are from vote rich GOP strongholds in the East Valley past Gilbert Rd. and north of loop 101. Probably worth a point or two to the overall total for GOP slate.”

      Hope springs eternal.

    1000. SoHope says:

      Trump on GoFundMe:
      This is little Timmy. He has a cleft palate. We need to raise $10 million for his surgery. Well to be clear the surgery is only $5,000. The other $9,995,000 goes to Trump. He’s got to get his beak wet.

    1001. Wes says:

      The Jonestown people definitely drank Flavor-Aid rather than Kool-Aid, Jason:

      https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/5/23/8647095/kool-aid-jonestown-flavor-aid

    1002. jason says:

      SoHope are you sure you can’t come up with something better than “stealing funds”. Come on, man, you can improve on that. Nothing new on Stormy Daniels? Russian pee tape? Dig deeper, you will find something.

    1003. jason says:

      Interesting wes, but I think drinking the Kool-Aid is here to stay. Flavor-Aid just isn’t as cool….

    1004. SoHope says:

      “Stealing” as in being a dirtbag co-oping a the urgent need for funds in a runoff that determines the Senate and funneling it to himself. It’s fully illegal but proves he’s only in it for himself.

    1005. SoHope says:

      Correction – it’s fully LEGAL

    1006. jason says:

      There is a rumor, I am sure SoHope will be able to verify, that Mar El Lago has a dungeon with labs and installations for organ harvesting of homeless people, which Trump then sells to China at great profit. He is investing the proceeds in a mega project to melt the Greenland Ice Cap so he can then short the real estate market in Florida.

    1007. jason says:

      it’s fully LEGAL”

      Yeah, come on man, I am sure you can find something illegal.

      Try harder.

      Put that terminal TDS to work.

    1008. jason says:

      Hey SoHope, I have given $200 to Walker, despite my desire to stop funding candidates. How much have you given?

    1009. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason should find the post where I said that DeSantis was guaranteed to win the WH or GFH. Of course, he won’t so he should GFH and save time searching.

    1010. SoHope says:

      I don’t believe you’ve given a penny to the Walker runoff much less $200. I haven’t given a penny to Walker. Im here in Vegas spending it on hookers and blow and wildly overpriced cocktails (mostly the last one) But I don’t claim to be the leader of the GOP while diverting 90% of money given to Walker’s runoff to myself.

    1011. SoHope says:

      https://twitter.com/stuntactor/status/1591544945391046656?t=OopEBpmMZIS0I5hFR-dgXQ&s=19

      In case you’re denying the Trump grift on the Walker runoff claim and need proof

    1012. Bitterlaw says:

      My 79 year old barber now has an oxygen mask and has to take a 10 minute break between customers. He may also have liver cancer. Might have to start finding a backup. It will be difficult to find somebody who can the use clippers for my fine buzz cut.

    1013. Tina says:

      It’s over for laxalt

      Jacob Solis
      @jacobsolisnv
      ·
      2h
      Culinary Union spokesperson says the union’s ballot cure outreach has reached 5,100 people

      (Of note: more than 7,000 people have cured their ballots in Clark, a little more than 7,000 remain)

    1014. JeffP says:

      1034 SoHope I got one of those emails. Saw that and I unsubscribed. He grifted off January 6th too.

    1015. Tina says:

      Is there anything from the gop-e on Arizona or nevada?

      Disastrous leadership here.

    1016. Dylan says:

      No Laxalt ballots to “cure”?? Jesus The gop is lagging on every possible metric. Who are the GOPe leaders who would even address this stuff?

    1017. gameboy says:

      #1040

      I don’t think “cure” is the proper word for what they are doing. “create” is more like it.

      So long as the populace let them continue to steal these things they will keep doing it.

      #1039

      The GOP leadership has no interest in a Lake victory. The leadership is happy with the status quo and have no interest is getting anyone in there who would upset the gravy train.

    1018. Country Dick Montana says:

      If the GOP were a sports team what they are doing is called tanking. Most time a team tanks to build a better team. In this case all they are doing is being the Pittsburgh Pirates yams simply trying to keep their individual perks.

      Just stay home. They are not worth your time, money or vote any more.

    1019. Wes says:

      Gameboy, the status quo is a GOP Governor in AZ.

    1020. Livinthedream says:

      Billions will be spent on 2024 and yet it will come down to 6 states (Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and maybe Virginia) and a district in Maine. You can pencil all of the other stated in now for blue or red.

      The GOP will have to win 5 of these states. If Lake wins, the GOP will have at least a GOP governor in 5 of them.

      Regardless of who is the GOP nominee this is the uphill terrain. Fla, Ohio and Iowa are very red and it seems PA and Michigan have demonstrated a blue turn with great ability to capture ballots.

    1021. gameboy says:

      #1044

      That’s my point LOL The current gov is part of the corruption.

      #1043 I love the Pittsburgh Pirate analogy!! Spot on…..

    1022. Tina says:

      Curing and creating should not be allowed after the election period. This is gaming the system.

    1023. gameboy says:

      I see AZ has reported another dump. Hobbs is starting to run away with it. I’m thinking they will call it tonight if another big dump comes in for Hobbs.

    1024. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      Indiana University of Pennsylvania today defeat the nationally ranked Shepherd University Rams football team 21-24.

      I do not have any details yet.
      I do not know if this knocks Shepherd out of the national playoffs. Maybe it does. Hope not.

      Yet another reason for me to hate PA.

      I can do that better now since my sister moved from Lemoyne PA to New Hampshire back in Feb.
      Sis lived in PA for almost 60 years.

    1025. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      *Last week, the National Park Service posted on Facebook to ask visitors not to lick the Sonoran desert toads. These toads are also known as “psychedelic toads,” for the hallucinogenic effects the toxins can have.

      The post from the National Park Service warned visitors that the toxins can make you sick, especially if they get in your mouth. According to the Oakland Zoo, the toxins are potent enough to paralyze or sometimes even kill dogs.”

    1026. BayernFan says:

      With Laxalt losing, The Dems have clinched control of the Senate with 50 seats, and stand to win an outright majority of 51 with Walker’s upcoming loss.

      The dems continue edging toward a House majority. They are now up to 204 seats. GOP is stuck on 211. Joe Kent lost.

    1027. Bitterlaw says:

      Soccer is not a sport. BF is a douche. Both can be true.

    1028. Tina says:

      Lake nets 3000 votes from maricopa

      The experts say that this was the leftover from the blue precincts.

      There is still a lot out.

    1029. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      961. “American interests should be the rationale for giving aid. And those interests should be clearly spelled out and re-evaluated constantly.”

      Agree to a point. But when you agree to provide a country military support, you don’t just cut and run in mid-battle — particularly when the side you support is winning.

      There are some indications that the threats by some Republicans to cut-off aid to the Ukraine was a factor in increased Democratic turnout.

    1030. Bitterlaw says:

      For those keeping score at home, today is the 4th day BF has declared all the races over.

    1031. Tina says:

      U.S. Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Chris Magnus has resigned from his position, the White House says.

    1032. Tina says:

      Bush and Obama = redundant foreskin.

      aily Mail Online

      @MailOnline
      ·
      2h
      George W. Bush and Barack Obama will hold back-to-back disinformation conferences https://trib.al/BTfxBpA

    1033. Cash Cow TM says:

      OK.

      I guess we can add Az and NV to the states that ar solid D ECVs for 2024.

      Bye bye AZ and NV.

      It was fun when the Rs could depend on your votes.

      the path for ANY R in 2024 is so narrow I cannot see it.

    1034. Dylan says:

      But Lindsey Graham guaranteed Laxalt would win……..

    1035. Tina says:

      Josh Hawley

      @HawleyMO
      ·
      9m
      The old party is dead. Time to bury it. Build something new

    1036. Tina says:

      “Post Election Vote”

      Nate Cohn

      @Nate_Cohn
      ·
      9h
      The thing that keeps Democratic hopes alive is that they *are* gaining in the post-election vote in most districts. At the moment, just not by enough

    1037. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “PHOENIX, Nov 12 (Reuters) – Democrats will stay in control of the U.S. Senate next year after Democratic U.S. Senator Catherine Cortez Masto won re-election in Nevada,”

    1038. Tina says:

      Ny times calls controls of the house of republicans to the drats.

      More Piglosi

    1039. Tina says:

      House of Representatives to the Ds, per Ny times.
      Baris referenced this is one of his tweets recently.

    1040. Country Dick Montana says:

      Bingo was great tonight. A real act of political courage. Kind of like voting GOP in the Philly suburbs.

      But between games I realized what Trump is going to announce next week. He will be running for President, wait for it, as an Independent. No primary and no first tier Republican will run knowing that they will lose for sure. Liz Cheney will be the GOP candidate.

      And I agree with Josh Hawley, the current GOP is dead. It will take a few election cycles to get rid of the dead wood and then if things are really bad enough they might have a chance.

    1041. Tina says:

      How was the golden corral?

      One opened up near me, but they said it’s dirty.

      Not sure if I like the food.

      Fried chicken, whisy chicken, etc.

      Too much grease.

      I only like Las Vegas buffets.

    1042. Country Dick Montana says:

      Actually Tina, it’s all a joke since Bitter mocked my retirement as political courage. Given his epic fights with Gordy, he as something against people that have worked hard and can live without going to the office 6 days a week. Of course pipeline work is 7 days a week for weeks on end.

      Anyway, golden corrals are disgusting. Especially the all you can eat early birds in the southern states. Obesity and gluttony on parade. I avoid them.

    1043. Victrc says:

      I find it hard to believe the Dems get to 218. We have decent leads in 8 races and close in 3 more. Where do they keep the R’s to only winning 6 or less races?

    1044. Bitterlaw says:

      CDM is the one who made the posts about him retiring as if it was based on politics. He thinks his posts are like MLK’s Letter from the Birmingham jail or standing in front of a tank in Tianamen Square when he really just wanted to go fishing.

    1045. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      From NYT:

      “Historically, the president’s party gets trounced in midterm elections. But for the first time in the era of modern polling, dating to the 1930s, the party of a president with an approval rating below 50 percent (President Biden’s is in the low 40s) seems to have fared well. Democrats are favored to retain control of the Senate; they could even still hold on to the House.”

      A major issue was this election became in many ways a referendum on Trump more than Biden.

    1046. Tgca says:

      1070

      This election was not about Trump. He was not on the ticket. The vast majority of voters were not worried about Trump in this election.

      The Libs and Never Trumpers are using it as a distraction from Biden with the help of the MSM and Big Tech and you buy into it.

      If it was about Trump, the GOP would not have picked up seats in very blue NY and NJ or win the gubbernorship in very blue NV.

      Over 90% of incumbents won even though the GOP exceeded expectations and significantly surpassed the Dems in get out the vote.

      The BIG FAIL was due to:

      1. Poor GOP messaging and lack of targeted messaging to needed voters. Biden sucks appears to have been the only GOP message.

      2. General reliance on polls that were not accurate and therefore hurt the ability to better focus resources to win, including poor spending.

      3. The country is evenly divided so it was not realistic to expect the GOP expanding successfully in Dem leaning territories across the board. This is not 1980 or even 1990. Times have changed.

      4. A large percentage of people are vested more in leftist ideology and willing to accept the painful consequences – at least for now.

      5. Dems have gamed the system of continuous voting and VBM in their states like everyone getting a ballot in states like CA and NV. The GOP voting focuses on Election Day turnout.

    1047. Tgca says:

      999. Gordy

      I am not going to keep posting the same rationale to you because you lack comprehension.

      I voted for DeSanctimonius. I think he’s been a good gubbernor but he has not demonstrated GREATNESS and has not passed any earth shattering legislation in Floreedah that made people flock to him. His focus has been mainly on cultural issues that have gotten much press nationally.

      He benefitted from the pandemic with people moving here and Biden fatigue. Rubio did just as well as him in the election and won his election by nearly 17 points. It is absurd to think Rubio, a politician as well-known in Floreedah as Ronaldo latched onto any ones coattails, considering he has won his prior two elections very comfortably as well and was a DC darling and the favored establishment candidate for POTUS in 2016.

      DeSanctimonius handled the pandemic well but he is open to criticism as others are too. He did keep the state pretty much closed through the fall of 2020 like may other states with executive orders and other means, and many business operated at half capacity under his orders, and he provided public assistance through Sep of 2021 when people refused to work when they probably should have been cut off 6 months earlier. Gubbernor Noem did a much better job of keeping her state open and had high COVID infection rates, albeit with a smaller population. FL ranked 1st in large states with most COVID deaths per capital, more than both NY and CA even though the COVID wave did not hit FL until 3 months after NY so you could argue FL could have prepared better given 3 months notice.

      I also posted FL registration data that show other than 2020, a presidential year, the net registration in FL GOP is less than 100K under DeSanctimonius years. He can’t take credit for the nearly 500K increased GOP registrations in both 2016 and 2020 presidential election years because presidential, years always increase registrations. Therefore, nearly 100% of the GOP registration of approximately 900K had NOTHING to do with him or his policies. That is a statistical fact!

      All I’m trying to do is get people out of this ridiculous worship mode to accept his successes as well as mistakes.

    1048. Tgca says:

      The Federalist makes the point me and my vile meat-eating good friend Jadon make about voting practices being a leading cause of the GOP Little Red Ripple. I think they’ve been reading my posts here and stealing material for their articles.

      The Federalist:

      We really did see given all of the enthusiasm in the country that Republican leadership really failed Republican voters. Republican voters were excited. The — the ground was very fertile for a big Republican victory. Joe Biden’s approval was in the toilet. 75% of the country thinks we’re going in the wrong direction.

      I could not agree more with your opening where you talk about the importance of understanding that elections are not run anymore like they were in the 1980s. There is now extensive period of voting where people who are smart are running get out the vote operations every day, hauling in ballots every day.

      Republicans keep on thinking that election day is a single day and they think if they get everybody excited for that last day that that will be sufficient. That’s not sufficient. There needs to be an effective ground game that is on Republican leadership and there’s only so much that everybody else can do with their enthusiasm and everything else.

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/mollie-hemingway-explains-republicans-must-adapt-new-voting-practices-video/

    1049. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Real Clear Politics has declared Oregon CD-5 a GOP pick-up.

      Dem Jamie McLeod-Skinner 48.8%
      154,581
      checkmark GOP Lori Chavez-DeRemer 51.1%
      161,780

    1050. jason says:

      All I’m trying to do is get people out of this ridiculous worship mode to accept his successes as well as mistakes.”

      The Golden Calf worshipers can only accept his successes and only accept Trump’s mistakes.

      So good luck with that.

    1051. Tina says:

      Spitfire

      @DogRightGirl
      ·
      11h
      Just imagine if Trump’s 2nd largest donor was FTX and laundered money through Ukraine back to Republican campaigns.

      Just imagine.

    1052. jason says:

      The Federalist makes the point me and my vile meat-eating good friend Jadon make about voting practices being a leading cause of the GOP Little Red Ripple. I think they’ve been reading my posts here and stealing material for their articles.”

      There is only one problem with the “if you can’t beat them join them” on EV, VBM and ballot harvesting.

      The system is corrupt and designed for fraud. Look at the “ballot curing” BS in NV. If Laxalt loses by less than 10k votes it will be due to ballot curing. The culinary union admits it has “cured” thousands of ballots.

      Nevada mails out a ballot to every resident. There must be tens of thousands of ballots you can find mailed to people who moved, died, or just don’t want to vote (they have automatic DMV registration). I bet you could form a team of volunteers to go around and collect these ballots, fill them in and mail them. I bet this happens.

      In a lot of these states, Dem control this “machine” reminiscent of the old New York and Chicago machines, only modernized.

      “Joining” this corrupt system is not going to help Republicans.

    1053. jason says:

      Sometimes even vegetarian tree bark eating baby fish killing clowns have cogent posts.

      “The BIG FAIL was due to:

      1. Poor GOP messaging and lack of targeted messaging to needed voters. Biden sucks appears to have been the only GOP message.

      2. General reliance on polls that were not accurate and therefore hurt the ability to better focus resources to win, including poor spending.

      3. The country is evenly divided so it was not realistic to expect the GOP expanding successfully in Dem leaning territories across the board. This is not 1980 or even 1990. Times have changed.

      4. A large percentage of people are vested more in leftist ideology and willing to accept the painful consequences – at least for now.

      5. Dems have gamed the system of continuous voting and VBM in their states like everyone getting a ballot in states like CA and NV. The GOP voting focuses on Election Day turnout.”

      This is a rationale explanation vs “it is Trump’s fault”.

      Pretty much all close races went to the Dems. This happened nationwide, not just in a few races where Trump was involved. The Red Wave just wasn’t there, and blaming Trump for that is completely asinine.

    1054. jason says:

      Hmm…. rational not rationale. I blame the one room schoolhouse on the Altiplano. We had an old tattered English book… See Spot. See Spot run.

    1055. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “A new poll from YouGov provides further evidence for one of the most important narratives to emerge from the midterms: Florida governor Ron DeSantis is the frontrunner to top the GOP’s ticket in 2024.

      According to the survey of 413 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, 42 percent want DeSantis to be the party’s nominee two years from now, while 35 percent would prefer former president Donald Trump. It was conducted in the immediate aftermath of Tuesday’s disappointing returns for the GOP.”

    1056. jason says:

      BTw, Britt won in AL by 36 points.

      Oh and Grassley won by 13, so much for the Selzer Poll that showed him up by 3.

      Thune? Won by 44, sorry RINO hunters, you can eat his dust.

      Lee? Won by 13, sorry “this is going to be close” crowd.

      Schmitt also won by 13, underwhelming in MO considering he ran against a ditzy moron.

      The only close senate race Rs won was WI, Rojo only pulled it out by 26k votes. Important because if he had lost and Walker loses, the Dems could reform the filibuster without Sinema and Manchin.

    1057. jason says:

      According to the survey of 413 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents”

      Zzzzzzz…..

    1058. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Meanwhile, Putin is not doing well:

      “The loss of Kherson is on a par with Russia’s humiliating withdrawal from its positions outside the capital Kyiv earlier in the year, and caps a stunning three-month change of fortunes for the Ukrainians.

      Nothing has gone Russia’s way for months.

      They’ve lost huge swathes of territory in the east, the flagship of their Black Sea fleet has been sunk and a crucial bridge from Russia to occupied Crimea is still out of action.

      Now Russian forces have been forced to abandon the only provincial capital they had managed to capture since February’s full invasion.”

    1059. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “This was the end of the Trump era and the dawn of the DeSantis era,” a Republican operative close to Trump and his team told ABC News Wednesday after the midterms. “Like every other Trump catastrophe, he did this to himself with stupid and reckless decisions.””

    1060. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I am pinch-hitting for Robbie now. Notice he has disappeared? No praise for his new hero DeSantis? Robbie troll is getting his new talking points together, and will soon be posting how DeSantis is evil and rotten.

    1061. Tgca says:

      1079

      OMG! You’re bringing back such fond me pries of my “yoot” in the bee-yoo-tee-ful city of Newark.

      I haven’t thought of Dick, Jane and Spot for eons. I remember learning to read with them, and of course Ebonics.

      See Spot Run
      See Dick Run
      See Jane Run
      See Dick get Spot
      See Jane get Dick

    1062. Tina says:

      @KurtSchlichter
      ·
      54m
      Who in the
      @GOP
      loses his job over this disaster?

      If the answer in “No one” or “But it’s all Trump’s fault!,” get ready to lose again in 2024.

    1063. Tgca says:

      1080

      In the immediate aftermath of Jan 6, 2020, Trump was blamed for trying to overthrow the country and start an insurrection and he became persona non-grata to many in the GOP, politicians and voters alike, as his poll numbers plummeted.

      The GOP was meeting behind closed doors and people were clamoring for invoking the 25th Amendment.

      Less than a year later when the truth came out about J6, he was tje most popular GOPer in the country with the base and had astronomical approval ratings given the facts, and led nearly every poll by UUUUGE margins.

      Let’s see how this plays out. My gut feeling is people will see they were failed by the leadership.

      Conservative jourmalists are already STEALING my EXCELLENT analysis explaining the main drivers of the Little Red Ripple. instead of the Big Red Wave.

      More to come. Just you wait and see Bish!

    1064. Cash Cow TM says:

      Here is typical HORRIBLE headlines AND NEWS STORY that shows how PITIFUL the media is today in educating the public.

      HEADLINE

      “ABC NEWS

      The world has reached 8 billion people — but soon we’ll hit a decline we’ll never reverse”
      Yesterday [1:45 PM]

      REST of the story here:

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/australia/the-world-has-reached-8-billion-people-but-soon-we-ll-hit-a-decline-we-ll-never-reverse/ar-AA142CfW?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=895497b28d784b68811e21df488241cb

      ********************************************
      HIGHLIGHTS OF STORY:

      –Leads with:
      “This week, the world’s population ticks over a historic milestone. But in the next century, society will be reshaped dramatically — and soon we’ll hit a decline we’ll never reverse.”

      Then lots of non-substantiating drivel including:

      –“the Earth’s population is growing quickly, the growth rate is starting to slow down. Eventually, it will start falling and our societies will shrink.”

      –“The UN’s latest projections, released earlier this year, suggest the world will house about 9.7 billion humans in 2050.”

      –“From there, it’s set to plateau for a couple of decades, before falling around the turn of the 22nd century.”

      –“But the range of reasonable possibilities in 2100 is considerably wider, between 8.9 and 12.4 billion.”
      ___________________________
      And they supply NO SUPPORTING EVIDENCE to the headline that says SOON we will see a decline that we will never reverse, says that by year 2100 (78 years from now) experts say we will have a world population of SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 8.9B to 12.4B people. And 8.9 Billion in HIGHER than the current 8B population–not lower.

      So “SOON” means SOMETIME AFTER AT LEAST 78 YEARS MINIMUM.

      NOWHERE does the reporter say ANYTHING about a steady decline in world pop., WHEN that would begin, nor ANY proposed reasons for same.
      #############################################

      THIS REPORTER SHOULD BE HORSEWHIPPED.

    1065. Tgca says:

      HA! HA!

      Watch this video from 2018 where Holder stated you can’t be SeC of State and also running for gubbernor. It’s classic.

      Eric silent on Katie Hobbs though.

      Former AG Eric Holder in 2018:

      Kemp is “trying to rig the system” by not resigning as Secretary of State while running for governor

      This was a rally with Stacey Abrams, Barack Obama, and John Lewis

      HE claimed:

      It’s not right
      It’s not fair.
      You can’t do both.
      He should resign.
      He’s trying to rig the system.

      https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1591172219690168320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1591463075554775043%7Ctwgr%5Ee8303161408ed28a031731df8b92f27bbd58cdcd%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fremember-when-eric-holder-accused-katie-hobbs-of-rigging-the-election%2F

    1066. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Missing ballots found in New Jersey county
      Rachel Schilke – 1h ago”

      “Paper ballots had to be used after a software glitch rendered the Dominion electronic voting machines unusable.”

      “DOMINION VOTING MACHINES STOP WORKING IN NEW JERSEY COUNTY”

      “The ballots from one of the four districts were recorded as having arrived at the Board of Elections office, while records show the office never received ballots from the remaining three.”

      “A small number of additional ballots were also found inside voting machines that were opened on Thursday after Superior Court Judge William Anklowitz signed an order allowing the machines to be opened.”

      Imagine that!

      ******************************
      LOL

    1067. Cash Cow TM says:

      Donald Trump once said he could shoot someone in the middle of times Square and his supporters would still vote for him.

      Well, it seems that Joe Biden can almost literally drive America over a cliff and D and I voteres will still vote for him (and his cliff diving policies).

    1068. Cash Cow TM says:

      GOVERNING.COM

      “Democrats Defy the Odds to Score Gains in Legislatures
      The party took control of both chambers in Michigan and the Minnesota Senate. This may be the first time the president’s party has gained legislative seats in 20 years.”

      I heard reports that the Ds in AZ took control in both AZ House and Senate.

      For further depressing news you can go to:

      https://www.governing.com/now/democrats-defy-the-odds-to-score-gains-in-legislatures?utm_campaign=Newsletter%20-%20GOV%20-%20Daily&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=233286116&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9vliQT4ZR4rJYj_Z0QxDnETfQfvDFIkwUBC6VGvnkdwLr9tRheyh17E67wdhoJ9cyOFEbkb1G6oH3LfD4xbHBgG-NnPA&utm_content=233286116&utm_source=hs_email

    1069. Cash Cow TM says:

      “At least 11 women are poised to win governorships following Tuesday’s election, a record number.”

      8 Ds
      3 Rs

    1070. eriepa says:

      Pa GOP may lose the state house of representatives. due to the screws put to them through redistricting. BTW approved by the state supreme court. Comes down to 2 races one r leads by 12 votes, the other d leads by 2 votes. What left is the undated ballots and if they will be counted. You know how that will go.

      But it gets better, one of the Dems who won is dead, 2 others have won Congressional seats.So 3 state house seats will be vacant. Special elcetions in 2023.

    1071. jason says:

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      November 13, 2022 at 10:01 am

      I am pinch-hitting for Robbie now. Notice he has disappeared? No praise for his new hero DeSantis? Robbie troll is getting his new talking points together, and will soon be posting how DeSantis is evil and rotten.”

      Good job.

      Have you called the Golden Calf a clown, a total bum and a Trump Clone yet?

    1072. Wobbles says:

      Who is Desantis?

    1073. jason says:

      Here is the deal. Whatever our differences if the Golden Calf is the nominee we will all be supporting him here.

      Except for Amoral Scumbag and the Biden Troll of course.

      You can bet no MSM sordid baseless despicable attack on the Golden Calf will be too low for Amoral Scumbag to regurgitate here.

      Here is the M.O. It will start with something like “he is running a bad campaign”….”he needs to change strategy”….”His advisors are incompetent” ..”He should fire his staff”….”the Dem candidate is formidable and awesome, unfortunately”…”he is catering to white trash deplorables instead of blue blood elitists”….”Lord Asshat predicts the Dem will win handily, all is lost”…

    1074. Cash Cow TM says:

      Did you know that the letters in
      “election irregularities”

      can be rearranged to spell:

      “DEMOCRATS WIN EVERY TIME”
      **********************************

      Ame is true about rearranging the letters in
      “mail-in ballots”

      “DEMOCRATS WIN EVERY TIME”
      *************************************
      LOL

      LO-friggin’-L

    1075. jason says:

      I remember when Amoral Scumbag spent a year here trying to convince everyone that McConnell would lose to a brainless twit like Allison Grimes, who he claimed was awesome and formidable.

      At the end, he did his usual adjustment and predicted McConnell would win by 6.

      Of course, McConnell won by 15.

      “• Robbie says:
      October 6, 2014 at 11:53 am
      18.“I have repeatedly said McConnell’s unpopularity after a 30 year”
      Probably like 1,000 times, but he keeps getting re-elected.
      I know it drives you crazy.
      When he wins again, be sure to come back here and tell us how unpopular he is.
      Comment by jason — October 6, 2014 @ 11:50 am
      You and other claims this will be a blowout. Fine. I hope you’re right. I am saying his popularity is the reason the polls don’t show this race is a blowout and it’s why I think his margin of victory will be about 6 points rather than 10 points.”

      McConnell 806,000
      Mindless Twit 584,000

    1076. BayernFan says:

      Once states get a Dem legislature and Governor, they will pass election laws that require ballots be mailed to everyone. And that will cement Dem election wins forever. John Fund warned us of this 15 years ago.

      It’s over.

    1077. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      (Probably) good news from CA Cd-27. This sounds like a 3/4 concession from Christ Smith(D):

      Christy Smith
      @ChristySmithCA
      ·
      1h

      US House candidate, CA-27

      @ChristySmithCA
      Sadly though, the path for flipping #CA27 has narrowed significantly and when all the votes are in it’s likely Garcia holds the seat.

      Nevertheless, there are lessons to be learned from this race that I’m determined to put on the record…2/

    1078. BayernFan says:

      At the earliest opportunity, the Dems will enact national election laws that require all states to have unsolicited mail in ballots sent to voters, all mail in voting, ballot harvesting, drop boxes, etc.

      They already tried a year ago, but failed bc of Manchin I believe, But with 51 or 52 in the Senate, and a Dem House, they will end the filibuster to do this. It will be well worth it, bc they would never be in the minority again.

    1079. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Let’s see who agrees with me.

      “If all else fails in the near future, SCOTUS will serve as the one institution to curb the Democrats’ unconstitutional legislation and executive overreach”.

    1080. eriepa says:

      Cant be a 52 seat senate , if Walker loses 51 seat Dem. Sinema already stated she opposes changing the filibuster.

      The House still seems ontrack to be slightly R control. Also any national election law will be challenged and end up in SCOTUS.

    1081. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      Shepherd University football team will still be in the NCAA DII playoffs.

      *****************************************

      SU is ranked #2 in Super Region 2 and will host New Haven (CT). IUP–who beat Shepherd and won the PSIAC championship is the #1 seed in Super Region 2.

      IUP gets a bye.

    1082. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Let’s see who agrees with me.

      “If all else fails in the near future, SCOTUS will serve as the one institution to curb the Democrats’ unconstitutional legislation and executive overreach”.”
      *****************************
      I (for one) disagree. The left hates the constitution and feels it is an antiquated piece of paper that should be torn up or at least ignored. The left will say (corrrectly) that:

      “the constitution does not say ther3 has to be 9 (or any number) members. It used to have just 5. Was increased to 9 many years later. Why not increase it to more than 9?”

      *************************************************
      One of several things will happen to negate and bypass the U.S. constitution.

      1. some nut will off one or more current conservative SCOTUS members. A D. president and D senate will approve liberal replacement(s).

      2. Ds will dig up some dirt that will DQ some sitting conservative SCOTUS member(s). D president and D senate will approve liberal replacement(s).

      3. D majority Congress will pass a law to expand SCOTUS to be increased to X (fill in the number) members. D president appoints them, and D senate quickly confirms.

      4. Biden and Dems THRTEATEN to do #4 (like FDR did when the SOTUS then ruled many of his New Deal actions unconstitutional). FDR and the massive majority Ds never did increase the number of SOTUS members then, but the threat to do so is considered by many to have been the impetus that caused the then SCOTUS to suddenly begin ruling that what FDR did was not unconstitutional.

    1083. Cash Cow TM says:

      #2 (above) addendum …and sitting conserative member(s) of SOTU will suddenly step down and rate vacancy (which will be filled by a D president with a D Senate)

      #5. other vacancies might occur when otherwise healthy conservative SCOTUS members “sudden die unexpectedly in their sleep” or get hit by a truck while crossing the street or when a piano or anvil suddenly falls out of the sky.

      Remember recent history.

      Ds adhere to gaining control by all means necessary.

    1084. Bitterlaw says:

      Cash Cow – Thank you for the update. I could not find the Division 2 schedule when I went all the way down to ESPN 15.

    1085. Tgca says:

      Uno!
      Uno!!
      Uno!!!
      Uno!!!!

    1086. jason says:

      Walker winning will be important.

      Should be easy to unify around that.

      Walker plus the Lib had 50.5%.

    1087. Cash Cow TM says:

      Can’t rely on libertarians.

      These idiots main focus us
      “sendinga message.”

      If the really did NOT want the communists
      to win in close elections they would
      simply vote for the R candidate who
      they agree with 90% of the time.

      They would rather put up candidates
      in absolutely unwinnable races and split
      the non communist vote and help
      the communist squeak by and go to Washington.

      They live and die by their principles.

    1088. Cash Cow TM says:

      Cow took all his libertarian friends
      off Cow’s Christmas card list.

    1089. Tina says:

      Mini boom here

      The AZ – abc15 – Data Guru

      @Garrett_Archer
      20,457 ballots dropped in #AZ01
      @DavidSchweikert
      58.4
      @JevinHodge
      41.6

      Schweikert nets 3,435 and is now leading.
      5:23 PM · Nov 13, 2022
      ·Twitter Web App

    1090. jason says:

      Rs have 212 and are leading in 10 races. They need at least 6 of them.

      Thats the good news. The bad news is the Dems know what they have to do to win.

    1091. jason says:

      Wasserman calls it, pending a miracle.

      “Dave Wasserman
      @Redistrict
      ·
      Follow
      New House math:

      Dem called/probable (213), incl. #AKAL, #CA09, #CA21, #CA47, #CA49, #CO08, #ME02, #OR06
      GOP called/probable (220): incl. #AZ01, #AZ06, #CA03, #CA27, #CA41, #CA45, #CO03, #NY22, #OR05
      Toss Ups (2): #CA13, #CA22

      Dems need a miracle now.”

    1092. jason says:

      Predictit at 95% for R house.

      Of course, they were 80% for Laxalt too.

      Maddening that less than 10k votes in NV might have decided the Senate.

    1093. jason says:

      222 gives them a little cushion, pretty much what the Dems had for most of the last 2 years.

    1094. Tina says:

      Yes, just a bit more “post election vote” will do.

    1095. Tina says:

      If we get the House, all the credit should go to Lee Zeldin,

    1096. jason says:

      Another 3% dump in AZ. Now at 93%.

      Lake gained about 8k votes, trails by 26k.

      If she gains 2700 votes for every 1% left she will only gain another 18k.

      She needs the remaining ballots to be even better than tonight roughly 60/40.

      Will be tough.

    1097. jason says:

      Yes, just a bit more “post election vote” will do”

      Hey these people wanted to vote, they just didn’t.

      You want to disenfranchise them?

    1098. Tina says:

      You can elect the guy at mar Al Lago.

      That will make them sheot.

      Steve Cortes

      @CortesSteve
      ·
      5m
      Key flip!

      The question becomes, what to do with the narrow majority?

      After picking a fearless wartime leader, who doesn’t room with Frank Luntz, priority #1 must be Border and #2 unleashing American Energy.

      Tell Biden…not one item gets funded otherwise…

    1099. jason says:

      Scalise already declared for McCarthy.

      Realistically he was the only one that might have a chance.

      The holdouts can vote for Pelosi if they want.

      My money is on Luntz’s roommate.

    1100. Tina says:

      They said Oz did terrible in west pa.

      Romney like numbers.

      Not good

    1101. jason says:

      OZ won every county in west PA except of Allegheny and Erie.

      In the end, he held the rural vote pretty well, which was a concern. Mastriano voters did for the most part vote for him too.

      But he got killed in the Phila suburbs, which I guess did not believe the primary ads against him calling him a liberal.

      He even got a respectable 17% in Philadelphia. But he only got about a third of the vote in Delco and Montco and 40% in Chester. His deficit in those three counties was 240k votes, more than Fetterman’s winning margin.

      He got killed by white suburban women.

      Frankly, I was worried about the opposite. I was worried the rural voters would balk at voting for the “liberal New Jersey Muslim”, while the suburbs would appreciate him as a moderate.

      Nope.

    1102. eriepa says:

      Sad part is Toomey would have won. I couldnt stand him and now I wish he was still there.

    1103. Hugh says:

      1130. Don’t be so sure. Rural voters may not have turned out

    1104. eriepa says:

      You could be right, but we will never know. I still think he would have pulled it off.

    1105. Gordon Allen says:

      Looks like Lake will also go down.
      The constant: she was the Trump picked candidate in the primary.
      The sun does indeed rise in the East.
      GOP still leads national vote by 4 to5 million.

    1106. Tgca says:

      I lived in AZ. It’s definitely changing and becoming more like CA.

      Not even DeSanctimonius couLd win in AZ because the Latino vote there is different than the Latino vote in Floreedah.

      A lot of Phoenix reminds me of LA.

    1107. Bitterlaw says:

      Just checking in. GFY

    1108. Tgca says:

      Another article proving my point on Floreedah’s continuing trend of turning red over the last decade. I did not know all these news organizations follow us on HHR and read my EXCELLENT analysis.

      As I stated earlier, the GOP picked up 100K new voters in 2022. The Dems lost over 300K.

      The reason? The RNC, not DeSanctimonius, invested heavily into certain areas with heavy Latino voters and opened offices to reach out and register them. The Dems dud the opposite and the DNC abandoned Floreedah, perhaps thinking they had the Latinos in their court so no need to waste resources.

      As many of you know, I’ve been advocating this “new” RNC strategy for years. The GOP needs to have an on-going program reaching out to minorities and not just 3 months before an election.

      I’m glad the RNC listened to me finally. I’m also glad the DNC dropped the ball and pulled out of Floreedah. Shhh! Let’s not tell them though.

      Now the RNC needs to do this strategically in other states as well.

      https://freebeacon.com/elections/we-have-rewritten-the-political-map-how-the-gop-turned-florida-into-a-red-state/

    1109. jason says:

      Sad part is Toomey would have won. I couldnt stand him and now I wish he was still there.”

      Not sure he would have won. I doubt the Mastriano crowd would have voted for him after the threw law abiding gun owners under the bus so he could be a hero at CNN and MSNBC.

      Maybe the white suburban women would have saved him. But he would have real problems with rural vote.

    1110. jason says:

      Looks like Lake will also go down.
      The constant: she was the Trump picked candidate in the primary”

      Zzzzz….. the only constant here is that you are a TDS moron and a Putin lapdog. ‘

      Now that IS a constant.

    1111. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      November 14, 2022 at 8:46 am

      Just checking in. GFY”

      Roger.

    1112. jason says:

      I guess against Fetterman even I would have voted for Toomey.

      Then I would have felt compelled to spend the rest of the day at the shooting range.

    1113. eriepa says:

      Toomey is MAGA on steroids compared to Fetterman. I still can’t believe that brain dead fraud won

    1114. Bitterlaw says:

      I think Fetterman’s stroke may have gained him some sympathy votes. It was also an excuse for him to only have 1 debate. If he had to engage in 5 debates as proposed by Oz, he would have fared very poorly.

    1115. eriepa says:

      Faired poorly? He crashed and burned in the opening seconds of the debate and went downhill from there.

      I guess he had already banked enough votes in advance. You don’t need high voter motivation if your a Democrat and have a mail in ballot sitting in front of you for a month and all you have to do is stick it in the mailbox.

    1116. phoenixrisen says:

      For all the talk about AZ trending purple, maybe we should take a look at CA and Dahle getting 42% against Newsome. This is an effect of the Hispanic vote trending redder and a growing number of people fed up with the crime and high taxation. Will have to be watched for the next few elections cycles. For all the talk from Democrats flipping Texas blue, maybe the GOP should be eyeing California and investing more there. After all, California did give the country Reagan.

    1117. jason says:

      PA elected a guy who opened the debate by saying “good night”.

    1118. jason says:

      Looks like AZ, a border state, might have elected a Governor and Senator who favor open borders.

      Supposedly that was to spite Trump. I read it here on HHR

    1119. jason says:

      For all the talk from Democrats flipping Texas blue, maybe the GOP should be eyeing California and investing more there. After all, California did give the country Reagan.”

      Unfortunately the Dems have years of majorities in CA to make sure that won’t happen. Voting laws, gerrymandering, rogue DA’s, leftist judges at all levels.

      Dems have done in CA the exact blueprint of what they want to do nationally with HR1 and packing the court and eliminating the filibuster and open borders.

    1120. Tgca says:

      1143

      …and don’t forget incessant reminders to mail in your ballot.

      The GOP will not be able to compete with this new environment unless it also adopts the same strategy.

      Unfortunately, more VBM = more fraud.

    1121. jason says:

      Hey eriepa, I see that in Erie Co, PA, a “working class” county, Fetterman won by 10 k votes. Shapiro won by 22k votes.

      This was a county that Trump had flipped to the GOP after decades of voting Dem.

      Of course, I have been assured the Golden Calf will automatically win there too.

    1122. jason says:

      There were 900k VBM received before the debate and 70% were Dem, so roughly 630k.

      Would the debate have caused 200k of them to not vote or change their minds? Actually you would only need 100k of them to flip to cover a 200k margin.

      Intuitively maybe not if these were the most committed Dem voters eager to cast their ballots. But maybe some were legitimate absentees or disabled, so we don’t really know.

      And of course maybe some of the 270k votes were crossovers for Fetterman or non-votes for OZ that could have changed too. No way they would have changed pro-Fetterman.

    1123. jason says:

      270k R votes I should say.

    1124. gameboy says:

      FWIW Oz being labeled a “carpetbagger” cost him many votes in my opinion. I don’t think PA is a state where being an outsider plays well. With that being said the outright fraud is the major reason that seat is gone.

    1125. eriepa says:

      Thanks for reminding me Jason. Cant explain it , dont get it, I really thought OZ would take the county. We elected a Republican county executive last year, and I think if I remember correctly, voted for 3 of the 4 Republicans in the statewide judicial races. VBM is my only explanation, but we had that last year too.

    1126. Tina says:

      Decision Desk HQ

      @DecisionDeskHQ
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      13h
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      Decision Desk HQ projects Rep. David Schweikert (R) wins re-election to the U.S. House in Arizona’s 1st Congressional District.

      #DecisionMade: 10:01pm EST

      Follow more results here: https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/national/2022-house

    1127. Tina says:

      Sean Davis

      @seanmdav
      ·
      21m
      The “candidate quality” and “it’s Trump’s fault” canards are a smokescreen for the GOP getting its bell rung on ballot harvesting and the base mechanics of electioneering. The *one thing* that’s the actual job of the party establishment is the one thing it refused to do.

    1128. Tgca says:

      I know Oz came closer to winning than Mastriano but has anyone compared the win level of Shapiro to Fetterman?

      Is it possible Mastriano undervote compared to Oz was splitting their vote by party by candidate or folks just not voting?

      If someone voted for Oz and Shapiro, I would question their rationale.

      At this point, it’s hard for me to believe rational people would split their vote in PA with two far-lefties as their alternative choices.

    1129. Tgca says:

      1156

      EggZackly!

      My gut feeling, by re-electing the McLeadership, no lessons will be learned.

    1130. SoHope says:

      Hard to do mail-in voting as a party when Trump is yelling at all the MAGAs that “mail-in voting is a scam and your vote won’t count and you might as well not even vote because Dems are going to steal anyway since they stole from me in 2020.”

    1131. SoHope says:

      2024 in most states but FL this is what Trumpy “addition by subtraction” looks like. DeSantis and to a certain extent NY did addition by addition. Trump can’t relay any message as to why to vote for him other than to demogague voters that he would need to win. DeSantis can win. Trump can’t.

    1132. WizardofCozz says:

      So the GOP is having a chance to somehow win 6 out of 9 house spots in Arizona but lose all the statewide races, that makes no sense!! Other than that in DEM controlled areas they are just bringing VBM in that so outweight the rest of the electorate, it’s still staggeringly crazy to think about.

    1133. Todd McCain says:

      Lake is going to lose; we couldn’t just nominate the boring Taylor-Robson, right? Doug Ducey should have been the senate candidate but Trump didnt like him because he wouldnt alter the 2020 election results. We cannot allow Trump to pick these candidates going forward — its been a f*cking disaster. Had to primary Herrera-Buetler, right? R+13 seat lost. Kent didnt even know the basics of the timber industry in that district….embarrassing.

    1134. jason says:

      My response to that BS is it is hard to win elections when Trump is right about 2020.

    1135. jason says:

      Doug Ducey should have been the senate candidate but Trump didnt like him”

      Zzzz… why didn’t he run?

      Was he too afraid?

      “Should have been the candidate”. What a crock of crap.

      What he should have done is protect election integrity in AZ. Then maybe people would have liked him more.

    1136. jason says:

      If someone voted for Oz and Shapiro, I would question their rationale.”

      Well, look at Erie, PA.

      Oz lost by 10k, Mastriano by 22k.

    1137. Todd McCain says:

      1164. Same reason Sununu didn’t run…two candidates that would have won that got warded off by Trump. Second cycle in a row that he cost us the senate. Bolduc…what a joke got blown the F out. You can’t make excuses for these candidates and I dont want to hear about “muh voter fraud”, you sound like a moron. Why are all the late ballots benefiting the congressional GOP candidates, then?

    1138. jason says:

      DeSantis can win. Trump can’t.”

      Hail to the Golden Calf!

      Looks like the Golden Calf won’t even have to campaign or spend any money.

      According to the TDS morons, he automatically inherits the R country club vote, the working class vote, the MAGA vote, the suburban white women vote, the Hispanic vote and the black and Asian and Indian and Muslim and Jewish vote, all without lifting a finger.

      Think of all the money Rs can now invest in senate and house races and governorships since the race for President is already decided.

      Good times!

    1139. Tina says:

      Douchey and the legislature supported this vbm and the disaster in Maricopa.

      Never fixed a damn thing.

    1140. Todd McCain says:

      I dont have TDS. I just don’t want a nearly 80 year old man that clearly has some mental health issues to run again and damage us even further. We won the VA governor race because he stayed away!

    1141. jason says:

      1164. Same reason Sununu didn’t run…two candidates that would have won that got warded off by Trump.”

      Shouda, coulda, wouda.

      They didn’t run. If they were afraid to Trump, it on them, not Trump.

      Sununu said he didn’t want a legislative position. There is no evidence he would have lost the primary.

      I think Ducey didn’t want to run either, nothing to do with Trump.

      You go with the candidates that want to run and win instead of whining about those that are either afraid or don’t want to run.

      Screw Sununu and Ducey.

    1142. Tina says:

      1/4 of the voting machines in Maricopa, up to 30% went offline,

      But the goop e are silent on this,

      No potential impact on voting.

      Can somebody explain how the polls in the Az Governor race were so odd?

    1143. Todd McCain says:

      Bo Hix, another great MAGA endorsement. LOST! Another seat thrown down the drain.

    1144. jason says:

      We won the VA governor race because he stayed away!”

      Zzzz… more revisionist BS.

      Youngkin won because Trump endorsed him and because McTurkey self destructed on parental involvement.

      He was smart to say election integrity was the most important issue in VA because that cemented the Trump vote.

      ‘Stayed away” my ass.

    1145. Todd McCain says:

      You’re on a different plan man.

    1146. Todd McCain says:

      planet

    1147. jason says:

      I dont have TDS. I just don’t want a nearly 80 year old man that clearly has some mental health issues”

      LOL

      So Todd thinks the problem is that Trump, not Biden, has mental health issues?

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    1148. jason says:

      Heh, someone worried about Trump’s mental issues instead of Biden’s is saying I am on another planet?

      I love it here.

    1149. Todd McCain says:

      COCO CHOW!! Yeah, he’s really stable.

    1150. Todd McCain says:

      Stupid ass.

    1151. jason says:

      I dont have TDS.”

      “clearly has some mental health issues”

      LOL

    1152. jason says:

      Yeah, let’s ignore Biden’s obvious cognitive decline to focus on Trump’s non existent “mental health” problems.

    1153. jason says:

      We cannot allow Trump to pick these candidates going forward ”

      Amoral Scumbag would be proud.

      The country club Rs will now go back into picking “quality” candidates.

      Brokered conventions!

    1154. jason says:

      And btw, Trump did not pick any candidates.

      The voters did.

      The only people who want to “pick” candidates are the elitist country club Rs, nobody else.

    1155. jason says:

      Had to primary Herrera-Buetler, right?

      Tell me this.

      If HB hadn’t voted for a bogus impeachment that 95% of her colleagues rejected, would she have lost the primary?

      Yes or no?

    1156. WizardofCozz says:

      There is zero things wrong with Lake as a candidate, just like there is nothing wrong with Laxalt as a candidate, what’s wrong is VBM and Ballot harvesting, and the fact the the Republican Party refuses to invest in these areas, in places that are going to allow it. Until we can get elected we have to follow the rules that are dealt.

    1157. jason says:

      HB wanted to please the MSM so she didn’t have the guts to stand up against it and she voted for a bogus 24 hour impeachment travesty.

      Like Cheney, Kinzinger, Mejier and others she paid the price for selling out her principles and sucking up to the MSM and Adam Schiff.

      Her loss is on her.

      There is no free lunch in politics.

    1158. jason says:

      Hey but Todd McCain is focused on Trump’s “mental health problems”.

      Don’t ever tell me MSM brainwashing doesn’t work.

      The talking points by the TDS morons here are EXACTLY those by the MSM.

      You can go to MSNBC and CNN right now and the talking points are verbatim.

    1159. jason says:

      “Ummm… I’m having trouble reading this.. Reuters..De-tan-deja-daboze…” Biden said.

    1160. WizardofCozz says:

      JD Vance with absolutely spot on article on money and fundraising and the disadvantage that Republicans are at!!

      https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dont-blame-trump/

    1161. Tina says:

      Daily Caller

      @DailyCaller
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      3h
      ?BREAKING? Republicans are now projected to win control of the United State House of Representatives, after gaining 7 seats, 2 more than they needed to win control of the chamber.

    1162. JeffP says:

      I don’t think waiting until 2028 is a good move for DeSantis. LOL.

      2024 TX Republican Primary Poll

      DeSantis — 43%
      Trump — 32%
      Pence — 5%
      Haley — 4%
      T. Scott — 1%

      Oct. 23
      Trump — 46%
      DeSantis — 29%
      Abbot — 4%
      Pence — 4%
      Haley — 4%
      Cruz — 3%

      ? November 12-13, 1,099 LV
      ? @CWS_Research / @TexasGOP
      texasgop.org/wp-content/upl…

    1163. WizardofCozz says:

      Megan Brock
      @MegBeileen
      Do you notice how the language has shifted? It’s no longer about making sure every VOTE counts, it’s about making sure every BALLOT counts.

      Whoever gets the most ballots, not votes, wins.

    1164. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #1191- Tina
      Here is one winner per Dave Wasserman. To wit:

      Dave Wasserman
      @Redistrict
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      27m
      I’ve seen enough: Brandon Williams (R) defeats Francis Conole (D) in #NY22. Another critical seat for a narrow GOP House majority.

    1165. SoHope says:

      1192, if that poll is repeated in other states then 2024 is likely over . deSantis will be the nominee. Pretty much all non-Trump candidates won’t risk causing Trump to win. They will consolidate around the biggest non-Trump.

    1166. Todd McCain says:

      Im tired of losing. I thought Trump was going to make us tired of winning.

    1167. Tgca says:

      1195

      The problem is DeSanctimonius will lose the GE if he does not reach out to disenfranchised voters in MI, PA, and WI that Trump brought into the party that were loyal to Trump and not the GOP because he fought for them. There needs to be a concerted effort, and not just 3 months before an election.

      Unless the Dems lose a blue state in their column they traditionally win, DeSanctimonius has NO path in the EC in 2024.

      This is the problem the GOP has at the national level.

    1168. Tina says:

      Sheeple and another one perhaps called already elsewhere:

      Decision Desk HQ

      @DecisionDeskHQ
      ·
      1h
      Decision Desk HQ projects Marc Molinaro (R) wins election to the U.S. House in New York’s 19th Congressional District.

      D to R Flip.

      #DecisionMade: 1:49pm EST

    1169. Tina says:

      Rob Pyers

      @rpyers
      Another 777 votes just added in the #AZ06 race that split 69.4%/30.6% for Republican Juan Ciscomani and boost his lead by 301 votes to 2,074 votes.

    1170. Tgca says:

      1196. Todd

      Read the article The Wizard just posted in 1190 by JD Vance. It addresses much of what REALLY happened.

      It makes no sense Trump endorsed candidates won in some liberal places like NY but not other places if it was simply about Trump endorsements.

      Resources, messaging, and vote by mail were the biggest contributors especially since we know the GOP outvoted the Dems by 5 million votes.

      Now you’ve had a few days to wallow in the self pity but ENUFF!

      Now MAN UP and work towards what’s next.

      The GOP looks good for the senate in 2024 IF it can get its act together since Dems have to defend over 20 seats compared to the 10 seats the GOP has to defend in safe states. The Dems have about 7 or 8 seats in Red to Purple states to defend.

    1171. Tgca says:

      New thwee Bishes!

      New thwed I thay.

    1172. Bio mom says:

      1191

      That works as long as the Dems do not flip too many R seats on the remaining contests.