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    Trump Leads Biden By 3% in New ABC-WaPo Poll

    Buried in this new article from The Washington Post about a new poll they did with ABC News highlighting how it seems very few people want to see a 2020 rematch in 2024 is the actual hypothetical matchup that shows Donald Trump leading Joe Biden by 3%.

    PRESIDENT – NATIONAL (ABC/WaPo)
    Donald Trump (R) 48%
    Joe Biden (D-inc) 45%

    This poll was done January 27-February 1 among registered voters.

    Posted by Dave at 8:39 pm
    Filed under: General | Comments (751)

    751 Responses to “Trump Leads Biden By 3% in New ABC-WaPo Poll”

    1. Bitterlaw says:

      First

    2. Tgca says:

      Dos Bebe! Dos!

    3. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Columbia professor sues banker’s widow accusing her of white supremacy”

      redickolus.

      Somebody needs to just tell these people they are asshats and to just go suck eggs.

    4. Tgca says:

      So Gubbernor Sununu goes on lefty ABC This Week and says Trump has no chance of beating Biden because he’s too extreme, and points to the midterms as proof even though like 90%+ candidates Trump supported won.

      …as if Biden is seen as a moderate by the electorate. HA! HA!

      I see a theme here by this RINO moron who also said last week that DeSanctimonius can’t appeal to anyone but his base, implying DeSanctimonius can’t win the GE because he too is too extreme.

      You think this guy is trying to elevate himself as the only viable candidate?

      My guess is he’ll be a 3rd tier candidate washed out within weeks as no one wants a RINO from a lefty leaning state as the GOP nominee. He’ll go the same route as Hogan I would bet.

      https://www.wnd.com/2023/02/republican-governor-issues-bold-prediction-trumps-chances-2024/

    5. Cash Cow TM says:

      Hs China announced yet that they intend to sue to U.S. for $3 million for shooting on their “weather balloon?

      Has the MSM gotten complaints by viewers yet that the videos they air of the balloon getting shot down is triggering them and to demand they stop showing the violence?

      Has anyone complained yet that the balloon is a symbol of white supremacy since it was white?

    6. Cash Cow TM says:

      Walt said he might move to Canada if the 2024 election is between Trump and Biden.

    7. Cash Cow TM says:

      DAVE,

      THANKS FOR THE NEW POST!

      ***********************************
      Accd. to WaPo poll

      DEMS
      do NOT want Biden in 2024 by 58% NO to 31% yes.

      REPS

      do not want Trump 49% NO to 44% Yes

      10% no opinion in both parties on the question.
      **********************************************
      We all know this means anot4her 10% do not want Bien or Trump.

    8. Tgca says:

      Cash is ok living under Trudeau?

      As much as I despise Biden as POTUS, I see Trudeau as worse if you can actually believe someone is worse then Biden.

    9. Tgca says:

      Koch Network Vows to Oppose Trump in Republican Presidential Primary: ‘We’ve Got to Turn the Page’

      So the Koch network that is out of step with most conservative voters and wants open borders and more globalism wants to find a candidate to oppose Trump in the primary.

      Of course they do! They want someone they can fund and will be beholden to their interests which is more in line with Soros, Gates, etc.

      Perhaps they’ll start with Hogan or Sununu, RINOs more in line with their views but I doubt conservatives will vote for these elitist Republicans who have contempt for most conservative voters.

      Look at the recent comments both Sununu and Hogan made about MAGA voters and you will see the blatant contempt they have for them.

      https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fpolitics%2F2023%2F02%2F05%2Fkoch-network-vows-oppose-trump-republican-presidential-primary-weve-got-turn-page%2F

    10. Tgca says:

      Amazing video of baby in womb moving, yawning, turning, etc. The clarity is stunning.

      Every Birthing Person choosing an ABORTION should see a video like this before they decide to heinously MURDER their child.

      …and for the record, by 20 weeks, babies are significantly developed with all limbs, beginning functioning organs, and babies have survived outside the womb at less than 21 weeks even though the official Guinness record is 21 weeks and one day.

      No excuse to kill your babies Birthing People!

      Like I’ve said before, technology and science will prevail over ignorance and prove one day millions of selfish Birthing People having ABORTIONS murdered their babies and SCOTUS completely missed the mark in 1973 with its ignorance.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/fascinating-4d-video-shows-unborn-babies-moving-around-in-the-womb/

    11. jason says:

      though the official Guinness record is 21 weeks and one day.”

      So sounds like my 20 week limit is a good one.

    12. jason says:

      And probably 99% of the 21 week are not viable either.

    13. jason says:

      I read up on the BS Tgca was posting about “Western powers blocking a ceasefire”.

      There was no ceasefire actually on the table, Bennett merely thought “there was a good chance of one”.

      “Bennett, who was prime minister and then alternate prime minister in Israel during a confusing period of coalition politics prior to the return of Benjamin Netanyahu as head of government in December, said that “there was a good chance of reaching a ceasefire” before the Western powers “curbed” negotiations in a wide-ranging interview uploaded to YouTube.”

      If you read the interview, Bennett is very pro-Putin and praises him and supports the idea of a “Monroe Doctrine” for Russia, basically saying Russia has a right to intervene in Ukraine and anywhere else in its “sphere or influence’.

      Garbage and drivel. Not to mention Bennett is as moron and his government fell quickly due to incompetence.

      It sounds like Bennet’s “cease fire” idea was basically surrender and that is why Western powers rejected it.

      Plus, it seemed like he had ulterior motives for supporting Putin.

      “Bennett cited Israeli interests in Syria, where “once or twice a week we attack the Iranian presence… Russia, the superpower, has the S-300 there, and if they press the button Israeli pilots will fall.”

      “Who will save them? Biden? Zelensky? It [would have been] my problem,” he said, having earlier suggested that he had “made sure that Israel would have free rein in Syria” during his first in-person meeting with President Vladimir Putin — an ally of the Syrian and Iranian governments — prior the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.”

    14. jason says:

      “Who will save them? Biden? Zelensky? It [would have been] my problem,””

      So Benett wanter Ukraine to surrender because it would “save” Israeli pilots?

      What a great man!

    15. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      I truly hope that after Biden concludes his incoherent and untruthful SOTU address tomorrow night, McCarthy stands-up and tears it to bits. It’s called pulling “The Pelosi”!

    16. Bitterlaw says:

      Russia could have ended the war at any time by withdrawing its troops back to the pre-invasion border.

    17. Tgca says:

      A 20 week ABORTION is still infanticide!

      The baby would survive without murderous interference.

      20 weeks is an arbitrary number not based in science.

      As technology improves so does survival rates since some babies in their 20th week have survived.

      Based on your logic, 100% of women with breast cancer would die of breast cancer if actions weren’t taken to save their lives so it’s fine to not interfere with the cancer then.

      Should we dispense with breast cancer research and treatment too?

      ABORTION is an issue of morality. It’s MURDER of a baby.

      If you’re fine with killing babies, that’s fine but I’m not.

    18. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #16- BitterLaw
      Your statement is true with one caveat. After “pre-invasion borders”, the words “except for keeping the parts of Ukraine, Biden and other European leaders said were acceptable for Russia to occupy”.

    19. Tgca says:

      My point on Israeli PM Bennet claims is that IF it is true, and both sides were working with him to give assurances, for the West to interfere to disrupt such negotiations is unconscionable interference and shameful. Peace negotiations are NEVER easy.

      None of us were there and he was so you either accept him at his word or not. Whether an actual ceasefire or peace would have ultimately resulted is not the issue here but whether the U.S. and Great Britain interfered with it because of their own agenda.

      Easy to let Ukrainians die for the agendas of others but I bet it would be a different story if it were US and Great Britain’s dying.

      I do not trust Boris or Biden on anything. Both of them have also been failures in leaders and had scandals so I’m not sure critiquing Bennet on his leadership alone disqualifies his claims at interference in potential peace settlements.

    20. Phil says:

      So Trump is up 3 over Biden in the latest ABC/Washington Post poll?

      That clinches it. Trump will be prosecuted to the max and will be sent to prison by NY or Fulton County prosecutors. Timeline looks to be around spring or summer of 24.

      Book it.

    21. Bitterlaw says:

      Ukrainians did not die for “agendas.” They died as victims of Putin’s vicious war.

    22. Tina says:

      The house needs to investigate, Biden’s Beotch should also demand an investigation. The pos won’t.

      The dod got caught lying for the incompetence of the administration.

      Milley needs to be fired.

      First Words

      @unscriptedmike
      ·
      2h
      Replying to
      @RepMTG
      They tried to cover for Biden’s dereliction of duty by lying Trump did the same thing, but now that’s been totally debunked and they’ve all shut up. Everyone knows Trump would have shot that spy balloon down in the Bering Sea and given notice to Xi. Biden’s a sold-out coward.

    23. Phil says:

      To be fair, it was Trump that nominated Milley as Chairman of the joint chiefs.

      I like Trump but he had a thing for nominating the most disloyal people around him. He did it time and time again.

    24. Tina says:

      Is this true?

      Quote Tweet
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      Newsweek

      @Newsweek
      ·
      Feb 2
      Joe Biden offered Vladimir Putin 20 percent of Ukraine to end war: report https://newsweek.com/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-territory-end-war-nzz-report-1778526?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1675345942

    25. Tina says:

      True, Phil. Bur the bad appointments were under max Russian hoax. The gop-e were not going to confirm others.

      With that said, if Milley knew about the spy ballots and did not inform others, he needs to go.

      This needs to be investigated.

      But notice how fast Biden’s Beotch runs away from asking for an investigation.

    26. Tina says:

      Afghanistan failure happened under Milley.

      The guy that phuqed up the withdrawal and outsourced it to the Taliban may have also allowed Ccp spy ballots in the country.

      This is treason.

    27. Tina says:

      Spy balloons*

    28. Tgca says:

      California quietly abandons COVID-19 vaccine mandate for school kids

      Great leadership by gubbernor Newsom!

      After Newsom mentored DeSanctimonius and convinced him to STOP forcing vax on FL school kids, he also FINALLY implements it in CA too.

      Clearly, Newsom wanted to address FL 1st because that is the job of other gubbernors – to run ads in and to stick their noses in the businesses of other states.

      Good collaboration between states. Good to see politicians working together.

      Too bad they’re from different parties. A Newsom/DeSanctimonius ticket would be formidable.

      https://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/2023/02/06/california-quietly-abandons-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-for-school-kids/

    29. Tgca says:

      21

      IF, and it’s a BIG IF, the US and Great Britain influenced Ukraine and Russia to walk away from any potential peace talks, then they are responsible for interfering even if they don’t cause deaths by their own hand because that means the war got dragged out.

      It’s irresponsible for nations to instigate or prolong wars for their own agenda. Countries have done this in the past, including the US. Think WW1.

      So again, IF potential peace discussions were nixed because of interference, that is wrong.

      It is not up to the US and Great Britain to decide what peace settlements should or should not include if they’re not invited to the table.

    30. Cash Cow TM says:

      “…Trump but he had a thing for nominating the most disloyal people around him. He did it time and time again.”

      Amen, Phil.

      Not just disloyal, but not good picks.

      ##########################################
      And his picking Sen. Jeff Sessions to be AG turned out to be a horrible decision in lots of ways down the road and helped R. lose/D gain majority in Senate.

      And he ends up firing Sessions in a few months anyway…

    31. Bitterlaw says:

      24. Only 20%? Tgca would have offered 25% and gone to 30%.

    32. Tgca says:

      31

      You may have a point PityLaw but it’s still waaaay less than the 100% of Iraq that the US tried to take over in its ILLEGAL invasion so it could divvy up contracts amongst Bush cronies in 2003 that you supported.

      I guess the millions displaced, 4,000+ lost American lives, and hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocent Iraqi civilians is ok when America invades countries.

      Glad to know how your moral compass works.

    33. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzzz

      Maybe you can let us know when the UN, UK, France, Germany and Israel approved Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

    34. Tgca says:

      The UN, France, and Germany were against the US invasion of Iraq.

      The UN to this day deems it an illegal invasion.

      The US refused to bring it to the UN Security Council because it could not get more than 3 of 15 countries to support it so the US went it alone with Great Britain and Australia which sent a whopping 200 military personnel.

      Over 95% of world countries were against it.

      They were proven right! The US did EXACTLY what Russia did in Ukraine, invaded a country on false pretense because its leader wanted to expand its interests there but the US failed miserably and has NEVER recovered from that debacle, and is still distrusted in the Middle East.

      If the US was a small chithole country it would have been tried for war crimes but only got away with it because of its international influence.

      4,000+ American soldiers paid with their lives so the Bush/Cheney clan could enrich themselves.

    35. Bitterlaw says:

      The UN and the countries I named all believed Iraq had WMDs.

      What else are they talking about at Code Pink and DailyKos?

    36. gameboy says:

      #34

      Why stop at Bush/Cheney? While that team lead the charge just about every other corrupt Washington politician participated in the “get rich quick” scheme.

    37. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Please meet the February IBD/TIPP Poll. In this poll, Biden’s approval is 46% and his disapproval 44%. Based on the data in the article among Political Groups the PID is D+15. Yes, you heard me:
      45%(D), 30%(R) and 25%(I)
      CLOWN POLL!!!

      https://www.investors.com/politics/biden-approval-rating-climbs-thanks-to-investors-as-the-sp-500-rallies/

    38. Pitchaboy says:

      IBD/TIPP is one of the most accurate polls and nailed 2020. Believe they did great 2016 as well.

    39. Pitchaboy says:

      Stock market and price of oil tracks his approval better than anything. If you have a decent market and reasonable oil price, he will be re-elected.

    40. Tina says:

      Yeah price od oil is alarming.

      We are over $4.00 a gallon.

      It got as low as $3.45.

      Up 60 cents since December.

    41. Tina says:

      Sarah huckleberry too,give the SOTU response.

      This is a good choice.

      McCarthy is still doing very well.

      Biden’s beotch is still doing poorly.

    42. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Pitchaboy #38
      Hope you are doing well.
      TIPP is accurate when it does head-to- head polling.
      When it comes to Presidential approval/disapproval, its polling is far from that.
      In its poll released today, unless you believe that Democrats make-up almost 50% of the electorate, this poll is seriously off. That’s a fact!

    43. NYCmike says:

      “If you have a decent market and reasonable oil price, he will be re-elected.”

      -Most likely true.

      Is it wrong to hope for a spike in oil prices?

      I would rather that happen instead of a down market.

      I am able to pass on fuel costs…….YES, OK, total selfishness on my part……Sue-Z-Q me!

    44. Pitchaboy says:

      In a poll where 45% are D his approval is 46%. The most likely explanation is a significant number of I are R leaning I.

    45. Tgca says:

      35

      Believing they had weapons and agreeing to invade a country are two very different things.

      In a very simplistic analogy, do police get to shoot you just because they think you might have a weapon and may use it even if they have no evidence of it?

      One of the reasons those countries you named believed there were WMD were because of flawed or fraudulent US intelligence shared with them by the US in the 1st place, as well as past actions by Iraq, some which occurred in the 1980s when the US funded Iraq and looked the other way to those actions because they shared a common enemy, Iran.

      If you recall, Hans Blix rebutted the US intelligence and interpretations quite reasonably. His bottom line view was the US was jumping to conclusions and had NO REAL evidence, and to date the inspectors found NO evidence.

      Hans Blix ended up being correct. The US and Great Britain were horribly WRONG!

      Germany and France agreed with Hans Blix that continued inspections were the most prudent way to go but the war-mongering politicians of US and Great Britain would have none of it. They wanted their war and ILLEGALLY invaded a country and destroyed their credibility and still haven’t recovered from it to this day.

      …and in the process, 4,000+ American troops and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians died for NOTHING, except for the attempt of Bush/Cheney to load their pockets and to this day STILL refuse to acknowledge their gross negligence because of their pride and lies.

      At least Colin Powell tried to come clean on it before he passed away because he knew it was all BS.

      Shame on the US for committing war crimes and mass atrocities without sufficient evidence. Oops! Doesn’t cover it.

    46. Tgca says:

      Your homophobic slurs show you can’t handle the truth and must resort to name-calling. You sound like an angry bigot because someone challenged your view. Would you also make disparaging bigoted remarks to Colin Powell who came clean on it?

      The vast majority of the world and even most in US believe the Iraq war was not justified (down from an supermajority support at one point). Are they all leftist gays too?

      You’d be whistling a different tune if one of those fallen 4,000 Americans was a loved one in your family, as would be your right NOW that we know the ILLEGAL invasion was built on manufactured intelligence and lies.

      Seems like you suffer from the same pride as Bush/Cheney and degrade the memory of fallen US troops by keeping up lies.

    47. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #44- Pichaboy
      With Indies in the TIPP poll, Biden’s approval/disapproval is 28/58 and with Republicans 10/84; with Democrats, 81/13.
      The poll is an Adults poll.

    48. jason says:

      This is a huge problem. These are the people teaching those who will be in leadership positions in technical fields.

      https://jonathanturley.org/2022/11/29/zero-tolerance-survey-finds-33-of-65-academic-departments-lack-a-single-republican-professor/

    49. Tina says:

      Yikes

      BREAKING: General Mattis Says He “HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF CCP BALLOON” Flying Over US During His Watch as Secretary of Defense under Trump – ANOTHER LIE EXPOSED!

    50. jason says:

      Good news. Despite all the efforts of the Putin Brigades, Americans still support Ukraine.

      And 65% support Ukraine reclaiming its territory “even if it means a prolonged conflict”

      https://news.gallup.com/poll/469328/one-year-later-americans-stand-ukraine.aspx

    51. jason says:

      Tgca’s attempt to reinvent history in Iraq is hilarious.

      What a pack of lies.

      EVERYTHING in post 46 is a lie.

      Hans Blix? LOL

    52. jason says:

      Germany and France agreed with Hans Blix that continued inspections were the most prudent way to go”

      No.

      Hans Blix was made a fool of by Saddam Hussein and Saddam was not allowing the inspectors access.

      Several ultimatums were given and Saddam ignored all of them.

      Had he allowed unfettered access to the inspectors there would have been no war. Had he resigned there would have been no war.

      But Bush and Blair were right, you couldn’t trust in the sanity of Saddam Hussein.

      The war was completely justified and LEGAL!

    53. jason says:

      It is possible that Saddam denied access because he didn’t want it be known that he didn’t have stockpiles of WMD. He wanted to keep that as a threat to his enemies and Israel.

      But only an idiot would have taken the chance on that theory.

      Also remember Hans Blix was a UN inspector. He had no responsibility like GWB and Blair of protecting the world against Saddam Hussein.

      My view of Hans Blix was always that he was a manipulated moron. Others can disagree.

    54. Tina says:

      They are incompetent. Political hacks running the military.

      Byron York

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      Gen. Glen VanHerck, head of NORAD, takes questions on Chinese spy balloon. Was asked about previous balloons administration says crossed US in Trump years. Has very little to say. Then asked: If you didn’t know about them then, how do you know now? Has even less to say.

    55. Tina says:

      The Calvin Coolidge Project
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    56. Bitterlaw says:

      Homophobic? Zzzzzzzzzz. Code Pink is an anti-war group that pushes your talking points. So does Daily Kos.

    57. Phil says:

      Well, the Washington Post and NYT now have back to back articles trashing Kamala Harris.

      The leftist elites who run the Democratic Party have put the word out that it’s time to cut Kamala loose. Word is out. She’s just too much of a liability and an anchor to the ticket in 2024. She has to go….for the sake of the cause. Always for the cause.

      Bye, Kamala.

    58. Cash Cow TM says:

      Sometime last week, this WV county school system (Berkeley County, 2nd largest in WV w/ @19,000+ students) had its computers hacked and the hackers are supposedly wanting a ransom paid to allow county to get its info back.

      The county school system closed schools today and is trying to reopen partially on Tuesday and Wed.

      The students cannot just use their textbooks–as all of the textbooks have been replaced by Chrome books that were issued to all the students ipads. And of course the blackboards have been replaced by computerized Smartboards.

      The hackers even have control of the bells used to change classes.

      Plus last Friday a lot of bus drivers staged a ‘sick out’ over the (to them, unjust) firing of a bus driver so many bus routes were cancelled Friday.

      So glad I am not a teacher today.

    59. Bitterlaw says:

      Cash Cow was a teacher?

      Walt was always happy that clay tablets could not be hacked.

    60. Tgca says:

      As usual, Jester Jadon and PityLaw will defend GWB lies that cost 4,000+ Americans their lives. They side with lying American politicians and dishonor dead American soldiers with their refusal to see what the rest of the world knows.

      The vast majority of the world, 95%, disagreed with the US ILLEGALLY invading Iraq.

      Yes, Hans Blix was getting the run around by Iraq but in the end, he was correct. There was no evidence of WMD and US intelligence lied and manipulated evidence as a pretense to go to war, taking advantage of the pain and emotion the country was suffering after 9/11.

      I trust Colin Powell on this who admitted they misled with evidence. He also claimed GWB had already made up his mind before going to the UN, that was just for show, and most damagingly, he stated Cheney’s office prepared the report they gave to the UN and GWB asked him to present the findings because he had the most credibility. He later found out they lied to him on vetting the evidence.

      We know GWB/Cheney lied and this was all about trying to democratize the Middle East and giving the US beneficial contracts.

      It was an utter failure and the US is scorned to this day around the world and not trusted on intelligence.

      Blair became a pariah and never recovered from his role in the lies either.

    61. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.codepink.org/ukrainepeace

      Tgca to adopt these talking points in 3…2…1…

    62. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.iraqtribunal.org/

      Maybe Tgca can make some posts.

    63. Tgca says:

      Hey PityLaw:

      You still upset more American soldiers did not lose their lives to democratize the Middle East so Bush/Cheney and friends could profit?

      You still blaming those soldiers for the enormous US failure in Iraq?

    64. Bitterlaw says:

      I never blamed the soldiers. They are heroes.

      Do you still cry over the death of Saddam?

    65. Tgca says:

      67

      Ha!!!

      Sure you think they’re hero’s. We believe you.

      Just like we believe you on NOT being woke or NEVER saying there’s a good and bad Philly.

      I NEVER supported Saddam. You blindly supported him because Reagan supported/funded him in the 80s.

    66. Bitterlaw says:

      19 years and thousands of my posts supporting military personn prove you are a liar and moron. Not a good combination for you.

      Remember when you said soldiers were no different than police and firefighters or anybody else who served their community? I do. You also trashed McCain’s service.

      I am not woke. Jason invented the terms Good and Bad Philadelphia.

    67. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      I would like to Thank You in advance for watching Biden’s SOTU address tomorrow.

    68. Tgca says:

      69

      Police are killed everyday protecting Americans. Firemen die routinely saving American lives and property.

      They are the 1st line of defense to saving lives and protecting the public. They have one of the most dangerous jobs one can have and suffer from high risks of injury, violence, death, suicide, divorce, stress, illness, mental health issues, etc.

      Clearly you lack respect for these people that serve and protect Americans daily when you can’t even come close to competing with the good deeds and service they offer America.

      Hopefully, you’ll never need them to protect your family or property since you probably could not protect them yourself.

      …and maybe you want to tell the families of the 340+ firemen and 70+ police that died on 9/11, and hundreds that died thereafter from 9/11 illnesses, while responding to a terrorist attack that they are less heroic and do not serve their country or communities like soldiers do.

      Evidently you are anti-police now too because only a complete idiot and moron would minimize the value and services police and firemen provide America.

      Doesn’t surprise me because of your wokeness that you have more in common with the woke anti-law enforcement crowd in the good and bad parts of Philly.

    69. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca does not know the meaning of the word “clearly.” Nobody at HHR is more pro-police than me. I have never disparaged their bravery or service. I also respect the bravery and service of firefighters and all first responders. Whenever the sad little clown is losing an argument, he just lies and pretends he is having a different argument. Don’t forget he also disparaged Jason’s military service.

    70. Jeffpee says:

      This is an outrage. Ukraine should not be killing Russian generals. Russia has nukes.

    71. jason says:

      BIDEN on banning the Chinese spyware app TikTok:

      “Ban TikTok? Well that—the answer I’m not sure. I know I don’t have it on my phone.”

    72. jason says:

      JeffP to be disappointed once again?

      “British intelligence believes it is unlikely that Russia can build up the forces needed to substantially affect the outcome of the war within the coming weeks.

      Details: The intelligence agency considers it highly likely that Russia has been attempting to re-start major offensive operations in Ukraine since early January 2023. Its operational goal is almost certainly to capture the remaining Ukrainian-held parts of Donetsk Oblast.

      However, Russian forces have only managed to gain several hundred metres of territory per week. This is almost certainly because Russia now lacks the munitions and manoeuvre units required for successful offensives.”

    73. jason says:

      Do you still cry over the death of Saddam?”

      Tgca can only worship one despot at a time, puhhhleeeze.

      Right now he has Putin pictures all over the house while the Saddam pictures have been moved to the garage.

    74. Phil says:

      Oh well, if Joe doesn’t have TikTok on his phone, what’s the problem?

      LOL

    75. Tgca says:

      I’m not losing an argument. PityLaw is the one deflecting because I pointed out his IDIOCY that police don’t protect and serve Americans as soldiers do.

      I showed the STOOPIDITY of his argument with the massive deaths of police and firemen on 9/11 in a terrorist attack that proved him wrong.

      Police and firemen die routinely protecting and servicing Americans. To think they are lesser than soldiers, who by the way, over 90% are never deployed in a combat or life-threatening situations, is insulting and degrading to them, especially to the memory of those that died in the line of duty.

      Many people protect and serve America in a variety of ways that put their lives on the line and we don’t need some woke supporting poster who has NEVER served in a similar capacity minimizing their contributions and loss of life in the line of duty.

      Again, go tell those families their loved ones on 9/11 did not serve Americans. Watch the reaction you get.

      Go back and read your post in 69. Why are you questioning how police and firemen protect and serve opposed to service men in the 1st place? Why did you even bring it up?

    76. Tgca says:

      Perhaps PityLaw should go Google the “protect and serve” oath officers take.

      …or is he suggesting they remove the oath abd the protect and serve emblem from their vehicles and buildings because they don’t protect and serve Americans.

      …and for the record, most here decided to boycott woke sports during 2020 and 2021 because of their woke and anti-police antics but PityLaw REFUSED so he made a conscious choice to support wokeism whether he agrees or not.

      It’s like going to a Springsteen concert where he proselytizes on lefty views and demeaning conservatives. You contribute to and help provide him a platform to do that by your attendance. If people boycott, they have a diminished or no platform to spread wokeism.

      Same with watching woke sports. It contributed to and empowered them in their messaging. If you turn it off, they have less empowerment.

    77. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzz. Police and firefighters protect and serve. 19 years and thousands of my posts prove my respect for them. You are the one trashes vets like McCain and Jason.

    78. Walter Duke says:

      Helped Walt do 2 hours of volunteer work for Hospice.

      Next on the agenda today is going to Rescue Mission to take mail and sunglasses to a poor soul who got evicted last month. Then tomorrow go back to the Mission and take him to Catholic Charities again (they are working on finding him subsidized housing).

      #############################################
      Curious…how many HHR posters do volunteer work?

    79. Tgca says:

      Jester Jadon can challenge others on supporting dictators when he stands up against China.

      He still refuses to acknowledge China has concentration camps with about a million Uyghurs.

      If only we do more trade with China, those Uyghurs will be freed.

      The concentration camps in China are on a scale of those in certain countries during WW2 but Jester Jadon sees no problem with that.

      China, probably the biggest violator or human rights and slaughtering people than any other country today….but LETS DO MORE TRADE.

    80. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzz. If I turn it off they have exactly the same influence because they have no influence on me.

      Your argument is absurd. It would be like you claiming that anybody who watches the weather report on the news is empowering the green agenda and man-made climate change theories.

    81. Bitterlaw says:

      Walt- You are doing great and necessary work. Thank you.

    82. Tgca says:

      I trash McCain not because of his military service but because of his actions after serving in the military.

      Same with Jester Jadon.

      Serving in the military does not make you a good citizen. I provided statistics in the past that show military personnel have a higher rate of criminal activity than the general public.

      Many ex-military people are violent criminal thugs.

      One does NOT get a pass simply because they served. If that is the same, you need to respect John Kerry, a military hero, and excuse his behavior over the years.

      Again, STOOPID reasoning by you up there with your idiotic beliefs on police service, depression, and flat earth theory.

      Gawd! Are you really this clueless? Now wonder you can’t keep a job and stuck as associate lawyer, never making partner.

    83. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca should call his doctor. He is now beyond what he used to call Wescom 5.

    84. Cash Cow TM says:

      Sung to the tune of
      “You’re the Reason God Made Oklahoma”

      ***************************************

      There’s a Chinese balloon over Tulsa
      and it’s up there spying on you.
      Biden lacked balls to shoot it down earlier
      He really, really has no clue.

      Unnamed sources say balloons breached U.S. air
      When Trump was the president.
      But nobody in the Trump admin knew it–
      about when the balloons came or went.

      Joe’s the reason China’s in Oklahoma
      Joe’s the reason China’s in Oklahoma
      And just like me you’re all screwed.
      _________________________
      SING, YOU B@ST@RDS!

    85. Cash Cow TM says:

      That quake in Syria/Turkey is being called an apocalypse.

      Terrible.
      ___________________________________

      BTW, you can make 303 words by using some of the letters in apocalypse.

    86. ssq says:

      You are the one trashes vets like McCain and Jason”

      McCain and jason trash vets?

      Shame on them.

    87. jason says:

      “The concentration camps in China are on a scale of those in certain countries during WW2 but Jester Jadon sees no problem with that.”

      Damm, I was still trying to store all the points I got from:

      “Does anyone here REALLY think Jester Jadon, some transplant from a chithole country, and that has little allegiance to the US really cares about protecting the US from China?”

    88. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      February 7, 2023 at 11:10 am

      Walt- You are doing great and necessary work. Thank you.”

      Walt hasn’t done this much volunteering since he volunteered as a deckhand on Noah’s Ark.

    89. jason says:

      China, probably the biggest violator or human rights and slaughtering people than any other country today”

      Zzzzzz… this from one who has his head up Putin’s ass and claps as Putin war on Ukraine slaughters, bombs, tortures, rapes hundreds of thousands in Ukraine and displaces 10 million people from their homes.

      Spare me the hypocrisy and GFY.

    90. Bitterlaw says:

      91 I call Shenanigans. Tgca and Jason are obviously conspiring to pile up points.

    91. jason says:

      What?

      I am NOT giving Tgca a 25% point rebate, I swear it on the life of Tgca’s endlers.

    92. jason says:

      I wish I could listen to the SOTU tonight but unfortunately I will be very busy with something I am sure I can think of by then.

      Luckily my fellow A-hole, who has a cast iron stomach and who unconfirmed rumor has it even listened to a Hillary Clinton stump speech once, will be watching and can keep track of how many lies Biden tells. It will be a challenge to keep up but I have faith in Bitter.

    93. jason says:

      Not everyone is as stoic as Bitter.

      “Republican Rep. Mary Miller of Illinois plans to boycott President Biden’s State of the Union speech on Tuesday over the commander in chief’s track record of lying.

      “I will not be attending. I do not plan to show up to and listen to him continue to lie,” she told Breitbart, noting his “entire presidency has been filled with lie after lie.”

    94. Bitterlaw says:

      I don’t rely on others to tweet what somebody says when I can listen to the speaker myself.

    95. Tgca says:

      87

      More deflection from PityLaw as he grasps at everything to walk back his minimizing the public service of protecting and serving Americans that police and firemen do.

      Tell us again why you think those hundreds of police and firemen that died on 9/11 were NOT protecting and serving Americans?

      Yes or no. Do police and firemen protect and serve Americans? Go on the record with your view.

      You brought it up. Not me. I’m just trying to understand why in post 69 you minimize contributions of police and firemen who protect and serve Americans.

    96. Bitterlaw says:

      As I have said in many posts over the last 19 years, police and firefighters protect and serve Americans.

    97. Tgca says:

      100

      Well thank you for your clarification then.

      So I guess I don’t understand why you brought it up in 69 as an issue in comparing them to soldiers but if you’re willing to accept they protect and serve which means they risk their lives for Americans then I’m fine and we can go back to being BFF. *HUG*

      As noted, many Americans serve their country in various ways and some with much more risk than others. Active CIA spies are example of people who are more likely to die on the job than a soldier not deployed in active combat.

    98. Tgca says:

      95

      Don’t be jinxing my Endlers. I have tons of them now. Like 50. All juveniles except for 4 adult females. They have survived and thrived. I had to move the 4 adult males into a separate tank to give the ladies a break.

      I have noticed some of the babies from a month or so ago are males so I will be separating them in a few weeks as well as they mature.

    99. Tina says:

      Poor pentagon

      We detected ccp balloons during trump.

      Now: we did not detect. It was the intelligence community that hid this

      Lol. Milley needs to be fired.

    100. Bitterlaw says:

      Before you GFY, you should apologize to Jason for saying he only enlisted to get an education and benefits and that he was never at risk of being in harm’s way.

    101. jason says:

      The real reason was I thought I might make the military a career but changed my mind later. Tgca can GFH.

    102. Tina says:

      Senator Daines has been suspended from Twitter.

      Biden’s beitch goes mute.

    103. Tgca says:

      104

      There is nothing wrong with joining the military to get education and benefits. Where I grew up, that’s why most joined in the 1st place, not out of a sense of duty.

      Young men, especially those with troubled backgrounds, poverty, mediocre or not so good grades were often pushed to the military as an alternative.

      There is a long-held belief the military takes boys and makes them men of character.

      I recall hearing one AA father opine he’d rather his boy go to the military and learn discipline, respect and become a man than stay on the streets in the ghetto where we know pressures often push kids into a life of crime or make them victims of crime.

      So, there is no shame in admitting young kids go into the military as an alternative to developing a career or skills than kidding ourselves most join the military out of a sense of pride and duty to their country. That’s hogwash.

    104. Bitterlaw says:

      The trashing of Jason’s military service continues…

    105. Tgca says:

      105

      I don’t fault Jadon for joining the military simply as an escape from eating mountain rodents and snacking on bugs after he heard in America people ate beef and bacon daily.

      He worked hard peeling onions and potatoes and mopping up the latrine and that humbled him and made him into the man of character he is today that can command the great respect and following he has at HHR.

      I do not minimize his service to America one bit. Someone had to get kitchen duty and clean up the chit. More power to him for enthusiastically embracing his assignments.

      His perseverance paid off! He now eats unhealthy, greasy, salty pork daily and despite his advance cardiovascular disease with 800+ cholesterol, he is happier then when he was a street urchin living in a hut eating rodents and bugs.

      Good for him!

    106. Robbie says:

      Mediaite
      @Mediaite

      Trump Now Sharing Memes Accusing DeSantis of ‘Grooming High School Girls’

      https://t.co/cVqswLnqAH

      – Defend your boy Trump, Jason fraud. He’s your guy so I’m sure you’re ok with this.

    107. Tina says:

      The Trafalgar Group
      @trafalgar_group
      ·
      1h
      New
      @COSProject
      /
      @trafalgar_group
      pre #SOTU poll (2/6-7) shows only 37% of Americans feel the Chinese #spyballoon was handled appropriately.

      Opinion of US perception on world stage now:

      59.2% Weaker
      24.2% No Impact
      10.1% Stronger
      6.5% Not sure

      Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/nat-issues-spy-balloon-0207/

    108. Tina says:

      We do look weak.

      7 days to shoot down a spy blimp.

      And the pentagon lied about other balloons during trump.

      The pentagon looks weak and political.

      Milley is an idiot as is sec of defense.

      But let’s send more $$$ to the grifter

    109. Tina says:

      This is weak sauce from Biden’s Beotch. He waited so long to say nothing.

      Chad Pergram

      @ChadPergram
      ·
      1h
      McConnell on Fox on if the military failed to detect other possible Chinese balloon flights: I never heard anything about this..let’s just focus on what happened last week..We have a lot of questions to ask. Why did we not deal with this in the past?

    110. JeffP says:

      Trump is really stupid to continue his antics.

      Putin is committed to Ukraine regardless of the loss of life and destruction. Be careful what propaganda you read it’s on both sides. The leadership in Ukraine is tenuous at best. I don’t trust Putin and Zelenskyy…or Biden…or the EU…or China…or…Germany…or etc……..I am a free agent independent thinker and they have given me no reason to trust anything they say or do.

      I trust the people closest to me that matter like my.Wife and five adult children. That’s it.

    111. Waingro says:

      “– Defend your boy Trump, Jason fraud. He’s your guy so I’m sure you’re ok with this.”

      Last time I checked in here, jason said he was supporting DeSantis over Trump (because of the age difference I believe?). Has that changed?

    112. Waingro says:

      Joel Weingart
      @JoelWeingart_
      ???? New 2024 Republican Primary Poll by Club For Growth

      Head-to-head
      Ron DeSantis 49%
      Donald Trump 40%

      Donald Trump 37%
      Ron DeSantis 33%
      Mike Pence 7%
      Nikki Haley 5%
      Tim Scott 2%
      Mike Pompeo 1%
      Glenn Youngkin 1%

    113. Tina says:

      This will trigger the Russian hoaxer and the capitol police.

      GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Plans to Bring White Balloon to SOTU Address to Troll Joe Biden (VIDEO)

    114. Tina says:

      Lol club for no growth is polling

    115. Tina says:

      Should be called the club for ccp growth.

    116. Waingro says:

      “Lol club for no growth is polling”

      Probably about as credible as Trafalgar at this point, no?

    117. Tina says:

      I don’t think trafalgar has a stake in the primary contest

      The club for ccp growth has a stake.

    118. Tina says:

      Rep. Paul Gosar, DDS

      @RepGosar
      Hospitals in Yuma are now entering a financial crisis after giving ‘free’ healthcare to illegal aliens. Our border crisis is causing a depletion of resources meant for our citizens and it has to stop.

      We must close our border.

      We must deport every illegal.
      2:54 PM · Feb 6, 2023
      ·
      83.1K
      Views

    119. Tina says:

      Such a snake

      Chad Pergram

      @ChadPergram
      ·
      57m
      B) McConnell: There were others who wanted it, and I gave it to two other senators. No particular reprisal in mind. I had no animus toward Rick Scott at all.

    120. Waingro says:

      “I don’t think trafalgar has a stake in the primary contest”

      Doesn’t matter. Their polling was exposed as total garbage last cycle.

    121. Tina says:

      And club for ccp growth is garbage this time as they have a stake.

    122. Paul says:

      We need more immigrants to help our economy. Don’t give a f&ck if they are legal or not.

    123. Paul says:

      Tina is trash.

    124. Tina says:

      InteractivePolls
      @IAPolls2022
      ·
      7h
      CBS Poll – Are Biden’s policies…

      Making your own family’s finances better or worse?

      Better – 18%
      Worse – 49%

      Making political division better or worse?

      Better – 19%
      Worse – 50%

      Making illegal immigration better or worse?

      Better – 21%
      Worse – 51%

    125. Tgca says:

      I was going to watch the SOTU tonight but then I realized walking around the lake today that a few residents didn’t pick up their dog’s poop so I will do some community service.

      Priorities people! Priorities.

    126. Robbie says:

      Bonchie
      @bonchieredstate

      Donald Trump is now sharing false conspiracies of DeSantis being a pedophile first invented by the Gillum campaign.

      Totally something a confident front-runner does and not a deranged, desperate lunatic who knows he’s in trouble.

      – This is the man Jason fraud, Tgca, and so many others want to be president. Pathetic.

    127. jason says:

      first invented by the Gillum campaign.”

      Your candidate?

      Did you complain about it then?

    128. jason says:

      Totally something a confident front-runner does and not a deranged, desperate lunatic who knows he’s in trouble.”

      So there is nothing to worry about?

      The Golden Calf has it in the bag, right?

      Of course your candidate is a doddering old fool who can’t find his way off the stage, so don’t cast stones at Trump.

    129. jason says:

      Last time I checked in here, jason said he was supporting DeSantis over Trump (because of the age difference I believe?). Has that changed?”

      Not only the age difference, the Golden Calf could be there for 8 years.

      Plus, I would actually vote for him while Amoral Scumbag, who endorsed a communist to keep the Golden Calf from office, would not vote for him in a million years.

      We have seen this movie so many times before.

    130. jason says:

      Don’t get me wrong, I would LOVE to see Trump as President, but he is too old to personally be the face of the GOP going forward.

      Hopefully, the GOP will see its future as a working class populist party, and they have Trump to thank for that.

    131. jason says:

      -This is just so wrong!

      Isn’t that right, jason?”

      I think tariffs should always be avoided. I don’t know what the impact would be on US aluminum prics and on inflation, the article was blocked to me.

      That has to be weighed against the need to make Russia suffer for its invasion.

      If the tariffs are only going to impact the US consumers and not really affect Russia, which is basically what tariffs do, then yes, it would be sooooo wrong.

    132. Tgca says:

      Jadon is an ageist! He hates old people.

      Such self-loathing person…sad. 🙁

    133. Tina says:

      I forgot the Russian Hoaxer was for the bathroom floor guy.

    134. Tgca says:

      Actually, I think early to mid 40s is a bit young to be POTUS. I think at least 50 is best unless you’re an old soul.

      Sorry! But there is something to be said of age, wisdom, and experience.

      The last two 40-something presidents, JFK and Clinton, in my opinion lacked experience to handle certain issues even though they were popular with certain groups.

      I’ve also seen it in Corporate America. Often times younger execs in their 30s and early 40s still have a bit of that immaturity in them and struggle to handle situations a more seasoned leader can.

    135. Tgca says:

      McCarthy says he won’t repeat Pelosi ‘theatrics’ and rip up Biden’s SOTU speech

      I agree! Very theatrical and childish behavior not becoming of the Speaker.

      Instead, he should have 535 white balloons drop from the ceiling at the conclusion of Biden’s speech.

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mccarthy-wont-rip-up-bidens-sotu-speech-repeat-pelosis-theatrics-trump

    136. Tgca says:

      DeSantis Floats Lowering Bar for Media Defamation Lawsuits

      This is a problem I have with certain GOP gubbernors, and DeSanctimonius in particular.

      STOP trying to legislate behavior. If it can be done in conservative states, it can be done in liberal states too.

      SCOTUS has already ruled in decisions about what constitutes free speech, slander, etc. Let’s use law-making for real serious issues and not political props.

      I get it’s annoying and not always fair but if both sides do this because they have the votes, then you can’t complain on one side or the other.

      Trying to shut people down with punitive laws can come back to haunt you.

      People rightfully complain about DOJ weaponizing gubbermint against those that disagree with them but what DeSanctimonius did to Disney and is suggesting here is pretty much the same thing.

      https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/desantis-defamation-lawsuits/2023/02/07/id/1107714/

    137. Bitterlaw says:

      Show time!

    138. Bitterlaw says:

      Biden asks Chief Justice for Order to allow him to go to Super Bowl with his wife. Seriously.

    139. Bitterlaw says:

      More jokes. “Mr. Speaker, at the risk of ruining your reputation I look forward to working with you.”

    140. Bitterlaw says:

      The economy is great. Putin’s war is unfair and brutal.

      Ted Cruz looks pissed. But he always looks pissed.

    141. Bitterlaw says:

      Parents have to sit in McDonald’s parking lots to get Wi-Fi for their children to do homework.

    142. Bitterlaw says:

      Here comes the spending spree.

      Big Pharma is gouging diabetics for insulin.

    143. Bitterlaw says:

      Biden is firmly opposed to forest fires.

      The climate is going to kill us.

    144. Bitterlaw says:

      Here comes the tax hikes on the evil rich. But Biden is a capitalist.

    145. Bitterlaw says:

      Blaming Trump for the national debt.

    146. Bitterlaw says:

      Some Republicans are yelling at Biden for claiming the GOP wants to end Social Security and Medicare.

    147. Tina says:

      Quittens Romney app,adding Biden

      What about Biden’s Beotch?

    148. Tina says:

      Biden’s Beotch with a Ukrainian color tie.

      Ridiculous.

    149. Bitterlaw says:

      Romney was not clapping when many Dems were. Are you actually watching, Tina?

    150. Bitterlaw says:

      I hope that 5 minutes after the speech they authorize another $20 billion for Ukraine.

    151. Bitterlaw says:

      Parents of black man beaten by police honored.

    152. NYCmike says:

      #155 – might as well appropriate more $$ to build the FBI a building on the west coast as well, and give more $$ to the TSA and IRS while your at it.

      Omnibus for all! E pluribus bankruptum!

    153. Bitterlaw says:

      Time for anti-gun laws.

    154. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      When does Chris Wallace chime in and claim this is the best SOTU address EVER like he said after Biden’s inaugural address?!

    155. Tina says:

      I saw the nurse with a strippers outfit.

    156. Tina says:

      Complete Bs.

      PolitiFact

      @PolitiFact
      ·
      Follow
      In the #StateOfTheUnion, Biden said “30 million workers had to sign non-compete agreements when they took a job. So a cashier at a burger place can’t cross the street to take the same job at another burger place to make a couple bucks more.” False.

    157. Bitterlaw says:

      You either want Putin to lose or you don’t. I want Putin to lose.

    158. Tina says:

      Ccp Biden is rattled.

      Very angry old man.

    159. Tina says:

      I am sure Faux News will rush to Biden’s aid.

      Faux can be just as bad as Cn and n or Mslsd.

      Cur your cable bill.

    160. Bitterlaw says:

      Biden supports Ukraine against Putin’s war.

      (Good. Too bad so many Republicans are committed to Russian victory.)

    161. Bitterlaw says:

      More money for Vets and fighting cancer.

    162. NYCmike says:

      #165 – how many times will you repeat such nonsense?

      Between you, jason and Tgca, Lord have mercy on us!

    163. Bitterlaw says:

      How many times will you pretend that opposing military aid to Ukraine is not the same as supporting a victory for Putin? It is. Putin appreciates useful morons like Tucker Carlson.

    164. Bitterlaw says:

      Biden reminds everybody how the evil Republicans tried to destroy America on January 6, 2021.

    165. Bitterlaw says:

      And the speech ends.

    166. NYCmike says:

      #168 – pretend is the correct word – I’ll never accuse you of not knowing yourself.

    167. Bitterlaw says:

      You lie to yourself every day, NYC. You support Putin winning. Own it.

    168. Bitterlaw says:

      Good response by Gov. Huckabee Sanders. And very few saw it.

    169. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      February 7, 2023 at 10:56 pm

      You lie to yourself every day, NYC. You support Putin winning. Own it.”

      Of course he does.

      But at least little Putin stooge and spokesman Tucker Carlson was man enough to own up that he rooting for Putin.

      NYC should stop pretending he is not.

    170. jason says:

      You lie to yourself every day, NYC.”

      Yah thinks? I think he just lies here.

    171. jason says:

      Saw this on Twitter. Spot on.

      Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “I’m the first woman to lead my state and [Biden] is the first man to surrender his presidency to a woke mob that can’t even tell you what a woman is.”

    172. Cash Cow TM says:

      I was with Walt at his guitar lessons.

      Missed the SOTU address.

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      I think I am probably better off for it.

    173. NYCmike says:

      https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2023/02/07/mccarthy-to-u-s-chamber-of-course-you-realize-this-means-war-n529028

      -McCarthy making the right enemies, hope it continues.

      jason to rush to reflexively support the Chamber of CCP Commerce in 3….2…1……

    174. NYCmike says:

      Just like when MD was here, the two A-Holes need to back each other up as they fabricate lies about what others believe and whom they support, as if their are only 2 options.

    175. NYCmike says:

      Sarah H Sanders is a wonderful speaker. Great job!

    176. Bitterlaw says:

      There are only 2 options in the war. You either support Ukraine winning or you support Russia winning. I support Ukraine.

    177. jason says:

      The state controlled media loved Biden’s speech. What a surprise.

      “Alexander Nazaryan·Senior White House Correspondent

      WASHINGTON — President Biden was chatting with members of Congress after his State of the Union address when a booming voice rose above the chamber’s cacophony: “Mr. President, that was awesome!”

      The voice belonged to Rep. Jamaal Bowman, D-N.Y., a progressive Democrat and not an especially close Biden ally. But the sentiment was reflective of how many in the party felt about Biden’s message and delivery on Tuesday night.

      Feisty, combative and energetic, Biden seemed to relish in drawing a contrast with a Republican Party he treated at times with gentle but needling condescension. “Lots of luck in your senior year,” he told GOP members seeking to repeal last year’s Inflation Reduction Act.

      Partisan differences aside, Biden’s paeans to American exceptionalism could have been borrowed from Ronald Reagan. Heading into the evening, Biden was facing a concerted opposition from his own party on the question of whether he should seek a second term, just as Reagan did in 1984.

      While he has not yet announced that he will seek reelection, Tuesday night will almost certainly serve to bolster Biden’s conviction that the 2024 election is too important to hand off to someone else.”

      The article went on to decry the “lack of civility”. No it didn’t mention Nancy Pelosi tearing up Trump’s speech.

    178. jason says:

      as if their are only 2 options.”

      LOL

      Well, the war is between Russia and Ukraine.

      I support Ukraine.

    179. jason says:

      Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “We are under attack in a left wing culture war we didn’t start, and never wanted to fight. Every day we are told we must partake in their rituals, salute their flags, and worship their false idols…That’s not normal. It’s crazy, and it’s wrong.”

    180. jason says:

      Tina says:
      February 7, 2023 at 7:58 pm

      I forgot the Russian Hoaxer was for the bathroom floor guy”

      Yep, and Amoral Scumbag was here trashing the Golden Calf as a “trump clone, a total bum and a clown”.

    181. jason says:

      I guess the NHL isn’t woke enough…

      “Labor Secretary Marty Walsh is the designated survivor for President Biden’s State of the Union address, according to a White House official.

      Walsh as Labor secretary is the 11th in the presidential line of succession. Walsh is expected to step down from his job in the Biden administration to take over as head of the National Hockey League Players’ Association, a source familiar with the matter confirmed to The Hill earlier on Tuesday. He will be the first Senate-confirmed Cabinet official in the line of succession to leave the White House since Biden took office.”

    182. jason says:

      Rep. George Santos describes, to me, his exchange with Sen. Mitt Romney during the State of the Union tonight:

      Mitt: You don’t belong here.

      Santos: Go tell that to the 142K that voted for me.

      Mitt: You’re an ass.

      Santos: You’re a much bigger a–hole.

    183. jason says:

      Should have been in quotes. Santos didn’t say that to me.

    184. jason says:

      Key Putin ally says Poland will be the next to be invaded and “de-Nazified”.

      Putin appeasing trained seals to stand up and clap in 3, 2, 1…

      “A key ally of Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said he wants to invade Poland after Russia takes over Ukraine.

      Ramzan Kadyrov, the Kremlin-appointed leader of Chechnya, said on Monday that Poland is in his sights as the next country that Russia could “denazify and demilitarize” — the excuse Russia gave in justifying its invasion of Ukraine.

      “What if, after the successful completion of the NMD, Russia begins to denazify and demilitarize the next country? After all, after Ukraine, Poland is on the map! I will not hide that I personally have such an intention,” Kadyrov said.

      “I have repeatedly stated that the fight against Satanism should continue throughout Europe and, first of all, on the territory of Poland,” he added.

    185. jason says:

      So these might come in handy…

      “US approves $10 bn sale of Himars rocket launchers to Poland

      The United States on Tuesday announced its approval of a $10 billion sale of 18 Himars precision rocket launchers plus ammunition and other equipment to Poland, a NATO ally that borders conflict-hit Ukraine.

      “The proposed sale will improve Poland’s military goals of updating capability while further enhancing interoperability with the United States and other allies,” the Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a statement.

      “Poland intends to use these defense articles and services to modernize its armed forces and expand its capability to strengthen its homeland defense and deter regional threats,” it added.

      Himars launchers have played a key role in Ukraine’s fight against Moscow’s invasion, allowing Kyiv’s forces to carry out precision strikes on supply dumps and other Russian positions.”

    186. Phil says:

      Take over Poland? LOL With what exactly? Good luck with that…..and people in hell want ice water. Even Putin isn’t that delusional.

    187. Gordon Allen says:

      Bitter: Who won the Korean War?

    188. Bitterlaw says:

      The armed conflict ended with an armistice on July 27, 1953. Decades of skirmishes and low level conflicts occurred but the DMZ has held. There is no Treaty.

      Who won? South Korea is strong economic power and independent democracy. North Korea is an economic disaster under the control of tyrants for decades. It can launch missiles but has trouble feeding its soldiers.

      South Korea, America, and the nations that supported South Korea won.

    189. jason says:

      Yeah, the Korean War was definitely a victory.

      And Vietnam could have had the same outcome had the war been fought differently.

    190. jason says:

      Technically the Korean War has not ended. But I would say we are winning.

    191. jason says:

      Enjoy Trump’s response to SOTU. If nothing else it will trigger the TDS morons, so that has a lot of value.

      “Here’s the real State of the Union. Over the past two years under Biden, millions and millions of illegal aliens from 160 different countries have stormed across our Southern border. Drug cartels are now raking in billions of dollars from smuggling poison to kill our people and to kill our children. Savage killers, rapists and violent criminals are being released from jail to continue their crime wave and under Biden the murder rate has reached the highest in the history of our country.Biden and the radical Democrats have wasted trillions of dollars and caused the worst inflation in half a century. Real wages are down 21 months in a row. Gas prices have soared and are now going up much higher than even before and the typical American family is paying $2,200 in increased energy and food costs each year.Joe Biden’s weaponized Justice Department, and I’m a victim of it, is persecuting his political opponents. His administration is waging war on free speech. They’re trying to indoctrinate and mutilate our children. He’s leading us to the brink of World War III. And on top of all of that, he’s the most corrupt president in American history, and it’s not even close. But the good news is we are going to reverse every single crisis, calamity and disaster that Joe Biden has created. I am running for President to end the destruction of our country and to complete the unfinished business of Making America Great Again. We will make our country better than ever before, and we will always put America First. Thank you.

    192. Bitterlaw says:

      Unfortunately, Trump’s position on Ukraine has been weak so far.

    193. Tgca says:

      So I wake up this morning to find out the 1st Lady is having an affair with or banging the VPs husband, flaunting it on national TV by locking lips and the MSM is silent to this.

      Doesn’t surprise me since the Biden’s were fine with Hunter screwing his dead brothers wife. I guess the Biden’s have an open marriage now – didn’t know they were gay.

      This and Biden pushing trannies in his SOTU, the Grammy’s celebrating Satanism sponsored by Pfizer show the US is in moral decay.

      Disgusting!

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/02/07/first-lady-jill-biden-and-second-gentleman-doug-emhoff-kiss-ahead-of-biden-state-of-the-union/

    194. Bitterlaw says:

      Gordon – Since you asked me, what are your thoughts on the Korean War?

    195. Gordon Allen says:

      Bitter. The point was wars can end with each side claiming victory.
      North Korea and China claim they won by defeating the US led attempt at overrunning NKorea and invading China. WE Claim the successful defense of S Korea’s sovereignty.
      Ditto for the Wat of 1812,with both claiming victory; Britain defeating the US invasion of Canada,and us defeating the British invasion of the US.
      Ukraine presents a definitional issue. You feel victory is a return to the status quo of 2/23/22),whereas Zelensky defines it as returning to the status quo of 2013.
      Other than Zelensky’s being unattainable, a war is difficult when it’s goal is not defined.
      Biden seems to be with your definition, which absolutely is not that of Zelensky.
      Just trying to make that observation.

    196. Waingro says:

      Political Polls
      @Politics_Polls
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      1h
      2024 National Republican Primary:

      Trump 42% (-2 from January poll)
      DeSantis 32% (Even from January poll)
      Pence 8%
      Haley 5%
      Cruz 3%
      Rubio 3%

      .
      @YouGovAmerica
      /
      @TheEconomist
      , 409 Adults, 2/4-7
      https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/gg0t2njevs/econTabReport.pdf

    197. Bitterlaw says:

      Lots of words. Answer the question you asked me. Who won the Korean War?

    198. Paul says:

      Poland isn’t crazy talk. I assume that a land bridge between Belarus and Kaliningrad has been in Putin’s plans for decades. And that means invading Poland.

    199. Waingro says:

      I’ve never heard of this polling outlet. Smells trashy. But FWIW:

      Political Polls
      @Politics_Polls
      ·
      7m
      2024 National Republican Primary:

      Trump 57% (+29)
      DeSantis 28%
      Pence 5%
      Cruz 3%
      Haley 2%
      Cheney 2%
      T. Scott 1%
      .
      Head-2-Head:
      Trump 56% (+20)
      DeSantis 36%

      .
      @premisedata
      , 629 RV, 2/3-6
      https://premise.com/wp-content/uploads/Bi-Weekly-Political-Sentiment-Tracker-February-6th-2023.pdf

    200. Waingro says:

      This poll shows a much tighter race, but also evidences how Haley would be nothing more than a kamakazi campaign that would only benefit Trump.

      Political Polls
      @Politics_Polls
      ·
      8m
      2024 National Republican Primary:

      Trump 38%
      DeSantis 35%
      Haley 11%
      .
      DeSantis 45%
      Trump 41%

      .@YouGovAmerica/@YahooNews, 2/2-6
      https://news.yahoo.com/poll-desantis-leads-trump-for-2024-gop-nod–but-not-if-haley-and-others-split-the-vote-175359642.html

    201. Tina says:

      I don’t know why Quittens picked a fight with santos.

      That lacks common sense and decorum by Quittens,

    202. Tgca says:

      Wow! Biden has turned the country around.

      Texas has enormous 2023 budget surplus – $33B. Of course you have to consider this per capita, so for Texas, it’s like $1,100 per resident.

      Other states have larger per capita surpluses but so far Texas is the largest I found in large states.

      Florida is also up there but not the top at $23B or around $1,000 per capita.

      Alaska looks highest I’ve seen so far with $1.9B or $2,500 per capita.

      Also, 33 states are cutting taxes in 2023.

      I’m still analyzing and will share for a fee.

    203. Bitterlaw says:

      Santos is a disgrace and an embarrassment. He can still in the House but be ignored..

    204. Bitterlaw says:

      Of course, despite being a disgrace and an embarrassment, Santos is still better than a Democrat.

    205. Tgca says:

      209

      I dunno about Dems are better in THIS case but I agree he should NOT be forced out of his seat.

      I would prefer he resign his seat under the circumstances but he won’t so that’s his choice and the voters can decide his fate in the next election.

      Santos should not be held to a higher standard than Dems or GOP candidates who routinely lie through their teeth about their background, history, and accomplishments.

    206. Tina says:

      Exactly, he should have been ignored.

      Quittens phiqed up.

    207. Waingro says:

      #206, Romney has become a bitter and angry person since becoming a U.S. senator.

    208. Tina says:

      Quittens lost the exchange.

      Then ran to the compos to cry.

    209. Tina says:

      The Fib is out of control.

      Jack Posobiec ????????

      @JackPosobiec
      ·
      11m
      BREAKING: Internal FBI report labels Catholics who attend Latin Mass as Racial Violent Extremists, cites discredited SPLC articles

    210. Tina says:

      And Biden did say on 2/2/22 that “we will end nord stream 2.”

    211. Tina says:

      Victoria dumbland did say in late January 2022 we will not move forward with nord 2.

    212. Bitterlaw says:

      Seymour Hersh is a lefty contributor to Democracy Now! Maybe his report is true. Maybe it isn’t.

    213. NYCmike says:

      “Unfortunately, Trump’s position on Ukraine has been weak so far.”

      -Oh Lord.

      What he says publicly and what he would have the military do is, if you were watching while he was President, usually not the same.

      He was always accused of being soft towards Russia, yet they didn’t make any noise for 4 years, and their economy struggled because the price of fuel was so much lower.

    214. NYCmike says:

      Santos deserves to be laughed at.

      Of course, those here who never oppose an incumbent will support him…….

    215. Tgca says:

      I think this is wrong. I do not believe in legislation that targets critics simply because they’re critics, left or right.

      This is dangerous!

      What DeSanctimonius and Floreedah GOP is doing against Disney is no different than what leftist Dems are doing or the DOJ targeting those that disagree with them.

      A few points to consider:

      1st, there is over $1B in debt a new jurisdiction will have to take in because local communities want nothing to do with absorbing the costs.

      2nd, the new community leaders are barred from being associated with Disney. That means all the expertise about running an industry-specific district will now be handle by non-industry new hires who lack industry experience. That is a major economic and safety issue.

      3rd, does anyone believe elected bureaucrats are going to do better at running an area run well by a company for 50 years?

      This proposed bill is pure pettiness and not in the best interest of Floridians either financially or for safety reasons.

      I have seen such nonsense happen in local juridictions across the US, where non-experienced bureaucrats failed in providing safe and adequate services to the detriment of residents. Think issues we’ve seen with safety of municipal water and distribution systems as examples.

      https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/02/08/ron-desantis-is-about-to-end-disneys-unprecedented-power-over-the-magic-kingdom/

    216. Bitterlaw says:

      Trump opposed sending tanks to Ukraine. I completely disagree with him. His statement about ending the war was more of the desire for Ukraine to surrender.

    217. Tina says:

      Manu Raju

      @mkraju
      ·
      38m
      Asked McCarthy about Romney saying he was disappointed that the speaker hasn’t called on Santos to resign. “Romney should be disappointed that Swalwell hasn’t resigned,” McCarthy said

    218. NYCmike says:

      #186 – NHL is really trying to ruin themselves.

      Hate to see it.

    219. Pitchaboy says:

      The damage done by the FBI raids on Trump’s numbers are reversing after Biden’s documents stealing. DJT is the front runner at this point in time.

    220. Pitchaboy says:

      By the time 2024 comes around, Americans will tire of sending money to Ukraine, just war or not.

    221. Robbie says:

      Teddy Schleifer
      @teddyschleifer

      Oracle chairman LARRY ELLISON has told other Republicans that he really wants Tim Scott to run for president.

      Ellison has entrusted Scott’s team with $35 million of his money. There is probably much more to come.

      – Looks like Larry Ellison wants Trump to win.

    222. Robbie says:

      I see some of the Trump fluffers who went quiet after his awful slate of candidates lost last November are back pimping their man Donnie.

    223. NYCmike says:

      Robbie, the Biden supporter, checks in.

    224. jason says:

      Amoral Scumbag thinks anyone that doesn’t support the Golden Calf wants Trump to win.

      Zzzzzz……

    225. jason says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      February 8, 2023 at 5:03 pm

      By the time 2024 comes around, Americans will tire of sending money to Ukraine, just war or not.”

      Hope springs eternal for the Putin loyalists.

    226. jason says:

      North Korea and China claim they won by defeating the US led attempt at overrunning NKorea and invading China.”

      LOL

      Who cares what they think?

      Their goal was to overrun South Korea. They failed. South Korea is not communist and is an economic success, North Korea is a shih-ole under every aspect.

      The US was not trying to invade China, China invaded Korea to fight against the US.

      Neville Allen needs to buy better magazines and video games.

    227. Pitchaboy says:

      The stupidity here astounds me. To correlate a statement that people will tire of Ukraine spending to Putin loyalty is ridiculous. But such are some idiots out here.

    228. NYCmike says:

      “By the time 2024 comes around, Americans will tire of sending money to Ukraine, just war or not.””

      -Meantime, all the government had to do was apply metrics on the shipments we sent them, and the American people would probably maintain support for the effort……..but that was too much for those who allow our representatives and bureaucracy to engage in their grift.

    229. Pitchaboy says:

      I couldn’t care less if he dropped dead now. At some point people will care about billions of dollars going down a corrupt manhole.

    230. NYCmike says:

      Pitch,

      Don’t be astounded. jason has been doing this for 2 decades now.

    231. Pitchaboy says:

      The lack of a modicum of nuance in the thought process is breathtaking.

    232. NYCmike says:

      https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/02/08/bombshell-yep-it-looks-like-team-biden-blew-up-europes-nord-stream-pipeline-n1668984

      -If true, this is disgusting.

      But Robbie, “devout Roman Catholic and conservative Republican”, approves.

    233. Pitchaboy says:

      Putin can burn in hell. And the US can be wary of how it throws its money around in this war. As BL would say, both can be true.

    234. NYCmike says:

      #239 – exactly.

    235. Pitchaboy says:

      Accomplishments under Robbie’s man:
      1. Price of gas up 50%
      2. Inflation through the roof
      3. Mortgage rates more than doubled
      4. Wage growth stalled
      5. More deaths from Coronavirus despite vaccines handed to him
      6. Fentanyl crisis through the roof.
      7. 5 and 6 adding upto a decline in lifespan of Americans two years in a row.

      Vote Biden 2024.

    236. Tina says:

      They are tired now if the spending and the grifting

      Biden’s beitch could have won the senate assuming he used this.

    237. Tina says:

      Going full anti vax

      Cutting social security and Medicare

      More buckets of $ to the Grifter

      Not enhancing the ccp.

      Aka the Paublo Ryano/faux news candidate won’t win the ge

    238. NYCmike says:

      https://cdrsalamander.substack.com/p/the-failure-of-the-institutions

      -Good read, and also shows why Trump should have been celebrated for going after NATO “allies” for their underspending and their lack of preparation/training.

      Our institutions need to be under the microspope at all times, to make sure they are performing the objectives for which they were created.

      Blind allegiance to any institution, organization, principle etc etc is not a good thing.

      ALWAYS QUESTION! Funny enough, the first person I recall telling me and others this was my 3rd grade CCD (religious instruction) teacher.

      Wes should like that!

    239. Tgca says:

      244

      Who is Wes?

      Was he a poster here at one time?

      Did he go the way of Polaris?

    240. NYCmike says:

      https://reason.com/2023/02/08/sarah-huckabee-sanders-state-of-the-union-response-offers-a-grim-glimpse-of-the-gops-future/

      -Looks like Reason/libertarians don’t think there is a culture war going on at all.

    241. Tgca says:

      Madonna Blames ‘Ageism and Misogyny,’ ‘Long Lens Camera’ for Comments about her Face at Grammys

      I know they’ll take away my gay card for saying this but…

      No Madge! It’s because you look f*ckin’ HIDEOUS!!!

      You’re in your mid-60s and you cake your face with make-up not suiting your complexion or structure, you wear your hair in an unflattering manner that doesn’t accentuate any attributes you have left, and you over do it with surgical and cosmetic procedures.

      You’ve become a caricature and you’re the Michael Jackson of the 2020s in an effort to try and look young and compete and make statements.

      If everybody is talking about it, men and women alike, it says something about your look and not them.

      Take some lessons from others like Jaclyn Smith, Susan Sarandon, Sally Fields, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Sigourney Weaver, women older than you who have aged gracefully without going to extremes.

      Grow up and take accountability for a failed effort to stand out, damn skanky azz Bish.

      https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/02/08/madonna-blames-ageism-and-misogyny-long-lens-camera-for-comments-about-her-face-at-grammys/

    242. JeffP says:

      This really is no surprise based on todays story by Pulizer Prize winning US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh the US and Norway worked together on blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines. Norway is a US vassal and competitor of Russia in natural gas sales to Europe.This has several major implications:

      Jens Stoltenberg leads NATO and was Prime Minister of Norway for 8 years. There can be no doubt that he knew in advance about the pipeline attack, a betrayal of NATO members that had no interest in the pipeline destruction and its long term impact on their countries.

      Norway made a big mistake by participating in a US terror act against EU and Russian gas infrastructure. Norway itself relies on gas exports for its economy and Norways gas infrastructure is now going to be a target for Russian retribution.

      President Biden delivered a win to Putin by committing this act of terrorism in breach of international law and then accusing Russia of self-sabotage. Biden is exposed as a liar and terrorist in the eyes of unbiased observers.

      German Scholz is the big loser in this revelation. Who completely changed policy regarding Intervention that the majority of German leaders have held since the end of WW 2. The support of his Govt crumbles if he doesn’t respond in a strong way to the US attack against German interests. This nullified what political capital he had in involving Germany support in the war.

    243. JeffP says:

      This Nord Stream pipeline story will get the Uniparty and CIA Media treatment in the US. But don’t be fooled…it will be much harder in the EU to discredit and silence. Also other than the UK the Uniparty concept doesn’t exist in most EU countries. Finally common folk are far more informed regarding issues that impact their daily lives than in the US.

    244. Bitterlaw says:

      Seymour Hersch is a major contributor to this site:

      https://www.democracynow.org/

    245. Paul says:

      Will JeffP be quoting Roger Waters next concerning Ukraine?

    246. JeffP says:

      This explains both Putins and Zelenskyy desperation that is on display.

      The Ukrainian counter offensive to take control of Kharkiv gave me hope of the beginning of the end and Russia being nullified. But now this is really going to get ugly.

      https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/08/ukraine-russia-counteroffensive-abrams-tanks-putin-war/

    247. JeffP says:

      Mother, do you think they’ll drop the bomb?
      Mother, do you think they’ll like this song?
      Mother, do you think they’ll try to break my balls?
      Ooh, aah, mother, should I build the wall?

      Mother, should I run for president?
      Mother, should I trust the government?
      Mother, will they put me in the firing line?
      Ooh, aah, is it just a waste of time?

    248. Tina says:

      It is suspicious Jeffp

      Especially when the president and Victoria Nuttland make statements suggesting nord 2 demise.

      Needs a full congressional investigation.

    249. Tina says:

      I have linked the presidents statement as well as nuttlands.

      I questioned this right from the beginning.

    250. Paul says:

      The sun is in the east
      Even though the day is done.
      Two suns in the sunset
      Could be the human race is run.

    251. JeffP says:

      Biden is such a f up as a President. Two more years to go. He can do so much more damage to our country and the world. This fantasy of defeating Putin in a proxy war is ridiculously stupid with Medvedev waiting to succeed him.

    252. JeffP says:

      250 Anyone who wins the George Orwell award has cred with me.

      Old fashion classic liberal independent investigative journalists are pretty credible these days. In fact they are being called right wingers now. LOL.

    253. JeffP says:

      255 Tina yes I saw that. Joe thinks he is smart. The Germans will be furious with their energy prices. But Trump warned them…LOL. He has a history of being right with foreign affairs that goes back to the eighties.

    254. Tina says:

      Ratings plung for the State of Disunion.

      Down 29 percent

    255. Tina says:

      Jeffp I think the way trump handled foreign policy was the best R in a lifetime,

      Asking for the euro deadbeats to pay their fair share of nato is not extreme,

      It was in the r plank in 2000/ mute 43.

    256. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “The Yahoo News-YouGov poll found that DeSantis leads Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up, 45 percent to 41 percent. But with Haley in the mix, Trump leads with 38 percent support to DeSantis’s 35 percent and Haley’s 11 percent.

      Pollsters also found DeSantis leading President Biden in a hypothetical general election match-up, 44 percent to 43 percent, but Biden leads Trump by 6 points, 47 percent to 41 percent.”

    257. JeffP says:

      Mike Lee “ I’m troubled that I can’t immediately rule out the suggestion that the U.S. blew up Nord Stream. I checked with a bunch of Senate colleagues. Among those I’ve asked, none were ever briefed on this. If it turns out to be true, we’ve got a huge problem.”

      Hersh isn’t going to risk his reputation on a story like this and Lee knows it.

    258. JeffP says:

      262 SDC I am pretty confident that if Trump gets the Bernie Sanders treatment DeSantis will win the nomination.

      DeSantis doesn’t have the charisma Trump has but his replies thus far to Trumps attacks have been excellent. Being a very popular and successful Governor with the all American family with national credibility and military service would be a daunting task for Trump. His attacks won’t have the same impact as 2016 against grifter Governors and Senators with no administrative governing record.

    259. JeffP says:

      I listen to Pink Floyd for the David Gilmour guitar solos.

    260. JeffP says:

      I listened to Roger Waters tell the story of his father dying in WW 2 at Anzio and it’s lifelong impact on Rogan. Interesting story with his Dad being a commie and war objector but changed his stance during the London blitz as an ambulance driver.

      “Goodbye Blue Sky”

      [A child’s voice:]
      Look, Mummy. There’s an airplane up in the sky.

      Did, did, did, did you see the frightened ones?
      Did, did, did, did you hear the falling bombs?
      Did, did, did, did you ever wonder
      Why we had to run for shelter
      When the promise of a brave new world
      Unfurled beneath a clear blue sky?

      Did, did, did, did you see the frightened ones?
      Did, did, did, did you hear the falling bombs?
      The flames are all long gone
      But the pain lingers on

      Goodbye blue sky
      Goodbye blue sky
      Goodbye
      Goodbye

    261. jason says:

      “You said just possessing classified documents is ‘totally irresponsible’? So, what was totally irresponsible about the fact that you had some?”

      BIDEN: “They’ve informed me not to speak to this issue”

      LOL

    262. jason says:

      I see JeffP the Putin lapdog has a new excuse on why Ukraine should surrender … the Nord Stream pipeline.

      JeffP thinks it is “terrorism”, but he is fine with Putin terrorizing millions of Ukrainian civilians by bombing, displacing, exiling, torturing and raping that.

      No problem there.

    263. NYCmike says:

      jason will be through to China with a couple more shovel-fulls….

    264. jason says:

      I have bad news for JeffP.

      Not Germany or any other country will stop supporting Ukraine because of the Nord Stream pipeline.

    265. jason says:

      I see NYC the Putin stooge is up late to shill for his dear leader.

    266. JeffP says:

      The tanks will not be arrive any time soon before the coming offensive. They are sending shi* tanks too.

      Regarding Fighter jets that would bring a hot war to Germany for sure maybe Poland. Bombing a tank plant in Dresden would get their attention and Germans do not want a hot war on their turf. Trust me. If you live on the east coast you might want figure out a nuke bomb shelter and buy some Iodine pills. I should be safe where I live.

      BTW…Trumps assessment is spot on.

    267. Paul says:

      JeffP, what are tripping on?

    268. JeffP says:

      270 your clueless on how euros think. I go to Europe three times a year and know the cultures. They do not like what their leaders are doing in regards to Ukraine. The war sanctions and Nord Stream is a big deal for the everyday citizen.

    269. Paul says:

      I imagine many of them like what their leaders are doing. The leaders are not completely selfless-doing what is right even if it causes them to lose power.

    270. Paul says:

      JeffP: It depends on which Europeans. The nations that border Russia are firmly in favor of fighting Russia. They know that they are next if Russia wins.

    271. JeffP says:

      “Germany will not participate in raising the stakes in the issue of arms supplies to Ukraine.Germany will not make decisions that will make NATO a belligerent party in Ukraine.” – Olaf Scholz

      He talks out of both sides of his mouth. Lukewarm Jason.

    272. JeffP says:

      Biden committed an act of war. For those of you that don’t understand the gravity of this. This is how WW start. Just saying.

    273. JeffP says:

      Russia will not invade any NATO country like Poland that is ridiculous and you don’t understand the geo politics involved. Russia doesn’t want a war with the west. But the west wants a war using Ukraine. It’s really not difficult to understand.

    274. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      279. If Russia did not want a war, it should not have invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are the ones who fought back and prevented Putin from taking Kyiv. What is it going to take to get Russia to realize they have no business being in Ukraine?

    275. Tgca says:

      264 Jeffie

      I disagree.

      Trump will list all his accomplishments as POTUS.

      He will remind everyone he was right on everything he said would happen, and how Russia was not a problem under him.

      He will remind people of the instability around the world with China, Iran, North Korea, Russia, etc and how he handled them as DeSanctimonius won’t be able to contrast a single foreign policy achievement.

      DeSanctimonius will talk of his accomplishments in a state in which he inherited an excellent economy from Scott. His major accomplishments will be:

      Don’t Say Gay bill
      Attack Disney
      Provide $33 sales tax credit on purchasing gas stoves for 8% of the Floreedah population of which probably less than 1% or more will take advantage of, if even that. People don’t go out and buy $600+ stoves to save $33.

      Comparing experience and accomplishments between the two is like comparing the radiance of the sun to a flashlight, with DeSantimonius being the flashlight.

    276. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      279. According to Forbes, one prong of Russia’s new offensive has not been successful.

      “Smashed By Ukrainian Mines And Artillery, Russia’s Winter Offensive Just Ground To A Halt Outside Vuhledar”

    277. Tgca says:

      279

      I agree that Russia does not want a war with the west or NATO.

      I think Pootin invaded Ukraine because he saw weakness in the US and he is just pounding his chest and bullying, as dictators do.

      Russia knows they can’t win a conventional war against NATO and their economy would be destroyed.

      They are simply paranoid bullies like other dictators.

      It was a desperate ploy to take advantage of unrest in Ukraine due to an ongoing civil war with certain areas.

      Neighboring countries to Russia are overreacting. It’s like overreacting if there is a murder in your neighborhood that you will be murdered next. You have to look at context of the situation and not just the action itself.

    278. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      279 JeffP, are you forgetting some recent history?

      After making an agreement with Hitler, Russia invaded and occupied Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and eastern Poland. Russia attempted to occupy Finland, but Finnish resistance was too strong — and they entered into a peace treaty which gave Russia about 10% of Finland.

      After WW2, Russia reoccupied these countries (except Finland) and occupied a lot of other Eastern European countries,creating puppet governments. This situation ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union around 1990.

      Now Putin is seeking, in effect, to recreate the Soviet Union. If he succeeds in Ukraine, he will move on to his next targets

    279. JeffP says:

      284 Comparing Russias invasion of Ukraine to Hitlers agreements is all I need to know. The Russia Nationalists of today have a completely different perspective and motive than post WW2 Soviet Communists.

    280. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      jason & Bitter:
      He’s not going to make it for very long. No surprise.

      “U.S. Sen. John Fetterman, the Pennsylvania Democrat who suffered a stroke during his campaign last year, was hospitalized Wednesday night after feeling lightheaded, his office says.”

      Who will the Governor appoint to replace him? His wife? In the next election cycle, the GOP can, in theory, grab two Senate seats in PA!

    281. JeffP says:

      284 One major example is that Russia Nationalism today is they completely reject the WEF global agenda of CRT, global warming cult, transgender craziness, etc…they are serious when they refer to these people as Satanists.

    282. JeffP says:

      280 I don’t agree with Putin aggression to invade Ukraine. You ask what is going to take? Not completely sure but there is a lot of generational and religious history involved in the Russian Nationalist perspective. This isn’t just Putin. It’s a nationalist movement similar to Brexit, Trump, Italy now. They abhor the direction the west is taking on CRT, transgender, global warming cult, etc…

    283. Bitterlaw says:

      Fetterman looked tired and bored during SOTU. I don’t think Shapiro would appoint Fetterman’s wife. It is more likely he would appoint a black woman from Western PA (there must be some) or Philadelphia.

    284. Phil says:

      The plan all along was to replace Fetterman. Replace one commie with another. All for the cause.

    285. jason says:

      LOL

      So the “Russian nationalists” invade the sovereign country of Ukraine because they are against CRT?

      I tell you, the excuses JeffP comes up with to justify his idolatry of Putin and the invasion of Ukraine are becoming more and more hilarious.

      Nobody gives a crap what the “Russian nationalists” want. They are free to air their concerns INSIDE Russia.

      But in any case, that is all hogwash. This is about recreating a Greater Russia, a new Soviet Union.

      SDC puts in a nutsh-ll:

      “Now Putin is seeking, in effect, to recreate the Soviet Union. If he succeeds in Ukraine, he will move on to his next targets”

      The justifications on why this is ok are many. They are all trash. “Russian nationalism”? Zzzzz.

    286. jason says:

      Shapiro will try to appoint someone who can win an election.

      I don’t think it will be a black woman. I think it will be someone like Lamb.

    287. jason says:

      I predicted this. Only Tgca would eat phony baloney and associated chemically laden artificial “meats”.

      If vegetarians don’t like meat, why are they so anxious to eat fake meat has always been my question.

      “Not so long ago, alternative protein products like Beyond Meat and Impossible Burger promised to consign conventional beef, pork and chicken to the culinary dark ages. The companies’ stock prices soared, as did their market share. But consumers lost their appetite for fake meat in 2022, with the industry posting significant declines here in the US.

      Divorcing Americans from their carnivorous habits has always been an uphill battle. For nearly two centuries, a colorful cast of eccentrics and entrepreneurs have pushed alternatives to meat only to see the real thing regain its place of pride on the nation’s tables. Until fake meat is indistinguishable from the real thing — and poses no ethical dilemmas — we’re unlikely to see a change.

      [cue: sad trombone]

      Even what are considered the “best,” most accessible brands are having a really hard time in the marketplace right now, and it’s no wonder.

      Customers and investors alike are sticking a fork in fake meat.

      …But now, the sector’s overall fortunes appear to be waning, with prominent industry names facing headwinds from a slowing economy, and a loss of buzz.

      • Impossible Foods plans to lay off roughly 20% of its workforce, per a Bloomberg report. However, the company tells Axios that it saw record growth last year.

      • Impossible’s primary competitor, Beyond Meat, also cut roughly 20% of its workers, and lost several executives, amid its own stock slump.

      • Beyond Meat’s sales fell more than 22% in the third quarter of 2022 compared to 2021. In an Q3 earnings call, company executives blamed inflation for consumers’ souring tastes on pricier plant-based meats.

      • Beyond Meat’s stock is down roughly 67% compared to a year ago.”

    288. jason says:

      I haven’t seen any ads for fake burgers in months.

    289. jason says:

      Note that Putin propagandists like JeffP always start their posts with “I am against the invasion” but then proceed on all the “justifications” for the invasion.

      There is no justification. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

    290. jason says:

      And btw Putin is a KGB thug. So let’s not make “Russian Nationalism” any kind of buffer against the WEF agenda. Putin is a despotic dictator that allows no dissension and is the poster child for the “Uniparty”. There is nothing “positive” about Russian Nationalism.

    291. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11730901/Pink-Floyds-Roger-Waters-says-Ukraine-not-really-country-run-Nazis.html

      Damn. I thought the Gallagher brothers of Oasis were mad at each other. Pink Floyd is really divided.

    292. Bitterlaw says:

      If the Russia nationalists issued a statement against US reparations to black Americans, JeffP would cheer Russian tanks rolling into Kyiv and blasting orphanages.

    293. Tina says:

      According to the State Department (for Ccp affairs), the spy ballon was able to obtain intelligence.

    294. JeffP says:

      Jason I am honored that you attack me as some sort of Putin loving Russia agent like Trump was attacked by the media and “deep state”….LOL

    295. JeffP says:

      Reparations…no…this has real money involved and national security in the future.

      The Biden and EU/WEF’s green fantasies will destroy the energy supply of the West as China, Russia, India, and others march forward with fossil fuels & nuclear power. EU’s economy & national security have also been harmed by green/woke cult to control your life. How about banning gas stoves?

      Anyone else notice the alternative banking and international financial system being setup including China and Russia?

      Just adds more fuel to the war fire. Keep rooting for the fighter jets to Ukraine. Sooner the better…sarcasm. Hope our military is gay enough for battle. God help us.

    296. Waingro says:

      Kristen Holmes
      @KristenhCNN
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      New Monmouth Poll:”When asked who they would like to see as the Republican nominee for president in 2024, GOP voters come up with 2 names as top-of-mind preferences –DeSantis (33%) & Trump (33%)”
      In hypothetical head-to-head:DeSantis leads Trump 53% to 40%

    297. Pitchaboy says:

      Does Emperor Desantis have his clothes on: we will find out after the first couple of debates.

    298. Tina says:

      Looks like Jim Jordan caught baker in a perjury trap.

      https://twitter.com/SaltyGoat17/status/1623666083461824513

    299. jason says:

      If the Russia nationalists issued a statement against US reparations to black Americans, JeffP would cheer Russian tanks rolling into Kyiv and blasting orphanages.”

      LOL

    300. jason says:

      Keep rooting for the fighter jets to Ukraine. ”

      JeffP is very concerned the Russians wouldn’t have air superiority to keep bombing civilians in Ukraine.

    301. jason says:

      The Biden and EU/WEF’s green fantasies will destroy the energy supply of the West”

      Bitter, we have reason #375 by the Putin stooge on why Ukraine should surrender.

    302. Tgca says:

      303 Pitch

      DeSanctimonius has had the benefit of a very friendly near super-majority legislature and a friendly court system so he gets little pushback.

      That is not what he would face on the national level and I bet it would bring out more defensiveness in him then we already routinely see here in Floreedah.

      He is already despised by the MSM and left because of the Don’t Say Gay bill and CRT push so if he were the candidate he will find a press as equally adversarial as Trump did. It will be 24/7 attacks, and because like Trump, he is cocky, thin-skinned, and defensive, I think he would find it challenging making the transition from getting things handed to him.

      But his biggest problem 1st is trying to explain why he would be a better choice than a successful president like Trump when he’s NEVER had any comparable accomplishments. and who 75% of the party thinks was cheated out of a 2nd term.

      It’s like comparing a flashlight to the sun. DeSanctimonius looks small and inconsequential compared to Trump in accomplishments.

      Arguing personality or age ain’t gonna do it. Most Americans would gladly have Trump back now over Biden.

    303. jason says:

      Jason I am honored that you attack me as some sort of Putin loving Russia”

      It’s not an attack, just a statement of fact.

      100% of your posts on this issue are either to advocate for Ukraine’s surrender or to somehow justify Putin’s invasion, or both.

      If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and looks like a duck, it’s a duck.

    304. jason says:

      Russian bombers are flying over the sovereign country of Ukraine right now attacking Ukraine’s infrastructure and civilian population.

      The objection to providing fighter jets so Ukraine can shoot them down over THEIR OWN TERRITORY are what exactly?

      There would be only one reason to want to ensure the Russians have free reign to bomb anything they want in Ukraine. And that is wanting the Russians to win.

      It’s time for the Putin Brigade to come clean. Make your case for why you want Putin to annex Ukraine and why you think this would have no consequences, but let’s stop pretending that any of the excuses of why its ok for Putin to invade Ukraine are anything but support for the invasion.

    305. JeffP says:

      Watching Senate hearing on the China ballon during lunch.. These people in charge asking and answering the questions are ridiculously inept and unprofessional. We are screwed.

    306. JeffP says:

      311 Jason you can root on the escalation all day that’s fine. If your really concerned and worried about more innocent people dying you would encourage peace talks. But your not. Your attempt to take the moral high ground with me is hypocritical and disgusting.

    307. Paul says:

      JeffP: If Ukraine had been an easy acquisition, there is no doubt that Russia would be moving into Poland next. Not necessarily to take over Poland but to create a corridor to Kaliningrad. The Russian people would feel it is justified so that they can have access to a northern port that isn’t frozen half the year.

      Additionally, the civil war in Ukraine in the Donbass region was created by Russia. That was the first stage of the invasion in 2014.

    308. Pitchaboy says:

      The Russians had no business going into Ukraine. The US response went from “not our problem” to “ help with defense only” to now offense. Without a doubt a proxy war is being waged by the US and parts of Europe against an unaccountable dictator with a huge nuclear arsenal. I guess this goes for good foreign policy these days. And if you dare question it, you are a Putin Puppet.

    309. Bitterlaw says:

      Peace talks before Russia pulls its troops back to the pre-invasion border is Ukrainian surrender.

    310. Bitterlaw says:

      RIP, Burt Bacharach.

    311. jason says:

      I am all for “peace talks” AFTER the Russian go back to pre-invasion borders.

      Anything else is surrender.

      JeffP is a flaming hypocrite who is “against more innocent people dying” but at the same time encourages the Russians to continue to do just that.

      And not only encourages them to do just that, he wants to ensure they continue to do just that unopposed.

      Moral high ground? Your cheerleading for Putin’s war crimes are what is despicable and disgusting.

    312. jason says:

      Jason you can root on the escalation ”

      LOL

      Anything done to protect Ukranians is an “escalation”.

      But Russia can invade, kill, destroy, bomb, displace, and exile at will, that is NOT escalation.

      Here is JeffP’s definition of escalation:

      “Anything that impedes Putin from annexing Ukraine”

    313. jason says:

      The US response went from “not our problem” to “ help with defense only” to now offense.”

      What “offense” you Putin stooge moron idiot?

      The war is being fought 100% on Ukrainian territory.

      There is no “offense” here, every single weapon provided is to defend Ukraine’s sovereignty.

      But of course you must really know that, you just must feel obliged to parrot Kremlin talking points.

    314. jason says:

      Watching the British Parliament.

      They are talking about trying Putin for war crimes “as soon as the war is over”.

      And that Russia has to help pay to rebuild Ukraine.

      And that they are training 20,000 Ukrainian soldiers.

      Good for them.

    315. Phil says:

      312

      I was watching the same thing you were. You are right. They are inept. Completely and totally. Pathetic.

    316. jason says:

      I guess this goes for good foreign policy these days.”

      I think Pitchaboy thinks “good foreign policy” is to allow Putin to invade any country he wants to recreate the Soviet Union.

    317. JeffP says:

      315 yes for sure….Biden’s foreign policy and team are absolute f ups. Biden is compromised with both China and Ukraine. The Nord Stream destruction was an act of war. Then he blames Russia. Payback could be a real bit*h someday. Personally I don’t want a world war and definitely do not want my son fighting in one that could have been avoided. But I am a Putin stooge.

    318. Bitterlaw says:

      I love how the report of a contributor to Democracy Now! is accepted without question.

    319. Tgca says:

      321

      The British Parliament is spineless! Like most of Europe and American politicians, it’s just words for the cameras.

      Russia will not be seriously charged with and prosecuted for war crimes any more than the US would have been for invading Iraq. It’s too big of a country with international influence and risk.

      It’s all talk! Great Britain cowered when they actually had the chance to take a stand last March. Besides, 50% of the world supports Russia – many countries in Asia, Africa, South America – whether they agree with the invasion or not, hence, why countries representing more than half the world’s population abstained or voted against penalizing Russia at the UN.

      If Russia thought it was serious, than we would have WW3 and Great Britain would be at great risk of nuclear attack because Russia would not sit by and let the west try to take it out and remove their gubbermint.

      It’s all theater and fake rage like Nancy frowning and ripping up Trump’s SOTU speech. All for the cameras.

    320. Tgca says:

      If the US had a hand in the destruction of the Nord Stream 2, and that’s a VERY BIG IF, it opens up American assets for attack and rightfully so and would put a nail in the coffin on American trust around the world after Iraq lies.

      This kind of unprovoked attack should not be ignored. We would not ignore it, and rightfully so. I just hope it doesn’t result in innocent Americans dying because some covert ops were illegally authorized by a few war mongers in our gubbermint.

      I would not be surprised if this administration were involved in such a nefarious plot either. The US has had its share of covert ops instigating mayhem against other countries in the past.

      I would not trust anything our CIA or other national security apparatus said on such matters. They just have no credibility, as similar agencies in most countries have no credibility. They’re professional liars and manipulators. That’s part of their job.

    321. NYCmike says:

      “I love how the report of a contributor to Democracy Now! is accepted without question.”

      -So you put more trust in Biden and the CIA who helped get him elected?

      I don’t trust either one, but a report where the downside to it being false is more than the upside of it being true shows me that the Hersh guy is making the right enemies and speaking Truth to Power, instead of being the government mouthpiece like most of the media.

    322. Bitterlaw says:

      I did not say I trusted Biden and the CIA, either. “Truth to Power?” Zzzzzzzzz. How is Hersh doing that if you don’t even know if his report is true?

      Hersh is a far left reporter who contributed regularly to the far left and anti-American Democracy Now! Pretty strange of you to embrace him.

    323. Cash Cow TM says:

      “3.5 tons of cocaine worth over $300 million discovered floating in the Pacific Ocean, New Zealand authorities say
      USA TODAY
      ORLANDO MAYORQUIN, USA TODAY
      February 9, 2023, 12:53 PM”

      **************************************

      Iam SURE the reason for this–as in all things today–is either systemic or institutional
      RACISM or GLOBAL WARMING.

      ######################################
      But I refuse to renounce my bovine privilege.

    324. Cash Cow TM says:

      BREAKING
      ****************************************
      HALLELUIA!

      After 10 years of effort by Walt since the death of his friend Walt can FINALLY take the last steps to close the estate of his friend.

      The only thing that needed to be done was for the IRS to send a refund for $286 and change to the estate.

      THE CHECK from IRS CAME YESTERDAY FOR $392 AND CHANGE.

      There was no letter of explanation in the envelope–just the check.

      No letter of apology for the IRS taking so long and giving Walt the runaround for all these years
      –and no doubt taking years off Walt’s life.

      Delays were due to IRS saying they needed the same forms again and again and again that Walt dutifully submitted and resubmitted.

      THEN the frickin’ COVID hit and communication with IRS by phone or letter was nearly nonexistent for several years.

      Cow assumes the higher amount is due to the IRS adding on interest for the last 10 years.

      There were 9 next of kin (nieces, nephews, etc.) of Walt’s friend (who died without a will). One of those was his only surviving, elderly sibling, but sadly the sister passed away a year or two ago in Michigan.

      So, of the @ $3,000 value of the estate, I am now unsure how the deceased sister’s share will be divided.

      New wrinkle…
      _____________________________

      BUT Walt is EXCITED!
      _______________________

      And Walt has promised to redouble years of ongoing efforts to get the State of WV Dept. of Revenue to refund the money they have owed Walt’s son to the tune of about $2,800 in back State income taxes/interest/penalties they wrongly took from him–and Walt has documents proving they State of WV has previously acknowledges this!

    325. Tina says:

      Now Biden’s Beotch is attacking Biden?

    326. Tina says:

      Yet, still the Rs helped ro increase the budget of this sad and corrupt and incompetent agency.

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/ex-fbi-agents-detail-politicization-of-agency-ahead-of-bombshell-gop-hearing

    327. jason says:

      No letter of apology for the IRS taking so long and giving Walt the runaround for all these years
      –and no doubt taking years off Walt’s life.”

      Years? I thought Walt measured life in Eras.

    328. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      February 9, 2023 at 3:21 pm

      I love how the report of a contributor to Democracy Now! is accepted without question.”

      This Hersh guy is a far leftist with a reputation for BS.

      But hey, JeffP loves a KGB thug like Putin so its not that surprising.

      It just shows how intellectually dishonest the Putin stooges are. Anything for the cause!

    329. Tina says:

      Mulehead, wrong Wray, and comedy are the 3 worst fib directors ever.

      Chad Pergram

      @ChadPergram
      ·
      1h
      Rep Gaetz (R-FL): We come not to trash the FBI, but to rescue the FBI from political capture. It seems..that political capture was really enhanced when Robert Mueller took a lot of the authority and power away from the field offices all over our country and centralized that power

    330. jason says:

      And here is the deal. Even if Biden personally pushed the button that destroyed the pipeline there is still no justification for Putin invading Ukraine.

    331. jason says:

      Rep Gaetz (R-FL): We come not to trash the FBI, but to rescue the FBI from political capture.”

      Not a fan of Gaetz but that is the correct approach.

      THe FBI has to be de-politicized, not destroyed or defunded.

    332. NYCmike says:

      “THe FBI has to be de-politicized, not destroyed or defunded.”

      -Exactly.

      Glad you have finally come around from reflexively defending them at all turns.

    333. NYCmike says:

      “How is Hersh doing that if you don’t even know if his report is true?”

      -You aren’t seriously asking this question, are you?

      All those asshat reporters who made up cr*p about Trump were protected by Big Media, Big Tech and the administrative state.

      In this case, Hersh is reporting a story that all of those folks would bury.

      That is the definition of speaking Truth to Power.

      Like I said – there is much more downside if the report is wrong than there is upside if it is correct.

    334. NYCmike says:

      If he is wrong, he loses credibility.

      If he is right, he is vilified by the Biden Administration, the CIA, Big Tech, Big Media etc etc.

      I hope he is wrong, as that makes the United States look really bad.

    335. Tgca says:

      338

      True!

      But it is justification for Russia to attack US assets, and they’d be in the right to do so. I think most of the world would agree.

      The US was against Nord Steam 2 sometime now going back years so it makes you wonder whether the US is using Ukraine as an excuse.

    336. NYCmike says:

      Clarification:

      I hope he is wrong, as *the action of harming that pipeline* makes the United States look really bad.

    337. jason says:

      I am skeptical about the pipeline story. Possible but not probable.

      I don’t see Norway conspiring with the US to do this, and frankly I don’t see Biden as having the balls.

      If it can be used against Biden some way, fine with me.

      But as an excuse to deny aid to Ukraine and give Putin a blank check to recreate the Soviet Union, no.

    338. NYCmike says:

      “But as an excuse to deny aid to Ukraine and give Putin a blank check to recreate the Soviet Union, no.”

      -Where did anyone do this?

      Maybe I missed it, please point out where you saw this.

    339. jason says:

      Glad you have finally come around from reflexively defending them at all turns.”

      I never defended the politization of the FBI, in fact nobody has been more critical of that here than I have.

      But yes, I made sure I classified as an idiotic moron anyone who thought we don’t need the crime prevention and other functions of the FBI and talked about “defunding” and “dismantling” the FBI.

      GFY

    340. jason says:

      Maybe I missed it, please point out where you saw this.”

      Yeah, you missed it, that has been pretty much JeffP’s entire point.

      How this “revelation” would impact Germany’s support for Ukraine.

      And how this “act of war” will risk “nuclear attack on the East Coast” so we better be careful about angering Putin.

      I know you are not too bright, but come’on man.

    341. Tgca says:

      345

      You assume Biden was in charge of the decision-making.

      That’s debatable.

      I could care less about Biden. I worry more about retaliation impacting Americans.

      Intentionally blowing up Nord Stream 2 is an act of war, and Russia has a right to act in kind.

      America would do the same.

    342. jason says:

      But it is justification for Russia to attack US assets”

      Zzzzzz….. when is that going to happen?

    343. Tgca says:

      348

      Nuclear attack on the east coast?

      We talking all east coast or just northeast?

    344. jason says:

      Putin is not going to “attack any US assets” over the pipeline, you read it first here.

      It’s funny how the same people who assured us that “Putin is weak”, “Putin is losing in Ukraine (he isn’t), and “Putin is no threat to any country” are suddenly “very concerned” he is going to attack the US?

      If brains were dynamite, the Putin Stooges here wouldn’t have enough to blow their noses.

    345. jason says:

      Tgca says:
      February 9, 2023 at 5:30 pm

      348

      Nuclear attack on the east coast?

      We talking all east coast or just northeast?”

      You will have to ask your Putin lapdog friend JeffP.

      Here is what he said, he wasn’t too specific.

      “If you live on the east coast you might want figure out a nuke bomb shelter and buy some Iodine pills. I should be safe where I live.”

    346. Tgca says:

      350

      It could happen now or later. It would probably be surreptitiously anyways.

      My point is it’s justifiable if true. No country has a right to attack another country’s infrastructure without expecting retaliation.

      …if it turned out to be true, and Biden authorized it, he should be impeached. No logistical reason for the US to do this. We are not at war with Russia.

    347. jason says:

      I should be safe where I live.”

      Heh, JeffP thinks he will be “safe” if there is a nuclear holocaust?

      I doubt it.

    348. Tina says:

      Does milley or the department of defense have anything to say.

      Or another $50 billion to the grifter?

      Election Wizard ????????

      @ElectionWiz
      ·
      3h
      TIME: Chinese spy balloon was likely capable of listening in on Americans’ communications and pinpointing the location of those conversing on the ground, according to the U.S. State Department.

    349. jason says:

      if it turned out to be true, and Biden authorized it, he should be impeached.”

      Fine with me.

      But I doubt it happened.

      And if it did, the Dems would never impeach him.

    350. jason says:

      Or another $50 billion to the grifter?”

      Is it to the “grifter” or is it for Ukraine to fight off the Russians.

      A friend is asking.

    351. Tgca says:

      353

      I would be horrified of an NOOKYOOLER attack on the southeastern US.

      By the way, life-threatening radiation exposure can impact those within a 200 mile radius depending on size of the bomb, topography, and weather patterns.

      But there are upsides, if you survive the blast in York County, your pigs could grow to be 2 to 3 times bigger.

    352. jason says:

      tentionally blowing up Nord Stream 2 ”

      Btw, does this pipeline actually belong to Russia?

      I think its owned by a consortium and only partially financed by Gazprom.

      “For Nord Stream 2, the loan from Uniper, Wintershall Dea, OMV, Engie, and Royal Dutch Shell covers 50 percent of the projected costs of €9.5 billion. The rest is being financed by Gazprom.”

      As such, the Russians could be entitled to compensation for any losses, but it is hardly an “act of war”.

    353. jason says:

      But there are upsides, if you survive the blast in York County, your pigs could grow to be 2 to 3 times bigger.”

      Wow, just think of the bacon on those suckers.

      But alas, I only have llamas. And I don’t want a llama 3 times the size of Lupita.

    354. Tgca says:

      All this Nord Stream 2 talk reminds me of the 60s movie Fail Safe where the US accidentally takes out Moscow due to technology malfunction and to avoid a global nuclear war, the U.S. self-sacrifices NYC to prove to the USSR it really was not intentional.

      Good movie but horrible scenario. Still could happen. Who knows.

    355. Tgca says:

      360

      It sources Russian gas and therefore their revenue.

      It would be like destroying American pipelines or refineries to harm its economy.

      Definitely an act of war.

    356. jason says:

      Not really. It’s not the same thing at all.

      The pipeline is not Russian per se, and wasn’t destroyed in Russia. In fact, only a tiny part was actually destroyed.

      If blame can be assigned, the Russians can ask for compensation for any losses incurred. But act of war? A real stretch.

    357. jason says:

      Let’s say a shipment of PA scrapple was on its way to China on a third party vessel. Country A sinks the ship and all the scrapple is lost.

      Act of war? Not really. But the US can ask for compensation for the delicious scrapple being eaten by the denizens of the deep.

    358. Tgca says:

      365

      Let’s say the invaluable scrapple is on a shipment on a private US cargo plane. Russia shoots down the plane carrying US citizens, and more importantly invaluable scrapple.

      An act of war or not?

    359. jason says:

      No Russian citizens were killed in the pipeline explosion.

      GFY.

    360. jason says:

      Ukrainian pilots training to fly Typhoon jets in the UK.

      JeffP to call it an “escalation” in 3, 2, 1…

      https://twitter.com/UkraineNewsLive/status/1623668967343620096/photo/1

    361. jason says:

      Destroying scrapple in any situation is an act of war, I have to admit it.

    362. jason says:

      An act of war or not?”

      Russia actually shot down a commercial jet full of US citizens without warning including a congressman and nothing happened.

    363. NYCmike says:

      https://www.moonshinemagnolias.com/articles/porches

      -Bitterlaw and Wes need to meet on one!

    364. JeffP says:

      I guess ignorance is bliss here.

      Old Hersh is about as credible as an investigative reporter can be. If you would take the time to research it. Like about over 50 years worth of history. It’s true and thanks to Elon Musk uncensored on Twitter and trending throughout the world. Of course Tucker (the only one that has ba))s) on Faux is as well.

    365. Bitterlaw says:

      Seymour Hersh is 85. He fears nothing. He would probably love his story, true or not, to push Biden out the door in order to get a younger Dem elected in 2024.

    366. Bitterlaw says:

      Democracy Now! is a far left site. Just wear a fine investigative reporter should hang out, right?

    367. Bitterlaw says:

      where

    368. JeffP says:

      374 I know you are much smarter than that BL.

      There are a ton of classic liberals who aren’t compromising to the Woke Commie Dems. I guess he’s another one.

      He posted it on Substack for a reason.

    369. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.democracynow.org/

      This is JeffP’s definition of classic liberalism.

    370. Bitterlaw says:

      https://substack.com/

      Because fine classical liberal investigative journalists need subscribers to generate income for their articles.

    371. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      I’m unclear what your point about Substack is.

      I know at least one liberal writer on there that got fired by the NY Times because they dared to question the Woke Ideology of their 20-something underlings, Bari Weiss.

      She writes some things that I agree with, and then other st-ff that I disagree with, but I do find her to be honest.

    372. JeffP says:

      Substack = is being censored or cancelled by MSM.

      Rumble = is being censored or shutdown by YouTube.

    373. JeffP says:

      380 your ridiculous now BL. That’s not a classic liberal website.

    374. JeffP says:

      Well it’s begun. My heart goes out to the innocent Ukrainians caught in the middle of this quagmire. I hope those that survive will be able to rebuild their lives soon. It’s heartbreaking.

      OSINTdefender@sentdefender

      There are some reports tonight that a Major Russian Offensive may now be underway in Eastern Ukraine with Artillery and Missile Strikes that are consistent with Shaping Operations currently taking place in the Kharkiv, Luhansk, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia Regions. However I would still recommend waiting for Confirmation from Ukrainian and Western Officials that the Offensive has indeed begun.

      According to Russian Sources, there are at least 10 Tu-95 Strategic Bombers now noted to be Airborne. If true this is the most Russian Strategic Bombers that I have heard being Airborne at one time during the Invasion.

    375. jason says:

      Hey JeffP, you are fine with the slaughter of Ukrainians, so take you fake “my heart goes out” and GFY. You really are a despicable POS.

      “Middle of quagmire” my ass. The only party responsible for any “quagmire” are your Russian friends who invaded Ukraine.

      The Ukrainians cannot rebuild their lives while being bombed, shelled, and murdered, can they?

    376. jason says:

      “If true this is the most Russian Strategic Bombers that I have heard being Airborne at one time ”

      But of course this is not an “escalation”.

      In JeffP’s sick mind, the only “escalation” is Ukraine trying to defend itself.

    377. JeffP says:

      Jason for the hundredth time I am not sympathetic to what Russia is doing to the Ukrainian people in invading Russia. GFY.

    378. jason says:

      You are a pathological liar. Your pretend you have sympathy for Ukrainians but you want to ensure they are defenseless and easier to slaughter.

      And nobody invaded Russia, moron. The Russians are the invaders.

    379. jason says:

      Another “escalation”

      UK Prime Minister

      “That’s why we have announced today that we will be training Ukrainian air force on Nato-standard platforms because the first step in being able to provide advanced aircrafts is to have soldiers or aviators who are capable of using them.

    380. jason says:

      here are some reports tonight that a Major Russian Offensive may now be underway in Eastern Ukraine with Artillery and Missile Strikes that are consistent with Shaping Operations currently taking place in the Kharkiv, Luhansk, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia Regions.”

      JeffP hasn’t been this excited since Putin bombed a crowded railway station and killed 50+ people.

    381. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      2024 National Republican Primary:

      DeSantis 33%
      Trump 33%
      Pence 2%
      Haley 1%
      Cruz 1%
      Paul 1%
      Pompeo 1%

      Head-2-Head:
      DeSantis 53% (+13)
      Trump 40%

      DeSantis 67% (+48)
      Cruz 19%

      Trump 60% (+29)
      Cruz 31%

      @MonmouthPoll
      566 RV, 1/26-2/2
      https://monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_US_020923/

    382. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      2024 National Republican Primary:

      Trump 38%
      DeSantis 35%
      Haley 11%

      DeSantis 45%
      Trump 41%

      @YouGovAmerica/
      @YahooNews
      2/2-6
      https://news.yahoo.com/poll-desantis-leads-trump-for-2024-gop-nod–but-not-if-haley-and-others-split-the-vote-175359642.html

    383. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      52. “jason says:
      February 6, 2023 at 6:45 pm
      Good news. Despite all the efforts of the Putin Brigades, Americans still support Ukraine.

      And 65% support Ukraine reclaiming its territory “even if it means a prolonged conflict”

      What is impressive is the polling has not changed in six months:

      In Aug 2022 it was 66% to 31% in supporting Ukraine even if it means prolonged conflict; in Jan 2023 it was 65% to 31% in support.

      Even Republicans were in support even if it means a prolonged conflict by a 53% to 41% margin.

      Unfortunately, it appears Trump, by opposing the sale of tanks to the Ukraine, and saying he can in 24 hours make a deal with Putin to end the war, is taking a position that is making it difficult for a lot of Republicans, including myself, to support him in 2024.

    384. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      From Politico:

      “Those close to Trump’s campaign operation say he plans to try and paint himself as an anti-war dove amongst the hawks. They believe doing so will resonate with GOP voters who are divided on, but growing wary of, continued support for Ukraine in its war with Russia.

      “Trump is the peace president and he’s the first president in two generations to not start a war, whereas if you look at DeSantis’ congressional record, he’s voted for more engagement and more military engagement overseas,” said a person close to the Trump campaign, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions.”

    385. Bitterlaw says:

      Although it will probably not be an issue in 2024 because Ukraine will either prevail or surrender by then, if Trump runs on a platform of appeasement of Putin by not supporting Ukraine, he probably loses my vote in the primary. If he gets the nomination, he gets my vote in the GE.

    386. jason says:

      Well, it’s settled.

      JeffP hardest hit.

      President Biden believes Russian President Vladimir Putin has “already lost Ukraine,” he told PBS NewsHour in a Wednesday interview.

    387. jason says:

      I wonder if the “major offensive” JeffP is so excited about is an “escalation”.

      Oh wait, only defensive actions by Ukraine are “escalations”…. sorry, forgot.

    388. jason says:

      I don’t really believe anything Politico says. That being said Trump is an opportunist and he figures if he can corner the “anti-war” isolationist vote its a good start for his campaign while bad policy for America. He assumes Rs that support Ukraine will be stuck voting for him anyway in the GE.

      However, I am confident that had Trump been President, Putin would never have invaded Ukraine and had he been President he would not have surrendered Ukraine either. During the months the Russians took building up forces on the Ukrainian border and Biden did nothing, I think Trump would have taken a much more aggressive stance and drawn a line Putin would not have crossed. Trump is a protectionist and isolationist at heart, but I doubt he would agree to be upstaged by Putin.

      And Trump did not really shy away from military action. He claimed he won the war against ISIS with concerted military action in Iraq and Syria. He continued to kill terrorists and even the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

      “We destroyed the ISIS [Islamic State in Iraq and Syria] caliphate….You know when President Trump came into office, ISIS had captured an area of the Middle East, the size of Pennsylvania. President Trump unleashed the American military, and our armed forces destroyed the ISIS Caliphate and took down their leader al Baghdadi without one American casualty.”

    389. jason says:

      The Wagner group of Kremlin affiliated mercenaries announced today that it won’t be recruiting anymore Russian prisoners. The group’s leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, didn’t explain why.

      “One of the lawyers who spoke to Agentstvo said the decline of volunteers from among the prison population was in part due to information about Wagner’s high casualties becoming known.

      The experiences of prisoners who completed their six-month Wagner contracts may have deterred others from joining up. Prigozhin was seen last month with some of the demobilized fighters, many of whom had clearly been wounded.

      It’s quite possible that some who have now returned home have relayed accounts of the appalling casualties suffered among Wagner ranks – as wave after wave of fighters were sent into the path of Ukrainian artillery and tank fire.

      The two Wagner prisoners interviewed this week by CNN spoke of huge losses as they were sent to storm Ukrainian positions, with fighters refusing to go forward instantly executed by commanders, they said.

      One of the lawyers who spoke to Agentstvo said the decline of volunteers from among the prison population was in part due to information about Wagner’s high casualties becoming known.”

      Evidently there were 40000 of these guys in the field in Ukraine.

      I think the problem is that convicts looking for a way out of jail don’t make the best soldiers. There motivation is not the same and they probably resist authority and discipline, keys to a military role.

    390. Jeffpee says:

      VILNIUS (Reuters) -A group of 35 countries including the United States, Germany, France, Britain and Japan have unanimously agreed to demand that Russian and Belarusian athletes are banned from the 2024 Olympics, the Lithuanian sports minister said on Friday

      With war raging in Ukraine, the Baltic States, Nordic countries and Poland had called on international sports bodies to ban Russian and Belarusian athletes from competing in the Olympics.”

      This is an outrageous escalation. I am worried that Putin might attack the Olympics with nukes as retaliation.

      I suggest the Russians be given gold medals at all events to avoid angering Putin.

    391. jason says:

      Streiff has a lot of good reasons on why he thinks the Hersh pipeline story is utter BS, but agrees it should be investigated anyway. I have no objection.

      These are the reasons that I don’t believe Hersh’s account.

      “The decision to cut the congressional Gang of Eight out of this operation based on some lackwit understanding of the law doesn’t pass the smell test. If they did cut out Congress, they would’ve come up with a reason that didn’t draw guffaws from the members of a Joint Investigative Committee when it inevitably convenes.

      The CIA’s role in operational planning does not match how the services conduct special operations, even in concert with the CIA.

      The use of deep water divers from the US Navy Diving and Salvage Training Center strikes me as unlikely it is a training installation. The depth of the water in the Baltic doesn’t require specialized service craft. And the real experts in underwater operations are Navy SEALs. So going outside that community seems counterintuitive.

      The depth of the pipelines, less than 300 feet, didn’t require specialized diving skills as much as specialized demolition skills.

      Using a NATO training exercise to mask the operation sounds cool until you realize that this required the explosives to be left armed and in place for 90 days. Using a sonar buoy to set off the explosions seems to add another level of complication to an already complicated operation.

      The explosions going off 15 hours and 50 miles apart calls into question the sonar buoy detonation story.

      From a plausibility standpoint, I can’t believe that Joe Biden or anyone in his inner circle came up with this idea.

      The idea that we’d surreptitiously blow up two pipelines in the economic zone of two allies when the pipelines were already shut down makes no sense. Nothing was to be gained from blowing up the pipelines, and the political fallout of the operation being exposed would be immense.

      The Norwegians cooperating in such an operation makes no sense. In fact, I’m not sure what the Norwegians even brought to the table.

      Too many people from too many agencies were involved for this to be an accurate portrayal of events. You can’t have that many people involved not to have leaks before or after the event.

      I stick by my original assessment that this was a Russian operation. Unlike the theory of planting explosives three months before the attack, Russian Navy diving support ships were tracked in the area of both explosions days before the event. You can read my thoughts at the time at Putin’s PR Machine Throws up Smoke as the Nord Stream Pipeline Explosion Investigation Begins.

      Now that this story is in play, the House and Senate owe it to themselves and the country to investigate this story. It isn’t like they haven’t investigated patent dumbf***ery in the past; they actually looked into the claim that vice presidential candidate George H. W. Bush flew to Paris in an SR-71 to negotiate a release of the embassy hostages held by Iran and guarantee Ronald Reagan’s victory in 1980.

      Senator Mike Lee is correct. If Hersh has any part of this story right, the nation has a real problem with rogue actors in the CIA and Department of Defense. But, as the old saying goes, it is the seriousness of the allegation, not the quality of the evidence, that demands a full-blown investigation.”

    392. jason says:

      These are the reasons that I don’t believe Hersh’s account.

      That should have been in quotes.

    393. Jeffpee says:

      The war will never end if the Ukrainians keep escalating it by shooting down Russian missiles.

      “KYIV (Reuters) – Russia unleashed a new wave of missile strikes on energy infrastructure across Ukraine on Friday, causing emergency power outages for millions of people and prompting new calls by Kyiv for Western arms.

      Ukraine’s air force said Russia had fired 71 cruise missiles, of which 61 were shot down, and explosions were reported by local officials around the country including in the capital Kyiv.

      At least 17 missiles hit the southeastern city of Zaporizhzhia in an hour in the heaviest attack since Russia invaded Ukraine in February last year, local officials said.

      Energy Minister German Galushchenko said thermal and hydro power generation facilities and high-voltage infrastructure had been hit in six regions, forcing emergency electricity shutdowns across most of the country.

      “The most difficult situation is in Zaporizhzhia, Kharkiv and Khmelnytskyi regions,” he said, referring to regions in the southeast, northeast and west of Ukraine.

      “Thanks to the successful work of the air defense forces and early technical measures, it was possible to preserve the integrity of the energy system of Ukraine. Energy workers are working non-stop to restore energy supply.”

    394. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      401. I actually believe Russian athletes should be allowed to participate in the Olympics. I believe it is unfair to punish them for Putin’s actions.

    395. jason says:

      I don’t agree. It is unfair but the blame lies with Russia. Hopefully this would promote even more dissension within Russia.

    396. jason says:

      I am sorry this is happening to JeffP. But maybe some of the missile strikes going on today will hit their targets so he won’t be depressed.

      “Russia committed about 3,000 battle tanks to its invasion of Ukraine — and nearly a year later, it has lost about half of them, Dutch open-source intelligence group Oryx said Thursday. Oryx says it has visually verified 1,012 Russian tanks destroyed in Ukraine, another 544 captured by Ukrainian forces, 79 damaged, and 65 abandoned. Counting unconfirmed losses, Russia’s tank losses could be closer to 2,000, Oryx contributor Jakub Janovsky told CNN. Ukraine, meanwhile, has lost 459 tanks, fewer than it has captured from Russia.

      Russia started the war with more than 12,000 tanks to Ukraine’s 2,000, by The Wall Street Journal’s count. Janovsky estimates that Russia has about 4,000 tanks in reserve, though “many were not properly stored and might be hard to reactivate quickly.”

      Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Russian Security Council, toured a tank manufacturing plant in Omsk province on Thursday, saying Russia needs to increase production in response to the modern battle tanks the West is sending Ukraine, the Institute for the Study of War think tank reports. The Kremlin’s efforts to gradually ramp up Russia’s military-industrial complex is “incompatible with the scale of the war that the Russian military is fighting in Ukraine and the scale of Russian military equipment losses.”

      Ukraine may not be getting as many advanced Western battle tanks as anticipated, the Journal reports. Germany has committed to sending Ukraine 14 Leopard 2 tanks as soon as March and will refurbish more than 150 Leopard 1 tanks for transfer, but only Poland has joined it in pledging to send a substantial number of modern tanks. Britain says its 14 Challenger 2 tanks should arrive in Ukraine by the end of March, but the 31 pledged U.S. Abrams tanks won’t arrive for months.

      Other Western countries don’t appear to have many operational Leopard 2s to spare, and that “should be taken as an alarm signal in Europe,” former German defense official Nico Lange tells the Journal.

      Still, Russia’s armor losses are large and growing. Including infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carries, and other non-tank vehicles, Russia has lost nearly 9,000 military vehicles, Oryx says, while Ukraine has lost 2,934. In Russia’s attack on the southern town of Vuhledar, Britain’s Defense Ministry said early Friday, inexperienced “Russian troops likely fled and abandoned at least 30 mostly intact armored vehicles in a single incident after a failed assault.”

    397. jason says:

      Even the 150 “old” Leopards are still a significant asset especially if used in defensive positions against advancing infantry and other tanks.

      The fact Ukraine has only lost 460 tanks so far means they are using their armor effectively and shielding it from air power successfully.

      The difference is that the Russians can afford to lose men and equipment more than Ukraine. And because there is no free press in Russia, these losses are not divulged and public sentiment is not affected.

    398. Tgca says:

      408

      Agreed.

      But there is no free press in Ukraine others.

    399. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      BREAKING:

      ” A ‘high-altitude object’ has been downed over Alaska, White House says”

      I hope Santa Claus and ET are OK!

    400. Tina says:

      Biden: “Every time I hear ‘the president of the United States,’ I look around and say ‘Where the hell is he?'”

      https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1624087936441483264

    401. jason says:

      But there is no free press in Ukraine others.”

      Zzzzz…

      There is much more freedom of the press in Ukraine than in Russia.

      And nobody is jailed for 15 years in Ukraine for calling it a “war”.

      Ukraine is ranked 96th out of 180 countries in freedom of the press, making it about average, while Russia is 155th out of 180, meaning only about 14% of countries have less freedom of the press.

      Here is a fair assessment of Ukraine’s policies regarding media. It is not ideal, for sure, but most of it is in line with EU policies (which are not that great either).

      But is far less draconian than anything that goes on it Russia.

      https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-s-media-weigh-powers-of-new-law-/6927353.html

    402. jason says:

      Biden: “Every time I hear ‘the president of the United States,’ I look around and say ‘Where the hell is he?’””

      Give him a break, he is being honest. He really doesn’t know.

    403. Cash Cow TM says:

      Hey hey Biden
      What do you say
      How many objects
      you shoot down today!

    404. Tina says:

      That’s it. See the my times reported that Biden had classified docs due to hasty packing while vp. All because of muh trump.

      Nothing to do with making a buck in Ukraine or China with his addicted son.

    405. Bitterlaw says:

      Russia does not have a free press. Ukraine has tens of thousands of dead civilians and soldiers because of Russia.

      Both can be true.

    406. Paul says:

      Small weird gray cylinder at 40,000 feet and a large balloon at 60,000 feet likely do have different threat potential. Any thoughts on what today’s cylinder UFO could have been?

    407. jason says:

      I think it was an alien spaceship. And they have nukes.

    408. jason says:

      Much too late for me, the woke NFL is dead to me, even if they abandoned wokeness now the magic is gone. I wouldn’t be able to watch a game without wondering when the next self entitled millionaire was going to lecture me on race relations or what woke message was in the end zone or what woke ad was coming up.

      “According to a poll conducted by The Trafalgar Group asked likely voters: “Do you believe that sporting events, like the Super Bowl, should include political or cultural statements as part of the game and coverage, or just focus on the game itself?”

      An overwhelming majority of 84.4 percent answered that sporting events should “just focus on the game.”

      Only 10 percent said the political and cultural statements should be included, with 5.6 saying they were “not sure.”

      It gets better.

      When broken down by political affiliation, the Trafalgar Group found that even Democrats have had it with the injection of politics into sports. A massive 76.7 percent of likely Democrat voters said the NFL should simply focus on the game with only 15.6 percent of Democrats saying messages should be included.

      For Republicans and Independents, the “Just focus on the game” option was the majority winner at 93.4 and 82.2 percent respectively.

      This is a very interesting result, especially given the fact that the poll skewed more Democrat and female.

      The NFL’s relationship with political messaging has cost the league broadcasts viewership in the past. The 2017/2018 season saw a whopping 33 percent of its audience leave the fandom over the kneeling controversy, where NFL players took a knee during the national anthem to protest the United States and Trump.

      After the NFL largely abandoned social justice messaging viewership bounced back with the 2021 Super Bowl attracting over 112 million viewers.

      Some fans have still yet to return over the NFL allowing the insult to the country and the troops to happen in the first place. Some fields still have references to social justice messaging, but most have resorted to vague messages of positivity and togetherness.

      The NFL would be wise to listen to the people and remove any modern social messaging altogether”

    409. Paul says:

      Probably Weasley’s old clunker.

    410. Paul says:

      From my reading, the Hersch article is his notion of what might have happened with a couple quotes from an unnamed source. Am I reading it correctly?

    411. Tina says:

      The objects were probably launched by the degerates at the cia or the fib. Got to get the attention off dear leader Biden and the disastrous sotu and the ccp spy matter.

    412. NYCmike says:

      #424 – if there was ever a time I could have been arrested, it was breaking up a fight between 4 girls, 3 beating up 1. Thankfully I had my dog with me, as she was literally “ready to go” if anyone came from behind me. Gosh, what a great dog ol’ Ruby was!

      The 3 girls were downright vicious, and 1 of them actually threatened me by saying “You touch me and I’ll sue!”. I guess my response of “I’ll give you one phone call to your lawyer before I start your beating.” wasn’t what she thought I would say, and she backed off with her accomplices.

      Animals.

    413. NYCmike says:

      And yes, terrible story. Heard about it on the news earlier today. Sickening.

    414. jason says:

      I think the problem with the Hersch story is the Norwegian angle. The story doesn’t work without the Norwegians but I just don’t see the Norwegians engaging in this type of operation. The fact it is also not drawing any scrutiny in Norway tells me the Norwegians think it is BS too.

    415. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – That is why they invented the term “meanagers.” The worst story I ever heard was about a teenaged girl who killed herself. The girls who teased and bullied her came to her wake and were laughing and making fun of her in her casket. I don’t know how her parents did not snap and cause them harm. I hope those girls have miserable lives.

    416. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      I can’t imagine knowing people that would act in such a way. I would look to meet their parents to see if they knew what they had raised.

    417. JeffP says:

      DeSantis is the only one that could defeat Trump. Everyone in the GOP knows this. Trumps attacks on him have not gone well and just highlights his worst attributes which hurts him. If it’s a binary choice early enough DeSantis will win the nomination I am pretty confident of that now. However, I agree with Phil that Trump is going to be indicted for something eventually and that will be a factor.

    418. JeffP says:

      Hersh is a credible journalist and his track record proves it. He has exposed abuses of power in the past that were initially denied and were proven true. The hot Norway PM is another WEF approved leader and would definitely be involved as their goal is regime change. Which is ridiculous with Russian Nationalist Medvedev probably the next in line. China, Russia, India, NK, etc… are establishing their own banking network for nefarious reasons. Biden is a f up and admitted this was going to happen months before. Nuland as well. I could go on about the natural gas deals that were signed days after the line was destroyed with the UK. You have to be naive to deny US involvement.

    419. JeffP says:

      The violence with teenagers and pre teens taking place today is staggering. I met with a chaplain at a juvenile detention facility this past week. He has served there for almost 20 years. They would have one or two gun related murders per year a few years ago. He said it’s one or two per week now and the local media is not reporting it. He also described a catch and release program for all other crimes that is totally corrupt and ineffective. He is contemplating retirement now and moving out of the Woke Commie Dem city.

    420. JeffP says:

      Removing the corrupt Soros Tampa DA was one of DeSantis finer moments. He had the legal opportunity took advantage of it and also won in court.

    421. JeffP says:

      WEF ambassador and Canadian PM is pushing hard for digital ID. The ramifications are life changing. I hope this is soundly rejected and he is soundly defeated in the next election.

    422. JeffP says:

      Understanding your enemies worldview and belief system is crucial in defeating them.

      I had hoped that the retreat in the Donbas area was the beginning of the end of Russia aggression in Ukraine…assuming the history and what I understood at that point of Putins commitment to possess Ukraine at almost any cost knowing the risk of WW 3.

      Last night my wife asked me if I knew that Putin was part of the Romanov bloodline. I was like your kidding me right. A simple google search addressed that. His obsession with Russia Nationalism and the apostate Russian Orthodox Church made a lot more sense…not to mention his commitment to destroy any western influence in Ukraine regardless of the loss of life and destruction. WAR.

      https://www.thedailybeast.com/putin-isnt-just-insane-he-thinks-hes-gods-man-on-earth

    423. jason says:

      His obsession with Russia Nationalism and the apostate Russian Orthodox Church made a lot more sense”

      Zzzzzz….JeffP shilling for Putin again. He is entitled to recreate a Greater Russia because he is a “descendant” of the the Romanovs?

      LOL

      I guess any leader of France who descends from Napoleon has the right to start a new French empire?

      Who cares about Putin’s commitment to recreate the USSR or “why” he wants to do it. He has to be stopped. Period.

      The rest is just Russian talking points, which JeffP LOVES.

    424. jason says:

      Hersh is a credible journalist and his track record proves it. ”

      Zzzz… Hersh won a Pulitzer 50+ years ago, but the NYT won Pulitzers for their fake Russian collusion articles too.

      He is a far leftist and is actually a supporter of Syrian dictator Assad, so the idea he is pro-Putin is not that far fetched.

      In 2011 he claimed “Stanley McChrystal, the former top commander in Afghanistan, and the leadership of the US Joint Special Operations Forces were “all members of, or at least supporters of, Knights of Malta.”

      He claims the Bin Laden killing, which is actually on film, was a “cover up” for a joint US-Pakistani operation a “hoax”.

      https://www.lawfareblog.com/hershs-account-bin-laden-raid-journalistic-malpractice

      While he might have been “celebrated” early in his career, he has pretty much been discredited since.

      His article is based on one single anonymous “source” and has zero corroboration.

      Norway has one word for it: Nonsense. As I pointed out above, the idea Norway would collaborate with some covert US operation like this is pretty unlikely if not impossible.

    425. jason says:

      Here is the deal.

      Nobody should care where and why Putin gets his ideas.

      There is ZERO justification for Putin’s invasion of the Ukraine or his despotic rule in Russia.

      It didn’t matter “why” Hitler wanted to create a 1000 year Reich. It had to be defeated.

    426. Gordon Allen says:

      #432. Trump is playing the part of the desperate, mud slinging challenger, and DeSantis the part of the confident incumbent front runner above the fray conducting the people’s business, barely if at all noticing the Challenger.
      This is smart of DeSantis ( he and Casey are both smart), and Trump is acting stupidly ( par for the course politically). Trump needs smarter people around him- who he’ll listen to.
      As of today DeSantis LOVES his position, which is even better than he hoped for.

    427. jason says:

      “Trump is playing the part of the desperate, mud slinging challenger”

      Good, so you have nothing to worry about and thus can stop trashing Trump.

    428. jason says:

      Understanding your enemies worldview and belief system is crucial in defeating them”

      No. It is not.

      This is akin to the defense for murderers “oh, he grew up poor in a bad neighborhood with an abusive father, blah blah blah” that defense lawyers always bring up for justification of their actions.

      The fact is 99.9999% of people in that situation don’t kill anybody.

      There is no doubt Putin is a Russian Nationalist who wants a Greater Russia and another USSR.

      “Understanding” that won’t help defeat him. Military power will.

    429. JeffP says:

      Worldview of your enemies doesn’t matter…you don’t think that applies to the CCP too?

      Your way too simplistic. Another example.

      The hypothetical comparisons you are making in France and Germany to Russias history are not even compatible. Russia has NEVER had a democratic or republic form government EVER. They function as an autocratic top down country their whole existence.

      Biden gave the Nord Stream admission months ago. Why are you denying that?

      I don’t see the world as simply as you do Jason. Not that I am more intelligent than you by any means, I just have learned the hard way.

    430. JeffP says:

      I don’t trust Zelenskyy either because he is no different than any other autocratic corrupt leader.

    431. JeffP says:

      Worldview of you enemies doesn’t matter…Hitler wrote a book in prison of his worldview and it wasn’t taken seriously when he became Chancellor. It matter to millions of Jews.

    432. Bitterlaw says:

      I don’t trust Zelenskyy either because he is no different than any other autocratic corrupt leader.

      So how many more Ukrainians have to be killed and maimed and how much Ukrainian territory should Russia keep because you don;t trust Zelensky?

    433. JeffP says:

      447 The answer is Zero. That is who I care about the most … the PEOPLE of Ukraine and why I want a peace agreement asap and no more escalation or long term war. I also don’t want to provoke WW 3 or a nuclear situation of any degree. I am very concerned about Putins resolve and those around him related to his worldview. I am hoping the Ukraine can maintain their front line positions in hope that Russia retreats again. But the invasion is just beginning its next deadly phase (Russia is bombing power plants vs power sub stations now) and they are committed to the long term outcome. Troop numbers alone are an issue for Ukraine. So very little hope of a positive outcome for Ukraine that could happen without NATO troops on the ground and weapons in a hot war which we mean WW 3. You may not agree but it’s my perspective.

    434. Paul says:

      Zelenskyy is NOT a corrupt autocrat. You are swallowing Russian propaganda. He’s a normal leader who is facing an existential threat to his nation. He might overreach sometimes but some of that is necessary in extreme times.

    435. Paul says:

      Do you realize a peace deal at this moment would mean death for many of those people you are SO COMPASSIONATE about. It also means having children taken from their families in Ukraine and sent to the other side of Russia. And it means loss of all freedom.

      YOU HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR THESE PEOPLE!!!

    436. JeffPee says:

      what I care about most is the people of Czechoslovakia. If they lose quickly to Germany, they will not suffer as much. Same with Poland. If Poland is taken over quickly by Germany, they will be happy living in the great Third Reich.

    437. Pitchaboy says:

      Trump listens to no one. At times, he doesn’t even listen to himself.

    438. Cash Cow TM says:

      I asked Walt if he had any regrets in his life.

      He said:
      “of course! Having a life with no regrets is like having a guitar with no strings.”

      ###############################################

      “There have been numerous regrets and mistakes. Things I should have said in key conversations but neglected to say. And things I did said that I shouldn’t have.”

      “Things I did–and shouldn’t have, or didn’t do but should have done.”

      “Relationships that I ended or walked away from that I regret doing. People who deserved more love from me that I failed to give. And relationships that were begun that, regrettably, should not have been.”
      *******************************************
      Walt said he has written down all his regrets and stores them in several large trunks in the basement.

    439. Cash Cow TM says:

      I am now going through the trunks full of regrets of Walt’s…

      …found some interesting tidbits..

      Did you know Walt regretted turning down Lincoln’s invitation to go see the play at Ford’s theatre? Walf felt if he had gone, he might have been able to prevent the assassination.

      He also regretted rebuffing Cleopatra’s
      sex.ual advances…

    440. Paul says:

      I have a trunk full of grievances that I keep nearby to pull out frequently.

    441. JeffP says:

      German MP isn’t keeping quiet….

      if the Hersh report is verified this is going to be a big f n deal. Biden F Upped with this one. He let it slip months ago too probably because of his age.

      https://youtu.be/ibGWf4DkhaQ

      Translated

      The AfD (Alternative for Germany) party called a special debate of the German Bundestag Friday to discuss the explosive revelations by veteran investigative reporter Seymour Hersh bout potential CIA sabotage of the Nord Stream pipeline. AfD delegate Markus Frohnmaier said that “a red line has been crossed” if the attack came from a NATO country, and that “we need to know who was behind the attack” on Nord Stream.”

      Mrkus Frohnmaier: Madam President, Ladies and Gentlemen,
      We are facing a very serious situation.

      In September, Nord Stream was blown up.

      Now, almost five months later, a terrible suspicion has arisen.

      There are claims that Nord Stream was attacked by our own allies.

      There are charges that the United States of America and the Kingdom of Norway planned and carried out an explosive attack on Nord Stream.

      This accusation was made by a US citizen: award-winning journalist Seymour Hersh.

      In an article published Wednesday, Hersh cites a source who appears to have had direct knowledge of the planning of the operation.

      Hersh claims the United States and Norway arranged for explosives to be planted on both Nord Stream pipelines during a NATO naval maneuver in the Baltic Sea last summer, which was remotely detonated a few months later.

      The White House and the CIA deny these allegations.

      But we know how much you can trust American intel services.

      Just recall (the revelations of Edward Snowden), who revealed that Chancellor (Angela) Merkel was being bugged by the NSA.

      An explosive attack on German infrastructure would mean a red line has been crossed.

      Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty states: “The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”

      An attack on Nord Stream is an attack on Germany, and thus on the entire alliance.
      But if it were an ally that attacked our critical infrastructure, the trust that is the foundation of any alliance would be destroyed.
      Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to make one thing very clear before my words are deliberately twisted:
      I cannot rule out that it was the US and Norway that blew up Nord Stream. I also cannot rule out that Russia blew up Nord Stream.

      In fact, I can’t rule anything out.

      And why not?

      Why is it that, 137 days after Nord Stream was blown up, as a member of Parliament, I still don’t know who did it?

      Because, in these 137 days, our government has done nothing, zero, not one nanometer to find out who did!

      After almost five months, the government of the fourth largest economy in the world still does not know who attacked us, on our own doorstep.

      The kindest interpretation of this complete failure is that our government consists of incompetent fools whom no one takes seriously – not in Moscow, not in Washington, not in Oslo.

      In the worst case, it means something completely different: that this government has no interest in finding out who did it, that this government is hiding the truth, that this government is not acting in the German interest, but in the interest of other countries.

    442. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      457. So our Putin troll is a quoting a German politician from a group with ties to Putin. Anyone surprised?

      “Politicians from a far-right party in Germany who are on a visit to Russia, and plan to travel to Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine, have been accused of supporting Vladimir Putin’s war and of undertaking a “propaganda trip”.”

    443. JeffPee says:

      A bit more on AfD. So what if they are pro-Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AfD_pro-Russia_movement

    444. Bitterlaw says:

      Walt regrets not getting a patent on fire. Millions of years of lost royalties and license fees.

    445. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I don’t think a Russian lackey is going to create outrage over the Nord Stream pipeline getting blown up. So what? Whoever did it provided the world a beneficial service,and deserves an award. My guess is little Greta from Sweden blew it up.

      American LNG can provide Germany replacement gas. Hopefully the Germans will come to their senses and turn to nuclear power again, along with their plans for additional wind power.

    446. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      BREAKING:
      According to a news flash from Jack Posobiec, it appears that an F-22 has shot down another Chinese Spy Balloon over Canada with at least one more Balloon on approach to the area.
      What are the Chinese attempting to accomplish?

    447. Pitchaboy says:

      Notwithstanding the torturous justifications, the cause of a lot of conflicts these days is control over the supply of energy.

    448. JeffP says:

      461 I don’t think the German people care about your excuses. At least he has the guts to stand up for his countries best interest.

      It’s amazing how some of you support the Biden administration and their lies and corruption.

    449. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      …patent on fire…

      Good one.

      Walt shook his head in agreement.

    450. JeffP says:

      I know I don’t support Putin…but you are all in trusting Joe in foreign policy. That’s fine but get it right. Hypocrites.

    451. Pitchaboy says:

      The Vietnam War was escalated with domino theory. Ukraine war is being escalated on Hitlerian expansionist theory. A proxy war is being fought to weaken Russia as a strategic move. Meanwhile, our stockpiles are depleting. The only ones laughing are the Chinese who are getting Russian energy for cheap and our corrupt military establishment that has an excuse for a blank check. It hardly matters who is President. This country will be crushed by debt.

    452. Bitterlaw says:

      Defending Ukraine is escalation. I love it here.

    453. JeffP says:

      Glad some Republicans are calling for transparency regarding the other threat from the CCP.

    454. Tina says:

      Seems like the Ccp is more of a threat than Pooty poot.

      After all, there is a sheot load of Ccp balloons.

      Plus the China virus

      Sad that the uni party does not see this.

    455. Gordon Allen says:

      I’m glad everyone here is focused on the Country that unleashed Covid on us.
      And flies stuff into our airspace.
      Russia?

    456. JeffP says:

      Airspace over north central Montana is closed down, experts expect another aircraft to be shot down.

      What the hell is going on?

      This is what happens when you have a government that NEVER tells you the truth and is also more inept than a preschool kid with a soiled diaper. No one knows wtf is going on.

      The WH or Pentagon should be having a news conference by now. Problem is they are a bunch of liars.

    457. JeffP says:

      So are you Biden trusting supporters going to trust Joe to handle it? You seem to love his foreign policy.

      Hypocrites.

    458. JeffP says:

      470 That’s right Tina and it pisses me off. Biden is completely inept as commander and chief.

    459. Paul says:

      How would you want him to handle it differently?

    460. JeffP says:

      458 Hey SDC…Just like the crazy libs you don’t address the merit of the point or issue and use labels to discredit. The “Putin troll” lackey crap is about as old as using “racist”. If trust old Joe and his foreign policy and think committing an act of war is a good thing for the people of Germany what’s your argument.

    461. Tgca says:

      JeffP

      I don’t know why you’re surprised.

      We know both historically and currently, the US gubbermint routinely lies, distorts, misrepresents and tries to cover-up and hide information from the public.

      The US gubbermint and its law enforcement and security agencies are no more intellectually honest than most of the dIctatotships around the world.

      The only difference is our gubbermint still operates under a democracy rather than totalitarian rule. But democracy is also about self-preservation of politicians so many of our leaders and agencies often lie and mislead to protect themselves and for their own benefit.

      Every GOP and Dem administration going back 100+ years have been guilty of this. Not one if them is exempt. Presidents may not know every detail of every scandal but often they do know more than they disclosed.

    462. Robbie says:

      While I haven’t seen anything that would qualify as X-Files, I know several who have.

      There were all sorts of reports about small objects operating in the Warning Areas off the Atlantic coast when Navy jets were do training in 2015.

      Everyone should google “foo fighters WWII pilots”.

    463. JeffP says:

      478 I agree. Not surprised by the lying I get it. The Nord Stream issue puts our country at much greater risk and destroys credibility in the EU. Putin is not going to stop his murderous crusade without intervention. Now we have China messing with us for who knows what reason. Our enemies are taking full advantage.

    464. Bitterlaw says:

      JeffP – You believe the Hersh story. I highly doubt it.

      I have never called you or anybody else a Putin troll or toadie or sycophant. However, despite your claimed condemnation of the invasion, your positions reward and encourage it. You oppose providing Ukraine weapons to defend itself. The only party escalating this war is Putin. ALL of the deaths in this war are occurring in Ukraine. Your “peace agreement” ignores the reality that peace now leaves tens of thousands of Russian soldiers firmly in control of Ukrainian territory and citizens.

    465. JeffP says:

      481 Thanks. I understand the potential for the loss of the Donbas region in a peace agreement. It probably doesn’t matter though at this point anyway. Certainly Biden and his administration have no desire for any agreement and Biden is no statesmen. It looks like Trump is going to run on being that person I guess.

    466. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The British are beginning to train Ukrainian pilots in the use of modern jet fighters:

      “Standing alongside Zelenskyy in front of a British-made Challenger 2 tank, Sunak restated that “nothing is off the table” when it comes to provision of military assistance to Ukraine, and said fourth-generation fighter jets were part of his conversation with the Ukrainian president “today, and have been previously.”

      These talks also covered the supply chains required to support such sophisticated aircraft, Sunak said.

      But he cautioned a decision to deliver jets would only be taken in coalition with allies, and said training pilots must come first and could take “some time.”

      “That’s why we have announced today that we will be training Ukrainian air force on NATO-standard platforms, because the first step in being able to provide advanced aircrafts is to have soldiers or aviators who are capable of using them,” Sunak said. “We need to make sure they are able to operate the aircraft they might eventually be using.”

      The first Challenger 2 tanks pledged by Britain will arrive in Ukraine by next month, Sunak added.”

      I could see a peace agreement being negotiated later this year that recognizes Crimea, and areas of Donbass that Russia occupied prior to the 2022 invasion, as part of Russia Ultimately, I doubt Putin will still be in power at the end of 2024. The fool may have cost the lives of over 100,000 young Russians when this is over. With close to a half million young Russians having fled the country. History will not be kind.

    467. Tgca says:

      Who cares about Ukraine. Commie corrupt chithole country.

      Who cares about 2024 POTUS race. Bought and paid for corrupt politicians in a soon-to-be chithole country.

      Let’s get real and discuss what’s REALLY important to MOST people…GENDER IDENTITY.

      Artificial Intelligence App ChatGPT came to the conclusion:

      The concept of gender is complex and culturally specific, and there is NO universally accepted answer to how many genders there are.

      Some cultures recognize only two genders, male and female, while others recognize more than two.

      In recent years, there has been growing recognition of the existence of non-binary and gender non-conforming individuals, who may identify as a mix of male and female, neither male nor female, or as another gender entirely.

      It’s important to understand that gender is a social and cultural construct, and individuals have the right to self-identify and express their gender in the way that feels most authentic and true to themselves.

      The number of genders is NOT fixed, and can vary across cultures and historical periods. Ultimately, the number of genders is a matter of personal and cultural perspective, and can be influenced by factors such as biology, psychology, and social norms.

    468. Gordon Allen says:

      At the rate we’re going the Air Force will start having ACES for 5 shootdowns, and a competition for who has the most!!
      I agree a compromise would ratify Crimea as Russian(Khruschev made it part of Crimea), and those areas in East Ukraine that were “separatist controlled”( Russian) and Russian speaking on February 23,2022 would be annexed by Russia. Russia would have to withdraw from areas along the south part of Ukraine and elsewhere gained after 2/24/22.
      Contrary to Nuts here that would represent a clear victory by Ukraine, and a clear loss for Putin.

    469. jason says:

      Actually Neville Allen’s proposal is not that bad.

      I have advocated myself for a ceasefire that would return the status quo to pre-invasion borders.

      But “Ratify annexation” would not be politically viable for Zelensky, and I certainly don’t agree with the “Russian speaking” part since vast areas of Ukraine are “Russian speaking” but loyal to Ukraine. It would be like saying Spain can annex Puerto Rico because it is “Spanish speaking”.

      IF the Russians agreed to a cease fire that returned the situation to pre-invasion then yes that would be a defeat for both countries. Russia and Ukraine would have endured terrible losses without gains for either one.

      Crimea could become like the “Golan Heights”, Syria has not relinquished its claim to it but it is not getting it back.

    470. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “…that would represent a clear victory by Ukraine, and a clear loss for Putin.”

      Agree Gordon. It would be like the outcome of the Finnish-Russian war in 1939. Even though Finland lost 10% of it’s territory to Russia in the peace settlement, it was a defining moment in Finnish independence. Finland had only broken away from Russia and become independent about 20 years before.

      Likewise any doubt the Ukraine cannot function independent of Russia, and has no national identity is now gone. Putin has blundered badly. He has united the Ukraine, and opened the door to it becoming under western European influence, which is likely to force economic reform and combat corruption.

    471. jason says:

      Again, I don’t think a settlement where Russia gets to keep the areas it occupied before the invasion is politically viable for Putin, just like formally ceding Crimea and separatist areas is not politically viable for Zelensky.

      Of course, the West could come up with “rewards” to encourage an agreement. They could suspend sanctions and restart the pipeline for Russia and promise a reconstruction program for Ukraine to sweeten the deal and give Putin and Zelensky something to sell at home.

      But would the isolationists and protectionists whine about spending another $100 billion on reconstruction instead of arms if it stopped the war? Probably.

    472. jason says:

      LOL, this guy is stupider than Neville Allen.

      David Leavitt
      @David_Leavitt
      If Starlink is blocking the Ukrainian military from using its equipment in the fight against Russia, @elonmusk
      must immediately be arrested and tried for treason.”

      First, Starlink helps Ukrainians.

      Second, treason against whom. Presumably, IF he was a Ukrainian citizen conspiring against Ukraine, he could be tried for treason in Ukraine.

      As a US citizen, even if true, it is not “treason” anywhere.

      Of course, if that it the criteria, let’s send Putin stooge and spokesman Tucker Carlson to be tried for treason in Ukraine. I will even volunteer as witness.

    473. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      One issue that badly needs to be investigated at the conclusion of the war is Hunter Biden’s questionable business activities in the Ukraine; as well as Joe Biden’s actions on getting the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Hunter Biden’s activities fired. Eventually it will all come out. Also I doubt Putin would have attacked Ukraine if it was not for Biden’s cowardly withdraw from Afghanistan. Biden is a total disgrace.

    474. Tina says:

      The unidentified objects being shot down = our weather satellites.

      Don’t kid yourself.

    475. Tina says:

      Wait a minute, I must have a missed a few chapters here.

      I thought the grifter wanted Elon musk arrested all because he said it’s time for a settlement.

    476. Tina says:

      If we are not shoooting down weather satellites, then stuff is bypassing our defenses.

      With the $ going to the war on grifting; the incompetent military leadership,; and the dumb coc, we are phuqed.

    477. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      489. Starlink is critical in helping the Ukrainians target their weaponry. Ukraine should give Elon Musk a medal after the war. I believe the supposed dispute between Ukrainians and Musk several months ago was just for show:

      “Ukrainian troops equipped with devastating HIMARS are waiting for US targeting data before firing on Russian forces, officials say.

      These powerful weapons have been game-changers in Ukraine. Ukrainian troops usually won’t fire their HIMARS without targeting data from the US, officials said”

    478. jason says:

      Ukrainian troops usually won’t fire their HIMARS without targeting data from the US, officials said”

      OMG. Is that an escalation?

    479. JeffP says:

      493 Tina we really are.

      Putin is completely committed to do whatever is necessary in Ukraine. The CCP Xi has his own global ruling worldview. Together they are a very formidable force against the west.

      I have not had the time to research it yet but Russia, China, and several other countries are creating a financial banking system completely separate from the west. Of course nothing about this in the US media.

    480. JeffP says:

      Tina…but the west has the WEF crowd to get their marching orders. Trudeau is trying to force a digital medical ID in Canada like a good soldier.

    481. JeffP says:

      Musk is limiting Starlink for drones…but Twitter is hot and heavy with war propaganda bots right now.

    482. Tina says:

      They are stupid, not to realize that the Ccp are the immediate aka the primary threat.

      The Ccp are launching spy balloons and other stuff that are evading our defenses, or we cannot get them.

      They launched a virus and will do so again (With $ we gave them for gof).

      They don’t care.

      In the meanwhile Pooty poot, who also does not care, is bogged down in Ukraine,

      They are not our main threat.

    483. jason says:

      Good for the Golden Calf.

      “Florida lawmakers voted Thursday to give Gov. Ron DeSantis new power over the state’s most iconic theme parks amid his ongoing feud with Disney.

      Under a fast-tracked bill that could be headed to the Republican governor’s desk by the end of the week, the state would take over the Reedy Creek Improvement District, the 55-year-old government body that has effectively given Disney control over the land around its Orlando-area theme parks. The district’s existing board, made up of individuals with close ties to Disney, would be replaced by a five-member board hand-picked by DeSantis.

      The state House, where Republicans hold a supermajority, passed the measure on an 82-31 vote. The GOP-led state Senate is expected to take up the bill within the next 36 hours. If the measure passes the chamber, it will go to DeSantis for final approval. He is expected to sign it.”

    484. jason says:

      Together they are a very formidable force against the west. ”

      Yah thinks?

      Is that why you think its a good idea to support Putin’s “Greater Russia” fantasy?

    485. jason says:

      Putin is completely committed to do whatever is necessary in Ukraine.”

      So isn’t it time we announce we are completely committed to do whatever it takes to thwart him?

    486. jason says:

      They are not our main threat.”

      Zzzz…

      Unfortunately threats don’t come in order and they don’t allow for one at a time, maybe they do in video games. In the real world, you can face multiple threats.

      You deal with ALL threats and right now Putin is the one actually engaged in military action. Allowing him to restart the USSR because we “also face a threat from China” is isolationist trash.

    487. Tina says:

      LTG (R) Mike Flynn

      @GenFlynn
      ·
      13h
      Be very careful chasing shiny objects…just when you least expect, you’ll get punched so hard in the nose, you’ll not recover.

      Steady boys, steady ????????????

    488. Tina says:

      Kissing the cops arse because you want more cheap junk is turning s blind eye to reality.
      The only one who has threatened us (militarily and economically) is the Ccp.

      Ignoring the virus and the spy balloons purposely launched into our country is utter stupidity.

      The same gop-e that allowed for the stupid retreat in Afghanistan outsourced to the Taliban.

    489. jason says:

      is bogged down in Ukraine”

      Not really. He has conquered vast amounts of territory he didn’t have before the invasion.

      The war is being fought in Ukraine and all the destruction is occurring there. He has tens of thousands of square miles he did not have before.

      Russia is not losing. In any classical definition of war, it is winning. It is just not winning as much as it planned in the time frame it planned, which is different.

      A cease fire right without a Russian withdrawal would be a major Russian win and a huge defeat for Ukraine. That is why Zelensky and the West should not entertain it.

    490. Paul says:

      If Russia goes back to the status quo of pre-2022 with Russia controlling Crimea and half of Donbass that would be VERY agreeable and a WIN for Ukraine. Russia WILL NOT agree to that unless they suffer some major defeats.

    491. Tima says:

      Sounds like Milley was sent himself, or maybe the 3 masks defense secretary. We are so phuqed just because Biden cucked handling the spy balloon and our defense department is inept.

      NORAD statement: “NORAD detected a radar anomaly (in Montana) and sent fighter aircraft to investigate. Those aircraft did not identify any object to correlate to the radar hits”

    492. jason says:

      issing the cops arse because you want more cheap junk”

      Ah yes, let the consumers eat cake….

      “Junk” is in the eye of the beholder.

      My Apple computer is offended it was called junk.

      It says GFY.

    493. Tina says:

      We can print more $$$ to rebuild our military and defense, ignore the Ccp, and give more. money to the grifter.

      -gop-e.

    494. jason says:

      If Russia goes back to the status quo of pre-2022 with Russia controlling Crimea and half of Donbass that would be VERY agreeable and a WIN for Ukraine.”

      Agreeable yes. Acceptable yes.

      A WIN? No. Ukraine and its economy has undergone tremendous destruction and 25% of its population exiled or displaced. Tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians killed.

    495. jason says:

      the grifter”

      You mean Ukrainian hero Zelensky?

      The Putin toadies hate Zelensky and LOVE Putin.

      Sad.

    496. Tina says:

      This seems like a winning chamber of Ccp commerce, Paulo Ryano, and the club for ccp growth strategy.

      Print more $ for the dod.

      Ignore the CCP.

      Chase weather satellites.

      Amnesty and more open borders.

      More blank checks to the ungrateful grifter.

      GO FULL anti vax.

      Keep fired workers fired due to vax mandates.

      Cut social security and Medicare (Paulo Ryano specialty).

    497. jason says:

      It’s also sad that the Putin lapdogs always refer to military aid to Ukraine as going to the “grifter” or Zelensky.

      I guess they are just too ashamed to admit the aid is going to Ukrainian troops in the battlefield against the Russians.

    498. Tina says:

      This is alarming.

      The Ccp spy balloons or objects are evading our defense capabilities.

      We have to deal with this asap. We are behind.

      And don’t have any room for error.

      Endless $$$ given to the grifter is hurting our capabilities. And our leadership is incompetent.

    499. jason says:

      More blank checks to the ungrateful grifter.”

      Bingo.

      And now of all things he is “ungrateful”.

      What utter drivel.

    500. jason says:

      Endless $$$ given to the grifter is hurting our capabilities. ”

      Zzzz…

      It is not “endless”, it is not enough, and it is in OUR interest.

      And the aid is going to Ukraine’s military, not to Zelensky, that is a crock of crap.

      Fortunately, the Putin lapdogs can whine all they want, aid to Ukraine is going to be increased, not decreased.

      Deal with it.

    501. JeffP says:

      504 I saw that. He understands the war for global dominance and control better than most. That’s why they had to take him out at the beginning of Trumps administration. Trump has a keen awareness of these things too. Neither of them are going to submit like the rest of the west to the WEF agenda and surrender our values for the global good.

    502. Paul says:

      I think the pro-Putin crowd likes to exaggerate any depletion of our military. Ukraine is only a fraction of our full military expenditures. If there is major depletion it is a scandal that really is separate from Ukraine.

    503. Phil says:

      China is the absolute main threat to our national interest waaay more than Russia.

      That’s just a fact. Doesn’t mean we ignore Russia at all but China is the power capable of expansion far more than Putin’s Russia. Notice I said capable. Militarily and Economically and it’s not close….and militarily their military might continues to expand. The first time they send one of our aircraft carriers to the bottom of the sea maybe it will hit home.

    504. JeffP says:

      The .”restarting USSR” is not the plan. That would mean a war with NATO and WW 3.

      Putin and Russia nationalism has a much bigger vision than that. But you don’t really care to take the time to understand the difference….then you use derogatory names just like the Woke Commie Dems do.

    505. Tgca says:

      This is shameful and despicable!

      The Florida legislature has passed a bill that will relocate illegal immigrants that the US has processed and released that either are in or move to FL.

      The argument is that they put an undue burden on Floridians including crime increases.

      Do they plan to relocate Cubans too who tend to vote GOP or is it just people from the southern border who are more embraced by Dems?

      For years many cities in the US have tried to get rid of their homeless by OFFERING them money and bus tickets to other cities more tolerant of homelessness. But now we’re talking about targeting people from certain countries, generally people of color.

      I hope this is thrown out by federal courts.

      …and what gives Floreedah a right to ship their undesirables to other states of their choosing? What if other states ship them back or send Floreedah it’s criminals? This is playing with people, and using them as pawns.

      I agree it’s wrong what the US gubbermint is doing and states should sue and seek remedies for the impact states are experiencing, but creating an official state office where GOP political operatives will decide who stays and goes and herds them out of state is vile and disgusting, and reminiscent of something you expect from Nazi Germany and not the US.

      Living in Florida, I know there is still a lot of racism and bigotry here but you don’t expect it to come so blatantly from the GOP Legislature.

      This is a political stunt by DeSanctimonius and his right-wing supporters and will not reflect well across the US. This will define DeSanctimonius as a bigot nationally and rightfully so.

      This is inexcusable!

      https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2023/02/11/florida-legislature-passes-bill-allowing-state-to-relocate-illegal-immigrants/

    506. jason says:

      The .”restarting USSR” is not the plan. That would mean a war with NATO and WW 3.

      Putin and Russia nationalism has a much bigger vision than that”

      LOL, Putin’s plan is bigger than the USSR.

      Actually, I can believe.

      More reason to stop it in its tracks NOW.

    507. jason says:

      The .”restarting USSR” is not the plan. That would mean a war with NATO and WW 3.”

      Zzzzz… BS.

      Getting back Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, and some of the stans would be a great start for the new USSR. In terms of territory/resources it would probably get back 80% of the old USSR.

      The resources in those countries will strengthen Russia to then pressure for more concessions.

    508. Phil says:

      The military limitations of the Russian military have become obvious to everyone by now. Finally gone are the scare tactic talking point of Russian aggression into NATO countries. You can advocate defending Ukraine without the BS argument that you are defending Ukraine as the way to prevent a Russian invasion of Poland or some other NATO country. Russia doesn’t have that capability, and everyone knows it…..most of all Putin. He would love for Russia to have that capability, but he doesn’t. People in hell want ice water.

    509. Tgca says:

      DeSanctimonius better hope there is no accident by one of these contractors the law allows them to hire to cattle undesirables out of Florida.

      Imagine a bus crash injuring or killing illegals that he authorized DEPORTED from Floreedah.

      I say if DeSanctimonius feels so strongly about this he has to get rid of the increasing number of Cubans landing on Florida beaches as well. Just this last week, groups of Cubans totaling 50 arrived illegally in Floreedah. It’s been an ongoing problem here.

      Should they be shipped to NYC? …or just the 70 Haitians that also arrived illegally last week via boats?

      This is going to backfire on the GOP.

      It’s one thing to offer people passage with promise to another state that will help assimilate them into the US and another thing to have a sanctioned gubbermint funded State DEPORTATION Office, forcing select people out of the state.

      What if they refuse to go? Will they be prosecuted?

      The law is very ambiguous.

    510. jason says:

      I think the pro-Putin crowd likes to exaggerate any depletion of our military.”

      There are like 500 excuses by the Putin stooges on why Ukraine should surrender.

      That is just one of them.

      If this piddly aid we are giving Ukraine (let’s face it this is peanuts… 51 tanks… wow) is making such a big difference in our arsenal then we were “depleted” long before Ukraine came along.

      And not everything provided is “state of the art”. Stinger missiles have been around since 1978.

      In any case, Raytheon got a $625 million contract for 1300 more Stingers to replenish the stock. They will be more modern and efficient than the ones given Ukraine.

    511. Tina says:

      They did flynn poorly. Obama fired him because flynn told him that he was not winning and that the Ccp were the threat.

      Now, we are seeing the fruits. We are tapped and our military is failing. They are ignoring the home front to aid the grifter.

    512. jason says:

      I fully support the Golden Calf’s initiative and think everything Tgca Clown just wrote about it is complete garbage.

    513. jason says:

      And I make a bet most Floridians will approve too.

    514. jason says:

      Of course Tgca Clown will call them racists.

    515. jason says:

      I don’t agree with Flynn on almost anything.

      That being said, his prosecution was an absolute joke.

    516. Tina says:

      China is the threat. Let’s wake up here.

      Not a good thing that Biden said the spy ballon incursion was insignificant.

      He used careless words to egg on Pooty poot by allowing for the limited incursion into Ukraine. I know some here want to ignore his statements.

    517. Phil says:

      I’m fine with the Abrams tanks going to the Ukraine. Several reasons. This is aid we can keep track of and know it’s going to the front lines. No graft or skimming of direct cash. Second, those tanks are actually effective in that kind of war. Finally, they won’t be depleting what we need to fight China. They wouldn’t be used in the coming battle of Taiwan anyway.

    518. Gordon Allen says:

      31 Abrams tanks will have virtually zero effect. That’s for show, and to goose the Europeans some.
      Tanks in congested, semi urban terrain are sitting ducks on a modern battlefield absent having overwhelming air superiority at their back.
      Which Ukraine does not have.

    519. Phil says:

      Agreed that the 31 tanks are mainly for show. They do have some effect although I agree that with no air cover they are going to be rather vulnerable to Russian air power. No doubt. They were decisive in the Gulf War but again, that was with no Iraqi air presence whatsoever.

    520. Gordon Allen says:

      #487. This is obvious, but to everyone who thinks not going back to the status quo of 2013-which will never happen any more than Putin’s 190,000 supermen could conquer Ukraine- is a “Ukraine Surrender” , their wish is to fight to the last Ukrainian from the comfort of their easy chair.
      Milley( I know) says the Joint Chiefs( and it’s intelligence) think Ukrainian casualties are not actually substantially lower than Russian casualties, which means per capita( to population) they are in fact much heavier.This is a good deal for Napoleon Zelensky( if Putin would take it.)
      China is our main threat across the spectrum of espionage, economics, political influence( here in the US), and military, and Zelensky’s dreams are totally unimportant at this time.

    521. Tgca says:

      FYI. Since Oct 2022, approximately 5,000 Cubans have come here illegally, a huge increase from the other 6,000 that came in the 1st 9 months of 2022 for a total of 11,000 in 13 months.

      Deporting Cubans out of state will have a detrimental impact on the GOP in Floreedah politics.

      It’s all about the optics! When Cubans in south Floreedah see this, expect a backlash.

      The MSM will broadcast this 24/7, as I hope they do because it’s a vile and disgusting law to pass.

      Expect other GOP politicians to distance themselves from Floreedah.

    522. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      *Russia WILL NOT agree to that unless they suffer some major defeats”

      The Russians have lost over a 100,000 military deaths. The number of wounded is much higher. Over a half a million young Russians males have fled Russia to avoid the draft. They have been pushed by Ukrainians out of about 40% of the original Ukrainian territory they occupied. They have been attacking a small Donbass city for many months now, and despite human wave attacks, they still have not taken it. The Wagner mercenary group can no longer get prisoners to join, because the prisoners know they will be killed.

      This doesn’t constitute a major defeat? Everyone assumed at the beginning of the invasion that Putin’s military would crush the Ukrainians in about two weeks.

      For a relatively low price, we are financing the destruction of the Russian military. It would be an act of total stupidity not to continue doing so.

    523. jason says:

      nd Zelensky’s dreams are totally unimportant at this time.”

      LOL.

      Is that in one of your stupid magazines or video games?

      Ukraine’s fight for survival is not about Zelensky.

      Ukraine is not a “dream”. It is a sovereign country of 40 million people being invaded by a despot.

    524. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Ukrainian military has taken a lot of casualties, but nowhere near what Russia has suffered. Mainly this is because Ukraine has fought mostly on the defensive. The Russians by contrast have made human wave attacks, and initially did not protect their troops from drone attacks. Then there is training and morale. A lot of the Russian troops have been poorly trained and badly lead. It is appalling how badly the Russian military command has been.

      The Ukraine is also getting volunteers from other countries. The newest wave:

      The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said on Monday that 20,000 foreign fighters had already applied to enlist into the foreign legion. GUR said that the volunteers were from 52 different countries, and were “mostly experienced fighters who have participated in many peacekeeping campaigns around the world.””

    525. Paul says:

      Time to give them air superiority then.

    526. Tgca says:

      529

      Garbage? Have you read the law?

      They are putting in place an office to DEPORT people given federal gubbermint documentation to temporarily remain in the US. The bill allows them to apply this ANY state too, not only illegals in Floreedah.

      They have allocated $10M for this office and will be hiring contractors to facilitate the DEPORTATIONS.

      Do you agree that state personnel should remove those from the state when they have temporary federal authority to be in the US?

      Simple question, yes or no?

      Will they apply this to the 11,000 Cubans that arrived in Floreedah since Jan 2022?

      This is disgraceful! This is not how we do things in the US even when there are legitimate grievances not being satisfactorily addressed.

      DeSanctimonius is weaponizing laws to go after Disney, teachers, and now DOCUMENTED aliens. The GOP legislature even shot down an Dem amendment to protect green card holders. That means they can ship green card holders out of Floreedah.

      You can’t be against Dems weaponizing the DOJ and FBI but ok with DeSanctimonius weaponizing laws in Floreedah.

      This is dangerous precedent and RACIST! It will backfire on the GOP, as it should. This is not the 1950s where southern states tried to keep people of color in a box by passing unjust RACIST laws.

    527. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      If the United States had stood back and done nothing for the Ukraine, like it did in Afghanistan, don’t you think that would emboldened China further into attacking Taiwan? It would have shown again after Afghanistan that the U.S. was a paper tiger, and this time it was so regarding a more strategic country.

      If anything the U.S. and NATO’s support of Ukraine has discouraged China from attacked Taiwan. We have shown our dog can bite.

    528. jason says:

      This doesn’t constitute a major defeat?”

      No, it is merely failure to meet expectations, which is different.

      The Russian concept of “defeat” is not the same as ours. Russia has lost more men in a year than the US lost in a dozen years in Vietnam. Ten times more than the US lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

      Here in the US such losses would be considered “defeat”. In Russia, they may have a different view. Maybe it is worth it because they are rebuilding Greater Russia.

      The Russians lost by their own account 8.6 million military deaths in WWII, but they celebrate the win. We think it is horrendous we lost 250k total Europe and Pacific.

      Total USSR dead including civilians in WWII was 27 million out of a population of about 190 million, about 14% of the population, roughly one in seven. 14% of the US population in 1945 would have meant 20 million dead, an unfathomable number.

      All relative.

    529. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      My hunch is in a month or two fighter jets are on the table. The Russians already know it’s a possibility.

    530. jason says:

      This is dangerous precedent and RACIST!”

      It is great legislation and nothing racist about it.

      If the US had adopted such legislation at the US border with Mexico, you would be for it.

      You have GCDS. Golden Calf Derangement Syndrome.

      Again, show me a poll where Floridians oppose this law.

    531. jason says:

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      February 12, 2023 at 1:01 pm

      My hunch is in a month or two fighter jets are on the table.”

      The sooner the better.

      Of course the Putin Admiration Society will call it an “escalation”.

    532. jason says:

      This is a good deal for Napoleon Zelensky”

      Wow.

      Neville Allen has gone full nutcase now.

      Zelensky is Napoleon?

      LOL

    533. jason says:

      What empire is “Napoleon Zelensky” trying to build?

    534. Paul says:

      Once the jets arrive, the ONLY option will be for Putin to start WWW3.

    535. jason says:

      I think the only option will be nukes.

      I read that here.

    536. jason says:

      The Superbowl flyover will be F-35s by all-female Navy pilots.

      Next year they will all be gay, and in 2024 all transgender.

      2025? Illegal aliens.

    537. jason says:

      Hmmm next year is 2024?

      GFYs.

    538. jason says:

      I made some bets on SB parlays. I won’t be watching but I will check later to see how much money is in betting account.

      For example, we need the Eagles to cover, Jalon (?) to pass for over 250 yds and 2 TDs. Tks.

    539. jason says:

      I predict Andy Reid will do something stupid during game.

      Any takers?

    540. Phil says:

      553

      LOL

      Obviously kidding, but, sadly, probably not much of a stretch.

    541. Tgca says:

      547

      You contradict yourself. You usually support ILLEGAL immigration but now you’re for targeting them.

      The US federal gubbermint has the authority to remove ILLEGALS from the US and should. I agree with that! They should NOT catch and release them is my view but currently, unless they are overruled by the courts, they have that authority.

      At the same time, states should not have laws hunting down federally documented illegal aliens and DEPORTING them to other states because they don’t like a federal policy, especially using contractors to do this.

      That is RACIST! …and it harkens back to the southern laws against minorities of yesteryear.

      How is this different than southern states defying blacks the right to attend white schools after courts dismantled segregation in the 1950s?

      The fact that the Floreedah GOP even refused to exempt green card holders is very suspicious and concerning.

      So now the state of Floreedah is deciding who and who cannot stay in the US, regardless of US policy, and regardless of what state they’re located in.

      You whine when Dems try to pass discriminatory laws but you NOW embrace discriminatory laws from a Republican.

      I can’t wait until other GOPers, especially in northeast and Midwest states start piling on Floreedah for this, as they should.

      DeSanctimonius is channeling Pat Buchanan from 1992.

      I will be reaching out to Cuban-Anerican politicians in south Floreedah on this to ask them their position on this. Will they be in favor of DEPORTING 11,000 illegal Cubans who entered Floreedah in 2022. That is one question I will be putting forth to them.

    542. jason says:

      You usually support ILLEGAL immigration but now you’re for targeting them.”

      I never supported illegal immigration.

      GFY.

    543. JeffP says:

      The EU and NATO countries are still not unified on how far to go in equipping Ukraine. NATO was created as a defensive alliance against the USSR. Everyone knows this in the EU. Zelenskyy left Brussels the other day with a 2 year plan to join EU and NATO. Not much in light of the crisis.

      As I have posted before they talk big have photo ops and deliver the bare minimum of what could really defeat Russia. NATO Fighter jets would bring us closer to WW 3.

    544. jason says:

      That is RACIST!”

      Why is it racist?

      Does it target any particular race?

      Illegal immigrants come in all races.

      There is nothing racist about this law.

      Nada, zilch, zero.

      Again, I bet most Floridians agree with it.

    545. JeffP says:

      The CCP does not fear us at all.

    546. jason says:

      NATO Fighter jets would bring us closer to WW 3.”

      JeffP is really a pathological liar.

      Nobody is talking about NATO jets, we are talking about fighter jets to be flown by Ukrainian pilots not NATO.

      And of course, zzzzz, JeffP thinks any defensive aid given to Ukraine “brings us closer to WWIII”.

      There is only ONE thing that might have brought us closer to WWIII. Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

      It’s funny how JeffP never mentions that.

    547. jason says:

      Ukraine should be accepted into the EU immediately.

    548. jason says:

      Joining NATO at the moment is not feasible without defined borders. The minute Ukraine joins NATO and Russian troops are within its borders it automatically subjects them to attack. It should have happened before the invasion. However, it is in the interest of NATO to weaken the Russians and the best way to do that is to keep supplying Ukraine with weapons and training and other intelligence and logistics support.

    549. jason says:

      Puppy Bowl starting. Nothing woke yet.

      I am heavily invested in Team Fluff. But Team Ruff is a force to dealt with.

    550. jason says:

      Not one puppy kneeled during the National Anthem!

    551. jason says:

      Fluff 7 Ruff 0

      $$$$$$$!

    552. JeffP says:

      NATO countries Jets not NATO jets. Not that it’s not the same in some EU countries minds.

      Ukraine will never be a part of the EU. So get over that.

      Air Space closed over Lake Michigan now.

    553. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      2024 Nevada General Election Poll:

      DeSantis 42% (+6)
      Biden 36%

      Trump 42% (+2)
      Biden 40%

      @OHPredictive/@TheNVIndy
      800 RV 1/30-2/6

    554. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Wow! Henry Kissinger is now supporting Ukraine in NATO:

      “Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger argued on Tuesday that Ukrainian membership of NATO would be “appropriate” after peace has been secured.

      Speaking at the World Economic Forum via Zoom, the 99-year-old said that although he was against Ukraine joining NATO before the invasion, it was now a desired outcome. “Before this war I was opposed to the membership of Ukraine in NATO because I feared it would start exactly the process we are seeing now,” he said. But now, “the idea of a neutral Ukraine in these conditions is no longer meaningful.””

    555. jason says:

      So much for “Russian nationalism”…

      “DONBAS REGION, Ukraine — The soldier knelt in the snow, aimed a rocket launcher and fired in the direction of Russian troops positioned about 1 mile away. He was set up at a Ukrainian firing position and looked just like the other Ukrainian troops fighting south of the city of Bakhmut in one of the most brutal theaters of the war.

      But he and his comrades are not Ukrainian. They are soldiers in a Ukrainian military unit made up entirely of Russians who are fighting and killing their own countrymen.

      They have taken up arms against Russia for a variety of reasons: a sense of moral outrage at their country’s invasion, a desire to defend their adopted homeland of Ukraine or because of a visceral dislike of Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin. And they have earned enough trust from Ukrainian commanders to take their place among the forces viciously fighting the Russian military.

      “A real Russian man doesn’t engage in such an aggressive war, won’t rape children, kill women and elderly people,” said one Russian fighter with the military call sign Caesar, ticking off atrocities committed by Russian soldiers that motivated him to leave his native St. Petersburg and fight for Ukraine. “That’s why I don’t have remorse. I do my job, and I’ve killed a lot of them.”

    556. jason says:

      Wow! Henry Kissinger is now supporting Ukraine in NATO:

      “Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger argued on Tuesday that Ukrainian membership of NATO would be “appropriate” after peace has been secured.

      Speaking at the World Economic Forum via Zoom, the 99-year-old said that although he was against Ukraine joining NATO before the invasion, it was now a desired outcome. “Before this war I was opposed to the membership of Ukraine in NATO because I feared it would start exactly the process we are seeing now,” he said. But now, “the idea of a neutral Ukraine in these conditions is no longer meaningful.”

      I agree. Who is going to trust the Russians again.

      Neutrality my ass. Ukraine will need NATO’s protection.

    557. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      And two NATO countries are offering Ukraine fighter jets. Britain is already training the Ukrainian pilots to fly them

      “Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy extracted promises from the leaders of Poland and Slovakia to send fighter jets to Ukraine at an EU summit where he sought to cajole allies to step up their military aid.”

    558. Cash Cow TM says:

      COW THEORIES ON the balloon air incursions over U.S.

      1. Chiner is sending up various sized balloons with varying sized payloads to se ho small they can go before the U.S. cannot detect them.

      First one was a big a$$ed balloon with payload the size of 3 busses.

      Another one with payload the size of a small car.
      One over MT that was spotted by radar but interceptor planes could not find was smaller?

      BTW, what ever happened to the other Chiner balloon transiting over Latin America?

      Cow thinks the ChiComs are trying to figgur out how small a payload they can put up there that will avoid detection.
      **********************************************

      2. Chiner is eventually planning to launch enough balloons with EMP weapon devices so that they have 3 or 4 over the U.S. at any one time.

      When they invade Taiwan, they will all U.S. and tell them to stand down and not get involved or else they will detonate the EMPs and fry power grid and all electronics in U.S. and create chaos in U.S. for months/years.

      *******************************************

      3. OR…perhaps the China balloon assault is to designed to DROP their payloads in remote parts of U.S. and months later the cylinders (carrying EMP or dirty bombs, or biological weapons or whatever) be activated. The case will pop open, another balloon will be inflated and the payload will lift up over the U.S. and be ready to go into action on their command.

      **************************************

      4 OR…perhaps the Rooshans are behind the latest two smaller balloons and are trying to either cause mischief of their own (See #1, #2 #3 above) or else trying to get U.S. and China into a war to take U.S. military supplies off the table in Ukraine.

      ###################################

      Comments are welcomed.

    559. Jeffpee says:

      This is a terrible escalation.

      Just when the Russians were de-escalating by only bombing Ukrainian cities 23 hours a day instead of 24.

      The war will never end with these aggressive Ukrainian defensive moves.

    560. Cash Cow TM says:

      OR…maybe the balloons are from alien beings.

      ###############################

      BT, how come we are not seeing the release of any video footage of the last two shootdowns?

      WHEN will be get updates on what they recover from the crash/shootdown sites?

    561. ssq says:

      It could be that the CCP was just having a bday party and some of the balloons got away?

    562. JeffP says:

      Ukraine will never be a member of NATO. It’s the red line.

      It’s pretty telling when people root for Kissinger at the WEF. I have a secret to tell you…the WEF is a much bigger threat to you personally than Russia and it’s not even close. I am absolutely sure you have know idea how deep it goes…but you will eventually.

      You probably don’t believe this but Putins intentions are far more evil than you think.

    563. jason says:

      Cow has the best balloon analysis I have read so far.

    564. jason says:

      I am absolutely sure you have know idea how deep it goes…but you will eventually.”

      I look forward to it.

      Now let’s get down to the problem actually at hand, which is getting the Russians out of Ukraine.

    565. jason says:

      Ukraine will never be a member of NATO. It’s the red line.”

      Red line by whom?

      Sorry, your man Putin doesn’t get to decide what sovereign country joins NATO.

      Unless Russia joins, then it can veto Ukraine.

      Barring that, Putin has zero say.

    566. jason says:

      Meanwhile, I am winning big on the Puppy Bowl, my team Fluff is ahead 21-14.

      I hope I get to use the money before we are nuked.

    567. jason says:

      21-21 dammit.

    568. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Britain and France support providing fighter jets for Ukraine.

      “Britain, which less than a fortnight ago appeared to rule out sending either of its active models of warplane, was the first stop and Prime Minister Rishi Sunak welcomed his counterpart from Kyiv with a pledge to train Ukrainian pilots to fly Nato-compatible aircraft.

      After Mr Zelensky thanked the UK “in advance” for sending ”powerful English planes”, he and the prime minister were photographed wearing fighter pilot helmets, in what was widely seen as a nod towards London’s intentions. Mr Sunak also said he had ordered his defence secretary to inquire as to which jets the UK could feasibly supply from its fleets of Typhoons and F-35s.

      On Thursday, the Ukrainian president headed to Paris, where he met French president Emmanuel Macron and German president Olaf Scholz. France had earlier signalled a willingness to supply jets, while Germany had rejected Kyiv’s pleas and criticised what he called a “constant competition to outbid each other when it comes to weapons systems”.”

    569. jason says:

      You Putin sycophants have to decide on a coherent narrative.

      On one hand, Putin is a harmless prankster just up to a little mischief in Ukraine. He would not harm a fly and his military is weak and innefective.

      On the other hand, we have to avoid angering him because he is very powerful and evil and thus we have to let him invade and conquer anything he wants.

      Maybe you Putin lapdogs should have a conference to sort it out.

      No, don’t worry, take all the time you want.

    570. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      579. Ukraine will never be a member of NATO. It’s the red line.

      It’s coming. Before Putin goes bonkers in response, am sure the Russian military will send someone to put a bullet in his head. The paranoid little man is reported by many sources to be in very bad health.

      However, if Putin totally withdraws from Ukraine, and agrees to demilitarize the border, am sure Ukraine will agree not to join NATO for the time being.

    571. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      579. “You probably don’t believe this but Putins intentions are far more evil than you think.”

      We think he is pretty evil as it is. Any insight what Mr Evildoer plans to do.

    572. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I lived with a Russian once. He had even served in the Russian military. He used to make leading comments like JeffP’s: “You probably don’t believe this but Putins intentions are far more evil than you think.” Ok, give us a hint.

    573. Phil says:

      Putin is, of course, not a “harmless prankster.” His military is also not “weak”but conventionally he is extremely limited as the last year has clearly shown. Too limited to pose a realistic military threat to Europe unless he wants to get what’s left of his military decimated. Nuclear wise he could do massive damage, but he can’t use his nuclear arsenal without committing suicide. He was counting on Ukraine surrendering without a fight. One that didn’t happen he was screwed.

      China, on the other hand, is the genuine threat. They would give us all we can handle in the Pacific. Taiwan would be a blood bath for both side with the result in total doubt.

      China scares the hell out of me. Russia? No.

    574. jason says:

      Good. So we don’t have to fear Putin while we aid Ukraine?

      I agree.

    575. JeffPee says:

      Putin is way more evil than you realize. But the evil from Putin is miniscule compared to the evil of the WEF Chamber of Commerce.

    576. Bitterlaw says:

      Team Ruff is a second half team. This game is far from over.

    577. Phil says:

      So we don’t have to fear Putin while we aide Ukraine.

      That’s about the size of it.

      As long as we don’t sacrifice American lives for the preservation of the Ukraine. Of course, I don’t know anyone outside of Bill Kristol (he’d love it) who would favor that. Oh wait. There’s that Lying POS Alexander Vindman who would happily like to see American youth thrown into the Ukraine meat grinder.

    578. Tgca says:

      561

      Do you really believe that GOP is going to target Cubans in Floreedah? If they did that, they’d lose a large majority of current Cuban voters just like CA lost Latino voters under Pete Wilson after he targeted illegal immigrants in a perceived harsh and unsympathetic manner, and the CA GOP has never recovered from that as Latinos fled the GOP.

      Any attack on Cubans in Floreedah, legal or illegal, by a GOP politician is pretty much a death sentence and a pox on the GOP.

      The latest data I could find is from 2019 reports with 770K illegals in Floreedah, and about 50% of them are from Mexico and Central America, not likely to assimilate to the GOP. Another 10% from the Caribbean, mostly Haiti and Cuba. About 30% from South America, and outside Venezuela, probably must of these will not be rushing to the GOP either.

      The biggest countries of origin of illegals in Florida are Mexico (by far), Venezuela, Guatemala, and Honduras but keep in mind these are from 2019 reports that were put together from surveys gathered in years prior to 2019.

      We know we’ve seen a recent influx from Cuba and Haiti the last 2 years with much more expected, as well as an influx from Central America since Biden took office.

      So unless the GOP is going after illegal Cuban immigrants, 11,000 alone the last year (about 15% of total cumulative illegals from the Carribean), I would say this GOP policy is directed at certain groups and their immediate descendants they doubt will vote GOP in the future.

      This is all about politics and grandstanding using poor immigrants as bait in their disagreements with the feds.

      I think that is disastrous policy.

      It’s very Pat Buchanan approach to addressing illegal immigration.

    579. Tgca says:

      561

      In addition, I went and looked back at party support of Prop 187, also called Save Our State initiative in CA, as if that name was not insulting to CA Latinos.

      Over 60% of white non-Hispanics supported it while less than 30% of Hispanics supported it.

      They was back when GOP were still elected to statewide offices and even controlled CA Congress.

      Oddly enough, as I have mentioned many times in the past, AA also supported Prop 187 by a little over 50% but then later their memories failed them as they referred to it as racist.

      I was living in CA at the time and remember reading stories from AA leaders that illegals from Mexico were stealing AA jobs. As if most AA were working picking crops and menial jobs in restaurants.

    580. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      594. By supplying weaponry to a country willing to fight aggressively like Ukraine, we get to observe how well various weapons systems work. In the Ukraine; we’re observing both ours and Russian systems. Frankly, Russia is showing itself to be a second rate military power, with a population that does not like war. What percentage of young Russian males would have fled Russia if Putin had not gone into a panic and closed his borders. As it is, the estimates are about 500,000 draft age males fled.

    581. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      As far as China, I would place tactical nuclear weapons in Taiwan. Let China know any fleet they send across the straits to invade Taiwan will be vaporized. China does not have much of a naval warfare history. An invasion across the straits is a very difficult military operation.

      I was strongly opposed to the invasion of Iraq, and the extended occupation of Afghanistan; likewise I see no reason for U.S. troops in Ukraine or Taiwan. Provide them weapons and let them defend themselves.

    582. Phil says:

      No. No American troops in Taiwan….but there would be no avoiding direct naval engagement. The Chinese would have to be prevented from establishing beachheads on the Taiwanese coast. Their invasion force would be most vulnerable as they tried to cross the strait. That is where we would do the real damage. The question would be how much damage they could do to our carrier groups. We just don’t know the answer to that. No one knows the outcome of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. It could go either way. One thing we couldn’t afford to do is to just sit out Chinese aggression towards Taiwan. I’m not convinced a Biden administration wouldn’t do just that. They are so pathetically weak.

    583. Gordon Allen says:

      I thought I was joking about the Air Force developing Aces as things are going.
      No joke now. Biden has to level with us-if he Knows- as this is getting out of hand.
      Like now.

    584. Phil says:

      Don’t hold your breath waiting, Gordon.

    585. jason says:

      80 to 80 going to overtime.

      I could lose my ass.

    586. jason says:

      Zzzzzzz… who cares about polling in California years ago.

      I think this law will be popular in FL, even among Hispanics.

      If I am wrong show me the poll that says so.

    587. jason says:

      The only reason I don’t support US troops in Taiwan is that I don’t think that is where they are needed. The Taiwanese can defend their own beaches.

      What is needed is for US subs to attack all the bases in China supporting the invasion with cruise missiles, and US naval and air power destroy the Chinese ships carrying troops to Taiwan.

      Troops on the ground in Taiwan are not needed.

    588. jason says:

      Fluff wins Puppy Bowl in OT 87-83 and jason cashes in.

      GFYs.

    589. jason says:

      I almost crapped my pants when Ruff scored in OT, but a last second TD by Fluff sealed the win.

    590. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      599. Missile and drone technology is far enough advanced that you would not need a carrier group in vicinity of the Straits. The technology is there to launch missiles and drones from far away. We are in a whole new age of warfare. We saw what happened when Russia tried to use 20th century warfare tactics in the Ukraine.

    591. Bitterlaw says:

      Team Fluff wins in OT. Not sure if it covered the spread.

    592. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      494. “Ukrainian troops equipped with devastating HIMARS are waiting for US targeting data before firing on Russian forces, officials say.

      These powerful weapons have been game-changers in Ukraine. Ukrainian troops usually won’t fire their HIMARS without targeting data from the US, officials said”

      Don’t forget the information from post 494. The U.S is providing target information for HIMARS by satellite from the U.S. Likewise, missiles and drones could be targeted and launched at a Chinese invasion force from far away. This ain’t your grandaddy’s war anymore.

    593. jason says:

      There was a spread? Uh, oh.

    594. jason says:

      599. Missile and drone technology is far enough advanced that you would not need a carrier group in vicinity of the Straits.”

      True. Also mines can be dropped from aircraft/drones and make it hell for any vessels to reach the coach. Getting mine sweepers close enough to clear them would be very difficult.

    595. Tgca says:

      Again, more weaponization of laws by Floreedah to target those it disagrees with now that the FL legislature has officially voted on party lines to dissolve Disney’s self-governing district it held since 1967 because DeSanctimonius got his feelings hurt.

      This VINDICTIVE legislation was done ONLY because Disney senior management fought the Floreedah GOP over woke issues and then promised to withhold campaign donations to Floreedah GOP politicians. There was no concern over re ok’ing this status BEFORE that.

      I disagree with Disney on all the woke BS but legislators should not weaponize gubbermint for their personal benefit.

      DeSanctimonius and the Floreedah GOP is doing EXACTLY what select Dems are doing at the state level (think NY and GA) and the DOJ and FBI, using their power to target and go after those it disagrees with.

      This is the epitome of corrupt gubbermint and arrogance of politicians and VERY dangerous to democracy. I would bet the majority of Floridians would disagree with it if they were educated on the facts.

      DeSanctimoniys is no different than Newsom or CA Dems. Exactly the same, only opposite parties.

      Why would any national company that has to balance cultural issues among employees in many states want to come and do business in Floreedah knowing if you upset someone in Tallahassee, they’ll go after your business?

      This is what the AG did in NY and now we have the GOP doing the same in Floreedah.

      There is no difference whatsoever. Absolutely NONE!

      This is why I believe DeSanctimonius is NOT fit for president. He would weaponize gubbermint agencies just like Dems to target those he does not like, especially DOJ and FBI.

      The legislation was introduced on Monday. It passed the state House of Representatives on Thursday on a vote of 82-31, with 81 Republicans and one Democrat voting “yes.” All 31 “no” votes came from Democrats. The state Senate approved the bill on Friday on a party-line vote, with 26 Republicans in favor and nine Democrats opposed. It now goes to DeSantis for his signature.

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/florida-senate-approves-bill-give-desantis-control-disney/story?id=97039504

    596. jason says:

      Breaking news.

      Because of inflation, Hunter is now charging 15% for the Big Guy.

    597. jason says:

      I fully support the Golden Calf on both of these issues.

      Sounds like the legislature does too.

      And the citizens.

      Tgca Clown is on the wrong side of history.

    598. Tgca says:

      603

      Jester Jadon thinks DEPORTING Cubans to NYC is going to be popular among Cuban Americans in Floreedah. REALLY?

      You evidently have no clue of Latinos in Floreedah.

      You do realize there is a whole network of groups in Miami-Dade and Broward that help those escaping Cuba settle and start a new life here, 11,000 in the last year. That’s nearly 3% of Miami’s population seeking refuge in ONE YEAR ALONE

      I know because I donate clothing and house supplies to them. These groups ask for household items and clothing to help people who come here with nothing but the clothes on their backs to try to settle into a home environment.

      Same with Haitians. There is networking to help those escaping settle in south Floreedah

    599. jason says:

      Tgca knows the Disney situation has NOTHING to do with opinions or disagreements or even campaign donations.

      Disney stated that is would ACTIVELY use its economic power to interfere with state laws, which goes far beyond voicing opinions.

    600. jason says:

      Jester Jadon thinks DEPORTING Cubans to NYC”

      Let me know when that happens.

      Again, will send me a poll showing a majority of FL citizens against this law.

      DId all the Hispanic Rs vote against it?

    601. jason says:

      The bill, HB 9B, passed 26-9 in the GOP-controlled state Senate while the Republican-controlled House approved the plan Thursday in a 82-31 vote. The bill now heads to DeSantis’ desk for signing.”

      Are you sure the Disney bill is unpopular?

    602. Tgca says:

      614

      I’m sure that’s what over 60% of non-Hispanics thought when they supported Prop 187 in CA in the mid 90s when Republicans were still competitive in CA elections.

      I lived there in the 90s. I saw it change from a moderate center left state to a radical leftist state, the reason I left.

      For years the CA Dem congressional advantage was from 0 to 7 seats on 54 to 55 total seats. Now the Dems generally have on average a 30 seat advantage.

      That did not happen by itself. It’s because the GOP alienated the Latino vote.

      I suspect DEPORTING Latinos from Floreedah will have the same effect in Floreedah over time too with 27% of the state now Latino.

      CA had around 26% Hispanic population in 1990 which is what Floreedah has today too.

    603. jason says:

      I think these are the types of initiatives that will help DeSantis in both the primaries and the GE.

    604. Tgca says:

      Floreedah’s Latino population has grown each recent decade:

      1990___12%
      2000___17%
      2010___22%
      2020___26%
      2030___30% (projected)

      Very similar to the Latino growth in CA:

      1990___26%
      2000___32%
      2010___37%
      2020___40% (projected)
      2030___42%

      The GOP risks it’s hold on Floreedah by targeting Latinos for DEPORTATION to other states.

    605. jason says:

      I have reservations about the Golden Calf’s ability to secure the coalition he needs to win a GE, but neither the immigration and the Disney issue are one of them.

    606. Tgca says:

      622

      Projected for 2030 not 2020 for CA.

    607. jason says:

      Yep, and as it turns out most legal Latino voters are not ok with open borders.

    608. Tgca says:

      621

      Primaries, yes, because it’s right wing base.

      GE, I doubt it.

    609. jason says:

      The GOP risks it’s hold on Floreedah by targeting Latinos for DEPORTATION to other states.”

      I doubt it.

      No one is targeting Latinos.

      The target is illegal immigrants.

    610. jason says:

      I want to see a poll on how many legal Latinos in FL are actually against this policy.

      I bet the majority approve of it.

    611. jason says:

      The reason I approve of deporting illegals to other states is that it is too easy for these states to advocate for open borders without paying any of the costs.

    612. Tgca says:

      625

      Agreed.

      But theres a difference between being against open borders and bussing Latinos out of state. The vast majority of illegals to Floreedah are Latinos.

      You think FL Cuban Americans are going to be fine with 11,000 Cubans be bussed to NYC or DC, given the latest example of illegal Cubans to reach US waters?

      It is inevitable an event will occur, probably like an accident or demonstration that could put illegals at risk during transportation.

      That will not be taken lightly by the public.

      This is a DANGEROUS precedent and bad optics for the GOP. DeSanctimonius looks more like Pat Buchanan than Ronald Reagan with this plan.

      Prop 187 was ENORMOUSLY popular with the GOP in CA. How did that work out?

    613. Tgca says:

      629

      I totally agree on the hypocrisy of those states but this is not the way to go about trying to resolve it.

      Would you be ok if NYC released its prison population with bus tickets and cash to FL? Castro did that in the early 80s.

      Tit for tat can be played in this game with horrific consequences.

      It’s wrong and immature.

    614. jason says:

      Ok so you admit it is a popular law among Floridians.

      I agree.

      I will worry about it becoming unpopular when Florida becomes California.

    615. jason says:

      DeSanctimonius looks more like Pat Buchanan than Ronald Reagan with this plan”

      LOL

      You hate Ronald Reagan, and your silly isolationist views are exactly the same as Pat Buchanan’s.

      You really are a clown.

    616. Tgca says:

      628

      You know there is no such polling on this.

      Take a poll in Miami-Dade among Latinos and ask them if the 11,000 Cubans that came to Floreedah illegally in 2022 should be rounded up and DEPORTED to NYC.

      Watch what answer you will get. It won’t be what you think.

    617. jason says:

      BS question.

      You oppose the law, I support it.

      I say the majority of Floridians will support it.

      Of course there will be polling on it.

    618. jason says:

      ask them if the 11,000 Cubans that came to Floreedah illegally in 2022 should be rounded up and DEPORTED to NYC.”

      Zzzzz…. tell me when that actually happens.

    619. Tgca says:

      633

      I don’t hate Reagan. I admired him greatly in my yoot and was one of the very few in my generation that defended him.

      I just don’t believe ANY politician should be put on a pedestal, whether it’s Reagan by the conservatives or JFK by the lefties.

      I’ve criticized Trump as well when warranted.

      Trump was obnoxious and said STOOPID things at times deemed racist but his policies were not racist.

      DeSanctimonius is signing legislation that will be deemed racist because it vastly targets people of color.

      DEPORTING Latinos from a state with nearly 30% Latino population is not going to be popular with American Latinos just as DEPORTING DACA is not popular with Latinos, by 88% margin.

      Once they’re here and have federal rights to be here, that changes the ball game and having a fat white guy like DeSanctimonius DEPORT them out if his state leaves the impression it is RACIST.

    620. Tgca says:

      636

      That’s the conundrum though.

      If he signs the FL legislation, do you approve of him DEPORTING the 11,000 illegal Cubans that came to Floreedah in 2022 or do you think only Haitians, Mexicans, and Central Americans, who make up most of the illegals to FL should be DEPORTED from the state?

      Do you think courts will allow Cubans to stay while others are DEPORTED?

      If that happens, the DOJ will need to step in and I hope they do.

      This bill, like the Disney bill, is ALL about politics and not in the best interest of Floridians by weaponizing laws against certain groups.

    621. jason says:

      do you think only Haitians, Mexicans, and Central Americans, who make up most of the illegals to FL”

      LOL

      I thought there were only Cubans, because that is all you talk about.

      Let’s see who actually gets deported.

      I fully support this, and so does the legislature and from you parsing and dodging, the FL citizens do too. Probably the Cubans do too.

    622. jason says:

      “DEPORTING DACA is not popular with Latinos, by 88% margin.”

      It’s not popular with just about everyone, including me.

    623. jason says:

      Putin toadies hardest hit.

      “The Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine’s Defence Ministry believes that Russia is not ready for the second wave of mobilisation and will postpone it.

      Source: Vadym Skibitskyi, representative of the military intelligence of Ukraine, during an interview with The Wall Street Journal, as referenced by the press service of the Main Intelligence Directorate

      Quote from Skibitskyi: “They are preparing for the second wave of mobilisation, but we believe that they will postpone it because they have not overcome all the difficulties they experienced during the first wave.

      They were not ready for such a large-scale mobilisation then, and they are not ready now.”

    624. jason says:

      Once they’re here and have federal rights to be here”

      They are still here. Just not in FL.

    625. jason says:

      Anybody watching the SB?

      What are the woke messages in the end zones instructing the viewers on race relations?

      Let me guess.

      “We are all George Floyd”? “Black lives matter”? “You are all racists”?

      Maybe Bitter won’t see any because the Eagles won’t score and he won’t watch the Chiefs score.

    626. jason says:

      WHo is going to do the halftime show?

      Al Sharpton?

    627. jason says:

      I only saw one woke thing the whole Puppy Bowl, I watched most of it.

      It was a dog with what looked like a rainbow collar. That was it.

      The NFL could learn something from that.

    628. jason says:

      I find it hard to believe that they cannot retrieve the wreckage of these shot down objects and determine what they are.

      Let’s get real.

    629. Paul says:

      My son is in an aerospace club at the university. He’s not allowed to talk about their super secret project that they are working on. I keep thinking one of these objects could be their super secret little science project. 🙂

    630. Paul says:

      How many student science projects has Biden disintegrated this week?

    631. jason says:

      Paul is the father of the UFOs?

      Damm, and we thought he was a mentally ill moron.

    632. Tgca says:

      639

      My whole point about Cubans was because once the FL MINORITY DEPORTATION BUREAU starts operating, it will have to deport illegal minorities out of state. If they refuse to DEPORT Cubans, but DEPORT all others, they’ll have the courts and DOJ all over them, as they should, and they will lose.

      If they DEPORT Cubans to keep face, the GOP can say good-bye to Cuban support. Under no circumstances will the FL Cuban community accept illegal Cubans being used as props and DEPORTED to NYC or other Dem states.

      So either way, the GOP is in a pickle with this unnecessary and STOOPID legislation.

      The FL GOP will have problems with the growing Latino population in FL just like CA did with Prop 187 which saw CA become basically a one-party non-competitive state at nearly all levels.

    633. Cash Cow TM says:

      Soupy Bowl Update

      Pregame things included a fly by four armed forces jets all piloted by women.

      They only flew by once, as they had to go on
      China balloon patrol.
      **************************
      Next year, I am told the 4 jets will all be piloted by transgender American Indians.

    634. Tgca says:

      642

      That’s like saying AA can still go to school, they just can’t go to our white schools.

      It’s an optic thing to round up Latinos and DEPORT them to another state.

      You should know better!

      I’m Latino and HATE what’s going on at the border and think we should close it and go through the right channels.

      But rounding people up already here and bussing them out of your neighborhood like cattle is not good policy or optics.

    635. Cash Cow TM says:

      Game score

      Iggles score TD.
      Chiefs score TD.
      Chiefs miss field goal.
      Iggles score TD.
      Chiefs score TD.
      Iggles score TD.

      One of the Chiefs TDs was scored by defense scoop up QB fumble and running 35-40 yds to end zone.
      Iggles currently lead 21-14 and
      have possession.
      ____________________________________________
      Oh, and Mahommes got injured ankle on Chiefs last possession.

    636. Cash Cow TM says:

      Iggles on Chiefs 19-yard line.

      4 second left in half.

      FT attempt coming….

    637. Cash Cow TM says:

      Walt’s wife is judging and scoring the Soupy Bowl commercials.

    638. Tgca says:

      I’m not watching the Super Bowl but I hope the Chiefs win because Philly is a chithole city that sucks with high crime rates and despicable low life people.

      Let me know who has the most Home Runs at Half Time please.

    639. Tgca says:

      Told you Bishes!

      GOP politicians will turn on DeSanctimonius. Expect more of this.

      I don’t care for Sununu but he is right. GOP trying to be gubbermint authoritarians like Dems targeting woke businesses with legislation for their cultural beliefs is a losing proposition for democracy.

      You can debate them and challenge them and try to influence people away from them, but going after them with laws is authoritarian.

      So if DeSanctimonius were to become POTUS would he sic the gubbermint on the MSM because he does not like their criticism of him?

      https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/02/12/sununu-republicans-should-not-be-big-government-authoritarians-on-cultural-issues/

    640. Tgca says:

      U.S. Military Shoots Down Unidentified Flying Object over Lake Huron, Fourth Shoot-Down in Eight Days

      This is getting ridiculous now. 1st, the US military said it was too risky to shoot objects out of the sky and now they’re shooting everything down.

      They look inept!

      I saw a dead pigeon this AM. I’m sure the military shot it down.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/02/12/u-s-military-shoots-down-unidentified-flying-object-over-lake-huron-fourth-shoot-down-eight-days/

    641. Tgca says:

      This looks like the good part of Philly.

      Philadelphia Eagles Fans Flip Car Before Super Bowl Even Starts

      If the US ever finds itself in the position as in the movie Fail Safe, can we trade NYC for Philly?

      Geez! What lowlife scum make up Philly.

      Too bad the car did not flip back and pin them underneath until their last breath. No car should be violated like that.

      https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2023/02/12/watch-philadelphia-eagles-fans-flip-car-before-super-bowl-even-starts/

    642. jason says:

      It’s an optic thing to round up Latinos and DEPORT them to another state.”

      Zzzzz…. they won’t be rounded up or deported.

      Won’t be necessary. How about just capturing the ones entering and transferring them.

    643. jason says:

      Nothing “authoritarian” about the Golden Calf.

      Nada. Zero. Zilch.

      Complete garbage.

      Both of these laws are sensible, needed, and should be very popular with the voters. Of all colors and races.

    644. jason says:

      But I must admit Tgca has the MSM and Democratic talking points on the Golden Calf just as he has all of Putin’s and the Russian State media talking points.

      The fact he is now aligned with the opinions of Sununu just like he is aligned with the opinions of Tucker Carlson are all you need to know.

      MSM toady on the Golden Calf and Putin toady on Ukraine.

      Sad for the clown.

    645. Tgca says:

      661

      So then you agree the 11,000 Cubans that were apprehended coming into the US illegally the last year should have been bussed to NYC and other Dem states by the FL GOP gubbermint.

      Good to know.

      You know nothing about Floreedah politics evidently.

      You’re making the same arguments the CA GOP did in 1994 because it was WILDLY popular with the base. How did that work out?

      Ironically, I spoke with a White non-Latino Republican male friend in Floreedah today. He disagrees with you and thinks it looks horrible and wishes DeSanctimonius and the GOP did not focus on these things so much.

    646. Tgca says:

      662

      Tucker Carlson is more aligned with conservatives than you’ll ever be.

      You’re more aligned with Hollywood when it comes to Zelenskyy, Illegal immigration, ABORTION, China, etc.

      People in glass houses should not throw stones.

    647. jason says:

      You know nothing about Floreedah politics evidently”

      I know the Golden Calf is extremely popular and so are the laws he signs with support of the state legislature.

    648. jason says:

      Tucker Carlson is more aligned with conservatives than you’ll ever be.”

      As opposed to an anti-capitalist Occupy Wall Street Ronald Reagan hater and rent control supporter like you?

    649. jason says:

      So much for “Russian Nationalism” part II.

      “Pregnant Russian women flying to Argentina for baby’s citizenship

      More than 5,000 pregnant Russian women have entered Argentina in recent months, including 33 on a single flight on Thursday, officials say.

      The latest arrivals were all in the final weeks of pregnancy, according to the national migration agency.

      It is believed the women want to make sure their babies are born in Argentina to obtain Argentinian citizenship.

      The number of arrivals has increased recently, which local media suggests is a result of the war in Ukraine.”

    650. jason says:

      I guess the 500,000 military age men who have fled Russia are not enamored with “Russian Nationalism” either.

    651. jason says:

      SB national anthem singer getting great reviews on the Internet.

      And my wife who watched the halftime show said it was the best in years, well done, not weird, and not woke.

      Wonders never cease.

      But I prefer staying here and calling Tgca clown on his insane rants against the Golden Calf.

    652. Tgca says:

      666

      As usual, more lies when you can’t win an argument.

      I NEVER supported rent control, especially since I was a landlord myself for years. What I support is reasonable laws to protect tenants being evicted on short notice (30 days) simply due to greedy landlords without the gubbermint stepping in with any public assistance.

      Unlike you, I do not have a F*CK the POOR attitude. I remember where I came from and try to give back. Evidently, you don’t after getting handouts from Americans for years.

      Floreedah has a growing homeless problem. I see it daily driving around. Worst than I’ve ever seen it before. The politicians in Floreedah have done NOTHING substantial to help people who live week to week but have watched their rents increase 30% and forced to move to unsafe neighborhoods because greedy landlords want to kick them out ASAP to rent to upperclass liberals from NYC who moved to Floreedah to work remotely. MORE YOU HAVE IN COMMON WOTH THE LEFT.

      I always admired Reagan but I don’t treat him like a God like you do. I accept he was a very good president but also had some blunders, like most presidents. I’m consistent, you’re not.

      You’re just pissed because I point out you have the same positions on key issues that Hollywood has a matter of truth.

    653. Phil says:

      I guess the animals that live in Philly will burn the city down tonight and loot the city out of anger….which is no doubt exactly what they’d do if the Eagles had won.

    654. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca is an alleged conservative who trashes Reagan, defends illegal aliens, and has Occupy Wall Street talking points.

    655. Tina says:

      The eagles could not stop the rush and their special teams failed.

      A sea change for them not playing against a 4th string qb

      Let the city burn.

    656. Tina says:

      Every team that beat the niners this season lost the next week.

    657. Bitterlaw says:

      The last game the 49ers played was a 31-7 loss.

    658. Tina says:

      Correct, every team that beat the niners lost the next week,

      Weird whatever, fwiw.

      That costly fumble by Justin, hurts.

    659. Tina says:

      Big thought was the collapse of the eagles defense.

      They let the chiefs score on every 2nd half possession.

      They were gashed.

    660. Bitterlaw says:

      Turnovers kill. The Eagles offense out scored the Chiefs offense. But defensive points count just as much. Sucks but true. Jalen Hurts is going to get a huge deal. He earned it. Even so, the Eagles are in good shape for next season. The other NFC playoff teams have problems going forward. Tampa? No QB. Dallas? Prescott is a turnover machine. Giants? Jones is suspect at QB. 49ers? No QB or Backup QB. Vikings? Always build good record in weak NFC North then choke. Seattle? More QB issues.

      Eagles coach was seen on camera during National Anthem with tears running down face. Good man and coach.

      That is the second and end of my NFL posts for 2022-23 season.

    661. jason says:

      Just checked my bet balance and it is at zero.

      So the Eagles lost, I should know better than to bet them.

      But I came close to making a bundle, my parlay would have worked out had the Eagles won.

    662. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzzzz

    663. Bitterlaw says:

      Too bad you did not bet on the Eagles all season. 16-4 season including playoff blowout wins and 3 point loss in Super Bowl.

      Broncos? Washed up QB hated in locker room and gave away most draft picks.

      Ma can F off.

    664. Tgca says:

      672

      So PityLaw, the wokester who NEVER misses an opportunity to support woke NFL or NBA sportsman defile law enforcement, including his own minimizing those 1st responding law enforcement who died in 9/11, and adores Philly, the scummiest and most crime-ridden large city in America despite his belief there are good parts, has the gall to question someone else’s conservative principles.

      Comical. Only at HHR.

    665. Tgca says:

      671

      Of course Phil!

      Don’t you know most Eagle fans are also members of or support Antifa and BLM?

      These scumbags can’t help but do what comes natural to them, destroy the property of others for no reason and attack law enforcement.

    666. Tgca says:

      Ha! Ha!

      In ranking worst football fans, Eagles ranking 1st of course, this is a polite description from nearly a dozen years ago explaining what trashy, ignorant, losers, POS, Eagles fans are and why it’s no surprise Philly is the most crime-ridden vile big city in the US.

      Do you really expect scum from a city like Philly to behave like civil human beings when they’re more comfortable burning down the city and assaulting law enforcement, all while being cheered on?

      Philadelphia is a blue-collar place that breeds a strong sense of identity. Their fans wear that identity on their sleeves and manifest it as emotional and mean to the extreme.

      https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1028680-ranking-the-10-meanest-fan-bases-in-the-nfl

    667. Bitterlaw says:

      Snowballs at Santa? From the 1960’s. Zzzzzzzz.

    668. Bitterlaw says:

      The Chiefs scored by passing, not running. 40-Whiners fan still complains about her team losing 31-7. Funny thing about that game is that none of San Fran QBs was on their alleged top defense that was exposed.

    669. Tina says:

      158 yards given up rushing.

      Look at the chief’s drive to start the second half (mostly rushing).

      Mahomes passing yardage was not that high.

      Eagles should have won.

    670. Gordon Allen says:

      I had no dog in the fight, but that late holding call on the Eagles was marginal, especially at that point in the game.
      If that was a penalty every DB in the NFL would be called for a penalty on virtually every play. With the holding, bumping and elbow contact allowed NFL DB’s i’d have been an All American DB in the 60’s, where past the line of scrimmage 3 yards if you touched the receiver it was called.
      Man, they have to be consistent.

    671. Bitterlaw says:

      Did you watch the game or just follow it on Twitter? 30+ of the rushing yards were by Mahomes on one run. The Eagles should have won the game but they lost because their pass rush did not get to Mahomes. The Chiefs defense was worse and gave up 35 points but they won because of the fumble recovery for a TD.

      If you did watch, Tgca will call you woke.

    672. jason says:

      I used to be critical of a lot of the officiating when I followed pro football.

      So I checked out the play Neville Allen mentioned this morning.

      I have to agree, Mickey Mouse call at that point of the game, basically deciding it. That type of “hold” happens somewhere on every play and it in no way impeded the receiver from catching the ball, overthrown anyway.

      Without that call probably the Chiefs would have scored a FG and the Eagles would have had time to tie or win.

      I didn’t watch the rest of the game, coaches like to say hey many other plays could have decided the game, so there is that.

      But yeah, horrible call. If the Broncos had lost a SB on that call I would be have been pissed.

    673. jason says:

      Too bad you did not bet on the Eagles all season. 16-4 season including playoff blowout wins and 3 point loss in Super Bowl.”

      Sniff…you could have told me.

      I figure you owe me about $10k.

      I would have cashed in about $650 had the Eagles just won by 2. That hurts, pun intended.

    674. jason says:

      Unlike you, I do not have a F*CK the POOR attitude. I remember where I came from and try to give back. Evidently, you don’t after getting handouts from Americans for years.”

      Bitter giving out points for breakfast….

    675. JeffP says:

      It is amazing that Biden is hiding after this past weekends flying objects. The original narrative has been it happened during Trumps admin so no big deal. So Biden is lying again. Then this weekend w have 3 more shoot downs and no press conference.

    676. Tgca says:

      WaPo calls fat skank Rihanna p*ssy grabbing sniffing performance masterclass.

      What is wrong with these people?

      She acts like a classless ho on stage in front of millions of children watching and this is called masterclass? Perhaps someone should do that in front of her child.

      I guess the WaPo thinks that’s masterclass second only to adult trannies dry humping little boys on stage.

      These people have ABSOLUTELY no values. NONE!

      Everything is for attention. She should have been booed off stage.

      She’s lucky she’s not in Floreedah or DeSanctimonius would have called an emergency session of the Legislature to have her Floreedah property confiscated and her DEPORTED from the state.

    677. Tgca says:

      Eagles SHOULD’ve COULD’ve WOULD’ve won.

      Excuses! Excuses!

      Almost every sport or any event in life can be boiled down to “if only this didn’t happen THEN…”

      If only I had played the lottery and chosen tje winning number…

      They lost fair and square. Anything else is sour grapes.

      Now the Eagles fans can go burn down the good parts of Philly and assault the police while they’re cheered on.

    678. Tina says:

      The player that held admitted to holding the receiver.

      That would always be called.

      Had no impact on the game.

      A bigger impact was Just Hurts fumble that resulted in a td

      Sorry, Bl, 158 yards given up via rushing. Mahomes numbers were just a tiny amount.

      The defense had issues, I read that they hired Fangio as a 2 week assistant, heading into the sb. Not a good look.

      Not impressed with the defense ar all.

    679. jason says:

      JeffP hardest hit with this new “escalation”, the Ukrainians just refuse to let their citizens be slaughtered by the Russians.

      “In total, more than 27,000 have signed up for membership in the assault brigades of the Offensive Guard [Hvardiia Nastupu, a project of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine that aims to form new assault brigades to support the army], of which more than 15,000 were applications for admission.

    680. Tgca says:

      I’m shocked! Simply shocked!

      Over 5,000 children sexually abused by gay Catholic priests in Portugal over decades.

      I bet if Jesus was around today, he’d disband the Catholic Church.

      https://www.rt.com/news/571410-portugal-church-children-sexual-abuse/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

    681. Tgca says:

      THEVEN THEERWO THERRWO Bishes!

      THEVEN THEERWO THEERWO I Thay.

    682. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&q=kansas+city+chief+fan+destroys+tv&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjynsjg8pL9AhWgFlkFHWQCB_QQ0pQJegQIEhAB&biw=390&bih=655&dpr=3#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:a2dc701a,vid:HfdcNE8_iuA

      Do you want the links for idiot fans of other teams doing the same thing? There is a good 2016 one with a Panthers fan, too.

      Not sure why a 49ers fan would talk about Defense when they lost to the Eagles 31-7. If the Eagles suck, Tina, then the 49ers are worse. It’s not like the Eagles only won 9-7 over the Niners.

    683. Bitterlaw says:

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kJVp6JcE5jE

      Here is one with a Cowboys fan.

    684. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Immigrants are appalled by the crime and drug use in NYC, and are fleeing to Canada. Maybe Americans will wake up and realize their “progressive” cities have become unlivable:

      “Multiple Latin American asylum seekers told reporters that the alarming and blatant drug use coupled with the ongoing homeless crisis has left migrants feeling hopeless and searching for answers. In response to the complaints being levied by migrants, as well as taxpaying residents, the mayor has funded bus tickets to transport migrants across the U.S.- Canada border.

      “Those who are seeking to go somewhere else — not that we’re pushing or forcing — if they’re seeking to go somewhere else, we are helping in the re-ticketing process,” Mayor Adams said on Monday in an interview with Fox 5.

      “I wanted to live in New York because I thought it would be a better future for my daughters,” said Susy Sanchez Solzarno, 33, from Peru. “But as the days went by, I saw insecurity, many homeless people, many people who shout and are disrespectful, and many people on drugs. … I am going to Canada for the safety and future of my girls.”

      “A lot of the Americans used drugs [in New York],” said Manuel Rodon, 26, from Venezuela. “I feel like Canada will be safer. It is a much quieter country than America.””

    685. Tgca says:

      705

      This is the daily life in many cities, Dem or GOP, mostly in the seedy or poor parts. Just go to the bad part of Philly and see what you’ll find. We have it in Floreedah too

      Floreedah is littered with druggies, especially south Floreedah.

    686. Tgca says:

      Do Cowboy fans support Antifa and BLM and burn down their cities and assault law enforcement while they’re cheered on like Philly and Eagle fans?

      Hmmm…

    687. Gordon Allen says:

      Speak for yourself in (Democrat Broward County/Fort Lauderdale) TGCA. Probably Miami too.
      That doesn’t appear to be true here generally in Lee and Collier County (Republican).The northern edge of Lee County in Fort Myers is the worst, and is the least GOP area in the two counties.
      Not trying per se to be political, but more demographic. And yes Fort Myers has the largest population, although i wouldn’t classify it as a large City.

    688. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    689. Gordon Allen says:

      Tina. Beg to differ. In the NFL the DB’s ALWAYS hold/ they call it “hand fighting”!!. Generally unless it really impedes the receiver’s “progress”, or while the ball is in the air( without trying for an interception/going for the Ball) it isn’t called.
      From what I saw the DB didn’t impede the receiver at all, and no catchable ball was in the Air.And late in a SB that was tied??
      Nope, bad call( and full disclosure I don’t like the Eagles).

    690. Tgca says:

      708 Gordy

      Miami is a GOP city. It has a GOP mayor, who has presidential aspirations, who won twice with over 75% of the vote.

      Yeah! I get it! Old people like you don’t generally do illegal drugs though I expect like many big city partiers, you old people have some drug use in common like Via-Gra but I digress.

      My point is Floreedah, like many other major areas have drug problems.

      It’s not a Dem or GOP issue, it’s a people issue. Many conservatives have been addicted to drugs too, though usually not hard stuff like crack and heroin. Drugs don’t discriminate by political party.

      South Floreedah is also the drug Rehab Capitol in the US.

    691. jason says:

      Yep, Tina is wrong, that kind of “holding” is present on just about every play and not usually called, especially when it is crucial to the outcome of the game. It had no relevance to the receiver catching the ball and did not impede him in any way. I don’t really care about the Eagles (except that I bet on them) but they got screwed on that call.

    692. Tina says:

      Gordon I don’t disagree. But under the rules that is a hold. The player even admitted to the hold. There are actually several good pics of the holding.

      The eagles fell apart in the second half because their defense collapsed. They could not stop anything.

    693. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Babylon Bee provided Super Bowl news that other media outlets failed to cover:

      “Super Bowl Flyover Featuring All Female Pilots Running 20 Minutes Late”

      “Philadelphians Preemptively Burn City Down In Preparation For Winning Or Losing Super Bowl”

      “Super Bowl Ruined As Air Force Keeps Shooting Footballs Out Of The Sky”

    694. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      706. In California cities the homeless are everywhere. In nice neighborhoods, suburbs, beaches, parks. The vast majority are on narcotics; many are mentally deranged (mostly a result of drug use) and they are increasingly assaulting people. An little is being done to counter it.

    695. Tgca says:

      715

      Same in Floreedah around major cities. Tampa, Orlando, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, etc.

      Homeless has gotten worse here the last few years. Nothing is done about it at state or local levels. Shameful!

      Floreedah ranks with 3rd largest homeless population in U.S. and if you look at it per capita it’s 3rd also in larger states and #1 in GOP states too. But these stats are from 2020 so it’s probably worse now given the housing crisis in Floreedah experienced in 2021 which forced many out of their dwellings.

      Of course, some in gated communities will deny this because they haven’t ran over any sleeping homeless with their golf carts on their golf courses so as far as they’re concerned, there’s no homeless problem in Floreedah.

    696. Gordon Allen says:

      Fort Lauderdale sure is drug rehab center. I personally know of several who rehabed over there.
      Apparently you never leave the dens of Broward County.
      You absolutely NEVER see the homeless/ drug users here like in LA,SanFran,NY etc,and our crime rate is quite low.
      Probably why tourists flock here( too many by my lights) even after a huge Hurricane, and move here in droves from Blue States.
      Since you hate it here my suggestion: pack up your bags and be one of the few who leave here to go to Blue States. We’d have the benefit of being minus one more Blue voter.

    697. Tgca says:

      717

      Ha! HA!

      The guy who refuses to leave his gated community and gets his confederate magazines delivered to him accusing others of being local recluses.

      Boy! Gordy is one STOOPID azz Bish.

      He doesn’t understand the meaning of big cities.

      Of course many small communities are safer, including in blue states with some of the safest communities in the country, more so than Floreedah but that’s not we were talking about.

      We were talking about an increasing homeless problem in general grandpa. Floreedah ranking very high on the list.

      By the way, Tampa area (Hillsborough/Pinellas counties) has higher homeless rate than Broward/Dade/Palm Beach counties so spare me your hatred of southeast Floreedah metro area because you can’t stand Latinos and Blacks.

      We know you don’t like to leave your gated community full of old white David Duke supporters but it’s no reason not to get your facts correct at least.

    698. Tgca says:

      Gordy will not be happy.

      Biden forcing public housing in small town America and denying federal funding to those not complying.

      They think poor should be able to enjoy the same amenities as Gordy, minus the Confederate magazines of course.

      The Biden administration announced Jan. 19 that it will require all towns across the U.S. to submit “Equity Plans” showing how they will make it possible for low-income people to live there by providing affordable housing, transportation and other resources.

      https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/next-dems-hit-list-suburbs

    699. NYCmike says:

      “I never supported illegal immigration.”

      -I agree with jason, he has never supported illegal immigration…..he just refuses to build a wall which would help stop them, and also joins his Democratic counterparts in refusing to enforce existing law while claiming the unenforced laws are ineffective.

      Of course, when the Democrats want “newer, comprehensive” gun laws, he is against those (as am I), while insisting that current law is fine.

    700. Tgca says:

      721

      Oh stop it NYC. STOP trying to stir up chit.

      We all know Jester Jadon is for ILLEGAL immigration, ABORTION, corrupt commies, and pretty much is in lock step with Hollywood on many policies.

      That’s his prerogative.

    701. Tina says:

      Seriously, they cannot find the weather satellites?

      Disclose.tv

      @disclosetv
      JUST IN – Pentagon says “no debris” has been recovered from the 3 downed objects in Alaska, Canada, and Lake Huron — Austin

    702. JeffP says:

      So far Elon Musk isn’t beholden to the DAVOs/WEF. Who are ordering the western countries global agenda.. He is another no compromise 1st Amendment classic liberal with a backbone. I sure hope he stays that way. I will take someone like him over a compromising RINO.

    703. JeffP says:

      723. You really have to wonder sometimes WTF is going on. With Biden in office. It’s just a matter of months and China will take Taiwan. It’s all part of their empire plan just like Ukraine is to Russia.

    704. JeffP says:

      One more interesting note on Musk. He shared a private box at the SB with Rupert Murdoch. Newscorp holds a big influence on the GOP primary.

    705. NYCmike says:

      As long as Musk isn’t hanging out with the Murdoch sons and/or their wives, he should be ok.

      Once those snowflakes are around, people start melting.

    706. JeffP says:

      This is reality NOT pro Russia. When all these are in sync and promoting the same agenda I know it’s not good for the Ukrainians people or the USA.

      The globalists of the EU, US government, corporate capital (BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan & the rest), the arms industry, the mainstream media – all demanding that Hungary bend to their will & intensify the war in Ukraine.

      Viktor Orbán:
      ‘We want a ceasefire & peace talks’.

      https://twitter.com/edwardhobden/status/1620030109091778560?s=61&t=pMQJR5L_cvaHq5cOdNTVQA

    707. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe Viktor should ask Putin to stop attacking Ukraine. Immediate ceasefire.

    708. Tina says:

      Jeff what is happening ?

      Someone saw the ccp spy plane and reported it. Biden shot it down after 6 days of spying.

      Milley and Biden concluded that it was not a threat and not likely intentional.

      We are becoming a turd world country.

      But fear not more money to the grifter and more illegals. And maybe more ccp spies for the uni party.

    709. Tina says:

      Very alarming if true.

      Report: Air Force F-16 That Shot Down Object Over Lake Huron Missed on Its First Attempt – First Missile Still Hasn’t Been Located

    710. Tina says:

      Austin does not know whether it’s Monday or Tuesday or if he should wear 3 masks or 4

      Kristina Wong ????????

      @kristina_wong
      ·
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      Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin earlier today admitting the Pentagon shot down objects before “definitively” knowing what they were:
      Show this thread

    711. JeffP says:

      I sure hope the Ukrainians hold the front line because we have given or pledged $196 Billion according to Faux News. I had $146 billion but who’s counting.

      Because if not.. I don’t think Black Rock and JP Morgan Chase are going to get their money (our tax money) to rebuild the country and eastern Ukraine will be utterly destroyed because Putin doesn’t give a sh*t. That’s a huge transfer of wealth to someone either way.

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-leads-rest-of-the-world-196-billion-ukraine-war-russia

    712. JeffP says:

      Orban is the Trump of the EU. They hate him. He isn’t a friend of Russia either. Samantha Powers is on the ground in Hungry now…she is bad news. Check this out.

      https://twitter.com/thelastrefuge2/status/1624978997762203651?s=61&t=jCN5o-wztClcS4dIHdYA_Q

    713. JeffP says:

      729 Orban is popular and won re-election. He has zero sway outside of Hungry. I am afraid it is way too late and Putin is going to completely destroy eastern Ukraine. If he doesn’t succeed now he will try again I am afraid.

    714. JeffP says:

      730 The level of incompetence is staggering. Kirby seemed befuddled at the WH press briefing today. Senator Johnson said we have the B team in charge. The cast of West Wing could do better.

    715. Bitterlaw says:

      JeffP is afraid for Ukraine but opposes aid to Ukraine because it might really be a nefarious conspiracy by every group including the Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Knights Templar, Free Masons, etc.

    716. JeffP says:

      737…LOL…there is nothing secret about what is happening in plain sight.

    717. Bitterlaw says:

      I don’t dance. You support military aid to Ukraine to drive the Russian killers out or you don’t.

    718. JeffP says:

      737 Yes I oppose more aid to Ukraine because we can’t afford it. I oppose offensive weapons as it could lead to WW 3. I oppose helping any country that is corrupt and doesn’t protect 1st amendment rights. I oppose supporting a war the WEF is pushing. So what?

    719. JeffP says:

      A peace agreement was the only pathway to stop the brutality inflicted on the Ukrainian people. That is what I am for.

    720. Bitterlaw says:

      So your “fear for Ukraine” is empty words and you accept more death and destruction there. Own it.

    721. Bitterlaw says:

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JPgMyh7ei6w

      Maybe they should not use missiles. Didn’t they watch Top Gun?

    722. JeffP says:

      742 I understand a peace agreement is lollipops and song written by John Lennon now. I am hoping and praying the Ukrainians can hold their positions and force peace talks. That is the best case scenario. If the EU wants to send them tanks and jets have at it. But the US has done enough and know country is going to bomb Russia into submission and every world leader knows it.

    723. JeffP says:

      *no country is going to bomb Russia into submission…

    724. JeffP says:

      745 If true that’s good news. It will help lead to peace talks.

    725. JeffP says:

      I guess I should clarify…I meant bomb Russia on their own land.

    726. Bitterlaw says:

      Peace treaty means surrender by Ukraine at this point. Just admit that is what you want.

    727. JeffP says:

      749 It would be looked at by some as surrender…but It shouldn’t be outright…the Ukrainians have earned many things in their favor…It would depend on the terms for Ukraine…their best negotiation position so far was a couple months ago after the counter offensive made so much progress. My perspective on terms are inline with what I have heard others talk about. If the Russians are getting slaughtered in the beginning of this offensive who knows where that might lead.

      I am getting a lot more concerned about China personally.

    728. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Japan pledges $5.5 billion aid package for Ukraine. Japan’s Prime Minister Fumio Kishida pledged a $5.5 billion aid package for Ukraine on Feb. 20”