The End – Continued

    By multiple requests as a new site gets set up, here is a new thread to work on the transition.

    Posted by Dave at 10:11 pm
    Filed under: General | Comments (1,606)

    1,606 Responses to “The End – Continued”

    1. SanDiegoCitizen says:


    2. NYCmike says:

      Thanks, Dave.

      Good luck to you.

      Hopefully, your children will live most of their life under the same types of policies we grew up with, as opposed to the Biden policies you now support.


    3. Bitterlaw says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 8, 2023 at 10:39 pm
      As HHR ticks down, I thought about whether I should post a final case my site fails. However, rants take time and energy I don’t have. I could post thousands of words about the sad little clown who is so delusional that he thinks he knows anything about being a parent when he can’t even keep fish alive. He is a vile hate-filled bastard who will always own the most vicious post ever made at HHR.

      Rather than a rant, here are some observations.

      1. The past sucked for most people. There is no point yearning for a return to a golden age that never existed. That does mean abandoning the past. It means embracing what worked and rejecting what did not.

      2. People are not good or bad because of their race or ethnicity. Every group has good and bad members. Being “proud” of your race is absurd. You did not choose it. Better to focus on being somebody who is good to those around you.

      3. I don’t care if you believe in a religion or not.

      4. I support the 2d Amendment. Too many lunatics with guns kill too many people. It will never change so need to worry about it. Mourn the dead and get ready for the next slaughter.

      5. Fearing the future is a waste of time. It won’t be how you imagine it. It could better or worse. It will definitely be different. If you want the world to be the same as it was when you were 10, you are either unrealistic or boring.

      6. I hit the lottery by being born in America. I don’t hate those who want to come here illegally. However, we can’t take all of them in.

      7. No politician is fighting for you. They are fighting to get elected for their own benefit, not yours. Still, the Republican is always better than the Democrat.

      Good luck. GFY. Both can be true.

    4. Bitterlaw says:

      Should read:

      1. The past sucked for most people. There is no point yearning for a return to a golden age that never existed. That does NOT mean abandoning the past. It means embracing what worked and rejecting what did no

    5. Bitterlaw says:

      It will never change so NO need to worry about it.

    6. Phil says:

      Appreciate it Dave…..and appreciate your site over the years. I’ve enjoyed very much posting on it. Good luck to you in the future.

    7. Marv says:

      Hi Phil,

      Have you set up set up an account
      at Bitter’s new site yet?

    8. Phil says:

      No luck, Marv.

    9. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      7. I have set up an account on the new website. And can connect to the front page of the website with the picture of the urban setting. But otherwise it is a black screen. At the bottom is a box to send a comment.

      Looks like it is a good start to setting up the website, but it will probably take some time for it to get up and fully running. I admire Bitter for being willing to learn the process since it is a lot of work and frustration.

    10. Wes says:

      I find it hilarious how Mikey–who devoted over a decade of his life to helping Schumer become Senate Majority Leader–is railing against the Biden policies [Dave] now supports.

      Your rants would be more believable, Mikey, if (a) you hadn’t supported literally every Deadender in every competitive Senate race and (b) you didn’t accuse anyone who spoke out against the grifters Schumer actively worked to help get GOP Senate nominations such as Don Bolduc (R-NH) and Pat Morrissey (R-WV) of “hating the primary system.”

      Meanwhile, you literally said you were fine with it when Mike Lee and Ken Cuccinelli showed the voters two big middle fingers in their respective runs for higher office by shutting the voters out of the candidate selection process.

      You are such a liar and hypocrite.

    11. Gil says:

      Thanks Dave. This has been a great site even with all the arguing between some of the folks. Understand it is time to move on with your life. Thanks for almost 20 years of hosting this site. Hopefully Bitterlaw will be able to continue this site or another one he sets up.

    12. Tina says:

      Thanks Dave. Best of luck.

      Thanks Bl for setting up the new site. Please send some instructions. Do we need to register? I get that message when going there.

    13. Tina says:

      Here is what I get? Do I need to create Word press account?

    14. DW says:

      Ok, so I tried creating a wordpress account. It was abundently confusing, but I got the account created, but it kept insisting that I was trying to setup my own new blog. I finally got past all that, but now my inbox is getting spammed by them trying to urge me to get started on my blog. Then I tried accessing Bitter’s new page again, but now BECAUSE I have an account it won’t let me see his page, saying that I needed to get him to give me access, but the link took me to a meaningless help page.

    15. jason says:

      Patience, we now have a new thread and more time.

      Everyone should relax and have some bacon.

    16. Bitterlaw says:

      Dave and I have degrees from Villanova University. His is for engineering. Mine is for law. It is clear that one is useful when designing web sites and one is not.

    17. Cash Cow TM says:

      Dave Wissing,

      You deserve a very big THANK YOU for starting, posting and running the HHR blog site for lo these many years. By every account, your efforts were successful.

      I also want to say I wish you much success and happiness in your endeavors going forward.

      Cow (and Walt) appreciate all you have done to make this site a good one that many people could not resist coming back to daily.

      Polls, analysis of polls, political observations, and even personal sharings that posters offered up about their personal life and difficulties they were facing (which humanized HHR) increased our knowledge and understanding of the lay of the land politically.

      There were times when I came to HHR where I was more informed and educated by coming here, times I was frustrated, times I was entertained, times that a quick-witted poster said something that was very funny, and times when people (and Cows) posted their literary and poetic offerings.

      Although it was not your fault, Dave,–in the last several years there were several posters who became quite rude and overbearing in what (and how) they posted in trying to drive their own agenda and views and rudely chastised and viewpoint that was contrary to their own. That has sadly driven some away and reduced the number of thoughtful posts to share with others.

      Yes, we on prior occasions devolve into back and forth on various subjects including abortion, who were the best and worst presidents, the Civil War (or ‘War Between the States’ as some of us like to call it), Obamcare proposals, gun control, etc. The discussions then were spirited–but seldom mean-spirited, as some appear to be today. It seems that in the last couple years, HHR mirrored society and became (to some) a place to engage in attacks of personal destruction where some attacked others’ professions, food choices, beliefs and positions on issues.

      Some posters even worked overtime to interpret, twist and reword other posters statements to fit their own narrative and views and used these interpretations and leaps to paint a false and distorted picture of other posters and further advance their own agenda of personal destruction toward that other poster.

      Unfortunately, the ills we are seeing of society have seeped into the HHR blog site.

      Lots more anger. Lots more vilification of those with who someone disagreed.

      That was sad.
      Cow wanted more posters posting more beefy stories–absent a helping of bovine poop.

      That is all for now!

    18. Tina says:

      Morning consult

      MAY 7:
      • Trump — 60% (+41)
      • DeSantis — 19%

    19. Wes says:

      Unlike the incompetent Rick Scott, Steve Daines has already attracted top-tier recruits into two upcoming Senate races necessary to flip the Senate:

      In contrast, in the entirety of the 2022 cycle, Rick Scott recruited exactly zero top-tier Republicans into races for Dem-held Senate seats. Scott’s incompetence at candidate recruitment was ultimately a factor in last year’s disappointing results in the Senate.

    20. jan says:

      Found the new site and posted generic comments on it just to see if it works …..and it does. Nice job, Bitter.

    21. Marv says:

      Hi Jan,

      I posted a couple of comments over there yesterday. Did you see them? I just checked the site again, but I didn’t see your comments.

    22. Bitterlaw says:

      I have seen comments so it is working to some degree. Still trying to resolve issues.

    23. Paul says:

      Let’s just agree to whip the Russkie’s butt in Ukraine.

    24. Tina says:

      Bitter, my comments are waiting moderation.

      I cannot be moderated. Lol.

      I am in though, with slightly different name.

    25. Marv says:


      I only see your posts and mine at HHR-Phoenix, I didn’t see Jan’s.
      Did you see my last post over there?

    26. Marv says:

      Hey Tina,

      Aloha. Mrs Marv and I finally made it back to HI.
      Headed to Mai Tai Bar @ Royal Hawaiian soon.

    27. Marv says:


      What is your HHR-Phoenix name?

    28. Tina says:

      Bl, my comments disappeared. I retyped one and it said awaiting moderation.

      I saw your and Marvs post.

      Thanks, can you un moderate me?

    29. Tina says:

      Hi Marv, Tinahhr.

    30. DW says:

      I still just see a city skyline, the name, and that’s it. No area to post comments.

    31. Marv says:

      Hey Tina


    32. jason says:

      I will wait until the new site is running well before I engage in, how did Cow put it, “attacks of personal destruction”.

    33. Marv says:


      Disregard 31.

      It was supposed to be a pineapple emoji.

    34. jason says:

      What is the web address?

    35. DW says:

      okay, I sort of got it to work:

      May 9, 2023 at 2:51 pm
      Your comment is awaiting moderation.

      It works! It works!


    36. Bitterlaw says:

      I appreciate the posts to the new site. One problem I need to fix is that every time you post I get an e-mail requiring me to approve the post. Definitely have to solve that issue.

    37. Robbie says:

      I’ve been away for several days. Is there a new site? If so, can someone post the link?

    38. jan says:

      Marv, I don’t see any comments but my own ——> strange. I was initially “in moderation,” then that disappeared. I guess it’s working sporadically and individually.

    39. Pitchaboy says:

      At this rate, Trump would have violated several laws before the primary season starts. Maybe he gets thrown in jail and disenfranchised. Time he got the hell out.

    40. Jan says:

      Above is the site I was using, that didn’t have marv’s or Tina’s posts.

    41. Paul says:

      Pitchaboy: No crimes in today’s verdict. Just civil damages.

    42. Tina says:

      Rinos go soft on e verify.

      What a disaster.

    43. Paul says:

      No rape since Carol couldn’t tell for sure whether it was his penis or his fingers.

    44. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      May 9, 2023 at 3:32 pm
      At this rate, Trump would have violated several laws before the primary season starts. Maybe he gets thrown in jail and disenfranchised. Time he got the hell out.

      – It’s unlikely he’ll face any trials, whether in NYC or federally, before primary day or election day 2024. And even if he was to be convicted before the primaries or the general, he’ll appeal and his voters will stay with him.

      Trump could murder someone, be convicted, and be sitting in the electric chair and his core supporters (that includes FoxNews) would still be with him. The attachment to him is now something bordering on the spiritual.

      Trump will, however, likely be indicted in at least three jurisdictions by the time the primaries roll around. If the party voters, knowing that, still vote for him to be the nominee, then two things will be true. The party will have completely and totally lost its way and Trump will be an albatross on the backs of every Republican outside of the reddest districts.

    45. Robbie says:

      Tonight on FoxNews: Ackshully sexual assault is a good thing.

    46. Marv says:

      Hi Jan,

      Try logging on here. There is a way to login by going to the little icons, etc at the bottom right of the site.

    47. Gordon Allen says:

      Tina: Not in Florida, where DeSantis just signed a bill mandating E verify.
      Florida is literally ” right” on every issue.
      I don’t know about the jury verdict against Trump,other than to say if being nauseating was a crime he’d be guilty.
      The clips shown of his deposition in the case were cringeworthy.
      There is NO way he can continue to be the face of the Republican Party,or we face extinction
      I don’t think he can win in 2024 if the Democrats nominated a reptile.

    48. Wes says:

      Back when the tape of Trump’s bragging about sexually assaulting women came out, Jason said Trump 100% categorically, absolutely, unequivocally in no way would ever do that because no allegations has come forward.

      Well, now one has, and Trump must pay the woman $5 million. How will Jason move the goalposts to defend Trump now?

      I’m guessing his excuse will be that Trump has no chance of receiving a fair and impartial trial.

    49. Paul says:

      He only used his finger so it’s all cool.

    50. Marv says:


      My new handle @ HHR-Phoenix is marvhhr.

    51. Bitterlaw says:

      I only heard excepts from his deposition. It was not good. That does not mean he did what he is accused of BUT a jury said he did. I do not understand him now claiming he was not allowed to testify. The judge apparently allowed him additional time to decide if he was going to testify. He answered questions in his deposition. Maybe his lawyer told him if he takes the stand the jury award will go up.

    52. Pitchaboy says:

      Trump and Clinton, when it comes to women, are cut from the same cloth. Clinton got away with it. Trump won’t.

    53. Jan says:

      Pitch, the difference between Clinton and Trump was that Clinton continued his affairs when he became president. Trump’s affairs were logged in years before he took office – the latest conviction was made by a woman, in vague terms, about something she said happened 30 years ago.

    54. Marv says:

      Hey Wes,

      Come on over to Bitter’s new site. I have liked your posts and have always considered you a Hedgehog friend.

    55. Phil says:

      Well, I found the skyline picture but that’s the extent of how far I got. Looks like the new site will leave without me. Have no idea how to get on.

    56. Gordon Allen says:

      Jan,a difference also is no court in Arkansas ever found Clinton guilty.
      THAT’S Trumps defense?
      Once a scum always a scum.
      More importantly politically, that’s going to be the judgement of the American people.
      It’s suicide to nominate him,and narcissistic in the extreme for him to continue.
      I remember being accused of being a Trump stooge here,because I did support many policies,and felt he was unjustly accused in the Russian collusion myth.
      I turned against him a year and a half ago after several interviews where it was clear he cared absolutely nothing about anything other than his grievances and retribution.
      He’s a cancer.

    57. Jan says:

      The $5 million payment is going to be appealed.

      Steve Cortes has today joined the elect DeSantis camp.

      Presidential campaigns are certainly roads full of switchbacks!

    58. Marv says:

      Hi Phil,

      Go here and click on the little icon are in the lower right corner below the skyline picture. Create an account there and login.

      Tina, DW, Jan, and I did it already.

    59. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – I have trouble getting in and it’s my site. I will get it fixed.

    60. Jan says:

      Phil if you found the skyline picture all you have to do is tap at the bottom and sign up with your email and a password. Don’t give up Phil!

    61. Tgca says:

      Well, I see HHR has another Good-bye post. Will it really be the last or will it be like those entertainers who claim it’s their last tour only to announce another last tour a year or two later?

      I periodically check in but assume at some point it will close and never to hear from HHR critters again.

      It’s hard to break up after nearly 20 years together. *sniffles*

    62. Phil says:

      So am I supposed to be getting an awaiting moderation?

    63. Tina says:

      Clinton-Appointed Judge Lewis Kaplan (Who Officiated The Wedding Of Carroll’s Co-Counsel) Excluded Key Evidence From The Trial—Namely The Funding Of The Case By Reid Hoffman

      Ms. Carroll’s Story Is Suspiciously Similar To A 2012 Episode Of “Law And Order SVU

    64. Jan says:

      Gordon Allen,

      I have always seen the good and the bad in Trump. Backing him in 2016 was strictly an anti-Hillary vote. Backing him in 2020 was a vote showing my support for his 4-year record as president. I’m leaning towards supporting him in 2024. But, that can easily change if someone appears on the horizon who can strongly intervene in stopping the craziness currently going on here.

    65. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – I approved your comment. I really need to solve that issue.

    66. Tina says:

      Marv/bl are my posts there. One set disappeared. Each time, the posts said they were in moderation.

      I am not logged in so I cannot check now. .

    67. Tina says:

      We now convict on battery based on a lockeroom tape.

      We are a banana republic.

      The defamation case was not proven. She alleges rape. The jury said no

      Defamation requires a high standard. It’s legally questionable since the first denial happened when he was president

      This will be overturned.

    68. Jan says:


      I read a piece about the similarity of her story with a Law and Order episode. However Carroll not being able to recall when this “rape” even occurred, followed by her incongruous comment that she thought “rape was sexy,” tends to question the authenticity of her story.

    69. Tina says:

      If she alleged rape, he denied it while president, and jury finds no rape, the defamation claim on its own falls apart.

    70. jan says:

      FYI Phil – your post on the new blog is ere.

    71. Jan says:

      McCarthy has certainly matured into a stronger, articulate House Speaker.

    72. Tina says:

      Yes McCarthy is strong. But Biden’s beotch will sabotage him.

    73. Robbie says:

      Is there no way to just buy this site from Dave and keep it running?

      I appreciate what Bitter is doing and reiterate my offer to help financially, but just transferring the “deed” of this site to him or me and keeping things the same seems the best way.

    74. Phil says:

      Dang, bitter. I hate to see you have to personally approve every post. Seems like an impractical burden on you. Surely there must be some way to put that on auto pilot.

    75. Tgca says:


      If you have to approve every post then it’s a chitty web hosting platform because that’s absurd in this day and age. There are many cheapy platforms out there with limitations. I set up a blog in like 4 hours where posters can post based on settings the administrator set. No posting issues.

    76. Phil says:


      Well, that would be the most simple solution for the users by far, but maybe there are complications preventing Dave from doing so that we don’t know about.

    77. Marv says:


      You on HHR-Phoenix yet?

    78. Tina says:

      My last post appeared without moderation. I just posted there a few minutes ago.

    79. jason says:

      Probably the most ridiculous verdict against a politician in history.

      Somebody can just say “I was raped” in a department store and get a $5 million judgment.

      Truly a banana republic.

      And of course Trump was right not to show up to give any legitimacy to this kangaroo court.

    80. jason says:

      What is the web address?

    81. jason says:

      Only in a banana republic can you be found guilty of “defamation” if you call someone you never met and alleges you raped them in a dept store dressing room a crackpot.

    82. Jan says:

      New York created the new law for Ms. Carroll, Reid Hoffman paid for the legal costs, and Ms. Carroll made her sketchy accusations of something, from sometime, that wasn’t certain to have happened. There were no witnesses to the claimed events, there was no evidence the event took place, there was nothing to indicate Ms. Carroll or Mr. Trump were even in the same place at the same time.

      However, the judge in the case permitted the presentation of possibility, then blocked President Trump from speaking about the case, and then instructed the jury to consider that Ms Carroll’s claims may have indeed taken place, at some point – although no evidence exists and no one knows when, not even Ms Carroll

    83. Tina says:

      And these cases would not happen if the Senate Rs had the balls during the lil Bushie Supreme Court to do a criminal referral against Blassie Ford for lying; having a ruthless Ag (not Barstool) indict, etc.

      We are in a banana republic if using a hearsay audio tape

    84. jason says:

      I only heard excepts from his deposition. It was not good.”

      Zzzz… what was not “good” about it?

      The fact he probably denied he had ever met this woman and the charge was ridiculous?

      This was actually worse than Blaisey Ford as far as fantasies go.

      Why the hell should he give this any legitimacy by showing up to testify?

    85. Tina says:

      Excellent. No surrender in the house.

      The corporate wing in the senate will object.

      Quote Tweet

      Jack Poso ????????
      POSOBIEC: House GOP’s New ‘E-Verify’ bill would hold corporations criminally accountable for hiring illegal aliens

    86. Tina says:

      Was he eating ice cream or napping? Choka chip?

      Chad Pergram
      McCarthy said he asked Biden “numerous times” about places where they could cut money. Said Biden didn’t offer any ideas.

    87. Gordon Allen says:

      Trump was arrogant,condescending,and insulting,and deceptive.
      Apparently you didn’t watch.
      My wife,a very conservative Republican, and previous supporter,came away loathing him.
      Some here politically have no sense at all of how people react emotionally.
      Trump is radioactive,and a certain loser and drag on the Party.

    88. Tina says:

      Brandon Straka
      BREAKING: Jury finds that E. Jean Carroll lied about being raped by Trump- then holds Trump liable for “defamation” for saying E. Jean Carroll lied about being raped by Trump.

    89. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      73. “I appreciate what Bitter is doing and reiterate my offer to help financially, but just transferring the “deed” of this site to him or me and keeping things the same seems the best way.”

      Agree with Robbie. We can all donate to the purchase of the site. Bitter would obtain the rights and control of it.

    90. Tina says:

      Too bad you twice voted against funding the wall in the house.

      Quote Tweet

      Florida’s Voice
      NEW: DeSantis touts how Florida rapidly built bridges after Hurricane Ian

      He would send people to build the wall at the southern border if Biden called

      “I’m willing to send our Florida guys down to the border and get them building the wall and they will do it very quickly”

    91. Tina says:

      Buying the site won’t happen. Bl just did all of this hard lifting.

      We have a new site now . Use it, or not.

    92. Tgca says:

      87 Gordy

      Isn’t that what lefties said about Thomas and Kavanaugh when they tried to defend themselves against lying women accusers too, conjuring up stories from years before?

      Don’t justify bad behavior in the justice system because of the way the unjustly accused respond to false and ridiculous accusations…

      …and perhaps if your wife can’t understand how a man can be angry and defensive from a ridiculous accusation of rape 20 years ago then perhaps she lacks the reasoning and common sense to vote…or be on a jury.

      From your description of your wife, she sounds like one of those suburban housewives that base their votes on mean tweeting versus intelligent reasoning and because she does not like his personality, she equates that with justifying a guilty verdict.

    93. jan says:

      Gordon Allen,

      I’m not disagreeing with your personality assessment, and understand why many are put off by his mannerisms. In real estate, for instance, property values rely on “location, location, location.” In supporting a candidate, for me, it relies mostly on “policy, policy, policy.” So far Trump has enacted better policies than most of his opponents. And, currently he has had the best verbal exchanges on what he wants to achieve if elected to another term.

    94. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Pasted on the new website. My first comment went into moderation. Assume that is normal for a 1st comment?

    95. Tina says:

      It will be fixed. Once bl fixes it. You can then freely post. I had the same issue.

    96. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – Trump’s testimony boiled down to “she is ugly and women give it up to rich guys all the time” did not play well.

      If Dave wants to transfer HHR, it won’t hurt my feelings. The new site uses the same platform as this one so I know it is fixable.

    97. Phil says:

      Regardless, bitter, really do appreciate your efforts.

    98. Tgca says:

      What they’re doing to Trump is exactly the same thing they did to Thomas and Kavanaugh.

      Glad to see some here defending that strategy by excusing it away as he’s a “mean tweeter.”

      NYC, like DC and Philly is a cesspool of radical lefties. Trump could have been sweet as pie and gotten the same verdict. It’s built into the system.

    99. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      May 9, 2023 at 5:52 pm

      Well, that would be the most simple solution for the users by far, but maybe there are complications preventing Dave from doing so that we don’t know about.

      – If nothing else, someone find out which company hosts the site and which company Dave used to design the site.

      I appreciate what Bitter’s attempting and am serious about helping him financially, but there seem to be a lot of kinks to work out.

      If there’s a way to keep this site, but under new ownership, that would be ideal. I know that may not be possible.

    100. Tgca says:

      The LAST


    101. Tgca says:



      I goofed!

    102. Tina says:

      Quote Tweet

      Sean Davis
      Blockbuster testimony from a former CIA official shows that the CIA actively solicited signatures for the letter the Biden campaign used to suppress reporting on Hunter Biden’s laptop.

    103. Phil says:

      The jury pools in Manhattan, Atlanta, and DC are such that Trump doesn’t have a chance in hell once indicted in those places and in all those districts the partisan DAs will get indictments. Anyone happen to see the foreman of the Fulton County grand jury that inexplicably went on that media tour about a month ago? LOL. The fix is in. I don’t know what makes Trump think he is going to even be a free man at the time of the GE.

    104. Tgca says:

      102 Tina

      I hate to tell you this but nothing is going to change no matter how much evidence or video is shown. DC will protect itself abd tje courts will deflect without a very strong leader.

      That is why Trump was the only chance we had of slowly undoing this colossal mess we have. A self-made billionaire who could not be bought or needed the money of the likes of those who buy and pay for all these politicians on both sides.

      It’s why Trump is and always was the BIGGEST threat. They will stop at nothing to stop him because they fear him, especially a 2nd time around. He’d learnt his lesson and slash and cut many of these corrupt agencies.

      There is NOT one GOP politician of relevance today that is not banked by someone with deep pockets that they must stay on the good side of and do their bidding for.

    105. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – I asked Dave about what you want. He did say yes or no. I hate change. I like the current HHR. Still, I will keep working on the new site. The platform is similar to this one.

    106. Phil says:

      Yeah, ideally if it was possible the easiest solution would be just to purchase the website from Dave – if it was in any way possible. May not be of course. I’d be good for $100 if it could be done. Regardless, I’ll try to continue posting whatever the format. Kudos to bitter for all he’s done.

    107. jason says:

      Jason – Trump’s testimony boiled down to “she is ugly and women give it up to rich guys all the time” did not play well.”

      It is not a question of what “plays well”.

      He has every right to treat this as the joke that it is.

    108. Tgca says:

      I will stand by Trump to the end. He has fought the good fight all along. No other politician has come close to doing that in decades.

      I will not support any GOP politician that abandons him.

      There are millions like me who will too. Down here in Floreedah, I’m seeing more and more Trump stickers and shirts all over the place but I don’t see anyone else being advertised.

      Everyone I know of here is supporting Trump for 2024 unconditionally. I hope all these efforts to disenfranchise conservative voters by trying to STOP him and interfere with federal election will awaken a sleeping giant.

      Nothing is more important than fighting the corrupt justice system because if they succeed at this, our country is lost forever…when a president can have an election stolen and then be framed, prosecuted, and imprisoned with the assistance of a corrupt justice system.

    109. jason says:

      If Dave will sell the site as is, I would be willing to contribute.

      Or I can contribute to Bitter’s site.

    110. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason told me he is willing to run the site if it is in Qu’chua.

    111. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 9, 2023 at 9:22 pm
      Robbie – I asked Dave about what you want. He did say yes or no.

      – Not sure I follow. I assume you’re saying he didn’t say yes or no, but was noncommittal.

      Is that correct?

    112. jason says:

      Can I have the web address of the new site?

      I want to go there to “destroy someone”.

    113. jason says:

      Gordon Allen says:
      May 9, 2023 at 6:29 pm

      Trump was arrogant,condescending,and insulting,and deceptive.”

      Heh, Neville Allen is now allied with Vladimir Putin and E. Jean Caroll.

      What a threesome!

      But you have to admit, they deserve each other.

    114. NYCmike says:

      #98 – EXACTLY

    115. jason says:

      I assume you’re saying he didn’t say yes or no, but was noncommittal”


      Of course, nobody ever accused Amoral Scumbag of having a brain.

    116. jason says:

      Tgca says:
      May 9, 2023 at 7:59 pm

      What they’re doing to Trump is exactly the same thing they did to Thomas and Kavanaugh.”

      Yes but some here instead of pointing out this is a travesty of justice are instead attacking Trump’s deposition.

      The GOP deserves to lose.

    117. Tgca says:

      After-School Satan Clubs Gain Popularity, Leaders Hope to Teach Tenets of Satanic Temple

      Although The Satanic Temple doesn’t worship the Devil per se but uses its Devil relationship as a metaphor for the rebellion against authority, I’m not sure having after school programs with “Satan” reference is good public relations.

    118. jason says:

      They found a doorknob on Oak Island.

      The treasure can’t be far behind.

    119. Tgca says:

      I agree on the GOP deserving to lose if they accept this crap and won’t fight.

      I think the GOP is transforming and needs to either accept its new base which is more aligned to working class and those disenfranchised by the Dems that want a leader who really fights or go back to the GWB era of Big Donors driving party direction.

    120. Bitterlaw says:

      The case against Trump was garbage and politically motivated. I have conducted thousands of depositions and taken testimony hundreds of time in court and Trump’s testimony sucked. Both can be true.

    121. jason says:

      May 9, 2023 at 9:55 pm

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      llamas rule LikeLike

    122. Tina says:

      Biden’s Beotch is preparing to sabotage.

      Quote Tweet
      Square profile picture
      ABC News
      After White House debt ceiling summit ends with no movement toward deal, Sen. McConnell declares the U.S. would “never default…and it never will.”

      Pres. Biden says he was “pleased” by McConnell’s comments. Another meeting is planned for Friday.

    123. jason says:

      and Trump’s testimony sucked.”

      Zzzzz…. that is because you wanted him to give legitimacy to this joke of a trial.

      It sounds like he didn’t do that.

      Good for him.

      If someone comes out of the blue and without evidence or witnesses or any corroboration of ANY kind makes a bogus accusation they don’t deserve anything more than ridicule.

    124. jason says:

      Hey Tina, a little honesty never hurts.

      If you want to quote McConnell, don’t cherry pick the quote.

      What he really said:

      Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell categorically declared the U.S. would “never default.”

      “It never has, and it never will,” McConnell said. “However, elections have consequences. We now have divided government.”

    125. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 9, 2023 at 9:41 pm
      I assume you’re saying he didn’t say yes or no, but was noncommittal”


      Of course, nobody ever accused Amoral Scumbag of having a brain.

      – Bitter wrote, “he did say yes or no”. Sorry, but I don’t understand that.

      I’m assuming he meant to say, “he didn’t say yes or no”.

    126. Bitterlaw says:

      Having represented hundreds of clients during testimonies, I stand by my assessment. Or you can defer to Jason.

    127. Bitterlaw says:

      Dave did NOT say yes or no.

      Does that settle the need for this discussion?

    128. Tina says:

      Way to go Faux. The demo 25-54 is really awful.

      Chief Nerd
      “Cable news ratings show that in the two weeks since the host was fired, figures for Carlson’s former spot have dropped by around 50 percent, while the network’s audience among 25- to 54-year-olds had shrunk by two thirds.”

    129. Tina says:

      It will be appealed and overturned.

      Everyone knows it.

      She did not testify to sexual battery.

      The defamation (high standard) was based on trumps response to a question of raping. What was. He supposed to say?

    130. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 9, 2023 at 10:07 pm

      Dave did NOT say yes or no.

      Does that settle the need for this discussion?”

      Everyone understood what you meant except Amoral Scumbag who decided to make an ass of himself again.

    131. jason says:

      Having represented hundreds of clients during testimonies, I stand by my assessment. Or you can defer to Jason.”


      You said “Trump’s testimony boiled down to “she is ugly and women give it up to rich guys all the time” did not play well.”

      My point is who cares how it plays.

      As usual Bitter wants to be be on the fence and pretend that somehow Trump had any obligation to take this woman seriously.

    132. jason says:

      This case should never have gotten to trial, but for partisan BS it would have been thrown out and E. Jean Carroll admonished for a frivolous suit.

    133. Bitterlaw says:

      As usual, Jason dismisses those who know more about an issue than he does. I would not tell him how to conduct his business. He is embarrassing himself by thinking he knows how to defend a deposition.

      The number one rule in a deposition is tell the truth. The number two rule is only answer the question you are asked. The number three rule is short answers are best – yes or no is a strong answer.

    134. NYCmike says:

      “Everyone understood what you meant except Amoral Scumbag who decided to make an ass of himself again.”

      -No, “everyone” didn’t understand, so Robbie asked to clarify.

    135. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 9, 2023 at 10:07 pm
      Dave did NOT say yes or no.

      Does that settle the need for this discussion?

      – Yes. Thanks for the clarification.

    136. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Robbie – I asked Dave about what you want. He did say yes or no. I hate change. I like the current HHR. Still, I will keep working on the new site. The platform is similar to this one.”

      Either way is fine with me. The new site looks good, and will block out spam posters. But losing the old board may prevent past posters from returning.

    137. jason says:

      NYCmike says:
      May 9, 2023 at 10:41 pm

      “Everyone understood what you meant except Amoral Scumbag who decided to make an ass of himself again.”

      -No, “everyone” didn’t understand, so Robbie asked to clarify”

      So NYC is as stupid as Amoral Scumbag.

      Ok, I am convinced.

    138. jason says:

      As usual, Jason dismisses those who know more about an issue than he does. I would not tell him how to conduct his business. He is embarrassing himself by thinking he knows how to defend a deposition.”

      Zzzzzz…..nice deflection, but that dog won’t hunt.

      “The case against Trump was garbage and politically motivated”

      You could have stopped there, nothing else is needed.

      The rest is just Trump bashing trash.

    139. jason says:

      Bitter knows a lot about the law, but thinks cases that are “garbage” should be given legitimacy as long as they are against Trump.

    140. Tina says:

      The judge brought in the access Hollywood tape but. Did not allow her written disclosure lying about her legal costs being paid by a Drat who went to Pedo island (third party).

    141. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 9, 2023 at 9:22 pm
      Robbie – I asked Dave about what you want. He did say yes or no.”

      Anybody with half a brain understood he meant “did not say yes or no”.

      Except Amoral Scumbag who wants to make an ass of himself and NYC who is actually stupid enough not to understand.

    142. jason says:

      The judge brought in the access Hollywood tape but. Did not allow her written disclosure lying about her legal costs being paid by a Drat who went to Pedo island”

      Tina, the problem was not that the case was garbage, it was Trump’s “deposition”.

      Had Trump given the deposition Bitter wanted, the partisan judge and jury would have seen the error of their ways and he would have been acquitted.

      And llamas would fly.

    143. jason says:

      Here is the deal.

      Trump was going to be convicted even if the 9 SCOTUS justices had convened to write his deposition.

    144. Cash Cow TM says:

      Cow tried.
      But Cow has trouble.

      No password works to get me on the new site.

      Not “Meadow Muffin” or anything.

    145. Cash Cow TM says:

      Cow types something on new site.

      But nothing happens to post it.

    146. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      146. Cow keep trying. It will work. Your initial comment will go into moderation until Bitter gets you on the board.

      I see the new board having less of a problem with spam and trolls.

    147. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The organization whose sloppy supervision of lab work & research it funded at the Wuhan lab, and questionable participation in gain of function research, may have played a role in the coronavirus epidemic, gets more U.S. government money:

      “The National Institutes of Health has provoked an outcry in Congress by renewing a $2.3 million grant wiEcoHealth Alliance to research bat coronaviruses, three years after the Trump administration terminated its contract over the COVID-19 lab leak theory.

      Under terms of the four-year grant, EcoHealth has agreed not to subcontract work to China or perform “gain of function” research, the modification of viruses to make them more potent.”

    148. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Newson has proved once again he is an idiot. His slavery reparations task force has recommended the state pay something like $800 billion in reparations to descendants of slaves, and to others blacks who suffered discrimination. Now Newsom is attempting to reign in the insanity:

      “California Gov. Gavin Newsom declined to endorse the cash payments – which could reach as high as $1.2 million for a single recipient – recommended by his reparations task force, telling Fox News Digital that dealing with the legacy of slavery “is about much more than cash payments.”

      “The Reparations Task Force’s independent findings and recommendations are a milestone in our bipartisan effort to advance justice and promote healing. This has been an important process, and we should continue to work as a nation to reconcile our original sin of slavery and understand how that history has shaped our country,” Newsom said in a statement to Fox News Digital.

      While the Democratic governor applauded the task force’s work, he declined to endorse any specific recommendations, though he pledged to continue to “advance systemic changes that ensure an inclusive and equitable future for all Californians.””

    149. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Senator Murphy of Connecticut thinks the government needs to focus on solving loneliness. Maybe we need reparations for loneliness too.

      “Murphy has been spending the last several months talking about an unusual subject for a politician: loneliness.

      “If democracy can’t deliver on the disconnection and disaffection that Americans feel, they’re going to give up on democracy,” Murphy tells Newsweek. “Some demagogue, much more effective than Donald Trump, will come along and pick up on all of this anxiety and disaffection and disconnection and channel it into a political movement that will overturn democracy.””

    150. Wes says:

      We needn’t wonder whom Mikey wants Republicans in West Virginia to nominate for Senate next year. Governor Jim Justice is up big in both the primary and the general. Should Republicans nominate Congressman Alex Mooney, Manchin vaults back into a lead.

      This of course means the following:

      1) Schumer will spend money to help Mooney win the nomination.

      2) Mikey will declare any opposition to Schumer’s chosen candidate means one opposes the primary system.

      Of course Mikey is hoping West Virginians will live up to their reputation for abject stupidity and nominate Mooney so Manchin can have a likely path to reelection. After all, if Manchin falls, then Schumer’s chances of hanging on as Senate Majority Leader drop sharply.

    151. jason says:

      Yeah, but Mikey will get another autographed picture of Schumer for his collection.


    152. jason says:

      BIDEN: “In my first two years, I reduced the debt by $1.7 trillion.”

    153. Phil says:

      I can’t imagine West Virginia Republicans not nominating Jim Justice. On the other hand, never underestimate the stupidity of WV voters.

    154. New York City says:

      “I can’t imagine West Virginia Republicans not nominating Jim Justice.”

      Justice is a RINO. Let’s nominate Mooney and re-elect Manchin!

      Schumer needs more time as Majority Leader to fulfill his real potential.

    155. jason says:


      “President Trump was found liable for defending himself from a rape that never happened”.

    156. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      May 10, 2023 at 10:08 am
      I can’t imagine West Virginia Republicans not nominating Jim Justice. On the other hand, never underestimate the stupidity of WV voters

      – Republican primary voters over the last seven years or so have consistently found ways to screw things up. You know the list so I won’t repeat it.

      The last time Republicans got it right was 2014. That’s because McConnell and his super pac weighed in heavily in the primaries and made sure the best candidates for the general election won.

      For whatever reason, Republicans, with a few exceptions, have taken a hands-off process to the primaries. I think party strategists became convinced negative ads didn’t work anymore because of Trump in 2016.

      Yet, negative ads were the key reason Republicans won the MO Senate race in 2022. A well-funded super pac got involved about two months before primary day and torpedoed Greitens. Otherwise, he’d have won.

    157. Bitterlaw says:

      I do not know if any of the allegations are true. Was he the best the GOP had to offer in that district?

    158. MichiganGuy says:


    159. Gordon Allen says:

      Jason. In the deposition Trump defended his access Hollywood tape as par for the course for rich and famous celebrities, and kissing and foundling female celebrity admires was OK since it’s been done in Hollywood like forever.
      I have no doubt the jury listening to that,and other comments decided then and there to find him guilty on general grounds.
      The fact Trump was so brazen,and lacking in self control and awareness in a court proceeding shows how many of these self inflicted daggers Trump will stab himself with in a contested and length Presidential campaign.
      He has NO Chance of being elected.

    160. jason says:

      I bet if you looked at each congressman most of them would be guilty of such “crimes”.

      Santos is being persecuted for basically lying about his record.

      Not to say some of these charges might not be true, but as usual the DOJ is weaponizing its powers to selectively target Republicans.

      I hope Santos does not get bullied into resigning unless he is actually convicted.

    161. jason says:

      I have no doubt the jury listening to that,and other comments decided then and there to find him guilty on general grounds.”

      Ah, so Neville Allen admits the jury convicted him not based on any evidence but on his “comments about Hollywood Access”.

      Trump was not convicted because of his deposition. He was convicted because he was Donald Trump.

      The allegation by Tara Reade are 100 times more credible, they actually have a date and corroboration.

      Do you think Biden would have been convicted in a NY court?

    162. jason says:

      Yet, negative ads were the key reason Republicans won the MO Senate race in 2022. A well-funded super pac got involved about two months before primary day and torpedoed Greitens. Otherwise, he’d have won.”

      Greitens would have won the GE too. Easily.

    163. jason says:

      WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Democratic U.S. Senator Joe Manchin said on Wednesday he would oppose all nominees for Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) posts until President Joe Biden’s administration halts what he described as its “radical climate agenda.”

      Good luck with that.

    164. jason says:

      He has NO Chance of being elected.”

      Yeah, I heard that in 2016.

      In fact, I said it myself. Hundreds of times.

    165. jason says:

      Neville Allen and E. Jean Carroll

      What a darling couple…

    166. Tina says:

      Muh access Hollywood tape. Let’s try a bit harder.

    167. Tina says:

      That is why the court of appeals will reverse the hearing.

      You cannot award defamation due to a claim that the jury rejected.

      I did not rape her/she is not my type/I don’t know her is not defamation.

    168. Tina says:

      Is not even defamation*

    169. jason says:

      Why Santos was indicted.

      Not a single tweet about bombshell Biden family bribery schemes laid out in lengthy presser by @GOPoversight

      Washington Post (2 on Santos)
      NYT (3 on Santos)
      Politico (2 on Santos)
      CNN (1 on Santos)
      MSNBC (2 on Santos)
      ABC News (3 on Santos)
      CBS News (2 on Santos)

    170. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 10, 2023 at 11:49 am
      Greitens would have won the GE too. Easily.

      – Might Greitens have won? Sure. Easily? I doubt it. Greitens was a wildly unpopular person who was forced to resign as governor because of what happened in his personal life. On top of that, he embraced the Steve Bannon approach to politics. His ads were atrocious.

      If 2022 showed anything, it was that voters wanted nothing to do with the worst of the Trumpian candidates. Voters chose a stroke victim who couldn’t piece together two words over a cardiologist in PA.

      Had Greitens been the nominee, the party would’ve been forced to spend loads of money to keep him competitive. Had that been the case, it might have been money that didn’t go to Ron Johnson who won narrowly over a kook.

    171. Tina says:

      Yup a weaponized doj. They knew comer was speaking today.

      According to the indictment, he collected $564 in unemployment from New York. The Unjustice dept claims international wire fraud.


    172. Tina says:

      Perhaps those payments were accidentally given to him He could have corrected this easily. (We don’t know what he did). But it’s fixable and not a federal matter.

      They also had informants embedded apparently in his office.

    173. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 10, 2023 at 11:52 am
      He has NO Chance of being elected.”

      Yeah, I heard that in 2016.

      In fact, I said it myself. Hundreds of times.

      – In 2016, though, voters could only imagine what a potential Trump presidency might look like. No one ever could’ve believed it would turn out as it did. From the very first moment, it was nonstop drama and it was nonstop losing for the party.

      Now, voters know what a Trump presidency was because they lived through it for four years. As such, they rejected it in 2020. And that was before the riot at the Capitol, the indictment in NYC, the sexual assault verdict, the potential indictment in Georgia, and the potential indictments for classified documents and the January 6 riots.

      Trump won in 2016 because voters didn’t want Clinton to be president. And that happened because just enough Republicans in the suburbs, especially women, decided to vote for Trump. Those voters, though, are gone for Trump now. They abandoned him in 2020 and it will be by a bigger margin in 2024.

    174. Tina says:

      It was two unemployment checks of $564. Seems like the state would request the money be repaid.

    175. jason says:

      But the problem was the “deposition”

      “Since a jury in New York is now tasked with determining whether E. Jean Carroll really was raped by Donald Trump nearly three decades ago, it’s a good time to reflect on just how ridiculous her claim was when she originally made it in 2019.

      But more critical than the 79-year-old magazine writer’s allegation that Trump assaulted her in a fitting room after the two noisily galavanted throughout a popular department store — a claim she made to promote a new book — is the absolute nonsense she said immediately after.

      It’s pretty stunning to accuse a sitting president of rape but then not want to call it rape, which is exactly what Carroll did at the time. In an interview with The New York Times, “It was an episode. It was an action. It was a fight. It was not a crime. It was, I had a struggle with a guy.” She added in the same interview, “I am not — I have not been raped. Something has not been done to me. I fought. That’s the thing.”

    176. jason says:

      Now, voters know what a Trump presidency was because they lived through it for four years. ”

      Yeah, and many, like me, realize it was a pretty good presidency if you are a conservative, if you are a minority, and if you are a working class voter.

      Trump delivered for them. That is why he is a strong contender for the nomination.

      It doesn’t mean he is the best candidate for 2024, he isn’t, but if Rs want to win they should recognize his accomplishments, of which there are many, and try to build on them instead of disparaging and attacking them.

    177. jason says:

      As such, they rejected it in 2020.”


      Trump got a lot more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.

      And he came within 42,000 votes in three states of winning again, even with fraud.

      I think the Golden Calf would be a better candidate.

      But it would be stupid to count Trump out if he is the nominee if you look at 2016 and 2020.

    178. jason says:

      If 2022 showed anything, it was that voters wanted nothing to do with the worst of the Trumpian candidates.”

      Zzzzz…. Trump did not endorse Greitens.

      And hard to get “Trumpier” than Eric Schmitt.

      “When it comes to fueling Donald Trump’s presidential reelection ride, U.S. Sen. Eric Schmitt, R-Glendale, appears to be an early addition to the tank.

      A story published in Politico states that Schmitt, Missouri’s former attorney general who was elected in November to the Senate, has thrown his support — without using the word “endorsement” — to the former president.

      “He’s very popular in Missouri,” Schmitt said of Trump in an interview with Politico. “He’s been somebody that’s gotten the support of Missourians by big margins a couple times. He has my support.”

    179. Cash Cow TM says:


      People do not want to vote for a candidate who is a vile, rude, crude, scoundrel on a personal level–even if they agree with his policy positions.

      In 2016 Trump greatly benefited by the fact that Hillary was so despised. Trump was less despised than Hillary.

      By 2020, Trump “being Trump” turned off a significant slice or % of voters. They slid over to vote for what they perceived to be the lesser evil, Joe Biden.
      I was pleasantly surprised and happy with most of the things Trump accomplished (or did not act to screw it up). I was horrified/tuned off by the way he speaks, tweets and acts, as well as his sophomoric view of world affairs and issues. I had four chances to vote for him and never voted for him because I felt he was very unqualified for POTUS, he was a vile person, and it made no difference who I voted for in my state for POTUS–which gave Trump a huge vote victory here in 2016 and 2020.

      Trump had no government experience in 2016 and pretty much zero understanding of how government operates, etc. on his first day in office. After 4 years as POTUS, I still think he lacks a decent grasp on how government operates. One of his biggest faults politically is that he is quick to kneecap or throw hand grenades at any R who does not do everything he wants or offers a differing opinion than Trump’s.

      Certainly to God, the R party has other possible standard bearers with far less baggage to be at the top of the ticket in 2024 than Trump.
      All the above statements can be true.

    180. PresidentPaul! says:

      Yet you voted for an ACTUAL war criminal George W. Bush.

      Just shows how petty you are.

    181. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 10, 2023 at 1:41 pm
      Now, voters know what a Trump presidency was because they lived through it for four years. ”

      Yeah, and many, like me, realize it was a pretty good presidency

      – You’re not a swing voter in the suburbs, though.

    182. NYCmike says:

      Prediction: Republicans in Senate will roll over like Robbie reading a NY Times story about Trump

      They will abandon McCarthy as soon as they can, as will people like Robbie, “CG”, Wes…..let’s see if jason has learned anything in the past decade.

      The fact that House Republicans are the only ones who passed a bill to avoid this will not have any affect on the people who will roll over like dogs.

    183. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 10, 2023 at 1:44 pm
      As such, they rejected it in 2020.”


      Trump got a lot more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.

      – And Biden got significantly more votes in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016.

      Voting participation was up significantly because there was so much mail-in voting.

      So, yes, voters rejected Trump’s presidency by electing Biden.

    184. Robbie says:

      It’s hard for me to abandon Kevin McCarthy when I never supported him for Speaker in the first place.

      But it seems he’ll probably only be in the job for just one term. Trump will produce a Democrat trifecta once again in 2024.

    185. jan says:

      When I was in nursing school I had a teacher who was a cigarette-smoking, stern ex nun. She took no nonsense from anyone, did not coddle her students, had them research their own questions, was a feared presence in the nursing Dept. She also eventually became a favorite among the students as we learned so much from her, and despite her harsh disposition, always had our back. I had one independent study course through her and got a B+ on a paper that determined the course grade. Years later, she sent me a grade change, upping it to an A because after rereading the paper thought it deserved a higher grade.

      Trump reminds me of that professor – tough, unkind on the outside, but having good qualities, follow-through, and honest intentions on the inside that often were not outwardly recognized. Until he became president I saw Trump as a self-centered playboy type. But, later on stories seeped out dealing with his more personable nature ———> paying for medical costs or mortgages of people in need; giving personal checks to families who had a loved one imprisoned overseas; giving women high positions of power in his companies; contributing to some of the legal bills of the J6 defendants; many positive anecdotal stories from employees. Maybe that’s why his course mannerisms seem less offensive to me, especially in light of all the positive domestic/foreign policies that were derived under his presidency.

    186. Wes says:

      So, Mikey, having worked overtime from 2010 to 2020, to help Schumer become Senate Majority Leader, should you really be claiming Robbie, Jason, and I will abandon Kevin McCarthy?

      I mean, the guy who literally claims opposing Schumer’s chosen candidates in GOP Senate primaries means one opposes the primary system should probably not be making wild, unfounded accusations against others.

    187. NYCmike says:

      “But it seems he’ll probably only be in the job for just one term. Trump will produce a Democrat trifecta once again in 2024.”

      -If the House and Senate Republicans abandon pass on negotiating and succumb to media-Democrat-driven pressure to “do something”, they will produce the Democratic Trifecta by giving Republicans ZERO reasons to vote for them.

      Same reason why the budget is as whacked out as it already is…..keep rolling over for the Left, and people will simply stop paying attention.

      Who is John Gault? is real-life.

      Ayn Rand was prescient.

    188. NYCmike says:

      Wes, keep repeating your foolishness if it makes you feel better about yourself.

    189. Tina says:

      It won’t be hard for me to support Biden in 2024.

      -Russian hoaxer/Clinton groupie.

    190. Wes says:

      The only foolishness I’m repeating, Mikey, is the foolishness you’ve engaged in for your decade plus of posting on here. Everyone knows you’re Schumer’s biggest shill on here. No one buys the laughable idea that you want Republicans to run the Senate. It’s not as if we can’t read your reams of posts lionizing unelectable grifters in competitive Senate primaries and accusing those who don’t want such idiots nominated of “opposing the primary system”–whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean.

      I’m not the only one to call you out on your Schumer fetish either, Mikey. Multiple others have reached the same conclusion about you I have.

      Now kindly go f uck yourself, bitch.

    191. PresidentPaul! says:

      Defund the CIA and FBI STAT

      Deep State attacking Trump continues.

      CIA Helped Recruit Signers For ‘Russian Disinfo’ Laptop Letter That Influenced 2020 Election</a

    192. PresidentPaul! says:

      Ron Paul: After ‘CIA coup,’ agency ‘runs military’

      US House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a “coup” against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be “taken out.”

    193. Paul says:

      Wow, Wes accomplished the b-word and didn’t have to resort to an umlaut. The HHR censors are slacking off in these final days. 🙂

    194. Tgca says:


      I would give that a WESCON 5.5 or 6 if there were such a level.

      Weak rant.

    195. PresidentPaul! says:

      Putting Biden in charge of the military is putting the wolves in charge of the sheep protection.

      He’s #1 money launder in the world and all this money going to Ukraine is going right into the Biden’s bank account.

      Foolish republicans going along with the fake president.

    196. PresidentPaul! says:

      DJT: new presidential ad “Mourning in America”

      Biden has been another disaster president

    197. Tgca says:

      Like ONLY 95% of Trump endorsed candidates won in 2022. What a horrible record! Step aside dude! You’re bring down the GOP!

      Mind you, Wobbie’s new fave candidate he CLAIMS to support, DeSanctimonius, as long as Jeb doesn’t run of course, also endorsed a number of these “TRUMPIAN” candidates that lost.

      Does that mean DeSanctimonius also has bad judgment and should step aside and let someone with good judgment and who really can relate to ALL people, like Nikki “I feel your pain” Haley take the 2024 GOP mantle?

    198. Tgca says:


      That’s a very effective and concise presidential message. That’s what Trump needs to keep doing…

      …when he’s not destroying his character in depositions in court hearings with fair-minded jurors.

    199. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      May 10, 2023 at 5:20 pm
      Like ONLY 95% of Trump endorsed candidates won in 2022

      – I’m not surprised a buffoonish Trump worshipper like you would cite such a dumb statistic. Trump endorsed in hundreds of uncompetitive races. Of course, you know that, but you want to cover up for the fact Donnie burdened the party with unelectable hucksters in important races like Oz, Walker, and Masters.

    200. PresidentPaul! says:

      We honestly need Ron Paul to be 30 years younger to run at this point.

      Trump is pretty good though. Second best choice.

    201. PresidentPaul! says:

      I think the primary election theme will be restoring the rightful president and getting rid of the the thief.

    202. PresidentPaul! says:

      He’s back! You can’t Stump the Trump

      Don on Truth Social

      Hundreds of thousands of people will be pouring into our Country today from “parts unknown.” There will never have been anything like it. Many will be from prisons and mental institutions.

      Congratulations to the Radical Left Democrats for having destroyed the USA.

      Today we become A THIRD WORLD NATION!!!

    203. PresidentPaul! says:

      DOJ was sitting on a Santos arrest to announce on the day the GOP house released it’s Joe Biden report.

      They wanted to orchestrate a GOP congressman arrest meanwhile they are sitting on Hunter Biden’s lap top for 4 years now.

    204. Wes says:

      PresidentPaul! says:
      May 10, 2023 at 5:48 pm
      I think the primary election theme will be restoring the rightful president and getting rid of the the thief.

      If that’s Trump’s campaign theme, then people need to get ready for Biden to win in a walk. That’s the stupidest basis for a campaign Trump can possibly have.

    205. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Who do you think did a better job handling the economy?

      Donald Trump 54%
      Joe Biden 36%

      @ABC/@Washington post
      1,006 Adults, 4/28-5/3

    206. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Has the mental sharpness it takes to serve effectively as president:

      Joe Biden:
      Yes 32%
      No 63%

      Donald Trump:
      Yes 54%
      No 43%

      1,006 4/28-5/3

    207. PresidentPaul! says:

      They will probably vote for Clown World (Joe Biden president)

      If they do there is nothing you can do about it.

      Lots of Americans are idiots so you have to let them do their thing.

    208. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Is honest and trustworthy:

      Joe Biden:
      Yes 41%
      No 54%

      Donald Trump:
      Yes 33%
      No 63%

      1,006 Adults, 4/28-5/3

    209. NYCmike says:

      “Now kindly go f uck yourself, bitch.”


      Potty mouth!

      And a pathetic one at that!

      Similar to “others” who have also seen this supposed Schumer-love.

      When you have a losing argument, resort to name-calling.

      Thank you, Wes, for showing the type of person you are.

      Many kind regards in your fantasies.

    210. Tgca says:


      Wobbie makes a fool of himself AGAIN!

      Perhaps Wobbie should do his homework before challenging The EXPERT in all things except all things gay to which I defer to LisaB.

      Let’s see, in ACTUAL potential Senate and Gubbernor competitive seats the GOP could have won in 2022, DeSanctimonius and Trump were nearly identical, in endorsing both winners and losers.

      So again, I pose the question to Wobbie, is a DeSanctimonius endorsement the “kiss of death” for candidates like Trump’s endorsements?

      Isn’t it true then that DeSanctimonius’ high profile visibility supporting and campaigning for these losers cost the GOP the elections?

      Isn’t it also then true, like Trump, that if DeSanctimonius supported and campaigned for all these losers, then he is not the right person to lead the GOP for 2024 because he was a proven loser in 2022 and is a drag on the GOP outside Floreedah because Floreedah IS NOT representative of the US.

      Losing candidates both Trump and DeSantis endorsed in 2022:

      AZ- Blake Masters
      CO – Joe O’Dea
      GA -Walker
      NH – John Bolduc
      NV – Adam Laxalt
      PA – Mehmet Oz

      Out of 6 potential GOP Senate seat wins in 2022, both DeSanctimonius and Trump endorsed all 6 losers.

      AZ – Kari Lake
      KS – Derek Schmidt
      ME – Paul LePage
      NM – Mark Ronchetti
      NY – Lee Zeldin
      PA- Doug Mastriano
      WI – Tim Michels

      Out of 8 potential GOP Gubbernor seat wins in 2022, DeSanctimonius endorsed 7 losers and Trump endorsed 8 losers. DeSanctimonius NEVER came out for Dixon in MI but otherwise, he and Trump were identical in supporting and/or campaigning for these losers.

    211. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      207. “If that’s Trump’s campaign theme, then people need to get ready for Biden to win in a walk. That’s the stupidest basis for a campaign Trump can possibly have.”

      I don’t think Trump can let it go. It was only several months ago that Trump demanded the Constitution be suspended so that he could assume the Presidency, since he was the actual winner in 2020.

      We are heading into the 2024 election with two appalling bad, mentally off candidates.

    212. Tgca says:

      I would also ask Wobbie who Jeb endorsed in 2022 races.

      Now I give it to Jeb and Wobbie for both endorsing the certified winner Biden in 2020, but that was just one race. They both chose the loser Hillary in 2016.

      At least I know I endorsed the TRUE legitimate presidential winner in both 2016 and 2020, Trump.

    213. jason says:

      And a pathetic one at that!

      Similar to “others” who have also seen this supposed Schumer-love”



      You have been Schumer’s b-tch here for over a decade.

      Just too dishonest to own up to it.

    214. jason says:

      Like ONLY 95% of Trump endorsed candidates won in 2022

      – I’m not surprised a buffoonish Trump worshipper like you would cite such a dumb statistic.”

      Heh, statistics are dumb when they completely refute Amoral Scumbag’s narrative.

      The truth is the overwhelming majority of Trump endorsed candidates won.

      Deal with it.

    215. Tgca says:


      We are heading into the 2024 election with two appalling bad, mentally off candidates.

      That may be true but at least the GOP has a chance instead of running a chubby, angry white, racist, homophobic dude who will alienate women and moderate voters with his policies, and chase a good portion of MAGA and working class voters away, especially if he forgets to write LIKEABLE in BIG BOLD letters on his note pads and speeches.

      After all, I don’t see drag queens as the major issues of national voter concerns like Floreedah politicians do.

    216. PresidentPaul! says:

      On the contrary, Trump is the greatest GOP president of our lifetime, and 2024 will be the restoration of his presidency.

    217. PresidentPaul! says:

      When is DeSantis going to admit Trump is the rightful president?

    218. Tgca says:



      Wobbie is still asking why Trump won’t admit his candidate Hillary was the rightful 2016 winner.

      Damn Pootin!

      1st he steals an election in 2016 and then gives us all this inflation after 2020.

      What’s next with these damn Russians?

    219. Tina says:

      Does Kampala seem intoxicated?

    220. Bitterlaw says:

      I appreciate all the posts on the new site. I get emails to approve them. Another problem to fix.

    221. Paul says:

      DJT is a traitor and criminal.

    222. PresidentPaul! says:

      I am a bitch.

    223. PresidentPaul! says:

      I love Putin and want him to take over eastern Europe and make me the number one penis in the region.

    224. PresidentPaul! says:

      More name thieves

    225. PresidentPaul! says:

      That last post wasn’t me.

    226. Bitterlaw says:

      231 We figured it was not you since it was not promoting crypto.

    227. Qanon says:

      Can I put an end to Trump? Is that within my capabilities? Trump is dead weight.

    228. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I was talking to a young Ukrainian friend of mine earlier today. We both commented on how small Putin’s Kremlin May 9th Parade was, with it’s sole outdated tank. Meanwhile Ukraine is preparing for 21st century warfare:

      “As part of the anticipated effort to drive invading Russian forces from territories they occupy, Mykhailo Fedorov, Ukraine Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Innovation, Development of Education, Science and Technology and Minister of Digital Transformation, said the nation has spent millions of dollars buying new drones, and training thousands of pilots to effectively use them for a range of military objectives.

      Those mission reportedly include reconnaissance and intelligence gathering of enemy troop location and movement, relaying coordinates that artillery units use to accurately strike targets, and one-way kamikaze bombing missions by explosives-loaded UAVs flown by FPV operators.

      Several drone attacks in Russia proper suggest Ukraine’s aerial efforts now also rely on larger UAVs with greater flight capacities to bring the war back deep into the invader’s territory”

    229. Marv says:

      Hey Guys,

      I think that we should start posting over at Bitter’s HHR Phoenix site. There doesn’t seem to be much traffic over there yet.

      I thought President Trump did quite well on the CNN Townhall tonight. Their panel afterwards had a virtual meltdown, particularly Tapper and Bash.

    230. Tgca says:



      I post at HHR, not some fake HHR!

      As Trump would say, FAKE News!

    231. Bitterlaw says:

      Marv – Thank you. I appreciate the support. Until I fix the issue of me getting an e-mail to approve each comment, posting here is fine.

    232. Wes says:

      How many gallons of paint did you drink as a kid, Mikey?

      Jason literally called you out for your Schumer idolatry in 217. I told you, idiot, everyone on here knows how obsessed with Schumer you are. I’m just the most vocal about calling you out on it.

    233. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC has never voted for Schumer. Accusing him of supporting Schumer when he votes against him every 6 years is absurd.

    234. jason says:

      “The Gold Medal for spin may have to go to the New Republic. After revealing millions of dollars being filtered through 17 LLCs to nine Biden family members from foreign sources, the TNR headlined:”Republicans Finally Admit They Have No Incriminating Evidence on Joe Biden.”

    235. jason says:

      That was Jonathan Turley.

    236. jason says:

      NYC has never voted for Schumer. Accusing him of supporting Schumer when he votes against him every 6 years is absurd.”

      Heh, what is absurd is shilling for him after he has tirelessly endeavored to make Chuck Schumer Majority Leader.

      And of course, given the manner in which he has supported Schumer, the statement “NYC never voted for Schumer” is highly questionable and you absolutely don’t know whether that is true or not.


    237. Phil says:

      I like Turley. One of the last honest liberals out left out there. You know he catches hell from the rest of academia. He doesn’t care. The man has principles. Respect how he stands up for those principles.

    238. jason says:

      According to Bitter’s really asinine definition of “support”, you cannot support a candidate unless you vote for him or send him money.

      I guess it means I can’t support the Golden Calf for President since I haven’t voted for him or sent him money.

      But even if you accept the asinine definition the fact is Bitter has no evidence that NYC doesn’t vote for or send Schumer money.

    239. jason says:

      I am surprised Turley hasn’t been cancelled at GW University yet. I know Dershowitz is persona non grata at Harvard even though he taught there for decades.

    240. jason says:

      Wes says:
      May 11, 2023 at 7:45 am

      How many gallons of paint did you drink as a kid, Mikey?”

      It was most likely lead paint.

    241. Bitterlaw says:

      Pointing out that there is no evidence that NYC has never voted for or sent money to Senate candidates outside of New York is shilling for him? Zzzzzzzzz

      I take him at his word. Just as I accept Jason has a llama.

    242. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason has no evidence that NYC has voted for or sent Schumer money. Therefore, he can suck it.

    243. Tgca says:

      I saw most the CNN Trump Townhall after the fact on Twitter.

      He obliterated the host and her “gotcha” questions and then talked directly to the audience and addressed their inquiries about his vision for 2024.

      Classic Trump owning the moment!

      It was a pro-Trump audience and they loved him which shows me he is gonna be a force to deal with in the primaries and it still shows he has the Mojo despite what MSM, TDS folks, and Rinos say.

      I think CNN thought they were gonna put him on the spot with rape case verdict and 2020 issues in front of his supporters and turn them against him.

      Epic failure! This guy has been in front of the camera and in the spotlight for decades so he knows how to handle a crowd, especially a MAGA one.

      He was aggressive and challenged the CNN hack but remained calm and then spoke about the issues with the audience, and basically claimed, you’re the one obsessed with 2020.

      It appears the new MSM strategy is to keep talking about 2020 and J6, knowing Trump will respond strongly, and then claim he has no plan for the future and is obsessed with 2020.

      He turned the tables on them and said, you ask me questions on 2020, I’ll respond truthfully but let’s talk about the mess Biden created and how I’ll fix it…then CNN goes back to more 2020 or rape verdict accusations instead of talking about 2024.

      The political talking heads assessing the interview afterwards called him every name and even attacked the audience because they knew Trump hit it out of the ballpark. They were clearly livid their strategy backfired, especially on the rape verdict issue.

      …and the libs on Twitter are freaking out that this was a free infomercial for Trump and how could you CNN. AOC was in spasms over this.

      Trump wins AGAIN!

    244. Bitterlaw says:

      Perhaps Jason can provide his evidence that NYC has voted for and contributed to Schumer. We’ll wait.

      I don’t know if he has visited the new site yet. I hope he does as A-holes are at the core of HHR.

    245. Bitterlaw says:

      I wonder how Putin in going to build a high rise at the front so Prighozin can fall out of a window.

    246. jason says:


      Of course, Tgca will oppose it…

      TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Teachers and other government employees will have to write monthly checks if they want to stay in their union after Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill Tuesday banning automatic dues deductions from public employees’ paychecks,

      The anti-union bill also gives employees the right to immediately quit a union for no reason and requires unions to recertify if the number of dues-paying members drops below 60% of those eligible to join.

      “If you want to join, you can, but you write a check and you hand it over. That is gonna lead to more take-home pay for teachers,” DeSantis said at the bill-signing ceremony.”

    247. jason says:

      Perhaps Jason can provide his evidence that NYC has voted for and contributed to Schumer. We’ll wait.”

      Nah, nah, that dog won’t hunt.

      YOU claimed he never voted for Schumer.

      “NYC has never voted for Schumer”

      You are the one who made the statement, what is YOUR evidence.

      We’ll wait.

    248. jason says:

      I don’t know if he has visited the new site yet. I hope he does as A-holes are at the core of HHR.”

      I did, but my comment was under moderation.

    249. Tgca says:

      I have no problem with rules that give union workers choice. I was once forced into a union during my college job days. It was awful.

      Glad to see DeSanctimonius is catching up to some other GOP leaders who have reformed unions.

    250. jason says:

      The mercenary force chief appeared to brand the 70-year-old dictator a ‘complete a**hole'”

      No worries.

      If Putin applies to the A-hole Club, his application will be blackballed.

      You read it here first.

    251. jason says:

      Pointing out that there is no evidence that NYC has never voted for or sent money to Senate candidates outside of New York is shilling for him? Zzzzzzzzz”

      Good twisting of facts, but epic fail.

      I never claimed that NYC voted or sent money to Schumer, I merely disputed that would be the only criteria for supporting him.

      As Wes and I have pointed out, NYC has tirelessly supported and endeavored to make Schumer majority leader for years.

      It was YOU who came up with the ridiculous statement that in order to have supported Schumer, NYC had to have sent him money or voted for him.

      Nobody here knows whether NYC voted for or sent Schumer money, but we sure know he has supported him.

    252. Tgca says:

      Me thinks that Pence, Haley, and DeSanctimonius have to be looking at this CNN Townhall and thinking…

      …oh chit, Trump can spin a verdict in a rape case positively to his benefit seeing how he took really bad news that would sink any other candidate and turned it into a rallying cry with the base while still focusing on the dire problems Biden has caused and how Trump plans to fix it in 2024.

      How do you compete with someone with major accomplishments as president and that can handle a press the way Trump did in that venue giving the events of the week.

      He also turned the libs against CNN and now CNN is being attacked as a Trump enabler. I love it!

    253. Bitterlaw says:

      I think I have approved all comments. GFY.

      I have to fix that issue.

    254. Tina says:

      I think lil Kaitlin should have been better prepared.

      Here are just some of her lies.

      You built only 55 miles of wall. Easily refuted by the border patrol showing hundreds of miles of new wall, and hundreds of mile of fixes. Where did 55 come from?

      You did not warn the rioters until 3 hours after j6. Trump fact checked her with the tweets sent minutes after the rioting happened, and while he was still speaking.

      You did not call out the national guard. Truth- guard was called out days before, but Piglosi and the Dc mayor refused it.

    255. Tina says:

      There is also a 1/5 tweet calling for peaceful protests. The day before j6.

      No wonder the joke 6 made the j5 and j6 day tweets disappear.

      Kaitlin should have also had more audience participation questions. I rather hear from the audience than from her.

    256. Tina says:

      And then after the town hall, Representative Bryon destroyed the cnn and n hacks. He calmly walked in there and refuted more of their lies, citing congressional testimony.

    257. Tina says:

      With Bryon and Vance, the Rs have much stronger politicians than the Rinos.

      Vance is an all star.

      I wish Hawley or Noem would still run, but oh well.

    258. PresidentPaul! says:

      Trump says no more biden money laundering in Ukraine

      CNN Townhall: Trump says he will stop Ukraine war in 24 hours

    259. PresidentPaul! says:

      Follow the money to the Biden crime family

    260. PresidentPaul! says:

      Their VP is so bad. Worse than Biden himself!

    261. jason says:

      Actually, he said nothing of the kind.

      He said he would settle the war in a day by meeting with Putin and Zelensky.

      Sounds like complete BS, but he did not commit to stopping aid to Ukraine.

    262. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 11, 2023 at 11:33 am

      I think I have approved all comments. GFY.

      I have to fix that issue.”

      It asks me for email and name each time I try to post.

    263. Bitterlaw says:

      HHR asks for the same info.

    264. Bitterlaw says:

      Of course, I still log in to

    265. Tina says:

      Bubu, he actually suggested more $ for Ukraine.

      Says we have spent $170 billion.

      The euros have soent $20 billion.

      Wants greater money from the euros, like he got from NATO.

    266. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 11, 2023 at 12:00 pm

      HHR asks for the same info.”

      Yes, but you get in.

      In your site, nothing happens.

    267. Bitterlaw says:

      Look, A-hole. Others made it in. Try to post and I will approve it.

    268. Bitterlaw says:

    269. PresidentPaul! says:

      He should commit to kicking a lot of these countries out of NATO

    270. Tgca says:

      HA! HA! HA! HA!
      HA! HA! HA!

      Masterful job? REALLY?

      This moron rude CNN hack with her anti-Trump and anti-MAGA agenda tried every gotcha question and tried to make the Townhall all about a 2020 rigged election, J6, and the rape trial verdict.

      Trump turned the tables on her masterfully and bonded with the audience. She looked perturbed, combative, and could not control the vibe as she expected.

      CNN commentators were soiling themselves over how “mean and lying” Trump was and how disrespectful the audience was…I guess not as classy as The View audiences.

      It reminded me of election night 2016 where early on the MSM and pundits relished in mocking Trump and couldn’t wait for Trump to get his comeuppance and then they spiraled out of control into despair when the results started pouring in, attacking the voters for…GASP making their own voting choice over the MSM.

      On a network-wide editorial call, Mr. Licht congratulated the moderator, Kaitlan Collins, on “a masterful performance” before acknowledging the public backlash. “We all know covering Donald Trump is messy and tricky, and it will continue to be messy and tricky,” he said. “But it’s our job.”

    271. jason says:

      I posted “A-hole test”

      The comment disappeared but does not appear on the thread.

    272. jason says:

      New Twitter CEO chosen.

      No, its not me.

    273. Bitterlaw says:

      I saw you comment. Patience. Rome was not built in a day. I asked Walt.

    274. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      San Francisco is becoming a dystopian nightmare:

      “The Globe reported:

      Walgreens has closed more and more stores in the city due to the massive amount of crime within its stores. Higher-end stores like Cotopaxi have also cited break-ins and crime as major reasons for leaving. And just within the last two months, all Amazon Go stores, Anthropologie, several high-end Union square stores, and the flagship Whole Foods store have all announced that their doors will be closing, along with multiple non-chain stores throughout the city. Less than a week ago, both Nordstrom and Saks Off 5th announced the closure of 3 main locations in the city.

      This is so sad, and so avoidable. And residents want to know why Mayor London Breed, the City Council and County Board of Supervisors are allowing the city to degenerate and collapse. San Francisco is plagued by lawlessness, violent crime, homelessness, open drug use and the police budget was cut more than $120 million in 2020. The Mayor made the announcement that the $120 million would be spent “addressing disparities in the Black community.”

    275. Tgca says:

      Marine to be charged with manslaughter in NYC homeless man’s death on train after choke hold.

      What was he thinking assaulting a crazy person who had not attacked anyone but was just yelling and cursing like a lunatic? I’ve seen this numerous times in NYC and San Francisco, especially on public transportation.

      Unless someone touches you or goes to attack you, using that level of force is unnecessary.

      From what I read after it 1st happened, a few witnesses claimed there was no action by the homeless guy to warrant physical interaction. When the train riders side with the homeless guy, you know you’re in trouble.

      Sad for both. One dead and one most likely going to jail with this life-ruinous event.

    276. Phil says:

      Damn. Alvin Bragg stole Tgca’s handle.

    277. JeffP says:

      281 Thanks for your work on this BL. I have a word press account. Plan to post soon. I have been taking a break. Not looking forward to all the Trump drama in the coming months.

      Basically many who were not Trump fans in 2016 but voted for him anyway and again in 2020 want DeSantis. I still think his recent surge in the polls is soft.

    278. Tgca says:


      So Phil thinks crazy azz screaming people in the street should be assaulted and put in chokeholds and die from it? Got it!

      Listen to yourself dude! Have you ever rode public transportation in large cities in the winter or summer when these lunatics are on the train all the time? Crazies on public transportation are common occurrence and it’s annoying and a major nuisance but there was no compelling reason for the marine’s actions according to reported witness accounts.

      This guy was mentally ill and according to witnesses, was freaking out but made no attack towards anyone.

      Why did the marine physically intervene when there was no physical threat?

      A man is dead, albeit a disturbed one, because the marine used deadly erroneous judgment.

    279. Bitterlaw says:

      JeffP – You are welcome. Still more work to but better than it was.

    280. Phil says:


      Guess he won’t get the opportunity to be arrested for that 44th time.

      Too bad, so sad.

    281. Phil says:

      I’m liking that format on the other blog, bitter.

      Nice work.

    282. Tgca says:

      288 Phil

      You sound like a lefty ANTIFA freak now.

      Let’s assault someone because I don’t like their behavior or what they’re saying…or screaming in this case.

      i worked in NYC for years and learned to deal with such loonies. As long as they don’t attack you, ignore them. They’re crazy or off their meds.

      No different than many drunks in TX acting out. Should they also be attacked for shouting chit under the influence and behaving aggressively?

    283. Phil says:

      Here they don’t get arrested 43 times and immediately released back on the streets each and every time so it doesn’t get that far. That’s a NYC thing.

    284. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      288. Three people were involved in restraining the man. Not just the Marine. I agree with the New York Mayor, I want know all the facts before passing judgment:

      “On Monday afternoon, Neely was yelling and pacing back and forth on an F train in Manhattan, witnesses and police said.

      He was then was restrained by at least three people, including the Marine veteran, who pulled one arm tightly around his neck.

      Neely, who is Black, lost consciousness during the struggle.

      * * *

      The incident has divided New Yorkers, with many viewing the death as an unconscionable vigilante killing that also reflects the city’s inadequate support of those with mental illnesses, as The New York Times reported.

      Others, including Mayor Eric Adams, have urged the public to wait to pass judgment until an official investigation has been completed.”

    285. Tgca says:


      The guy had a history of mental illness and should not be on the street if he is a danger to the community but there was no way the marine would know that.

      He choked a man to death. You okay with that?

      Hopefully no one you care for is mentally ill or inebriated and acts out and then gets choked to death for ranting and raving like a lunatic.

    286. Tgca says:


      The coroner already ruled he was choked to death so murder is established.

      The next question to ask is why?

      Witnesses claim there was ranting and raving but no assault.

      Should ranting and raving like a lunatic be an excuse to choke someone?

    287. Phil says:

      I don’t know. Are the witnesses more reliable than the witnesses in Missouri that swore up and down the “gentle giant” threw his hands up and said “don’t shoot”?

      Asking for a friend.

    288. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I don’t think three people act to subdue a crazy person for no cause. I want to hear their side of the story, and see the full investigative report, prior to making any conclusions.

    289. Tgca says:


      We can say the same about Ashli Babbit then too, riiiiight? Did she deserve to die for acting out like a loon trying to climb through a window into a secured area?

      …and by the way, she had a violent past with 3 restraining orders, prosecution for assault with her car, and property damage with her vehicle towards another vehicle…and if we want guilt by association, her brother was also convicted in Caleefawnyuh for assault and hate crime towards a utility worker.

      Did she deserve to die because she evidently had some violent criminal history too?

      Your problem is you want to crucify the left for supporting bad behavior but then excuse away when the right does it.

      I want to hold the same standard, whether left or right do it.

      Again, it’s not right or fair but dealing with crazy ranting and raving loonies in NYC is par for the course. Same thing in San Francisco or any place with large homeless populations.

      It’s people like you that give legitimacy to people who abuse the homeless on the street, the vast majority with mental illness.

      We get it! These are worthless people to you and their lives don’t matter so the marine is a hero and did a service to the community.

      Maybe sone day that will hit close to home for you and you’ll understand.

    290. Tgca says:


      You can think what you want but the homeless man was choked to death. That has been established by the coroner.

      Under what circumstances would you consider choking to death a valid defense if you were not assaulted?

    291. Tgca says:

      This is analogous to the Floyd case. Excessive, unwarranted, deadly force used to subdue a disturbed man. Whether he had a criminal record is irrelevant to the act of force used, especially in the case of the marine since he would have no way of knowing about such history.

      Both the policeman and the marine used excessively bad judgment that resulted in the death of another human being.

      It does not mean they are evil or bad people but what they need to do is take responsibility for their excessively bad judgment since they took the life of another human being.

    292. Phil says:

      Hey, Tgca, can the “people like you” drivel. If I want to hear your sanctimonious BS I’ll tune in to Morning Joe and Mika.

      Oh, and sorry you had to live in the sh*t hole that is NYC.

      Now go back to your usual spouting of MSNBC/Disney talking points trashing the governor of Florida.

      As Jason likes to say, GFY.

    293. Tgca says:

      You mean the same Jadon that calls you a Pootin stooge?

      Its not sanctimonious. You are an example of what’s wrong with America. You’re no different than the leftists. It’s hypocrisy to defend bad behavior from the right but criticize it on the left.

      You mean the gubbernor of Floreedah crashing in the polls and getting outsmarted by the leftists at Disney and now being sued in federal court, all while having his clock cleaned by other GOP politicians?

    294. Phil says:

      I am a piece of excrement.

    295. Bitterlaw says:

      Ok. I should not have to approve comments. I also think I fixed it so as long as you are signed in, you don’t have to type name and email every time. Maybe.

    296. Phil says:



      Must have really rubbed you the wrong way.

      Good. Mission accomplished

    297. Phil says:

      I like that part, bitter. A significant improvement over the present system.

    298. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      303. Great job Bitter! You have eluded the stereotype of attorneys being computer illiterate.

    299. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw – no need to even discuss with Wes and jason about their Schumer fantasies.

      I never supported him, and anyone with a functioning brain knows that.

      Good work on the new site, when I get some time, I’ll hope to see you all there.


    300. NYCmike says:

      -“stalwart” conservatives like Robbie, “CG”, MD, Author Mendez support the EPA/Democratic policies with their votes for Biden against Trump.


    301. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Don’t know if this is the beginning of a Ukrainian offensive, but it certainly creates confusion over where Ukraine is planning to attack. No wonder Putin had just one old Russian tank in his Victory Day celebration:

      “Ukrainian forces are advancing on both flanks of Bakhmut and have captured territory near the important road T0513, north-east of the city.

      The Ukrainian Army has also recaptured the strategically important Industrial College in the city itself.”


      Panic erupting on Russian Telegram after multiple reports of increased Ukrainian troop concentrations today in Beryslav

      There is reportedly a large number of Ukrainian small boats gathering on the Dniepr river in the region & amphibious vehicles have been spotted too.”


      Russian Telegram channels panic about a potential Ukrainian strike toward the Russian border city of Belgorod.

      Long columns of Ukrainians tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were reportedly spotted on the Kharkiv Ring Road today driving toward the Russian border.”

    302. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Reports of a Ukrainian breakthrough on the front line of the war have been denied by Russia – even though the claim was made by pro-Russia sources.

      Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner mercenary group fighting on the Russian side, accused regular Russian troops of abandoning positions around Bakhmut.

      Russian military bloggers reported Ukrainian advances or troop movements in several areas on Thursday.

      But the Kremlin denied Ukraine had made any significant advances.

      In a statement, Russia’s defence ministry said: “The individual declarations on Telegram about a ‘breakthrough’ on several points on the frontline do not correspond to reality.””

    303. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      300. The guy on the subway had been arrested previously for assaults on three women. You don’t suppose that he was assaulting someone again, when three passengers acted to stop him.

      “Mr Neely had 42 arrests on charges such as evading fares, theft, and assaults on three women, according to US media reports.”

    304. Tgca says:


      That’s not what’s been reported thus far from witness interviews. The interviews I read were that there was no physical assault, just ranting like a lunatic which is par for the course on NYC subways for decades.

      Again, there was no way the marine would know about his past unless he knew of him personally which doesn’t seem to be the case either. If he was not defending himself or others from physical assault, he should NOT have attacked and killed the mentally ill man. He used lethally excessive force and choked him to death! Manslaughter sounds about right to me if those are the facts.

      I hope you’re not suggesting that assaulting someone and choking them to death is the new standard to deal with ranting crazies?

    305. Wes says:

      NYCmike says:
      May 12, 2023 at 12:32 am

      -“stalwart” conservatives like Robbie, “CG”, MD, Author Mendez support the EPA/Democratic policies with their votes for Biden against Trump.


      Meanwhile, our resident Schumer kiss-ass–Mikey–has been spending a decade plus helping Democrats win a majority of Senate seats so Biden could appoint his left-wing lacke6s to the Senate with minimal opposition.


    306. Bitterlaw says:

      Posting on a blog with fewer than 20 readers is helping Schumer?

      Got it.

    307. jason says:

      Have Chileans seen the light? Hope so.

      “SANTIAGO, May 7 (Reuters) – Chilean right-wing parties won a majority of votes on Sunday to elect advisers to draft a new constitution, marking a sharp shift from a progressive majority that drafted a failed first constitutional rewrite.

      With 95.13% of ballots tallied, Chile’s Republican Party, led by former conservative firebrand presidential candidate Jose Antonio Kast, secured nearly 35% of the vote.

      A separate coalition of traditional right-wing parties gained just over 20% of the vote, while President Gabriel Boric’s left-wing coalition garnered about 29%. Centrist parties took the remainder of the vote.

      “Today is the first day of a better future, a new start for Chile,” Kast, who lost to Boric in 2021, said during a speech in Santiago. “Chile has defeated a failed government.”

      The final results will determine the exact make-up of a 50-seat Constitutional Council that will be in charge of drafting a new constitution. Articles will need a three-fifths majority to be approved.

      This is the latest step in a years-long effort to overhaul the country’s dictatorship-era text after nearly 80% of Chileans voted to draft a new constitution in 2020 following violent protests against inequality.”

    308. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 12, 2023 at 8:19 am

      Posting on a blog with fewer than 20 readers is helping Schumer?

      Got it”

      Goal post moving alert!

      At least Bitter now admits NYC has supported and done everything he could to make Schumer Majority Leader.

      His argument now is that is the audience was small.

    309. Bitterlaw says:

      We all hope that llamas will be recognized under the new Constitution as really cool.

    310. jason says:

      -“stalwart” conservatives like Robbie, “CG”, MD, Author Mendez support the EPA/Democratic policies with their votes for Biden against Trump”


      I will give credence to NYC’s rants against “Democratic policies” when he stops being Schumer’s little bitch.

    311. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzzz. Jason has never produced any evidence of anything that NYC did to allegedly make Schumer Majority Leader.

    312. jason says:

      Tgca is full of crap.

      The marine would be a hero in any jurisdiction not run by woke DAs.

      He absolutely did the right thing in protecting the other subway riders and should not be charged with a damm thing.

      “Bad judgment” my ass.

    313. Phil says:

      US interest on the debt has now equaled defense spending.

      Keep on printing.

    314. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 12, 2023 at 9:34 am

      Zzzzzzzzzz. Jason has never produced any evidence of anything that NYC did to allegedly make Schumer Majority Leader.”

      There are thousands of posts supporting deadender candidates certain to lose in order to make Schumer majority leader and “send a message”. Thousands of posts calling electable Rs RINOS and traitors and claiming their defeat to liberal Dems would send a message.

      And still waiting for “evidence” that NYC did not vote or send money to Schumer, as Bitter has claimed many times.

    315. Wes says:

      Conveniently Manchin, Tester, and Brown are suddenly border hawks:

    316. jason says:

      I clicked on this.

      I get a nice picture of a city skyline and nothing else.

    317. jason says:

      Judge Robert E. Payne of the US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia granted the plaintiffs’ motion for summary judgment today in Fraser, et al. v. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives, et al. He found that the prohibition on 18-to-20-year-olds buying handguns violates the Second Amendment and ‘cannot stand.”

      Good. Now let’s do alcohol.

      You can go to Afghanistan and handle heavy weaponry at 18 but you couldn’t buy a handgun in VA.

      You can spend 2 years in Afghanistan, be married and have kids at 20 but you can’t have a beer.

    318. jason says:

      Conveniently Manchin, Tester, and Brown are suddenly border hawks”

      Wes, Brown could be in trouble if the Rs don’t nominate one of “Schumer’s Bitch Mikey’s” candidates.

    319. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 12, 2023 at 9:31 am

      We all hope that llamas will be recognized under the new Constitution as really cool.”

      Cool? Zzzzz…

      They should have “indigenous voting rights” and reparations.

      If Lupita gets a fat check I will spend it on gu–, huh, llama feed.

    320. Bitterlaw says:

      Thousands of posts that did not produce or change any votes.

      Fixed it for Jason.

      NYC said he never voted for Schumer. Where is the picture of you and Lupita?

    321. Tgca says:


      You are confusing legality with desirability.

      If indeed the homeless guy attacked or was trying to attack folks, there MAY be some justification for assaulting him but I still think excessive force will be an issue for the marine. It takes quite a bit of force to strangle or choke someone to death, especially since they usually pass out before death can occur.

      But I’m going on the reports I read where witnesses said he did NOT attack anyone, just ranting and raving like a lunatic.

      That’s a big difference.

      1st, the law does not allow you to assault someone because they’re freaking out and you perceive they MAY be a threat at some point. They’re going to look at what his actions were. Otherwise, we’d have people assaulting crazies all the time for ranting and raving which is a common occurrence in NYC public transportation.

      2nd, the use of excessive force comes into play. He strangled the guy. That’s excessive force and probably NOT warranted. It takes great effort to strangle or choke someone to death. How is this different then the excessive force used on Floyd where the officer is now in prison for murder?

      3rd, being a hero to some is irrelevant because to others, he is a vigilante that took a life. You can’t go around taking the law into your own hands, as you risk being prosecuted and imprisoned.

      This appears to be reactionary “feel good street justice” and not lawful justice.

    322. Tgca says:


      I’m glad the vile meat-eating mental midget agrees with me on these silly laws against YOOTS.

    323. Bitterlaw says:

      Perhaps those who have made it to the new site can assist Jason. I know that there is a problem trying to get the threads to appear on the front of the site.

    324. Tgca says:

      Ummm …NO!!!

      I get the frustration with voter’s choices, especially by the young but this smacks of manipulative voting laws used by the Dems in the South to disenfranchise AA voters in decades past.

      I’m very surprised Swamy would embrace this discrimination.

      Under Ramaswamy’s desired amendment to the U.S. Constitution, those ages 18-25 would be allowed to vote only if they participate in a six-month “national service requirement” — in the military or as a first responder — or complete a civics test identical to the one required to become a naturalized citizen.

      … he described it as a critical stepping stone for restoring “civic pride” and “American identity” among young people.

    325. Robbie says:

      Mike Warren

      Another smart @thedispatch Politics newsletter today from @DavidMDrucker, @AudreyFahlberg and

      Nikki Haley tries the “kill Marco” playbook on Ron DeSantis, plus some thoughts on Trump and Senate primaries from @club4growth president.

      – From the moment Haley announced she was running for president, it was clear she was running to be Trump’s VP.

      If she actually believes she can run the same playbook from 2016 (beat everyone else and then beat Trump late in the process), then she and her strategists are out of their minds.

      If the candidates running against Trump want to win, they have to beat Trump now. Not later. Not after they’ve beaten the other also-rans. They have to go after Trump now. Sadly, time’s already wasting.

      We watched this terrible strategy in 2016. Every candidate thought they could ignore Trump for months and months and then someone vault to the nomination if they got it to a one-on-one race. Meanwhile Trump just kept winning primaries.

      At least Christie, even though he’s got no shot, realizes he’s got to take on Trump directly if he wants to beat Trump. And when DeSantis finally gets in the race, he’s going to need to spend every ounce of his time and large war chest going after Trump. If he wastes his time on Haley or Scott, then it’s all she wrote and we get Trump again and lose again.

    326. michael corleone says:

      #332 – I disagree. We can quibble about the age (maybe 21) but if 18 is too young to drink it is too young to vote. They aren’t responsible enough.

    327. Bitterlaw says:

      For those curious about the mysteries of “the filter,” if HHR is like the new site, there is an option to have the filter triggered by multiple links in a post or words chosen by the Administrator.

    328. Tina says:

      Senator Blumental indicates that he will impeach Donald Trump, if he pardons some J6 people.

      Doesn’t bluemental know that the president has the power to pardon?

    329. Bitterlaw says:

      I disagree with requiring service or a test to vote. Who is writing the curriculum and the test questions? This is subject to being manipulated by whichever party is in power. Legislators vote on budgets, taxes, etc. Should voters have to be CPAs to be qualified to vote?

    330. jason says:

      We watched this terrible strategy in 2016. Every candidate thought they could ignore Trump for months and months”


      This from the guy who trashed Rubio for months here and was ecstatic when Jeb! spent $40 million in attack ads against Rubio.

      Amoral Scumbag has the moral compass of a floating turd, he is triggered by the fact Trump has 50 times the integrity than he has.

    331. jason says:

      Perhaps those who have made it to the new site can assist Jason. I know that there is a problem trying to get the threads to appear on the front of the site”

      The website you posted here has nothing on it. goes nowhere.

      What is the correct web address. That would be a good start.

    332. jason says:

      We can quibble about the age (maybe 21) but if 18 is too young to drink it is too young to vote. They aren’t responsible enough.”


      It’s the other way around. If they are old enough to vote, and to go to war, and to marry, work and have families, they are old enough to own weapons and drink.

    333. jason says:

      And when DeSantis finally gets in the race, he’s going to need to spend every ounce of his time and large war chest going after Trump.”


      He needs to promote himself, not alienate Trump voters.

      He should not spend a cent or a minute attacking Trump.

      He should sell himself as better suited to deliver Trump’s policies.

      The Golden Calf can win as a better Trump.

      As the anti-Trump, he will be crushed.

    334. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 12, 2023 at 11:53 am

      I disagree with requiring service or a test to vote. ”

      Yes, asinine idea, and unconstitutional too.

      The Dems will then decide Republicans (who don’t believe in Democracy) should not vote.

    335. jason says:

      Here is what the Golden Calf should say whenever attacked by Trump.

      “Trump was a great President. He delivered for conservatives, minorities, the American people. He did what he said he would do. But he cannot be the face of the R party forever, we need to move forward, continue to build on his legacy, and beat the Democrats. That is what I propose to do”

    336. jason says:

      The reason Amoral Scumbag is advocating for a Golden Calf vs. Trump civil war is because he knows it would be fatal for both candidates and it would ensure his man Biden wins.

      No other reason.

    337. jason says:

      That is not to say the Golden Calf should allow himself to be defined by Trump like “Lil Marco” and “Lying Ted” were. He can defend his record vigorously without getting into the trenches with Trump.

    338. Tgca says:


      Empty words.

      Doesn’t say WHY DeSanctimonius should be the face of the GOP.

      Why not Haley as a minority woman or Scott as an AA male. Why shouldn’t they be the face of the GOP? They’d bring a bigger tent than DeSanctimonius who would not do as well with women or AA.

    339. Tgca says:


      Then they should be too young to join the military too then or be prosecuted for adult crimes…and definitely not mature enough to be imprisoned in dangerous jails

      You can die for your country but not vote in it?

      If you’re mature enough to handle guns, equipment, and kill people for your country, you’re mature enough to vote.

    340. Tgca says:


      …on 2nd thought, yes! Voting should be licensed accounting and finance professionals.

      Glad we settled that!

    341. Tgca says:


      DeSnctimonius CAN’T be a better Trump. He’s the cover band to the rock star at best.

      People see through phony…and he does have a likability problem just like Trump. He was not well-regarded by his peers in Congress and known to be a loner.

      It doesn’t matter any way. If DeSanctimonius enters the primary, there will be Civil War in the GOP. No ifs, buts, or ans about it.

      Millions of us will NEVER support DeSanctimonius against Trump or come out in the GE for him. He will then lose Big Time because the GOP can’t win without MI, PA, or WI and DeSanctimonius can’t compete in those states with so many MAGA loyalists.

      Moot argument.

    342. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca is opposed to ANY candidate except Trump getting the GOP nomination in 2024. Thousands of posts all boil down to that point.

    343. Phil says:

      Pretty much.

    344. Tina says:

      Getting ugly out there. Hiring Twitter rejects going full anti vax was not a good move. He needs to revamp his team too. Pushaw needs to be pushed out.

      2024 FL GOP Primary: Head-two-Head

      • Trump — 59% (+28)
      • DeSantis — 31%

      FL Atlantic University | RV | 04/14

    345. Tina says:

      Biden’s Beotch is sabotaging again.

      Joel Pollak

      claimed that
      joined Democrat leaders in taking default off the table. He did not say that; he said the U.S. would not default. But, as predicted,
      is already using him to pressure
      . Biden still refuses to negotiate.

    346. Marv says:


      I think the we should let this thread die and go over to Bitter’s HHR
      Phoenix site exclusively.

      Anybody else up for that yet?

    347. Bitterlaw says:

      I would not take to the lifeboat until HHR sinks and the site is easier to read.

    348. Tina says:

      Agreed, Marv. My last post here. Take care.

    349. jason says:

      I can’t even get someone to give me the website address.

      The address Bitter gave just shows a picture of buildings.

    350. Tgca says:


      GO! GTFOOH! Good riddance!

      I’ll be happy to be rid of you Bishes!

      I’m posting to myself because I want to get the last official HHR post.

    351. Tgca says:



      Trump’s unofficial official 2nd term.

      Would you have supported an open primary for Reagan or GWB in their 2nd term by their VP’s or other administrative appointees?

      Sorry! Loyalty matters to me but not so much to you I guess.

    352. Tgca says:

      352 Tina

      Maybe it’s just the peeps I know but they’re all abandoning DeSanctimonius because he’s tying himself to extremists and now he’s trying to hide his cronies and who he’s meeting with. This is unprecedented in Floreedah.

      He just signed a law that keeps secret all his public and travel records, including retroactively, and the law only applies to him, his staff, and people who travel on his behalf, and he’s claiming it’s for safety reasons. But these same exclusion rules will not apply to other Floreedah politicians. I guess their safety doesn’t matter.

      Glad to see his transparency.

      What a hypocritical phony!

      What is he hiding?

      Who is he meeting with?

    353. Marv says:


      I saw your posts over there before. If that wasn’t you, go to the site below and in the extreme lower right hand corner, create and account and login. Thein the upper left corner, click “Reader View” then on the left side of the page click “Conversations”

      Once logged in, you don’t have to type in you user name and password every time you want to post something…..unless you clear your caches on your device, the you have to login again.

    354. Tgca says:

      Thank God!

      Now Jadon can visit NYC with a sense of pride and dignity.

      Fat people will be protected from discrimination under law passed in New York as critics warn it opens door to ‘sue anyone and everything’

    355. MichiganGuy says:

      Marv, I think it would be a lot easier just to go to this link.

    356. Tgca says:

      Ha! Ha!

      Scaramucci calling Trump a bully and said if more and more senators stand up against Trump like Romney, then Trump will be like the wicked witch in The Wizard of Oz and melt away and then her minions (presumably like the STOOPID tens of millions of Trump supporters) will be glad to be rid of her and embrace the Rino or TDS candidate choice.

      Ain’t gonna happen! If Trump is not the nominee, the GOP has very little chance of winning the GE. Not one other Republican can do it.

      It’s 2016 all over again.

    357. Marv says:

      364 MichiganGuy,

      Yes, that will work too. One can create an account there too.

    358. Marv says:

      By my calculation, this thread will die on or about 29 May and the so will Hedgehog Report. Is that about right?

    359. Marv says:


    360. Tgca says:


      …and I will be the lone survivor.

      The last HHR poster evah!

      Like in the Twilight Zone with the last guy on earth and all his books…except I don’t wear glasses.

      …and like all good things, the TGCA era will have ended. The EXPERT in all things except all things gay for which I defer to LisaB will nevah be heard from again.

      I can hear the weeping now.

    361. Marv says:


      Are you not going to HHR Phoenix?

    362. Tgca says:

      370 Marv

      Nope! As I said weeks ago, all good things come to an end and time to move on. Life is full of change, hellos and good-byes bring joy and sadness but it’s a part of life. I’ve been expecting the demise of HHR for some time now.

      I’ve had the pleasure of seeing, knowing, and experiencing many things and I’ve never feared change so I will start a new chapter of life embracing politics and current events without all you losahs…um…I mean friends from HHR.

      I created a website to share info with friends the I used to do decades ago via daily emails until it became overwhelming. A range of topics from jokes, news, politics, pets, food, etc as folks had different interests.

      We spend a lot of time daily at HHR, reading and posting so I shall use that time in other hobbies.

      I see hours and hours of Sudoku and cryptograms in my future.

      …and jigsaw puzzles too. I loved doing them as a child and recently bought a couple.

    363. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Newsom is in trouble. It’s what happens when you spend like a drunk techie:

      “SACRAMENTO, Calif. —
      California’s budget deficit has grown to nearly $32 billion, Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Friday, saying the state’s challenges are partly due to high federal inflation rates and the state’s decision to let some people delay filing their taxes after winter storms.

      That’s about $10 billion more than Newsom predicted in January, when he offered his first budget proposal. The deficit is part of Newsom’s overall proposal for a $306 billion budget, by far the largest state budget in the nation.”

    364. jason says:

      I got in on the web address Michigan Guy gave.

      I see the second thread, but when I try to post it asks me for email and name and then the comment goes nowhere.

    365. Tgca says:


      Doesn’t matter! Newsom or another radical lefty will be elected in Caleefawnyuh.

      The state is lost. Until people stop electing lefties, nothing will change there. Nothing!

    366. Bitterlaw says:

      I don’t ban or filter posts. I would not know how to do it anyway. If Tcga wants to post, he can.

    367. jason says:

      I have tried deep sea diving, spelunking, prospecting for gold, stamp collecting, moose hunting, curling and ice fishing.

      Nothing beats HHR.

      Tgca won’t find anything more interesting to do.

    368. Bitterlaw says:

      Why doesn’t Jason go down to Oak Island and find the treasure?

    369. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Thein the upper left corner, click “Reader View” then on the left side of the page click “Conversations””

      Cow sees none of that.

      jason says:

      “I got in on the web address Michigan Guy gave.

      I see the second thread, but when I try to post it asks me for email and name and then the comment goes nowhere.”

      Cow sees non of that.

    370. Tgca says:


      Tgca won’t find anything more interesting to do.

      Evidently Jadon has not tried knitting.

    371. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Russian forces took a month to advance to the Khromove road. They lost their progress in a day.”

    372. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Being honest:

      “Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner forces that have led the campaign in the city, said in an audio message: “What Konashenkov described, unfortunately, is called ‘a rout’ and not a regrouping”.”

    373. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      In an average of six polls taken since April 18, only 35% of Americans said they approved of Biden’s handling of the issue of immigration, while 57% disapproved.

    374. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      382. “@DarthPutinKGB
      I am sad to announce Prigozhin’s very sad accident that happened tomorrow.”

    375. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Here is more information about the thug on the subway who died while being subdued by three passengers, including the marine who had him in a choke hold. From Victor Davis Hanson:

      “Neely had been arrested 42 times, including for lewd conduct, with three convictions for violent assaults.

      His forte was brutally punching random victims in the face, including a 67-year-old woman, and a 68-year-old Hispanic male.

      The news stories also neglected to mention that a black passenger helped subdue Neely.

      The public learned there might be other, as yet unreleased, videos of Neely earlier threatening commuters.”

      I would be curious to know if Neely was on drugs at the time, if so they may have played a contributing role in his death. Also was the prosecutor who brought charges against the marine the same clown who brought criminal charges against Trump?

    376. jason says:

      KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: “We know this president is not afraid to be really honest”

      Who knew?

    377. jason says:

      His forte was brutally punching random victims in the face, including a 67-year-old woman, and a 68-year-old Hispanic male.”

      According to Tgca and his MSM friends, Neely was just an benign ranter who never harmed a mouse on the subway, let alone people.

    378. jason says:

      only 35% of Americans said they approved of Biden’s handling of the issue of immigration,”

      Sorry, but 35% is not “only”, it is scary as heck.

      Over 1/3rd of Americans approve of open borders.

    379. jason says:

      Can anyone else see their post after they post it on the new site?

      I can only see mine if I log out and then log back in, and even then it shows as “Anonymous”

    380. jason says:

      Good for the Golden Calf:

      “We must defeat the Soros-Funded DAs, stop the Left’s pro-criminal agenda, and take back the streets for law abiding citizens. We stand with Good Samaritans like Daniel Penny. Let’s show this Marine… America’s got his back.”

    381. Tgca says:


      All valid points and a good reason to keep him off the streets but again, if he did not assault or attempt to assault anyone, which numerous reports of witnesses claim, there was no justification for the marine to physically assault him (from behind mind you) under the law and that’s what he will be faced with in court, as much of the victim’s past may be inadmissible because of irrelevance to that particular event.

      We do NOT have a vigilante justice system even though it’s romantic to think about it at times because it makes us feel good, myself included. Who doesn’t want to see a criminal get his due day but in this case, it is clear this guy was mentally disturbed as well and that may be a major factor in his behavior.

      The marine apparently used excessive force to strangle or choke a man to death, whatever the desired term may be, as the coroner already determined it was murder. That’s going to be his challenge to overcome in court, cutting off someone’s breathing for 3 minutes and causing their death is not something you can just dismiss lightly. Another life was taken.

      What a terrible mistake! Sad for both guys.

      I know something about this since a close family member killed someone years ago by intervening in a family physical dispute involving other family members using excessive force with a heavy blunt instrument. He went to prison for a short time even though it was not intentional and they were all teens drinking and getting high in a situation that got out of hand. He probably only got off with a light sentence because his age and they were all family partying together.

      Times have changed though and that event involved a fight that started where this event did not according to witness reports so this very white looking marine will probably face a jury with minorities in a city of 60% minorities.

      A white guy getting off for assaulting from behind and killing a mentally disturbed black guy is not going to play well and there will most likely be unconscious bias in the trial and outcome.

      Manslaughter 2 may be the best he can get.

    382. Tgca says:



      Your romanticism for vigilante justice will mean more deaths and violence, including for vigilantes who often get harmed in the process too.

      Our justice system is about the criminal action at hand and not trading it off for past crimes, as comeuppance justice.

      The guy should have been held accountable for his past actions but the marine had no way of knowing that and used deadly excessive force, no different than with George Floyd where the police officer was successfully prosecuted for murder.

      I guess if you’re ok with this justice then you’re ok with an orderly strangling a mentally disturbed patient in a mental hospital who acts out as well.

      What about bullies in high school? Would someone be justified in strangling to death a football team player who assaulted a geek, a well-known common occurrence in schools?

      See how that works?

    383. Tgca says:

      …and STOP with the BS about his military background. That has nothing to do with it. Big deal he served. That does not give him special privilege in the justice system, especially since we know that statistically military personnel have higher rates of criminal behavior than the general public.

      Again, romanticizing he’s a marine has nothing to do with his actions here.

      As far as we know, he could have been a great guy or the lowest of scumbags. His military service is irrelevant here. His actions are what he will be judged on.

      It’s a shame but I fear his life will take a turn for the worse at such a young age, and if convicted and imprisoned, he may be endangered.

    384. Bitterlaw says:

      I saw Jason’s post with the name Jason.

    385. Tina says:

      Phil, they are “ only” doing $1.2 billion to the grifter. At the same time, Xi Biden says we are about to default. And Biden’s Beotch will throw him a lifeline, even though Biden refuses to negotiate.

    386. Tgca says:


      Who is Jason?

    387. Tgca says:

      Funny! Great mocking of Anderson Cooper exposing his hypocrisy and self-righteousness.

    388. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 13, 2023 at 10:38 am

      I saw Jason’s post with the name Jason”

      It doesn’t show when I post it. I have to log out and log back in to see it.

    389. jason says:

      It wasn’t vigilante justice at all.

      The marine would be a hero for taking action and protecting all those people in any non-woke Soros funded DA jurisdiction.

    390. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      395. Germany also just approved another aid package to Ukraine:

      “Germany announces $2.9 billion military package for Ukraine with battle tanks, armored vehicles. The package includes 20 more Marder infantry fighting vehicles, 30 Leopard 1A5 main battle tanks, four IRIS-T SLM fire units for anti-aircraft defense and 12 IRIS-T SLS launchers, 18 howitzers, more than 100 armored combat vehicles, and over 200 reconnaissance drones that are to be provided, according to the report.”

    391. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 12, 2023 at 12:46 pm
      And when DeSantis finally gets in the race, he’s going to need to spend every ounce of his time and large war chest going after Trump.”


      He needs to promote himself, not alienate Trump voters.

      – Trump’s voters are unmovable. They’ll be for him until the end of time.

      DeSantis needs to focus on the 60% to 65% of the party who have expressed a desire to move on from Trump. That’s the group he needs to consolidate.

      In 20216, Cruz tried the strategy of embracing Trump while making the conservative case. It failed. Why go for “new Coke” when you can have the original?

    392. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 12, 2023 at 12:46 pm

      He should sell himself as better suited to deliver Trump’s policies.

      – This has been DeSantis’s strategy for the last four or five months. It hasn’t worked and it’s very unlikely to ever work for him or anyone else.

      This strategy requires DeSantis and the others to say “Trump was a good president, but he or she can do it better”. That’s not a winner because winning campaigns are about contrasts.

      In 2012, Mitt would have lost the nomination to Newt, Perry, or Santorum had he said they were all fine, but he was just better. Mitt won because he exposed the weaknesses of his rivals through negative advertising.

      Trump made it through the main parts of the 2016 primary without facing any kind of sustained, coordinated negative ad campaign by his opponents. There was an effort made in March 2016, but it was already too late.

      To beat Trump, DeSantis and the others will have to confront Trump. If that means his core 30% to 35% get upset, so be it. The other 60% to 65% are looking for alternatives. A campaign can’t be waged solely focused on the feelings of a minority block of voters.

    393. Tgca says:


      He is NOT a hero!

      He did no heroic deed. Where was the physical threat to him and others?

      All witness claims thus far say there was no assault by the homeless man. Yelling and screaming like a lunatic and telling folks he’s hungry is not a reason to assault a guy from behind and STRANGLE him to death.

      If that is your view of justice, then any loud mouth screaming out of control drunk can be justifiably strangled as well.

      Well thank God we have laws and those laws say you can’t just come up behind someone and strangle them to death.

      He is most likely going to jail, and justifiably so under our laws even though I think it’s horrible judgment call he made that has pretty much ruined his life. To set him free would set a horrible precedent. He will most likely have to do his time.

      …and for the record, any privately or military trained person with combat or fighting skills should know a 3-minute choke hold with extreme force will most likely lead to death.

    394. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 12, 2023 at 12:52 pm
      The reason Amoral Scumbag is advocating for a Golden Calf vs. Trump civil war is because he knows it would be fatal for both candidates and it would ensure his man Biden wins.

      No other reason.

      – No. The reason I’m advocating for a direct confrontation with Trump is that’s the only way to beat Trump. Giving him a free pass or saying he was good but someone else can do it better won’t work. That was the Cruz 2016 strategy. He lost.

      Trump isn’t going to fade away. His primary support isn’t going to collapse. He could be in prison and 35% will still vote for him. He won’t be beaten on policy either because his opponents agree with him on policy. This is all about persona and perceived toughness.

      The only way to beat Trump is to go after Trump. Otherwise, they’ll look weak. It may be messy, but primaries are often messy. GHWB pushed Reagan into April and May. Obama and Hillary fought into June.

      Trump’s core voters do not deserve special status. They’re not porcelain dolls who will break. The Trump coalition is not a winner. He’s driven away too many voters.

    395. Tgca says:


      So Wobbie thinks DeSanctimonius can win a GE by alienating 35% of the GOP and loyal Trump supporters in a closely divided nation?

      Good luck with that.

    396. Robbie says:

      And if the other Republican candidates fail to make the case that Trump can’t be the nominee in 2024 and roll over for him, then be prepared for Trump as the nominee in 2028 as well.

      Trump won’t go away until he’s been defeated. And the only way to defeat him is to go right after just like any other bully.

    397. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      May 13, 2023 at 2:43 pm

      So Wobbie thinks DeSanctimonius can win a GE by alienating 35% of the GOP and loyal Trump supporters in a closely divided nation?

      Good luck with that.

      – Yes. What the primary voters want is a winner. And if DeSantis goes out and definitely beats Trump, the primary voters will see DeSantis as a winner and vote for him. This is just what Donnie did in 2016.

      Might morons and frauds like you stay home? Sure, but for every Trump cult worshipper who stays home, DeSantis will bring back suburban voters to the party. And as every piece of data shows, suburban voters are regular voters unlike Trumpers. Better to have them in the fold every cycle than have to hope for 99% turnout in small counties.

      And frankly, the sooner the party gets rid of Tgca and his ilk, the better.

    398. Tgca says:


      Trump has driven away too many voters?

      DeSanctimonius just signed a law he pushed for that effectively bans ABORTION with its 6 week rule. How many women you think that’s going to drive away from voting GOP?

      He also just signed a law benefitting ONLY him and staff he designates but not other politicians that keeps all his travel and meeting records private going back to his 1st day in office in 2019.

      Since when do politicians craft laws and pass them to personally benefit ONLY themselves and not others?

      Why would a gubbernor craft a law for himself only to avoid Floreedah’s well-known transparency laws?

      What is he hiding! Who is he meeting with or sending his staff to meet with that he does not want the public to know about?

      You think this is going to attract voters to him?

      So as a candidate, he’ll go after the Biden family and their connections but won’t disclose his own connections?


    399. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      May 13, 2023 at 3:00 pm

      Trump has driven away too many voters?

      DeSanctimonius just signed a law he pushed for that effectively bans ABORTION with its 6 week rule. How many women you think that’s going to drive away from voting GOP?

      – You mean the guy who just won reelection by 20 points in Florida?

    400. Robbie says:

      I don’t know if Dave reads these comments, but I renew my request that he give administrative rights to this site to Bitter so we can continue using this forum.

      I appreciate what Bitter is trying to do with his site and will help financially, but this site is too good to pass up.

      I propose Bitter sets up a GoFundMe, we donate to it, and he uses that money to pay the bills to keep this bad boy running.

      If nothing else, can Dave tell who hosts this web domain and what program he used to build this site so we can recreate it?

    401. Tgca says:


      Your suburban voters fantasy is a joke. The suburbs are moving more left, not right. The Dems now outnumber the GOP and continue to rise in the suburbs while the GOP dominates rurally. More minorities are also relocating to suburbs.

      You think all those suburban women are going to look forward to DeSanctimonius pushing a national ABORTION ban?

      Over 20% of ABORTIONS are teen girls. You think those suburban moms are going to support a guy who will force their daughters to have babies or their sons to support them and give up their educational and career aspirations?

      You are clueless on demographics.

    402. Tgca says:


      You mean the guy who ran against the most unpopular FL politician of all time that even the Dems did not support him.

      2022 turnout was the lowest in like 8 years. 10% down from 2018, mostly Dems that stayed home.

      DeSanctimonius won by 19 points but probably would have been more like 12 points, still excellent but definitely skewed by Dems staying home.

      If you want proof of this, consider the UNKNOWN AG who won by 21 points, 2 more points than DeSanctimonius and got more votes than DeSanctimonius. Now how does that happen?

    403. Tgca says:

      …the GOP did great in 2020 and 2022 thanks to increasing voter registration.

      Rick Scott brought in roughly 800K GOP registered voters, the most ever of any GOP gubbernor, and DeSanctimonius brought in about 600K (mostly from Covid relocations).

      Many of the new FL registrants in 2020 and 2021 were because of Covid allowing people to work remotely. I knew a number of folks who left their high tax states to move to no-tax Floreedah to benefit and keep their higher paying salaries since Floreedah pays much less than many states.

      It will be interesting to see how many will leave Floreedah as companies slowly transition away from remote work. My guess is a lot of these folks will go back to NYC, PA, or NJ because you’re not gonna get jobs in Floreedah paying the same as the northeast but we will see.

      If you have an income of $150K to $300K, you can save up to $15K in taxes annually, as well as cost of living so that can add up to an extra $30K+ in your pocket as you keep your northeast salary.

    404. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – I appreciate the offer. It costs $48 per year. I can pay it. HHR and HHR Phoenix Edition are both WordPress platforms. If Dave wants to hand over the keys to HHR, I won’t be insulted.

    405. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Top 5 largest suppliers of tanks to #Ukraine

      1: Poland – ~325
      2: Germany – ~110
      3: The Netherlands – 85
      4: U.S. – 76
      5: Czechia – ~50

    406. Tina says:

      The race baiter bates at a black college. Storm front aka kaki feds appear. Lol.

      The gop house really needs to investigate.

    407. Tina says:

      Patriot Front aka khaki feds*

    408. Tina says:

      Hopefully moody charges Fraudci and charges the Biden’s. After all, some of the “transactions from the Ccp annd Ukraine and Romania came from companies based inFlorida.

      AG Ashley Moody
      ????BREAKING NEWS ????

      Fed judge denies DOJ’s “borderline frivolous” motion to stay order obtained by AG Moody to stop the mass release of illegal immigrants.

      is making “Chicken Little” arguments, the judge put the blame for the border crisis right where it belongs stating, “The situation DHS now finds itself in is effectively one of its own making.”

    409. SanDiegoCitizen says:


      Day 444 of my 3 day war. I warned UK that supplying Storm Shadow missiles would cause escalation so it’s their fault we have started shooting down our aircraft.

      I remain a master strategist.


      So, military analysts. We shot down an Su-34, then shot down the helicopter looking for the crew? Following that, we shot down an Su-35 then we shot down the helicopter looking for the crew…

      No panic though.”

    410. Phil says:

      Contributions to GiveSendGo legal fund for Daniel Penny just edged past 1.4 million bucks.

    411. Bitterlaw says:

      I think he used excessive force that killed a man. There should be a lesser charge under NewYork law but I’m not looking it up.

    412. Tgca says:

      Haven’t heard anything about this marine. He could be a great guy or a total douche. Hope it’s not the latter but assume it’s not.

      I’m sure he thought he was doing a good deed but deeds have consequences. From the video I saw and and witness reports, it appears he used deadly excessive force and since that resulted in a death, regardless if it was bad actor here, letting him off scott-free would be terrible precedence and a great injustice to the rule of law.

      Reckless behavior, no matter how good intended must have consequences or our society would be more chaotic than it already is.

      This is pretty much the same what happened to Floyd. Bad judgment plus excessive force caused a death that would otherwise not have occurred.

      It’s a no-win situation because many people will support him as a good samaritan while others will view him as scum of the earth for killing a mentally ill man.

    413. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      421. “I think he used excessive force that killed a man”

      Bitter, you can make the argument for involuntary manslaughter. But a good defense attorney might counter by showing the individual was under the influence of narcotics or substances that substantially contributed to his death, and that the marine,’s choke hold otherwise would not have been fatal to a normal person.

    414. JeffP says:

      A lot of questions regarding Trumps cancelled rally in Iowa yesterday. I think his poll numbers are soft.

    415. JeffP says:

      My take…There is no third candidate. Once DeSantis announces his poll numbers will surge in early primary states. I am convinced a majority of the GOP voters want to move on. They will eventually rally around a credible fighter like DeSantis. I think Trumps ceiling is around 40%.

    416. Bitterlaw says:

      SDC – Good point. But a good prosecutor could argue that he takes his “victim” as he finds him and does not excuse his actions. No chokehold. No death. It is like a case where a guy punches somebody once and that person falls and hits his head and dies. There was no mens rea to kill but the punch lead to the death.

      I don’t want his life ruined or him to spend years in prison. But a man is dead and that has consequences. His attorney will probably argue he was defending himself and others.

    417. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      426. A lot of good points Bitter. It would not surprise me if this one never gets to court. The marine may agree to pleading guilty on a lesser charge, with no jail time. If I was the prosecutor in this case, with all the outrage being expressed, my concern would be the trial might become a circus. I would not want to take this to court. The jury might not have much sympathy for a guy who punches old ladies in the face.

    418. Bitterlaw says:

      The defense prosecutor will fight like hell to keep out any prior actions of the guy who died. Unless the marine knew of those acts it is not relevant.

    419. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      426. “prosecutor could argue that he takes his “victim” as he finds him and does not excuse his actions.”

      I can see that argument working if the “victim” had a natural disability (like an “eggshell” skull). But someone who voluntarily took illegal narcotics that made him susceptible to dying in a chokehold, who would not otherwise have died, am not sure “take the victim as he finds him” rule applies.

    420. JeffP says:

      On Ukraine…just what I thought. A WEF project backed by compliant NATO countries. The Blackrock deal was the tell.

      I am not so sure Russia will back down on their Ukraine NATO red line. China is definitely positioning as their high tech military and BRICS are gaining strength. It would seem war is on the horizon.

      “Ukraine 2030 — the freest and most digital country in the world. Without bureaucracy, but with strong tech industry. Cashless & paperless. This is the future we are building.”

      – Mykhailo Fedorov

      These were the words of Ukraine’s Minister of Digital Transformation Mykhailo Fedorov, who posted a glossy video showcasing Ukraine’s sci-fi-esque future to Twitter. The video boasts of Ukraine’s plans (after its victory over Russia, of course!) to become the “freest and most convenient country in the next 10 years.”

      The WEF is your greatest threat to liberty not Putin. At least DeSantis understands this.

    421. jason says:

      that means his core 30% to 35% get upset, so be it. The other 60% to 65% are looking for alternatives.”


      No GOP candidate can win a GE without Trump’s base.

      Amoral Scumbag knows that.

    422. jason says:

      I am not so sure Russia will back down on their Ukraine NATO red line”

      Only the sniveling little Putin lapdogs care about what “Russia’s red line” is.

    423. jason says:

      Reason #689 for JeffP and the other Putin stooges to surrender Ukraine.

      A “minister of digital transformation” posted on Twitter what he thinks Ukraine will look like in 10 years.

      Can Putin have JeffP’s address so he can send him a KGB merit badge?

    424. jason says:

      “I think he used excessive force that killed a man”


      He used force as needed to subdue a violent perpetrator. As a result the perpetrator died, an unintentional consequence.

      The attacker was the one who put himself at risk of bodily harm. We have to stop coddling criminals or we are going to have a society where we always take their side against any kind of push back.

      We already see this in SF where they are saying you cannot defend property with deadly force.

      If someone can just attack people in the subway without fear of consequence then we might as well just hand over society to criminal syndicates and let them run the country.

    425. jason says:

      The defense prosecutor will fight like hell to keep out any prior actions of the guy who died.”

      BS. It is the prosecution that will fight like hell to do that.

      However, it is relevant because although the marine had no knowledge of it, it shows that this was not an isolated incident and it shows a pattern of behavior.

      The jury might use this information to understand this guy had to be stopped.

      Also, this guy was known to many subway riders. It is possible that some of the people who took action against DID know him or of him.

    426. jason says:

      You can contribute to his defense here.

    427. jason says:

      $1.5 million already raised.

      Warms your heart.

    428. jason says:

      I think Trumps ceiling is around 40%.”

      That is enough to win the nomination.

      Haley, Vivek, Scott and other candidates will get more than 10%.

      Not to mention many states winner takes all delegates. So 40% will win enough delegates even if the raw primary vote is 60% against Trump.

    429. jason says:

      “A straphanger who was on the subway when former Marine Daniel Penny placed Jordan Neely in a fatal chokehold said Thursday she’s ‘praying’ for Penny after it was revealed the 24-year-old would face charges tied to the high-profile case.

      ‘I hope he has a great lawyer, and I’m praying for him,’ the 66-year-old woman, who did not want to be identified, told The Post Thursday night. ‘And I pray that he gets treated fairly, I really do. Because after all of this ensued, I went back and made sure that I said ‘Thank you’ to him.’ …

      The subway rider said Neely, who had a history of mental illness, was threatening passengers after he hopped on an F train in Manhattan.

      ‘He said, ‘I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet, I’ll go to jail’ because he would kill people on the train,’ the woman said of Neely. ‘He said, ‘I would kill a motherf—er. I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet. I’ll go to jail.’’

      The retiree said Penny did not initially engage with Neely during the wild rant until things got out of hand and he felt the urge to step in.

      ‘This gentleman, Mr. Penny, did not stand up,’ the rider said. ‘Did not engage with the gentleman. He said not a word. It was all Mr. Neely that was … threatening the passengers. If he did not get what he wants.’

    430. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “I am not so sure Russia will back down on their Ukraine NATO red line””

      I am not sure the Russians will be in the position to demand anything. Putin’s military spent 10 months focused on taking the city of Bakhmut. They were unsuccessful,and now are in retreat in what a Russian mercenary general has referred to as a “rout”.

      Then there is Putin’s laughable Victory Day celebration, with it’s now famous one old tank, and Putin’s fear of any sort of major public attendance. Putin looked old and feeble.

      The fact Russia has managed to shoot down two of its own fighter jets and helicopters is almost comical.

      In my view it’s time to supply Ukraine with F-16 fighter jets. Give Ukraine the modern weapons needed to win.

    431. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      439. The fact that Neely is being prosecuted for potentially saving lives is pathetic. Good luck getting a jury to convict him. Oh and it appears that
      those willing to testify in his defense represent many demographic groups.

    432. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The U.S. announced a $1.2 billion dollar aid package to Ukraine; Germany just announced a $3 billion dollar aid package:

      “Germany will provide Ukraine with additional military aid worth nearly $3 billion, including tanks, anti-aircraft systems and ammunition, the government said Saturday.

      The announcement came on the eve of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s first visit to Germany since Russia invaded his country last year.”

    433. gameboy says:

      So another 4.2 billion? By the time the big guy gets his 10% cut along with the amount that will go into Zelensky and his cronies personal bank accounts there might be enough left over for 3 or 4 rusty WW II era tanks to be brought to the battle. What a joke LOL

    434. Phil says:


      SDC, I wish you were right but considering the jury pool there I’m not optimistic. Combine that with the threats of the race baiters threatening to burn the city to the ground if there is no conviction I’m say the accused has a slim chance at best. Chances of the jury defying the mob? Not good at all.

      BTW, the guy’s defense fund will hit two million before the day is out at the pace the $$ is rolling in.

    435. Tgca says:

      SDC’ man crush moved from fascist Zelenskyy to the killing marine.

      Sorry! The jury has to look at the facts and not emotions about crazies on city subways. Witnesses are going to be asked what they saw and not how they feel. A good prosecutor will make a witness fawning over the marine look bad and unreliable in court.

      The jury will be instructed to follow the facts and not the emotions…and unfortunately, there will probably be bias against a blonde white dude strangling a mentally ill homeless black male.

      If the homeless man was ranting and raving but not assaulting or attempting to assault anyone, and the marine assaulted him from behind and held him down in a chokehold for 3 minutes that led to his death, that’s HOMICIDE!

      Plain and simple! His military status has nothing to do with it. For all we know, he can be a radical lefty so his personal politics or career does not matter.

      The homeless guy would be alive if not for the actions of the marine. Silly arguments about the homeless man’s health or drugs have nothing to do with it. If you put a 95 year-old on heart medication in a chokehold for 3 minutes, you don’t get to argue it was not your fault they died because they were old and sickly. Retarded logic!

      Do we really want a society where men go around strangling crazies for yelling on public transportation?

      Sorry! Unless evidence surfaces otherwise, if these reports are true, the marine should be held accountable, convicted and sentenced. Manslaughter 2 sounds about right to me given the circumstances.

    436. Phil says:

      Is there a Soros foundation fund you’d like to plug while you’re at it.

    437. Phil says:

      Nice race baiting speech at Howard yesterday by our dementia in chief. The great United strikes again.

    438. Tgca says:

      By the way, the marine intervening does NOT make him a hero.

      I’ve done this twice in San Francisco and have seen other guys do it as well over the years.

      Once a crazy younger dude was at the bus stop yelling at an elderly Asian couple, probably in their late 70s or 80s, and invading their space and intimidating them and they were clearly frightened. I went over, and in my deepest manly voice, yelled at him and told him to back off using sone choice words I can’t get through HAL at HHR. Like many street crazies, he look at my awesome muscular physique because I was built like a brick house then, and back down with some STOOPID crazy talk that had nothing to do with the elderly couple and walked away. I did not seek gratitude and simply asked the old couple if they were ok and then waited there with them for the bus. End of story! Part of the BS you have to deal with living in big cities with poor homelessness management. Though I’m a bit perturbed this old couple clearly forgot me in their will because that was like 20+ years ago and I doubt they’re around these days.

      I similarly had an experience with my BF in 2000, as we were leaving a local restaurant and a homeless crazy was berating and threatening another homeless guy who routinely slept in that area and did not bother anyone. I intervened and told him to back off in my BOOMING manly voice, and again, he coward out and backed off, ranting some crazy azz chit and luckily a police car was passing and I waved it down and they took over.

      Often these crazies look for vulnerable people they can intimidate or just act out at but often back down when challenged. Some don’t of course but I saw this chit on a daily basis in both NYC and San Francisco for over 2 decades.

      My intervention NEVER led me to assault someone, and had I done so unprovoked, and caused them harm, I would’ve been at fault no matter how much of a do-gooder I or others thought I was.

      So as someone who has had routine experience with these crazies, as they lived in and around my neighborhood, I don’t feel sorry for them but I also know you don’t assault them as a 1st line of defense in dealing with their crazy azz outbursts.

      I’ve had my fair share of arguments with these street crazies and them threatening me and EVERY single time they backed down when challenged back. The streets are full of them ranting and raving.

      I’m not a hero for intervening even though my BF felt the need to show his gratefulness for my intervention that night, and men often intervene this way in cities, as I’ve seen. It’s the right thing to stand up for others when possible but you must know your limits and have self-control. It’s not Heroic but simply the decent thing to do.

      Perhaps the marine and 2 other guys could have handled the situation differently but they did not.

    439. Tgca says:

      446 Phil

      Nah! I’ll let you give your money to the white supremacist groups in TX you so much embrace.

      I’m a retiree on a fixed income so giving to Soros means less tofu.

    440. PresidentPaul! says:

      Trump pledges to bring back Mike Flynn!

      Of course we all know which side controls the voting machines/process so that might actually be unlikely.

    441. Tgca says:

      BTW, I’m not suggesting people challenge every crazy ranting and raving lunatic out there. Just ignore them when you can but if they get in your space and threaten you, you have the right to push back on them but I would ALWAYS suggest, NEVER escalate it to the point where you have to throw the 1st punch because that’s where you become the aggressor.

      Anyone riding NYC or San Francisco transportation routinely learned to accept this BS as part of living in the Big City just like we accept other undesirable things there.

    442. PresidentPaul! says:

      Mike Flynn should be shot.

    443. PresidentPaul! says:

      It wasn’t CIA retirees that banded together to take down Trump.

      It was the CIA itself working to take down Trump and elect demented Joe as the US president!

    444. PresidentPaul! says:

      name thief

    445. Tina says:

      Race baiter race baits.

      And the Patriot front aka Fib recruit front march in Dc.

      How convenient?

    446. Tgca says:

      I just saw stories on Jordan Neely arrest record. People here claiming it’s excessive and it is but the vast majority, except for 3 were minor local ordinances like open liquor container in public, trespassing and loitering, subway turnstile violation, etc.

      These are typical with homeless and the frequency of occurrences are not substantial in comparison to other homeless living on the streets for 10+ years as Neely.

      Not defending him but trying to set the record straight about these gross exaggeration of his criminal past which are meant to paint him in a bad light.

      He was a mentally disturbed man that should have not even out there but he was due to the failure of the homeless and healthcare policies in a big city for a kid dumped from the foster care system upon adulthood after he was

      You can’t always help all these people, especially if they’re not cooperative.

      This is a sad unfortunate situation for both Neely and the marine. No one wins here. Two lives destroyed or forever altered in a bad way.

    447. Tgca says:

      I think this post on Neely’s chokehold was from a medical professional and what you will expect to see in court testimony from medical professionals that will reflect badly on the marine.

      I doubt they will find any medical experts to effectively rebut any of this…

      …though SDC and Phil can be called as “emotional” witnesses to claim…

      …”but…but…but…he was yelling and in essence committed suicide because of his prior health and drug use because having no oxygen to their brain or lungs for 3 minutes is no big deal for most people” …

      …with SDC adding that the marine was too cute to be a murderer…

      …and Phil nodding in agreement not to forget “white marines only kill people who deserve it.”

      There are many ways to restrain an individual or neutralize a threat.
      We have no firm account of Neely’s actions before the contact.
      I’ve watched the video. In the “sleeper ” hold, the carotids are compressed by the holder’s biceps and forearm, and blood flow to the brain is stopped, and the holdee loses consciousness in seconds. And can revive if the hold is released.
      With sufficient force, for sufficient time, blood flow to the brain and air flow to the lungs are occluded.
      What you see in the video is an individual not just restrained, but deprived of two vital necessities of life. The movements that he makes are the flailing of a dying brain, and then the final agonal breath and dying twitch.
      The length of time, and the force applied, imply to me more than a mere restraint.

    448. Tgca says:

      I think this post about Neely deserving what he got was from Phil because the poster posted with initials “PC.”

      Didn’t know Phil was so handy with a knife but we learn so much from the internet I tell ya.

      4 May, 2023

      so the threat is allowed to potentially kill you while you aren’t allowed to kill the threat? this country is weak! the guy was headlocked like what you see in wrestling…if that was me, I would have cut his throat and walked away with threats like that. THE ONLY CASUALTY ACCEPTED SHOULD BE THAT OF THE ASSAILANT.

    449. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 13, 2023 at 4:14 pm
      Robbie – I appreciate the offer. It costs $48 per year. I can pay it

      – I know, but I feel like, after 19 years, this is OUR site and I just want to help keep it that way.

    450. Robbie says:

      JeffP says:
      May 14, 2023 at 8:12 am
      My take…There is no third candidate. Once DeSantis announces his poll numbers will surge in early primary states. I am convinced a majority of the GOP voters want to move on.

      – I think DeSantis will benefit from a polling bump after his announcement. That’s how it worked for Rubio, Jeb, and the others in 2015. The challenge for DeSantis is to make sure the bump doesn’t become a blip.

      So long as Trump’s on the scene, the game has been changed. Candidates will have to campaign in June and July of this year like it’s late January before the Iowa caucuses.

    451. Marv says:

      Has anyone offered Dave to assume the responsibility for operating and maintaining this site as is?

    452. Bitterlaw says:

      435 Unless the Marine knew of the guy’s pattern of past behavior, it is not relevant. Now, if he rode this subway and observed him in the past acting in a menacing fashion, it could be relevant.

      Jason, with no training in criminal law, no experience in writing jury instructions, and no trial experience to make definitive statements in 3…2…1…

      I think he was overcharged and am fine if he is found not guilty.

    453. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 14, 2023 at 9:22 am
      that means his core 30% to 35% get upset, so be it. The other 60% to 65% are looking for alternatives.”


      No GOP candidate can win a GE without Trump’s base.

      – The primary? Yes, a candidate can win without Trump’s worshippers.

      The general? Maybe and maybe not. Hopefully, we get the chance to find out. Obama didn’t worry about the PUMA’s in 2008 although this forum was convinced they would give McCain the win. LOL.

      Candidates can’t run their campaigns worried about Trump cultists. The way things work is the candidates that trail attack the leader. Those who don’t try and take down the leader aren’t truly interested in winning. Think Nikki Haley.

      Trump and his worshippers are about 35% of the party. That’s it. It’s time to stop treating them like they are some mythical group that never loses. All they’ve done since 2016 is produce losers for Republicans.

    454. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 14, 2023 at 9:51 am
      I think Trumps ceiling is around 40%.”

      That is enough to win the nomination.

      – In a multi candidate field like we saw in 2016, it is enough to win. That’s why Trump got Vivek Ramaswamy to run and say nice things about him. To split the vote. I’m sure they’ll be a nice ambassadorship in it for Vivek for his troubles if Trump somehow wins (spoiler: he won’t).

      That’s also why Nikki Haley is running as well. She knows if she does just well enough, she can block DeSantis from beating Donnie. And her hope is Trump will reward her with the VP slot. Notice Haley won’t say anything about anything about Trump. She knows Trump won’t win, but she thinks the VP slot will set her up to be the frontrunner in 2028. The problem for her is Donnie’s going to run again in 2028.

      And frankly, I wouldn’t put it past Tim Scott to do something similar. He won’t say anything about Trump either so I’m sure he’d be more than fine to be Trump’s VP if it set him up to be the frontrunner in 2028.

      Already, it’s evident several candidates are looking past 2024 to 2028 and it’s only 2023.

    455. Robbie says:

      Marv says:
      May 14, 2023 at 2:06 pm
      Has anyone offered Dave to assume the responsibility for operating and maintaining this site as is?

      – I believe Bitter raised the possibility with Dave, but didn’t get a firm answer one way or the other.

    456. jason says:

      Trump still has 80%+ approval from Republicans.

      No candidate is going to win the GE without Trump’s base.

      The 35%-40% is his solid voting base. His approval among Rs is much higher.

    457. jason says:

      That is enough to win the nomination.

      – In a multi candidate field like we saw in 2016, it is enough to win”

      Nah, you don’t need 17 candidates.

      Even about 5 is enough for Trump to win.

    458. Marv says:

      #465 Robbie,

      Thanks. It would be nice to be able to maintain this site somehow.
      I, personally, have no idea how to do that.

    459. Marv says:


      Did Dave ever respond to your inquiry about you operating this site as is?

    460. Tgca says:

      469 Marv

      Doubtful Dave would turn it over because it has his personal URL assigned to the HHR site:

    461. Tgca says:

      For the pastry lovers at HHR.

    462. Marv says:

      #470 Tgca,

      Copy that, thanks.

    463. Tina says:


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    464. Tina says:

      Jus use bl’s site.

      Quit beotching about Wissing. He gave it up. He got tired.

      I don’t blame him.

    465. Tgca says:

      RINOs Hogan and Christi try to explain away Trump’s successful CNN Townhall and both take shots at DeSanctimonius too with Hogan saying:

      DeSanctimonius is trying to outTrump Trump and saying it won’t work because why would you settle for Robin when you got Batman.

      This is EGGZACTLY what I expect from many GOP leaders and pundits, to demonize Trump as a drag on the GOP and DeSanctimonius the wrong guy who is so extreme he’ll never get support past the base …and he won’t even get all them after his war with Trump.

    466. Robbie says:

      Josh Kraushaar
      NEW @axios Sunday Sneak: “The GOP’s shrinking Senate map”

      “The prospect that Trump will lead the GOP presidential ticket could jeopardize purple-state opportunities in 2024.”

      – MAGA continues to be the best thing that ever happened to Democrat electoral chances.

    467. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 14, 2023 at 2:27 pm
      Trump still has 80%+ approval from Republicans.

      – Plenty of people viewed Trump’s presidency as good because they liked the policy achievements. However, they want nothing to do the with conman Donnie anymore.

      Kowtowing to a group of voters who have done continuous harm to the party over the last seven years is ridiculous. It’s time for the party to stop running scared of people who stuck us with Oz, Walker, Masters, Lake, and the rest of the MAGA 2022 losers who blew unlosable races.

    468. PresidentPaul! says:

      The fact that Deepstate conspired to take down a sitting president proves once again that Trump is the rightful US president and not Joe Biden.

    469. Robbie says:

      Watching the election results in Turkey. Pretty clear Erdogan has failed to get over 50%. That’s a good thing. At a minimum, he’s headed to a runoff. It’s possible the opposition will clear the 50% mark in the first round and win outright.

      There are about 10 million votes from areas that strongly support the opposition that have yet to be counted. Erdogan has asked for 11 recounts as a way to delay the totals from being added to the official count.

      Erdogan is clearly setting the stage to claim the vote was rigged and stolen from him. Now, the question is whether the authoritarian Erdogan will follow the wannabe authoritarian Trump’s playbook and claim victory before all the votes are counted so he can say anything that comes after is fake.

    470. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – Dave did not respond to keeping HHR under new ownership. Use my site even though it sucks. Or start your own. I’m the only one trying to keep it going. Enough bitching.

    471. jason says:

      Kowtowing to a group of voters who have done continuous harm to the party over the last seven years is ridiculous”

      As opposed to fake Rs like you who support Biden?

      Thanks, I will go with the Trump voters, who actually picked a winning candidate.

    472. jason says:

      No wonder JeffP is triggered with this latest “escalation”

      “The Russian Air Force appears to have had one of its worst days of the war in more than a year on Saturday. While details remain limited and are likely to change, it appears Russia lost two Mi-8 Hip helicopters, a Su-34 Fullback strike fighter, and a Su-35 Flanker-E, with no survivors. What makes all this especially troubling for the Russian Air Force, is that all these losses happened in its own country, in areas not too far from the border with Ukraine.

      All four aircraft came down in Bryansk Oblast, well within Russian territory opposite northeast Ukraine’s Chernihiv Oblast. Video shows one of the Mi-8s breaking up after what looks as if a missile hits it near the town of Klintsy, about 50 kilometers north of the Ukrainian border”

    473. PresidentPaul! says:

      a href=””>Why E-Verify may actually be used to abuse conservatives voters rather than affect or stop illegal immigration.

    474. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “In response to the death of a mentally distressed man on the New York subway, Adams is embracing a solution once considered a more extreme conservative position: involuntary commitment to psychiatric treatment facilities.

      “It is time to build a new consensus around what can and must be done for those living with serious mental illness and to take meaningful action despite resistance and pushback from those who misconstrue our intentions,” Adams said during a press conference about Jordan Neely, who was subdued by fellow passengers before dying in custody.

      “I want to say upfront that there were many people who tried to help Jordan get the support he needed,” Adams continued. “But the tragic reality of severe mental illness is that some who suffer from it are at times unaware of their own need for care.”

      Neely was reportedly well-known to New York’s homeless service providers and topped an internal list of those most in need of intervention.

      However, the mayor’s support for involuntary commitment was met with immediate backlash from groups like the New York Civil Liberties Union.

      “In the name of Jordan Neely, Mayor Adams is again responding to homelessness and unmet mental health need with the failed approaches of force and coercion,” said Donna Lieberman, director of the NYCLU.”

    475. Tgca says:

      NH Gubberbor calls the NH audience, people who probably voted for him, EMBARRASSING!

      He also called Trump a loser and blames Trump for NH losing in 2022 midterms.

    476. Tgca says:


      NYC is not the only place with these homeless that are mentally disturbed. Every big city has these and many smaller cities too.

      We have them all over the place in Floreedah too. We don’t have mass transportation like they do in NYC or San Francisco because most people in Floreedah drive so you don’t hear altercations about it as much but they’re all over the place sleeping and sprawling out at strip malls, beaches, bus stops.

      I’ve never seen as many homeless in Floreedah than I’ve seen in the last year, and it’s clear they are not mentally stable.

      So it’s not just a Caleefawnyuh or NYC thing. It’s all over the place and it’s grown exponentially here in Floreedah under DeSanctimonius who has done NOTHING to address it.

    477. jason says:

      The Republican party is now a populist working class based party.

      It’s not my party and it does not represent a lot of my views but if it wants to survive and be competitive that is its path.

      The sooner the Republican elites come to term with that fact the better.

      Otherwise it is headed for extinction.

    478. Tgca says:

      BTW, notice Sununu does an interview with MSNBC Jen Psaki and was her useful idiot agreeing with her loaded questions because they targeted Trump.

      MSM looks for RINOS and TDS GOPers like Sununu, Hogan, Christie, Romney, etc because it’s part of their strategy.

      All they want to talk about is 2020 election, J6, and the NYC rape trial. They don’t want to talk about 2024 or Biden and these STOOPID GOPers buy into it.

      Sununu also predicted more Trump indictments as another reason he is a loser.

    479. Tgca says:


      Both parties have changed dramatically the last 10 to 15 years.

      If the GOP does not stand and fight, the Dems will win – not because of the Dem messaging – but because the Dems have succeeded in capitalizing with MSM, Big Tech, Courts, and the Deep State doing their bidding.

      The GOP only has the people on its side and DC elites took care of that by ensuring any mass protests will be met with trumped up charges (pun intended) to disrupt and destroy protestor lives.

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    481. jason says:

      MAGA continues to be the best thing that ever happened to Democrat electoral chances”

      – Hillary Clinton

    482. jason says:

      Jason, with no training in criminal law, no experience in writing jury instructions, and no trial experience to make definitive statements in 3…2…1…

      I think he was overcharged and am fine if he is found not guilty.”

      So much wrong with this, hard to know where to start.

      In the first place, “fine if he is found not guilty” is the usual Bitter playing both sides. It should be “I would be outraged if this hero is found guilty in a kangaroo court”.

      Second, you don’t have to be a lawyer specialized in worker’s comp to know what “excessive force” is.


    483. jason says:

      Marv will be excited.

      “Former Governor of Texas and Trump Administration Energy Secretary, Rick Perry, revealed today he was considering a run for the Presidency in 2024. He made it clear it was still early in the process, but he had not ruled out the possibility of jumping in the race.”

      I used to be a big fan of Rick Perry. He was a great governor of Texas. I met him several times, campaigned for him, donated to him. A good man.

      But the Peter Principle caught up to Rick.

      He has the same chance of getting the nomination as Amoral Scumbag voting for the Golden Calf.


    484. jason says:

      New York Post agrees charges against Neely are politics, not justice.

    485. Bitterlaw says:

      Irony Meter explodes as Jason claims the prosecution is based on politics and not justice but then a conclusion against it based on his politics rather than justice.

      I will leave it to criminal lawyers to debate the meaning of excessive force. I don’t defer to international businessmen or llama lovers on the issue.

    486. Bitterlaw says:

      New thread at the lifeboat. I think.

    487. Bitterlaw says:


    488. DW says:

      497 – I keep saying jason that this is a hugely winning issue for the GOP. Dems are anti-science, pro-mutilation of children, and pro-destruction of women’s sports.

    489. PresidentPaul! says:

      “The Biden administration is launching a new initiative to train the public on how to spot ‘radical’ conservatives and fight ‘domestic terrorism.'”

    490. Phil says:

      The Daniel Penny on line legal defense fund has just blown past 2 million bucks – over 42,000 donors. I’d say his legal team now has working money.

    491. jason says:

      I will leave it to criminal lawyers to debate the meaning of excessive force”


      We can debunk that lie very quickly.

      “I think he used excessive force that killed a man”

    492. jason says:

      The problem is not money… it is politics.

      But having a good legal team might help on appeal once the case gets out of NYC.

    493. jason says:

      I keep saying jason that this is a hugely winning issue for the GOP. Dems are anti-science, pro-mutilation of children, and pro-destruction of women’s sports.”

      You would think. But unfortunately there will be people actually running on a pro-mutilation platform/pro biological males in women’s sports who will win. Many in fact.

    494. Bitterlaw says:

      He was alive when the chokehold started. He was dead when it ended. Jason leaves that part out. Excessive? We’ll see. I’m not one of the lawyers, judge or jurors.

    495. jason says:

      but then a conclusion against it based on his politics rather than justice.”

      Nah. Nothing to do with “my politics”.

      You have a perpetrator with a long history of assault threatening to kill passengers on the subway.

      ‘He said, ‘I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet, I’ll go to jail’ because he would kill people on the train,’ the woman said of Neely. ‘He said, ‘I would kill a motherf—er. I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet. I’ll go to jail.’’

      The retiree said Penny did not initially engage with Neely during the wild rant until things got out of hand and he felt the urge to step in.

      ‘This gentleman, Mr. Penny, did not stand up,’ the rider said. ‘Did not engage with the gentleman. He said not a word. It was all Mr. Neely that was … threatening the passengers”

      The marine took appropriate action given a death threat. Along with other passengers he restrained the perpetrator. As an unintended consequence the perpetrator died while being restrained from killing people, which by his own words he intended to do.”

      I guess it is “my politics” that makes me think if you are threatened with being killed on the subway you should take action to prevent it.

    496. jason says:

      There is no manslaughter in the second degree.


      Second Degree when that person recklessly causes the death of another person.

      A person acts RECKLESSLY with respect to a death when that person engages in conduct which creates or contributes to a substantial and unjustifiable risk that another person’s death will occur, and when he or she is aware of and consciously disregards that risk, and when that risk is of such nature and degree that disregard of it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of conduct that a reasonable person would observe in the situation”

      Where is the proof that the marine “was aware and consciously disregards that risk” and were is the “gross deviation that a reasonable person would observe in the situation”?

    497. jason says:

      He was alive when the chokehold started. He was dead when it ended. Jason leaves that part out.”


      He was threatening to kill the other passengers.

      Bitter leaves that part out because it doesn’t fit his narrative.

    498. jason says:

      We’ll see. I’m not one of the lawyers, judge or jurors”


      Another strong statement of support for woke DAs and kangaroo courts.

    499. jason says:

      Bitter pretends to believe in the justice system, but he already tried and convicted Penny by stating that he used “excessive force”.

      What exactly is “excessive force” when dealing with a raving lunatic threatening to kill people?

      The hypocrisy is astounding.

    500. jason says:

      Maybe Bitter wouldn’t be so far to condemn Penny if his daughter had been on the train. It is easy to be dismissive of threats when they are made against some anonymous victims.

    501. jason says:

      So fast, no so far.

    502. Bitterlaw says:

      Since Jason will not dare to be in a city or on a subway, he won’t be faced with such a situation.

    503. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason wants to be a lawyer. He’s not. Both can be true.

    504. Tgca says:

      I bet Jadon has NEVER ridden NYC subways. There are crazies threatening all the time. It’s par for the course in public transportation in NYC. I experienced that for years working abd visiting NYC.

      Same for the Black activists that stand on soap boxes on 34th Street and 8th Ave calling for taking out the White Man.

      Unless you are being physically assaulted, you have NO right to escalate it to an attack which is what the marine did.

      If you were in a bar, restaurant, gym, store, or on the street and some guy threatened to beat your azz and then you assaulted him, you would be arrested for assault, not him.

      That’s the way our law works. You can’t assault someone because they’re ranting and raving even if it’s directed at you. This happens everyday in society where people freak out at one another.

    505. Tgca says:

      I guess Jadon would be fine if this was a 5 foot tall 110 pound woman doing the same thing on the train as the homeless guy.

      Jadon would be fine with a guy of the marine’s stature assaulting her from the back and putting her in a chokehold and strangling her to death.

      Same with a 14-year old girl. Jadon would be fine with a marine assaulting her from the back and strangling her to death because she’s a PERCEIVED threat.

      Jadon is making EMOTIONAL arguments, not legal ones and sounds like the people who think Trump should go to jail because it’ll make them feel better, only it’ll make Jadon feel better in the marine is let free.

    506. Tgca says:

      …and STOP with the victims past history because over 90% of the arrests were for violating low level local ordinances that the majority of homeless get cited or arrested for like jumping subway turnstiles, drinking alcohol in public, urinating in public, loitering, trespassing, etc.

      …and the marine had NO WAY of knowing about these past events either so he can’t claim history as an excuse for his actions as a PERCEIVED threat unless he knew the homeless man.

      Sorry! I feel bad for the marine’s bad judgment but he violated the law and used excessive lethal force that took the life of another because it takes quite a bit if force to cause the effect he did and he should be held accountable for his actions!

    507. Tgca says:

      Jadon is inconsistent when he claims the police in George Floyd’s death should be held accountable for his death but in nearly an exact analogous situation with less information on the victim (the police knew Floyd was a violent offender with a past history whereas the marine had no such information to draw a conclusion on risk with the homeless victim) he excuses the marine away for killing an innocent man.

    508. Bitterlaw says:

      In PA, tomorrow is Primary Day. In Philadelphia, it is effectively General Election Day. Too many Democrat candidates divided among those relatively sane (for Democrats) to possibly stop radical leftist, Helen Gym (pronounced “Gimm”). Gym is endorsed by AOC and Sanders.

      Sane candidates are business owner, Alan Domb (the condo king), pro-police black woman, Cherelle Parker, and financial expert, Rebecca Rinehart.

    509. Bitterlaw says:

      Primary turnout in off year elections is generally low. So the next Mayor could be elected with 30% of the 30% who vote tomorrow.

    510. jason says:

      for killing an innocent man.”


    511. jason says:

      I won’t be voting in PA’s fake primary election.

    512. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 15, 2023 at 10:52 am

      Since Jason will not dare to be in a city or on a subway”

      Zzzzzzz…. I have lived and worked in a lot more dangerous places than Bitter who lives safely in Radnor and scurries from the parking lot to his office a few days a week.

      This is not rocket science. You can hide behind “I am a lawyer, I know more” but you can either take the side of the guy who heroically intervened to save people from death threats and bodily harm by a lunatic with 40+ prior arrests or you can side with the criminal.

      You made your choice, I made mine.

    513. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe the primary is fake in the Middle of Nowhere. Here in the civilized part of the state there are Republicans running for the GOP nominations in local and state offices.

    514. jason says:

      adon is inconsistent when he claims the police in George Floyd’s death should be held accountable”

      Zzzzz.. the police had ample resources and training to subdue George Floyd, and George Floyd was not threatening a bunch of people in a closed environment from which they could not escape.

      Horrible analogy fit for a clown like Tgca.

    515. Bitterlaw says:

      Badass Jason also made a choice to hide in a boring place more than a decade ago. I would still rather be shot and bleed out on a sidewalk than live where Jason lives for a week.

    516. jason says:

      I guess Jadon would be fine if this was a 5 foot tall 110 pound woman doing the same thing on the train as the homeless guy.”

      Yes, I would be in favor of having her subdued if she was threatening the life of other passengers.

      But maybe in her case a choke hold would not be needed.

      Any more hypothetical situations to distract from the fact Neely was a real threat?

      “Same with a 14-year old girl”

      Maybe not. If she seemed physically incapable of doing bodily harm or killing anyone and was not armed I would not favor placing her in a choke. hold.

    517. Bitterlaw says:

      I said that he was overcharged and I am fine with a not guilty verdict. Jason’s manufactured outrage is hollow coming from a place more boring than Phil’s bunker.

    518. jason says:

      Badass Jason also made a choice to hide in a boring place more than a decade ago.”

      I am not hiding. I still travel to a lot of places you are scared of going to.

      I did not grow up in or lead a sheltered life like you did (and do).


    519. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason better get in the lifeboat soon. The invitation to Parc is only open if he can be contacted.

    520. jason says:

      I said that he was overcharged and I am fine with a not guilty verdict.”

      Nah. You took his side and said he used excessive force.

      Then you tried to backtrack with the “I will let the criminal lawyers” decide, but it was too late.

      Stop lying.

    521. Bitterlaw says:

      Hey, Jason’s Ma! I hit a nerve.

    522. jason says:

      You took Neely’s side that should read.

    523. jason says:

      The new site doesn’t work for me.

      I cannot see my posts unless I sign out and sign in again.

      I guess the A-hole wants to get rid of me.


    524. jason says:

      Tgca and Bitter have the same stupid opinion. Not a surprise.

      Tgca always takes the far left view. Bitter always wants to be on the fence and not stand for anything.

    525. Bitterlaw says:

      The guy is dead. Death seems excessive. That does not mean the Marine is guilty of what he is charged with. Since I said he was overcharged, it means I don’t agree with the charges. Sorry I don’t speak Qu’chua to make it easy for Jason.

    526. Bitterlaw says:

      Marv, Tina, Phil, and DW have all posted. When you log in, you don’t have to keep typing in handle and e-mail.

    527. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe Jason can go to Google University Law School like lisab.

    528. Bitterlaw says:

      There is an HHR Phoenix post by Anonymous. It may be Jason. Or not.

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    531. Tina says:

      Looks like a total witch-hunt.

    532. Phil says:

      Daniel Penny on line defense fund currently sitting at north of $2,235,000. In excess of 46,350 donors. Should be pushing three million $$ by end of the day tomorrow.

      By midnight tonight will be looking at around $2.4 mil and around probably around 48,000 donors.

    533. Phil says:

      Four Russian aircraft shot down over Russia in a matter of minutes. Interesting.

    534. Tgca says:

      Jadon clearly has NEVER ridden public transportation in cities like NYC or San Francisco where we have crazies making all kinds of threats ranting and raving and threatening people. I’ve been threatened with bodily harm a number of times including by an old crazy azz lady.

      I dealt with this for years and NEVER once felt I had to take offensive action. You be prepared but you don’t launch until it’s a CREDIBLE threat.

      A guy ranting he’s hungry and wants food evidently frightens Jadon. What a p*ssy!

    535. Tgca says:

      Jadon now moving goal posts as usual.

      If a woman or teen girl threatens him, you don’t need to use force even though they could be just as deadly as a man, as evidenced by numerous violence we’ve seen the last few years with ANTIFA and BLM violence in the streets with girls and women assaulting others.

      I guess Jadon only thinks AA males need to be assaulted and strangled to death.

    536. Bitterlaw says:

      Only 4 shot down? Step it up, Ukraine.

    537. Tgca says:


      All lining lawyer pockets as he cuts deal or is convicted and sentenced to prison for assaulting and using deadly excessive force causing the death of a mentally ill man that was ranting abd raving like a lunatic.

    538. Tgca says:

      I agree this was an awful mistake for the marine but there has to be justice for the victim as well and for society, as this cannot be tolerated or acceptable way to handle crazies.

      Does anyone seriously think if an AA marine strangled a white dude there would be a large defense fund out there?

      Come on…would anyone here REALLY be advocating for him like they are for this blonde white dude?

    539. Marv says:


      Marines are trained to eliminate a threat to the public.
      The subway thug was a threat, now he is not.

    540. DW says:

      A retired Marine friend of mine once said, “There are sheep, wolves, and people who stand between them. I will leave it to you to guess which one I am.”

    541. Tgca says:

      552 Marv

      Silly argument.

      Rules in combat DO NOT apply in a civilian society.

      NYC is not a war zone.

      The marine is most likely going to spend time in jail for over reacting, especially since he was not acting in military capacity.

      If you can treat potential threats this way, then let’s put all these marines in schools to permanently neutralize threats from punks and bullies too.

      You’re making emotional arguments that have no basis in the court of law.

    542. DW says:

      “NYC is not a war zone.”

      you sure?

    543. Tgca says:


      Well, let’s hope some day a loved one of yours is not under the influence or experiencing mentally unstable event in a way where someone decides to assault them from behind and strangle them for three minutes until their body is lifeless.

      Many people have family members that act out this way. I’ve known numerous drunks and teens to behave like this in a threatening manner over the years and I wouldn’t be surprised if some of our posters with their anger issues have done so too.

      I bet then you’d be whistling a different tune as all other defenders of the marine here are doing.

      I would think a marine would honor the code and admit his error but we shall see if he demonstrates the high character and lives up to the code to admit his fault.

    544. Tgca says:


      Yes. I work there for years and frequented it for years through 2020.

      I see similar violent homeless crazies on the streets here in south Floreedah too, as we have a large homeless population too but DeSanctimonius doesn’t talk about that.

    545. Tgca says:

      Durham Report finally issued.

      Says FBI should never have opened the Trump Russia probe and claims two systems of justice but does not include any further charges.

      Tell me something I didn’t already know.

      Waste of time and money because both sides will dig in on the report and spin and nothing will be one of it.

    546. Marv says:

      554 Tgca,

      Putting Marines in schools and other soft targets to neutralize thugs is a splendid idea.

    547. Tgca says:


      Yes. I’m sure when these teen jocks who routinely bully others with their aggression die from being chokehold by a marine for aggressively threatening others, you’ll be fully embracing of it and celebrating their demise.

      One way to reduce school violence.

    548. Tgca says:

      More detail on Durham Report. Assuming this summary is accurate, it is very damaging to FBI and shows behind the scene players at highest level protecting Clinton but going after Trump with little to no basis and using different standards.

      It even calls out IG.

      However, don’t expect anything to come of it. GOP will claim it vindicates Trump and shows Deep State was out to get him while Dems will claim it’s a partisan hack-job by a right winger lawyer.

    549. Marv says:

      #560 Tgca,

      Yep, it would certainly clear out the riff raff and make it safer for June Cleaver to drop Wally and Beaver off at school in the morning.

    550. Marv says:

      Michael Flynn should be shot.

    551. Bitterlaw says:

      More handle stealing?

    552. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 15, 2023 at 2:50 pm

      There is an HHR Phoenix post by Anonymous. It may be Jason. Or not”

      It is me. But I posted as jason.

    553. jason says:

      When this site ends, I will try to post on the new site.

      If it works, it works. If it doesn’t I will assume I am banned.

      C’est la vie.

    554. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 15, 2023 at 9:00 pm

      More handle stealing?”

      Yes, stupid troll Paul.

    555. Marv says:

      564 Bitterlaw,

      Yep. Definitely handle theft.

    556. Marv says:

      #566 jason,

      My posts showed up as “Anonymous” a couple of times.
      The trick is to login before posting, but go ahead and fill in your email and handle if the box below the comment box appears asks for that info.

    557. Marv says:

      #495 jason,

      My preference would be for Gov Perry to become Secretary of Defence, or perhaps Secretary of the Air Force. Wokeism in the military needs to be eliminated and those officers who went along with it should be relieved of duty and retired with immediate effect.

    558. PresidentPaul! says:

      Trump tried to release documents on the last USA president the CIA took down before they nuked Trump’s reelection as well.

    559. SuzyQ says:

      Trump will be reelected. God has told me. The Storm is on the horizon and it gets bigger and bigger.

    560. SuzyQ says:

      It is the last days of HHR and I feel we are in the end times. Many institutions will crash soon but Trump with his long garments will rise up with a multitude hidden among the folds of clothing.

    561. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – You are not banned. I don’t know how to ban posters. I would not ban an A-hole.

    562. Bitterlaw says:

      After 19 years here, I know the posters. I am sure I fought with all of you. The lifeboat does not require you to bring your baggage. It is up to you if you want to start over or resume the fighting. I don’t know how to ban and am not interested in learning how to do it.

    563. Phil says:

      I appreciate bitter’s efforts at setting up the lifeboat. As far as banning posters, he’s the least likely person I can think of to ever try and ban anyone. I look forward to a continuing of the rough and tumble hedgehog culture at the new site.

    564. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil -Everybody should pack plenty of GFYs in the lifeboat.

    565. jason says:

      Escalation you won’t hear JeffP talking about…

      “KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian air defenses thwarted an intense Russian air attack on Kyiv early Tuesday, shooting down all 18 missiles aimed at the capital with the help of Western-supplied weapons, officials said.

      Loud explosions boomed over Kyiv as the nighttime attack combined Russian missiles launched from the air, sea and land in an apparent attempt to overwhelm Ukraine’s air defenses. No casualties were reported as Western-supplied weapons helped fend off the assault.”

    566. Cash Cow TM says:

      Would they also suspend a teacher if the kid dressed up on “Dress up as a person in history day” as:

      –Gen. Custer?
      –Christopher Columbus?
      –Abe Lincoln?
      –Hunter Biden?

      we have lost our friggin minds. (WHLOFM)

    567. Albertus Magnus says:


      I concur, BL is the least likely to ban anyone. I also agree that he has done a great job in getting some of you guys a Lifeboat. He has accomplished more than I expected him to=, for sure.

      I have been able to post there, although anonymously, so far. For a neophyte, he should be proud of his efforts so far.

      It eventually will still die a slow death. He is going to get tired of it. The current format is cumbersome and only the most motivated will be aware or active there in a few months.

      However, the few motivated ones will hang on as long as their buddies are there. For most of you in that category, it will become what this site became, your only social life built around the fantasy-driven persona you have created that has no bearing to anything in your own lives.

      My prediction? In 6 months, the Lifeboat will have dwindled down into a safe place for BL and Jason to continue their brohomomance in their virtual lives. Feeling less of the need to be less explicit, the site will be set to private only, where they can discuss their fantasies and conduct their flirtation more openly and the handful of you guys who dont have your stomachs turned at the site of it.

    568. Bitterlaw says:

      AM is jealous of a relationship that does not exist. How sad is that?

    569. Bitterlaw says:

      There is evil in this world. While it is unlikely they will be caught, if they are they should be given a choice – plead guilty to murder OR be locked in a room with the dead boy’s parents and a baseball bat.

    570. Tina says:

      Jonah Rino

      ABC News Politics

      Jun 4, 2017
      .@JonahNRO: “If it’s a contest between James Comey’s credibility and Donald Trump’s credibility,” Comey wins “10 out of 10 times.”

    571. jason says:

      Albertus Idioticus Minus, a moronic flyby troll, actually thinks anyone here gives a flying f–k what he thinks about HHR or the new site.

      There is no treatment for that kind of delusion.

    572. jason says:

      The lifeboat does not require you to bring your baggage.”

      I don’t have any baggage.


    573. jason says:

      Marv says:
      May 15, 2023 at 9:41 pm

      #495 jason,

      My preference would be for Gov Perry to become Secretary of Defence, or perhaps Secretary of the Air Force. Wokeism in the military needs to be eliminated and those officers who went along with it should be relieved of duty and retired with immediate effect.”

      Fine with me!

    574. jason says:

      Just tried to post again on the new site.

      It asks for email and name. Fine.

      Entered those.

      Wrote post and pressed send. The screen switches to the buildings. Scrolled down, no post.

    575. Tgca says:

      I have successfully set up website that allows posting in past so for a ridiculously expensive fee, I can help out.

    576. Bitterlaw says:

      I saw Jason’s post.

    577. JeffP says:

      Presidential candidates that make promises when they are elected into office are one thing. Presidential candidates who make promises when they had the chance and they didn’t do anything as President the first time, have a completely different impact.

      That is going to a problem in debates for Trump.

    578. JeffP says:

      578 Jason you are gullible to believe that. BTW…That has already been debunked. Victoria would be proud.

      How about posting about the corruption with our tax money? The Ukraine Suoreme Court head took 3 million.

    579. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – At the top left of the screen above the buildings, is a tab called Reader. Click in that to see posts.

    580. Tgca says:


      Yeah. Agreed! Reagan never got the line item veto and a few other things he promised to do done so what a failure he was as president.

      Silly argument! Presidents can only do a certain amount of things based on priorities and they need votes to do so too.

      No other politician can claim this high bar you put out there unless they have complete control of the legislatures by large numbers and can override the courts.

      Most presidents have failed promises, not so much because they did not try but due to priorities, Congressional votes, and court interventions.

      Trump was a highly successful POTUS, the best since Reagan, and I doubt you’ll see another one as successful in the next generation.

    581. Wes says:

      Recently I had the misfortune of a stage three cancer diagnosis. I recommend everyone get a regular screening upon reaching my age (mid 40s) or older. I’m going through Hell right now between symptoms and treatment, and I wouldn’t wish anyone to have to deal with this.

    582. PresidentPaul! says:

      Trump joins the show to discuss the FBI-CIA-Democrat coup that stole the 2020 election.

    583. Paul says:

      PresidentPaul! You are a moron. Go to hell and stay there.

    584. Paul says:

      I used to like Republicans. But now I despise all of them even Bitterlaw.

    585. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes – Despite our fights, you know we wish the best for you and your family.

      If it makes you feel better, I can expedite your A-hole application.

    586. DW says:

      Wes, so sorry to hear this. I know someone who beat stage three colon cancer and fully recovered. I will pray you do as well.

    587. Bitterlaw says:

      Colon cancer gets automatic A-hole status. Welcome, A-hole Wes!

    588. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      594. Wes, so sorry to hear of your illness. Your one of the poster I most respect on this board. Your in my prayers, and wish you the best.

    589. Wes says:

      Thanks, everyone. I can honestly say this is the worst I’ve ever felt in my life.

    590. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Why it’s not a good idea to recruit inmates from prisons to fight in your military. They get particularly angry when they realize their being used as cannon fodder.

      “Wagner terrorists near #Bakhmut send “congratulations” to the deputy of the state duma of the russian federation Sobolev and promise that in the event of defeat in the war, they will come to Red Square and deal with everyone”

    591. Phil says:

      In my prayers, Wes. Take care and get well, buddy.

    592. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Darth Putin
      Russia is supported by all anti-imperialist progressives looking for a brighter tomorrow. And the people who want to kill them.”

    593. jason says:

      Sorry about your diagnosis Wes, I am sure with good treatment you will overcome this. Stage 3 is still curable, wishing you all the best.

    594. Bitterlaw says:

      For now, the radical leftist, Helen Gym, is in 4th place.

    595. Tgca says:

      With 84% of KY GOP primary vote in, Trump endorsed candidate wins with 47% compared to DeSanctimonius endorsed candidate with 17% in 3rd place.

      Now what was DeSanctimonius saying in IA the other day about other GOP leaders not winning elections?

      Mind you that in 2022, DeSanctimonius backed as many losers for senate and gubbernor races as Trump.

      Sounds like DeSanctimonius may not be someone a candidate wants an endorsement from or campaigning for them given his poor record of endorsed candidates winning.

    596. Bitterlaw says:

      Parker leading. She was a member of City Council and teacher. She focused her campaign on safety and schools. She has been a guest on conservative talk radio in Philadelphia.

    597. jason says:

      Good and bad news on Oak Island.

      Bad news: treasure wasn’t found.

      Good news: tunnels made by other treasure hunters who didn’t find treasure were found.

      In exciting news, at the bottom of one hole they found a “non ferrous hit” on a metal detector. Unfortunately it was 15 minutes before the end of the season so we won’t know what it is is until next season.

    598. Tgca says:

      Looks like DeSanctimonius “Kiss of Death” in endorsing candidates happened again as Floreedah’s largest city, Jacksonville, flips to Dems after DeSanctimonius endorsed the GOP nominee. The city was in GOP hands the last 8 years but not anymore.

      That’s two DeSanctimonius endorsed candidates that lost this week, adding that to his numerous endorsed candidates that lost in 2022 midterms.

      So much for his speech in Iowa on electing people who can actually win elections.

    599. jason says:


      Tgca rightfully criticizes the “Trump endorsement TDS” BS but then sells himself out by engaging in the same Golden Calf endorsement BS.

    600. jason says:

      I don’t know about Jacksonville, but Cameron in KY was always the odds on favorite with or without Trumps lukewarm endorsement.

    601. jason says:

      Not impressed with the R turnout in PA, a lot more votes for Dems on all statewide races.

      And the mail in boondoggle still working for Dems. For Justice of Supreme Court there were about 400k Dem mail in ballots vs. 130 R mail in ballots.

    602. jason says:

      However in York there were 30k votes cast so far for Rs in the Supreme Court race vs. 17k for Dems, a good ratio.

    603. Bitterlaw says:

      Since it was a primary election, I am not sure if higher Dem turnout is significant. There may have been more contested primaries on the Dem side.

      In Philadelphia, the guaranteed next Mayor got the Dem nomination with 33% of the vote. Turnout was low so this translates to her receiving the support of about 7% of the 1 million voters in the city.

    604. jason says:

      Since it was a primary election, I am not sure if higher Dem turnout is significant.”

      Maybe. Also not sure if all the vote is in on the SOS website.

      It is showing a lot more votes case for Judge of the Superior Court than for the Supreme Court for some reason.

    605. jason says:

      Bitter I don’t see any “reader” tab above the buildings.

    606. Messy says:

      The MAGAts basically took over the site and i was kind of kicked out. I’m not sure where the new site is or when it will be up.

      For many years this site was great. I’m kind of sad it’s going to be gone.

    607. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – I see your posts. Try clicking on the W at the very top left corner. There should be a drop down menu for Conversations. Click on that. You can also log in.

    608. Bitterlaw says:

      The lifeboat.

    609. Tgca says:


      That was sarcasm you vile meat-eating mental midget.

      My point is that DeSanctimonius gave a speech in Iowa attacking Trump and other GOP for losing races when not only did it happen in his own backyard but this HYPOCRITE endorsed all the same GOP losers in 2022 that Trump did.

      So it’s arrogance of him and his team to talk about winning while criticizing others in the GOP of backing losers when he’s backing losers as well.

    610. jason says:

      What Fetterman said:

      Shouldn’t you have some kind of working required suu after we sail your bank uh billions of your bank? Because you seem we were preoccupied when then SNAP requirements for works for hungry people but not about pro, protecting the tax, tax papers you know that will bail them out of whatever does about a bank to crash it.”

      What the WAPO reported he said:

      “Shouldn’t you have a working requirement after we bail out your bank? Republicans seem to be more preoccupied with SNAP requirements for hungry people than protecting taxpayers who have to bail out these banks.”

      Democracy dies in darkness….

    611. jason says:

      The MAGAts basically took over the site and i was kind of kicked out.”

      We thought you went back to grade school to learn English and History so you wouldn’t appear so ignorant.

    612. jason says:

      The lifeboat.”

      Bitter keeps posting this.

      It goes nowhere. All you see is a picture of buildings with ZERO text or links anywhere.

      But this link works

      I can see the threads and can click on the comments. But my comments do not show to me unless I log in again

      And I don’t see any reader tab and there is no “W” on top left corner. Nada, nothing, zilch.

    613. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – I am able to see your posts in the lifeboat. Not sure what the issue is when the other posters have made the transition. Maybe they can help you.

    614. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – I followed the link. The W and Reader tabs are in the upper left corner.

    615. Robbie says:

      I voted for Ryan Quarles in the Kentucky governor’s primary. I felt he was best prepared to be governor. His conservative credentials were unquestioned and, most importantly to me, he was just about the only Republican in the state who attacked Beshear over his covid lockdowns.

      I thought Craft was a terrible candidate. Her whole reason for running seemed to be she was rich and wanted the job. Despite spending millions of her own money and running commercial after commercial, she finished third.

      As for Cameron, I’ll happily vote for him in the Fall. I think he is more than acceptable to all factions of the party. That said, I’ve always felt he came across as a bit of a dud and I worry eastern Kentucky will be reluctant to vote for a black man in such a prominent race.

      To beat Beshear, Cameron is going to have to prove he can throw a punch. He hasn’t done that yet. For the next six months, he should rip the bark off Beshear, especially over covid. Beshear is popular and the Republicans in the state have done almost nothing over the last three years to knock down his popularity.

    616. Paul says:

      It’s Fetterman’s Pennsylvania accent that you are having trouble understanding, Jason.

    617. Phil says:

      If only Fetterman just had an “accent” problem.


    618. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – If SCOTUS had not issued the Dobbs decision last year I think Fetterman would have lost. Abortion motivated those who may have sat home to vote for him. Most of his ads in the last 3 months of his campaign focused on it.

    619. Tgca says:

      I was surprised by the Jacksonville loss too but I think you’re seeing folks starting to push back on the GOP in Floreedah because they seemed to have moved FAR right and not just right, and are focused mainly on cultural issues when we have a YUUUUGE housing crisis in the state impacting families and leading to a large increase in homeless and crime on the streets NEVER before seen in Floreedah.

      This will not be good for the GOP nationally as DeSanctimonius keeps repeating make the US more like Floreedah, and people learn about the EXTREME policies they’re pushing here.

      It’s why he is losing support here. People are waking up to this craziness especially since Floreedah is more like a 53/47 GOP state and not a 60/40 GOP state.

      Banning books in school that include art like The Sistine Chapel or Statue of David and firing a principal over it for including them in an art lesson to 6 graders is EXTREME.

      Banning ABORTION at 6 weeks down from 15 weeks, forcing high school girls to have babies appears EXTREME.

      Passing laws where ONLY DeSanctimonius can hide all his travel and meeting records, retroactively to when he took office in 2019 but no one else can in the state can is EXTREME.

      Threatening to build prisons, raise taxes, put tolls on roads, and harm the local economy and housing values of central Floreedah because he’s trying to spite Disney is EXTREME.

      Passing laws that allows doctors, pharmacists, and insurance companies to deny service to those that don’t meet their religious beliefs is EXTREME.

      Pushing for laws to monitor and register those that report news on state leaders is EXTREME.

      Pushing for laws to make it illegal for Dems to operate as a party in the state because they once supported slavery is EXTREME.

      These are just some of the EXTREME measures they’re pushing here in Floreedah.

    620. Phil says:

      You are probably right, bitter.

    621. Phil says:

      The on line donation Daniel Penny legal defense fund should cross $2.6 million mark in the next hour. About 54K donors so far. The guy obviously now has ample funds to get the best of the best legal representation in order to take on Bragg in any future legal proceedings.

    622. Tgca says:


      You mean more money for his defense team to bilk him and then come back for more money later on because that’s just how lawyers are.

    623. Phil says:

      ….or better yet it wouldn’t cost anyone a dime if the Soros hack didn’t charge him in the first place.

    624. PresidentPaul! says:

      FBI leadership sabotaged investigations into the Hillary foundation during the FBI-CIA-Democrat coups

      Ultimately all of this led to the disaster of the stolen Biden presidency inflicted on the American people

    625. PresidentPaul! says:

      DeSantis’s major weakness is he hasn’t acknowledged that Trump is the rightful president and not Joe Biden.

    626. Tgca says:


      NO! Depending on the REAL facts that eventually come out because we’re all going on media reports at this time.

      If anyone assaults anyone when there is no physical threat, then there is a crime that should be addressed.

      If a crazy guy is walking down my street ranting and raving he’s hungry and doesn’t care if he dies or not and I rush out and assault him from behind and choke him to death, that should be a crime.

      We don’t let people assault and kill others because we don’t like their behavior or think their behavior is inappropriate.

      It’s why we have different levels of manslaughter in the 1st place based on intent and action.

      STOP making an emotional argument. We have laws for a reason.

      You’d be crying like a lil’ Bish if someone took down a crazy ranting and raving Christian protestor at an ABORTION clinic.

    627. Tgca says:


      I think DeSanctimonius major weaknesses are:

      1. He has aligned with far-right state politicians that will not translate well nationally.
      2. He alienates other politicians by putting them down as doing nothing while he anoints himself as the only effective politician out there, claiming others are stuck with losing all the time.
      3. He’s thin-skinned and arrogant, and just not likable, and not a good or energizing communicator.
      4. He thinks what he gets away with in sycophantic Floreedah is going to work in DC when he has no supermajority to rubber stamp his agenda.

      It shows immaturity and my gut feeling is he’s going to learn real quick, if he announces, and all start piling up on him and focusing on his extreme policies.

    628. Phil says:

      Considering the jury pool he probably doesn’t have much of a chance regardless….but if he somehow beats the charge your pals in the streets will have the privilege of rioting and destroying the city. All in the name of “social justice” of course. Maybe you can hop a plane and join in on the fun.

      I’ll pop some popcorn and watch “the mostly peaceful protests” on cable news. Can’t think of a more worthless city to burn unless you count Portland, Seattle, and Chicago – all filled to the brim with social justice warriors.

    629. Robbie says:

      I haven’t been reading the comments as closely as I once did so I was very sorry to read Wes is suffering from cancer.

      So many advances in treatments have been made and I hope he is able to benefit from them.

    630. Tgca says:


      Phil is adapting Jadon tactics because he has a weak argument. Emotionally vested in an issue and instead of debating the issue, instead resorts to character assassination.

      “If you don’t support the killing marine, you’re a leftist social justice warrior.”

      is the new

      “If you don’t support Zelenskyy, you’re a Pootin stooge.”

    631. Tgca says:

      This is the kind of stuff people don’t hear about and the MSM lies about to avoid talking about election fraud.

      Then they claim people are election deniers.

      How can you review signatures in less than 3 seconds?

      274,000 signatures reviewed in 0 to 3 seconds as electronic files show. One person reviewed 27,000 signatures within that timeframe and gave it a 100% pass rate. It turns out that individual was later fired, for what we don’t know.

      Watch the video explanation to the judge.

    632. Tgca says:

      Wow! This is something Phil can totally get behind. Then we wouldn’t need marines killing the homeless.

      Canada’s National Post on Tuesday published the results of a poll that show nearly a third of Canadians believe assisted suicide should be offered to homeless people who are weary of their lives.

    633. Phil says:

      The sad thing is that the homeless guy threatening those on the subway was struck down too soon. He still had so much potential left. Probably had another 44 arrests left in him.

    634. Tgca says:


      I notice Phil chooses sarcasm to deflects as to what’s lawful and not lawful.

      Like 95% of his arrests and citations were for minor infractions like jaywalking, peeing in public, drinking alcohol in public, jumping a subway turn style, etc. The vast majority of homeless do this routinely and to the same or more frequency when living on the streets for years and many otherwise law abiding citizens have done these at least one or more times as well.

      Have you ever relieved yourself in public, whether it be an alley, park, or street?

      Have you ever jaywalked?

      Have you ever crossed the street when the light was red?

      Have you ever drank alcohol in public?

      Have you ever gotten a parking violation or speeding ticket?

      Have you ever illegally parked?

      Have you ever gotten into a fight and pushed, shoved, or hit someone out of anger?

      If you have done any of these, you are just as guilty as him and should be judged as a criminal too though your frequency may be less due to your privilege.

      I am not defending his actions, I am pointing out you trying to make it out as if his criminal record is 40 violent events when it was not so therefore he deserved what he got. He had 2 reported violent incidents. 2 too many in my view but it was not 42 violent criminal acts. He was a mentally ill man that did not belong on the street, and to the extent he assaulted others in the past, he should have been held accountable but death using excessive force when it is reported he posed no physical threat to others is not the prescription for those offenses.

      I bet people in your family are guilty of many of these and it wouldn’t surprise me if they bullied or hit others unprovoked either.

      So put your Texas size bigotry aside and judge on the facts because if anyone in your family has ever done any of these, they deserve to be strangled to death too by your own silly logic.

      TYVM for playing STOOPID today.

    635. Tgca says:

      By Phil’s Texas Size Justice, if a man with dementia acts out and threatens to assault someone in a nursing home or medical facility, it is fine to assault him from behind and strangle him to death using excessive force.

      Now as many know, there are a certain percentage of people with dimentia who act out violently and require restraining. I know of some acquaintances who experienced this with their parents.

      Since mental illness is not an excuse, Texas Size Justice says tackle these f*ckin’ dementia bishes to the ground and put them in a chokehold for 3 or minutes until they expire.

      That’ll teach them to act out.

    636. Tgca says:


      Let’s not forget alcoholics too!

      A certain percentage of drunks act out ranting and raving violently, therefore using Phil’s Texas Size Justice, they should be taken down and strangled to death.

      There goes half the Irish and Latino men in the US I guess.

    637. AkandMub says:


      Lolita love collection:


    638. Phil says:

      Yeah, the guy was just a jaywalker. No arrests for violence. Got it.

      We’re all going to sure miss your limitless wisdom and grasp of the facts on the new site.

    639. Tgca says:


      Just as I will miss your Texas bigotry.

      We know there’s No Way you’d be supporting the Marine if he was black.

    640. Tgca says:

      I think it will be funny if it turns out the marine is a liberal or some lowlife scum because we know statistically, that military personnel go on to engage in more criminal behavior than the general public as a whole.

    641. Robbie says:

      (Stephanie) Slade

      “There is no meaningful distinction between the public and the private sector in the United States of America,” says @JDVance1 at @CatholicUniv.

      – JD Vance – the AFLCIO Republican. How long before he starts spouting Marx and a good economic theorist?

    642. Tina says:

      Leading Report

      BREAKING: House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has called for the immediate expulsion and possible prosecution of Rep. Adam Schiff for committing crimes of treason against the United States.
      11:12 AM · May 17, 2023

    643. Phil says:

      “No way you’d be supporting that marine if he was black”

      Oh brother. LMAO

      Really? Based on what exactly? Pull out the old race card? Me thinks you’ve been watching a little too much Joy Reed lately. Ah yes. Always RACISM. Got to be race, right? Well, you and Biden continue to stay busy looking behind all those bushes and flush out all those white supremacists. They got to be there somewhere. BTW, I bet you loved Biden’s Howard University speech. Hell, you could have written it.

      Anyway, good riddance. Good luck fighting that – let’s see, what do you morons like to call it? Oh yeah, that mean ol “don’t say gay law” there in Florida.

      In the meantime, don’t let the door hit you in the ass and speaking for bitter, Jason, and the rest of us A-Holes on this site – GFY

    644. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Putin admirer Noam Chomsky and his good friend:

      “Jeffrey Epstein helped move $270,000 for renowned linguist Noam Chomsky and also paid $150,000 to Bard College president Leon Botstein, the Wall Street Journal has reported.

      According to the newspaper, and also confirmed by Chomsky and Botstein, the late sex offender and financier had financial dealings with the two academics and had met with them multiple times.

      Elon Musk subpoenaed over JPMorgan’s role in Jeffrey Epstein’s activities
      Chomsky, a linguist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and political activist, told the Journal that he met Epstein occasionally to discuss political and academic topics. In 2018, Chomsky asked Epstein for help with a “technical matter” regarding the disbursement of common funds relating to his first marriage, the Journal reported.”

    645. jason says:

      Phil says:
      May 17, 2023 at 5:16 pm

      The sad thing is that the homeless guy threatening those on the subway was struck down too soon. He still had so much potential left. Probably had another 44 arrests left in him.”


    646. jason says:

      “No way you’d be supporting that marine if he was black”

      Heh, you know Tgca has lost the argument and given up when he brings up the ole tired race card.

      I would say the same thing if the marine was black and the guy threatening to kill people was white.

      What a crock of crap.

    647. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      659. Ditto.

    648. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca is the most race-baiting, anti-landlord, pro-Disney, anti-capitalist who trashes DeSantis for being anti-woke alleged conservative poster at HHR.

    649. Paul says:

      I agree with Tgca about Disney and marines killing homeless dudes. I agree with Jason, Bitterlaw and SDC on Ukraine. I agree with Bitterlaw that two things can frequently be true. I agree with Robbie that Trump isn’t helpful to the Republicans.

    650. Paul says:

      And I agree with everyone at HHR who says I’m mentally not right sometimes.

    651. Tgca says:

      Well, the fact is I have the law on my side regarding both the marine and the victim.

      The marine strangled a man to death for no good reason. He deserves jail time for that. Wearing a uniform is not a get out of jail card free.

      The victim had numerous minor crimes that most people are guilty of. See my post 647.

      In fact, I would bet Phil, his wife, and his kids are just as much criminal as the victim but Phil deflects and refuses to answer if he ever committed any of those crimes I listed.

    652. Tgca says:


      Speaking about child groomers.

    653. Tgca says:


      No. it’s a legitimate concern when HHR posters whine and complain about being victims all the time but a poor mentally ill black man is killed by an aggressive white dude and you all rally around the white dude and start slandering the black dude. Why?

      If an aggressive black man killed a poor mentally ill white dude, do you think he’d get a $2M+ GoFundMe from conservatives?

      Be real dudes! We all know the answer to that.

      Do you actually think Phil from Texas would donate to save a black guy from jail? Come on man.

    654. Tgca says:

      Hey Phil

      I have no desire to post at the new site which you guys can’t even get working and keep complaining about.

      HHR has run its course and very few posters left. Its time to let go and move on with life.

      Why are you here then if you have a new site?

      Go to the new site and be gone. You will not be missed anymore than any other HHR poster that has previously left.

      Have a nice life dude! _ _ | _ _

    655. NYCmike says:


      Good wishes to you, and several prayers as well.

      Feel free to fantasize about Schumer and I all you like, if it makes you feel any better.

      You can deal with this situation. You are strong enough.

    656. NYCmike says:


      As Robbie mentioned, to keep it “our” site, once I am up on the other site, I’ll be willing to give my 2 cents anytime!

      See what I did there….

    657. Bitterlaw says:

      In 665, Tgca literally just called me a pedophile/sexual abuser of children. (Child groomer). Jason to deny Tgca did that in 3…2…1…

    658. Bitterlaw says:

      The new site works. The irony of telling people to get a life and let HHR die is epic. Remember how he pledged to leave when Biden was inaugurated? He didn’t stay away for even a full day. Remember how he said he was leaving a few days ago? He is still here.

    659. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      671. At least 15 individuals have logged in and posted on the new site. It is doing very well.

    660. Bitterlaw says:

      If the Mayan calendar is correct, HHR is shutting down forever on May 31st. I will post here and at the lifeboat until then.

    661. Phil says:

      I’m posting at both places as well, bitter. So far so good with the other site. It’s working well for me so far.

    662. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – I don’t know if I can have such a murderous racist in the lifeboat. Without the sad little clown, who will keep an eye on you?

    663. jason says:

      but a poor mentally ill black man is killed by an aggressive white dude”

      Wins the “Worst Description of What Really Happened” Award of 2023.

    664. Tina says:

      Where are pics of the two hour, wild car chase involving harry and the misses?

    665. jason says:

      Tgca is racking up awards.

      “If anyone assaults anyone when there is no physical threat”

      Gets “Second Worst Description of What Really Happened” Award for 2023.

    666. Bitterlaw says:

      The pics of the car chase are locked away with the Oak Island treasure.

    667. jason says:

      The system where in order to see your post you have to log out won’t work for me on the new site.

      If anyone knows why I only get a picture of buildings when I post with no links to anything let me know.

    668. Bitterlaw says:

      When you log in do you see any icons at the top? Maybe Phil or Tina can walk you through it.

    669. jason says:

      It is funny that Tgca thinks the marine should not have taken the action he took because he didn’t know of Neely’s 40+ arrests including for violent assault, but at the same time was supposed to know that Neely was “mentally ill”.

      The marine acted with the information at hand, which was a violent and aggressive man threatening to kill people and stating that he didn’t mind going to jail for it.

      In my view, even if he had known the guy’s medical record, he still did the right thing. But not knowing it makes his actions even more justified.

      And btw, Tgca’s BS that the marine was an “aggressive white dude” is categorically denied by a witness.

      ‘He said, ‘I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet, I’ll go to jail’ because he would kill people on the train,’ the woman said of Neely. ‘He said, ‘I would kill a motherf—er. I don’t care. I’ll take a bullet. I’ll go to jail.’’

      The retiree said Penny did not initially engage with Neely during the wild rant until things got out of hand and he felt the urge to step in.

      ‘This gentleman, Mr. Penny, did not stand up,’ the rider said. ‘Did not engage with the gentleman. He said not a word. It was all Mr. Neely that was … threatening the passengers. If he did not get what he wants.’

    670. jason says:

      Two hour car chase?

      Will make a great movie that I won’t pay to watch.

    671. jason says:

      That doesn’t work.

      There is a picture of buildings, nothing “on top” and nothing else.

      I can get in using Marv’s link.

      This works. But when I post and click submit it goes to the picture of buildings again with no links.

    672. Phil says:

      Marv’s link is how I get in as well, Jason. When I post and hit submit it takes me directly to the thread and I don’t get the buildings like you do. I’m at a loss as to why you are not getting back to the thread after posting. It’s got to be some little something causing the glitch. I’m at a loss as to what exactly it is. Marv, any suggestions for Jason?

    673. jason says:

      May 18, 2023 at 8:39 am

      Please fix the problem where as soon as I click “Post Comment” I exit the thread and get a picture of buildings and nothing else”

      So my post is there. But I only see it after I log back in.

    674. Tgca says:


      …again, Jadon making emotional arguments and not legal ones.

      The law does not allow you to attack and kill someone simply because they are ranting and raving. Witnesses claim the homeless guy was not posing a physical threat. Crazy people say all types of chit. I’ve had crazies on the street tell me they would harm me but it was all talk.

      The marine was in the wrong and took a life because he acted aggressively. He was the one that launched an attack, not the homeless man. He made a terrible mistake. He should be prosecuted and serve the appropriate sentence.

      Ask in Jadon’s view if someone threatens you, you have the right to attack them, use deadly excessive force, and take their life.

      Ridiculous logic. Thank God we have laws.

    675. Tgca says:


      Yes, the marine assaulted the homeless guy. Witnesses claim he came up from behind him and put him in a chokehold.

      That is assault.

      Are you STOOPID?

    676. jason says:

      Ask in Jadon’s view if someone threatens you, you have the right to attack them, use deadly excessive force,”

      Yes, if someone in a closed space tells you they are going to kill you and others and don’t care if they are killed or jailed as a result, you have the right to restrain them.

      The chokehold was entirely appropriate under the circumstances and was the LEAST aggressive action he could have taken. Had he pulled out a knife and stabbed Neely or shot him in the head you can allege “excessive force” because you were not seeking a non-lethal form of restraint.

      Here is the deal. When you threaten to kill people in a subway car you assume a certain risk that you will be harmed.

      The death was an unintentional consequence of actions brought forth by Neely.

      The marine is a hero for acting to protect all those people and charging him with manslaughter is a joke by a woke Soros funded DA.

      In 99% of jurisdictions in the US this would be a clear case of self defense.

    677. Tgca says:


      A groomer does not mean you’re a pedo. Keep to ambulance chasing you drama queen because you clearly have trouble with defining illegal activity under the law.

      But for the record, I have no reason to believe you’re a pedo but you’re statistically more likely to be one than others because you’re a white middle-aged male that surrounds himself and spends times with kids. That in itself does not make one a pedo but statistically, pedos are white middle-aged males and try to be around kids a lot.

      Only you know for certain your innermost feelings towards kids but I have no reason to believe you to be one even though you’ll rant I’m calling you a pedo when I say no such thing and instead point out the statistical basis on it since you brought it up.

    678. Tgca says:


      Chokehold resulting in death is not restraining.

      You’re moving goal posts now, as usual.

      Please provide the NY law that says you can restrain someone for ranting what homeless and crazies ROUTINELY rant in public. I’ve witnessed similar rants numerous times and NEVER felt the need to call for action to restrain a person.

      The coroner determined it was homicide and there is a legal basis for that conclusion but not for what you claim.

      If the facts turn out as reported, the marine should be convicted and jailed.

    679. jason says:

      Yes, the marine assaulted the homeless guy.”


      The marine was minding his own business riding the subway.

      The “homeless guy” had 40+ arrests including violent assault and threatened to kill him.

      The marine did not assault anyone. He tried to restrain someone from killing him and fellow passengers.

      Self defense is not assault.

    680. jason says:

      Chokehold resulting in death is not restraining.”

      Yes it is.

    681. Tgca says:


      40+ arrests for minor infractions most homeless rack up, as well as normal everyday people though not to the same degree

      Have you ever jaywalked?

      Crossed at a red light?

      Relieved yourself in public?

      Illegally parked?

      Had a traffic violation?

      Drank liquor in public?

      Drove while under the influence?

      Smoked a joint?

      Violated any city ordinance?

      If you have done any of these, you are just as guilty as the homeless guy of criminal offenses even if you did not do as many or as frequently…and I bet you the marine has probably done these too.

    682. Tgca says:

      …and for the record, you better hope there is nothing in the marine’s past that comes out. One bar fight or arrest record will be enough to establish aggressive behavior that will help convict him.

    683. jason says:

      Please provide the NY law that says you can restrain someone for ranting”

      Zzzzz…. that is not what happened. “Ranting” is one thing.

      Threatening to kill people and saying you don’t care if you go to jail or get killed in the process is more than “ranting”.

      People in a closed subway car had nowhere to go. They could not escape. At least three people rightfully took action to restrain him.

      If anyone tells me they are going to kill me I am going to take it seriously.

    684. jason says:

      This isn’t “jaywalking”, give me a break.

      The infraction was so “minor” it got him 15 months in jail even in woke NYC.

      “NEW YORK CITY (TND) — An assault victim of Jordan Neely, the man killed Monday afternoon on the New York City Subway after his alleged harassment of other passengers led to a former Marine putting him in a chokehold, says Neely should have been in rehab and not on the street at the time of his death, according to a new report.

      Filemon Castillo Baltazar, 68, who was assaulted by Neely on the subway in 2019, told the New York Daily News that he wasn’t sure if what the Marine did was right, but insisted he should not be arrested.

      Everyone in different situations has reasons for what they do. The Marine shouldn’t be punished. Who knows what that guy might have done to other people,” Baltazar said of Neely, who he insisted “should have been in some rehab center.”

      Neely was ultimately charged with assaulting Baltazar and the case was eventually adjudicated, but the result was sealed, the NY Daily News reported.

      Two years after the assault on Baltazar, Neely was once again arrested for punching a 67-year-old female in the face as she exited the New York City Subway system. Neely pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 15 months in an alternative-to-incarceration program that he could complete in order to get the charges reduced and face no jail time.”

    685. jason says:

      t got him 15 months in jail even in woke NYC.”

      Of course, he never actually went to jail.

      But that is another story.

    686. jason says:

      for punching a 67-year-old female in the face as she exited the New York City Subway system”

      Btw, that is what ASSAULT is. And punching a 67 year old woman in the face could easily be life threatening.

      Restraining someone threatening to kill innocent people is not assault.

    687. jason says:

      “for punching a 67-year-old female in the face as she exited the New York City Subway system”

      Tgca the clown is actually comparing this to jaywalking and illegally parking.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    688. Tgca says:


      I guess Jadon has never ridden public transportation. Crazies rant chit like that all the time. I’ve had people threaten to kill me and cut me up and dispose of me that no one would find me. I had one person threaten to shoot me once.

      Most NYers deal with this daily and it’s not a real threat to them though it’s annoying. They often joke and laugh about it.

      If the marine had kept his cool, all would have been fine and the homeless guy would be alive but the marine had to act out and assault a man leading to his death.

      Spin it anyway you want but those are the facts. The marine should be convicted and serve his time.

      He should also reflect on what he did. If he does not accept responsibility for his actions, he is a disgrace to the uniform.

    689. jason says:

      Child castration and mutilation is ok because according to the Democrats, these children belong to “all of us”, not the parents.

      “Willing or not, here they come. The destructive transgender cult has become so confident and aggressive that White House Press Secretary and professional liar Karine Jean-Pierre just echoed Joe Biden and declared that parents have no right to object to transgender surgeries: “These are our kids. They belong to all of us.”

    690. Phil says:

      Come on, Jason. The guy was put in a chokehold because he was just jaywalking and spitting on the sidewalk. Try to keep up. Also the marine was a white supremacist. Apparently so was the black guy assisting the marine in restraining the jaywalker.

    691. jason says:

      May 17, 2023 at 11:43 am

      Jason – I followed the link. The W and Reader tabs are in the upper left corner.”

      Not to me.

      This could be akin to the Radnor voting machines that had an “against Hillary” option.

      Maybe Radnor has superior Internet that we country brutes in Bittersville don’t have access to.

    692. Bitterlaw says:

      692 Nice dodge when the sad little clown is finally caught saying what he meant to accuse me of. “Child grooming” is code for setting up sex with children. What other possible meaning could there be? Was the sad little clown accusing me of being a barber?

    693. jason says:

      Come on, Jason. The guy was put in a chokehold because he was just jaywalking and spitting on the sidewalk. Try to keep up. Also the marine was a white supremacist. Apparently so was the black guy assisting the marine in restraining the jaywalker.”

      Right. Tgca and the far left MSM have the same narrative.

      There was this innocent black man whose only crime was being black peacefully riding the subway when this evil bloodthirsty marine assaulted him and killed him in cold blood because he hated black people.

    694. Tgca says:

      I made clear the homeless guy should have been prosecuted for his 2 assaults on others just like military dudes who get in bar fights, a frequent occurrence, should also be prosecuted for assaults.

      Why do you excuse marines assaulting others? Because they wear a uniform?

      Do you agree if two marines get in a bar fight that the one who threw the 1st punch should be prosecuted and jailed then too?

      Any fight between any two people means one assaulted someone else so if anyone you know has ever thrown a punch 1st, they committed assault…right?

      Can’t have two sets of justice. Either you assault someone or you don’t. Doesn’t matter why. Assault is assault.

    695. jason says:

      Bitter, according to the clown, he is only saying you are statistically more likely to be a pedo than say the average person.

      You might ask him why he felt that comment was necessary.

    696. Bitterlaw says:

      I can read Jason’s posts. I don’t know why everybody else’s posts are visible but he can’t see his own.

    697. jason says:

      Assault is assault.”

      And self defense is self defense.

    698. Tgca says:


      I see Bitter’s mental illness is kicking in again as he sees and hears things not there. Maybe Jadon should put Bitter in a chokehold until Bitter expires.

      Don’t worry Jadon. I’d set up a GoFundMe page for you under the circumstances.

    699. jason says:

      I can read Jason’s posts. I don’t know why everybody else’s posts are visible but he can’t see his own.”

      I can see them too. AFTER I log out and log back in.

      How many times do I have to explain it.

    700. Phil says:

      “Can’t have two sets of Justice”

      Bragg doesn’t seem to have a problem with it over the last year.

    701. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – Everybody at HHR but you acknowledged what he has accused me of in the past. No need to ask him. He claims he won’t post in the lifeboat. I don’t believe him.

    702. Bitterlaw says:

      Once I log in, I can post multiple times all day. Maybe it is a perk of being the Administrator. I don’t know if the others are having your issue.

    703. Robbie says:

      David Wright

      North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum is seriously mulling a 2024 presidential bid, a source familiar with his plans tells CNN (via @KristenhCNN)

      – This is yet more proof that running for president in the Republican primary is more about gaining notoriety and popularity than actually running to win. This guy has the same chance I have to become president.

    704. jason says:

      Bitter, Tgca is a clown and full of crap. But he never called you a child molester or a pedophile.

      If he had, I would be the first to condemn him.

    705. jason says:

      Once I log in, I can post multiple times all day. Maybe it is a perk of being the Administrator.”

      Do you have to approve me in some manner?

    706. Tgca says:


      ummm…witnesses claim the homeless guy did not display any physical threat so there was no self-defense. Defending oneself implies defending against an attack not words.

      Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.

      Besides, he came up from behind the guy so how can be he defending himself when the guy is not moving towards him. It’s like shooting someone in the back as they flee. It’s not self-defense!

      There was only assault resulting in reckless death of another by the marine and he needs to be held accountable for it.

    707. Tgca says:


      Doesn’t matter what you say. His mental illness will see and hear what he wants.

      Put the f*cker in a chokehold please and save us all from his victimization whining.

      I’ll donate to your legal fund if things don’t work out.

    708. Tgca says:


      Bragg is scum and playing politics but just like a clock being right twice a day, the charge to the marine here is appropriate.

    709. Tgca says:


      Bitter is delusional as well as mentally ill. He makes up BS claiming EVERYONE agrees that I labeled him a pedo

      No such thing occurred.

      Lying POS!

    710. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason- He just called me a child groomer. What does that mean you when you hear it?

      I took off the setting requiring Approval of comments a week ago.

    711. Bitterlaw says:

      See you in the lifeboat, sad little clown.

    712. PresidentPaul! says:

      NATO now pushing globohomo as part of its agenda.

      Is there any doubt that Ron Paul was correct in calling for us to defund it?

    713. jason says:

      Is there any doubt that Ron Paul was correct in calling for us to defund it?”

      Yeah, Rand Paul is a nutcase kook.

      Anyone who listens to anything he says is a moron.

    714. jason says:

      Sorry, Ron Paul.

      Rand Paul is just a moron.

    715. jason says:

      guy did not display any physical threat”

      Saying I am going to kill you even if I get killed myself or go to jail is a physical threat.


      “A physical IN-PERSON THREAT is when you are in imminent danger because of the close proximity of the person making the threat.”

    716. jason says:

      This the correct strategy for the Golden Calf. A younger, more effective Trump that CAN WIN.

      None of this civil war BS Amoral Scumbag wants in order to get Biden elected.

      “DeSantis has been pitching himself as a younger, more vibrant option in contrast to 76-year-old Trump, and a steadier choice, without the ever-growing, historic legal dramas plaguing the former president.

      “Republican lawmakers gave DeSantis a bevy of conservative victories in recent months: They expanded the state’s school voucher program, prohibited the use of public money in sustainable investing efforts, scrapped diversity programs at public universities, allowed for the permitless carry of concealed weapons, and perhaps most notably, banned almost all abortions in the state.

      DeSantis has had help in readying the ground for his candidacy. A new political action committee supporting him, Never Back Down, which can raise unlimited funds, has been hiring staff in early-voting states and running TV ads championing DeSantis and knocking Trump.

      To date, DeSantis has stuck to a more indirect response to Trump’s attacks. As we reported in early April, the governor gave a rousing speech in Michigan and told it like it is, as he sees it: “Republicans have developed a culture of losing,” while “Florida has a culture of winning.”

      In Florida, we have a culture of winning, we have a culture of execution, and we have a culture of delivering results. And you need to be able to win. It’s not easy. When you stand for the right things in this day and age, man, you are going to have a lot of blowback. Leadership isn’t cost-free.

      You got to have the courage of your convictions. And you got to understand that whether it’s a governor, whether it’s a mother going into a school board meeting to protest some of the insanity, they’re gonna come at you, and you’re gonna have to make some sacrifices.

      But you know, I think it’s worth making those sacrifices — lord knows people have made much bigger sacrifices in the history of our country so that we could be free.”

    717. PresidentPaul! says:

      I just don’t know enough about DeSantis yet to know whether I like him.

      It’s very disturbing he won’t acknowledge that Trump is the rightful president though and not Joe Biden.

    718. PresidentPaul! says:

      Last time the GOP “trusted” a big shot redstate governor we got the worst president in the history of the United States.

      The fact that DeSantis is backing joe Biden should raise huge red flags.

    719. Bitterlaw says:

      733 James Buchanan was the worst US President.

    720. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 18, 2023 at 11:14 am
      This the correct strategy for the Golden Calf. A younger, more effective Trump that CAN WIN.

      None of this civil war BS Amoral Scumbag wants in order to get Biden elected.

      – Rerunning the Cruz 2016 strategy is a great way to finish second. For now, that seems to be the strategy every candidate in the race has adopted. It’s as if none of them saw what happened in 2016 when everyone ignored Trump for months and months.

      The way to beat Trump is to beat Trump. That means the other candidates have to make the case why he shouldn’t be the nominee for the third time in a row. In other words, they have to tell the voters things that might actually be negative about Trump. It’s what GWB did to McCain; it’s what McCain did to Romney; it’s what Romney did to Newt and Santorum.

      If the strategy is “Trump was great president with great policies, but I can do it better”, then those candidates will fail. Why go with “new Coke” when you can just have the original? The average voter does not make tactical votes. They don’t go for nuanced views. They go for those who are perceived to be winners.

      DeSantis and his team may think indirect responses to Trump are the way to go, but the last three months ought to be proof that’s not the case. Trump has pummeled DeSantis and DeSantis hasn’t responded. As a result, he’s fallen in the polls. It’s made Trump look aggressive and DeSantis look weak.

      DeSantis can’t fall into the trap Rubio did in 2016 when he believed he would win once it got to a one-on-one race. Voters didn’t reject Trump then and they won’t now if they aren’t given a reason why Trump shouldn’t be the nominee. If DeSantis is banking one winning by default in a one-on-one race, he’ll meet the same fate as Rubio and Cruz.

      Trump is twice impeached, indicted once already, likely to be indicted in two other jurisdictions, and was found civilly liable for sexual assault. Those are killers in a general election with Independents and suburban women. If the primary candidates are unwilling to make clear how serious these issues in a general election, then they might as well not run. Of course, I’m assuming the candidates are in this to win and not just position themselves to be Donnie’s VP or get a head start in 2028 when they’ll lose to Trump again.

    721. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – The impeachments and indictment were political garbage. I am not supporting Trump or DeSantis in the primary because of their refusal to support a Ukrainian victory. Whomever gets the GOP nomination gets my vote.

    722. Tgca says:

      DeSanctinonius is losing ground. Rasmussen has him down to 17% now in the primaries even though everyone expects him to run and he’s traveling all over and his Pacs are promoting him.

      I see it here in Floreedah. Trump is preferred over him.

      He just got embarrassed in his own state by talking about him leading the culture of winning and then endorsing a GOP candidate who then lost the largest GOP city in the US after 8 years of control, as well as his endorsed KY candidate losing.

      He endorsed a bunch of losing senators and gubbernors in 2022, just as many as Trump but he talks about leading in the culture of winning. He wins one race in Floreedah against a terrible candidate with low turnout and then thinks he’s the epitome of winning.

      Even Rick Scott lectured him today about sitting down with Disney instead of airing their differences publicly. Scott stated Floreedah needs businesses like Disney and that he had a great relationship with Disney. That’s a polite slight on DeSanctimonius.

      Scott, the most successful Floreedah gubbernor in 50+ years telling his successor in a nice sweet way to stop alienating business and act like a leader and work things out. That was the message!

      Sorry! DeSanctimonius is not going to bring down the Disney brand. People are still flocking to Floreedah to see Disney. They account for 45% of the state’s tourism. Disney will be around longer than DeSanctimonius.

      You can’t beat Mickey. DeSanctimonius should have quit when he was ahead as he’s now looking foolish, vindictive, and petty, especially after he got outsmarted.

      This is why business leaders like Scott and Trump are better than life-long gubbermint employees like DeSanctimonius who has never run a business or created jobs.

    723. Tgca says:


      There is no way in the world I will be joining your website.

      Ain’t gonna happen.

      I’d rather chew on glass.

      All good things come to an end. I’ve moved on from high school, college, grad school, jobs, cities, friends, etc so HHR is just another in that list.

      The vast majority of HHR posters have moved on over the years, it’s not that hard.

    724. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 18, 2023 at 12:13 pm

      Robbie – The impeachments and indictment were political garbage. I am not supporting Trump or DeSantis in the primary because of their refusal to support a Ukrainian victory. Whomever gets the GOP nomination gets my vote.”

      Sounds reasonable to me.

    725. jason says:

      As long as it is not “you have to feel my pain Haley”.

      I wouldn’t vote for her if she was running against Karl Marx.

    726. jason says:

      People are still flocking to Floreedah to see Disney.”

      Is that why they just fired Nate Silverhack?

    727. DW says:

      “There is no way in the world I will be joining your website.”

      The best news I have heard in a while!

    728. jason says:

      If the strategy is “Trump was great president with great policies, but I can do it better”

      Trump was a good president.

      No shame in acknowledging that.

      The Golden Calf can win as a better Trump.

      As the “anti-Trump” he will alienate the R base and will not gain ONE vote among independents.

      He will damage his brand forever, which would be a shame.

      The Golden Calf should run close to Trump policies (yes, even the ones I disagree with) and stay away from any war of words about Trump.

      He will need every last Trump voter to win a GE.

    729. jason says:

      There is no way in the world I will be joining your website.”

      That is too bad.

      I hope you will reconsider.

      You represent the Occupy Wall Street and the far left MSM viewpoints quite well, we need that perspective.

    730. jason says:

      “Adidas has launched a new women’s swimwear range for the brands ‘Pride Collection’ featuring male models wearing sports bras and women’s swimsuits.”

    731. jason says:

      So women will now wear swimsuits that look good on men?

      I guess women have changed over the years. Women used to wear clothing that looked good on women.

    732. jason says:

      Rich Lowry:

      “Merriam-Webster defines a vigilante as “a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate).”

      There can be loner vigilantes, of course. If, say, someone Penny cared about was harmed by a mentally ill homeless man, and he started riding the subways looking for mentally ill homeless men to take vengeance on, that’d be vigilantism. …

      Indications are that Penny (and his fellow passengers) sincerely believed Jordan Neely, suffering from untreated mental illness, was a threat to people on the train. There’s still much we need to know about the particulars of the case, but the impulse to protect others is deeply admirable and rare. …

      What progressives are doing is taking praise for someone who stepped up in a difficult circumstance and twisting it into something perverse, dangerous, and racist.”

    733. Bitterlaw says:

      The sad little clown could never quit HHR no matter how many times he said he was leaving.

    734. DW says:


      “Biden Admin Declares Chocolate Milk Too Dangerous for Children, but Puberty Blockers Are Fine”

      Sounds to me like an administration that knows the fix is already in for the 2024 election.

    735. Bitterlaw says:

      If the sad little clown does not take to the lifeboat, I guess we will just have to accept it. I will always remember him for his most vile, vicious post ever at HHR.

      I haver never looked for it in the Annals because I can’t forget it. By the way, sad little clown, her name was Katie.

    736. Tgca says:


      The Jesus freak is back!

      Please EDUMACATE us today on how the Bible is the Book of Truth again and inspire us with stories of rape, murder, incest and pedo behaviors from the Good Book of fiction please.

    737. Tgca says:


      Oh here we go again with the dead niece whiney thing.

      I could care less what her name was just like you could care less about my deceased brother’s name, you know, the guy’s who death you mocked before I ever said anything about your niece.

      Truthfully, your niece is nothing to me just like most strangers deaths are nothing to you so who really cares, right? I’m more interested in the weather than your family.

      Sorry to be blunt but lotsa misery in the world to worry about just one lost soul. Unfortunately, she chose her path. I understand she listed herself as an organ donor so kudos to her for giving to others.

    738. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 18, 2023 at 12:13 pm
      Robbie – The impeachments and indictment were political garbage.

      – The impeachments and indictment may be political garbage to a political partisan, but they aren’t necessarily to the mildly informed voter who doesn’t really follow the news as closely as you or I do.

      Those who are going to decide the race made clear in 2020 they were sick of the drama that always swirls around Trump. And poll after polls shows those same groups only feel stronger about that now.

      If the candidates running against Trump aren’t willing to tell their own primary voters hard truth about what renominating Trump for the third time means, then there’s no reason for them to run.

      I am baffled why Trump should not be subjected to negative campaigning the way every other person who’s ever run in a Republican primary has been.

    739. Bitterlaw says:

      The sad little clown will be vile and classless to the end.

    740. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 18, 2023 at 1:07 pm
      If the strategy is “Trump was great president with great policies, but I can do it better”

      Trump was a good president.

      No shame in acknowledging that.

      The Golden Calf can win as a better Trump.

      As the “anti-Trump”

      – No candidate is going to win as the “better Trump” so long as the original Trump is in the race. Making the case against Trump doesn’t make the Republican who does it a CNN or MSNBC host. It’s called campaigning. It’s called playing to win. Unfortunately, no one in the party is playing to win right now.

      Trump certainly had no problem making the case against the hero of the party in 2016, Rubio. And in the process, Trump all but ruined Rubio as a national candidate. Yet somehow, Trump shouldn’t be on the receiving end of the same thing he dishes out? Trump accused Ted Cruz’s dad of being part of the JKF assassination, but it would be wrong for his opponents to point out Trump’s massive flaws?

      Jeff Roe ran Cruz’s campaign in 2016. He came up with the “hug Trump” strategy. It was good enough to finish a distant second, but that gets a candidate nothing. Now, Roe is running DeSantis’s super pac and has come up with the same strategy for DeSantis to run. If DeSantis wants to finish second to Trump, he’s following the correct plan.

    741. DW says:

      And of course Tgca claimed at one point to be a Christian and against abortion. They he spews out that venom above against the Bible. Of course the Bible recorded what people did, which isn’t the same thing as saying what people did was approved of by God.

    742. Bitterlaw says:

      DW – Wes does not believe in God and views the Bible as literature and not revealed Truth. However, I don’t believe he has ever insulted anybody as a Jesus Freak or insulted their faith.

      Then there is Tgca.

    743. DW says:

      Exactly Bitter. Here is another headline destined to turn your cash into monopoly money if it ever happened:

      “Squad” Congresswoman Pushes for $14 Trillion In [Slave] Reparations

    744. Phil says:

      Wait. You opposed to giving the 14 trillion in reparations?

      Tgca to call you a white bigot in 3..2..1..

    745. DW says:

      I mean why stop at just 14 trillion?

      Lets borrow every penny from every nation in the world, and make it an even 300 quadrillion! And while we are at it, raise the minimum wage to $50,000 per hour!

    746. Robbie says:

      Chris Ryan

      Scoop: Multiple sources with direct knowledge are telling me that @ChrisChristie will be announcing a run for President in the coming days. The campaign will be focused on New Hampshire and will have the financial backing of Mets owner Steve Cohen, among others. #NHPolitics #FITN

      – Christie had many in the party begging him to run in 2012, but he passed. Then he ran in 2016 when no one cared. Now, he’s running eight years later when no one really cares. Well, Bitter cares.

      It’s 2016 all over. No one in the party learned a thing. It would be different if DeSantis, Pence, Haley, Scott, and Christie were all going to train their fire on Trump, but none of them will. Instead, they all try and kneecap each other hoping the last person standing will win a one-on-one contest with Trump. It won’t happen.

      I hope the party has a better strategy to beat Trump in the 2028 primaries, but they won’t. Even then, people like Jason fraud will still be arguing it’s mean to criticize Trump and the candidates should just say “he was great, but I’ll be better”.

    747. jan says:

      What is happening to bitter’s new site? The last post was from SanDiego saying “new thread.” If so, how do you access the new thread?

    748. Paul says:

      Christie was attacked viciously on Twitter the other night for being pro-Ukraine. I think a core group of the Republican world has lost their minds on Ukraine and are becoming Putin cheerleaders.

    749. Bitterlaw says:

      The most recent thread is from May 16th

    750. Bitterlaw says:

      Click on Reader at the top left. Then click on conversations.

    751. Marv says:


      Be sure to login before you cooment, then use you handle “Jan” when you are asked for your name.

    752. Marv says:


    753. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A list of past threads and the latest new thread are on the front page of the website. Click on “bitterlaw” on the front page.

    754. Tgca says:


      Clearly Bitter has dementia. Wes has mocked others on their religion, calling it fake, and degrading it a number of times. I recall debating him over it and I believe he even used the word fantasy or something like that.

    755. Bitterlaw says:

      So Tgca’s defense is that Wes acted like him? You. Go with that.

    756. Tgca says:


      I am a Christian but Christian institutions are known for being abusive and dishonest. I just don’t subscribe to all the Jesus Freaks trying to push their misinterpretations of the Bible and their radical beliefs on others like DW has in the past. I get he has trouble thinking for himself and has to cling to some things but the Bible is NOT reliable historical source.

      The Bible is a Book written by man over hundreds of years and stories passed down over a few millennia so there is no reason to take it literally. Much of it goes against morality today (incest, rape, slavery, pedo, murder, treatment of women, etc).

      Then we have STOOPID nonsense trying to interpret what was meant by certain parts when you contradict parts with common sense like someone living to 900 years old or Eve created from Adam’s rib or the earth being 6,000 years old or a myriad of other senseless things. How can you interpret what someone meant more than 2,000 years ago when there is no record of a discussion with them over it in the 1st place. The Bible has changed over time as well and been administered by religious people with an agenda to control the masses.

      The Bible is meant to be spiritual and not literal in all senses. Anyone that takes it all literally is illogical and ignorant of history.

      We can’t even get an accurate history of what politicians said a week ago yet we’re supposed to believe these are literally the words of God going back thousands of years? Bull dinky!

    757. Tgca says:


      As a Christian, I have a right to criticize my faith. We have a complete scumbag for a Pope in my view. A man that protected pedos.

      We had popes in the recent past that turned their backs on the Jews and let them die and high level religious leaders that conspired with the Nazis against Jews. However, that does not mean I can’t have faith in the religion just because the institutions and religious leaders are corrupt or lack decency.

    758. Tgca says:

      As for ABORTION, I am 100% against it. But I know you can’t effectively regulate it in most cases any more than you can regulate sexual activity of consenting adults, although the Jesus Freaks have tried to get that regulated too.

      I believe ABORTION will only be eradicated by changing people’s hearts and minds about how evil it is and how painful it is after certain period, and I hope science will one day prove that out.

      As the 4th child of a poor woman already with 3 kids in her teens and a physically and emotionally abusive husband, I was the baby that came years later that was supposed to be ABORTED so how could I not be against ABORTION? But for the grace of God, I was saved while 60M+ other babies were heinously murdered over the years.

    759. Tgca says:


      Why is Phil so sensitive about being a bigot? Embrace your diversity dude! We all have our crosses to bear.

    760. Tgca says:



      The last EVAH at HHR.

    761. jason says:

      Tgca says:
      May 18, 2023 at 8:46 pm

      As for ABORTION, I am 100% against it”

      BS. You sold out on abortion.

    762. jason says:

      “If DeSantis wants to finish second to Trump, he’s following the correct plan.”

      Hey Phil, remember when you asked when Amoral Scumbag would start attacking the Golden Calf.

      I said it would be just about when he actually announced he would be on the ballot.

      And we correctly stated it would probably start with attacks on his campaign.

      We are prescient. Or maybe we have just seen the movie too many times.


      Everyone here knew he would never vote or support the guy he called a total bum, clown and Trump clone.

    763. jason says:

      Even then, people like Jason fraud will still be arguing it’s mean to criticize Trump”

      I never said it was “mean”.

      I said Rs can win if they acknowledge Trump was a very good President if you are a conservative but it is time to elect a better Trump.

      Alienating Trump’s base is a sure path to disaster.

      There aren’t enough country club Rs to win elections anymore.

    764. jason says:

      Good approach.

      “The call, to which a New York Times reporter listened, came as the governor is expected to officially enter the presidential race next week, according to three people familiar with his intentions.

      [DeSantis] said the attitude of Republican voters amounted to, “We’ve got to win this time.” And while he praised Mr. Trump’s policies, he said that Mr. Biden had undone many of them.

      He did not take questions and was the only person who spoke on the call. But he suggested that his ability to respond to what he described as months of attacks would soon change, a veiled reference to becoming a candidate.

      “When we say we’re going to do something, we do it, and get it done,” Mr. DeSantis said of his approach in the state, an indirect contrast with Mr. Trump, whom some Republicans have criticized for unfinished work when he was president.”

      The Golden Calf needs to run on two “principles”

      1) Praise Trump’s Presidency and policies, but say he will make them lasting

      2) Only he can win

    765. Bitterlaw says:

      I am a Republican. I know many Republicans. I do not know any Republicans who belong to a country club.

      Maybe they exist where Jason lives.

    766. jason says:

      Zzzzz… it is just a term to describe a certain demographic, but Bitter knows that.

      Not every “soccer mom” has a kid playing soccer.

    767. jason says:

      “They” is a piece of work…

      “Sam Brinton appeared via CCTV from Montgomery County jail today before a judge who denied his request to be released and ordered him extradited to Virginia to face more charges of stealing luggage from DCA airport”

      He got a sweet deal in two other states, let’s see in VA.

    768. JeffP says:

      I just got a Trump email bragging and featuring his letter from King Charles. But DeSantis is the establishment candidate. LOL. Sure.

    769. JeffP says:

      Trump appeared in a marriage counseling session yesterday. The wife told her husband…”the only thing you ever talk about is something you want me to wear in bed and the latest dumb thing Trump said.” I had to gather myself as I about fell off my chair laughing. These weren’t country club types but typical suburban voters.

    770. JeffP says:

      Has anyone else noticed the MSM has been lying about the war in Ukraine?

    771. Paul says:

      How so, JeffP?
      Mostly they aren’t covering it like they should be.

    772. Tgca says:


      Coming from a guy who supports ABORTION that is funny.

      I’m still against ABORTION while you support it.

    773. Tgca says:

      This is how good samaritans handle someone who ACTUALLY assaults people in public that poses a threat. This guy appears much more physically fit and trained then a homeless man on a subway too, especially since he was a boxing student at the club.

      Notice they did not overreact or use lethal force to choke to death an obvious mentally ill man like a marine would.

      But what I find offensive about it all is that after gym personnel subdued him and threw him out of the gym they then canceled his membership. That seems EXTREME!

    774. Tgca says:

      Today Disney canceled nearly a billion dollar investment in Floreedah that would have brought 2,000 jobs to the state as the states largest tourist attraction bringing in 45% of state tourism.

      Looks like AOC and DeSanctimonius have more in common than not.

      Big win for Floreedah Ronnie on top of your endorsements losing the largest GOP city in the country after 8 years.

      This is what Rick Scott was talking about when he took a swipe at DeSanctimonius leadership.

      But then again, Rick Scott was a successful businessman who was the most successful Floreedah gubbernor in 50+ years and understands business and knows how to create jobs while DeSanctimonius has been a gubbermint employee his whole career.

    775. JeffP says:

      Let’s start with Patriot defense systems cannot stop hypersonic missiles. Ukraine isn’t even close to a counter offensive as reported.

    776. Tgca says:

      To be fair to DeSanctimonius, Disney is looking more at its business than trying to spite DeSanctimonius but they brilliantly timed this because most people will never get into the details.

      People will only read the headlines and see that Disney canceled a billion dollar project and assume it’s because of DeSanctimonius,

      Perception is reality.

      Disney outsmarts DeSanctimonius again and they let key Republicans jump in and opine on this ongoing fight, suggesting DeSanctimonius is not using good judgment for the state.

      Mike Pence now has come out to take swipes at Floreedah harming business in addition to Rick Scott’s admonition. Expect more to hit DeSanctimonius. His brand is crashing.

      The bad news in polls, losing the mayorship of the largest GOP city in the US, and now Disney officially killing a project is all bad perception for DeSanctimonius.

      …and with Christie now jumping in, he’s the pitbull who’ll try to take out DeSanctimonius 1st.

      DeSanctimonius is not going to do well against both Trump and Christie, two hard-nose tough politicians attacking him at the same time, and that’s not to mention the other candidates also hitting him.

    777. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      792. (1.) Ukraine is beginning to down Russian hypersonic missiles:

      #Ukraine: Today, reports suggested that a Russian Kh-47M2 Khinzal air-launched ballistic missile was shot down by air defences over #Kyiv at 02:40 on May 4th- for the very first time.

      The debris matches the unitary warhead assembly used in Kh-47M2 & Iskander-series missiles.”

      (2.) Does it surprise you the Ukrainians are not providing any information regarding a potential counteroffensive? Previous counteroffensives came as a complete surprise.

      (3.) The U.S. finally approved other nations providing F-16 fighter jets to the Ukraine. Several Europeans nations are in the process of providing F-16s to Ukraine, and their training Ukrainian pilots. F-16s can give Ukraine air superiority.

      (4.) Ukrainians are now gaining territory around Bakhmut, in what appears to be a pincer move. The Russians admit they are loosing territory adjacent to Bakhmut, a town the Russians have been attempting to take for over 10 months.

      The Russian targeting of civilians is a war crime. If Putin survives; he needs to be put on trial for war crimes.

    778. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Unlike the Russians, who are bathering about their military issues and shortcomings on the internet, Ukraine keeps silent. How Russian has let a private army (Wagner) basically run its own military operation in inane. It’s not so much Ukraine winning the war, as it is the Russians losing it by incompetency.

      “Announcing the start is entirely in the gift of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Declare the operation underway, and the clock ticks immediately for the first results. Say it has yet to get underway, and any mounting losses Russia sustains are just in the cut and thrust of normal frontline attrition. Over the past month, Zelensky’s obfuscatory comments that the operation’s “first important steps” would “happen soon,” or needed “a bit more time,” have just doubled down on Kyiv’s initial pledge they would not announce its start.

      It is possible we only learn the counteroffensive has begun when its first tangible results are revealed. A lot of what is happening is not playing out in public.

      The aim of this confusion is clearly to keep Moscow off-balance, unable to assess whether each new attack by Ukrainian forces is “it,” or just another probe.”

    779. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      792. “Let’s start with Patriot defense systems cannot stop hypersonic missiles.”

      “Russia is ‘exceptionally concerned’ and ’embarrassed’ after Ukrainian air defence shot down several of its ‘unstoppable’ hypersonic missiles, Britain’s MoD has said.

      Ukraine claimed its robust air defence system, made up of Soviet-era and Western-supplied weapons, managed to successfully shoot down 18 of Moscow’s missiles, six of which were reportedly hypersonic ‘Kinzhal’ rockets which Vladimir Putin once boasted were ‘unstoppable’.”

    780. Bitterlaw says:

      JeffP is concerned that Ukraine is lying about how many Russian missiles its air defense system has shot down. He is not concerned that Russia is firing missiles at Ukraine.

    781. JeffP says:

      I am concerned about being lied too about another proxy war. How many times has this happened in our lifetime?

    782. JeffP says:

      More Fake News…This was decided months ago…

      “Today Disney canceled nearly a billion dollar investment in Floreedah that would have brought 2,000 jobs to the state as the states largest tourist attraction bringing in 45% of state tourism.”

      It’s has nothing to do with DeSantis. Disney is losing money hand over fist. The last CEO ran it into the ground.

    783. Bitterlaw says:

      Let’s make this easy.

      True or False – Russia invaded Ukraine.

      True or False – Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has killed or injured tens of thousands of Ukrainians, destroyed Ukraine’s economy and infrastructure, and made millions of Ukrainians refugees.

      True or False – Ukraine has not surrendered because of US, NATO, and Israeli military aid.

    784. PresidentPaul! says:

      Ron Paul says FBI and CIA must be defunded.

      After the 2020 Democrat-FBI-CIA 2020 election coup, how can any republican disagree with this man.

    785. Paul says:

      PresPaul: no one cared the first time you posted that.

    786. jason says:

      I am concerned about being lied too about another proxy war”

      Nah, you are concerned the Russian missiles are being shot down and your hero Putin hasn’t been able to annex Ukraine.

      Fixed it for you.

    787. jason says:

      Ukraine isn’t even close to a counter offensive as reported.”

      Worried, huh?

    788. jason says:

      am concerned about being lied too about another proxy war.”

      Hilarious from a moron who actually believed Seymour Hersh’s geriatric fantasy.

      Btw, how is that conspiracy theory working out for you?

      If I remember, this was going to be big news that would ensure your man Putin’s immediate victory.

    789. jason says:

      The USSR is alive and well in the MSM…

      “MSNBC host Joe Scarborough recently offered as evidence of Joe Biden’s cognitive capability to serve as president the claim that the two enjoy late-night phone calls with each other to compare notes and offer each other feedback.

      Appropriately, the revelation occurred on a podcast called “Hacks on Tap” with longtime DC Swamp creature David Axelrod.

      Strangely enough for a purported “journalist,” Scarborough never divulges the exact contents of these discussions on his MSNBC show, which would seem to be of significant public interest.”

    790. DW says:

      Concerns vs Democrat solutions:

      Concerned about the food supply?
      Just start eating insects!

      Concerned about gas prices?
      Just start riding a bicycle!

      Concerned about foreign enemies?
      Just start rooting for them and displaying their flags!

      Concerned about the future for your grandchildren?
      Just let us mutilate your children’s genitals and you won’t have to worry!

      Concerned about the border?
      We will just let everyone in!

      Concerned about your retirement savings?
      We will take it away and waste it!

      Concerned about free speech?
      You can freely say whatever we allow!

      Concerned about the erosion of truth?
      We will bring back the Ministry of Truth!

      Concerned about the explosion of drug addition?
      We will give everyone clean needles!

      Concerned about the decay of our armed forces?
      Just start being nice and we won’t have any enemies!

      Concerned about homelessness?
      We will give all homeless a free shopping cart!

      Concerned about the judicial system?
      Never fear, we have google feeding us all the info we need to know if you are innocent or guilty!

      Concerned about election fraud?
      Just let us mail out ballots at a 3 to 1 ratio of registered voters, and we will add more dropboxes!

      Concerned about crime?
      It will go away once we legalize it!

      Concerned about what is taught in public schools?
      Your kids will be far better off learning about smut than Math, English, History and Science.

    791. jason says:

      Biden gives late night talking points to Joe Scarborough and the rest of the MSM.

      Democracy dies in darkness, says WAPO.

    792. Tina says:

      It’s really bad regarding the Fib.

      First, the Durham report. They spied on trump and blocked investigations into her Thighness.

      They got caught having embeds on j6. This means they knew about j6 and did not prevent it. What were the fib and other federal assets doing?

    793. Tina says:

      Elon Musk

      Replying to @shellenberger and @galexybrane
      “FBI says it won’t release Jan 6 surveillance video because it would show too many undercover government agents and informants”

      Uhh … this is insane!!

      How many were there? I’m mean … just approximately.

    794. Tina says:

      The stipulations occurred during court testimony. This is just the tip of the iceberg here.

      Robert Gouveia Esq.
      The Government stipulated to 8 confidential human sources being embedded amongst the 5 Proud Boys defendants. One of them picked the leader of the Proud Boys up from jail the day before Jan. 6th.

      Defense attorneys for the Proud Boys estimated there were 50+ CHSs in total from the FBI and DHS/HSI in the PB case alone, however the majority of that evidence was excluded at trial.
      6:35 PM · May 18, 2023

    795. jason says:

      Coming from a guy who supports ABORTION that is funny.

      I’m still against ABORTION while you support it.”

      You are a lying hypocrite.

      When I said I was comfortable with a 20 week limit you said that was way too long and called me a baby killing murderer.

      Yet when FL passes a law outlawing abortion after 3 months you oppose it just because the Golden Calf signed it. Frankly, I prefer 15-20 weeks but if you are really pro-life you should welcome 12 weeks.

      So don’t give any more of the of the “I am against abortion” BS. We are done with that lie.

    796. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca also claims to be anti-woke. He supports boycotts of everything from soda to beer to sports. But he condemns DeSantis for confronting the Woke Empire of Disney.

      If Trump changed his position – again – on abortion, Tgca would join Planned Parenthood and NARAL.

    797. JeffP says:

      Jason I understand you believe the intelligence cover stories in the media. I believe the intel sources reported by old man Sy. I think after all the CIA and FBI corruption being exposed in the last couple days it would at least give you pause.

      Do still believe Iraq had WMD?

    798. JeffP says:

      814 it’s fascinating to watch Trump change positions because DeSantis lives in his head.

    799. JeffP says:

      It took eight long years for Obama to corrupt the administrative state into a Woke Commie Dem mafia.

      I am voting for the candidate that will best address that damage. It will take at least eight years.

    800. Tgca says:


      The new GOP Floreedah ABORTION ban is 6 weeks not 3 months. I just don’t see how that effectively works without woman being forced into Monthly Menstrual Management (MMM).

      Most menstrual cycles can be 4 to 5 weeks since not everything is on clockwork for a myriad of reasons. Under the Floreedah rule, if women find out they’re pregnant at week 5, they have only a week to discuss with their significant other, visit doctors, schedule an appointment, and have the procedure. Not very practical.

      I’ve ALWAYS said you can’t legislate ABORTION anymore than you can legislate bedroom practices like Jesus Freaks have tried over the years. You can talk limitations at 15, 20 or 30 weeks because by that time you MAY have a viable being that can live outside the human body with proper care and medical advances but when you start getting into very early development and telling women they need to do MMM to avoid ABORTION deadlines, that’s where the problems will arise, especially with teen girls who make up over 20% of ABORTIONS and are NOT likely to run to their parents timely once they realize their cycle is late which means they’re forced to have babies in high school.

      You will probably lose 50%+ female support for the GOP on this issue alone that can drive women from the GOP for decades like AA were driven from the GOP.

      I can probably make a lot of money developing a Menstrual Management App so women can track these things but do you think MOST women are going to accept a lot of men telling them how to manage their menstrual cycles?

      I’ve been consistent and would challenge anyone on this logistically working at 6 weeks. I prefer ZERO ABORTIONS but that is simply impractical.

      Again, I prefer seeing programs where you change hearts and minds on ABORTION rather than forcing some impractical timeframe.

    801. JeffP says:

      Basically my position on Ukraine. Which is NOT pro Russian and IS pro Ukrainian people. They same crap is happing here already.

    802. Paul says:

      “Concerned about foreign enemies?
      Just start rooting for them and displaying their flags!”

      DW, That’s what some Republicans are doing these days.

    803. Bitterlaw says:

      JeffP – None of that happens if Russia wins.

    804. Tgca says:


      I have no problem with anti-woke policies. I’m in favor of keeping radical indoctrination out of school, left or right, especially for young children.

      However, I do have a problem with how you implement such policies and against whom you implement them.

      Weaponizing gubbermint against specific groups ONLY is both discriminatory, bigoted, and dangerous. That’s what is going on in Floreedah, Caleefawnyuh, and Noo Yawk.

      DeSanctimonius is obsessed with kids going to drag shows but is fine with them watching entertainers simulate sex acts in public and through various other mediums without taking any action.

      I voted for DeSanctimonius but he has NOW gone EXTREME in an effort to pander to those he hopes will propel him to the WH.

      When DeSanctimonius starts signing laws that do the following, we can talk about how I can support him in these efforts.

      1. Make it illegal for children to see any entertainment on TV or any venue with adult themes or that include partial to full nudity, and sexual simulations.

      2. Close down businesses like stores, movie theaters, and concert halls that allow children in with parents to see or purchase anything age-inappropriate, including buying music, magazines, etc

      3. Make it illegal to bring children to beaches where women are wearing sexually explicit clothing like thongs, string bikinis, and two piece bathing suits, and men wearing any swimwear that shows outlines of their genital areas.

      To me, whether a drag queen is in tights exposing her azz or some woman on the beach in a bikini is no different. They’re both exposing the same body parts. Same with a drag queen with protruding breasts and a woman in a bikini top. Both are exposing equal levels of breasts to youngsters and the question is why is it ok for one to do and not the other?

    805. Tgca says:


      I also think it’s funny a guy that supports every woke sports and loves Philly and wants to move there, a corrupt cesspool that would imprison every conservative if they could, has the audacity to question someone else about wokeism.

      Bitter gave wokesters a platform all through 20 and 21 and constantly props up Philly as a great city. Tells us all you need to know about his support of wokeism.

      Sounds like Bitter is no more serious about supporting conservative causes than Robbie though Bitter will virtue signal about it all day long for attention.

      Actions Bitter, not words have meaning.

      When you stop watching woke sports and leave that cesspool of Philly, we can talk about supporting wokeism.

    806. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzz. Only 12 more days of the sad little clown.

    807. Tgca says:


      Gawd Jeff needs reading comprehension.

      I stated in 793 that it was more a business decision but that Disney played it out publicly and timed it perfectly to cause a public relations issue for DeSanctimonius because perception is reality.

      It’s too late because the general public got wind of it in the news cycle and even GOP politicians are criticizing him and telling him to sit down with Disney because the state and Disney benefit from mutual cooperation.

      Again, Disney outsmarts Floreedah GOP.

    808. Tgca says:


      Zzzzzzzz. Only 12 more days of the woke grooming virtue signaler.

      …and only 6 months to the new HHR fails when it’s nothing but Ukraine 24/7 and calling others names when they don’t agree with Bitter’s Hollywood values.

    809. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – The ONLY definition of child grooming is when an adult tries to get close to children to sexually abuse them. Are you still denying that is the accusation the sad little clown is making about me?

    810. Bitterlaw says:

      And Hollywood values is worth a lot of points.

    811. Bitterlaw says:

      If Trump had the same position towards Disney as DeSantis, the sad little clown would march on the Magic Kingdom with a torch and pitchfork.

    812. jason says:

      Again, Disney outsmarts Floreedah GOP.”

      By closing down their own project that cost millions to develop?


    813. jason says:

      If Trump had the same position towards Disney as DeSantis, the sad little clown would march on the Magic Kingdom with a torch and pitchfork.”

      Exactly. All hypocrisy.

    814. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – It’s ok. You can admit the sad little clown called me a child predator.

    815. jason says:

      Jason I understand you believe the intelligence cover stories in the media. I believe the intel sources reported by old man Sy.”


      What intelligence sources?

      Hersh is a washed up delusional far leftist fraud with ZERO sources serving up slop for gullible morons like you.

    816. jason says:

      You can admit the sad little clown called me a child predator.”

      Show me the quote where he actually said that.

      Until then, stop the fake outrage.

    817. jason says:

      You will probably lose 50%+ female support for the GOP on this issue”

      Ahhhh….. I see.

      Tgca opposes abortion, except when laws against “lose GOP women”.

      Clown is generous.

    818. jason says:

      Which is NOT pro Russian and IS pro Ukrainian people.”

      JeffP thinks Ukraine as a Russian slave state tis “pro-Ukrainian people”.

      Of course, he believes the Norwegians blew up the Russian pipeline so there is that.

    819. Bitterlaw says:

      Show me the quote where he actually said that.

      Tgca says:
      May 18, 2023 at 12:41 am

      Speaking about child groomers.

      Tgca says:
      May 19, 2023 at 12:38 pm

      Zzzzzzzz. Only 12 more days of the woke grooming virtue signaler.

      There are 2 quotes for the A-hole. Since child grooming is to sexually abuse children, why are you pretending not to see what he is saying?

    820. jason says:

      What Tgca ACTUALLY said as opposed to Bitter’s interpretation.

      “But for the record, I have no reason to believe you’re a pedo”

      If you want to use his words to prove a point, why not use those where he ACTUALLY says you are not a pedo.

      Tgca has said a lot of stupid things about you. But the “he called me a child molester” is not one of them.

    821. jason says:

      Bitter believes in something Tgca did not say but does not believe something he actually said.

    822. jason says:

      My mistake, it is 6 weeks not 12 weeks.

      In my view that is way to short a period, no pun intended.

      But I don’t call myself pro-life.

      If you are really pro-life then you should welcome a law that “saves babies”, whether it is politically smart or not.

      Tgca only opposes the law because the Golden Calf signed it.

      Zero principles.

    823. Bitterlaw says:

      You are not this stupid. He called me a child groomer twice on this thread. A child groomer is defined as somebody who plans on sexually abusing children. His claim he is not accusing me of that is BS when he literally uses a term that can only be applied to a pedophile.

    824. jason says:

      Half of New York hotel rooms now occupied by migrants”

      NYC will be here to bleat ‘WE ARE WINNING” in 3,2,1….

    825. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – What do you think a child groomer is? In English, not Qu’chua.

    826. jason says:

      “But for the record, I have no reason to believe you’re a pedo”

      Why do you ignore what he ACTUALLY said?

    827. jason says:

      He said at least twice in this thread that you are not a pedo.

      You don’t believe him?

      “Only you know for certain your innermost feelings towards kids but I have no reason to believe you to be one even though you’ll rant I’m calling you a pedo when I say no such thing and instead point out the statistical basis on it since you brought it up.”

    828. jason says:

      “You’ll rant I’m calling you a pedo when I say no such thing”

      “But for the record, I have no reason to believe you’re a pedo”

      Seems pretty clear to me.

      If you believe he is lying that is another story.

    829. Bitterlaw says:

      Because what he said was not said in a vacuum. He followed it up by calling me a child groomer. Seriously. Do you know what that means? Would you want to be accused of that?

    830. Bitterlaw says:

      He is lying to give you cover to claim he is not accusing me of something. He used the grooming comment at 12:38. Why use that term if he does not believe it?

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    832. Phil says:

      Half of all NYC hotel rooms occupied by illegals?



      Keep sending those bus loads, Governor Abbott. Why should my state have all the fun?

    833. Tgca says:

      Groomer does not mean it’s sexual. That is Bitter’s definition and not the widely accepted definition, especially in slang or urban speak.

      Geez! What a F*ckin’ retard!

      …and no, I’m not saying you being a retard means it in clinical terms that you are a special needs person (though you appear specially needy), but instead slang just like calling you a Bish does not mean you’re a female canine.

      F*ckin’ retard groomer bish!

      Now chew on that!

      …and I don’t mean sticking your phone in your mouth and crunching away either. So don’t accuse me of telling you to each plastic, metal, and glass.

      Geez! Some peeps need you to explain EVERYTHING to them.

    834. Robbie says:

      Trump is decidedly pro-Putin when it comes to Russia’s war with Ukraine. Yet, those who are very pro-Ukraine in this forum (I am pro-Ukraine) also say they will vote for Trump if he’s the nominee.

      I don’t see how the pro-Ukraine/pro-Trump people square that circle. Supporting Trump means supporting Putin’s war aims in Ukraine. Putin wants the West to stop supporting Ukraine and Trump wants to stop funding to Ukraine.

    835. Bitterlaw says:

      Does the sad little clown get tired of getting caught in his lies?

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    837. NYCmike says:

      “I don’t see how the pro-Ukraine/pro-Trump people square that circle. Supporting Trump means supporting Putin’s war aims in Ukraine. Putin wants the West to stop supporting Ukraine and Trump wants to stop funding to Ukraine.”

      -4 years of ACTUAL GOVERNANCE show this to be a false statement.

      There is a chance that Trump would seek a different course than the current one, but Trump’s actions between Jan 2017-Jan 2021 do not, in any way, suggest that he will allow Putin to annex Ukrainian territory.

    838. NYCmike says:

      “F*ckin’ retard groomer bish!”

      -Looks like Tgca is really expanding his vocabulary!

      Good for you, sir!

    839. NYCmike says:

      #842 – All we need is “newer, comprehensive laws!” and everything will be solved!

      (apply this principle to guns as well, jason?)

    840. NYCmike says:

      “Today Disney canceled nearly a billion dollar investment in Floreedah that would have brought 2,000 jobs to the state as the states largest tourist attraction bringing in 45% of state tourism.”

      -Any links?

      Because the one I saw, with the bad headline for DeSantis, also mentioned Disney investing upwards of $15 billion in Florida, while the “lost billion” that Tgca is crowing about was a policy that the new CEO has stated PUBLICLY he did not approve of that move by the former CEO……..VERY ODD that Tgca left out that pretty pertinent information…….

    841. Paul says:

      Support for Ukraine, is in America’s “vital national interest.” “Degrading the Russian military is in America’s best interest and solves two problems at the same time without American boots on the ground. First, it prevents or reduces attacks on the homeland. Second, as part of NATO and land being contiguous to Ukraine, it will reduce the likelihood that Russia will have the weaponry or the will to attack on NATO territory, which would get us involved.” -Tim Scott, candidate for President 2024.

    842. Paul says:

      Sadly, Tim Scott will probably just split the non-crazy Republican vote further and make it easier for Trump.

    843. Tina says:

      The coke addict should be charged for obstruction here.

      President Obama BANNED from entering Russia after release of Durham Report

      (Human Events)

    844. Bitterlaw says:

      RIP; Jim Brown. You know you are a legendary player when you retired decades ago and people still say you were one of best NFL players ever.

    845. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      May 19, 2023 at 3:12 pm
      “I don’t see how the pro-Ukraine/pro-Trump people square that circle. Supporting Trump means supporting Putin’s war aims in Ukraine. Putin wants the West to stop supporting Ukraine and Trump wants to stop funding to Ukraine.”

      -4 years of ACTUAL GOVERNANCE show this to be a false statement.

      – Do you actually listen to what Trump says?

      Trump still believes the idiotic and insane conspiracy theory Ukraine has Hillary’s server with the deleted emails.

      Trump’s a disgusting fool who wants to end or severely curtail funding to Ukraine. That is a position that aids his buddy Putin.

      Nothing that happened during Trump’s presidency has anything to do with his view on Russia’s war in Ukraine.

      Sorry, but you can’t be pro-Ukraine and pro-Trump if you really care about being pro-Ukraine.

    846. Tina says:

      Really bad numbers out for Biden in several poles. While the economy continues to head south.

    847. DW says:

      A year ago I posted the account about a 1400-1200 BC curse table that archologists found in the material that came from the altar area on Mt. Ebal in the holy land. Now the full peer reviewed academic article has been released:

      The writing includes the name of the Israelite God YHW in proto-alphabetic script, when alphabetic letters were first developed from Egypt’s hieroglyphics.

      The reading of the epigraphers who were two of the authors of the article has been accepted as plausible by the three peer reviewers.

    848. Robbie says:

      Paul says:
      May 19, 2023 at 3:51 pm
      Sadly, Tim Scott will probably just split the non-crazy Republican vote further and make it easier for Trump.

      – Nikki Haley and Ramaswamy are running to be Trump’s VP. None of them think Trump will win, but they see value in being the VP pick because it can give them a leg up in 2028. Problem for them is Trump will run again in 2028.

      Sununu is running to be the 2024 version of John Kasich. He also knows, if he splits the vote, it helps Trump. If DeSantis wins, he probably wins the presidency and Sununu wouldn’t get another shot until 2032. That assumes Trump isn’t still running then.

      Chris Christie is running in an effort to remain relevant in Republican politics. He clearly regrets not running in 2012 and he hopes somehow, some way he can recreate the buzz that surrounded him in September 2011. Problem for him is no one likes him (other than Bitter). The establishment hates him because he kneecapped Rubio in NH and Trumpers hate him because he turned on Donnie.

      I think DeSantis and Scott are both running to be president. DeSantis has a chance to win the primary, but Scott doesn’t. Regardless, after you throw in Pence’s weird, no-chance run, the field is splitting just as it did in 2016.

      Maybe in 2028 Republicans will finally figure out how to stop Trump.

    849. Tgca says:


      Evidently Schumer’s Bish from NYC also suffers from reading comprehension.

      I already stated in 793 that the Disney cancellation had more to do with business than fighting with DeSanctimonius but Disney timed it in a way that widespread news coverage looks like it’s because of DeSanctimonius and that’s what got widely reported and both GOP (Pence and Rick Scott specifically) and Dem politicians lectured him on sitting down and working out differences with Disney instead of driving a wedge with Floreedah businesses so the perception is there that he drove investment out of Floreedah and that perception will not change because the news cycle is over and that’s what people will remember so once again, he got outsmarted by Disney.

      You may not like his politics but Iger is a savvy CEO and knows how to work things to his benefit, and he did it very subtly and noncombatantly that embarrassed the Floreedah GOP.

      It was all media manipulation just like when DeSanctimonius held a press conference to try and manipulate the public on sales tax rebates set aside for gas stoves in the Floreedah budget so he can get in on a national debate that has nothing to do with Floreedah because over 93% of people don’t use gas in Floreedah. He put a paltry $7M aside in a $117B budget, roughly .0005% which is like saying you put $.06 of $1,000 aside for your child’s education fund. Why would you have a presser on that?

      It was pure manipulation and that’s what Disney did to him in a week he was already criticized for dropping further in polls and losing the mayorship of the largest city in Floreedah and the largest GOP city in the country, as well as backing a failed candidate in KY that came in 3rd place, all murkying up his recent speech on being a leader that wins. He racked up a week of losses and egg on his face. When the ex-gubbernor of your state and former VP, both of your party, lecture you publicly on standard business relationships ships, it’s not really a good thing.

    850. Tgca says:


      I agree with some of your comments so I’m glad you must be following my EXCELLENT posts and regurgitating my EXPERT advice.

      The problem is, DeSanctimonius can’t win a GE in this environment because he needs to win a Dem state to get to 270 EV and he’s let the Floreedah legislator pull him so far right with EXTREME legislation, he won’t be able to get back to the middle to attract moderates in any Dem state.

      Trump and Christie know this and will beat him over and over on this, and he’s no match for their energy and quickness. He’s not good on his feet without a prepared speech, and he’s not a very likable candidate either.

    851. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      May 19, 2023 at 5:49 pm

      The problem is, DeSanctimonius can’t win a GE in this environment because he needs to win a Dem state to get to 270 EV

      – Do us all a favor and shut up.

      Go jack off in some MAGA forum.

    852. Tina says:

      It turns out the anti Disney stuff cost Florida $1 billion.

      That is a conservative estimate at that.

      I despise Disney, but this was very predictable.

      Desantis has had several bad weeks as a candidate.

      His people skills are lacking too. Lots of complaints by potential voters.

      Something is off.

    853. Tina says:

      But when you align yourself with Twitter groupies that are anti vax and pro social security cut that is what you get.

      Getting into the gutter with Biden over being anti vax and pro entitle,ent cut will not help us win a general.

      I also see that Rds is now trailing or tied with Biden in 4 poles.

      Not good.

    854. Tina says:

      The good thing it’s early and maybe he can get rid of the Twitter groupies/fire Pushaw and the other grifters.

    855. Tina says:

      Congress can, cut their budget and no new building.

      Then a new president thru executive order cut their size and scope.

      They are out of control and Biden’s gestapo.

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      Whoopsie Daisies! FBI, in “shocking abuse” of its authorities, illegally searched database for info on J6 protesters and other Americans. And why not? Who is going to stop them?

    856. Tgca says:


      That’s great debating viewpoint and why HHR has very few posters anymore.

      I don’t like your viewpoint so go jack off!

    857. Tgca says:


      Please tell me how DeSanctimonius gets to 270 without one of MI, PA, or WI.

      MI and PA have moved further left since 2020 and have a safety net with Dem built in voter guarantees.

      WI is the only realistic opportunity but WI just turned the high court Dem with a justice who ran on ONE issue – ABORTION. So I don’t think DeSanctimonius is going to be embraced by moderates there with his new 6 week ban which is really for most, a 100% ban.

      Trump was the only GOPer to win WI in over 35 years because of his relationship with working class there so if he can do that again, he would win in 2024.

      There is no other realistic route for the GOP but turning WI red in 2024 now that MI and PA seem lost for the GOP.

    858. Tgca says:


      DeSanctimonius is good with a favorable audience where he’s prepped, and because he has a supermajority legislature to get whatever he needs.

      He will not do well in an environment where he can’t get his way and throws a hissy fit.

      He is awkward, not energetic, and not very likable.

      I don’t see him connecting with voters out there especially after Trump and Christie start showing him up and he is NOT equipped to debate them and win.

      …and in the end, he is going to lose significant MAGA support because Trump will make certain of that which means he can’t win a GE. A number of my GOP acquaintances say they don’t trust him and would rather stay home or leave POTUS vote blank then vote for him because they see him as unloyal stooge for RINO donors and the establishment.

    859. PresidentPaul! says:


      100% agree.
      DeSantis keeps talking about running against Biden for president yet he won’t acknowledge that Trump is the rightful president and that this was a CIA/FBI/democrat coup that took place.

      If he was being honest he would be supporting Trump as the rightful president not playing along with a phony election against Biden (which will probably be rigged against him anyways)

    860. PresidentPaul! says:

      Turkey Calls out NATO’s LQBTQ+ Woke mandate.

      no one wants the US funding NATO anyways so it’s honestly probably for the best.

    861. Bitterlaw says:

      Anybody who would allow Biden to be re-elected over some F’ed up worship of Trump is a moron. If Trump gets the nomination, he gets my vote. If not, oh well. Time to move on.

    862. Bitterlaw says:

      Too bad Trump has abandoned the Ukrainians. He gave up my primary vote. Same as DeSantis.

    863. Bitterlaw says:

      Bio Mom has joined the lifeboat.

    864. PresidentPaul! says:

      Never forget the war criminal president the GOP told us we had to support last time to “stop Gore”

      “War on terror, a retrospective

      – Eight trillion dollars spent
      – Iraq is now trading in yuan
      – Assad won the Syrian civil war
      – Afghanistan controlled by Taliban
      – Saudi and Iran aligned against the US
      – And millions dead and displaced

      Conclusion: fight Russia and China next!”

    865. President Paul!! says:

      By the way, feeling a bit randy tonight. Anyone want to get together.

    866. Bitterlaw says:

      Stop with the handle stealing.

    867. NYCmike says:

      “– Do you actually listen to what Trump says?”


      I watch what he does, and look at what he did.

      Actions speak louder than words.

      Biden says the border is secure. I guess you believe him.

    868. PresidentPaul! says:

      America’s biggest criminal organization that fixed the 2020 election with the Democrats was spying on almost 300000 Americans illegally for the Democrats it’s been revealed

      “BREAKING: FBI improperly used FISA warrantless search powers more than 278,000 times ahead of 2022 elections against American citizens, FISA court filing reveals”

    869. Paul says:

      So, PresidentPaul!: Trump’s FBI was spying on people.

    870. jason says:

      and would rather stay home or leave POTUS vote blank then vote for him because they see him as unloyal stooge for RINO donors and the establishment.”

      Since you are already very comfortable with socialism I am sure they will be too.

    871. jason says:

      The real reason Tgca doesn’t like the Golden Calf is because he is advocating for real conservative policies.

      The Golden Calf is a conservative. Trump is not and never was a conservative.

      THAT is what bothers Tgca.

    872. jason says:

      Trump’s 30+ point lead at Predicted has been dropping steadily, now down to 20. It will fall further once the Golden Calf announces.

    873. jason says:

      Sorry, after paying reparations there won’t be any money left.

      “In 2008, California voted yes on a $9 billion bond authorization to build the nation’s first high-speed railway. The plan is to construct an electric train that will connect Los Angeles with the Central Valley and then San Francisco in two hours and 40 minutes.

      But 15 years later, there is not a single mile of track laid, and executives involved say there isn’t enough money to finish the project. The latest estimates from the California High-Speed Rail Authority suggest it will cost between $88 billion and $128 billion to complete the entire system from LA to San Francisco. Inflation and higher construction costs have contributed to the high price tag.

      The project has spent $9.8 billion so far, according to Brian Kelly, CEO of the California High-Speed Rail Authority.”

    874. jason says:

      The whole project was supposed be ready by 2020.

      “The rail authority said the goal is to have the section between Bakersfield and Merced operational between 2030 and 2033.”

      That is only 119 miles.

    875. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 19, 2023 at 10:37 pm

      Stop with the handle stealing.”

      You could have a rule on the new site.

      Steal handles and you will be banned.

      Of course, parody handles should be ok.

    876. Wobbles says:

      I oppose parody handles.

      Biden/AOC 2024!

    877. JeffP says:

      Trump koolaid drinkers are unbearable. His connections are far more establishment than DeSantis. The are wide and deep. I love how Lindsey plays him. Who was his mentor? Who introduced Melania to him? Trump is controlled opposition. The ruling elites don’t hate him they hate the people he represents.

    878. JeffP says:

      My problem with Ukraine is their leadership corruption. They have been in bed with both USA and Russia elites over many years at the expense of their own people. A pawn. Sound familiar?

    879. JeffP says:

      The Disney propaganda is ridiculous. They are losing money because of how they have been run and terrible PR. Their stock is down 50% since spring 2021. They are closing their overpriced debacle Star Wars hotel experience. Their app is losing subs at a record pace. They have raised the theme park prices to levels beyond a middle class family unless they want to go into debt. Their movies suck now. No creativity.

    880. Tina says:

      Don’t worry. The Rs will give more $ to this criminal enterprise.

      Jim Gagliano — a long-time defender of the FBI following a decorated 25 year career. That came after his service in the US Army following graduation from West Point — has now published an article in the New York Post disavowing the Bureau he was so proud to have been a part of based on the Durham Report.
      Many folks I know who worked with the Bureau over the past 3 decades have expressed similar views — including myself.
      It is no longer the agency we worked for and with. It’s current evolution has entirely different priorities and values when it comes to the relationship between the Bureau and the population it is supposed to serve and protect. This evaluation has come from changes in recruiting and promotion priorities over the past decade or longer.
      I’m planning an endeavor in the near future that will likely bring more focus to bear on what has happened — and what is happening.

    881. Tgca says:


      Much truth in that but the Devil is in the detail and the major stories people see are about a personal brawl between Disney and DeSanctimonus. Perception matters!

      Both Floreedah senators have now come out and criticized BOTH Disney and DeSanctimonius, basically telling them to grow up and sit down and work this out.

      Rubio and Scott both conceded how important Disney is to Floreedah bringing in roughly 50% of the state tourism, and it’s 2nd largest employer, and both commented that the legislature should not be in the business of retaliation because it sends the wrong message to businesses. Rubio went further to give an example how blue states could go after conservative brands like Chick-fil-A. Mind you, Rubio was leader up in Tallahassee and now he’s admonishing his old crowd.

      When your polls have dropped significantly and both your party senators, including an ex-gubbernor, come out and publicly chastise you, you’re in trouble. In addition, a number of other high profile GOP leaders have pretty much said the same thing about DeSanctimonius and I suspect it will get worse soon because Disney has decided to fight back, and that could pro-long the fighting.

      DeSanctimonius is NOT going to bring down Disney, a world-known popular brand. Disney is still HUGELY popular even in its business missteps, the reason they brought Iger back to steady the ship. Disney revenues were up

      Disney will outlast DeSanctimonius in Floreedah.

    882. Tgca says:


      Jadon is the one more aligned with leftists and Hollywood than anyone else at HHR. He supports:

      CHINA at any cost
      The US being Zelenskyy’s ATM machine at the cost of Americans.

      Jadon’s motto is UBA!

      Ukraine Before America!

    883. JeffP says:

      Ridiculous statement…DeSantis doesn’t want to bring down Disney. Woke Disney is their own enemy. I think Scott and Rubio need to look at Disneys balance sheet. The facts are in the numbers. Not your stupid analysis.

    884. JeffP says:

      Saying Disney is important to a states economy is a no brainer. Haley’s hilarious comment about moving to SC was stupid. Classic political poser. They aren’t going anywhere.

    885. JeffP says:

      Trump sends me an email Friday showing off his letter a few years ago from the now King Charles. You can’t get more establishment elite then British Royality in the west. Unbelievable.

    886. Tgca says:


      The weakness in Jadon’s argument is that DeSanctimonius is VERY well-known to GOP primary voters who expect him to run so there’s not much room for him to introduce himself as a different or unknown candidate.

      Also running as a younger Trump won’t help because it only means that’s he NOT the original or Trump brand. He’s a copycat or cheap knock-off version that won’t sell.

      He has been crashing in polls due to missteps and has alienated many in the MAGA movement.

      He’s being criticized by a number of high profile GOP leaders and pundits, including both Floreedah GOP senators for his obsession with culture wars instead of issues that matter most to everyday people.

      He is the Rick Perry or Scott Walker of 2024 me thinks, good gubbernors for their states who failed to connect nationally.

    887. Tina says:

      Rds campaign is stupid.

      Do t get me wrong. I will vote for him over the ccp corpse.

      However Disney pulled $1 billion investment.

      Going full anti vax is also stupid. Nobody cares about Covid any longer. Rds like trump has baggage on handling.

    888. Tgca says:


      I doubt Disney is going anywhere but people here are tiring of the drama. DeSanctimonius is looking petty, vindictive, and thin-skinned because Disney bested him and he needed the legislature to come in and save him after being outsmarted.

      It seems everyday he’s out there trashing Disney. It’s like an ex that can’t let go and has to constantly create drama over it.

      The problem for DeSanctimonius is he’s been a gubbermint or bureaucratic employee his whole life while Iger is a smart tough business guy who is going to run circles around him.

      Disney brought Iger back to fix Disney as it got off course. I suspect he will do that. The Disney brand is wildly more popular than the DeSanctimonius brand.

      The love affair with DeSanctimonius has been wearing off, as evident in numerous polls. He and his team created this false exaggerated image of him and peeps are now seeing through it.

    889. JeffP says:

      Tina that decision was made months ago. It’s political posturing using the media.

    890. JeffP says:

      DeSantis campaign hasn’t really begun. I am sure the lineup changes at Faux news are all about pushing DeSantis. It’s going to be wild.

    891. JeffP says:

      Hannity 8pm and Ingram 7pm won’t be pro Trump like 2016.

    892. Bitterlaw says:

      Every criticism of Tgca against DeSantis is based on his belief that nobody should be allowed to run against Trump. All the rest is zzzzzzzz. According to the allegedly anti-woke and pro-life Tgca, DeSantis is too anti-woke and too pro-life.

    893. Tgca says:



      All they have to do is pull a few of the DeSanctimonius executive orders, and videos of him threatening businesses and pushing for using masks and getting COVID shots, and that will expose his grossly exaggerated and lying claims of him being a superior leader on COVID.

      Also, they can put him on the spot to see if he got COVID boosters because he refuses to answer that.

      You can’t have higher COVID per capita deaths than CA, NY, and TX and then claim you did a better job than other states.

      You can’t end Covid unemployment benefits after CA and NY did and claim you were a superior leader than other states.

      All these make him look like Rep Santos lying and exaggerating. People don’t like being misled or lied to and I can see either other GOP candidates or MSM pushing him on the spot on these issues.

      He can’t hide these once he’s a declared candidate. They’re not going to let him slide on it. He’s going to have to give answers that can be easily verified with documents or videos of him.

    894. Tgca says:


      As usual BitterGroomer…or is it GroomerBitter, I forget…anyways, I’m glad I live in The Groomer’s head 24/7 and can contradict him with his double standard.

      The Groomer claims he will ALWAYS support a GOP candidate over a Dem candidate without keeping an open mind to where they stand on the issues but then he suggests there should be an open mind in the GOP primary and no favoring of Trump as the candidate.

      I guess The Groomer would support an abusive husband or pedo if they were GOP candidates against a religious Dem, because the GOP candidate is always better.

      I expect The Groomer would check off the box for David Duke over any Dem candidate too.

      That’s The Groomer’s logic. Rules for thee but not for The Groomer.

    895. Tgca says:


      HA! HA!

      As if DeSanctimonius is not out there political posturing everyday.

      He takes a few instances of drag queens in Floreedah and makes it out like it’s happening everyday all over the place when it’s not and then gets the legislature to pass laws so he can get airtime for it.

      He holds a press conference to talk about $7M he set aside in a $117B budget for sales tax relief on gas stoves which amounts to the equivalent of setting aside $.06 on $1,000 for savings when less than 8% of people use gas in Floreedah.

      He’s the King of Political Posturing and you’re whining because he got outsmarted and now most think Disney canceled a billion dollar investment because of him when Disney never said that but timed it to make him look bad…which he does to most.

    896. Tgca says:


      Fox News is losing its conservatives and MAGA audience so you think pushing DeSanctimonius is going to help them with their anti-Trump bias?

      MAGA will only turn more against DeSanctimonius for cozying up to Fox.

    897. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca continues to call me a child predator. That is the only definition of child grooming. I hope the posters at HHR recognize how sick and vile he truly is. Those of you in the lifeboat have already expressed your relief that he will not be posting there.

    898. JeffP says:

      Case in point the head of Russias Wagner private military group has claimed to have completely captured Bakhmut. This comes after just yesterday Ukraine claimed they were advancing and forcing Russia to retreat according to multiple outlets including the NYT.

    899. JeffP says:

      I agree BL. That level is Woke Commie Dem level. Trump supporters are really bad on Twitter with this crap. Nothing like 2016 when they were civil. Trumps demeanor and baseless attacks are sowing bad seed.

    900. JeffP says:

      Trump has DeSantis derangement syndrome…his followers follow.

    901. Tgca says:

      Oh puhleez!

      You have no idea of the various definitions of groomer and how it’s used in common slang and who it can apply to. You have hang-ups on being accused of child predatory behavior though no one here has ever made such accusations as far as I know. That’s your issue and not mine.

      People are called many names here and don’t take it literally and whine like you but then again, not everyone plays tje victin like you – remember your fav rant on accusing everyone in “den of vipers” being against you.

      But the fact that it annoys you is a good reason to use it over and over.

      Thanks for letting me know.

      Any other terms I should avoid that REALLY annoy you? Maybe pencil d*ck? Please advise.

    902. Tgca says:

      Many peeps left HHR because of The Groomer or wanted nothing to do with The Groomer or have routinely called The Groomer a liar so look in the mirror before suggesting other posters are unwanted.

      If people don’t agree with me or don’t want me to post at the new Bitter/Groomer-Jadon-LOVE Zelenskyy-or else you’re a Pootin Stooge site, they can tell me themselves without having you channel it.

      …not that it matters because I committed to leaving HHR at the end regardless, whereas you are the one afraid to let go and needingly clinging to something to avoid being alone or watching more cat videos on Youtube.

    903. Bitterlaw says:

      And you have provided none of those other definitions. Which proves you don’t have the balls to stand by your accusation.

    904. Tgca says:


      I don’t have to provide you any definition.

      Who the f*ck are you that we have to yield to your demands like you own this site you c*ck suckin butt lickin’ herpes infested Groomer b*stard.

      Go watch more cat videos and leave me be Groomer!

      Go now!

      Shoo! Scat! Be gone!

    905. Phil says:


      So you go out again being the dick you are and making a complete fool out of yourself. Fine……just as long as you go out. You are one classless sick f*ck. Adios MF.

    906. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca says:
      May 20, 2023 at 6:49 pm

      I don’t have to provide you any definition because I can’t. You already posted the only definition.

      Fixed it.

    907. Bitterlaw says:

      I will take “Things Tgca said to his first boyfriend when they broke up for $400”

      What is, “you c*ck suckin butt lickin’ herpes infested Groomer b*stard.”

    908. Wes says:

      Well, I guess Jason can’t pretend Tgca doesn’t call Bitterlaw a pedophile now.

    909. Robbie says:

      Christopher Cadelago

      Doug Mastriano to the Philadelphia Inquirer: “No one else is gonna beat my drum. It’s going to have to be myself. I’m a once-in-a-lifetime candidate for this.”

      – Watching the Republican Party burn itself down because it has fallen in love with con artist is really sad.

      Trump’s accidental win inspired a whole generation of no-hope candidates.

    910. Robbie says:


      I was sorry to read that you’re going through such a difficult time. I hope you’re able to beat this quickly and recover completely.

    911. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca leaves HHR frequently. Always comes back. At least his puppet master was true to her word.

      Wes – Jason always finds a way to refuse to see whatever everybody else sees about Tgca.

    912. Tgca says:


      Adios to you Phil too.

      Give my regards to your wife, kids, and the rest of the bigots like you in TX.

      You won’t have me to defend you when Bitter turns on you and is accusing you of being a Pootin stooge again.

      Hugs and kisses

    913. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – Alleged conservative sad little clown likes to use the MSM/BLM tactic of accusing all Republicans of racism.

    914. Tgca says:


      Oh lookie here. Wes, the guy who takes advantage of emotionally damaged women for sexual gratification, according to Bitter, has returned after his humiliating hiatus for his astronomical failed predictions in the 2022 midterm elections to defend the guy that basically accuses him of immoral acts with people suffering from mental illness.

      Even Polaris did not screw up as bad as Wes did in political predictions. Such arrogant mocking self-assured predictions that failed on an epic level.

      I guess Wes should stick to giving back rubs instead of giving political predictions since he’ll never make it as a political analyst.

      Somewhere Polaris is smiling he no longer holds the top spot at HHR for the worst political predictions thanks to Wes.

      …and please Wes, keep your 2024 predictions to yourself.

    915. Tgca says:


      Just like you like to claim everyone is against you or that you’re not woke but you support woke programs while patriotic Americans turned away from them.

      You love to play the victim!

      Remember your “This den of vipers at HHR are against me” rant?

    916. Bitterlaw says:

      It’s Pit of vipers.” Try to keep up.

      They all know you are a clown.

    917. Wes says:

      Aw. Poor widdle Tgca launches into his trademark lies and personal invective because I stated the obvious.

      Isn’t that cute? The garden gnome who claims to be a bodybuilder has to compensate for his lack of stature in all ways by acting like the little bitch he is.

    918. Tgca says:


      Yes, I’ve been on and off at HHR for years depending on my schedule but what’s that to you?

      You seem to live here, as if you have nothing else going on in your life the last 2 decades.

      The Groomer refuses to see what we all saw of him in 2020/2021 when he supported wokesters and woke programming and woke Philly with its good and bad parts.

      Most mock Wes for his anger outbursts ranging from Wescon 5 to Wescon 1 within seconds.

      Most accuse Jadon of calling people names or lying when he disagrees with them.

      Most accuse Robbie of being a secret Dem supporter.

      NYC is accused of being Schumer’s Bish!

      The list of accusations about folks here by others go on and on depending on the debate at hand. Big deal!

      Many who took sides with me before against you and your false accusations but are now against me because I refuse to support DeSanctimonius.

      Wait until the focus is on Ukraine again, and they’re whining about your accusations, and there’s no EXPERT in all things except all things gay to which I defer to LisaB, to support them.

      Alliances are fickle at HHR.

      Sorry! You won’t have TGCA to kick around any more, because, gentlemen, this is the last thread I’ll be posting on. Now GFY!!!

    919. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe you should have spent some of that time away feeding your fish.

    920. Tgca says:


      Oh Wes got his woodle feelwins hurt because he humiliated himself and left HHR after lecturing and mocking everyone that disagreed with him about the 2022 midterms and got egg on his face after the results came in.

      I think me and my good friend Jadon, the vile meat-eating mental midget, were the only ones refusing to buy into the Big Red Wave that turned into the Lil’ Red Ripple because of fraud and crazy folks just moving towards the Dems promises of freebies

      You can make alliances for NOW with The Groomer who claims you take advantage of mentally ill women but the fact is, you displaced Polaris for the top spot in the Worst Political Predictions at HHR. Sorry Wes. Own it!

    921. Tgca says:


      Maybe you should have spent more time away from HHR raising your kids so they didn’t become leftist BLM and Antifa supporters?

      Oh wait! You claimed you raised independent intelligent thinkers. That’s what the Philly lovers call leftists these days.

      So tell us again how many in your family voted for Fetterman please.

    922. Bitterlaw says:

      The sad little clown is emptying the clown car of all his baggage tonight tonight. Not sure he will even make it to the end of HHR at this rate.

    923. Bitterlaw says:

      None of them ever supported BLM or Antifa. The thought of a childless sad little clown with no family relationships discussing children and family is so sad.

    924. PresidentPaul! says:

      Starbucks’ newest commercial features drag queens in desperate need of coffee

    925. Tgca says:

      I notice The Groomer doesn’t deny he raised leftists and whether they voted for Fetterman or not.

      Perhaps society would have been better served if you were sterilized instead of adding more leftists to the gene pool.

    926. Bitterlaw says:

      I did not raise leftists. My daughter thinks Democrats are clowns and my son thinks liberals have no answers.

      Fortunately, the sad little clown’s act dies with him. No family. No children. No husband. He will probably be found when the smell of dead fish is worse than usual and the neighbors call the police. He will be lying on the floor holding a picture of Trump and wearing his MAGA pajamas.

    927. Tgca says:


      So who did your family vote for? Fetterman? Shapiro?

      Stop deflecting.

      As for mocking people’s deaths, you should look at how various people died in your own family before wishing ill will in death on others because that may be your fate as well, though I would not wish it on you because unlike you, a good Catholic forgives STOOPID things people say in posts to temporarily make themselves feel better when they’re losing a debate.

      So hopefully you’ll find peace some day whether it be through Christ or cat videos, and you can even visit my cloud up there so we can harp together, assuming St. Peter let’s you through the gates.

    928. Bitterlaw says:

      Zzzzzzzzz A good Catholic does not mock other’s faith by calling them Jesus Freaks. At least you are finally being honest in your accusations against me. You accuse me of being a child groomer – a sexual predator of children. You deserve no further answers. Rage on in all of your sad little clown glory.

    929. PresidentPaul! says:

      Vivek Ramaswamy gave a speech today (running for GOP nomination)

      Certainly worth following him. I find him interesting.

    930. Tgca says:


      Again you distort facts to play the victim or misinterpret the situation.

      Jesus Freak is mocking and deservedly so for those that put themselves on pedestals who think if you don’t live by the literal words of the Bible you’re going to Hell or not worthy. It is not meant for faithful Christians who don’t harshly judge others.

      I do not mock the religion since I read the Bible myself and have a number of them around the house and a miniature one in my briefcase, including a collection of a few dozen religious books.

      I mock the HYPOCRITES who try to condemn others with the Bible verses.

      I remember a lot of these Jesus Freaks mocking people dying of AIDS in the 80s and 90s. I know quite a number of people who died of AIDS and suffered the humiliation of it and though many exposed themselves to it via their lifestyle choices, some unknowingly of the consequences, no different than those breeders who met similar fates from smoking, alcohol and drug abuse, promiscuity, obesity, etc, you don’t wish suffering and death on and mock dying people because they don’t live up to your standards in a book written a couple thousands years ago from unreliable stories passed down hundreds of years later to men with a vested interest in pushing their religious views to the poor masses.

      Most people who died of AIDS were good decent people but these Jesus Freaks had no compassion for them and their suffering and gloated during that era.

      So until you were directly exposed to such vile hatred from Jesus Freaks, you should understand why I mock them, as a person who is also a devout Christian.

      Jesus would not approve of these Jesus Freaks and some of our posters who have behaved as such in the past as well. Perhaps you should go back years and read some of the posts by those with contempt for gays and those with AIDS and you will understand my contempt for them.

    931. Bitterlaw says:

      AIDS was a devastating tragedy whose victims did not deserve anything but compassion and care. People who declare how devout and religious they are are Pharisees. Both can be true.

    932. Tgca says:


      I don’t consider myself religious. I consider myself privately devoted to my faith. I NEVER discuss my religious views with others unless asked and most have no idea I am even a person of faith because I’m very private about it.

      My favorite possession is my cross which I never remove and fall asleep holding every night.

      Most think that obnoxious pushy in-your-face sarcastic loud mouths from Jersey who are gay can’t be a faithful Christian. I am living proof that is a fallacy. We all have our good attributes!

      Perhaps it’s a left over remnant from when I wanted to be a priest but not sure what kind of congregation I would attract with my language and annoying wit.

    933. PresidentPaul! says:

      I’m pretty sure Jesus didn’t like crosses.

      Just saying.

      It’s like worshipping Vlad the impalers spikes.

    934. Tgca says:

      As for AIDS, I have mixed feelings because I think the 1st generation had no idea what their promiscuous lifestyle of 40+ guys annually on average would bring them, even though I can understand how many became entrenched in that lifestyle.

      Though they were treated badly with little to no compassion from most during their suffering, I don’t agree with gays placing blame for the epidemic on others, then or now. It’s like smoking or other lifestyle choices that catch up to you but again, we should always have compassion for people suffering and dying, regardless of it’s cause.

      I still get sad and upset with many today that still put themselves at risk after 40+ years of the epidemic when they should know better. Haven’t we learned from the past?

      We still have 30K to 35K annual HIV infections annually of which around 70% are men-on-men encounters with most of it being in age groups of 25+. We also have over 13K dying of AIDS annually with the vast majority being gay men.

      Many people get a false comfort with the silly Not Detectable, Not Transmittable belief since detectability can change abruptly based on general health changes or failure to keep to a medical regimen.

      All that being said, I will never understand the hatred and joy of many, specifically self-professed religious Christians when gays suffered and died from AIDS, anymore than I can understand how many Germans hated the Jews and sought their genocide.

      It’s incomprehensible to me that people of faith can be that way and it shows we all have the capacity for evil and wickedness, if we can both profess faith and such hatred towards others at the same time and find ways to rationalize it.

    935. Tgca says:


      Ha! Ha!

      Bad Jesus joke but I don’t take offense any more than those that made me laugh claiming Jesus did not eat M&M’s – because they fell to the ground from the holes in his hands.

      …or why it’s likely Jesus was gay – long hair, wearing dresses, sandals, and hanging out with 12 guys who ditched the women in their lives for a dude who fasted and drank wine – straight guys don’t fast or enjoy wine. HELLO!

      OK. I will need to do extra prayers for those tonight even if the Good Lord has a sense of humor…hence, the reason, I’d never be a good priest sharing such humor with my congregation.

    936. Wes says:

      You are a motherf ucking lying piece of s hit, Tgca. I don’t know where you get this obsession with my supposedly having the worst prediction record on HHR, but if it’s true then you should be able to allude to it.

      By the way, how’d that 2020 prediction work out for you? You told us for years Trump was guaranteed to win. Then he lost, and because you can’t ever admit to being wrong, you immediately jumped on the “Stop the steal!” bandwagon as a coping mechanism for your complete and utter failure to predict the most important electoral outcome in history to you correctly.

      I want to see the numbers justifying saying I have “the worst prediction record on HHR.” Chop to it , garden gnome who thinks he’s a bodybuilder.

    937. Tgca says:


      We are at WESCON1.

      Report to your battle stations!



      We are at WESCON1.

      Report to your battle stations!

    938. Tgca says:


      Go back and look at your posts. For weeks, if not longer prior to the 2022 midterms, you were predicting a bloodbath for the Dems and mocking anyone that disagreed in your usual “I know more about politics than anyone here.”

      You misread an entire election across the spectrum at all levels claiming …based on history…blah! blah! blah!

      At least Polaris was wrong about one race and admitted it. You got it all wrong! …and won’t admit it!

      When it did not pan out the way you predicted, you left HHR in humiliation with your tail between your legs.

      You arrogance and overconfidence led to your comeuppance with your epic failed predictions.

      Go back to school and refresh yourself on your worthless PoliSci degree.

      You failed to acknowledge how the electorate changed between the voters wanting more socialism in many places and voter fraud and manipulation in other places.

      The world is changing and maybe it will change back but you were as about as accurate as Neville Chamberlain with Hitler.

      But no worries! Your bruised ego will heal in due time, as some of us take your predictions with a grain of salt with your “as go North Carolina, goes the US” naïveté.

      …and for the record, as the last couple of years showed, Trump was likely the truthful REAL winner in 2020 given the level of voter fraud and manipulation…and nearly 75% of the GOP and 40% of the electorate now agrees with that regardless of what happens in North Carolina.

      Now Bless Your Heart Sweetie and you have a good night.

      Love ya!

      Hugs and kisses.

    939. Wes says:

      I KNEW IT!!!!






    940. Wes says:

      By the way, Tgca, if Bitterlaw wants, he can repost it here, but I actually predicted Republicans would underperform in 2022.

      That’s my actual prediction from last year as another person who isn’t a lying ass wipe can attest.

    941. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes- Not worth it. When challenged, the sad little clown just attacks. He says there are many definitions of groomer other than sexual abuser of children but won’t produce them. I don’t recall your 2022 predictions but, given your failure to be a member of the sad little clown’s Trump cult, I doubt you had high expectations for the GOP that year.

    942. Messy says:

      the worst prediction here on HHR was that there’d be a President Romney.

    943. Robbie says:

      Messy says:
      May 21, 2023 at 10:16 am
      the worst prediction here on HHR was that there’d be a President Romney.

      – The delbov curve, the Bradley effect, and poll skewing.

    944. Phil says:

      Wes’ prediction record on NC political elections has been remarkably accurate over the last 16 yrs that I’ve frequented this site. That’s just a fact. The guy knows politics in his home state. I’ve asked his opinion on just about every statewide and congressional election in his home state. He’s yet to miss on a single election. Again, that happens to just be fact.

    945. Robbie says:

      I’m still hoping there’s a way to keep this site operating.

      I like the way the posts appear. I like the size of the posts. It all just works.

      I don’t know if the url “” is available (or something similar, but, if there’s a way to transfer this site to a new url address, let me know. I’ll help financially.

      And none of this is diminish what Bitter is doing. I appreciate his willingness to build a lifeboat. I would just hate this lose this actual site.

    946. Phil says:

      My preference also would be to keep the site as it is. That would be the ideal for the reasons cited by Robbie. Whether that would be possible I don’t know.

    947. Tgca says:


      As usual Wes tries to bluff me to prove he’s wrong and then when I show posts proving it, he excuses them away. His MO!

      This guy can’t stand being wrong or shown up and he goes into tirades calling everyone names like above when called on it because he’s insecure.

      I think we need a new WESCON level to show his uncontrollable anger. I give it a WESCON 0!

      I’m not going back months in the archive to find a litany of your lectures on how it is doom and gloom for Dems with all the bad things going on under Biden and the economy to only have you explain away your own posts showing what I claimed you said.

      Wes predicted 2022 would be more like 2010 or 2014, that’s when the Dems got slaughtered. He predicted they would “take it on the chin nationally.”

      That’s the thing about the internet. Your posts are out there. You were confident of big wins for the GOP nationally. It didn’t happen! The Big Red Wave became a Lil’ Red Ripple.

      YOU WERE WRONG! Admit it! Your predictions SUCKED dude! Worse then Polaris but at least Polaris accepted his model had errors on turnout.

      So here’s one iota of proof you challenged me to find. This post took me less than 2 minutes to find. I’m sure there are many more in the archive.

      Now that I’ve proven you wrong AGAIN with your own posts, please feel free to explain them away as not really saying what you actually said. Your post oozes with your overconfidence and arrogance that resulted in egg on your face and you leaving HHR in humiliation for being soooooo WRONG.

      Where I come from “take it on the chin” means suck it up because you just got your ass whooped and comeuppance in front of all, it dies not mean caution is advised.

      Nov 3, 11:14AM Post #49 Wes says:

      Democrats have dusted off Barack Obama and sent him to battleground states.

      On the one hand, this makes sense because Obama is significantly more popular than Biden and is the most well-liked living former Dem President. On the other, Obama’s record post 2008 of helping Democrats win is not all that great. He was a disaster for Dems in 2010 and 2014 and helped them very little to not at all in 2016, 2018, and 2020. Since 2022 is going to be more like the first two elections than the last three, I don’t know why Obama’s even wasting his time. He should just sit on the sidelines while Dems take it on the chin nationally.

    948. Tgca says:


      You can apologize to me when you get a chance Bitter since I just proved what Wes claims he didn’t say he actually said.

      I prefer a box of chocolates but not too sweet and nothing cheap. The good stuff please…and no flowers please, I already have enough plants to manage.


    949. Tgca says:

      970 Wobbie

      The HHR URL is tied to the davidwissing URL. Either one will direct you here.

      I highly doubt Dave W. is going to give control of his personal URL to others. There are ways to disassociate them but that’s gonna take some administrative work on Dave’s side and he seems to really want to let go at this point so not sure he’d be up to that extra work.

    950. Wes says:

      So, no numbers in a post that was pretty much in line with the general sentiment at the time. As I said, Tg, you, sir, are a motherf ucking liar.

      That’s literally all you have. All right. Clearly Democrats over performed expectations in 2022, and at the point I made that post, I apparently agreed with the common sentiment that Republicans would have a better year than they had.

      Thanks for posting truth for a change rather than your exaggerated characterization of what I actually said.

      See, I’m going to do something now the garden gnome with aspirations of bodybuilding can never do. I’m going to admit that prediction was wrong. It wasn’t the Polaris-level inaccuracy you tried to make it out as, but it was wrong. Fair enough. All that means is that I underestimated have much of a drag Donald Trump would be on the national GOP in 2022.

      Well, since corrected since I am going to outright say Trump will lose decisively to Biden next year and drag the party down with him again.

      How do you like that, bitch?

    951. Tgca says:


      I would expect someone would get the predictions in their home state more accurate than others because all politics are local. No one faults Wes there but he frequently ridicules others like NYC and Tina as being liars and morons for their political viewpoints when they don’t align with his.

      I could tell you with pretty good accuracy at any given time how Floreedah outcomes will result. It’s common sense for most following local politics to do that unless there’s an unusual election surprise since the vast majority of incumbents win re-election.

      However, Wes tired to argue there was no significant fraud in 2020 because there was no such fraud in NC. An enormously STOOPID and naive argument. Jadon and me sarcastically mocked him on it for quite some time about “as NC goes so does the US.”

      Wes’ argument was if there was fraud to overturn results in PA, AZ, GA, or elsewhere then it would have happened in NC too and because no such fraud occurred in NC, then he KNOWS it did not happen elsewhere so Trump legitimately lost in 2020 because of his personality, and anyone that disagrees with Wes is a “liar, idiot, moron, [insert derogatory slur here, preferably laden with profanity and in CAPS]!”

      That’s like saying if there’s crime in one city, then there’s bound to be the same level of crime in other cities.

      The fault in that logic is it does not take into demographics and local politics.

    952. Wes says:

      By the way, bitch, I found this prediction I made to Bitterlaw on a different forum last year:

      Since 2020, Americans have perceived Trump as an egomaniac solipsist because of his flagrant attempt to steal the election he’d lost. His refusal to melt into the background even temporarily since his defeat has galvanized Democrats to go to the polls. We have objective electoral evidence of this, NY-19 being the most recent example, though of course Dobbs was an obvious factor as well in the recent specials.

      People like Liz Cheney deserved to lose. Trump did himself no favors by targeting the GA elected officials though for refusing to unlawfully overturn an election for him. Trump has developed a cult that regards any and all failure to be rigidly loyal to him as unforgivable apostasy. Americans see this going on in the GOP and–rightly–associate Republicans with Trump sycophants. They thus are expressing their displeasure at the ballot box.

      As such, I don’t think Republicans will have nearly as good a year this year as they could. On paper, that shouldn’t be the case, but empirical evidence says it will. The irony is that Trump has turned the Republican Party into such a vehicle for his own cult of personality his attempts to blame the November results on others will be clearly disingenuous. This will likely seriously damage his bid for the 2024 nomination as well since someone like Ron DeSantis will have massive electoral success in a critical state and will be able to present people with a fresh face not associated with a lackluster midterm result.

      At worst you can say I had different thoughts on the midterms at different times. For the record, this one was spot on. Let me be the first to repeat you are a lying piece of s hit.

    953. Phil says:

      Yeah, Trump in a general election is indeed Biden’s salvation. He has far too much baggage. Kills him with independents and without independent that’s the old ballgame. The fact is, that Trump is looking at probably two more indictments by primary time. Are they bogus indictments? Of course they are. Won’t matter. Damage done.

      Biden will be in sad mental and physical shape by general election time – which is why I think he’ll be replaced – and not by Kamala. The usual Democratic kingmakers will get together and consolidate around their agreed on candidate – just like they did with Biden in 2020 and that will be all she wrote. We’ve seen this movie before.

    954. Phil says:

      Of course, Trump not getting the nomination means he will encourage his base to stay at home come GE time. Typical Trump type move….and of course no Republican can win with a significant number of the base not showing up at election time.

      Damned if you do, damned if you don’t nominate the guy. Maybe if Trump drops dead it changes the whole dynamic. Aside from that, not looking good for the good guys. Sad. Another 4 yrs of leftist rule on top of Biden’s disaster of the last four year will finish this country in my humble opinion.

    955. Tgca says:



      Is that all I have? REALLY? Actually, that’s all I need!

      It’s like getting caught red handed robbing a bank and later claiming “is that all you have” in court.

      It decisively shows “you actually said what I said you said even though you say you didn’t say what I said you said and you dare me to prove what I said you said so when I then prove to you what I said you said you now admit you did say what I said you said.” Got it!

      Now you want to caveat it with exact numbers when your own post characterizes it in words like:

      2022 would be more like 2010 and 2014 – which is when the Dems got slaughtered and lost over 60 seats, and

      Dems would take it on the chin nationally

      Come on man. Stop digging your hole deeper.

      Again, both those statements imply a major loss and exact numbers are not needed to prove the point. I’m going on my recollection as I don’t memorize every post. You were overconfident and arrogant, as well as dismissive and mocking towards others is what I recall and you expected the GOP to have a big win.

      Your own words imply a major GOP victory unless you now think 2010 was a Lil’ Red Ripple when the GOP won 60+ House seats and a large number of senate seats too for like the biggest gain in like 60+ years.

      …but glad to see you KINDA admit you were wrong NOW!

      Actually, I don’t fault you for a bad prediction as much as I fault you for mocking others routinely who have a different view. You incessantly attack NYC and Tina, as if you have utter contempt for anything they say and I think it’s wrong even though I have my own issues with NYC at times but it’s one thing to mock and tease someone and another to put yourself above them, as they can’t add anything of value at all which is what you often do.

      I think the reason me and Jadon were more cautious in 2022 is because of the built in fraud mechanisms. Otherwise, I would have expected the GOP to do better than the Lil’ Red Ripple…even though I still think the GOP did well in a number of areas but nowhere near as expected by political pundits.

      We all make mistakes…well, almost all of us.

      Now as Bitter would say, “Bless your heart sweetie and you have a nice day.

    956. Paul says:

      So what do you think the fallout will be if Biden goes 14th amendment and ignores the debt ceiling as if it didn’t exist?

    957. Tgca says:


      Whether it be Trump or any other GOP nominee, the path to winning in 2024 is through WI me thinks. The GOP cannot get to 270 without picking off a historically reliable Dem state. Only 3 come to mind to get the GOP there and they are MI, PA, and WI. MI and PA ate probably lost now due to recent elections moving those states farther left. Only WI can probably save the day but the recent Dem win of their high court based on an ABORTION election tells me ONLY Trump has a chance there and was the only GOP candidate to win there in 35 years.

      DeSanctimonius embracing a 6-week ABORTION ban hasn’t got a chance in WI, or with attracting the moderate working class there like Trump did so I doubt the GOP can win 2024 without Trump unless something else miraculously happens with good fortune to the GOP.

      DeSanctimonius is too far right for many of the midwest states and to attract Dems and moderates. Floreedah is not a microcosm of the US.

    958. Tgca says:


      Court time!

      He opens that door, it backfires on Dems because it becomes precedent for the GOP too someday.

      The courts probably overrule him…I hope.

    959. Bitterlaw says:

      I would never say, “Bless your heart sweetie and you have a nice day.” First, there should be a comma after heart and a period after sweetie. Second, the “you” is not needed. Third, I would not say, “have a nice day.”


    960. Tgca says:


      Where’s my apology chocolates sweetie?

      See 973

    961. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – I will say it again. You can contact Dave by clicking Contact at the top of the page. It sets up am e-mail to him. If you can fly a plane, you can figure it out.

      HHR has Tgca. The lifeboat won’t because he wants to go down with HHR. You decide.

    962. Tgca says:

      Cassidy: Trump Can Not Win a General Election when pressed on a discussion with CNN of why DeSanctimonius is running.

      His rationale is that Trump endorsed a bunch of senate losers in 2022 and had they not lost, the GOP would have had a much better night so Trump is poison in 2024 and a proven loser.

      The problem is DeSanctimonius also endorsed and campaigned for such losers, as well as just having a major loss in his own state.

      So does that not imply DeSanctinonius is poison too in elections and can’t win in 2024 because he endorses losers that can’t win?

      What STOOPID logic and hypocrisy.

    963. Tgca says:

      OK. I got chit to do.

      Later ladies.

    964. Paul says:

      983: Of course, it would. It would eliminate the debt ceiling for Republican presidents as well as Democratic ones.

    965. Wes says:

      So when I literally said Republicans would underperform as in the comment I posted, you still fall back on an admittedly wrong different post, liar.

      Good to know.

    966. JeffP says:

      979 Trump is a phony and being used as opposition to divide the GOP. He craves the approval of the establishment. His baseless attacks on DeSantis is all a needed to see.

    967. jason says:

      JeffP says:
      May 20, 2023 at 6:08 pm

      Case in point the head of Russias Wagner private military group has claimed to have completely captured Bakhmut.”


      Poor little sniveling Putin stooge is ecstatic and celebrating the possible (of course he always believes the Wagner group propaganda) Ukrainian loss of a bombed out shell of city that he sacrificed tens of thousands of casualties for.

      You have to be one pathetic miserable loser if that is what makes your day.

    968. Paul says:

      I think the 14th amendment option is just talk. Not gonna happen. They are just trying to get McCarthy to cave a little. Which he will in the end. McCarthy will be seen as weak by the MAGATs. Biden will be seen as weak by the progressives. But a deal will be reached.

    969. Phil says:

      The 14th Amendment will never pass constitutional muster. Everyone knows that including Biden’s puppeteers…..not that they wouldn’t love to do it – but they know they couldn’t get away with it.

    970. Marv says:

      Hi Wes,

      I’m very sorry about your recent diagnosis. I’ll pray for your recovery.

      Do you plan to begin posting over at our new site? I hope that you set up an account over there.

    971. PresidentPaul! says:


      I propose that Taiwan be required to adopt a 100% bitcoin standard for the island.

      That way all finance is entirely decentralized and outside of any central control including the island’s own government.

      This creates a safety mechanism\contingency should China ever invade so that all capital can leave without capital controls etc.

      It also serves as a deterrent to an invasion so that China can not actually control anything if they are able to take control of the island.

    972. Bitterlaw says:

      Bunu must have lost a lot on gold so now he is pushing Bit coin – which recently crashed.

    973. Bitterlaw says:

      Final …

    974. Bitterlaw says:


    975. PresidentPaul! says:


      Trump is the actual president not the thief Biden and Deep state.

      As soon DeSantis starts acknowledging that deepstate-dems did a coup, he might actually get some support.

    976. PresidentPaul! says:

      Wrong I do own physical gold.

      However, there is a limit to how much of you really want to own.

    977. PresidentPaul! says:

      If you think about Taiwan it’s really obvious what needs to happen.

      The principal use case of bitcoin so far has always been the avoidance of capital controls of people’s own government/government that takes over etc.

      We need a currency in Taiwan that is 100% capital control evasive.

    978. JeffP says:

      This is the end, beautiful friend
      This is the end, my only friend
      The end of our elaborate plans
      The end of ev’rything that stands
      The end

      Speaking of lies during war….

      Did you know Jim Morrisons father was commander of United States naval forces during the Gulf of Tonkin Incident of August 1964, which sparked an escalation of American involvement in the Vietnam War.

    979. JeffP says:

      Morrison began college at UCLA in 1964 just after the Gulf of Tonkin incident and he never talked to his Father again.

    980. JeffP says:

      992 No Jason I am just not gullible and believe the MSM and Neocons and neoliberals like apparently you do.

    981. JeffP says:

      Excellent resource and must read to see how corrupt our government is. It’s all footnoted from primary sources and collaborative first hand witnesses.

    982. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 21, 2023 at 1:29 pm
      Robbie – I will say it again. You can contact Dave by clicking Contact at the top of the page.

      – I have, but I have not received a reply.

    983. XRumerTest says:

      Hello. And Bye.

    984. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – OK. I don’t have magic powers. I was able to get us 2 final threads. That’s allI can do.

      JeffP – Do you not believe Russia invaded Ukraine? Do you not believe that military aide has prevented it from surrendering?

    985. Bitterlaw says:

      Did everybody leave?

    986. Wes says:

      Wanting to make his status as a delusional idiot clear, Chris Sununu (R?-NH) is contemplating a run for President. I guess he feels the Northeast-Governor-who-gutted-his-state-party-because-of-his-vanity lane must be a viable one:

    987. Wes says:

      Why did John Sununu never take his kid aside and say to him last year, “What the hell are you doing, you moron?!”?

    988. DW says:

      Wes, not sure how much time is left here before HHR goes dark, but wanted to let you know I will remember you in my prayers for your healing, and don’t let tcga get to you, this poster is a just a troll who throws out insults to stir the pot, then recoils and complains when anyone insults back.

    989. Bitterlaw says:

      DW – I told Wes that I can’t pray for him because everybody I pray for dies. I am sure that you have a better record.

    990. jason says:

      No Jason I am just not gullible”

      Says the guy that believes in unsourced stupid conspiracy theories by an old discredited left wing hack like Seymour Hersh.

      Btw, what happened to your prediction that this silly fantasy was going to be a “big deal”, “act of war” and all that crap.

      As I predicted, nobody cared and even the kooks are ignoring it now.

    991. Wes says:

      Thanks for your prayers, DW.

      As far as Tgca, he’s not bothering me. In my current state, I just have no intention of taking anyone’s sophomoric rants and will respond in kind when attacked.

    992. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – Your posts do appear in the lifeboat.

    993. Wes says:

      The NAACP issues a travel advisory to blacks against going to Florida. What about all the blacks who live there?

    994. DW says:

      “Two Australian Women Are Told They’ve Broken the Law by Criticizing Male Attempting to Breastfeed a Child”

    995. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 22, 2023 at 10:34 am

      Jason – Your posts do appear in the lifeboat”

      Yes, but for the 50th time, not when I post.

      When I post the screen goes to the buildings.

      In order to see the posts I have to log out and log back in.

      Not feasible.

    996. Bitterlaw says:

      Not sure why you are the only one having that issue. I will look at settings.

    997. Tgca says:


      Oh, DW, the Jesus Freak is upset that I schooled him on DeSanctimonius as well as his ridiculous assertions that the Bible is the Word of God when it’s actually an unreliable interpretation by men hundreds or thousands of years after claimed events occurred to inspire the masses and control them.

      The Bible is meant to be inspirational and provide spiritual guidance, and other than the confirmation of the existence of SOME people historically, little to none of the quotes can be substantiated as occurring or accurate.

      But Jesus Freaks like DW who degrade religion with their ignorance and bigotry and cling to its every word to pass judgment on others gets upset when he’s called on it.

    998. Tgca says:

      I think DeSanctimonius has a point here claiming the NAACP is pulling a stunt but he should talk because he frequently pulls stunts as well whether it’s gas stove, drag queens or Disney.

      For example, taking a couple of isolated drag queen events and making law against them to vastly exaggerate what’s happening in Floreedah or holding a press conference on gas stoves when over 92% of people in Floreedah don’t use gas.

      Just like other politicians, his stunts are geared towards garnering support and donations so though he has a point here, it’s a HYPOCRITICAL one.

    999. DW says:

      Now Tgca doesn’t even know who he is talking to. I have said very little about Ron DeSantis. As to the Bible, he clearly has no idea what he is talking about. But he calls me the freak because its easier to call people names than to make intelligent arguments.

    1000. jason says:

      hen over 92% of people in Floreedah don’t use gas”

      So over 2 million people do use gas?

      I am glad the Golden Calf is looking out for them.

    1001. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 22, 2023 at 11:34 am

      Not sure why you are the only one having that issue.”

      I am unique.

    1002. Robbie says:

      Wes says:
      May 22, 2023 at 9:18 am
      Why did John Sununu never take his kid aside and say to him last year, “What the hell are you doing, you moron?!”?

      – I think Sununu is playing for 2028. He’s decided the best thing for his political brand and future is for Trump to be the nominee and lose in 2024. That way he can swoop in and pick up the pieces in 2028. That can’t happen if DeSantis is the nominee since there’s a good chance DeSantis would beat Biden and take 2028 off the table. So by running, Sununu would eat up votes from those who don’t want Trump. That makes it that much easier for Trump to win with 35% or 40%.

      Ultimately, Sununu’s got a similar goal to the one that Haley and Scott have. They’re all angling for 2028. Haley and Scott think they can set themselves up to be the frontrunner in 2028 by being Trump’s VP. Sununu thinks another crash and burn by Trump will open up the door for his brand of Republicanism to be back in vogue.

      In the end, all three will be wrong about their chances in 2028, though, because Trump will run again and be the nominee then as well.

    1003. JeffP says:

      1101 I agree with both of those things. I understand Russias obvious violation of national sovereignty all though somewhat provoked. My concern is the posture the West is taking and an apparent willingness that could eventually lead to a world war. I understand Putins goals but I am unsure how NATO prolonging this war benefits the citizens of Ukraine. History and the globalist actors involved makes me question their motives and intentions which are the discussions we should be having.

    1004. JeffP says:

      TGCA needs to try ChatGPT for his answers … he seems incoherent lately in his points and arguments. LOL.

    1005. JeffP says:

      If See my post on the life boat I am assuming it’s posted. Correct?

    1006. Bitterlaw says:

      JeffP – How was Russia provoked into invading Ukraine?

    1007. Tgca says:


      I should say customers and not people.

      The sales rebate totals about $35 so you’d have to spend $600 on a new stove to save $35. How many people are going to rush out to spend $600 on a gas stove to get a $35 sales tax savings?

      Why hold a press conference on that? It’s silly! STUNT!

      Florida has nearly 12M utility customers. DeSanctimonius set aside $7M in a $117B budget for these gas stove sales tax rebates which is like $.06 for every $1,000 or .00006 factor. That $7M estimates 180K customers get a rebate or 1.5% of utility customers could take advantage of a $35 rebate while 98.5% of Floreedah utility customers did not and that’s assuming their estimate is correct which is highly doubtful, and remember you only get a $35 savings after you spend on average of $600 for a gas stove and that does not include thousands it would take new customers to convert to a gas environment if they wanted that $35 sales tax savings so it doesn’t incentivize gas usage, especially since there is very little gas distribution in the state.

      So yes, it was a STUNT when DeSanctimonius held a press conference to talk about gas stoves and savings. Everyone knows it was a stunt as gas stove usage in Floreedah is about as relevant as giving discounts for snow blowers in Hawaii.

      So my point is valid. DeSanctimonius is a HYPOCRITE to whine about a political stunt when he routinely employs STUNTS himself whether it’s about gas stoves, drag queens, Disney or his gross exaggerations and lies about his COVID management in the state compared to other states.

    1008. Wes says:

      Tom Carper (Wifebeater-DE) will retire from the Senate next year. Obviously Christine O’Donnell (Lunatic-DE) is the prohibitive favorite for the GOP Senate nomination.

    1009. Tgca says:

      1026 DW

      So tell us what parts of the Bible you have proof for that justify your judging of other non-believers.

      The Earth created in 7 days?
      The Earth roughly 6,000 years old?
      The Garden of Eden with a talking snake?
      Eve created from Adam’s rib?
      Abel ordering Cane?
      The earth flooded destroying all life?
      Noah’s Ark?
      People being turned to a pillar of salt?
      Jesus walking on water?
      All these detailed quotes by Jesus?

      Also please tell me if you agree with all the incest in the Bible. Clearly, Adam and Eve’s children were f*cking each other. I wonder if they all inherited bad teeth like those in KY.

      How about the statutory rape of young girls marrying old men?

      Please do share. Where’s your proof these things happen.

    1010. Tgca says:

      1031 Jeffie

      Incoherent in my answers?

      Please provide specific examples so I can challenge you on that general comment.

    1011. Robbie says:

      Matt Holt
      #PASen: Ahead of a potential campaign launch, 2022 GOV nom Doug Mastriano (R) had harsh words for NRSC Chair Steve Daines, calling him a part of the “ruling class” and said he was “mouthing off about me & my potential candidacy” 1/4

      – The Republican base and the candidates they prefer aren’t really interested in winning as much as they are about making a point. For many, they find satisfaction in losing.

    1012. Robbie says:

      Wes says:
      May 22, 2023 at 4:01 pm
      Tom Carper (Wifebeater-DE) will retire from the Senate next year. Obviously Christine O’Donnell (Lunatic-DE) is the prohibitive favorite for the GOP Senate nomination.

      – Given the drift to the hard right in the primaries, we may long for the days of COD.

      Somehow, some way, we’re entered a period in Republican politics where crazy is normal and normal is crazy.

    1013. Wes says:

      Does Mastriano realize Shapiro destroyed him last year? I know ol’ Doug tried to pull a Donald Trump and overturn the election in the courts, but even he should be aware a lopsided loss to a pol known for much tighter elections previously isn’t exactly going to endear him to donors.

    1014. Bitterlaw says:

      Mastriano was actually behind making mail-in ballots easier. The trade off was no longer being able to pull the straight party lever for Dems or GOP. Personally, I never pulled/pushed the Big R. It was more fun to give the a Republican my vote in each race.

    1015. Marv says:

      When are we all going to start to post exclusively over at HHR Phoenix?

      It’s pretty simple. Login, post, see your post!

    1016. Bitterlaw says:

      Thanks, Marv. I am also looking into getting a different site address that is easier to remember for old and new users.

    1017. DW says:

      Obviously tgca is a hard-core leftist troll who pretends to root for Trump and has very little knowledge of the Bible as evidenced by his most recent rant, where he cannot even spell Cain correctly, and suggests something like rape of young girls by old men is supported in the Bible, when in fact I cannot bring to mind any episode where such a thing even happened, much less happened with God’s blessing. If he took the time to read the Bible might learn something.

      There are plenty of bad things that people did that were recorded in the Bible, things that God called sin.

    1018. Bitterlaw says:

      DW – Remember that Tgca is a religious person.

      I do not believe that much of the Bible is true. Noah’s ark was too small and why would God save spiders? I think the Earth is billions of years in age. I think science is cool but not perfect, either. I can disagree with people and not call them Freaks. As for those who felt AIDs and HIV were somehow justified as God’s punishment for gays and sinners, those people were a-holes.

    1019. Tgca says:


      Typical deflection by DW, as routinely used at HHR…and notice he did not seriously address one of my hypothetical inquiries.

      If you don’t agree with me you are a troll, not a conservative, a stooge, you’re mother was a prostitute with syphilis when she was pregnant with you and you have brain damage, blah blah blah.

      You sound like a complete moron when you lead with such arguments just like you would rightfully get offended when people do the same to you because I heard you’re a Pootin stooge and support the destruction of Ukraine. Get my drift?

      The fact of the matter is DW can prove very little in the Bible. I am a devout Catholic and look to the Bible for spiritual guidance and inspiration but know you can’t take it literally or accept many of the passages in this day and age as real or accurate.

      For example, it’s silly to believe Noah’s Ark happened the way it is claimed a few thousand years ago. It would’ve been impossible for a few men to build a ship of the size and functionality needed to carry two of every land creature, with all other remaining populations left behind to drown but then repopulate in great numbers showing up in nature shortly thereafter. The same with plants and trees. Archeological records can prove no such flood occurrence on the scale claimed in the Bible.

      There are approximately a million known land species that have been in existence for hundreds of thousands to millions of years. How could you fit them all on a wooden boat and cater to their habitat needs?

      Also, different animals are indigenous to different parts of the world and require different environments to survive. Please tell me how animals indigenous to unknown lands like North America at the time got to Noah’s Ark and how they later got back to their indigenous lands after the Ark’s journey completed. Did they take Uber?

      That’s the problem I have with Jesus Freaks, they try to justify passages of the Bible to force on you and then insult you with worthless gibberish as not knowing what they know on the scale they teach in curriculums equivalent to Women or LGBTQ Studies, meaning it’s usually made up by people with an agenda.

      They misrepresent and misinterpret the Bible for their pet causes.

      If DW wants to have a valid debate on the Bible’s events authenticity, fine but claiming I’m a liberal troll is not evidenced by fact and just a deflection because he CAN’T defend his positions.

      So with much love and respect, I say to DW…GFY Bish!

    1020. Tgca says:


      I do not consider myself religious because that’s a term that means different things to different people.

      I consider myself faithful to my faith, Catholicism but only to the point I can challenge it within reason because the Church is managed by ordinary people with agendas and not by God.

      I think the current Pope is a POS commie who did not look out for the best interest of children violated by priests.

      I believe the REAL church resides in one’s heart and faith. Though it’s nice to go to church venues, you don’t need any of that or it’s rules to have faith in God.

    1021. Tgca says:

      …and lastly on this topic, I defended DW in past discussions on religion using mathematical reason as to why a Divine Intervention is more probable then all this life as we know it occurring from nothing in a short period of time.

      I recall us having sone debates with Wes over it. Wes was entitled to his views, as I believe he identifies as agnostic, but my viewpoint was from one of mathematical probabilities and occurrences in nature.

      So DW and I may agree more than not on a Divine being though we may not agree on the Bible’s accuracy.

    1022. Tgca says:

      Now all of you GO AWAY and post at that OTHER site and leave this site to me, or I’m gonna start thinking you all come here because you miss me.

    1023. DW says:

      Once again, at least read the Bible before making your arguments. Whether or not you believe there was a world-wide flood and an ark, the Bible says KIND of animal, not SPECIES was saved.

    1024. Tgca says:

      1052 DW

      You’re deflecting again.

      You really want to debate a single word now?

      It also says “every creature that moves along the ground.” Whether you use “kind” or “species” that is not possible to fit into an ark all land species, kind, or whatever term you use.

      It is highly improbable the Ark story is true. You really believed all those people and animals were drowned and the world re-populated?

      Seriously? You believe that? Yes or no?

    1025. Tgca says:

      Not good news for DeSanctimonius.

      Larry Ellison said to be backing Scott with up to $30M this cycle. There are talks Musk also may be backing Scott.

      That’s 2 of the top 4 richest in the US in Scott’s corner. Probably more conservative donors to jump on the band wagon if they back him and he gets decent traction from the public.

      Let’s face it! He’s viewed as a conservative AA with a good life story so expect many big donors to jump on the band wagon because that looks good for them too.

      Still not sure if he’ll get the nomination but he may be auditioning for VP or a 2028 set-up.

      A credible AA VP or POTUS candidate would drive Dems bonkers…and DeSanctimonius sycophants too.

    1026. PresidentPaul! says:

      “FBI Corruption: The FBI kept the investigation into the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation open through Trump’s first term to prevent Congress from being able to see the evidence – when Biden took office the FBI destroyed the evidence so it could not turn it over to Congress.”

      The antiTrumpers are simply disgusting at this point.

    1027. DW says:

      It would absolutely be possible to fit every kind of animal into an ark the size of what was described in Genesis. And obviously, they wouldn’t bring full-sized animals into the ark as juveniles would be smaller.

      But if you would take the time to look it up, you will learn that there are numerous flood stories that emerged from ancient civilizations. Not all of them are the same details as the flood described in Genesis, but the combined testimony of all these ancient flood stories suggests something along these lines must have happened. In the New Testament Jesus said it happened, and so I will go with Jesus.

    1028. Bitterlaw says:

      There are stories from other civilizations about giant floods. Explanations include volcanoes, earthquakes and tsunamis.

      I do not take the Bible at face value but I do find archaeology fascinating and there are finds that do relate to history presented in the Bible. I do not understand Tgca’s hostility towards your obviously sincere faith.

    1029. Bitterlaw says:

      I believe Earth and the universe are billions of years old. Only Walt knows for sure. What came before the universe? No idea.

    1030. DW says:

      “Man Files Lawsuit After Being ‘Forced’ to Use Male Locker Room”

    1031. Wes says:

      Humans tend to live near water for the obvious reason of our dependence on H2O for drinking purposes, transportation, and industrial and domestic uses.

      That people recorded floods is no surprise since floods are an observable phenomenon frequently occurring around bodies of waters hosting human populations.

      Of course the major civilizations extant at the time the Ussher Chronology claims the Noachian Flood occurred neither record a worldwide flood nor ceased to exist because of one.

      As such, the logical conclusion is that the Noachian Flood is an exaggerated account of a flood that occurred in or around Mesopotamia. The story itself hints at this since the biblical Flood Narrative borrows heavily from the much older Epics of Atrahasis and Gilgamesh.

    1032. DW says:

      “What came before the universe? No idea.”

      Come on, you can do better than that…Before the universe, there was Walt.

    1033. DW says:

      Wes, that depends on how one dates the book of Genesis. If it is much older, then Gilgamesh borrowed from Genesis, or as is my view, they were independent flood stories that may or may not be alluding to the same event.

      Just recently, an academic peer reviewed article was published regarding a recently found inscription that was a summary of Deuteronomy 27, and its dated from 1400 BC to 1200 BC, suggesting that the Pentateuch is at least that old.

    1034. Bitterlaw says:

      I thought God said, “Let there be Walt!”

    1035. DW says:

      oh and I do not follow the Ussher chronology Wes.

    1036. DW says:

      I thought God said, “Let there be Walt!”

      And then having committed to call Walt into existence, the universe was a tack on.

    1037. Wes says:

      DW, the oldest copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh is estimated to be from about 1800 BC. The oldest dated copy of Genesis is from 150 BC, though most scholars estimate Genesis was written much earlier about the 15th Century BC.

      Without a reliably radiometrically dated manuscript of Genesis predating one of the Gilgamesh tablets, it’s impossible to make a legitimate claim Gilgamesh borrowed anything from Genesis.

      Indeed, given the similarities between the texts and the fact that Babylon, the successor state to Sumeria, ruled Israel, it’s much more likely Genesis borrowed from Gilgamesh.

      Again, scientific knowledge is ever changing, but based on available evidence, it’s simply an unfounded assertion to claim Genesis predates or inspired Gilgamesh in any way.

      That of course would change if an older manuscript of Genesis surfaced.

    1038. Bitterlaw says:

      A discussion about the Bible between a believer and non-believer and nobody has been called a freak. It can be done!

    1039. DW says:

      What I meant Wes is the account, the story itself, which would have been passed down through oral tradition long before being written down by anyone could just as easily resulted in independent accounts recalling the same oral tradition. So if that was the case, neither written account pulled from the other, but from the memory of the story, if in fact they were referring to the same story.

    1040. Wes says:

      DW has his beliefs, and I respect him for having them, Bitter. I can have a reasonable discussion with him on this issue even when we have polar opposite views on the subject matter.

      Unlike EML–who launched into an unprovoked bigoted attack on atheists as the source of virtually every evil in the universe last year–DW is a reasonable man with strong beliefs. I may not share those beliefs, but I can debate them with him in a respectful way since he accords me with the same courtesy.

    1041. Tgca says:


      Is that like having a discussion about the best solutions to resolve the Russia-Ukraine War without calling people a Pootin stooge or saying any talk of compromise is supporting Russia?

      Can we say…HYPOCRISY!!!

      Damn!!! Some people making fools of themselves this early in the AM…but not unexpected given the source.

    1042. Tgca says:


      The hypocrisy is in 1068.

    1043. Wes says:

      Oral traditions are notoriously hard to date, DW. We can look at Lafcadio Hearn’s adaptations of Japanese folklore from just over a century ago to see that. Much of what Hearn wrote down in Kwaidan and other collections comes from oral Japanese folklore which likely predates his hearing the stories and recording them by centuries, though of course we have no way of determining the exact date of origin of the stories.

      Similarly both Gilgamesh and Genesis probably originated as oral fables later written down by scribes in Sumeria and Israel respectively. The only hard evidence we have of either is the cuneiform tablets of Gilgamesh and the scrolls recording Genesis. Without actual hard evidence of earlier versions of either, all we have to go on for the origin of either is speculation, even if some of that speculation is reasonable.

    1044. Robbie says:

      Since the discussion has shifted towards the Bible and religion, I have two things to say.

      1. Jorge Bergoglio is a heretic and we desperately need a new pope.

      2. Jorge Bergoglio’s persecution of the traditional Latin Mass and those who attend it is scandalous. Bring back the traditional Latin Mass now!

    1045. Bitterlaw says:

      I have never called anybody a Putin stooge. Any talk of “compromise” that leaves Russian troops in control of Ukrainian territory seized in the invasion is supporting Russia. Both can be true.

    1046. Bitterlaw says:

      I have never attended a Latin Mass. I have attended Masses conducted in Korean and Spanish on vacations. I think a Latin Mass should be available for those who want it but I would probably only attend it once out of curiosity.

    1047. Robbie says:

      Andy Beshear has already begun running ads trashing Daniel Cameron even though election day is still five and a half months away. Beshear is trying to define Cameron early and kill his general election candidacy in the crib. This is just what Obama did to Romney in May, June, and July of 2012.

      Cameron, on the other hand, said he plans to spend the Summer raising money and will hit the campaign trail hot and heavy once Labor Day rolls around. In other words, he’s following the strategy Romney employed in May, June, and July of 2012.

      In other words, advantage Beshear.

      I voted for Ryan Quarles in the primary because he was willing to fight Beshear’s covid mandates. Cameron had little to say and, frankly, still has very little to say on just about everything. I was worried Cameron didn’t have what it would take to run an aggressive and negative campaign against a very good politician like Beshear. I still don’t.

    1048. jason says:


      Amoral Scumbag is already attacking the Republican on the ballot in KY, as usual.

      Another election, same M.O., same garbage.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    1049. jason says:

      The driver of the U-Haul truck that crashed through security barriers near the White House Monday night has now been identified as 19-year-old Sai Varsh-th Kand-la, 19, of Chesterfield, Missouri. “

    1050. jason says:

      Another white supremacist?

    1051. jason says:

      In other words, advantage Beshear”

      Amoral Scumbag voted for Beshear because he didn’t like Bevan.

      Now he will support Beshear for the real reason.

      He doesn’t support any Rs actually on the ballot.

    1052. Robbie says:

      The parishes that have the traditional Latin Mass (the 1962 missal) are the only ones that are growing in the Catholic Church. They have young attendees with big families and the pews are full. It’s quite the opposite of the sparsely attended suburban parishes dominated by grey haired women in their 70’s who strut up to the altar to give dramatic presentations of the first and second readings.

      The seminaries of the Society of St. Peter and the Institute for Christ the King (both are Latin Mass only) are so full they each have waiting lists that stretch up to three years. The average diocesan seminary may have a couple enrollees each year. Some don’t even have that many.

      Even the seminaries and the chapels of the Society of St. Pius X are bursting at the seams despite their unclear canonical status. The society was founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre as a reaction to the disastrous changes of Vatican II. Despite his excommunication by John Paul II in 1988 (it was later reversed by Benedict XVI), the Society has grown exponentially. They just opened a new cathedral in Kansas.

      The growth and the rebirth of the traditional Latin Mass and the vocations it has created is precisely why the heretic Jesuit (redundant, I know) Jorge Bergoglio and his henchmen have sought to severely limit and prohibit the traditional Mass from being said. Since February, the evil pope has prevented the TLM from being said in parish churches. It can now only be said in gym halls. It’s Vatican sponsored persecution of the devout.

      The change from the traditional Latin Mass to the “new Mass” mandated by Paul VI in December 1969 is the clear demarcation point for when Mass attendance in the US and around the world collapsed. Mass attendance went from 75% in 1960 to just 30% in 1980. And now under the heretic Bergoglio, Mass attendance in down to 20% or so. His papacy has been both evil and ruinous.

      I think there’s a direct line between the loss of faith in the late 1960’s and the horrible situation that exists in our public and moral life today. As organized faith has receded in importance, politics has become society’s new religion and it’s been a catastrophe.

    1053. Phil says:

      Well, well…..Robbie has already begun his usual trashing of the Republican actually on the ballot in Kentucky.

      The usual and predictable pattern. I’m shocked I say.

      It will never change.

    1054. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 23, 2023 at 11:07 am
      In other words, advantage Beshear”

      Amoral Scumbag voted for Beshear because he didn’t like Bevan.

      Now he will support Beshear for the real reason.

      – I voted for Bevin in 2015 and his tenure was awful. In an election year, he picked a fight with the teacher’s unions. It led to several weeks of protest. He was scandal plagued and bonehead. Do you remember that he pardoned a murderer? The voters here did.

      In 2019, I voted for every Republican office holder but Bevin. I left the race blank. The other six Republicans each won by about 60-40 while Bevin lost. And he lost because he was a jerk and he sucked.

      I’ll vote for Cameron, but I’ve said since 2020 I thought he was a dud and I wasn’t sure he had what it would take to run a tough, aggressive campaign against a good politician like Beshear. And by saying he wasn’t going to hit the campaign trail until Labor Day, Cameron, at least for now, has confirmed by fears about him.

      Do you think it’s a good idea for a challenger to take off the next three months while the incumbent with a 60% approval rating runs negative ads against the challenger without any substantive response?

    1055. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      May 23, 2023 at 11:15 am
      Well, well…..Robbie has already begun his usual trashing of the Republican actually on the ballot in Kentucky.

      – Do you think it’s a good idea for a challenger to take off the next three months while the incumbent with a 60% approval rating runs negative ads against the challenger without any substantive response?

    1056. Phil says:

      To answer your question, no I don’t think it’s good strategy.

    1057. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      May 23, 2023 at 11:19 am
      To answer your question, no I don’t think it’s good strategy.

      – And that’s why I said “advantage Beshear”.

      If Beshear can define Cameron before Cameron has a chance to present himself to the public, it will be a tough, tough thing for him to overcome.

      Obama did the same thing to Romney in May, June, and July of 2012.

    1058. Robbie says:

      The race in Kentucky will be close and Cameron can absolutely win. Bevin, for all of his faults, lost by just 5,000 votes or so. But if it is a close race, allowing yourself to be defined so early in the process could be the difference.

      If the incumbent opponent has a 60% approval rating, the only way to bring that down is to run negative ads from now until election day. In 2014, Pat Roberts was in trouble with about six weeks to go against Greg Orman and went hard negative on him. He won by ten. That was a very Republican year in a very Republican state, though.

      One other thing to consider in Kentucky is it remains to be seen how enthusiastically Eastern Kentucky will vote for a Black Republican for governor. Voting for AG is one thing, but race can’t be ignored in places where racial issues are still a problem.

    1059. DW says:

      “1. Jorge Bergoglio is a heretic and we desperately need a new pope.”

      I agree. They should have picked Cardinal Dolan last time, but I wasn’t among those pushing the smoke up the chimney.

    1060. DW says:

      Hillary Clinton Admits Voters “Have the Right” to Be Concerned About Biden’s Age

      You don’t say?

      You just know she is sitting there hoping to get the phone call that Biden is out, and they need her to come to the rescue.

    1061. Phil says:

      I’m torn as of now. Not sure who I will vote for in the Republican Republican Primary. It is imperative that the left doesn’t get another four years in the WH. Currently, I have ruled out two of the announced candidates – Haley because she is such a weak spined jellyfish. Too concerned about catering to the media and being politically correct. The other is Trump. He’s a sure loser in the general – too much baggage. He loses independents. Can’t win that way. Biden is hoping he is the nominee. Jury is out on the unannounced candidates for me. DeSantis is a possibility for me along with Scott (who announced yesterday). Chris Christie is a definite no.

    1062. DW says:

      Sometimes in our bizarre world, things come all the way around full circle and repeat themselves, but for opposite root causes:

      “UC Berkeley Holds Segregated Graduation for Black Students”

    1063. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – Interesting post on the Latin Mass. There is one issue with your theory. Church and Synagogue attendance is down most groups. Obviously, Jews and Protestants did not stop attending services because of the decline of the Latin Mass.

      Like I said, if there are people who want to attend a Latin Mass, it should be available. Of course, I married a Jew so you probably consider me a bad Catholic.

    1064. Phil says:

      DW, that’s another example of how the left has lost its collective minds.

    1065. DW says:

      Remember that there are three kinds of candidates who run in a POTUS primary:

      1) Those serious about winning the nomination.
      2) Those who just want to raise the awareness that they exist and hope to rise to the point of having enough influence to help pick the eventual winner, and then get a cabinet post.
      3) Nut-jobs who are out of alignment with the majority of their party and just want to stir the pot.

      Wes, correct me if I missed any. And I am delighted you are back posting again. I always value your comments.

    1066. Bitterlaw says:

      Only Trump and DeSantis have forfeited my primary vote with their anti-Ukraine positions. If Haley, Christie, and Scott have not also decided to side with Putin, one of them could be my choice in the primary. The GOP nominee will get my vote in the GE.

    1067. PresidentPaul! says:

      DeSantis is a distraction candidate meant to divide the GOP base.

      Trump will be the nominee.

      I do find Vivek Ramaswamy to be interesting though after his recent speech.

    1068. Phil says:

      The Democrats are certainly rooting for Trump to get the nomination.

    1069. PresidentPaul! says:

      We missed the chance for a Once in a lifetime nominee in 2008, but Trump was the greatest president of our lifetimes so he deserves the nomination as many times as he wants it.

    1070. Bitterlaw says:


    1071. Phil says:

      No he doesn’t. Nobody DESERVES the nomination. You have to get elected in the GE. Trump can’t accomplish that.

    1072. PresidentPaul! says:

      Yes he does. DeSantis isn’t even acknowledging that Trump the rightful president of the USA not Biden.

      The fact that he would even debate Biden or acknowledge him proves he’s unfit. He’s doing kabuki theatre

    1073. PresidentPaul! says:

      Especially when the FBI and CIA were working with the democrats during the coup.

      DeSantis’s failure to acknowledge the obvious proves he’s unfit for office.

    1074. Bitterlaw says:

      A Tgca-Bunu alliance? HHR is a strange place as the clock ticks down.

    1075. Robbie says:

      DW says:
      May 23, 2023 at 11:40 am
      “1. Jorge Bergoglio is a heretic and we desperately need a new pope.”

      I agree. They should have picked Cardinal Dolan last time, but I wasn’t among those pushing the smoke up the chimney.

      – Dolan definitely has a conservative profile. His brother is a conservative talk radio host, I believe. However, he’s not a theologian, he’s not a liturgist, nor is he a canon lawyer. He’d have been infinitely better than the heretic from Argentia, but Dolan had no backing from any particular group of Cardinals.

      If there’s a Conclave soon, the conservative name to watch is Cardinal Peter Erdo of Hungary. He’s a canon lawyer and was the choice of Cardinal George Pell, an influential conservative who sadly died in January after complications from hip replacement surgery. He also has the backing of the two of the staunchest conservatives and traditionalists in the College of Cardinals, Burke of America and Sarah of Africa. Bergoglio hates both of them.

      Given how the heretic pope has stacked the deck in the College of Cardinals over the last decade, it will be tough for any conservative to win. Bergoglio hates the conservatives and has forced them out of their prominent positions in the Vatican and replaced them with what could be described as the “Bernie bots” of the Catholic Church.

      Unfortunately, I think the next pope is likely to be worse than Bergoglio. Not so much in style, but in substance. The names to watch are Tagle of the Philippines, Zuppi of Italy, and Parolin the Secretary of State.

    1076. Tgca says:

      Hillary Clinton can’t replace Joe Biden if she’s arguing age. She would be 77 in 2024 and Biden was 78 in 2020. So in essence, her making an argument on Biden’s age would result in her making an argument against herself as well.

    1077. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 23, 2023 at 11:50 am
      Robbie – Interesting post on the Latin Mass. There is one issue with your theory. Church and Synagogue attendance is down most groups. Obviously, Jews and Protestants did not stop attending services because of the decline of the Latin Mass.

      – My view is, once the Catholic Church stopped caring or trying in the late 1960’s and 1970’s, the protestant religions followed. I know some will object to how I phrase this, but the Catholic Church, in many ways, propped up the protestant religions. So long as the Catholic Chruch cared, the protestant religions tried to match and outdo. That’s a very rough way of stating it, though.

      Once the protestant religions saw the Catholic Church was relaxing its way of operating, they followed suit. Now, protestant faiths are fracturing over gay marriage while the heretic pope is even talking about gay marriage blessings. The trend spread everywhere, but the loss of faith for religions around the world began just after the Catholic Church finished the disastrous Vatican II and implemented the new Mass.

      It should come as no surprise the people stopped caring when they saw religions change the way they operated on a dime. The Mass that had been said since the third century was replaced with something created on the back of napkins. When the Mass lost its reverence, the people stopped coming. And when the people stopped coming, faith in society no longer mattered and the other religions followed.

    1078. Tgca says:

      Trump has a better shot at indies than Desanctimonius who is bleeding support for moving far right. You will see soon. This BS about Trump endorsing losers in 2022 will not float since DeSanctimonius endorsed those SAME losers and campaigned fir them, and recently was humiliated with the loss of the largest city in Floreedah to Dems and the largest GOP city in the US.

      The fact that he’s lost nearly half of his support in a few months and has lost donors, as well as criticized by his two Floreedah senators is a testament to his extremism. This is NOT the same DeSanctimonius that ran in 2018. His catering to the radical right is going to cause big harm not only to him but the GOP and that’s why a number of politicians are coming out against him because they know Floreedah politics will drag them down in other parts of the country.

      Good luck attracting minorities and younger voters when you have a Pat Buchanan type of candidate.

      Even on Newsmax last night they were talking about how he can’t win the GE and when Newsmax goes against a conservative, you know they’re in trouble.

    1079. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 23, 2023 at 12:00 pm
      Only Trump and DeSantis have forfeited my primary vote with their anti-Ukraine positions.

      – The thing that bothers me about DeSantis’ view on the war in Ukraine is I’m not even sure if that’s what he actually believes.

      For whatever reason, DeSantis has decided he needs to get to Trump’s populist right on every issue, including Ukraine so he gave that terrible answer to Tucker.

      I’m of the view DeSantis gave Tucker that answer because DeSantis was scared of what Tucker might do it he answered a different way.

      Either way, it didn’t reflect well on DeSantis. Still, I believe he is the best bet to stop Trump and that’s what matters most to me.

    1080. jason says:

      Phil says:
      May 23, 2023 at 11:15 am

      Well, well…..Robbie has already begun his usual trashing of the Republican actually on the ballot in Kentucky.

      The usual and predictable pattern. I’m shocked I say.

      It will never change.”

      Yep, the chances of him ever voting for Cameron or the Golden Calf are less than me winning the Powerball.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    1081. NYCmike says:

      “When the Mass lost its reverence, the people stopped coming. And when the people stopped coming, faith in society no longer mattered and the other religions followed.”

      -Not so sure this is correct.

      I would like to see numbers before making such a general statement.

      “People” didn’t stop going. Younger generations chose to stop, for one reason or another. The Mass losing its “reverence” has never been used as an excuse in all of my conversations with my peer group and younger, as 99% of them have no clue what a “Latin Mass” even means other than the language used. The priest/pedo scandal is the main reason, as well as simply not having to fulfill another obligation every week.

      Of course, when you go down to Florida, in retirement communities, the lack of a Latin Mass hasn’t deterred that population whatsoever, as the masses are SRO and parking spots are hard to come by in YUGE parking lots.

      Of course, Robbie, the “devout Catholic”, is so consumed with hatred for one man that he will support political candidates who support policies which are in direct opposition to his Catholic faith, so what does that say about him?

    1082. jason says:

      Only Trump and DeSantis have forfeited my primary vote with their anti-Ukraine positions.”

      Nikki “You have to feel my pain” Haley has already forfeited my vote for anything.

      I will vote for either Trump or the Golden Calf.

      IF either one in the GE campaign refuses aid to Ukraine they lose my vote.

    1083. jason says:

      Of course, Robbie, the “devout Catholic”, is so consumed with hatred for one man that he will support political candidates who support policies which are in direct opposition to his Catholic faith, so what does that say about him?”

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    1084. DW says:

      I used to listen to Bob Dolan on the conservative talk radio station in Milwaukee. Good guy.

    1085. jason says:

      to stop Trump and that’s what matters most to me”


      And “stop Romney” or “stop Bevan” or “stop any R actually on the ballot” is the most important thing to this despicable turd.


    1086. jason says:

      Of course, Robbie, the “devout Catholic”,


      He supports the Biden agenda which includes aborting viable fetuses up to the day of birth.

      Devout Catholic my ass.

    1087. jason says:

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

      “Joy Behar declares that Justice Clarence Thomas and Sen. Tim Scott have no clue what it’s like to be a black man in America.”

    1088. Tgca says:

      I agree with NYC, the guy that SOME here refer to as Schumer’s Bish or Pootin’s stooge.

      Times have changed and people became more liberal in their views of attending church. When I was kid, Sunday mass was full of families including kids of all ages.

      When I go to church now, the church is not full and you don’t see as many kids as in the past, especially older kids, except maybe on Christmas Eve or Easter.

      Where I grew up, Latinos wore crosses and medals (not the kind some think Dr. Fow-chee deserves) or believed greatly in Jesus (Hay-Soos). Latinos had pics or statuettes of Mother Mary and Christ all over the home, inside and out…as well as in their cars. I still have my rosary beads dangling from mirror.

      Today I find so many Latinos don’t subscribe to the same belief system or dedication to the beliefs of the older Latino generations. I doubt you see the same level of reverence in Latino homes anymore either.

      Same with Eye-talyins who really embraced Catholicism even if some were hypocrites in their personal lives – yes, many criminals of different cultures were BELIEVERS too and went to church regularly.

      The church was full of sinners where I grew up.

      I don’t think any of these church attendance changes had to do with the Latin mass, it’s more of changing times, non-believers, non-dedicated, and liberal views. Kids were pretty much required to go to church back in the day, not so much anymore.

      I admit I don’t go to church after COVID either…and maybe that’s OK because I’m not a sinner like all you Heathens at HHR but that’s another story.

    1089. Tgca says:

      So DeSanctimonius is kicking off his campaign in a Twitter event with Musk even though Musk is not endorsing him. Musk also promoted Tim Scott the other day too but not via a Twitter event so he may be hedging vets here.

      I think the risk for Musk here is that he could be seen as using Twitter to benefit GOP candidates while previously accusing Twitter of being an extension of the Dem party.

      I see no problem with this as long as Twitter gives equal opportunity to all candidates, Dems too.

      This also makes it harder for the GOP to criticize Facebook for helping Dems if Twitter APPEARS to be promoting GOP candidates.

      To be fair to Musk, he is no conservatives admittedly, and I don’t think this is about politics for him but instead a business opportunity for Twitter – just not sure if it will come across that way.

    1090. Greymarch says:

      Dang. Sad to see the Hedge Hog close shop.

      I’ve been lurking/posting here since the 2004 election. Was looking forward to endlessly debating who’s gonna win what, and why.


    1091. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      May 23, 2023 at 12:00 pm
      Only Trump and DeSantis have forfeited my primary vote with their anti-Ukraine positions.

      – Trust me. I’d be happy if Cardinal Dolan became pope. He’d be infinitely better than the heretic we have today. I would caution those, though, who assume American conservatism would translate into a “conservative” papacy. On issues like marriage and life, things would line up well. On other issues, I’m not sure.

      As much as anything, appointments in the Church matter. The heretic in Rome understands that and he has made at most three or four “conservatives” Cardinals. Dolan doesn’t strike me as someone who would appoint only traditionalists and conservatives. Nor has he shown any interest in reverence for the Mass or the Traditional Latin Mass.

    1092. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      May 23, 2023 at 2:24 pm
      Of course, Robbie, the “devout Catholic”, is so consumed with hatred for one man that he will support political candidates who support policies which are in direct opposition to his Catholic faith, so what does that say about him?

      – I hate Trump. Period. End of story. He’s a bad person who treats those around him terribly. He’s also a massive political liability for the party. He’s on his third wife and cheated on his current wife with a porn star while she was home nursing their newborn child.

      Unfortunately, clowns like you have never understood that there’s more to politics than just policy positions. You have, for the entirety of your time in this forum, embraced idiot candidates who lose and, in effect, help Democrats.

      As Wes has said many times, you’re clearly a fan of Schumer because you support Republican candidates who make Schumer the leader.

    1093. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      May 23, 2023 at 3:34 pm
      Of course, Robbie, the “devout Catholic”,


      He supports the Biden agenda which includes aborting viable fetuses up to the day of birth.

      Devout Catholic my ass.

      – I attend Mass every weekend in person if I’m home or near a church, or I watch online when I’m travelling. I also pray the rosary every day.

      But you do you, tough guy.

    1094. Robbie says:

      Greymarch says:
      May 23, 2023 at 4:20 pm
      Dang. Sad to see the Hedge Hog close shop.

      I’ve been lurking/posting here since the 2004 election. Was looking forward to endlessly debating who’s gonna win what, and why.


      – The site isn’t dead yet and Bitterlaw is working a site where can all continue posting. Hope to see you there.

    1095. PresidentPaul! says:

      Ya I’m a huge Musk fan. He would probably be the only candidate as strong as Trump in a presidential run, but he would need to get a Hawaiian birth certificate to run.

      So from this perspective, DeSantis is being pretty shrewd to announce on twitter with Musk.

    1096. Tgca says:


      HA! HA! HA!

      HA! HA! HA!

      Robbie accusing someone else of supporting Dems and quoting Wes as his source is especially funny since Wes has no credibility with his BS accusations and vents in rage at anyone that contradicts him.

      The HYPOCRISY at HHR today is hilarious.

    1097. Tgca says:


      I don’t think it will help DeSnctimonius in the long run because now that he’s run to the extreme right, he is gonna get slaughtered with women, moderates, and the working class. He’s not gonna be able to come back me thinks unless he gets the Biden press treatment.

      Now he’s fair game as an official candidate and watch all start piling on and you will see what we see in Floreedah, a thin-skinned, arrogant, unlikeable dude, who greatly exaggerates his accomplishments that can’t relate to people on a personal level unless he’s insulting them with a friendly audience to back him up.

      He reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan only Pat had more personality.

    1098. PresidentPaul! says:

      I voted for Buchanan.

      He would be a good nominee for the GOP if he were younger as well.

    1099. Marv says:

      Hi Greymarch,

      Nice to see you back again. This site dies in about six days, unless Dave puts up another life extension thread.

      Here is Bitterlaw’s site, “Hedgehog Report, Phoenix Rising Edition”.

      Set up an account, login, post and see your post.

    1100. PresidentPaul! says:

      I think you tube permanently deleted all his pitchfork speeches long ago bc I haven’t been able to find them for a long time.

    1101. Bitterlaw says:

      I wonder what Tgca will do when Trump leaves the stage. Even Trump has a limited future. If he wins in 2024, he is done after his term ends. If he loses, he probably runs again every 4 years until he wins or dies.

    1102. Bitterlaw says:

      Greymarch- The lifeboat is filling up. I will try to set up an easier domain name for easier access before HHR goes under but Marc’s link works for now.

    1103. PresidentPaul! says:

      Musk running for president would be unbelievably awesome.

      DeSantis should get him a Florida birth certificate

    1104. PresidentPaul! says:

      I would love to see Elon win the presidency and smoke a big blunt with Roe Rogan in the White House for the press.

    1105. jason says:

      because now that he’s run to the extreme right”

      No, actually he seems like a mainstream Republican.

      He is taking conservative positions.

      You are just shocked because Trump was never a conservative.

    1106. jason says:

      PresidentPaul! says:
      May 23, 2023 at 5:12 pm

      I voted for Buchanan.”

      We would expect nothing else from a flaming anti-semite Holocaust denier.


    1107. Tgca says:


      I wonder what Bitter will do when his entourage of 13 year-olds grow up and he has no one to hang out with anymore because they find him to creepy to be around.

      People move on in life…at least some of us do.

    1108. Bitterlaw says:


      The sad little clown never recovered after his puppet master cut his strings and left.

    1109. Bitterlaw says:

      The sad little clown can move on? Is that why he promises to quit HHR and then comes back a few hours later?

    1110. Tgca says:

      I’m glad I live rent free in Bitter’s head. He constantly posts about me here. Can’t help himself. Has to constantly look to make jabs.

      Both LisaB and I bested this mentally challenged dude. I bet he will continue to post about us at his new site.

      That brings a smile to my face. Knowing we live rent free in his head.

    1111. Bitterlaw says:

      We all laugh at the sad little clown.

    1112. Gordon Allen says:

      This site is insane.
      Bitterlaw actually says the decisive factor for him in 2024 is not one single issue affecting the US,and it’s people and future but the level of support for Ukraine???
      Utterly looney tune idiocy.
      Good riddance. This used to be a semi serious site; now its the theater of the absurd.

    1113. Bitterlaw says:

      Why would I support somebody in the primary who is too stupid to realize that an aggressive and expansionist Russia is a threat to US national interests?

    1114. JeffP says:

      I still think Trumps poll numbers are soft. I liked Trump as President up until Covid and his passive pre election approach to the mail in ballot fiasco. His campaign managers sucked and legal help was third rate. It’s worse now.

      I just can’t take his drama anymore and his childish my dick is bigger than yours approach to life. I tune him out now. Antidotal I know… but my daughter works in our VERY conservative red state AG office and no one in that office wants Trump. Most support DeSantis and a couple Vivek… who she and her boss spent the day with last fall. Most are all former Trump supporters (except my daughter) and not RINOS. In fact I don’t know anyone in my other circles either. We will see I guess.

    1115. Phil says:

      Jeff, I also suspect Trump’s poll numbers are rather soft.

    1116. DW says:

      I have always viewed the role of governor the best training ground for a future POTUS, rather than senator, though a successful military general can be good too, but if someone has governed a state the size of Florida, and done it as well as DeSantis has, then his polling will improve and he would stand to have a great shot at the nomination.

      If Biden actually runs, would be great to have someone running against him who is actually in his prime like DeSantis, for the contrast, rather than someone else who is nearly as old as Biden.

      No candidate is perfect. I will vote for the eventual Republican candidate in the general election. I live in VA so I have no say in who our candidate will be.

    1117. Phil says:

      I will vote for DeSantis or Trump in the general. In fact, I’d vote for any Republican in the general other than Haley.

      As to Biden running again, I seriously have my doubts. The guy is a vegetable and I don’t think Democrats want to risk running him against DeSantis. The age and energy contrast would be too much. Against Trump they could probably get away with it. Trump will either be dealing with a couple of more indictments at a minimum or be in jail. The jury pools in Atlanta, NY, and DC are brutal for him.

    1118. jason says:

      Why would I support somebody in the primary who is too stupid to realize Why would I support somebody in the primary who is too stupid to realize that an aggressive and expansionist Russia is a threat to US national interests?”

      I no longer vote in primaries, indies don’t vote in PA primaries.

      But why would I support anyone in the GE who is too stupid to realize that an aggressive and expansionist Russia is a threat to US national interests?

    1119. jason says:

      Trump will either be dealing with a couple of more indictments at a minimum or be in jail. The jury pools in Atlanta, NY, and DC are brutal for him.”

      Realistically any jail time would be years away, he will be free while appealing and even likely to prevail at least in NY and Atlanta, both are ridiculous charges. The DC charge could be more problematic but the prosecutor will likely overreach.

      And Trump could easily strike a deal with the Golden Calf where he would support him in exchange for a pardon.

      Too bad he won’t.

    1120. jason says:

      In fact I don’t know anyone in my other circles either.”


      JeffP’s “circles” are country club elites who have zero idea of what goes on in the real world.

    1121. JeffP says:

      Jason the closest I come to country club elites are a couple of my suburban clients who despise Trump and would eagerly vote for DeSantis.

    1122. JeffP says:

      1154 Agree.

    1123. JeffP says:

      I would vote for Trump too.

      I just won’t pay attention to the drama he creates. Kinda like Paul…

    1124. jason says:

      Good representative….

      They should hire Tgca.

      “An uncle of Jordan Neely — the homeless man choked to death on the subway this month — was arrested near the Port Authority Bus Terminal for allegedly stealing purses from restaurants, police sources said Tuesday.

      Christopher Neely, 44, had acted as something of a representative for the grieving family in the aftermath of his 30-year-old nephew’s May 1 death, frequently speaking out about the lightning-rod case.

      But Neely was also allegedly wanted for a pattern of grand larceny, including the handbag thefts, according to the sources.”

    1125. JeffP says:

      A Republican megadonor and one-time supporter of former President Donald Trump has flipped to supporting Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for president, saying that he believes the former president should drop out of the race.
      Hal Lambert, founder and CEO of Point Bridge Capital and creator of MAGA EFT, told Fox Business on Tuesday that he does not believe Trump can win in the 2024 general election.

    1126. JeffP says:

      The MAGA EFT guy jumped ship…that is hilarious.

    1127. Tgca says:

      Newsom scores one against GOP using Reagan video touting gun control measures. Not sure how this would play with the GOP today. Ouch!

    1128. Bitterlaw says:

      It would play as well as Trump writing big checks to Planned Parenthood and Democrats.

    1129. Tgca says:


      Reagan supported both ABORTION and Dems.

      He was a Dem into his 50s and passed the most significant ABORTION legislation in CA, basically making ABORTION on demand legal, I believe only the 2nd state to do so in the 1960s.

      So yeah! Reagan and Trump were very similar.

      Thanks for playing.

    1130. Bitterlaw says:

      And you continue to trash Reagan and worship Trump.

    1131. PresidentPaul! says:

      If we can get a fair election (unlikely!),
      then I think Trump will beat demented Joe like a drum in the 2024 election.

    1132. jason says:

      Reagan was a real Republican and doctrinaire conservative.

      Trump is neither. Trump is an crony capitalist opportunist.

      Nobody here has given Trump more credit for his accomplishments as President. But he is not a conservative, never was, never will be.

      Thanks for playing.

    1133. Tgca says:


      So let me get this straight.

      You can routinely trash Trump for lacking character, not being a conservative, supporting Dems in the past, and being married more than once but when people point out that Reagan was not a conservative and supported Dems for decades, doing more to elect Dems than Trump ever did, and was also married more than once, that’s considered trashing Reagan?

      Your twisted logic and HYPOCRISY is astounding.

      FYI. Election records show for years that Trump gave to both GOP and Dems pretty much equally over the years simply because it’s was good for his business relations. I presented this analysis for both his fed and state candidate donations quite some time ago so don’t let facts get in your way.

      Thank you for playing.

    1134. JeffP says:

      1169 I agree.

    1135. Tgca says:


      Reagan was a REAL leftist for decades and did more to elect Dems than Trump ever did. He admitted the error of his ways later on so you should accept it too.

      Trump was never ideological. He is a pragmatist about politics.

      Trump has been our best president since Reagan and if it wasn’t for him, Hillary would be in her 2nd term and the country would be much further along left with a leftist SCOTUS dismantling our constitution.

      No conservative running in 2016 could beat her. It took a moderate to beat her and he beat her not on political ideology but on pragmatic solutions he promised.

      My point is that politics is about the present and it doesn’t matter who you supported in the past as long as you’re supporting the right things today.

      Bitter claims to support Trump but then trashes him constantly. I wonder if he even voted for Trump and just says so because we all know how much he loves to virtual signal like when LisaB forced him to rush to a tow hall meeting one night which he then posted about and claimed sooooo many people gave him kudos.

    1136. Bitterlaw says:

      Reagan was married twice. He was married to his second wife longer than Trump has been married to his three wives combined.

      Excusing Trump’s donations to far left Democrats by saying he also donated to Republicans is like excusing somebody who owned 100 slaves by saying they did not own 101 slaves.

    1137. Tgca says:

      All the Trump bashing here even though without him, the country would’ve been much worse off…and btw, none of you would ever have even heard of DeSanctimonius because he would have lost the 2018 GOP primary to the well known GOP Floreedah politician Putnam.

      I suspect like many in the DeSanctimonius camp some here are rooting for Trump to be convicted and imprisoned to get him out of the way to make room for DeSanctimonius even though he is the people’s choice for the GOP.

      It’s why DeSanctimonius will bleed MAGA support if he gets the nomination. Everyone I know thinks he’s a traitor and won’t vote for him.

    1138. Tgca says:


      So by your own logic, you agree Reagan should not be excused for supporting leftists for decades.

      Thanks for playing.

    1139. Bitterlaw says:

      Trump got my vote in 2016 and 2020. I have sad he was a good President. I think he is a bad person. If he gets the nomination in 2024, he will get my vote again.

      The sad little clown really became unhinged when his puppet master left.

    1140. PresidentPaul! says:

      DeSantis, unfortunately, isn’t very funny.

      DeSantis is good governor, but he’s not a memelord like Trump.

      Hence he’s not really going to be a good candidate to face off against demented Joe.

    1141. Bitterlaw says:

      Then everybody who Tgca knows is a moron willing to hand Biden a second term.

    1142. DW says:

      “How Was It Not a Sellout?” – WNBA Coach Shocked Nobody Cared About Brittney Griner’s Return

      So now look for the left to try to find a way to force us to care about what they want us to care about.

      I have no problem with women wanting to play basketball in the WNBA. I have no problem with 99.9% of the population not caring even a little about the WNBA.

    1143. PresidentPaul! says:

      The WNBA has been unprofitable for 27 years.

      Also there were a number of marines and other Americans that Russia was detaining, but they were all overlooked in favor of Griner who was chosen by demented Joe based on his interest groups.

    1144. jason says:

      Reagan was a true conservative icon. He believed in limited government, personal responsibility, free markets and free enterprise.

      Trump believes in none of that, he was a liberal Dem most of his political life and his donations prove that.

      Reagan was a writer and lecturer and promoter of conservative causes decades before becoming President. Nobody has influenced conservative politics more than Reagan in the last 100 years.

      Trump became a “conservative” 5 minutes before running for President.

      The difference between the 2 is astronomic.

    1145. jason says:

      Everyone I know thinks he’s a traitor and won’t vote for him.”


      Maybe a “traitor” to your “Occupy Wall Street” values.

    1146. DW says:

      And just like that, Biden steps in:

      “The PBEA, Professional Basketball Equity Act, will correct a long-standing problem with fan attendance in professional basketball. For too long, the NBA has enjoyed sell-out crowds while the WNBA has played their games in empty arenas.

      The NBA will now only be allowed to sell tickets at the same quantity of tickets that have been sold and comparable WNBA events. Furthermore, ticket holders must show up to the WNBA events to confirm that the ticket counts toward the release of an NBA ticket for sale.

      Additionally, fans at the WNBA games must cheer and watch the games, and will not be allowed to be on their phones or hang around in the concession area, or the ticket will be dropped from the count that would be available to release NBA tickets.

      As a further incentive, the policy outlined here will be waived for the home games of NBA teams who voluntarily play no fewer than two WNBA players at a time for their home games.”

    1147. DW says:

      1181 – and jason I am sure you remember well, how many here, including myself, expressed grave concern about Trump in 2016 during the primary how if he got the nomination, then he would likely become a Schumer/Pelosi lap dog. Why would we fear such a thing if Trump had a long-standing conservative resume?

      I am glad that he actually governed more or less as a conservative, but that fear in 2016 was very real and with good reason.

    1148. Wes says:

      Oh, I’m sure the NBA will be quick to agree to that, DW. Biden is now alienating one of his biggest pools of supporters. The NBA has the highest percentage of registered Democrats among its players while its fan base is the most Dem friendly among those of major sports.

      Biden might want to rethink this since he’s basically giving the middle finger to a huge vote and donor base.

    1149. Wes says:

      Trump is where Trump needs to be to win votes. He basically coopted the base the GOP had cultivated in the Obama midterms to get voters in 2016. Now he’s taking the opposite of whatever position DeSantis takes as a way to try to box the Florida Governor out of support–even if Trump has to take an unashamedly liberal position. His most hardcore supporters will follow his positions regardless of consistency or adherence to conservative values.

      Trump is now proving he is not to be trusted. He’s a megalomaniac obsessed with regaining power. He doesn’t care what he has to do to win even if he flagrantly defies positions he previously took.

    1150. Phil says:

      I tend to agree with your last paragraph, Wes. More and more it’s becoming clear Trump is all about Trump. Period.

    1151. jason says:

      Why would we fear such a thing if Trump had a long-standing conservative resume?

      I am glad that he actually governed more or less as a conservative, but that fear in 2016 was very real and with good reason.”

      I have admitted many times I was wrong about Trump.

      While I disagreed with his AFL-CIO failed agenda and his self destructive anti-NATO drivel, in general conservatives have nothing to complain about his presidency, he delivered big time on key issues such as conservative judges, lower taxes, deregulation, energy independence, war on the MSM and wokism, etc. Again, not because those represent his core values, but because it was politically expedient at the time.

      However, wes is correct that he now thinks it is politically expedient to take liberal positions and abandon any pretense of being a conservative.

      That is why the Golden Calf is a much better option for the GOP.

    1152. Phil says:


    1153. DW says:

      Wes, the “Professional Basketball Equity Act” above was a joke. Sorry about that, while you were away, I have been trying in vain to come up with parodies so outrageous that everyone could easily see its fake.

      But with Biden its a very difficult task. Anything I type is believable.

    1154. jason says:

      “Fake but plausible”

    1155. DW says:

      “Bud Light to Buy Back Expired Beer From Wholesalers Amid Dylan Mulvaney Trainwreck”

      Aww, I feel so sorry for them!

    1156. Bitterlaw says:

      RIP, Tina Turner.

    1157. Phil says:

      Saw her in concert around 1995. Terrific talent.

    1158. Wes says:

      Running in a primary one has a right to run in is now election interference, according to Donald Trump:

      This man so wants to be Papa Doc Duvalier.

    1159. Paul says:

      1195: There should be no election because Trump is already the President…… according to delusional poster PresidentPaul!.

    1160. Paul says:

      I plan to groom DW’s grandkids.

    1161. JeffP says:

      Saw Ike & Tina open for the Stones. She was a performer.

      Paul is sick in the head.

    1162. DW says:

      “California to Ban Skittles Due to Chemicals Linked to Health Issues, but Child Sex Changes OK”

      California doesn’t want harmless skittles to damage your kids’ health, but they want evil surgeons to mutilate your kids’ genitals, permanently sterilizing them.

    1163. PresidentPaul! says:

      Nope we’ll have an election but it’s likely deepstate will try to rig it again. DeSantis continues to acknowledge Biden as the rightful president and his opponent, which is a bit disgraceful IMO.


      Former Deputy Nat’l Security Adviser: FBI, CIA & DOJ Will Rig 2024 Election

    1164. Wes says:

      Wow! DeSantis acknowledges the President as the President and plans to run against him if nominated.

      No one has ever done that before!

      If Trump becomes the nominee and runs on a redress of grievances from 2020, then Biden will win in a landslide. Maybe Trump should get over 2020 and look to the future.

    1165. PresidentPaul! says:

      more Balaji:

      “Druckenmiller estimates the true debt, including entitlements, to be $200T.

      If it’s anything close to that, you can’t grow your way out. You could sacrifice 1000 unicorns plus all of tech without making a dent.

      So they won’t pay.
      They’ll print.”

      1201- not cool to ignore the deepstate coup against Trump

    1166. Paul says:

      Trump just needs to convince people that he is still president. But the catch is if he does that, he would disqualify himself for running for a third term.

    1167. PresidentPaul! says:



      Demanted Joe and FBI-CIA coup stole the presidency and Trump is here to rightfully reclaim it.

    1168. PresidentPaul! says:

      Demented Joe that is….

    1169. PresidentPaul! says:

      Trump needs to take deep state to the woodshed

      Complete destruction of the CIA, FBI and NSA and defund the Ukraine money laundering fiasco while he’s at it.

    1170. Paul says:

      1204: Good plan. America loves sore losers.

    1171. Wes says:

      I hate to tell you, Bunu, but Trump lost. His obsession with his loss rather than making a constructive case for his reelection. He’s going to lose badly next precisely because he’s an overtly bitter man fixated on a past defeat.

      He’s trying to be Grover Cleveland, but Cleveland wasn’t fixated on 1888 in 1892. Instead, he focused on the failures of the Harrison Administration and won again by a comfortable margin.

      Trump is too thin skinned to look forward. That’s why he will lose to Biden again.

    1172. PresidentPaul! says:


      GOP lost HUGE in 2000 and 2004 when Bush won. Set the party back a decade.

      and you voted for that.

    1173. PresidentPaul! says:

      McCain and Romney were the biggest losers in the party.

      Two more that YOU voted for when Ron Paul should have been the nominee both times.

      Seems like this is a YOU problem not a Trump problem.

    1174. Wes says:

      Bunu, I didn’t vote for McCain. I’ve made that clear since 2008. As far as Romney, he got a higher percentage of the vote in a loss to an incumbent than Trump got in losing as an incumbent.

      Regarding Ron Paul, he lost three bids for President. That’s as many as McCain, Romney, and Trump lost combined. Clearly no one outside his loud but small coterie of Flavor Aid drinkers thought he was worth voting for.

    1175. Paul says:

      1211: We needed more GOP to stand with Ron Paul against the second Iraq war. One of the biggest mistake we’ve made.

    1176. PresidentPaul! says:

      We’ve never had a president get nuked by the CIA-FBI-NSA and run on a comeback tour.

      Trump was great in the first term.

      I have no no doubt that he will be even better in 2024.

    1177. Wes says:

      I don’t disagree Gulf War II was a huge foreign policy blunder. We should all thank Obama for keeping his campaign promise and ending it. It was a colossal failure prompted by a fool. Of course Ron Paul would never have made it to the White House to end it had Republicans been delusional enough to nominate him.

    1178. Wes says:

      Well, aside from the fact that he won’t win, Bunu. You overlooked that minor detail.

    1179. PresidentPaul! says:

      I do find Vivek interesting at the moment.

      DeSantis is the most uninspiring candidate we have at the moment.

    1180. PresidentPaul! says:

      I think Romney was a serial liar willing to do anything to get to the white house.

      He even had Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter buying it.

    1181. jason says:

      Ron Paul should have been the nominee both times”

      Hard to fathom why the crazy kook who lost 150 primaries and caucuses in a row “should have been the nominee”.

    1182. jason says:

      Trump just needs to convince people that he is still president.”


    1183. jason says:

      Phil says:
      May 24, 2023 at 3:23 pm

      Saw her in concert around 1995. Terrific talent.”

      And great legs.

      I suppose that is talent too.

    1184. jason says:

      All charges dropped against “white supremacist” Sai Varsh-th Kandula, except for depredation of property. I guess they couldn’t sell the MAGA angle, the guy is not even a US citizen.

    1185. jason says:

      Here is a lesson for Neville Moron Allen who thinks the HHR Deepstate is censoring his posts.

      Mine did not go through because Varsh-th has sh-t in the word.

      So sometimes the filter stops a word inside a word.

    1186. Phil says:

      Great legs is right. She was around 50 at the time and had the body of a 30 year old.

    1187. jason says:

      Ron Paul is a terrorist loving flaming anti-semite racist disgusting excuse for a human being. He was never a conservative or a Republican and he was the biggest porker in Congress.

      THAT is why he lost 150 primaries and caucuses in a row, 90% of Republicans think he is a kooky jackass.

    1188. PresidentPaul! says:

      Funny how Hillary destroying 30000 classified emails doesn’t get her home raided.

      But I always assumed she was communicating with Obama (who was spying on Trump etc) so they had to have it Hillary destroy the evidence.

    1189. Bitterlaw says:

      Bad day for the Trump cult. DeSantis is in the race AND Bunu is supporting Trump.

    1190. PresidentPaul! says:

      DeSantis seems like a Biden ally running the kabuki theatre with Joe…. pretending he is a legitimate opponent…all the while the dems can do another rigged election and congratulate Ron for dividing the party after they rug him on election night.

    1191. PresidentPaul! says:

      DeSantis is also no Elon Musk despite doing twitter spaces with him and trying to associate with him.

      Elon is the biggest memelord on the right and perhaps the only one who would even have a chance at defeating Trump in a primary (but DeSantis needs to get him his birth Florida certificate.)

    1192. PresidentPaul! says:

      The Biden troll announces for president

      FAILURE to launch: DeSantis makes fool of himself on twitter

    1193. PresidentPaul! says:

      DeSantis is failing to read the room announcing right after the Durham report comes out documenting the 2020 election coup.

      Sad watching DeSantis destroy his political career when it was burning so bright previously.

      Nunes says Durham report shows ‘total collapse of the justice system’

      ““The Durham report reads like the tombstone for the justice system,” he added. “And it would say something simple, like, ‘Here lies the justice system, the Justice Department, and we knew there was criminality, and we couldn’t do anything about it.’”

      “That’s really what the Durham report says,” Nunes continued. “There’s a lot of great information in there, but nothing has been done.”

    1194. Bitterlaw says:

      Bunu says DeSantis is a Biden troll but then it is sad DeSantis is ruining his political career. If DeSantis is a Biden troll, why is it sad?

      Bunu – Read your posts before you submit them.

    1195. PresidentPaul! says:

      1233- DeSantis has made clear who is siding with: the deepstate-Biden coup.

      When Julius Caeasar famously crossed the Rubicon River he knew that there was no going back and the senate would consider it an act of war.

      “Caesar broke the rule. He marched on Rome. He didn’t care what the Senators thought. The rest is history. Within a generation, there was no republic.”

      Zerohedge: the FBI has crossed the Rubicon

      “The FBI has now taken similar action. It has signaled in the clearest possible manner it does not care what the people or their elected representatives think. It will do what it pleases, and the consequences be damned.

      The recently released Durham report paints a graphic picture of an agency out of control. The FBI did not blunder into an investigation of Donald Trump, his campaign, and his associates. The FBI undertook to deliberately destroy Trump and those around him including General Flynn. The FBI took unto itself the power to decide who could be President.”

    1196. JeffP says:

      So many Trump supporters focus on DeSantis this DeSantis that…playing follow their leader. It’s going to be daily thing with them.

    1197. JeffP says:

      DeSantis event breaks Twitter spaces in the beginning but it’s his fault and the end of his campaign. These people are just as childish as their leader.

    1198. PresidentPaul! says:

      General Flynn needs to be the VP (who the FBI took down illegitimately

      The Biden admin is unbelievably corrupt.

    1199. PresidentPaul! says:


      Comey testified to congress under oath that the Trump campaign was not being wiretapped.

      while WIRETAPPING Trump campaign for the Democrats.

      Then he persecuted and jailed General Flynn for perjury when Comey committed the exact same crime he was attacking Flynn for.

    1200. PresidentPaul! says:

      Trump’s biggest mistake were the ppl he appointed to run these organizations especially Gina Haspel who was well known to have personally destroyed all the CIA torture videos that would have incriminated the CIA and GWB-Cheney against congressional orders and Federal law.

      Trump rewarded her after this making her the leader of the CIA (more lawlessness)

    1201. Paul says:

      Trump/Flynn ticket would win 50 states.

    1202. Bitterlaw says:

      Don’t get in the lifeboat, Bunu.

    1203. Phil says:

      I second that, bitter.

    1204. JeffP says:

      Lisa Boothe just posted this on Twitter and I agree and describes where I am at too…no question.

      Here is where I am right now:

      I like Trump, personally. My biggest worry is that he can’t get everything that needs to get done in four years. He lacks discipline, which makes it more challenging. Trump would start as a lame-duck president, which makes it even harder. Winning in 2028 is much more difficult without an incumbent. He did many good things, but unfortunately, Biden was able to undo much of it.

      I like DeSantis, personally. I’ve gotten to know him and Casey while living in Florida. He is an incredible governor, and I moved here because he kept Florida open. DeSantis would be a very effective president, including enacting long-lasting change. I also believe he would be impactful legislatively because he’s disciplined. I like the fact he has a young family too. Can he get the presidency? I don’t know. That’s up to him, his team, and most importantly, Republican voters.

      At the end of all of this, I will enthusiastically support the Republican nominee. We have too much at stake.

    1205. Greymarch says:

      Winners win. Losers win.

      Trump lost. Trump is a loser. People who support Trump are losers.

      DeSantis is a winner. DeSantis will crush Biden.

      Every time someone posts they support Trump, they are actually telling you “I am a loser.”

      Cant fight the math. Losers lose. Trump is a loser.

    1206. JeffP says:

      Bunu…just because DeSantis lives in Trumps head doesn’t men he has to live in your too.

    1207. PresidentPaul! says:


      His political career is over though.

      He just doesn’t know it yet. He was a good governor while it last but at this point…next man up.

    1208. JeffP says:

      1252 LOLOLOLOL Career over…LOLOLOLOL then why are so damn worried.

    1209. PresidentPaul! says:

      Bc no one is going to support him for governor or any other office at this point.

      Vivek is the #2 candidate in this race not DeSantis
      Vivek Ramaswamy takes on the Corrupt FBI

    1210. PresidentPaul! says:

      Vivek is 100% committed to completely shutting down the FBI.

      He needs to add the CIA and NSA to the list although maybe he has.

    1211. PresidentPaul! says: